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| ntpttr__ | hello everyone o/ | 15:01 |
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| lin_yang | hello | 15:01 |
| HuBian_ | hello | 15:01 |
| ntpttr_laptop | are there any topics for today? | 15:02 |
| ntpttr_laptop | anything folks would like reviewed? | 15:02 |
| Raghav | hello | 15:03 |
| Raghav | regarding BP valence-openstack-flavor | 15:03 |
| ntpttr_laptop | hi Raghav, sure | 15:03 |
| Raghav | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454042/6 | 15:04 |
| Raghav | i got review comments from Stephen Finucane | 15:04 |
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| ananth_n | Hi all | 15:05 |
| ntpttr_laptop | Raghav: yes, I think he gave some good comments with regard to resource providers and what's going on in nova | 15:05 |
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| Raghav | yes | 15:06 |
| Raghav | want to know how shall we proceed with BP | 15:06 |
| ananth_n | I | 15:07 |
| ananth_n | Oops | 15:07 |
| Raghav | os-traits project work is in progress | 15:07 |
| ananth_n | I was wondering if we should go ahead and hve something at least | 15:07 |
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| ntpttr__ | the things that stephen mentions in his paragraph on things nova won't be able to do for you on pods and racks and such, since nov works at a host level | 15:08 |
| ananth_n | Till traits becomes fully functional | 15:08 |
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| ntpttr__ | ananth_n: what was the first thing you said there? I disconnected for a moment | 15:08 |
| ananth_n | I was saying that we probably should have the flavor part implemented | 15:09 |
| ananth_n | Till traits becomes mainstream | 15:09 |
| ntpttr__ | Personally I don't know if adding things like exporting flavors that cover things like cpu architecture is worth it | 15:09 |
| ntpttr__ | if we have RSD specific traits that nova won't cover, then that's great | 15:10 |
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| ntpttr__ | but for host-level things that nova will already be monitoring I'm not sure why it would be helpful | 15:11 |
| Raghav | RSD features like processor speed | 15:11 |
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| ntpttr__ | Raghav: but that's not really an RSD feature, that's just host-level metadata | 15:12 |
| Raghav | that nova currently doesn't track | 15:12 |
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| ntpttr__ | and adding that to a flavor feels hacky when nova is working on a way to natively implement it | 15:12 |
| ntpttr__ | I won't stop it from being implemented if everyone disagrees with me, I just want to get my opinion out there | 15:12 |
| ananth_n | I can see how traits & enhanced platform awareness help with scheduling | 15:14 |
| ntpttr__ | I agree with Stephen that if we want to get this sort of thing into OpenStack we'd be better off working with the nova team to get resource providers up and running | 15:14 |
| ntpttr__ | idk how many people would actually use this valence workaround | 15:15 |
| lin_yang | Podm 2.1 will add RSD specific hardware support, right? | 15:15 |
| ntpttr__ | ananth_n: I agree | 15:15 |
| ntpttr__ | lin_yang: what do you mean by that? | 15:16 |
| ntpttr__ | what kind of RSD specific hardware | 15:16 |
| lin_yang | like attach nvme storage and fpga via PCIE connection to composed node | 15:17 |
| ananth_n | Nate, do traits get exposed as flavors to the end user? Do you know? | 15:18 |
| ntpttr__ | ananth_n: no, I think they're exposed through resource providers | 15:19 |
| ntpttr__ | and will have their own API | 15:19 |
| ntpttr__ | here's some more info about them https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/pike/approved/resource-provider-traits.html | 15:19 |
| lin_yang | from my current understanding, resource provider cannot expose this kinds of resource after attach them to node | 15:19 |
| ananth_n | Thanks. | 15:20 |
| ntpttr__ | lin_yang: I believe that's where custom traits will come in | 15:20 |
| ntpttr__ | a user can define custom traits to be whatever they want if I recall right | 15:21 |
| lin_yang | thanks for clarification, will figure out more on traits | 15:22 |
| ananth_n | It seems traits will eventually help. I am wondering if we should have something in the interim | 15:23 |
| ntpttr__ | ananth_n: we can add something if everyone thinks it's a good idea, but do we know who will use it? | 15:24 |
| ntpttr__ | do we have anyone at the moment actively wanting to use the flavor export feature that wouldn't want to wait to do it the openstack way? | 15:24 |
| ntpttr__ | it feels like a duplication of effort, which is sort of a frowned upon thing in openstack, like if we want this feature in, why not help nova if we can to test or complete it? | 15:25 |
| ananth_n | ntpttr_ the main reason was the showing something to REDHAT. And I agree that there is potential wasted effort | 15:26 |
| ntpttr__ | sorry to play devil's advocate on this feature, I just want to make sure we've thought about all the options before going ahead | 15:26 |
| ntpttr__ | ah okay fair enough | 15:27 |
| ntpttr__ | at the same time though, if you're talking to folks in redhat who have any kind of openstack experience, I imagine they'll have the same questions | 15:27 |
| ntpttr__ | for instance, stephen who left the review on the spec is from redhat | 15:27 |
| ananth_n | :-) | 15:28 |
| ntpttr__ | sorry I really feel like a nay-sayer here | 15:28 |
| ananth_n | Ok, let's go back to the other RH folks. And based on the | 15:30 |
| ananth_n | Input they give, take it forward | 15:30 |
| ntpttr__ | that sounds good | 15:30 |
| ntpttr__ | we can mention this dialogue we've been having, using nova traits/resource providers long term vs. exporting flavors now | 15:31 |
| lin_yang | sounds good | 15:31 |
| ananth_n | Yup | 15:31 |
| ananth_n | Any other topics? | 15:31 |
| ananth_n | All Boston attendees have booked their travel? | 15:32 |
| ntpttr__ | is anyone here going to boston? | 15:32 |
| ntpttr__ | ananth_n: are you going? | 15:32 |
| lin_yang | my request is declined | 15:32 |
| ananth_n | Nope, no funding. If my talk gets a slot, Madhuri will cover | 15:33 |
| lin_yang | I think 99cloud and Lenovo folks will go to boston | 15:33 |
| HuBian_ | yeah ~ i'll be there | 15:33 |
| ananth_n | She got travel funding from Openstack | 15:33 |
| ntpttr__ | lin_yang: cool, the other folks on your talk will go? | 15:33 |
| ntpttr__ | ananth_n: nice! | 15:33 |
| HuBian_ | And i've booked hotel and air tickets ~ | 15:34 |
| ananth_n | HuBian cool! | 15:34 |
| HuBian_ | :) | 15:34 |
| lin_yang | ntpttr: Shuquan from 99cloud will go to boston and cover the talk | 15:35 |
| ntpttr__ | sounds like we will have some coverage :) | 15:35 |
| ntpttr__ | anything else for today guys? | 15:36 |
| ananth_n | None from me. And I need to drop | 15:37 |
| ananth_n | Bye all | 15:37 |
| ntpttr__ | okay sounds good, thanks everyone. If you have anything you'd like revewed feel free to drop the link here in irc | 15:37 |
| HuBian_ | thank you ~ | 15:37 |
| HuBian_ | bye ~ | 15:37 |
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| lin_yang | thanks everyone, bye | 15:38 |
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