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| robynh | Hello, just proving I can get into IRC as never needed to use before. Took a couple of tries to find what worked. | 09:16 |
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| robynh | Looks like the fortnightly meeting is Monday 2000 UTC, which seems to map to Sydney Tuesday 2pm (It's now Monday 815pm in Sydney) | 09:18 |
| robynh | So, I'll try to make it back in tomorrow!!! | 09:18 |
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| spotz | robynh: Look forward to having you. | 12:26 |
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| spotz | diablo_rojo_phon SWDevAngel__ - 70 minute ping for today's meeting | 18:50 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Got it! Thanks! :) | 19:56 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Also using the Etherpad, right? | 19:57 |
| spotz | SWDevAngel__: Yeah cause it's got the agenda, but once the meeting starts everything typed in channel will be logged | 19:57 |
| * SWDevAngel__ Got it. | 19:58 | |
| spotz | Ok let's get this party started:) | 20:00 |
| spotz | #startmeeting women_of_openstack | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 13 20:00:56 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: women_of_openstack)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'women_of_openstack' | 20:01 |
| spotz | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_11_13_17 | 20:01 |
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| spotz | #topic roll call | 20:01 |
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| spotz | As this is our first IRC meeting, just say some thing or do o/ or some such | 20:01 |
| * SWDevAngel__ Waves | 20:02 | |
| spotz | We'll give folks another minute or 2 then run through the agenda | 20:03 |
| robynh | waving back | 20:03 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Perhaps people could sign into the etherpad also, and review (and add to) the agenda | 20:03 |
| spotz | Or just add in on Open Discussion. Normally the etherpad goes out ore then a day in advance so folks can add to it but I forgot while in Sydney and then was loopy Saturday:) | 20:05 |
| spotz | Welcome robynh | 20:05 |
| bfcohen_ | Hi. Just joined | 20:06 |
| spotz | And I suspect some folks are on vacation like Kendall and Anne:) | 20:06 |
| robynh | Hi, I live in Sydney, and first-time on IRC ever, and first-time on etherpad, so just ping me if I'm not following | 20:06 |
| spotz | Hey bfcohen_ | 20:06 |
| bfcohen_ | I am just very jetlagged. | 20:07 |
| spotz | robynh: No worries:) | 20:07 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Yeah - me too on the jetlag! ;) | 20:07 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Welcome Robynh | 20:07 |
| SWDevAngel__ | LOVE your town (Sydney)! You guys were GREAT hosts! :) | 20:07 |
| spotz | robynh: so everyone can just type on the etherpad and it's autosaved. The openstack bot was started for the meeting so everything will be recorded to a log which will be available afterwards | 20:08 |
| robynh | :) best place in the world but I'm biased | 20:08 |
| spotz | Yeah loved sydney, hope to make it back for a real vacation | 20:08 |
| * SWDevAngel__ mee too | 20:09 | |
| spotz | #topic Sydney Summit | 20:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sydney Summit (Meeting topic: women_of_openstack)" | 20:09 | |
| spotz | #topic Working lunch | 20:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Working lunch (Meeting topic: women_of_openstack)" | 20:09 | |
| spotz | Cause I like sub topics:) | 20:09 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Okay - here's where my IRC meeting skills suck. How do you type comments in the sub topics? | 20:09 |
| bfcohen_ | I will figure this out. | 20:09 |
| spotz | I think the lunch discussions went really well. I couldn't remember the link Jessica had on the papers to add it to the etherpad so if someone has it please add it here with #link url | 20:10 |
| spotz | Just type:) | 20:10 |
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| bfcohen_ | Speed Mentoring had too many mentors and not enough mentees. IMHO. | 20:11 |
| spotz | Except really for #link most 'commands' will be typed by the meeting leader | 20:11 |
| * SWDevAngel__ yeah - I'm with ya Beth. I'm glad @diablo_rojo isn't here to laugh at me! ;) (Not that she would, but.... ya know... just saying...) ;) | 20:11 | |
| spotz | 40 signed up but my huess is 15 showed to speed mentoring | 20:11 |
| bfcohen_ | Liked the lunch and awesome scarf, where it today! | 20:11 |
| bfcohen_ | It was the first day and the location was hard to find. | 20:12 |
| bfcohen_ | wearing | 20:12 |
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| SWDevAngel__ | I know both Julia and I had issues with our calendar Sync and were off a day on the mentoring. My whole Monday cal got screwed up with the timezone issues. | 20:12 |
| robynh | I was really lost on that first day. I was using the web version of the Summit schedule and it was laggy. Had the app from the 2nd day. | 20:13 |
| spotz | Yeah I had some calendar issues too. We could probably ask to do it later in the week for Vancouver but I think one of the reasons to have it early is so folks can follow up with any connections made | 20:13 |
| bfcohen_ | App version was better. Also the venue was nice, but a bit spread out. | 20:13 |
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| bfcohen_ | Maybe Tuesday for the mentoring. Monday for the lunch as there are more people who have been there before who are likely to attend. | 20:14 |
| spotz | I was mainly on 4th floor all week, a few on the third. It wasn't that much different spready wise then the Open Source Summit in LA | 20:14 |
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| bfcohen_ | No, but it always takes me a day or so to get into the swing of things. | 20:15 |
| SWDevAngel__ | I loved the venue. Thought it was great! | 20:15 |
| spotz | I know we need to go back to at least having the email blasts to all women attendees before hand like we used. That was some feedback to my group during lunch. When foundation folks are back I want to ask them to do an email blast for the meetings to invite new folks | 20:16 |
| rockyg | Wish I could have been there, but had more important stuff. | 20:16 |
| spotz | We missed you thoough rockyg | 20:16 |
| SWDevAngel__ | There was some good feedback in the feedback session that they did on Wednesday (with the Community Leadership Lunch). I'm not sure where that Etherpad lives now but if someone finds it, worth adding comments there. | 20:16 |
| spotz | SWDevAngel__: I had to miss it for the lunch and learn, was right next door but we had around 25-30 folks and just me and 1 helper | 20:17 |
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| SWDevAngel__ | @rockyg what could possibly be more important? ;) | 20:17 |
| rockyg | Fixing my severe sleep apnea ;-) I'm getting better. I would have been useless the way I was before starting treatment | 20:18 |
| bfcohen_ | There are so many sessions and you have to pick and choose. | 20:18 |
| SWDevAngel__ | I also think we should go back to what we did in Barcelona... greeting people at registration and talking to the women there and handing out stickers and fliers with the activities printed on them. That was effective. MANY women we met that day didn't know about WOO stuff. | 20:18 |
| spotz | Well presenting/teaching meant I couldn't ditch out:) But I think it went well despite having to start at getting folks their loging | 20:18 |
| robynh | I kept losing my bearings, and I knew what the room names meant! It's a re-built convention centre and it had a funny flow to the floors and rooms. | 20:19 |
| bfcohen_ | Ah, that was it. And we only took over about one third of the space. The escalators were all in a spot far away from most of the rooms. | 20:19 |
| spotz | SWDevAngel__: We may not get the flyers back but I think we can definitely get stacks of stickers to hand out. We also got feed back to do the Friendly Faces meetup as well | 20:20 |
| rockyg | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-feedback | 20:20 |
| robynh | Alot of the vendors were handing out postcards with their sessions printed on them. I received at least 2 or 3. But there was so much on | 20:20 |
| bfcohen_ | Cool. I did miss that. Stickers are easy and cheap to do and hand out. I am OK with no flyers. | 20:20 |
| spotz | So sounds like we need to bring some stuff we've done in the past back | 20:20 |
| * SWDevAngel__ Ahhh thanks Rocky! | 20:20 | |
| * SWDevAngel__ and glad you're feeling better! :) | 20:21 | |
| spotz | robynh: Yeah yo definitely have to pick and choose | 20:21 |
| bfcohen_ | Friendly Faces are important for the global community. Agree we should bring them back. | 20:21 |
| SWDevAngel__ | They had WOO stickers at the Foundation Lounge. They were cute. Smaller than what we had in Barca. I handed a few out and put one on my badge. People kept asking me where I got it! :) | 20:22 |
| rockyg | Sounds like you should have grabbed a stack and handed them out to those who asked | 20:23 |
| bfcohen_ | I never saw them. I did not spend as much time at the Foundation Lounge as I usually do. | 20:23 |
| spotz | They weren't out all the time. I was through there a few times talking to people | 20:24 |
| SWDevAngel__ | I liked the location of the Foundation Lounge this time. It was near the Marketplace but not in it. But easy to get to. | 20:24 |
| SWDevAngel__ | I only went there for scheduled meetings though. And to say hi to folks. :) | 20:24 |
| robynh | those scarves were amazing..... and I think really easy to spot at a distance...... I wonder if there's something in that.... I'm thinking of being able to spot diversity champions at a summit | 20:25 |
| bfcohen_ | Would need a sponsor to pay for them, but good idea. | 20:25 |
| SWDevAngel__ | rockyg yeah - I did that. :) | 20:25 |
| spotz | While everyone won't have them for Vancouver if not in Sydney, I'd likt to see folks either wear or tie them onto their backpacks at PTG and summits | 20:26 |
| bfcohen_ | I will for sure do that. | 20:26 |
| rockyg | missed the scarves. Anyone have a picture? | 20:26 |
| SWDevAngel__ | I didn't pick one up. Did anyone take the extras? (If there were any?) | 20:27 |
| spotz | SWDevAngel__: They gave them out at the Intel booth. All gone | 20:27 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Ahhhhh, i see | 20:27 |
| robynh | maybe source a really similar colour fabric? and not worry about the mascot design | 20:28 |
| SWDevAngel__ | +1 on the pic. Did anyone take a group pic with the scarves and post it anywhere? | 20:29 |
| spotz | robynh: Yeah we can definitely say if you don't have one and want to be a 'greeter'/whatever get a light blue something to tie on or wear | 20:29 |
| spotz | Not with the scarves but Shilla tweeted a version of the gorup pic | 20:30 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Okay, lemme look... | 20:31 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Got it. Here: https://twitter.com/ShillaSaebi/status/927729939880624128 | 20:31 |
| spotz | We've kinda been hitting all the summmit topics at once so just want to bring in the outing though only bfcohen_ and I who are on went. There were some Upstream Institute folks again and then AT&T and a few OSA filled out the ranks to get us the private tour | 20:31 |
| robynh | Oh, just found a good pic of the scarf https://twitter.com/knelson92/status/927710570253393920 | 20:32 |
| SWDevAngel__ | spotz hey | 20:33 |
| * SWDevAngel__ see... didn't work | 20:33 | |
| * SWDevAngel__ or did it? | 20:33 | |
| spotz | It did:) | 20:34 |
| bfcohen_ | The Ghost Tour was fun. Very different from the Boston one. WOuld make it a regular feature. | 20:34 |
| spotz | I think everyone who went had fun, we should be able to find one for Vancouver for sure if we're near an 'old' part of town | 20:36 |
| SWDevAngel__ | spotz okay - doesn't show up on my screen. maybe cuz on the web client? but good to know | 20:36 |
| bfcohen_ | We will. | 20:36 |
| spotz | SWDevAngel__: I'd have to check the webclient out | 20:36 |
| spotz | Anything else for Summit discussion? No one is on for mentoring so we'll skip that | 20:37 |
| bfcohen_ | I just checked and there are several to pick from. | 20:37 |
| bfcohen_ | Mentoring I thought was not good. Not enough mentees. Some mentees were not really mentees. I had acouple of those. | 20:38 |
| bfcohen_ | https://forbiddenvancouver.ca/lost-souls-of-gastown-vancouver-tour/ | 20:39 |
| SWDevAngel__ | bfcohen_ if they weren't mentees, what where they? (Just curious?) | 20:39 |
| ellopunk | Hi all, A little late as I got distracted and left IRC hanging out behind my terminal. I went to the mentoring session and was lucky that spotz sat and spoke with me. But I do think things were a bit chaotic so would have been a bit lost without that. | 20:40 |
| bfcohen_ | Not sure. There were just a preponderance of mentors. | 20:40 |
| spotz | Thanks ellopunk:) | 20:40 |
| robynh | I'm not familiar with a speed mentoring concept. Do you set up ground rules? How are pairs negotiated? | 20:40 |
| spotz | Yeah I think that was a result of the 40 who signed up and most not showing up | 20:40 |
| SWDevAngel__ | Yeah - I spoke to a new person who said she had 2 mentors at her table, but she said it was a great discussion, and appreciated it greatly. | 20:40 |
| bfcohen_ | There are ground rules, but they were not clearly spelled out at the session. | 20:41 |
| spotz | robynh: It's tables of 1-2 mentors and then mentees numbers varying by attendance | 20:41 |
| robynh | Sorry I didn't know about it - would have come. Sounds like there was a mix of issues. | 20:42 |
| spotz | 10 minutes of mentoring at that table then the mentors moved to another table and process started again. Community had 2 mentees so we all just stayed put and chatted | 20:42 |
| bfcohen_ | Technical had few people who I would count as needing any mentoring. | 20:43 |
| spotz | So maybe better processing of RSVPs and go back to requiring them unless there's room? | 20:44 |
| ellopunk | @bfcohen_ was it others did not need mentoring or perhaps could not rely what they were looking for in mentoring? (honest question) | 20:44 |
| bfcohen_ | Possibly. I spoke to a nice gentlemen from a local University and I wasn't quite sure what he was looking to get out of the discussion. | 20:45 |
| bfcohen_ | We had a pleasent chat, but he didn't have many questions. | 20:45 |
| bfcohen_ | @Spotz I do not think we should require RSVPs. | 20:46 |
| ellopunk | I brought up the idea in the next lunch of maybe helping out prospective mentees in setting goals for mentorship. I know that many times I feel like a deer in headlights when I'm asked that question. I know "help , I feel lost." does not give a mentor what they need but sometimes thats all that formulates in my head. | 20:47 |
| SWDevAngel__ | I have to jump in my car now, so prolly not safe to "driving while IRCing" ... so I will catch up and read the rest of the comments after. Thanks y'all! Been fun chatting! :) See you in two weeks! | 20:47 |
| spotz | Seeya SWDevAngel__ It was good seeing yo last week! | 20:47 |
| * SWDevAngel__ waves bye | 20:47 | |
| ellopunk | drive safely :) | 20:47 |
| SWDevAngel__ | spotz you too! :) :) :) | 20:47 |
| SWDevAngel__ | ellopunk THANKS! | 20:47 |
| bfcohen_ | @SWDevAngel Bye. "see you" in 2 weeks | 20:48 |
| spotz | ellopunk: They do that as part of the long term mentoring | 20:48 |
| robynh | waving | 20:48 |
| rockyg | drive safely! | 20:48 |
| bfcohen_ | @Spotz how did the Git and Gerrit L&L go? | 20:49 |
| ellopunk | @spotz maybe I joined it late because outside of a word document I don't feel that I really received much help with setting goals and outlining how I could get the most out of mentorship. Not complaining just honest feedback. | 20:49 |
| spotz | bfcohen_: Only 1 helper showed up, but we had about 25 folks and got them logins, software and almost everyone up to submitting a patch | 20:50 |
| spotz | ellopunk: I think speed mentoring is too short for having real goals, but is great for asking questions | 20:51 |
| spotz | That's just my take on it | 20:51 |
| spotz | 9 minutes FYI | 20:51 |
| bfcohen_ | @ellopunk Speed mentoring is more about asking questions then anything deep. I think it works well as along as the ground rules are spelled out. | 20:52 |
| ellopunk | understood | 20:52 |
| spotz | #topic open discussion | 20:54 |
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| spotz | Just cause we're getting short of time | 20:55 |
| spotz | If anyone is interested in joining the Diversity WG let me know. It looks like there's 2 members of the TC wanting to get it going again as well as myself | 20:55 |
| spotz | 3 minutes. Anyone else have anything they want to mention/bring up? | 20:57 |
| robynh | nothing from me, I'm more in listener mode | 20:58 |
| bfcohen_ | Nothing here. | 20:59 |
| rockyg | nope | 20:59 |
| spotz | I want to thank everyone for coming to the first IRC meeting! | 20:59 |
| bfcohen_ | Two weeks to next meeting. | 21:00 |
| spotz | If you're interested in leading a meeting sign up here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_Agenda_Tracker | 21:00 |
| spotz | I've only put 2 more meetings up for this year figuring folks will be out later in December | 21:00 |
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| spotz | And with that | 21:01 |
| spotz | #endmeeting | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Women of OpenStack | Welcome all! | Code of conduct: https://www.openstack.org/legal/community-code-of-conduct/" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 13 21:01:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/women_of_openstack/2017/women_of_openstack.2017-11-13-20.00.html | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/women_of_openstack/2017/women_of_openstack.2017-11-13-20.00.txt | 21:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/women_of_openstack/2017/women_of_openstack.2017-11-13-20.00.log.html | 21:01 |
| robynh | Thanks. Will try to make next one. | 21:01 |
| spotz | I'll pop those links in the etherpad | 21:02 |
| mguiney | same, thought it was tuesday | 21:02 |
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| mguiney | or wednesday, rather. the meetings info is incorrect, looks like | 21:03 |
| mguiney | on eavesdrop | 21:03 |
| spotz | mguiney: I'll take a look | 21:04 |
| mguiney | cool :) | 21:06 |
| mguiney | i might be totally out of my mind of course, just thought i'd give y'all a heads up in case | 21:06 |
| mguiney | heh. looks like i may have been mistaken | 21:08 |
| spotz | Ok mentoring is on tuesday or wednesday, we're not actually on there. I'll look into getting this meeting there | 21:08 |
| spotz | I'll get a patch up later this week | 21:09 |
| mguiney | rad, thanks :) | 21:10 |
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