Monday, 2018-02-05

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diablo_rojo_Meeting in 6 minutes!19:55
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diablo_rojo_#startmeeting women_of_openstack20:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Feb  5 20:01:20 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is diablo_rojo_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'women_of_openstack'20:01
diablo_rojo_spotz, diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, SWDevAngel__, eeiden20:02
diablo_rojo_There is no bot :(20:02
spotzWe have a bot20:02
diablo_rojo_Its a pretty short agenda today.20:02
diablo_rojo_So I will go throught the admin stuff first until some people show up :)20:02
annabelleBo/20:03
diablo_rojo_First on the admin list, User Committee nominations are open!20:03
diablo_rojo_Nominate yourself by sending an email to user-committee@lists.openstack.org with the subject "UC Candidacy"20:03
diablo_rojo_Oh, I should have shared the agenda when I started the meeting.20:03
diablo_rojo_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_Agenda_Tracker Agenda20:04
annabelleBare there any users attending today that we can push to nominate themselves? ;)20:04
spotzMake sure you're a AUC first, we had to turn down one nomination last time20:04
diablo_rojo_Next on the admin list, PTL nominations are open!20:05
diablo_rojo_#link https://governance.openstack.org/election/#queens-ptl-candidates20:05
spotz2 women so far nominated:)20:05
diablo_rojo_It would be really awesome to see some kickass ladies step into these roles!20:05
diablo_rojo_Two women on the TC last election was awesome. Lets take over governance :)20:06
diablo_rojo_#topic CFP20:06
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spotzI think one was Melanie Witt and the other was Julia Kreiger20:06
diablo_rojo_The CFP for Vancouver is still open for a few more days! You have until the 8th to get your awesome ideas in.20:06
diablo_rojo_Usually there are some emails that float around about making a WOO panel. Havent seen any of those yet.20:07
spotzYeah Nicole usually had one panel going at the least20:08
diablo_rojo_If you are interested in submitting, but don't have the courage, give our awesome podacast a listen!20:08
diablo_rojo_link http://3e0938c72320c1e97db5-a29d7d5063cc8716c60b936b269f2da7.r31.cf1.rackcdn.com/woo%20cfp%20talk.mp3 CFP Podcast20:08
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annabelleBhm…do we have anything to present on separate from the WOO lunch? (i’m assuming there’s a WOO lunch scheduled for Van)20:08
diablo_rojo_Hopefully we will get rolling on a follow up to that one soon about what to do when you hear back about if your talk has been accepted or not.20:08
diablo_rojo_But first you have to submit your talks before that even matters!20:09
spotzGit and Gerrit is in if anyone is interested in. Still working on others20:09
spotzDo we have any WoO sponsores yet?20:09
diablo_rojo_#topic PTG20:09
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diablo_rojo_There will be a number of events in the evenings at the PTG, should have more concrete details about all of that soon.20:10
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diablo_rojo_There will for sure be a woo happy hour wednesday though. So if you are going to be at the PTG, and will be around Wednesday evening, add your name to the list!20:11
diablo_rojo_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DUB_WOO_HH Woo HH20:11
diablo_rojo_#topic Mentoring20:11
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diablo_rojo_This is the last topic we have on the agenda today... but since there isn't anyone here but me today, I think I might hold it till next meeting.20:12
spotzOk20:12
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spotzOk that was weird20:13
annabelleBI wonder if the time change got some folks confused and that’s why we’re empty20:14
rockygo/20:14
rockygI just got in...20:14
AngehOkay...!!!20:14
spotzHey rockyg20:14
annabelleBhi rockyg! we had a very small agenda today and were just about through it20:14
annabelleBbut also wondering if people were anticipating showing up an hour later….20:14
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rockygOops!  Well, glad I didn't miss you.20:14
spotzI'm wondering if Kendall could see us. She didn't think the bot was here20:14
diablo_rojo_rockyg, spotz my client just had a siezure20:15
diablo_rojo_I can see you now lol20:15
rockygLooks like she has the bot on her computer, but not on her phone.20:15
diablo_rojo_So from my view I was talking to myself for 15 min lol.20:15
annabelleBagenda is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_Agenda_Tracker20:15
rockygOuch!20:15
AngehI was here20:15
annabelleBoh really?20:15
diablo_rojo_Should I just start over?20:15
spotzdiablo_rojo_: I was wondering cause I was talking with you and then you where like no one's here but me!20:15
annabelleBhaha shall we take it from the top?20:15
diablo_rojo_Lol20:15
diablo_rojo_Ha ha ha ha ha20:16
diablo_rojo_Okay, so it the meetbot recording currently?20:16
rockygAt least it was a sw client, not a human ;-)20:16
spotzdiablo_rojo_: I didn't see any close out messages20:16
diablo_rojo_I stopped at the Mentoring topic20:16
diablo_rojo_Cuase I wanted to see if more people would show up lol.20:16
annabelleBspotz and i don’t mind i’m sure, let’s start from the beginning!20:17
annabelleBo/20:17
diablo_rojo_Okay.20:17
spotzdiablo_rojo_: And take 2!20:17
rockygo/20:17
diablo_rojo_So todays Agenda20:17
diablo_rojo_# link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_Agenda_Tracker20:17
diablo_rojo_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/WOS_Agenda_Tracker20:17
diablo_rojo_#topic Administrativa20:17
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diablo_rojo_User Committee Nominations are open!20:18
diablo_rojo_Nominate yourself by sending an email to user-committee@lists.openstack.org with the subject "UC Candidacy"20:18
spotzPlease make sure you have AUC, last round we had to tell someone they weren't:(20:18
diablo_rojo_Also PTL nominations are still open!20:18
diablo_rojo_spotz, running into similar with PTLs not having foundation member profiles20:19
diablo_rojo_Or them being expired20:19
rockygYeah, I think the requirements for AUC need to be broadcast20:19
rockygAt least right now.20:19
spotzAs mentioned first time around 2 women running for PTG so far20:19
rockygSo folks can make sure they can vote, too20:19
diablo_rojo_rockyg, +120:19
spotzFrom their meeting earlier looks like they're also going to discuss where SIG's stand20:20
annabelleBthe superuser article that just went up has a link to the AUC reqs, and we can keep putting it in any emails that go out abou nominations20:20
diablo_rojo_I think involvement in SIGs is going to count towards AUC20:20
rockygShould be a way to check if you are listed as AUC.  There should be an app for that....20:20
spotzIn Sydney we talked in one session about a badge on profiles20:20
diablo_rojo_but I dont think its for sure yet20:20
diablo_rojo_spotz, that would be super helpful20:20
rockyg++20:21
diablo_rojo_AUC, ATC, COA, OUI, etc20:21
spotzI think Jimmy was going to look into it20:21
diablo_rojo_As far as nominations go, it would be great to see more female leadership.20:21
annabelleBand first timers too20:21
diablo_rojo_Two women on the TC is awesome. Would be good to spread the influence.20:21
diablo_rojo_annabelleB, +120:22
diablo_rojo_#topic CFP20:22
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oikikihi just jumping in im an intern working on magnum and saying hi20:22
spotzWelcome oikiki!20:22
rockygWelcome!20:22
diablo_rojo_You all have until Feb 8th to submit talk ideas if you have them!20:22
annabelleBhi oikiki! welcome!20:22
oikikihi spotz!20:22
diablo_rojo_Welcome oikiki :)20:23
spotzGit and Gerrit is in, 2 more in the works20:23
oikikihi annabelleB and diablo_rojo_ !!20:23
annabelleBand there’s more than just openstack in Vancouver, so if you’re working in another area, submitttttt!20:23
annabelleB(anything open container infra, hpc, edge, etc)20:23
diablo_rojo_spotz, awesome :)20:23
diablo_rojo_If you need an extra push to get over your fears of submitting, listed to our awesome podcast!20:24
oikikicould you share the link to the podcast?20:24
diablo_rojo_#link http://3e0938c72320c1e97db5-a29d7d5063cc8716c60b936b269f2da7.r31.cf1.rackcdn.com/woo%20cfp%20talk.mp3 CFP Podcast20:24
spotzAnd if you need help just ask, we can help review20:24
diablo_rojo_oikiki, got you covered :)20:24
AngehHi oikiki . Welcome :-)20:24
oikikithank you! and hi Angeh!20:24
diablo_rojo_We are also planning to do a follow up podcast on what to do when you hear back from the programming committee- coping with a No or preparing since they said yes.20:25
AngehNice podcast diablo_rojo_  just listented to it20:25
diablo_rojo_Angeh, thanks :) It was super fun to put together with PagliaccisCloud TheJulia, and annabelleB :)20:25
diablo_rojo_annabelleB, anything else on the CFP?20:26
AngehYea. It sure got me encouraged20:26
annabelleBjust send them IN!20:26
annabelleBusually there’s a WOO session of some sort, but I don’t think we have any pressing topics that demand a session this go round20:26
diablo_rojo_Angeh, awesome :) If you have something you want to submit and want an extra pair of eyes or some suggestions on how to improve, let annabelleB or spotz or I know.20:26
oikikiare past talks recorded? to get an idea of what people talk about?20:26
diablo_rojo_oikiki, yes there are, let me grab a link20:27
annabelleBoikiki: absolutely. at openstack.org/videos you can see them all20:27
oikikioh sweet thank you!20:27
diablo_rojo_annabelleB, beat me :)20:27
spotzI'm going to do one for Diversity and Inclusion but I was doing it from the Diversity WG side of things20:27
oikikinot sure if this go round id be much of a speaker but hopefully this is just the beginning of my work on OpenStack so want to be prepared :)20:27
diablo_rojo_oikiki, another thing you can do it try to get on someone else's panel.20:28
spotzWe could still do a WoO panel to diferentian20:28
diablo_rojo_That way you arent giving a talk on your own.20:28
diablo_rojo_But can still get involved now20:28
oikikihow do panels work vs talks?20:28
oikikido you submit to be on a panel? or..?20:29
spotzPanel has a moderator and then 2-4 people that they ask questions20:29
diablo_rojo_Panels are a conversation between a moderator and up to four others.20:29
spotzoikiki: And yeah you submit as a panel, or a presentation or even a workshop20:29
oikikiah20:29
diablo_rojo_oikiki, you kind of need to know someone that is working on putting one together or you can come up with an idea and moderate and then just ask for volunteers.20:30
annabelleBdo you have any subjects in mind spotz? not opposed, just couldn’t think of anything different for Van20:30
diablo_rojo_annabelleB, same, thats why I hadn't started pushing something.20:30
spotzI think we've done thy obstackles faced already. At Open Source Summit we had allies but I'm not sure what the topic was in Syd20:31
diablo_rojo_oikiki, it might be interesting for you to put a panel together as a new contributor, ask questions from your perspective to those that have more experience.20:31
diablo_rojo_What the exact topic would be is up to you.20:31
diablo_rojo_Just a thought, no pressure :)20:32
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oikikiill consider it diablo_rojo!20:32
diablo_rojo_spotz, I don't remember either.20:32
spotzYeah one of my favorites was PTLs aren't scary:)20:33
spotzI think that one was in Barcelona20:33
diablo_rojo_Could do one on women in governance.20:33
oikikiare panels submitted via the presentation submission form or elsewhere?20:33
diablo_rojo_oikiki, all submitted in the same form20:33
oikikigrat20:34
oikikigreat*20:34
spotzoikiki: Same form and you don't have to have anyone but you there just to submit you can add later20:34
diablo_rojo_:)20:34
diablo_rojo_Okay, I think I am going to move on.20:34
diablo_rojo_Reminder the deadline is the 8th.20:34
diablo_rojo_#topic PTG20:34
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diablo_rojo_So, any news spotz ?20:34
spotzI'm a no:(20:35
diablo_rojo_There are going to be several events in the evening that week aside from the WoO Happy hour, those details should be out soon.20:35
diablo_rojo_If you are going to be at the PTG and around Wednesday evening, please add your name to the list!20:36
spotz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DUB_WOO_HH20:36
diablo_rojo_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/DUB_WOO_HH WOO HH20:36
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spotzheheh20:36
diablo_rojo_spotz :)20:36
diablo_rojo_I am also planning a game night20:36
diablo_rojo_And there will be the standard Event Happy Hour the beginning of the week too.20:36
rockygcool!  Too bad I won't be there, either.20:36
diablo_rojo_Hopefully we have more than just vkmc, annabelleB and me..though we would have a ton of fun just the three of us.20:37
annabelleBthere’s more female contributors than just us!20:37
* diablo_rojo_ might get ahold of registration and try to fish for more people20:38
spotzMaybe a mass email of women atendees to invite?20:38
diablo_rojo_spotz, yeah, contemplating that.20:38
spotzWe definitely need to do it before Vancouver20:38
diablo_rojo_spotz, agreed20:38
diablo_rojo_Anything else on the PTG from anyone?20:39
AngehYea20:40
diablo_rojo_What sup Angeh?20:40
AngehWhat ever is discussed at the pTG will be sahred with others?20:40
Angeh*shared20:40
diablo_rojo_Angeh, generally yes, though each project does it differently usually.20:41
spotzMost will have an etherpad with notes going for their sessions20:41
AngehWill the be a team meeting for openstack women?20:41
diablo_rojo_Some will actually set up to accomodate virtual attendees- google hangouts or zoom meeting or similar.20:41
diablo_rojo_Basically all teams take notes and many will post summaries to the ML20:41
diablo_rojo_Angeh, no there wont20:41
AngehOk20:42
diablo_rojo_Angeh, the PTG is mostly for project teams. WoO is kind of special where its not focused on delivering a certain project, but isn't a SIG or a WG either.20:42
spotzAngeh: The Happy Hour is the closest there will be20:42
diablo_rojo_Exactly spotz :)20:42
AngehOhhh. I get it20:43
spotzIn Vancouver we'll have a lunch, and 1-2 informal things20:43
diablo_rojo_The Project Team Gathering is more focused on technical discussions and implementation of features and roadmapping, release planning, etc20:44
diablo_rojo_Am I good to move on now?20:45
diablo_rojo_Any other questions? :)20:45
diablo_rojo_Okay, I'm gonna move on.20:46
diablo_rojo_#topic Mentoring20:46
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diablo_rojo_So, sounds like people are solid about switching styles.20:46
annabelleBawesome!20:46
oikikiis there a mentoring program?20:47
diablo_rojo_Since the group helping with Mentoring has shrunk to me and ekhugen- when she has a tiny bit of time I think I am going to bring those discussions back here.20:47
diablo_rojo_oikiki, there is :)20:47
diablo_rojo_Its currently going to get changed around format wise20:47
oikikimy perpetual question: is there a link? :D20:47
diablo_rojo_oikiki, yes, but its going to change a ton from what is there.20:47
oikikiah ok20:48
oikikithis is for openstack generally or for the conference?20:48
diablo_rojo_So, stick around for this convo and share input :) \20:48
diablo_rojo_Generally20:48
oikikiah ok nice20:48
diablo_rojo_So, in this new format we will have 1-3 mentors to 1-8 mentees focused on completeing some specific goal depending on what sort of mentoring they are interested in.20:48
diablo_rojo_Community, Technical, or Career.20:49
diablo_rojo_We need to brainstorm goals and come up with a set.20:49
diablo_rojo_Technical is fairly straight forward- push a patch and get it merged.20:49
diablo_rojo_Could have a goal to write and submit an abstract for a CFP.20:50
diablo_rojo_Maybe could expand that one to actually giving a talk.20:50
diablo_rojo_I have like no ideas after that though.20:50
diablo_rojo_oikiki, Angeh as newer community members, what are some goals you have?20:50
oikikiI really like the work that I'm doing on OpenStack Magnum for my internship and would like to figure out how to do this as a job.20:51
oikikiBecause it's awesome!!20:51
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diablo_rojo_oikiki, so maybe a goal to like..tailor your resume/network towards getting a job working on openstack?20:52
oikikiyes20:53
AngehOkay. I have gone through the mentoring program20:54
AngehAnd it is grr. I have made my 1st real pathc:-)20:55
diablo_rojo_Okay cool, so the goal would be considered completed when you submit an application? get an inverview? get hired?20:55
Angeh*patch20:55
oikikifor me get hired20:55
AngehAnd a couple of reviews20:55
AngehI just found out openstack got accepted for the Google summer of code and i would like to participate in that20:55
diablo_rojo_I suppose the criteria for completion could be a little less defined for that one..20:56
diablo_rojo_Angeh, that is awesome!20:56
AngehAnd eventually be an openstack ambassador :-)20:56
diablo_rojo_Angeh, I thought gsoc decisions weren't for a few days still20:56
diablo_rojo_Angeh, that would be awesome20:56
spotzYeah from an email I have from vmkc last night I think she hadn't heard back yet20:57
diablo_rojo_We submitted, but I think the 12th is when we hear back.20:57
Angeh:-)20:57
AngehOk.20:57
diablo_rojo_Other goals you two have oikiki and Angeh?20:58
AngehAnd get hired too20:58
diablo_rojo_Trying to keep the goals to attainable within 6ish months.20:58
diablo_rojo_Lol20:58
AngehLol20:59
diablo_rojo_We could have one be to spin up devstack and work through the study guide for the COA exam.20:59
oikikiI think generally, I'd like to see how OpenStack works in production. I've been doing patches on Magnum for my internship, but it would be great to see how people are using it. Though maybe that's for the summit.20:59
oikiki"see" in a more general sense21:00
diablo_rojo_oikiki, yeah, a lot of that is at the summit and reading the superuser blog.21:00
oikikiah great21:00
diablo_rojo_#link http://superuser.openstack.org/ SuperUser21:00
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oikikiyeah im looking forward to the summit for that reason21:01
oikikithanks for the link21:01
AngehMe too21:01
diablo_rojo_oikiki, you are attending for sure?21:01
diablo_rojo_Angeh, you too?21:01
oikikiI'm planning to because I want to meet the team irl21:02
annabelleB(not sure if either of you are students, but if so, make sure to fill out the student discount form! it’s significant)21:02
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oikikivkmc gave us interns some info about grants and things too21:02
rockygYou may check out some of the OpenStack based public clouds.  A number of them are participating in the "OpenStack Passport" program.21:02
diablo_rojo_There is also TSP you can apply for. DISCLAIMER, a ton of people apply so its hard to get selected, but you have nothing to lose :)21:02
rockygFree access to try out the cloud on their site.21:03
diablo_rojo_oikiki, okay cool :)21:03
diablo_rojo_Good call rockyg :)21:03
oikikithanks rockyg!21:03
diablo_rojo_Oh shoot, we are technically over time for the meeting.21:03
annabelleBTSP being “Travel Support Program”21:03
diablo_rojo_Feel free to hang around and chat more though21:03
spotzseeya rockyg21:03
diablo_rojo_#endmeeting21:03
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oikikiyeah we went over that in the intern meeting :)21:03
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diablo_rojo_oikiki, happy to have you in the community :)21:04
oikikithanks diablo_rojo_ i really really love working on this21:04
AngehNo. My passport got delayed21:05
diablo_rojo_oikiki, I feel the same :)21:05
diablo_rojo_Angeh, real passport?21:06
AngehYea21:06
AngehThey ministry said it only be out early march21:07
rockygHave a great week!21:07
AngehBt it cool cuz the is still the summit21:08
AngehU too rockyg21:08
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