| vkmc | wpf, around? :) | 00:35 |
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| wpf | vkmc: yes | 00:51 |
| vkmc | wpf, hey! if you have a moment later and you can take a look to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129988/, I'd really appreciate that | 00:52 |
| wpf | vkmc: sure | 00:53 |
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| wpf | vkmc: hey, sorry for that I still have the questions that , currently, with you PS, the user can post "{'ttl': 30, 'body': 'Post one!'}" , right? | 00:56 |
| vkmc | wpf, yeah :) | 00:56 |
| wpf | but with API, he can't I thought | 00:56 |
| wpf | so I think it's inconsistent | 00:56 |
| vkmc | it depends on the version | 00:56 |
| vkmc | for v1, he can | 00:57 |
| vkmc | for v1.1, he has to wrap it with a 'messages' key | 00:57 |
| vkmc | but as we discussed with flaper87 on Friday, we abstract the client from that | 00:57 |
| wpf | I remember that for v1, he had to provide the [{xxxx}] which is a list | 00:57 |
| wpf | maybe I should check it again | 00:57 |
| vkmc | oh no, you are right | 00:58 |
| vkmc | before my changes though, we took the convention that if a dictionary is received, then its wrapped in a list and then posted | 00:59 |
| vkmc | otherwise its directly posted | 00:59 |
| wpf | yes, but for the testcases, the provided body is still the [] list , so I am not sure whether you should change it or not which as I said it will cause the inconsistent between client and api | 01:01 |
| wpf | I will prefer that we only change the implementation but not the interface , | 01:02 |
| vkmc | hm yeah, I agree about that | 01:03 |
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| wpf | so before you or something convince me , I will insist that it should be same with the API call which only accept [] , -:) | 01:13 |
| vkmc | :) cool | 01:14 |
| wpf | typo : something -- > someone | 01:15 |
| vkmc | I have to try it with v1.1 in the API | 01:15 |
| vkmc | but IIRC it doesn't expect a list | 01:15 |
| vkmc | which complicates things a little more :p | 01:15 |
| wpf | yes , for 1.1 it expects something like {messages: []} | 01:51 |
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| wpf | anyone had the QR code of the zaqar wechat group? is it public ? -:) | 03:58 |
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| jeffrey4l | I never heard that. What the id for the zaqar group? | 05:41 |
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| wpf | jeffrey4l: the name is zaqar, but I did not find a way to search the group in the app, -:) | 06:24 |
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| jeffrey4l | wpf, i tried just now. u r right. The wechat don't support search the group. | 06:26 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: hello, if you have time please can we discuss a bit regarding bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/zaqar/+bug/1373464 | 06:37 |
| jeffrey4l | exploreshaifali, yep. | 06:38 |
| jeffrey4l | what's it? | 06:38 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: Thanks! so that bug states to remove function call at https://github.com/openstack/zaqar/blob/master/zaqar/queues/storage/pooling.py#L406 | 06:39 |
| jeffrey4l | My comment has been killed by flaper87 | 06:39 |
| jeffrey4l | yep | 06:39 |
| exploreshaifali | and without that call we want config object | 06:39 |
| exploreshaifali | so how should I approach for it? | 06:40 |
| exploreshaifali | I mean why it is needed to remove that call? | 06:41 |
| jeffrey4l | IMHO, here is the story. Before implement the flavor function, the config modified in the running time is required. So this is why the dynamic_conf method exists. | 06:41 |
| jeffrey4l | IMHO, here is the story. To implement the flavor function, the config modified in the running time is required. So this is why the dynamic_conf method exists. | 06:41 |
| jeffrey4l | exploreshaifali, i think it is ugly and confused. And we must create another config object(this is not a good idea) to pass into the drivers. | 06:43 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: okay so we want a new config instance rather than modified, this is the reason of not using dynamic_conf | 06:46 |
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| jeffrey4l | exploreshaifali, I don't think so. I'd like to use the same config instance all the same. | 06:49 |
| exploreshaifali | we don't want that fuction call because "we want another config object to pass into drivers"? | 06:51 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: ^ | 06:51 |
| jeffrey4l | check this https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/zaqar/tree/zaqar/queues/storage/mongodb/driver.py#n73 | 06:53 |
| jeffrey4l | When using flavor function, we should create different driver object(mongodriver, redistdriver) in the running time. | 06:54 |
| jeffrey4l | But the driver is using a static conf, conf.MONGO_GROUP | 06:55 |
| jeffrey4l | So we should modify the conf val in the running time. | 06:55 |
| jeffrey4l | Just modify the value is not enough. Because it will affect other driver's config. So we need copy a new config instance and modify the driver config part. | 06:58 |
| jeffrey4l | exploreshaifali, This is the reason why the `dynamic_conf` exist. clearly? | 06:58 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: yes | 06:59 |
| jeffrey4l | check the dynamic_conf https://github.com/openstack/zaqar/blob/master/zaqar/queues/storage/utils.py#L28 | 06:59 |
| jeffrey4l | u can find the code to 1) copy a new config instance, 2) modify the drivers part based on the flavor | 07:00 |
| jeffrey4l | But I have no any good idea about how to fix this gracefully. | 07:01 |
| jeffrey4l | I think the right direction is use the same one config instance all the same. But I still have no idea how should it work. | 07:02 |
| jeffrey4l | Maybe we can refer to cinder multi backend https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Cinder-multi-backend . | 07:03 |
| jeffrey4l | It use different group for different volume driver. | 07:04 |
| jeffrey4l | But this is a little different with zaqar. | 07:04 |
| jeffrey4l | Cinder | 07:04 |
| jeffrey4l | cinder's config is initialed in the config file before start. But zaqar's config is changed ( when using flavor) at the running time. | 07:05 |
| jeffrey4l | exploreshaifali, ^ | 07:05 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: yes, am looking at cinder multi backend | 07:06 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: here https://github.com/openstack/zaqar/blob/master/zaqar/queues/storage/utils.py#L41 what storage_type holds? | 07:12 |
| exploreshaifali | basically uri states details of database, right? | 07:12 |
| jeffrey4l | yes | 07:12 |
| jeffrey4l | the uri is like "mongo://localhost/" | 07:13 |
| jeffrey4l | exploreshaifali, ^ | 07:13 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: ok and storage_type? | 07:13 |
| jeffrey4l | storage_type will be "mongo" in the above case. | 07:13 |
| exploreshaifali | ok | 07:14 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: and how we are grabing/defining/initializing drivers for mongo from https://github.com/openstack/zaqar/blob/master/zaqar/queues/storage/utils.py#L58 | 07:17 |
| jeffrey4l | exploreshaifali, excuse me? what's mean by that ? | 07:18 |
| exploreshaifali | making utils.dict_to_conf({'storage': storage_type}) will give list of mongo configs, right? | 07:18 |
| exploreshaifali | but at line 58 we only need drivers opts | 07:20 |
| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: I am asking that, at L58 we only want drivers details, right? | 07:20 |
| jeffrey4l | yep | 07:21 |
| exploreshaifali | so at line 60 we are asking to get drivers details | 07:21 |
| exploreshaifali | by calling utils.dict_to_conf | 07:22 |
| jeffrey4l | no. | 07:22 |
| jeffrey4l | L58-61 is initial drivers opt in storage group. See the https://github.com/openstack/zaqar/blob/master/etc/zaqar.conf.sample#L146 | 07:23 |
| exploreshaifali | utils.dict_to_conf will return list of config options? | 07:23 |
| jeffrey4l | yep | 07:23 |
| jeffrey4l | U can set some break point there, and check what's in it in detail. | 07:24 |
| exploreshaifali | ok | 07:24 |
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| exploreshaifali | jeffrey4l: so in that bug we don't want dynamic_conf and want another new conf instance? | 07:28 |
| jeffrey4l | base on the bug's description, it want to remove dynamic_conf stuff. | 07:29 |
| jeffrey4l | don't create new conf instance is my point. | 07:30 |
| exploreshaifali | okay | 07:30 |
| exploreshaifali | just modify same instance? | 07:30 |
| exploreshaifali | is needed | 07:31 |
| jeffrey4l | maybe, we can create different groups for different flavor. | 07:31 |
| jeffrey4l | just like the cinder multi backend | 07:31 |
| exploreshaifali | right make sense | 07:32 |
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| vkmc | flaper87, hello there :) | 11:46 |
| vkmc | morning all! | 11:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/130845 | 12:21 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed a change to openstack/zaqar: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/131126 | 12:22 |
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| flaper87 | gooooooooooooooooooooooood morning | 13:27 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: sorry, I was busy in a very important meeting: https://twitter.com/flaper87/status/526726117701726208 | 13:27 |
| flaper87 | :P | 13:27 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: how are you doing? | 13:28 |
| flaper87 | how was your weekend? | 13:28 |
| flaper87 | btw, when are you heading to Paris? | 13:28 |
| vkmc | flaper87, I saw thaaaaaat, looks so fun | 13:28 |
| vkmc | my weekend was good! could recover from scipycon, ready for the summit | 13:29 |
| vkmc | I'm arriving on Friday | 13:29 |
| vkmc | and you? how was your weekend? | 13:30 |
| flaper87 | Weekend was great, I mean, I had to do winder cleanup but well... | 13:32 |
| vkmc | cool! | 13:33 |
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| vkmc | flaper87, when you have a moment... two things | 13:59 |
| vkmc | lemme know about the Symantec use case for persistent connection transport | 13:59 |
| vkmc | and take a look to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129988/ | 13:59 |
| vkmc | I want to get the benchmarks merged before the summit | 14:00 |
| vkmc | pleaaaase http://weknowmemes.com/generator/uploads/generated/g1333946573716294511.jpg | 14:00 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: mhhh, I've an email about that. I remember it was specific to implementing a lower-level API that would mach use cases similar to Kafka's | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | please, lets try not to mention Kafka, I don't want to create confusion | 14:01 |
| flaper87 | but basically, it was meant to remove the burden of HTTP (yet to be proved to be a burden) and have a connection always on | 14:02 |
| vkmc | sure | 14:04 |
| vkmc | won't say the k word | 14:04 |
| vkmc | kgriffs :p | 14:04 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: couple of nits | 14:05 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: lemme know what you think\ | 14:06 |
| vkmc | shoot | 14:06 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: on the review | 14:06 |
| vkmc | doh | 14:06 |
| vkmc | thanks | 14:06 |
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| vkmc | flaper87, another question related to that fix... yesterday we chatted with wpf that the API expects a list and its a bit inconsistent to receive a dict or a list in this case | 14:17 |
| vkmc | that doesn't apply for v1.1 | 14:17 |
| flaper87 | FWIW, it does not expect a list | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | I mean, the *client* | 14:18 |
| vkmc | yeah the client | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | you can call, client.queue.post(message, message, message) | 14:18 |
| vkmc | but the API does | 14:18 |
| vkmc | API v1 | 14:18 |
| vkmc | yeah | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | right, the idea is to make the client API easier to consume than our API | 14:18 |
| flaper87 | the service API needs to follow some standards to be consistent | 14:19 |
| vkmc | cool | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | (hence the change from list to a {messages:...} object) | 14:19 |
| vkmc | we chatted about this last week, but since wpf comment seemed fair I wanted to bring it up :) | 14:19 |
| flaper87 | sure thing, please, always do :) | 14:20 |
| vkmc | thanks Fla :) | 14:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victoria MartÃnez de la Cruz proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Adds encapsulation control to the client https://review.openstack.org/129988 | 14:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Victoria MartÃnez de la Cruz proposed a change to openstack/python-zaqarclient: Adds encapsulation control to the client https://review.openstack.org/129988 | 14:27 |
| vkmc | flaper87, ^ :) | 14:28 |
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| flaper87 | vkmc: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-zaqar-summit-persistent-transports <- IT'S EMPTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY | 14:46 |
| flaper87 | holy crap, it's 16:00 already | 14:46 |
| vkmc | yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah I'm on it | 14:47 |
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| vkmc | flaper87, are we having the meeting today? | 15:03 |
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| flaper87 | vkmc: yup | 15:18 |
| flaper87 | it's in like 45min, right? | 15:18 |
| flaper87 | yeap | 15:18 |
| vkmc | last week was at 15UTC but we moved it to the other slot | 15:21 |
| vkmc | today should be at 20UTC | 15:22 |
| vkmc | sorry, 21UTC | 15:22 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: oh, ok. Sounds good! | 15:35 |
| vkmc | flaper87, I'll update that in the wiki | 15:38 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: thanks :) | 15:39 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: lets ask kurt if he has pressing topics to discuss | 15:39 |
| flaper87 | I don't have anything prior to the summit | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | o/ | 15:39 |
| flaper87 | we'll definitely have way more things to talk after the summit | 15:39 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: goooooooooooooooooooood morning | 15:39 |
| kgriffs | yeah, I don't have anything I was planning to bring up in particular | 15:40 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: whasuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup | 15:40 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: btw, I ended up installing wechat | 15:40 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^6 | 15:40 |
| vkmc | flaper87, me too | 15:41 |
| vkmc | wpf was asking about the wechat group | 15:41 |
| vkmc | but idk how to create the group | 15:42 |
| vkmc | it exceeds my social capabilities :p | 15:42 |
| cpallares | flaper87: Weechat? | 15:43 |
| cpallares | flaper87: What? | 15:43 |
| kgriffs | vkmc: I invited you | 15:44 |
| kgriffs | cpallares: friend me on wechat - my username is kgriffs | 15:44 |
| vkmc | kgriffs, I haven't received it | 15:44 |
| kgriffs | vkmc: I just barely added you | 15:44 |
| kgriffs | let me send a message to the group, maybe that will do something | 15:44 |
| vkmc | k | 15:45 |
| kgriffs | you made it! | 15:45 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: just 1 e (android app) | 15:47 |
| cpallares | There so many apps these days... | 15:48 |
| vkmc | cpallares, I blame software developers | 15:50 |
| vkmc | hate those guys | 15:50 |
| cpallares | nobody likes those guys | 15:50 |
| kgriffs | for the record, wechat is way better than whatsapp | 15:50 |
| vkmc | no no, they are the worst | 15:50 |
| kgriffs | mostly because wechat has dancing rabbits | 15:51 |
| kgriffs | cpallares: invited you to the group | 15:51 |
| vkmc | no dancing rabbits no deal | 15:52 |
| * flaper87 wants dancing penguins (a.k.a Happy Feed) | 15:52 | |
| * cpallares sends kgriffs another sassy bunny | 15:52 | |
| flaper87 | feet* | 15:52 |
| * cpallares downloads crazy BANANANA | 15:53 | |
| vkmc | flaper87, your bunny is on drugs | 15:53 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: someone has to do the hard work :P | 15:54 |
| flaper87 | PLEASE WORK ON YOUR ETHERPADS! | 15:54 |
| flaper87 | EVERYONE | 15:54 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: ^^^^^^^ | 15:54 |
| * vkmc run away before flaper87 pings her | 15:54 | |
| flaper87 | vkmc: >.> | 15:56 |
| flaper87 | you stay right there | 15:57 |
| kgriffs | I'm pretty sure stickers would make IRC waaaaay more productive | 15:58 |
| cpallares | I agree. | 16:00 |
| cpallares | I like the super saiyan egg. | 16:01 |
| cpallares | How do you add an avatar? Mine doesn't have one :C | 16:04 |
| cpallares | kgriffs, vkmc: ^^^ | 16:04 |
| kgriffs | cpallares: | 16:06 |
| kgriffs | on the bottom there is a nav bar | 16:06 |
| kgriffs | touch "me" | 16:06 |
| kgriffs | then touch on your name at the top | 16:07 |
| cpallares | kgriffs: Ah right, kept trying the image and it would just appear bigger. | 16:27 |
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| exploreshaifali | hi vkmc around? | 17:10 |
| vkmc | hi exploreshaifali! | 17:14 |
| exploreshaifali | vkmc, please can you elaborate a bit what is need to be done for bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/zaqar/+bug/1369525 | 17:14 |
| vkmc | sure | 17:15 |
| exploreshaifali | vkmc, there is just a single statement in the bug description "require doc string going foward" | 17:20 |
| exploreshaifali | not mentioned for which file/what is needed | 17:20 |
| vkmc | exploreshaifali, that used to be a blueprint | 17:22 |
| vkmc | I remember that some docstrings needed to be improved | 17:23 |
| vkmc | its not a file in particular | 17:23 |
| vkmc | ah well, there are some docstrings missing as well... | 17:23 |
| exploreshaifali | vkmc, all right so should I need to look at all doc strings/functions/methods and find if any missing element is there in doc string | 17:24 |
| exploreshaifali | or if whole doc string is missing and fix as per needed | 17:26 |
| exploreshaifali | vkmc, ^ | 17:36 |
| vkmc | exploreshaifali, exactly yes | 17:39 |
| vkmc | brb | 17:39 |
| exploreshaifali | vkmc, okay :) | 17:40 |
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| vkmc | kgriffs, technical question... can http persistent connections via http 1.1 keepalives be enabled in wsgi transport as is? | 19:26 |
| kgriffs | yes | 19:26 |
| kgriffs | keep-alive is actually transparent to WSGI apps | 19:27 |
| kgriffs | whether it is enabled or not, WSGI behaves the same | 19:27 |
| vkmc | cool | 19:27 |
| kgriffs | now, HTTP 2.0 is going to be a different matter... :p | 19:27 |
| vkmc | yeah :) major releases are painful | 19:27 |
| vkmc | so.. in that case | 19:28 |
| vkmc | is the persistent connection provided by websockets better, in any sense? | 19:28 |
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| vkmc | hm it would be really cool to enable persistent connections just for certain cases | 19:45 |
| vkmc | maybe a pool flavor with a good amount of traffic | 19:46 |
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| kgriffs | vkmc: re websockets the benefit would be twofold | 19:56 |
| kgriffs | first, you could use a protocol that is more efficient (less verbose) than HTTP | 19:56 |
| kgriffs | second, you could push new messages as they arrive (vs. polling) | 19:56 |
| kgriffs | practically speaking, keepalive does cover most people's needs (regardless of what they actually *think* they need based on some cool demo they saw at a node.js meetup) | 19:57 |
| kgriffs | not saying websocket won't be faster, it can be | 19:58 |
| kgriffs | just that it isn't always as needful as some people think, but that's a tough thing to convince people of. people just love the idea of "push" and stuff | 19:58 |
| kgriffs | aaaanyway, we've covered this ground before...I digress | 19:59 |
| kgriffs | so it isn't so much that the connection is persistent | 19:59 |
| kgriffs | it is that you can push instead of poll | 19:59 |
| kgriffs | and then a less impactiful benefit is that you can use a lighter / binary protocol | 20:00 |
| kgriffs | (impactful) | 20:00 |
| kgriffs | vkmc: ^^^ | 20:00 |
| kgriffs | now, push is fun | 20:00 |
| kgriffs | because we would have to notify all webheads whenever a message arrives for something that a client may be listening for | 20:01 |
| vkmc | kgriffs, yeah... so, websockets its a more adequate solution for push semantics | 20:04 |
| vkmc | the fact that you can do something with a technology doesn't mean its good at it | 20:04 |
| kgriffs | I think that is the biggest win it provides | 20:04 |
| kgriffs | (push) | 20:04 |
| vkmc | cool | 20:05 |
| kgriffs | we might consider only supporting that initially | 20:05 |
| kgriffs | not sure, something to discuss | 20:05 |
| vkmc | sorry if I make trivial questions, I'm making my first discoveries in persistent transport stuff :) | 20:05 |
| vkmc | cool | 20:05 |
| kgriffs | vkmc: not trivial at all | 20:06 |
| kgriffs | it is important to sort this out in advance | 20:06 |
| vkmc | yeah | 20:06 |
| vkmc | if I'll be leading that session I better get more familiarized with all this | 20:07 |
| vkmc | heh, and it all started with 'hey Fla, I want to add another transport, how does that sound?' :p | 20:07 |
| kgriffs | lol | 20:07 |
| kgriffs | watch out what you suggest | 20:07 |
| vkmc | lol | 20:08 |
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| flaper87 | kgriffs: vkmc malini|afk so, I guess there's no need for a meeting today | 21:07 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: flwang ^ | 21:07 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: flwang why are there 2 of you? | 21:07 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:07 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: I'm good :) I think we can chat on wechat, :D | 21:08 |
| flwang1 | i'm kidding | 21:08 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: kk | 21:10 |
| flaper87 | kgriffs: vkmc anything I can help with ? | 21:12 |
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| cpallares | which channel is the meeting? flaper87 | 21:13 |
| flwang1 | cpallares: openstack-meeting-3 | 21:13 |
| cpallares | thanks flwang1 | 21:13 |
| vkmc | sorry I'm late | 21:14 |
| vkmc | no meeting? | 21:14 |
| cpallares | Mmm... Doesn't look like it | 21:14 |
| vkmc | flaper87, ^ | 21:14 |
| cpallares | kgriffs: ^ | 21:14 |
| vkmc | cpallares, ^ | 21:15 |
| cpallares | vkmc: ^ | 21:15 |
| kgriffs | flaper87: ^ | 21:15 |
| flaper87 | nah, no meeting | 21:15 |
| flaper87 | oh my god, chilax | 21:15 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:15 |
| vkmc | noooooooooooooo | 21:15 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: is there something you'd like to discuss? | 21:15 |
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| flaper87 | I mean, if there's something to discuss, we'll totally have it | 21:16 |
| vkmc | flaper87, nothing that requires a formal meeting | 21:16 |
| flaper87 | I'm kinda keeping things to discuss at the summit since we'll be there (at least most of us, sorry flwang1 :( ) | 21:16 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: shoot | 21:16 |
| flaper87 | I'm here | 21:16 |
| vkmc | the 'no' was for the chilax | 21:16 |
| flaper87 | LOL | 21:16 |
| flaper87 | I'm not sure if anyone besides you and me know what that means | 21:16 |
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| flaper87 | :P | 21:17 |
| vkmc | cool, take a look to the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-zaqar-summit-persistent-transports | 21:17 |
| flwang | flaper87: why you say sorry for me ? ;) | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | flwang: I actually said it to flwang1 | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | but for you too | 21:17 |
| vkmc | I added a few items to the agenda, basically that is how I imagined the session | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | because we'll discuss things at the summit and you'll be missed | 21:17 |
| flwang | I will be there if you can treat me a drink :) | 21:17 |
| * flaper87 clicks | 21:17 | |
| vkmc | +1 flwang | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | flwang: wait, what ? | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | flwang: will you be there ? | 21:17 |
| flaper87 | flwang: no kidding ? | 21:18 |
| flwang | you mean Paris? | 21:18 |
| flaper87 | flwang: yes | 21:18 |
| flwang | I THINK SO | 21:18 |
| flaper87 | oh my freaking fucking god | 21:18 |
| flaper87 | for realz ? | 21:18 |
| flaper87 | THAT IS SO COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | 21:18 |
| flaper87 | Some hope is better than nothing | 21:18 |
| flwang | if my boss don't cancel my travel like IBM did :D | 21:18 |
| flaper87 | and don't worry, kgriffs will pay for drinks | 21:19 |
| kgriffs | waaaaait a minute... | 21:19 |
| flaper87 | ok ok ok | 21:19 |
| flaper87 | and food too | 21:19 |
| kgriffs | that's better. | 21:19 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: I'd probably discuss the draft before the open discussion | 21:19 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: also, I'd really love to come out of the session with a plan | 21:20 |
| flaper87 | some action items | 21:20 |
| flaper87 | etc | 21:20 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: so, make sure you account for that as well | 21:20 |
| flaper87 | flwang: btw, small advice, if you don't want your trip to be cancelled, just BOOOOOOOK IT | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | no refund | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | same for the hotel | 21:21 |
| flwang | flaper87: LOL | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | just boooooook everything before someone changes his mind | 21:21 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:21 |
| flwang | it doesn't work, man | 21:22 |
| flwang | for my last travel, I have to cancel the air ticket and hotel, though it's charged by IBM :( | 21:22 |
| flwang | but that's not the case this time, I"m sure :) | 21:23 |
| flwang | BTW, see http://www.joinfu.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/OpenStack-Non-library-Project-Dependency-Graph.png | 21:23 |
| vkmc | boo ibm | 21:23 |
| flwang | seems somebody have already defined the relationship between heat and zaqar | 21:24 |
| vkmc | flaper87, the action items should be defined on the design session, right? | 21:24 |
| flwang | I would say it's a good sign | 21:24 |
| vkmc | flwang, \o/ it is! | 21:24 |
| flwang | and a motivation for us to accelerate the integration | 21:24 |
| flaper87 | flwang: it was me | 21:26 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: correct | 21:26 |
| * flaper87 can't wait to see Fast & Furious 7 | 21:27 | |
| flaper87 | yeah yeah, I like that movie | 21:27 |
| flaper87 | SO WHAT? | 21:27 |
| vkmc | :x | 21:27 |
| flwang | flaper87: ah, ok :) | 21:27 |
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| cpallares | flaper87: There's a 7th one coming out? o_O | 21:30 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: yup, trailer is coming out on November 1st | 21:30 |
| vkmc | cpallares, 6 movies with the exact same script wasn't enough | 21:30 |
| cpallares | LOL | 21:31 |
| cpallares | I haven't seen 2-6 | 21:31 |
| cpallares | Heck, I didn't even know there were 3-6 | 21:31 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: Cars, girl, CARS! | 21:31 |
| flaper87 | That's what changes and the only thing that matters | 21:31 |
| flaper87 | WEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL | 21:31 |
| vkmc | flaper87, exactly yeah, that's the winning formula: cars, girls, cars! | 21:31 |
| flaper87 | There's something else but I'll STFU | 21:31 |
| flaper87 | for my own safe | 21:31 |
| cpallares | vkmc: Sometimes it's cars, girls, robots | 21:32 |
| vkmc | cpallares, oh thats sexy | 21:32 |
| cpallares | ...and the horrible directing by Micheal Bay | 21:32 |
| * flaper87 knows nothing about directors | 21:32 | |
| flaper87 | I mean, most of it is just an action movie with some Sci&Fi and that other thing that is pure reality | 21:33 |
| cpallares | flaper87: This is all you need to know about Micheal Bay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5KQQWlIgGc | 21:33 |
| flaper87 | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | 21:34 |
| vkmc | lol | 21:35 |
| vkmc | The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies is coming up this December | 21:36 |
| vkmc | even the name is epic | 21:36 |
| cpallares | vkmc: I'm excited for that one :D | 21:37 |
| vkmc | me too | 21:37 |
| cpallares | vkmc: Do you know if they're making two movies? Or is it just ending with the one movie? | 21:39 |
| * flaper87 is soooo excited for that one | 21:39 | |
| flaper87 | cpallares: AFAIK, it's 2 | 21:39 |
| vkmc | 2! | 21:39 |
| cpallares | vkmc, flaper87: Ahhh double the fun to take double our money | 21:39 |
| cpallares | It's been too long since the last one came out. | 21:40 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: 1 year | 21:40 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:40 |
| flaper87 | almost | 21:40 |
| flaper87 | like november something | 21:40 |
| * flaper87 saw the last one in iMax | 21:40 | |
| flaper87 | *THAT* was an experience | 21:41 |
| cpallares | flaper87: Nice | 21:41 |
| flaper87 | btw, everyone. Europe is getting colder and Paris is normally quite cold so be prepared | 21:42 |
| flaper87 | https://twitter.com/TEDTalks/status/526850814896521217 <- which one? | 21:44 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:44 |
| flaper87 | ok ok, I'll STFU and focus on this blog post which I'm not sure of | 21:45 |
| cpallares | flaper87: BUT before you do, how cold are we talking here? | 21:45 |
| * cpallares has been living in Texas for too long | 21:46 | |
| cpallares | vkmc: http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzA3LzIxLzZlL3NjYW1zLjgzNzUxLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTEyMDB4OTYwMD4/e0d6942e/c23/scams.jpg | 21:46 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: http://www.accuweather.com/en/fr/paris/623/daily-weather-forecast/623?day=6 | 21:47 |
| vkmc | cpallares, that's useful | 21:47 |
| vkmc | I know a few more | 21:48 |
| flaper87 | I think it'll be colder than that but mmh | 21:48 |
| flaper87 | hopefully not | 21:48 |
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| cpallares | do you scam tourists by night, vkmc? :P | 21:49 |
| vkmc | 14 degrees? darn, thats cold | 21:49 |
| vkmc | cpallares, I do, muahahaha | 21:49 |
| cpallares | haha | 21:50 |
| vkmc | nah, every time I go to Buenos Aires I learn a new one | 21:50 |
| vkmc | folks there are super creative | 21:50 |
| vkmc | :p | 21:50 |
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| cpallares | vkmc: Ah, good to know if I ever go there :P | 21:51 |
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| vkmc | yup | 21:52 |
| vkmc | I could write a tourists guide | 21:52 |
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| flwang1 | any guide for Paris? | 21:53 |
| flwang1 | like what's the best gift for a Mom with 1 year kid :) | 21:54 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: a trip there ? | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: mmh, jokes apart, no idea about what the best gift is | 21:57 |
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| vkmc | macarrons | 21:57 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: those ain't get home | 21:57 |
| vkmc | hmm | 21:57 |
| cpallares | Wine? | 21:58 |
| cpallares | Chocolate? | 21:58 |
| cpallares | It depends what she likes. | 21:58 |
| flwang1 | cpallares: yep, Chocolate maybe a good idea | 21:58 |
| flwang1 | cpallares: thanks | 21:59 |
| vkmc | flaper87, btw, you suggested me to do something with cpallares regarding the design session | 22:01 |
| vkmc | flaper87, when is the cross api spec session/pod happening? | 22:02 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: yup, if there's enough time that'd be cool | 22:02 |
| flaper87 | vkmc: erm, no ieda | 22:02 |
| flaper87 | I think we'll have to organize those sessions at runtime | 22:02 |
| flaper87 | through wechat | 22:02 |
| flaper87 | there's no good way to have a schedule for those considering all the other sessions and meetings | 22:02 |
| flaper87 | :/ | 22:02 |
| cpallares | flaper87: The pod sessions are the sessions we have in a small table that is specially for Zaqar, correct? | 22:04 |
| vkmc | yeah | 22:04 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: are we going to use wechat instead of whatsapp? :) | 22:04 |
| cpallares | flwang1: Yes, we created a group. Get the app :) | 22:05 |
| flwang1 | cpallares: yep, I know. I created it and just wanna confirm with the fan of whatsapp :) | 22:06 |
| cpallares | haha | 22:06 |
| vkmc | lol | 22:06 |
| cpallares | flwang: You're openstacker? | 22:06 |
| flwang1 | cpallares: yep | 22:06 |
| flwang1 | did you get some fun from the app? | 22:07 |
| * flaper87 is not a fan of whatsapp | 22:07 | |
| flwang1 | you can search others around you | 22:07 |
| * flaper87 just happened to have it installed | 22:07 | |
| * flwang1 just don't want to install another IM :D | 22:07 | |
| flwang1 | anyhow, seems we have found the app we could use | 22:08 |
| vkmc | and it has stickers | 22:08 |
| vkmc | *really* important feature | 22:09 |
| cpallares | vkmc: We should replace it for IRC | 22:09 |
| vkmc | I think so yeah | 22:10 |
| cpallares | :P | 22:10 |
| vkmc | we should vote | 22:10 |
| cpallares | Right now. | 22:10 |
| cpallares | +2 | 22:10 |
| flwang | come on, we should suggest all of IRC channels of openstack community move to wechat :) | 22:10 |
| flwang | and it also support voice, video, etc | 22:11 |
| vkmc | and you make sure the other person is always there :p | 22:12 |
| vkmc | haha | 22:12 |
| flwang | just shared a new photo of a young developer :) | 22:13 |
| flwang | on wechat group | 22:13 |
| flaper87 | Oh please, don't you even think about replacing IRC | 22:13 |
| flaper87 | no no no no | 22:14 |
| cpallares | *insert sad panda sticker here* | 22:15 |
| flaper87 | http://i3.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/398/2013_6beb.jpeg | 22:16 |
| flaper87 | cpallares: ^ | 22:16 |
| cpallares | It is just not the same, flaper87. | 22:17 |
| cpallares | :P | 22:18 |
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