Monday, 2019-09-16

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studarusHello!15:01
jayahno/15:01
belmoreirahello15:01
melsakhawyHello Hello15:01
studarusand spotz is here too15:01
spotzo/15:01
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studarus#startmeeting15:02
openstackstudarus: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee'15:02
studarus#startmeeting uc15:03
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 16 15:03:11 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is studarus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'uc'15:03
spotzThere yoou go15:03
studarus#chair15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: studarus15:03
studarus#chair spotz15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: spotz studarus15:03
spotzPut everyone in one command15:03
studarus#chair belmoreira jayahn melsakhawy15:03
openstackCurrent chairs: belmoreira jayahn melsakhawy spotz studarus15:03
studarus#topic Chair and Vice Chair Selection15:04
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studaruslast week we had nominations of spotz (Chair) and melsakhawy (Vice Chair). Are there any other self-nominations or discussion before a vote?15:05
jayahnnope.15:05
belmoreiranot from me15:07
studaruslast chance for self-nominations or discussions before a vote!15:07
studarusthis would be for the current six month term15:07
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spotzOr slightly shorter, next election is February15:08
studarusVoting! All in favor for spotz (Chair) and melsakhawy (Vice Chair) for the current term until Feb?15:09
studaruso/15:09
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spotz#poll Voting! All in favor for spotz (Chair) and melsakhawy (Vice Chair) for the current term until Feb?15:09
belmoreira+115:09
jayahno/15:09
studarus+115:10
jayahn+1 or o/ (same thing, right?)15:10
spotzshoulda worked15:10
spotz#vote Voting! All in favor for spotz (Chair) and melsakhawy (Vice Chair) for the current term until Feb?15:10
spotzbot might be broke:(15:10
spotzabstain15:11
melsakhawyabstain15:11
studarus#startvote Voting! All in favor for spotz (Chair) and melsakhawy (Vice Chair) for the current term until Feb?15:11
openstackBegin voting on: Voting! All in favor for spotz (Chair) and melsakhawy (Vice Chair) for the current term until Feb? Valid vote options are Yes, No.15:11
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.15:11
studarus#vote yes15:12
jayahn#vote yes15:12
studarusbelmoreira - can you revote quick for the record?15:12
belmoreira#vote yes15:13
studarus#endvote15:13
openstackVoted on "Voting! All in favor for spotz (Chair) and melsakhawy (Vice Chair) for the current term until Feb?" Results are15:13
studarusI wonder if capitalization counts?  :)15:13
studarus#agreed spotz (Chair) and melsakhawy (Vice Chair) for the current term until Feb15:13
jayahnmight be15:14
studarusspotz - would you like to take over with the next topic, meeting times?15:14
spotzSure15:14
spotz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/uc15:15
spotzIn case anyone doesn't have it15:15
spotzjayahn is on South Korean time, belmoreira is on Central Europe, melsakhawy you're EST?, studarus is PST and I'm CST so we're all over the place:)15:16
spotz#topic New meeting time15:16
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studarushttps://doodle.com/poll/zr2fbi57cm59ni5k15:16
melsakhawyyeap , EST15:16
studaruslooks like alternating 1500z and 1200z Monday would work for people (columns 1 & 2)15:17
studarusmelsakhawy beloreira you didn't select that option but you did select that 1500z and 1200z Mondays would work15:17
spotzWell Mondays at least for now I can't make the earlier time, if melsakhawy can that would work.15:18
spotzLet me check some old times15:18
spotzLet me convert to UTC but last time we did split meetings it was 9am and 1pm. I'm not sure those are better for us though15:19
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spotzYeah I don't think 18:00 UTC works for Asia or Europe any better?15:21
jayahn1PM CST is 3AM here.15:21
spotzyesh definitely worse15:21
studarus1300z?15:21
spotzI think the idea was folks could attend every other meeting so for instance you and Bel rotating but it would be nice to find something for everyone15:22
jayahnI am good with 1300z15:22
jayahn1300, 1400z is usually good for me (since it will be 10pm, 11pm)15:22
spotzjayahn: what time s it there now?15:23
jayahn12:23am15:23
melsakhawy1300z monday good for me as well15:23
studarus12:23am Korea15:23
studarus12:23am Korea right now15:23
belmoreira1300z monday is OK for me15:24
studarusI'm fine with 1300z Monday - that's 6a PDT, 8am CDT, 9am EDT15:24
spotzI have a meeting 7-9 on MWF, which is why we had Tuesday on the vote. If that's the only meeting time for everyone else melsakhawy can lead but doesn't seem right for me to chair15:24
studarusso 1300z Tuesday?15:25
melsakhawy1230z if that works for everyone Tuesday ?15:25
spotzI can change things around and do Tuesday or Thursday15:25
melsakhawyi have another meeting at 1330z15:26
spotzThat can work melsakhawy15:26
studarus1230z Tuesday might just work!15:26
jayahn1300z Tuesday is good. I do have another irc meetings on 1400z, and 1500z on Tuesday. (tuesday is irc meeting day for me then)15:26
jayahn1230z is also good.15:27
spotzbelmoreira: that work for you?15:27
belmoreira1300z Tuesday is OK for me15:27
spotzand 1230z?:)15:27
belmoreiraIt's fine as well15:27
melsakhawyguess we have our meeting time!15:28
spotzYep:)15:28
jayahngreat, usually it is mission impossible to find meeting time among three continent ;)15:28
spotzI've got to do another PR on that repo so I'll change this one too15:28
spotz#action spotz update meeting repo for new time15:29
spotz#topic OPS meetup15:29
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spotzI was hoping we'd have a meeting last week but we didn't. So just quickly it looks like the meeting at Bloomberg in NYC was well attended and had some good conversations. If I learn more tomorrow I'll update next week15:30
spotzmihalis68_ did email folks last week to see who was still interested on being on the meetup teamm. I think the only one I didn't see respond was mrhillman15:31
spotzAny questions on ops meetup before we move on?15:32
spotz#topic Summit15:33
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spotzIs anyone from the UC planning on going to Shanghai?15:33
jayahnhere with 90% possibility15:34
studarusI have a China visa! 50/50 for me right now15:34
belmoreiraI'm going15:34
melsakhawyI am not going15:34
spotzNice, do we want to submit any forum sessions? With all the election issues we didn't even discuss this. I know space is tight but it's usually nice to have at least 1 touch point to meet the UC15:36
* spotz is not going unless something massive changed things15:36
studarusdefinitely there should be a session - it's one of the few chances to talk to user groups15:37
melsakhawyI think it's a good idea, especially to increase awareness on AUC  and UC in general15:37
studarusdo we need to apply through the Forum CFP or can we shortcut the process?15:37
spotzstudarus: The ambassadors session is usually done by Ashlee. There used to be a spreadsheet for forum/BoF sessions from the WGs but I haven't seen that. aprice do you know how we can get a time slot?15:38
apriceI can work with ashfergs and jamesmcarthur on that15:39
apriceideally, it would all go through the Forum process though15:39
spotzThanks, I know it's not closed yet so we can still goo that route15:39
apriceyeah - but it does close this week, so hurry :)15:40
studarusI'll put one in for the user groups15:40
spotzaprice: Do you know about a joint leadership meeting?15:40
apriceyes, that will be happening on Sunday, November 315:40
spotzstudarus: Thanks I was going to ask for a volunteer as whoever submits will be the initial speaker at least. We can always get that changed if needed15:41
apriceAlan Clark should be reaching out with the agenda soon, but it may be good for you to reach out to him spotz and let him know that you are the chair15:41
apriceso he doesnt reach out to VW_15:41
spotzaprice: Will do15:41
studarus#agreed studarus to submit Forum CFPs for user group forum15:41
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spotzbelmoreira jayahn studarus - If you don't have arrangements and can get there for Sunday that'd be great. Then if the agenda has a slot for reports you'd be there already15:42
jayahnI will definitely try15:43
belmoreiraI can't confirm yet15:43
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spotzOk and I'm dropping Alan a note so if we are on the agenda we'll get a heads up15:45
spotzOnce we know that we'll know if we need to put something toogether15:46
spotz#action studarus to submit Forum CFPs for user group forum15:46
spotz#topic Other Business15:46
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spotzWe have 14 minutes if anyone has anything to bring up15:46
melsakhawyone thing I wanted to discuss is difficulty of finding candidates to the UC elections15:48
apricenext week i should have more info about the user survey15:48
studaruswe need to update the UC web page...  https://www.openstack.org/foundation/user-committee/15:48
melsakhawydo we want to reconsider the AUC status as a requirement ?15:48
spotzThere has too be some requirement and we've actually made it easier to become an AUC15:49
spotzWith the TC downsizing it makes you wonder if we should as well15:49
melsakhawygood point15:50
spotzjamesmcarthur: is the website in a repo or something you need to do?15:50
jamesmcarthurAh, I can take care of that. It's in our CMS15:51
spotzmelsakhawy: Definitely something we should start discussing. With a smaller number to start with we would either drop 2 slots from Feb or 1 from each election. If we did 1 from each we'd be one release with an even number though:(15:51
spotzthanks jamesmcarthur15:51
spotzSo deinfitely something we can start discussing next week and see where people stand on it15:52
melsakhawyyeah I only wanted to bring it up to get us thinking , we'r still 5 months away from the upcoming elections so we may by then reach a concensus15:52
spotzNo definitely something to start talking about now vs later15:53
melsakhawyyap15:53
spotzOk I've added it on as UC size/election so we can discuss it multiple ways15:54
spotzaprice: I'll add you after roll call to make sure we get to the survey15:54
apriceok thanks spotz15:55
jayahni am just wondering.. does UC cover airship, kata, zuul, starlingx as well? i guess not.15:55
spotzjayahn: We offered early on to assist/mentor them but at the time they all felt they were good as had noo or few users. So they've done things themselves since15:56
jayahnokay, got it. cause I proposed to airship tc that they might need something to represent users. then, it make me wonder relationship with the current uc.15:57
jayahnanyway.. thanks for letting me know15:58
spotzjayahn: We would definitely be open to helping them in anyway we can15:58
jayahnI will sort out my thought. :)15:58
spotzAnyone else have anything for the last minute?15:59
melsakhawyI'm good , have a good week everyone !16:00
spotzI've added Laisons before elections for next week as well:) And that's out time. Thanks everyone16:00
spotz#endmeeting16:00
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belmoreirahave a great week!16:00
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spotzyou too belmoreira16:07
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