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| flwang1 | vkmc: ping | 17:09 |
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| vkmc | flwang1, pong | 17:37 |
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| flwang1 | vkmc: did you join the weekly meeting? | 18:25 |
| vkmc | flwang1, freenode was down, it was cancelled | 18:25 |
| flwang1 | vkmc: ah, ok, not bad :) | 18:26 |
| vkmc | :/ | 18:26 |
| vkmc | apparently they were getting some ddos attacks | 18:26 |
| vkmc | so it was nonsense for three hours more or less | 18:26 |
| sriram | yep, I saw that on the freenode's twitter | 18:27 |
| sriram | I couldnt get in today morning either. | 18:27 |
| mpanetta | Yeah it has been broken pretty badly | 18:27 |
| vkmc | sriram, mpanetta o/ | 18:29 |
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| mpanetta | vkmc: Hiya :) | 18:29 |
| sriram | hah vkmc: o/ to you too! | 18:29 |
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| flwang1 | vkmc: thanks | 18:33 |
| flwang1 | vkmc: can you revisit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248982/ ? | 18:34 |
| vkmc | flwang1, for nothing :( the only thing I could do was insanely test all the webclients and host/port combination | 18:34 |
| vkmc | anyhow | 18:34 |
| vkmc | I added in the wiki that maybe we can gather later today, at 21UTC | 18:34 |
| vkmc | sure | 18:34 |
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| flwang1 | vkmc: ok, cool | 18:40 |
| flwang1 | thanks | 18:40 |
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| flwang | ryansb: are you happy with this way https://review.openstack.org/#/c/248502/4/zaqarclient/queues/v1/flavor.py to fix the object initialize issue? for pool and flavor | 20:38 |
| ryansb | yeah, that works for me | 20:38 |
| flwang | ryansb: if so, i can upload a new patch set to MD's patch, and let' get it in, because it's blocking the pool list patch for v1 | 20:39 |
| flwang | ryansb: awesome :) | 20:39 |
| ryansb | sure sure | 20:39 |
| flwang | ryansb: pls keep going to review the others and I will let you know when there is new patch set :D | 20:39 |
| flwang | cheers | 20:39 |
| ryansb | sure | 20:39 |
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| Eva-i | ryansb: flwang: vkmc: mdnadeem: isn't it a meeting time? | 21:02 |
| flwang | Eva-i: let's cancel it and we can discuss in zaqar channel | 21:04 |
| flwang | vkmc: ryansb: how do you think? | 21:05 |
| Eva-i | flwang: I think we decided to make meeting in zaqar channel | 21:05 |
| ryansb | I don't think it's a meeting time - we canceled the meeting this morning due to DDoS on freenode | 21:05 |
| Eva-i | "We will gather on #openstack-zaqar channel at 21UTC." | 21:05 |
| Eva-i | Okay | 21:05 |
| flwang | Eva-i: i thought, but seems it's a little bit late for ryansb and vkmc | 21:05 |
| flwang | Eva-i: anything you want to talk? | 21:06 |
| flwang | Eva-i: i'm here :) | 21:06 |
| ryansb | oh, well then | 21:06 |
| ryansb | I'm here :) | 21:06 |
| ryansb | it's only 4pm for me, so let's get going | 21:07 |
| flwang | ryansb: cool | 21:07 |
| Eva-i | flwang: ryansb: how do you think, where the instruction for zaqar-bench should be located? Are non-contributors use this tool? | 21:07 |
| Eva-i | *using | 21:07 |
| ryansb | I don't really think so, I think the user base for zaqar-bench is developers looking for performance regressions | 21:08 |
| Eva-i | I mean, should it be located in contributor guide or user guide | 21:08 |
| flwang | Eva-i: are you talking about docs for bench? | 21:08 |
| flwang | or just the bench code? | 21:08 |
| Eva-i | ryansb: okay | 21:09 |
| Eva-i | flwang: docs for bench | 21:09 |
| flwang | Eva-i: we could have a section for it in developer docs | 21:10 |
| flwang | not user guide | 21:10 |
| flwang | Eva-i: anything we should discuss about the bench docs? | 21:11 |
| Eva-i | flwang: ryansb: alright, I agree with you | 21:11 |
| Eva-i | flwang: well, I'm going to move zaqar-bench instruction from README.rst to contributor docs | 21:11 |
| Eva-i | flwang: README.rst will just point to the instruction | 21:12 |
| flwang | Eva-i: works for me | 21:12 |
| flwang | Ok, so let's go through the topics today. currently in my mind are followings: | 21:13 |
| flwang | 1. zaqar client patches review | 21:13 |
| flwang | 2. docs | 21:14 |
| flwang | 3. zaqar UI | 21:14 |
| flwang | 4. more queues attributes | 21:14 |
| Eva-i | Ok | 21:15 |
| flwang | 5. puppet zaqar | 21:15 |
| flwang | ok, so firstly | 21:15 |
| flwang | we still need heavily review for our client patches | 21:15 |
| flwang | client/cli is the only interface for now for zaqar | 21:16 |
| flwang | that means anybody want to give zaqar a try | 21:16 |
| flwang | they will install zaqar with devstack | 21:16 |
| flwang | and then start to create a queue, post messages, get messages | 21:16 |
| flwang | if there is any step failed in this process | 21:16 |
| flwang | they may won't open a bug, they will just throw zaqar away and say 'holly shxt' | 21:17 |
| Eva-i | flwang: you're right | 21:18 |
| flwang | what i wan to say is, the zaqar client is a very critical interface for us, we should always make sure it works | 21:18 |
| flwang | so | 21:18 |
| flwang | let's review the patch, fix any bug, and getting it work and more and more stable | 21:19 |
| flwang | we have functional test for zaqar client, but unfortunately, it doesn't work now, which i'm working on | 21:19 |
| ryansb | what's stopping it from working, atm? | 21:20 |
| flwang | ryansb: therve: if you guys can give a hand for this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250125/ it would be awesome | 21:20 |
| flwang | not sure why, but now zaqar client can't get the openstack credentials | 21:20 |
| flwang | based on monty taylor's suggestion i'm using osc config, but seems it doesn't work or i still missed something | 21:21 |
| flwang | if we can get it work, it could be great gate for us to make sure zaqar client and zaqar server work together | 21:22 |
| flwang | Eva-i: it would be nice if you can start review the zaqar client code | 21:22 |
| Eva-i | flwang: yes, I'm sorry I still haven't started. Other things in Zaqar just were more interesting for me.... But okay, I'll stop doing other things and focus on the client. | 21:24 |
| flwang | Eva-i: no no, it's ok, i'm happy you're putting effort on zaqar, especially the docs | 21:28 |
| ryansb | docs are about as important to first-timers as the client, tbh | 21:28 |
| flwang | ryansb: totally agree | 21:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add `flavor` support for v2 https://review.openstack.org/245414 | 21:29 |
| flwang | ryansb: i have got some complains for our docs since we don't have published user guide for now | 21:30 |
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| ryansb | cool deal | 21:30 |
| flwang | ryansb: Eva-i: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/247189/ | 21:33 |
| flwang | we have talked with docs team to publish zaqar's config ref | 21:33 |
| flwang | and user guide https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/zaqar-user-guide | 21:34 |
| Eva-i | flwang do you have a spec for user guide written? | 21:34 |
| flwang | besides, we still need a api -ref like this http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-share-v2.html | 21:34 |
| flwang | Eva-i: not yet, you can pick if you want :) | 21:34 |
| Eva-i | yes, we need all three things | 21:34 |
| Eva-i | flwang: alright, I'll write a spec for user guide | 21:35 |
| flwang | Eva-i: cooooooool | 21:36 |
| Eva-i | flwang: but for now should I focus on the client reviews? | 21:36 |
| Eva-i | flwang: what would you like? | 21:36 |
| flwang | Eva-i: the docs :) | 21:36 |
| Eva-i | flwang: okay, nice =) | 21:36 |
| flwang | and you can start to review the client with slow steps :) | 21:37 |
| flwang | just balance it ;) | 21:37 |
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| Eva-i | flwang: oh, okay | 21:37 |
| flwang | 3. zaqar UI | 21:38 |
| flwang | not sure if anybody has the UI experience in our team | 21:38 |
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| flwang | but we should start to make it happen anyhow | 21:38 |
| flwang | now we have created the repo | 21:38 |
| Eva-i | I have a small UI experience. | 21:39 |
| flwang | Eva-i: it would be cool | 21:39 |
| flwang | i crated a customzed billing panel for our horizon, so i assume it should be similar | 21:40 |
| Eva-i | flwang: can I take a look at billing panel? | 21:40 |
| flwang | i will submit a start patch this/next week and let's get the queue panel work before M-2 | 21:40 |
| flwang | i mean by the end of m-2 | 21:40 |
| flwang | Eva-i: sorry, now it's not open sourced | 21:41 |
| flwang | but we will publish it | 21:41 |
| Eva-i | flwang: users will be able to work with queues through UI in horizon? | 21:41 |
| flwang | Eva-i: yes, create queue, set queue attributes, etc | 21:41 |
| flwang | just like what you can do on SQS | 21:42 |
| Eva-i | flwang: Oh. Maybe I shouldn't deleted my amazon account in august... | 21:44 |
| Eva-i | *shouldn't have deleted | 21:44 |
| flwang | Eva-i: oh, why do you want to do that? | 21:44 |
| flwang | it won't charge you anything if you just don't use it | 21:44 |
| flwang | for SQS, it starts to bill you when you exceed 1M requests, IIRC | 21:45 |
| Eva-i | flwang: my amazon free tier is expired, would I still able to test SQS for free? | 21:46 |
| ryansb | Eva-i: fwiw, I use AWS for my backups, hosting 4 static sites, and DNS. (my free tier expired) it's only ~4 bucks a month | 21:47 |
| ryansb | so if you only ever play with SQS, your bill should be like...10 cents | 21:48 |
| Eva-i | ryansb: okay | 21:48 |
| ryansb | it's $0.00000050 per SQS Request | 21:49 |
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| ryansb | so 500 nanodollars | 21:50 |
| Haunted | Hi | 21:50 |
| mpanetta | That breaks the bank :P | 21:51 |
| Haunted | Hi? | 21:51 |
| Eva-i | hello | 21:51 |
| Haunted | How was Thanksgiving? | 21:51 |
| Haunted | Hello | 21:53 |
| Haunted | Why is nobody responding? | 21:54 |
| ryansb | hey Haunted, how's it going? | 21:54 |
| Haunted | Good | 21:54 |
| Haunted | How about you? | 21:54 |
| Eva-i | Haunted: there are people in the chat from different countries, many of them don't have this holiday. | 21:55 |
| Haunted | ok | 21:55 |
| Haunted | Is this a meeting of some kind? | 21:56 |
| flwang | Haunted: yep, our normal meeting is rescheduled since the freenode down | 21:56 |
| Haunted | ok | 21:56 |
| flwang | Haunted: anything you would like to discuss? | 21:56 |
| Haunted | When and here is your normal meeting? | 21:57 |
| ryansb | Yeah, but most of the time #openstack-zaqar is jus a hangout for zaqar users/contributors | 21:57 |
| Haunted | When and where is your normal meeting? | 21:57 |
| ryansb | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/#Zaqar_Team_Meeting | 21:57 |
| Haunted | ok | 21:57 |
| Haunted | Thanks | 21:57 |
| ryansb | it's in #openstack-meeting-3, at 2100 UTC or 1500 UTC alternating | 21:57 |
| ryansb | this week would have been a 1500UTC week, but due to rain^Wfreenode DDoS we rescheduled | 21:58 |
| Haunted | ok | 21:58 |
| flwang | ok, anything else for the UI topic? | 21:59 |
| flwang | otherwise, let's move to next one | 21:59 |
| Haunted | ok | 21:59 |
| Haunted | we can move on | 21:59 |
| flwang | 4. more queue attributes | 21:59 |
| flwang | i haven't registered a blueprint for that, will do that today | 21:59 |
| Haunted | Good idea. | 21:59 |
| flwang | basically, the idea is adding more reserved attributes for queue, just like SQS and other queue services didi | 22:00 |
| Haunted | ok | 22:00 |
| flwang | for now, even though we support metadata for queue | 22:00 |
| flwang | but it's not used much | 22:00 |
| flwang | for now, we only support '_flavor' | 22:01 |
| flwang | we should/could support more attributes for queue to get a flexible queue, see http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSSimpleQueueService/latest/APIReference/API_SetQueueAttributes.html | 22:02 |
| Haunted | #openstack-meeting-alt | 22:02 |
| Haunted | sorry | 22:02 |
| ryansb | yeah, definitely do a blueprint | 22:03 |
| ryansb | I'm not sure what we need immediately | 22:03 |
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| flwang | ryansb: it's not a critical feature for sure :) | 22:05 |
| Eva-i | flwang: I don't have an opinion for this | 22:05 |
| Haunted | Me neither | 22:05 |
| flwang | ryansb: another feature i would like to implement is delay queue or dead letter queue | 22:05 |
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| flwang | depends on the resource :) | 22:08 |
| flwang | jasondotstar: any updates for puppet work? | 22:08 |
| ryansb | alright folks, I've got to head out, seeya tomorrow (or later today, depending on your tz's) | 22:09 |
| flwang | ok, anything else you guys would like to talk? | 22:09 |
| flwang | ryansb: see you, thanks | 22:10 |
| Haunted | In the description it says Meetings every Monday @ 21:00 UTC/15:00 UTC | 22:10 |
| Haunted | but you said this isn't your normal meeting channel | 22:10 |
| Haunted | or is this where meetings are normal conducted? | 22:11 |
| Eva-i | ryansb: good bye | 22:11 |
| Haunted | ryansb is this your normal meeting channel? | 22:12 |
| flwang | Haunted: the normal meeting channel is #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:12 |
| flwang | #openstack-meeting-3, at 2100 UTC or 1500 UTC alternating | 22:12 |
| Haunted | on the top of this chat it says Meetings every Monday @ 21:00 UTC/15:00 UTC | 22:12 |
| Haunted | im a bit confused | 22:13 |
| flwang | there was a freenode issue, so we meet at here again | 22:14 |
| flwang | does that make sense? | 22:14 |
| Haunted | so this is where you meet temporarily? | 22:14 |
| Haunted | for a period of time? | 22:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add `pool` support for v2 https://review.openstack.org/245412 | 22:15 |
| flwang | Haunted: hmm... this is the normal channel for Zaqar team | 22:16 |
| flwang | but for weekly formal meeting, we use #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:16 |
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| Haunted | flwang but temporarily your formal meetings will be here? | 22:17 |
| Eva-i | Haunted: no, our formal meeting will not be here. | 22:18 |
| Eva-i | *meetings | 22:18 |
| Haunted | is this a formal meeting right now? | 22:18 |
| flwang | Haunted: for random discussion, we always use this channel | 22:18 |
| flwang | Haunted: you can call it 'formal' or not | 22:19 |
| Haunted | ok | 22:19 |
| flwang | it doesn't really matter, TBH | 22:19 |
| Haunted | where is this meeting normaly done? | 22:19 |
| flwang | Haunted: again, #openstack-meeting-3 | 22:19 |
| flwang | :) | 22:19 |
| Haunted | ok, but on the top of this page it says Meetings every Monday @ 21:00 UTC/15:00 UTC | 22:20 |
| flwang | Eva-i: can you help explain? :) | 22:20 |
| flwang | i'm not a native english speacker :) | 22:20 |
| Eva-i | flwang: I think I'm not able | 22:20 |
| flwang | Haunted: could you let me know what r u looking for? | 22:21 |
| Haunted | if the meetings were not usually done here, why does it say Meetings every Monday @ 21:00 UTC/15:00 UTC | 22:21 |
| flwang | are you going to join our weekly meeting in the future? | 22:21 |
| Haunted | I might | 22:22 |
| Eva-i | flwang: the only explanation I have that Haunted might be mocking us =) | 22:22 |
| flwang | Haunted: if so, just always join this channel | 22:22 |
| Haunted | Im not mocking nobody | 22:22 |
| flwang | Haunted: and you will be notified if there is anything changed | 22:23 |
| flwang | Haunted: let's back to discuss messaging instaed of meeting | 22:23 |
| Haunted | ok, so the meeting that is happening now is always on here? | 22:23 |
| flwang | Haunted: are you going to coding for zaqar or deploy? | 22:23 |
| Haunted | yes | 22:23 |
| Haunted | zaqar | 22:24 |
| flwang | forget the meeting time | 22:24 |
| flwang | we're always here | 22:24 |
| Haunted | are we having a meeting now? | 22:24 |
| flwang | Haunted: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-zaqar-assignment | 22:24 |
| flwang | that's our focus for mitada release | 22:24 |
| Eva-i | flwang: I think meeting is ended, right? | 22:25 |
| flwang | Eva-i: oh, yep | 22:25 |
| flwang | sorry | 22:25 |
| Haunted | ok | 22:25 |
| flwang | Haunted: let me know if you're interested in any part | 22:25 |
| Haunted | ok | 22:25 |
| flwang | so that we can work out a task for you | 22:25 |
| Haunted | ok | 22:26 |
| flwang | Haunted: glad to see you're interested in zaqar | 22:26 |
| Haunted | ia this OpenStack Queing notification Service | 22:26 |
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| flwang | Haunted: why you ask? | 22:27 |
| Haunted | because on the top of the channel thats what it sys. | 22:27 |
| flwang | Haunted: then yep | 22:27 |
| Haunted | ok | 22:28 |
| Haunted | Actually, no I don't want the job. | 22:32 |
| Haunted | flwang i don't want the job | 22:33 |
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| jasondotstar | flwang: hey... just got your msg... nothing worthy to report just yet. I'm getting there. | 23:05 |
| flwang | jasondotstar: ah, ok, did you see the mail i sent to kgriffs ? | 23:08 |
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| jasondotstar | yeah | 23:08 |
| jasondotstar | I saw it earlier today | 23:08 |
| flwang | jasondotstar: nice | 23:08 |
| jasondotstar | hopefully we'll get some info | 23:08 |
| flwang | kgriffs when you see this message, pls check your mailbox :) | 23:08 |
| flwang | jasondotstar: thanks | 23:10 |
| jasondotstar | sure, np | 23:10 |
| kgriffs | Sorry for the delay; I just replied. Hopefully Balaji can assist. | 23:13 |
| flwang | kgriffs: awesome, thanks a lot | 23:14 |
| kgriffs | sure thing. And BTW, I'm still working on those questions; I was on holiday all last week, but will see if I can put together some thoughts this week | 23:15 |
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| flwang | kgriffs: thank you soooo much | 23:21 |
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