Monday, 2019-03-04

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VW_grettings all16:00
VW_let me get things kicked off16:00
apricehello!16:00
josephrsandovalgood morning.16:00
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VW_#startmeeting uc16:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Mar  4 16:00:32 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'uc'16:00
VW_#chair belmoreira spotz josephrsandoval16:00
openstackCurrent chairs: VW_ belmoreira josephrsandoval spotz16:00
VW_#topic roll call16:01
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VW_o/16:01
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VW_#topic Representative on the meta-sig16:02
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VW_did everyone see the email with Melvin and Thierry?16:02
spotzYep16:03
josephrsandovalyes16:03
belmoreirayes16:04
belmoreirayes16:04
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VW_hi studarus!16:04
VW_#chair studarus16:04
openstackCurrent chairs: VW_ belmoreira josephrsandoval spotz studarus16:04
studarusGood morning!16:04
VW_so, one of us should take Melvin's place on working with the TC for SIG oversight16:04
VW_Wanted to bring it up here to find out who all had interest16:05
studaruscan you talk to the duties, skills required, and time commitment?16:06
VW_I don't have all the details.  I think that Melvin met with Thierry periodically16:07
VW_mrhillsman you hanging around by chance?16:08
studarusSounds like a good opportunity to work with the TC16:08
apriceor ttx?16:08
belmoreiraI was checking the links. There is not much information16:08
mrhillsmanyeah, sorry, in a meeting brb16:09
belmoreiramentions only the SIG governance16:09
studarusI don't imagine that there are too many disagreements that reach this level and need to be resolved?16:09
VW_no, I don't believe so16:10
jamesmcarthurThe MetaSig is basically a kind of safety valve in case there are some major disagreement. studarus is right - i don't think they've had to use it thus far.16:10
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studaruswhat was the bit about there also being a standing member?16:12
jamesmcarthurIt consists of one TC Member and one UC Member16:12
jamesmcarthurTypically, the chair of both.16:12
VW_which I am fine to do16:13
VW_I just didn't want to assume there wasn't passion for it on someone else's part16:13
studarusI'd like to nominate VM_16:14
studarusI'd like to nominate VW_16:14
VW_I don't know if we need a vote on it, but can.  Anyone else have a strong opinion?16:15
spotzAs far as I know there haven't been any issues to require any effort16:16
VW_Ok - well in the sake of moving on, I'll tell Thierry to put me in there. we can always change it later.  Cool?16:19
apricecool16:19
apricethanks VW_!16:20
studarusexcellent16:20
mrhillsmanok, i'm around16:20
VW_hey mrhillsman - we were just confirming the time commitment and such for the meta-sig16:20
mrhillsmanoh yeah it is not much16:21
VW_did we do a formal vote before you represented us mrhillsman?16:22
mrhillsmanwe did not16:23
mrhillsmansince myself and thierry were driving it16:23
VW_ok - cool.  Just wanted to make sure we were being consistent16:23
VW_I think we have run this topic to ground - yes?16:23
apricenext topic!16:24
VW_#topic Formalizing the Abassador role16:26
*** openstack changes topic to "Formalizing the Abassador role (Meeting topic: uc)"16:26
VW_studarus: you had some thoughts around this?16:26
studarusYes!16:27
jamesmcarthurashfergs can answer your queries16:27
studarusI'm hoping we can shift the program a little to get Ambassadors that are more proactive in helping all the user groups.16:27
ashfergsI support that!16:28
studarusRather that taking user/meetup group leaders and making them ambassadors, instead find speakers/writers, make them ambassadors, and get them out to the user groups16:28
studarusThe goal is to find contributors that are happy to present _outside_ of the summits.16:29
apricei agree, however i feel like that's just one of the goals16:29
apricewhereas having a local perspective is also a goal of the ambassadors16:29
jamesmcarthurWe also have the speakers bureau to help peopel find speakers local to their user group.16:30
apricei also really support shifting the program a bit because i do think that increased involvement would be really welcome16:30
ashfergswhich is updated with zip codes now!16:30
studaruswe can promote from the speaker bureau into the ambassador role as they step up and give local community talks16:31
ashfergssounds like this might be a good opportunity and time to start with defining the ambassador role16:32
josephrsandovalits almost like a meta-ambassador16:32
belmoreirahow about blogs, articles... ?16:32
studarusany type of community outreach - so definitely blogs and articles16:33
jamesmcarthurdo you mean as part of their responsibility belmoreira?16:33
apricehere is a starting point in defining the role16:34
aprice#link https://groups.openstack.org/ambassador-program16:34
belmoreiranot what I meant. There are people that are very active promoting OpenStack not by speaking, but for example writing about it16:35
studaruson the application, we ask for a history of presenting at local groups, blogging, promoting as a core-dev, articles...16:35
belmoreiraI see those as ambassadors16:35
apricebelmoreia: yeah, we actually try to get those folks as contributors to superuser.openstack.org16:35
apricewould love to use that as a way for an ambassador to contribute because travel budgets arent always easy to come by16:36
apricei think that there has to be a virtual way to engage in the community as an ambassador16:36
studarusI also think we need a way to timeout ambassadors - people change roles and don't always let us know...16:37
belmoreiradocker as this program of docker Captains: https://www.docker.com/community/captains16:37
belmoreirawhere they recognise people that shares their knowledge about the project16:37
VW_so, is the first step to get a couple of us together with ashfergs to write up a draft of how things should look?16:37
spotzYeah the Docker captins program I've heard good things about it16:38
apricestudarus: i think that's a good point, but i think that as we define the role of ambassador, the UC could engage more and have better relationships with them so we can avoid those role changes.16:38
studarushaving the UC review and sign off on applications would make sense16:39
aprice+116:39
ashfergsVW_ +116:39
ashfergsYes, I think that makes sense too16:39
studarusI'd be happy to put together that draft16:39
VW_anyone else want to work with them on a draft - spotz, josephrsandoval, belmoreira?16:40
josephrsandovali'm available to help review and provide feedback16:41
belmoreiraI think there are already a lot of people involved for the first draft. When we have something then we should review/iterate here16:42
spotzI can help out16:42
VW_cool - thanks ashfergs, studarus and spotz16:44
VW_I'm assuming you all may want 2 or 3 weeks before we touch base on it again?16:44
studarussure16:45
VW_Ok - I'll but an item on the agenda for the 18th16:45
ashfergsmaybe we should aim for under 2 weeks, because unfortunately the server the hosts the groups.o portal is outdated16:46
ashfergsso we're currently coming up with a plan to notify groups that they'll need to move over to meetup16:46
ashfergsfigure it's the best time to go ahead and do it so our time doesn't spend time updating something we're trying to move away from anyway16:47
VW_sounds fair16:47
VW_I'll add it to the next two meeting and we can touch base on progress next Monday. If you all have a new draft before then, we can provide feedback on Monday?16:48
studarusk16:48
ashfergsthe 3rd week of april is the deadline, so aprice and I are working on comms to the user groups this week. would love for it to involve the ambassadors more, but time just doesn't allow for it.16:49
ashfergssounds good VW16:49
VW_cool16:49
VW_#action ashfergs studarus spotz work on draft of updates to Ambassador program16:50
VW_#topic Forum needs in Denver16:50
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studarusperhaps a lunch rather than the breakfast that was done in previous years?16:52
VW_yes - that might be good16:52
VW_but I also wanted to make sure we had a rough list of space we might need while jamesmcarthur is around16:53
VW_I'm also happy to submit requests through the process16:53
VW_I think the breakfast/lunch is a good idea16:53
spotzIt would need to be sponsored there’s no lunch on Denver16:53
VW_ah - good point16:54
apriceis this just around meeting the UC?16:54
apricecould it be something where yall are around during the Marketplace Mixer on Monday evening and folks can come meet you in a certain area?16:54
studarusI'd like to use it as a chance to meet with user group leaders and get their thoughts16:55
apriceah ok - so a Forum session like we did in Berlin?16:56
studarusthat was the most rewarding portion of the breakfast last year16:56
VW_yeah16:56
apricestudarus: the breakfast in Vancouver?16:56
apricei didnt think we did one in Berlin but can't remember16:56
jamesmcarthurVancouver was the only time we've done a breakfast.16:56
jamesmcarthurI believe.16:56
spotzWe didn’t16:56
studarusmust have been Vancouver16:56
spotzOr Sydney?16:57
VW_so, time check - we have less than 3 minutes16:57
VW_do we have time to move this to next week to revisit?16:57
VW_I also want to make sure we secure a spot in the forum for discussion around one topic coming out of the Ops mid-cycle16:57
apriceVW_ jamesmcarthur is holding a few spots for the ops midcycle16:58
VW_awesome16:58
VW_in taht case - let's bump this conversation to next week16:58
VW_#topic Other Business16:58
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studarusI gotta run to my 9am...  :(16:59
VW_I have one small housekeeping item16:59
VW_let's be sure not to +1 workflow on changes until at least 2 have reviewed and voted, etc16:59
VW_I get that wrong sometimes too16:59
studarusgotcha16:59
VW_and with a new mix of folks, it's worth reminding16:59
belmoreirathanks16:59
VW_Thanks everyone for coming!17:00
ashfergsthanks!17:00
josephrsandovalthanks all! have a great Monday!17:00
VW_I'll get the IRC banner updated too17:00
spotzThanks17:00
VW_#endmeeting17:00
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mrhillsmanVW_ i did not see conversation regarding irc banner (topic?) but i believe that has to be done through the infra team so while you are can you have them remove me from opp as well17:01
mrhillsmans/opp/op17:01
VW_will do mrhillsman17:01
mrhillsmanchannel op that is17:01
mrhillsmanty sir17:01
VW_if you have an old email where you set it up, will you forward me a copy17:01
mrhillsmansure, will look and email you17:02
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