Tuesday, 2014-09-16

boris-42flaper87|afk around?00:22
vkmcboris-42, he probably is sleeping :p00:23
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: CLI support for queue existence and metadata operations  https://review.openstack.org/12079702:14
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: CLI support for message CRUD operations  https://review.openstack.org/12096602:30
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flaper87boris-42: I am now06:18
flaper87but I guess you're sleeping now06:19
notmynameflaper87: good luck int he tc meeting tomorrow06:20
flaper87notmyname: thanks man, we'll see what happens.06:21
flaper87there shouldn't be any other things to discuss06:21
flaper87I mean, in theory it should be a vote only session06:21
notmynamewhat's the vote going to be?06:22
notmynameie the result?06:22
flaper87notmyname: hard to say right now. There are some members in the TC that haven't raised any concern nor shared any opinion so, I'm not sure whether they will abstain or vote.06:25
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/zaqar: Not permitted to delete pools which are used by flavor  https://review.openstack.org/11770609:25
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openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/zaqar-specs: Add the specs dir for Kilo  https://review.openstack.org/12180811:07
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prashanthr_Gooood morning :)12:32
cpallaresprashanthr_: o/12:38
prashanthr_good morning cpallares :)12:42
prashanthr_how are you doing ??12:42
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cpallaresprashanthr_: Doing well and yourself? :)13:00
prashanthr_cpallares: good as well.13:01
openstackgerritPrashanth Raghu proposed a change to openstack/zaqar: Add support for redis-sentinel  https://review.openstack.org/12147413:12
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prashanthr_flaper87|afk: I have added your comments to the patch. thanks for the review.13:13
prashanthr_:)13:13
prashanthr_currently working on the succeeded_ids feature. Will also send it for review shortly.13:14
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openstackgerritKurt Griffiths proposed a change to openstack/zaqar: WIP: Add additional stats to zaqar-bench  https://review.openstack.org/12183313:29
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vkmchelooo13:49
alcabreraheya vkmc. o/13:49
vkmchi alcabrera \o13:50
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vkmcalcabrera, given that you are an English native speaker... could you give me some advice on writing an opening for a formal letter?15:07
vkmcalcabrera, 'To whom it may concern' sounds like we live in the 19th century15:08
alcabrerahmmmm15:09
vkmcwe don't know who we are writting to15:09
alcabreratbh, I've been opening most of my formal letters lately with "Hello"15:09
vkmcis for the Python Software Foundation15:09
alcabreraI might even open that particular letter with15:10
alcabrera"Python Software Foundation,\n\n<content>"15:10
vkmccool15:10
vkmc:)15:10
alcabrera:)15:10
vkmcthanks alcabrera15:10
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alcabreranp, vkmc!15:10
malinidid you guys have to write formal letter compositions in school?15:11
malinithey made us write the whole thing with To From and all the accessories :D15:11
vkmchahaha yeah, I had to do that on English classes15:11
vkmcI didn't know if I was updated though15:11
maliniI was & am still confused if To goes first or From :D15:12
vkmcyeah, it's simply not something I do everyday15:12
malinitht whole thing is obsolete now15:12
malinitht is my justification for not knowing :-P15:13
vkmc+1 to that15:14
srirammalini: +1 haha15:16
openstackgerritVictoria Martínez de la Cruz proposed a change to openstack/zaqar: Removes claim_id param in v1.0  https://review.openstack.org/12086715:17
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flaper87o/15:32
flaper87what's up peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeople ?15:32
flaper87are you all having a great day?15:32
mpanettaasynchyness15:32
flaper87if not, I've something for ya' https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-zaqarclient,n,z15:33
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kgriffsflaper87: o/15:33
mpanettaHave any of you guys seen crossbar.io or autobahn.ws?15:33
flaper87kgriffs: o/ :)15:33
* flaper87 has seen crossbar.io15:34
kgriffsso... I just responded to gordon on the round 2 thread15:34
kgriffsand15:34
kgriffsstarted a round 3 thread15:35
kgriffsI will be updating the wiki page as more results come in15:35
* flaper87 reads email15:35
kgriffsrunning a bunch of tests and graphing if only each is 5 minutes still takes like 2.5 hours15:36
flaper87kgriffs: is that a new email?15:36
kgriffsI knew that, which is why I started with low test duration for the piolot15:36
kgriffsflaper87: new results are on a new email15:36
kgriffs(thread)15:36
flaper87ok15:36
flaper87sorry, just got here15:36
* flaper87 was afk15:36
mpanettakgriffs: *wave*15:37
kgriffso hai!15:37
kgriffslong time no see!15:37
mpanettaYes!15:37
flaper87kgriffs: aaahhh you meant joe gordon15:37
flaper87I thought you were talking about gsim15:37
flaper87:D15:37
flaper87kgriffs: +215:37
kgriffsoops, sorry15:37
kgriffsshould have said15:38
* kgriffs is running on 3 hours of sleep15:38
* kgriffs made a mistake last night while running the benchmarks and had to redo them. 15:38
* kgriffs sad panda15:38
flaper87kgriffs: :( damn, sorry to hear that15:38
mpanettaEep :(15:38
kgriffsyeah, so if anything i say sounds really stup (more than normal) that's my excuse today15:38
kgriffss/stup/stupid15:39
flaper87kgriffs: like that ^15:39
flaper87?15:39
flaper87:P15:39
kgriffsyeah15:39
kgriffs:p15:39
flaper87kgriffs: btw, I created a wiki page for perfomance and then noticed you had done something similar already15:40
flaper87feel free to discard mine15:40
flaper87I just dumped your emails into a wiki page15:40
kgriffsI moved that over to it's own page15:40
kgriffshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/Performance15:40
kgriffss/it's/its15:41
flaper87kgriffs: +215:41
* kgriffs hates english sometimes15:41
kgriffsso, stdev is not quite where I would like it but it looks like there are only a few outliers that are causing trouble. Could be wrong in my interpretation, but that is my first impression.15:42
kgriffsalso, I realized too late that I would not be able to push the load much higher than I did in these tests since I ran out of CPUs on the load generator15:43
kgriffsbut, I decided to go ahead since I think the tests in this round are still helpful15:43
kgriffs</two-cents>15:43
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Start adding support for v1.1  https://review.openstack.org/12008915:44
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flaper87merges merges merges merges merges15:45
flaper87kgriffs: +2 I agree with those tests being helpful15:46
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Send more than 1 message in messages_get_many  https://review.openstack.org/12015715:48
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/zaqar-specs: Add the specs dir for Kilo  https://review.openstack.org/12180815:50
flaper87kgriffs: did you read my message re falcon?15:51
kgriffsmmm15:55
kgriffsmissed it15:55
kgriffsemail? IRC?15:55
kgriffsflaper87: ?15:56
flaper87kgriffs: IRC, lemme send that again15:57
flaper87kgriffs: Would it make sense to support parsing `?ids=5c693a40&ids=5c693a47&ids=5c693a46` in falcon? It currently just parses `ids=my-id,my-id2,my-id3`15:58
flaper87kgriffs: I'd like to avoid things like: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120966/4/zaqarclient/queues/v1/core.py,cm15:59
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kgriffsoh, yes, actually that is in the works for 0.215:59
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flaper87kgriffs: sweeeeeeeeet, glad to hear that. ETA ?16:00
flaper87:D16:00
kgriffshttps://github.com/racker/falcon/pull/307/files16:01
kgriffsI supposed it could be backported to the 0.1.x series if need be16:02
kgriffsflaper87: can you help me review that patch, btw?16:02
kgriffsas for ETA16:02
flaper87kgriffs: sure thing16:02
kgriffsI want to get 0.2 rc1 out in 1-2 weeks16:02
kgriffsbut, you know16:02
flaper87kgriffs: btw, feel free to ask for reviews on falcon any time16:02
kgriffsI've been busy benchmarking all the things lately16:03
flaper87I'm happy to help moving it forward16:03
kgriffsthat would be great!16:03
kgriffswith Mailman 3 considering it, we should keep Falcon well-maintained.16:03
flaper87kgriffs: mailman 3, really ?16:04
kgriffsyep16:04
kgriffsread the initial comment16:04
kgriffshttps://github.com/racker/falcon/pull/30716:04
flaper87sweet, that's great news16:04
kgriffsalso, i know a few performance-sensitive stackforge project are considering or have decided to use falcon. I've been careful to not bias them and to be honest about the situation, but those projects are more "ecosystem"16:05
kgriffsso, they are less worried about applying for incubation in the near future16:06
kgriffsbut I digress...16:06
flaper87that's a very long and interesting comment16:07
flaper87ok, I'll review that patch too16:07
kgriffsthanks!16:08
kgriffsi am going to head into the office. bbl16:08
kgriffso/16:08
flaper87kk, ttyl16:08
kgriffs(p.s. - for the record, I don't go out selling Falcon, people just ask about it once in a while, unprompted)16:09
kgriffsttfn16:09
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-zaqarclient: CLI support for queue existence and metadata operations  https://review.openstack.org/12079716:25
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flaper87FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD16:34
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Cleanup technical debt  https://review.openstack.org/12165616:34
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Rename `shard` to `pool`  https://review.openstack.org/12149416:35
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Use queue_creation to send queue's metadata  https://review.openstack.org/12156416:35
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add support for `pop` implemented in v1.1  https://review.openstack.org/12015516:35
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Respect queue's lazy creation  https://review.openstack.org/12156516:35
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Always pass a project_id  https://review.openstack.org/12159616:35
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add support for flavor to the client library  https://review.openstack.org/12153416:35
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add support for bulk message delete in v1  https://review.openstack.org/12015816:35
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Fix functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/12156316:35
flaper87malini: vkmc comments addressed ^16:35
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* vkmc hangs tight16:38
vkmcflood of commits!16:38
vkmcthanks flaper8716:38
flaper87vkmc: :)16:44
flaper87now, revieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeews16:44
flaper87:D16:44
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/zaqar-specs: Add the specs dir for Kilo  https://review.openstack.org/12180817:53
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vkmc:)18:26
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kgriffsFWIW, setup 2 results are up on the pubsub page19:04
kgriffssame everything except 2 web heads instead of one19:04
kgriffshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/Performance/PubSub/Redis19:04
kgriffsand I started this19:05
kgriffshttps://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-performance-testing19:05
kgriffs(in case I get hit by a bus)19:05
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flaper87kgriffs: please don't19:25
flaper87we need you19:25
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* kgriffs tries to keep that in mind19:30
kgriffswrite-heavy workload is up for 2x webheads and 2x redis procs19:30
kgriffshttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/Performance/PubSub/Redis#Configuration_319:30
kgriffsit made a significant improvement in latency, throughput, stdev19:30
kgriffsI suspect we could drive this configuration higher if we had another load generator box19:30
kgriffs(and zaqar-benchmark could be extended to work in master-slave mode)19:31
kgriffs(across multiple boxes)19:31
flaper87is it ok if I ninja-approve some of the zaqarclient patches ?19:39
flaper87(after 1 +2)19:40
kgriffswhich ones?19:40
kgriffsactually, I should go over and look19:40
flaper87kgriffs: that would be great19:40
vkmcyup me too, sorry I couldn't help more with the reviews today :(19:40
flaper87kgriffs: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-zaqarclient,n,z19:40
flaper87no preassure, I just want to make sure we have enough time to catch aweful bugs before we tag the release19:40
vkmcsure thing19:41
kgriffslooks like this is the root of a dep chain19:42
kgriffshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/120158/319:42
kgriffsI will start with it19:42
flaper87kgriffs: yup, that's the root19:45
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kgriffshttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/120158/3/zaqarclient/queues/v1/api.py19:50
kgriffsL14819:50
kgriffsflaper87: I don't think the path needs a trailing slash19:50
flaper87kgriffs: mmh, you're right. the other entries don't have it19:51
flaper87I'll fix that19:51
kgriffsi think falcon will strip it19:51
kgriffsbut it's technically not according to the API spec19:51
flaper87right19:52
kgriffsso, you could fix it in a followup patch19:52
flaper87ah even better19:52
flaper87I've a cleanups patch that I'll use for that19:52
kgriffskewl19:53
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Cleanup technical debt  https://review.openstack.org/12165619:54
flaper87kgriffs: ^19:54
flaper87TC meeting in 419:57
flaper87#openstack-meeting19:57
vkmcgo go go19:57
vkmclast meeting19:58
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add support for bulk message delete in v1  https://review.openstack.org/12015820:07
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earnThisone of the more positive TC meetings ive been around for20:39
earnThiswhich isnt many but, still20:39
vkmclol +1 earnThis20:40
cpallaresflaper87, vkmc: When will we know?20:42
* cpallares can't live with suspense 20:43
flaper87cpallares: tomorrow20:43
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vkmctomorrow yeah20:46
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kgriffsso it isn't a done deal?20:46
maliniwhat happened?20:47
malinihad to pick up my daughter20:47
kgriffsguess enough TC members are missing that we are still waiting for votes20:47
malini:(20:49
flaper87vote is happening here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118592/20:55
flaper87FYI20:55
alcabrerajenkins +1 - thanks jenkins. <320:56
alcabrerathis is quite the split20:56
flaper87erm, we'll stay incubated 6 more months20:57
flaper87sorry about that guys20:57
alcabreradang. :/20:58
flaper87wait, there may still be hope20:58
flaper87LOL20:58
flaper87this is like a novel20:58
malini:(20:58
vkmchow hope?20:58
vkmcoh20:59
vkmcyeah20:59
flaper87vkmc: ;)20:59
malini1 vote left?20:59
flaper87malini: 1 vote and 1 guy hesitating on his -120:59
flaper87if we get a +1 and 1 vote change, we're in20:59
alcabreraclose20:59
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vkmcwell, heading off for a while21:07
vkmccrossing my fingers for the team21:08
vkmcbbl21:08
kgriffso/21:08
vkmc\o21:08
flwang1the TC meeting is today?21:09
flaper87flwang1: it already happened21:17
flaper87flwang1: vote is happening here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118592/21:17
flwangyep, I saw that.21:19
flwangseems the status is not good :(21:19
flwangany more TC member?21:19
flaper87flwang: 1 left and 1 hesitating on his -121:20
flaper87there's still a little bit of hope21:21
flaper87we'll see what happens21:21
flwangflaper87: ok21:24
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