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| alexchadin | licanwei: hi! | 08:31 |
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| licanwei | alexchadin: hi | 08:38 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: how are you? have you seen my message regarding shifting the meeting time? | 08:39 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: maillist? | 08:40 |
| alexchadin | yeap | 08:40 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: OK | 08:43 |
| alexchadin | I've seen hidekazu was here | 08:44 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: will Yumeng join us? | 08:45 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: yes | 08:45 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: just a minute | 08:46 |
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| alexchadin | Yumeng_: hi! | 08:49 |
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| Yumeng_ | hi Alex! | 08:50 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: hi! | 08:51 |
| Yumeng_ | hi hidekazu | 08:51 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng_: how are you? | 08:51 |
| hidekazu | which chennel is for the meeting? | 08:51 |
| hidekazu | here? | 08:51 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: hi | 08:51 |
| hidekazu | Yumeng_: hi | 08:51 |
| licanwei | hidekazu: hi | 08:51 |
| hidekazu | licanwei: hi | 08:52 |
| alexchadin | well, let's begin | 08:52 |
| alexchadin | our little agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#12.2F19.2F2018 | 08:53 |
| alexchadin | My responsibilities may be changed in the coming couple of months and I won't re-elect for Train release. I'm not leaving the project and will stay as core reviewer and contributor. | 08:53 |
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| alexchadin | so we need new PTL | 08:54 |
| alexchadin | I'd recommend licanwei to apply his candidacy if he wants, of course | 08:56 |
| alexchadin | since he's one of the most active contributors to the Watcher | 08:57 |
| hidekazu | +1 if he wants | 08:58 |
| Yumeng_ | alexchadin: agree, I would give my +1 | 08:58 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: You do a very great job for Watcher! | 08:59 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: I'll help you with any questions you have | 09:00 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: If no one want, maybe I can try the new role :) | 09:00 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: thanks! | 09:00 |
| alexchadin | well, to the next topic :) | 09:01 |
| alexchadin | Should we remove inactive core reviewers? | 09:01 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: +1 | 09:01 |
| alexchadin | I can start the thread in ML with this question | 09:02 |
| alexchadin | if I do it, I need your thoughts about it in answer | 09:02 |
| hidekazu | inactive over one year? | 09:02 |
| alexchadin | yes | 09:02 |
| licanwei | hidekazu: agree | 09:02 |
| Yumeng_ | +1 | 09:02 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: licanwei: over one year is reasonable for me. | 09:03 |
| alexchadin | great! will do it soon | 09:03 |
| alexchadin | next topic: To store datetime in UTC is a good practice. Relating user experience, should operator set audit start/end time in UTC or local time? | 09:03 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: audit start/end time is in UTC now | 09:04 |
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| alexchadin | licanwei: yes, but when operator types datetime, it takes in localtime and changing to UTC on Watcher API side | 09:05 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: yes | 09:05 |
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| licanwei | alexchadin: you want audit show in local time? | 09:06 |
| alexchadin | it may be a oddly, since operator may want to start audit at 12:00, but Watcher sets it to 09:00 UTC | 09:06 |
| alexchadin | does Watcher start audit on UTC or localtime? | 09:07 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: UTC | 09:07 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: all time in DB is UTC | 09:08 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: it's good to keep it in DB as UTC, I understand | 09:09 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: then changing to local when showing? | 09:09 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: but if operator lives in different timezone in compare with Watcher server, it may be oddly for him/her | 09:10 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: maybe we should mention in doc that operator should input localtime, but watcher will start audit in UTC time | 09:11 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: agree | 09:12 |
| hidekazu | you are thinking two oerators in different time zone may be a problem? | 09:12 |
| licanwei | hidekazu: yes | 09:14 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: I think that it doesn't make sense for operator when he set start/end time (being in +3 TZ) on 12:00 am, but Watcher begins to execute it on 09:00 am | 09:14 |
| hidekazu | set it as local time and execute it as local time, no problem. if he/she knows he/she set it as local time. | 09:17 |
| Yumeng_ | alexchadin: emmm... why that doesn't make sense ? | 09:17 |
| Yumeng_ | if one in +3 TZ, then 12:00 am equals 09:00am UTC, right? | 09:18 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng_: right | 09:18 |
| alexchadin | Yumeng_: that's why we probably should add a special remind about it in documentation | 09:19 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: so far we set it as local time and execute it as UTC | 09:19 |
| alexchadin | so which way would be better? | 09:19 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: I agree to remind it in documentation | 09:20 |
| licanwei | hidekazu: +1 | 09:21 |
| Yumeng_ | OK. I think local time maybe more user friendly. | 09:21 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: most operator wants to set as local time. | 09:21 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: I agree | 09:21 |
| alexchadin | but when should watcher execute it? | 09:22 |
| alexchadin | well, we can add a reminder about it for now | 09:24 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: If user set in local 12:00, he should want Watcher to run at this time, it's no problem | 09:25 |
| alexchadin | licanwei: at local 12:00? | 09:25 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: yes, local 12:00 , equal 9:00 UTC | 09:25 |
| alexchadin | then watcher should decide to start audit at UTC time + appropriate timezone | 09:26 |
| alexchadin | ah, I'm wrong :) | 09:27 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: :) | 09:27 |
| alexchadin | well, let's just make a reminder in doc and add "in UTC" to name of Start/End time columns in CLI | 09:28 |
| alexchadin | and the last thing I'd propose to add is summary messages to ML once per month | 09:29 |
| alexchadin | they would aggregate our work during last month and all discussion topics | 09:30 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: +1 | 09:30 |
| alexchadin | that would show community that project is alive and would attract more developers | 09:30 |
| hidekazu | like senlin newsletter? | 09:30 |
| alexchadin | hidekazu: yes | 09:31 |
| alexchadin | I may start it since January | 09:31 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: good! | 09:31 |
| alexchadin | let's try it :) | 09:32 |
| alexchadin | adisky: hi! | 09:32 |
| adisky | alexchadin: hi | 09:32 |
| alexchadin | adisky: I've missed the moment you connected :) | 09:32 |
| adisky | alexchadin: no problem, i didn't want to interrupt :) | 09:33 |
| hidekazu | alexchadin: she was bihind you. | 09:33 |
| alexchadin | O_O | 09:33 |
| alexchadin | well, I suppose that's enough for today and I'm going for dinner :) | 09:34 |
| alexchadin | thank you for coming! | 09:34 |
| licanwei | alexchadin: bye | 09:34 |
| Yumeng_ | have a good dinner :) | 09:34 |
| hidekazu | thanks, bye. | 09:34 |
| adisky | bye all | 09:34 |
| Yumeng_ | see you guys | 09:34 |
| alexchadin | see you! | 09:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander Chadin proposed openstack/watcher master: Remove unused modules https://review.openstack.org/626143 | 10:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Alexander Chadin proposed openstack/watcher master: [DNM] Add grenade job https://review.openstack.org/622946 | 11:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | yatin proposed openstack/puppet-watcher master: Use python3 wsgi script in Fedora and RedHat > 7 https://review.openstack.org/626165 | 12:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Alexander Chadin proposed openstack/watcher master: [DNM] Add grenade job https://review.openstack.org/622946 | 13:40 |
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