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| VW_ | #startmeeting uc | 15:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 15 15:00:28 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is VW_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: uc)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'uc' | 15:00 |
| VW_ | #chair studarus spotz belmoreira | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW_ belmoreira spotz studarus | 15:00 |
| VW_ | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
| spotz | o/ | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: uc)" | 15:00 | |
| belmoreira | o/ | 15:00 |
| VW_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| studarus | o/ | 15:01 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| spotz | o/ | 15:02 |
| aprice | o/ | 15:02 |
| VW_ | Hope everyone is well | 15:02 |
| VW_ | #topic Joint Session | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Joint Session (Meeting topic: uc)" | 15:02 | |
| VW_ | So, I have one update on the Sunday meeting at the summit. It looks like I may have some family commitments that won't get me to Denver till Monday morning | 15:03 |
| VW_ | spotz, studarus (and hopefully Joseph), can you manage the presentation? | 15:04 |
| spotz | VW_: Yeah I'll be there | 15:05 |
| studarus | I'll be there and happy to help present | 15:05 |
| VW_ | Sorry about the last minute change | 15:05 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | Is there an etherpad with content WIP? | 15:06 |
| VW_ | we copied over the last set of slides jamesmcarthur_ | 15:06 |
| VW_ | https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1dE6_TWR24lwtWYXckF78M0tT4DF66NFUJmVecX2Fa2s/edit#slide=id.g45dfc68d1f_0_287 | 15:06 |
| VW_ | we have not gotten to do much work on them | 15:06 |
| VW_ | I'd like to nail down the list of topics today in the meeting if we can | 15:07 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | roger that | 15:07 |
| VW_ | I think a Committe Goals update makes sense - we'll keep that and update the data from last time | 15:07 |
| VW_ | Are there any updates at this time for the user survey? | 15:08 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | We can put in a slide about our move to meetup pro | 15:08 |
| aprice | VW_ no user survey updates per se, but it will be open so we will want to encourage submissions | 15:08 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | Re: User Survey - I have an email in review to send out to the community. There are very few updates. | 15:09 |
| VW_ | yeah - I figured. More of a topic for the fall summit now that they are annual | 15:09 |
| spotz | vw_ I was thinking maybe do replace the Nordic report with UK? | 15:09 |
| belmoreira | spotz +1 | 15:09 |
| aprice | we should add something about the berlin ops meetup and which topics they brought back to be discussed at the forum | 15:10 |
| VW_ | we can put in a Public Service Announcement Slide - "Don't forget to take the survey" | 15:10 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | Can someone give mine and aprice's account access to the doc? | 15:10 |
| VW_ | agreed spotz | 15:10 |
| VW_ | and aprice | 15:10 |
| spotz | hang on jamesmcarthur_ | 15:11 |
| VW_ | and maybe decide if we want to try and extract anything from the OpenStack Days at CERN to further drive the Ops meetup and feedback process | 15:11 |
| VW_ | studarus: you went to the UK meetup, right | 15:11 |
| spotz | invites sent | 15:11 |
| VW_ | you could help summarize that bit? | 15:11 |
| studarus | yes! I was at the UK event | 15:11 |
| VW_ | cool | 15:11 |
| studarus | I can add some slides | 15:11 |
| VW_ | awesome | 15:12 |
| VW_ | the biggest thing is any key takeaways/themes from the attendees that we can start funneling in to the feedback process | 15:12 |
| aprice | how long is the UC update? | 15:12 |
| spotz | Usually 5-10? | 15:13 |
| belmoreira | VW_: OpenStack Days at CERN will be only at end of May | 15:13 |
| spotz | So we can say it's upcoming:) | 15:13 |
| VW_ | right - but we as a UC can set some goals of how we might use that event to help drive change. Maybe there is a session or something where the feedback can be used to set up a follow up conversation at the next OPs meetup | 15:14 |
| VW_ | or make a good topic for a forum session | 15:14 |
| VW_ | we need to decide as a group, but my point was we could discuss it as a forward looking thing | 15:14 |
| VW_ | tied to our overall goal of linking more of these events together in the feedbac/change loop | 15:15 |
| VW_ | did I get that right, spotz? ^ | 15:15 |
| spotz | VW_: we can but I think belmoreira will be the only one there:( | 15:17 |
| belmoreira | you are all invited :) | 15:18 |
| VW_ | that is true, but that's OK. I'm less worried about who is there and more interested in what we can extract from the conversations, sessions, etc | 15:18 |
| spotz | belmoreira: I need a plane ticket!:) | 15:19 |
| belmoreira | VW_: true, however this event will be a little bit particular because it will be a single track and we don't have discussions planed | 15:20 |
| belmoreira | for sure I will report to you how it went | 15:20 |
| VW_ | awesome | 15:20 |
| spotz | belmoreira: Maybe just gather what people are most interested in? | 15:20 |
| VW_ | yeah - exactly | 15:21 |
| belmoreira | yes | 15:21 |
| VW_ | the UC has "boots on the ground" at this one. "If we see a lot of interested in area X,Y or Z, we'll work with the Ops meetup team to include it in the next event. Or, we'll set up a forum session in China.." | 15:21 |
| VW_ | something like that | 15:21 |
| VW_ | The main thing is to keep stressing how we are trying to A. link these various events and the conversations going on and B. trying to spread out the UC across more of them | 15:22 |
| VW_ | which is why it's so awesome that studarus made the UK one | 15:22 |
| VW_ | Do we need any specific working group updates? | 15:22 |
| VW_ | I'm thinking not, but wasn't sure | 15:23 |
| spotz | Which reminds me, informal OPS outing after the mixer | 15:23 |
| spotz | Might be nice for UC to attend | 15:23 |
| VW_ | ++ | 15:23 |
| aprice | there is also a user community leadership session Tuesday afternoon for user group leaders and ambassadors to join as well. we just got it added to the schedule, but i think that this could be a good place to share this presentation yall are giving the board and get feedback from the community | 15:26 |
| aprice | #link: https://www.openstack.org/summit/denver-2019/summit-schedule/events/23783/community-leadership-session | 15:26 |
| VW_ | Good call aprice - we'll put that on the agenda | 15:26 |
| aprice | VW_ thanks! | 15:27 |
| VW_ | re: adjacent communities - I don't know if there are many updates. We should highlight studarus getting cell tower access for one of them | 15:28 |
| VW_ | was it starlingx or airship? | 15:28 |
| studarus | StarlingX | 15:28 |
| spotz | aprice: Bah it's the same time as the new contributers one | 15:28 |
| VW_ | cool - yeah - that can go in the adjacent community update | 15:28 |
| VW_ | kata is a full blown project now - do we know if/how that will impact the role of the UC? | 15:29 |
| aprice | spotz: jimmy is checking to see what the other times that are available so we can avoid that overlap | 15:29 |
| spotz | thanks | 15:30 |
| studarus | at the UK conference, I was able to build a lab so anyone can now startup Kata and play with it. We used that for the Kata workshop at the UK event | 15:30 |
| VW_ | that's awesome! | 15:31 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | I can move the Community Leadership Session to Wednesday afternoon | 15:31 |
| spotz | aprice: If we don't have survey results back from CHAOSS I can give back that time slot | 15:32 |
| VW_ | There still seems to be a lot of uncertainty on how the user communities of these other projects might get cared for | 15:32 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | 2:30-3:10? | 15:32 |
| spotz | VW_: As of yet I don't think many have users from our last conversations and those that did most were contributors | 15:32 |
| VW_ | Right, but does the baord/foundation have a different view for Kata since it's now official? | 15:33 |
| VW_ | or, is User "governance" (still don't like that term) a gap that still needs to be solved | 15:33 |
| VW_ | should we be helping solve it? | 15:33 |
| aprice | VW_ i think it's going to come down to the communities to solve as they get there | 15:33 |
| VW_ | etc | 15:33 |
| spotz | jamesmcarthur_: That would work there is a user feedback session then but it's just for Cinder | 15:33 |
| aprice | for Kata, they have several users in the POC stage but not yet ready for user governance per se | 15:34 |
| aprice | i think that each project is doing governance slightly differently, and there's not necessarily a template for how the foundation / board expect that to be done. | 15:35 |
| VW_ | right - just thinking through what/if/how we might talk about adjacent communities this go round | 15:35 |
| VW_ | sounds like a good "we are here to help" reminder would be good | 15:35 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | Generally, it's up to the individual project how they set up their governance. The OpenStack TC doesn't govern the pilot projects. | 15:35 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | So I'd imagine this would extend ot the UC as well | 15:35 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | VW_ yeah, I think that's the best path forward | 15:35 |
| VW_ | does that include future potential spin offs? | 15:35 |
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| VW_ | ie projects in OpenStack today that might become their own | 15:36 |
| VW_ | hey josephrsandoval | 15:36 |
| VW_ | #chair josephrsandoval | 15:36 |
| josephrsandoval | hey sorry i was late | 15:36 |
| openstack | Current chairs: VW_ belmoreira josephrsandoval spotz studarus | 15:36 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | VW_ I'm not sure if that's been laid out specifically | 15:36 |
| josephrsandoval | still in India | 15:36 |
| josephrsandoval | heading home today | 15:36 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | would be a good question for Thierry or JB | 15:36 |
| spotz | VW_: We punted the issue at the Denver PTG.... | 15:37 |
| VW_ | yeah - I know - just trying to keep us thinking about the other projects | 15:40 |
| VW_ | josephrsandoval: will you be there on Sunday for the joint meeting? | 15:40 |
| josephrsandoval | yes. i rebooked my trip for a Saturday arrival | 15:41 |
| VW_ | awesome - I was telling them earlier, that I have a family thing that Sunday now, and won't make it in till Monday morning. So, you, spotz and studarus will do the talking at the meeting | 15:42 |
| VW_ | I'll help get the slides worked out | 15:42 |
| VW_ | I think we have a reasonable set of topics for the meeting, all - aggreed? | 15:42 |
| VW_ | if so, I'll commit to getting the rough outline done by the end of the day tomorrow | 15:42 |
| studarus | yes | 15:42 |
| spotz | yep | 15:42 |
| VW_ | aprice, jamesmcarthur_ - might ping you two for some stats on things like number of survey submissions, etc | 15:43 |
| VW_ | Let's target getting it 80% done by next week and we can divide things up between the presenters then | 15:44 |
| VW_ | anything else related to the joint session? | 15:45 |
| VW_ | we only have 15 minutes left | 15:45 |
| belmoreira | do we present the community activity around the summits? number of talks summited, acceptance rate, ... this could be interesting and is a way to evaluate the UC state | 15:46 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | VW_ we haven't been promoting the survey yet, so the submissions are extremely low | 15:47 |
| VW_ | fair enough josephrsandoval | 15:48 |
| VW_ | interesting belmoreira - say more? | 15:48 |
| spotz | belmoreira: We haven't in the past, I think the majority of the talks are dev related though and with the move to OpenInfra that means less OpenStack(and pilot project_ slots available I imagine | 15:48 |
| belmoreira | I was thinking about all the summit submissions statistics and see were are the hot spots over time | 15:49 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | belmoreira: those details are not necessarily something we make public | 15:49 |
| jamesmcarthur_ | I'd have to check and see what we provide | 15:49 |
| belmoreira | I could be a set of interesting metrics | 15:49 |
| belmoreira | s/I/it/ | 15:50 |
| belmoreira | It could help to understand the trends and how the community is moving over time | 15:51 |
| VW_ | alright - almost out of time. We sort of covered the next item - the forum session - a bit already | 15:55 |
| VW_ | so | 15:55 |
| VW_ | #topic any other business | 15:55 |
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| spotz | Not I | 15:55 |
| VW_ | we all have some homework to do. In the short term, I'll stub out the slides and update you all. Then we can fill in content and review next Monday | 15:56 |
| VW_ | we'll also finalize the agenda for the forum session and fill out the etherpad | 15:56 |
| spotz | Sounds good, thanks VW_ | 15:56 |
| VW_ | sound good? | 15:56 |
| belmoreira | great | 15:56 |
| VW_ | awesome - great meeting today folks. Looking forward to seeing some of you in a couple of weeks. Sorry I'll be late to the party | 15:57 |
| VW_ | josephrsandoval safe travels home sir | 15:57 |
| spotz | VW_: No worries have fun! | 15:58 |
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| VW_ | alright - see you all here next week | 15:58 |
| VW_ | #endmeeting | 15:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 15 15:58:49 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:58 |
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| jamesmcarthur_ | bye everyone! | 16:00 |
| spotz | laters and thanks | 16:03 |
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