Monday, 2018-08-06

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spotzMeeting in about an hour, pings result in booting so here's a non-ping ping:)18:50
diablo_rojobooting if the person isn't registered?18:52
diablo_rojoor just booting?18:53
ell_o_punk_log:)19:43
spotzJay got booted I'm pretty sure he's registered:)19:50
spotzMeeting in 10!19:50
spotzI think it's so folks can't register then spam but not 100%19:51
diablo_rojoI know the registration requirement is because of the spam, but not sure about the booting part19:57
spotzI think it might just be freenode behaviour I took jay at his warning19:58
diablo_rojoHuh20:00
spotz#startmeeting women_of_openstack20:01
openstackMeeting started Mon Aug  6 20:01:05 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is spotz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'women_of_openstack'20:01
spotz#topic roll call20:01
spotzLet's get this party started20:01
diablo_rojoo/20:01
spotzWe20:02
spotzWe'll see if Ell or anyone else pops in.20:03
ell_o_punk_logI'm here sorry trying to learn how to record20:03
spotzWhy don't you plan on coming here Thursday for a bit?20:04
spotzCourse I don't do oncamera20:04
spotzwe'll talk later20:04
ell_o_punk_logkk!20:04
spotz#topic PTG20:05
diablo_rojoI'll be there.20:05
spotzDo we want to try to have an informal get together of some type? Dinner? I looked at Ghost tours and i don't think there's any close by but don't know the area20:05
diablo_rojoTrying to get my outreachy intern there too20:05
diablo_rojoNothing close20:06
spotzI know Rain will be there, Julia and I think Jill. Not sure who else20:06
diablo_rojoGuessing Helen as well- not sure though.20:06
diablo_rojoI think just meeting during one of the happy hours would be sufficient.20:07
spotzOk, do we have anymore info yet or too far out?20:07
diablo_rojoWe have a lot of stuff going on that week- tuesday is a welcome happy hour, wed or thurs we will have game night again and trivia night I think.20:07
diablo_rojonot sure which is which20:07
diablo_rojoMonday night I think we will have something small in the bar too but its not set yet20:08
spotzOk and I think OPS meetup might do something, their mainly there Mon-Tues20:08
diablo_rojoYeah + team dinners.20:09
diablo_rojoSo I think picking a corner to meet in during the monday/tuesday happy hours should be sufficient?20:09
spotzSo let's keep an eye out on the schedule then propose something. Even a table or lunch outing? Not sure if lunch is on site or not20:09
spotzANything else on PTG?20:11
diablo_rojoLunch is on site.20:11
spotzOk so maybe we grab a corner then if happy hours don't work20:12
diablo_rojoThe hotel isn't super conveniently located so we are kind of our own island20:12
diablo_rojoYeah20:12
diablo_rojothat sounds good20:12
spotzOk not many people here but I would like to at least discuss the WoO mission feedback from summit or we never will20:12
spotz#topic summit feedback -WoO mission20:12
diablo_rojoWorks for me :)20:13
spotzI wish we had gone through these sooner as there's actually potential talks here. Such as You don't have to be a developer to contribute20:13
diablo_rojoCest la vie20:13
spotzMaybe if there's an extra lightning talk space hanging about we could get that in20:14
diablo_rojoOh yeah, maybe.20:14
spotzAmbassadors & User groups idea: focus on outreach to women and about diversity - I think falls under UC or Deiversity WG.. so that's kinda me on either side of it20:14
spotzBut again that could have been at least a lightning talk:(20:15
diablo_rojoI still think that we could dissolve woo in favor of the diversity wg..but that's maybe a little radical for some folks.20:15
ell_o_punk_logHave to admit it made me cringe when I fist read it. but I have no real reason why...20:15
diablo_rojoWe are basically working towards the same goal.20:16
spotzdiablo_rojo: It's funny last time we had the WG, WoO was extrememly active and just ran with anything the WG had to do. Now I've got more active people in the WG then in WoO which is kinda why I always feel a bit guilty about our numbers and activity20:16
diablo_rojoI think it should just be one group so that we aren't dividing numbers.20:16
diablo_rojoBut that's me :)20:16
diablo_rojoIf we combined them I would get involved with the diversity wg20:17
ell_o_punk_logI think it is a good idea but some people might hesitate at first. Might be true with any change20:17
spotzI know there are some folks like fungi who do the WG but would never do anything WoO as he feels like he'd be in our safe space20:17
spotzIt'd be less work for me to have one group to lead but I'm ok with what the groups decide20:18
spotzI think if the lunch gets changed to a diversity lunch that might sway things though20:18
diablo_rojoRight, and I think thats the issue with a lot of WoO things- doesn't matter how much we try to communicate that men are welcome and that we need advocates, it still deters people when its all branded for WOO20:18
spotzI haven't heard back on the progress of that neing converted pending the sponsor but in truth haven't followed up on it with erindisney as I had a few other things I was chasing down20:19
spotzOn the plus side, I'll be nominating a few active people from both groups for AUC status, though I think most I'll be nominating already have it20:20
diablo_rojoI dunno.20:21
diablo_rojoI think it would be better to unite them than to stay divided.20:22
diablo_rojoJust my 2c20:22
spotzI'll follow up and see if there's any word on the lunch. On the one hand we've had one of the most active long standing women's groups and I hate to lose that, but on the other we've always tried to be more and that would help eliminate the I didn't want to intrude part20:23
spotzAo I'm good with proposing it to the group, and I think if the lunch changes over (which folks were in favor of) I think that might help20:23
spotz#action spotz follow up on status of lunch and whether it'll be WoO in Berlin or Diversity20:24
diablo_rojoSounds like a good plan to me20:24
spotzI mean even the takeaways we're going over right now are more diversity then woo20:25
spotzSo diversity as a topic in keynote - This came out a few different places. I think the jest is to have a small portion of the keynote at least mention talk about it as few people show up to the sessions but they're all in favor of it20:26
spotzWe already do a good job of having a diverse set of folks on stage20:26
diablo_rojoI can bring that up internally as they are starting to plan those now20:28
spotzCool, I know aprice and maybe lsell were there during the panel Q&A when I think it came up as well20:28
spotzI almost want to say it showed up a third time during community feedback but can't swear20:29
apriceo/20:29
apriceyes, we are actually having a keynote kickoff meeting this week and one of the items on the list is a diversity piece20:30
spotzhehe hey aprice, we're going over the WoO mission statement update feedback from the lunch20:30
apriceit's something we definitely want to explore20:30
spotztada:)20:30
spotzYou by anychance no the status of the WOO lunch possibly being diversity instead?20:30
spotzgrr I can't type.... know not no20:30
apriceI am not sure - I think that can definitely be on the table20:31
apriceI dont think that there is a sponsor yet so it gives us more flexibility to rebrand easily20:31
spotzI thought erindisney said it had a sponsor already even around the time of vancouver20:31
spotzSo she needed to go back to them and ask20:32
apriceshe would know better than me - I just pinged her and Kendall Waters on our team so we can all be on the same page20:32
apriceI may just not have known :)20:33
spotzOk cool, or they might have dropped in the meantime. It was a super early committment20:33
spotzSo the last thing on the etherpad is a recruiting page. I don't think the wiki page is up to date. We've tried twitter and I think superuser in the past20:34
apriceok - there is a sponsor for the WOO networking lunch - Intel20:34
spotzooh interesting:) I wonder if they're gonna take speed mentoring again to then20:34
spotzSo Intel might be willing as they're big into diversity. We'll need to see what happens though20:35
apricekendall W said no speed mentoring sponsor yet20:35
spotzAnd I think maybe our best bet for recruiting will be after we decide whether to combine or not20:36
spotzOk but we can run speed mentoring without a sponsor if need be. I already figure the lunch and learn is gonna be breakfast as we don't have enough lunchs20:36
spotzOr bring your own breakfast anyways:)20:37
spotzSo any more discussion on the mission statement?20:38
spotzFor reference this is the ether I've been reading from20:38
spotz#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Woo_van_mission20:38
spotzgives folks a few minutes to see if there's anything else there they want to discuss20:39
spotzOk so last thing is20:42
spotz#topic open discussion20:42
diablo_rojoI think we should have the convo about combining and if its a no, then move forward with mission statement discussions20:42
spotzIf anyone has anything20:42
diablo_rojonothing from me20:43
spotzWell the things under new initiatives were really all diversity ones so I don't think it'll be an issue but I think if the lunch switches over it's a good time to bring it up20:43
diablo_rojoI feel like we could start publicising the idea on the ML before the summit- unless other think its too soo20:44
diablo_rojosoon20:44
spotzNo and we need to put more meetings on the list. I also think we might know way sooner then summit if the lunch is switching20:45
diablo_rojoagreed20:45
spotzHopefully stars will align cause it's suck to have a WoO lunch and no WoO:)20:46
diablo_rojohaha indeed20:46
spotzHence either way I'd like it to be coordiniated20:47
spotzPutting up the next 4 meetings if anyone wants to lead:)20:47
spotzLooks like we'll hit labor day and then PTG, gonna skip those but if someone not at PTG wants to lead we can add it back20:48
diablo_rojoSounds good to me20:49
ell_o_punk_log I'll be out of town as well :( sorry20:49
spotzNM it's the week after PTG20:49
spotzOk meetings scheduled up until 10/15 Cause calendars are hard20:50
spotzAnyone have anything else?20:50
diablo_rojoThanks spotz :)20:50
diablo_rojoNope20:50
spotzell_o_punk_log or aprice?20:51
spotz#endmeeting20:51
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spotz10 minutes back:)20:51
apricenothing from me :)20:52
apricethanks!20:52
diablo_rojoThanks spotz !20:52
ell_o_punk_logNothing from me, thanks spotz20:52
spotzThanks for coming!20:52
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rockyganyone here?21:07
ell_o_punk_logHi rocky21:08
rockygoops.  off by an hour.  Sorry folks!21:08
rockygHey!21:08
ell_o_punk_loghahah its okay was a short meeting21:08
rockygHow have you been?  I've been registered but today it didn't log me in, so I lost *all* the channels I usually am logged into21:09
spotzHey rockyg21:19
spotzrockyg: one of my clients wasn't on the nickserv so when I logged in it only put me on those so double check your client21:20
rockygthanks21:31
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