Thursday, 2015-12-03

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flwangflaper87: ryansb: vkmc: can you hep review this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/250125/ ?00:30
openstackgerritFei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Fix queue create failure when metadata is {}  https://review.openstack.org/24786700:35
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mdnadeemEva-i: ping03:20
flwangmdnadeem: anything i can help?03:24
Eva-imdnadeem: hello03:25
Eva-iflwang: congratulations with fixing functional test! =)03:25
flwangEva-i: YEAH!03:25
flwangi can't make it without your help03:26
flwangEva-i: thank you for your greeeat catch ;)03:26
mdnadeemEva-i: While reviewing your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251023/, It fail because of Authorization Failed: Cannot authenticate without an auth_url03:26
Eva-iflwang: no, it's not great, but thanks03:26
flwangEva-i: btw, are you working on the user guide spec?03:26
flwangEva-i: our config ref spec has been merged   YEAH!03:27
Eva-iflwang: I wanted to discuss it with you when you will be less busy03:27
flwangEva-i: maybe tomorrow :)03:27
Eva-imdnadeem: ok, let me think03:27
Eva-iflwang: alright03:27
flwangEva-i: or, just talk now, i have 30 mins before i leave, but i may reply slow, sorry03:28
Eva-iflwang: alright, I'll try to make it quick03:29
mdnadeemEva-i: Now, zaqar client uses bydefault  keystone, so only passing project name in config is not enough, so you need to _setup_auth_params, flwang patch may be help you out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/25012503:29
Eva-iflwang: when I asked where should zaqar user guide be hosted, you said in "http://docs.openstack.org/"03:30
Eva-iflwang: but there are many types of user guides for different categories of people03:30
flwangEva-i: yes03:30
Eva-iflwang: for example, there is " http://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/ "03:31
flwangEva-i: since i'm the right guy to answer that questions :)03:31
Eva-iflwang: and this: http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/03:31
Eva-iflwang: so I shouldn't ask you and should ask guys in doc channel?03:32
mdnadeemflwang, Eva-i, vkmc, ryansb  :  I am flying to  my home town tomorrow , So i will not be available 1-2 day, See you guys on monday :)03:35
Eva-imdnadeem: so03:35
flwangEva-i: i would say both03:35
Eva-imdnadeem: I need to rebase my patch?03:35
flwangEva-i: generally, my idea comes from the manila project03:35
flwangit's not in core and it's not a  'tc-approved' project03:35
flwangso where you can see 'shared file systems' related doc, we would like see zaqar is around :)03:36
Eva-iflwang: manila project doesn't have any docs in docs.openstack.org?03:36
flwanghttp://docs.openstack.org/admin-guide-cloud/shared_file_systems.html03:36
flwangfor back to your above question, both user-guide and admin-guide-cloud are the goal we would like to work for03:37
flwangbut03:37
flwangwe don't have much bandwidth03:37
flwangand personally, i think user-guide is a little bit easier03:38
flwangbut admin-guide-cloud is more important03:38
flwangwe have to balance :)03:38
Eva-iflwang: oh, I see. So one type of doc manilla decided to host in docs.openstack.org03:39
Eva-iflwang: the sources are here: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc/admin-guide-cloud/source03:39
flwangEva-i: yes03:39
mdnadeemEva-i: you need to update your patch to set _setup_auth_param, using flwang patch as i mentioned above :)03:40
Eva-iso the spec I need to implement for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+spec/zaqar-user-guide is one that will allow Zaqar user guide to be hosted in http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/ ?03:41
Eva-imdnadeem: okay, I'll do it, thanks =)03:41
mdnadeemEva-i: np :)03:41
flwangEva-i: yep, it should be easier and a good size for Mitaka03:42
flwangEva-i: i don't want to hold you 3 months only for docs, you can do more :)03:43
Eva-iflwang: and docbook user guide will be converted to rst to be hosted in  http://docs.openstack.org/user-guide/ ?03:43
flwangi think so03:43
Eva-iflwang: okay, thanks03:43
flwangyou may need to confirm with #openstack-doc03:44
flwangEva-i: thank you!03:44
Eva-iflwang: also our team have different vision of what should Zaqar docs be in the near future03:44
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flwangEva-i: what's that mean 'different visions'?03:45
flwangwe're a small team, we should focus03:46
Eva-iflwang: one person want some docs to be hosted in one place, another person wants them to be hosted in another03:46
Eva-iflwang: for example ^03:47
Eva-iflwang: I created "Doc places and statuses" section in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-mitaka-docs so we can discuss where they should be.03:47
Eva-iflwang: okay, I have no questions now03:47
Eva-iflwang: and yes, I'll visit guys in #openstack-doc03:48
Eva-iflwang: thanks for today03:48
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flwangEva-i: different opinions is not a problem, we can workout an agreement to avoid wasting your effort03:51
Eva-iflwang: "i don't want to hold you 3 months only for docs, you can do more :)" I agree, docs are a bit boring thing =)03:51
flwanghaha03:51
flwangi have to run03:52
Eva-ibye03:52
flwangEva-i: thank you, ttyl03:52
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/zaqar: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/25062106:26
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openstackgerritRyan Brown proposed openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add cli support for flavor create v1  https://review.openstack.org/24850814:52
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-zaqarclient: Using clouds.yaml to get the credentials  https://review.openstack.org/25012515:03
openstackgerritRyan Brown proposed openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add cli support for flavor create v1  https://review.openstack.org/24850815:05
openstackgerritRyan Brown proposed openstack/python-zaqarclient: Flavor create support for v2  https://review.openstack.org/25024815:08
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-zaqarclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25299915:08
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-zaqarclient: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/25299916:09
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jasondotstarflwang, flaper87: ping16:13
jasondotstardid you guys see the email from Balaji ?16:13
ryansbjasondotstar: was it on the ml/what subject?16:15
jasondotstarwell flwang was following up on an action item to provide me with a sample zaqar conf16:27
jasondotstarryansb: ^16:27
jasondotstarso we had a separate email thread that we sent to Balaji re: the zaqar config a rackspace16:30
jasondotstarthe reply was that they were still running marconi code :-/16:34
jasondotstarryansb: ^^16:34
jasondotstarthat's the gist essentially...16:34
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flwang1vkmc: ryansb: flaper87: anybody working on the dup auth section issue?17:40
ryansbflwang1: I am, yeah17:40
flwang1i'm working on that, but i haven't work out a good solution17:40
ryansbmy first fix was, as you noted, out of line with global reqs17:40
ryansbyeah, same.17:40
flwang1ryansb: yep17:40
flwang1we have to find another way :(17:41
flwang1let's work together17:41
flwang1guys, now it's our first priority17:42
ryansbyeah, so I found that deleting line 62 of zaqar/transport/auth.py "fixes" it17:49
flwang1let me see17:49
ryansbbut I'm not sure how to validate that everything is still configured right17:49
ryansbbecause it does pass the tests, and printing the `conf` seems to have the right bits17:49
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flwang1ryansb: run zaqar and run functional test?17:49
ryansbI haven't run the functionals against that yet, no17:49
flwang1seems it works17:51
flwang1i'm running functional test after removing the line17:51
ryansbk, cool17:52
flwang1hmm...wait17:55
flwang1i added a breakpoint at line 62, but it didn't stopped :(17:55
flwang1i need to double confirm17:55
ryansb? that's odd17:55
ryansbare you running with keystone?17:56
ryansbor standalone17:56
flwang1yep, i'm running with keystone17:57
ryansbhm17:58
ryansbcan you paste your config?17:58
openstackgerritRyan Brown proposed openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add cli support for flavor show v1  https://review.openstack.org/24850917:59
flwang1ryansb: sure, wait a se18:03
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flwang1ryansb: did u get any comments from keystone team about the usage of keystoneclient.auth?18:03
ryansbno18:03
flwang1paste is very slow18:04
flwang1ryansb: ok, i will talk with stevemar18:04
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flwang1nobody care you and me, hah18:27
flwang1ryansb: i have to run to office, ttyl18:27
ryansbk18:27
flwang1thanks18:27
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jasondotstarhey flwang18:58
jasondotstardid you see my msg earlier?18:58
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flwangjasondotstar: no, would you mind repeating ?19:41
ryansbflwang: "11:13:57    jasondotstar | did you guys see the email from Balaji ?"19:42
jasondotstarthere it is :)19:42
flwangjasondotstar: ah, i saw it, but,  i would still want to see their config and adjust it based on the new changes19:43
jasondotstarack.19:43
flwangjasondotstar: i can reply that19:43
jasondotstar+119:43
jasondotstarget him to send it along anyway19:43
flwangjasondotstar: yes19:43
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flwangjasondotstar: thanks for the heads up, i will reply the mail soon19:50
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jasondotstarcool np.19:55
flwangryansb: seems we have to upgrade our code19:57
ryansb:( oh well19:58
* ryansb will start on that19:58
ryansbI see the session docs there19:58
flwangryansb: personally, i don't really want to upgrade to sessions atm20:00
flwangif we have a choice20:00
ryansbyeah, but I'm not sure we have one20:00
ryansbI'd actually prefer to break globalreqs for the milestone20:01
ryansbwhich is evil, but it seems *less* evil20:01
flwangryansb: we can't merge it, IIRC20:03
ryansboh. Well :(20:03
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flwangi mean jenkins won't allow us to do that20:03
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flwang1ryansb: you said we're using a different type for auth_section option, right?20:34
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ryansbno, it's the different keystone libs (keystoneclient for us, keystoneauth1 for the middleware)20:34
flwang1ryansb: and we are using oslo_config's String, seems there is not way to change it, is it?20:34
flwang1ryansb: so the best way to fix it is use keystoneauth1 ?20:35
ryansbit's ksclient that's using the options, we're just using keystoneclient which is doing the registering20:35
ryansbThat may work, I don't know what we depend on in ksclient20:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-zaqarclient: Add cli support for flavor show v1  https://review.openstack.org/24850920:36
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flwang1ryansb: i tried to just comment the line 62 out and it works by manual test20:44
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ryansboh?20:44
flwangryansb: let me throw a patch and see what's the response from gate20:45
ryansbk20:45
flwangwe have functional test gate20:45
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flwangflaper87: http://logs.openstack.org/38/252638/1/check/gate-zaqar-python27/d862004/20:59
flwangit would be nice if you can take a look, since most of the code is written by you :)20:59
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openstackgerritFei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Fix duplicate auth_section issue  https://review.openstack.org/25322021:19
flwangEva-i: around?21:20
flwangvkmc: ?21:20
vkmcflwang, hey!21:24
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flwang1vkmc: can you give this patch a try ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253220/21:27
flwang1it works for me and pass the unit test21:27
flwang1but i would like there is a double confirm21:27
flwang1it's breaking our gate21:27
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ryansbflwang1: I'm bringing up a fresh devstack to test it as well21:32
flwangryansb: awesome, many thanks21:33
flwangryansb: i'm testing it as well21:33
ryansbcool deal21:33
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vkmcsure, I'm on it21:52
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flwangvkmc: ryansb: any feedback? at least it works for me22:23
ryansbit's working for me too22:23
ryansbI'm thinking it's good - I've tried from CLI, integration tests, and unittests22:23
flwangryansb: awesome22:24
ryansb(unittests aren't too likely to actually fail though)22:24
ryansbhas the gate spoken?22:24
flwangryansb: not yet, it's slow22:25
flwangas normal :D22:25
vkmcworking for me too22:26
vkmc:)22:26
flwangvkmc: coooooooooool22:26
ryansbgimme a few more minutes, I'm going to try some curl tests22:26
flwangcould you pls vote the patch? if there is any other issue i need to fix, i may give it a nijia approve in case your guys left22:26
flwangsince today is the deadline of m-122:27
vkmcI'll stay here22:27
ryansbI'll be around22:27
ryansbbut yeah, right up on the deadline22:27
flwangawesome, appreciate it22:28
flwangafter this one merged, we need to get https://review.openstack.org/252154 and https://review.openstack.org/252638 in22:28
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ryansbok, +2'd22:39
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ryansbgate looks happy with it (redis still isn't done though)22:43
flwangryansb: can you paste me the zuul link?22:45
ryansbhttp://zuul.openstack.org/22:45
ryansbthen put "openstack/zaqar,openstack/python-zaqarclient" (without the quotes) in the filter box22:45
flwanggot it22:46
flwangi have seen it22:46
flwangvery good22:46
flwangvkmc: ^22:46
ryansbflwang: or vkmc if you +A https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253220/ now, it'll merge22:50
ryansbthen once it's in we'll just need to recheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252154/22:50
ryansband https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252638/22:50
flwangryansb: i'm going to approve it22:54
ryansbcool22:54
Eva-ihello22:54
flwangEva-i: hi22:56
Eva-iI have some concerns about how this patch was implemented https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245526/22:56
flwangEva-i: listening...22:57
flwangvkmc: we did it at the same time :D22:58
flwangvkmc: can you review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252154/ ?22:58
Eva-imaybe it would be better if this patch was changing default authentification backend only for CLI and not for both CLI and python API22:58
flwangso that we just need recheck after 253220 merged22:59
flwangEva-i: why?22:59
Eva-iflwang: there are two reasons23:11
Eva-i1. Zaqar server by default has noauth authentication and the client now has keystone by default. I think it's a bit strange.23:11
Eva-i2. It breaks compatibility with simple programs that were using no authentication, for example with zaqar-bench or code examples in the internet. Also 3 of 4 examples in "examples" directory in python-zaqarclient repo will need more refactoring (more fat "conf" passed as parameter for client.Client() instantiation) to make them work. They were not working even before this patch, but this patch adds problems.23:11
Eva-iI'm sorry I haven't reviewed this patch before it was merged.23:11
flwangpersonally, i don't think noauth is the direction of Zaqar23:12
flwangZaqar is designed as a messaging service targeting for large(huge) scale, not for small/simple user case23:13
flwangbesides, just like we said in the project description, it's a multi-tenancy messaging service, so i can't imagine how noauth can meet the multi-tenancy23:14
flwangbut i agree, we need to make the server and client be compatible23:14
flwangthat's my 2 cents23:14
flwangbrb, lunch23:15
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Eva-iflwang: maybe Zaqar was designed like that to make new users get involved easily: from small code examples without complicated parameters, without thinking about complicated things. But of course maybe Zaqar just evolves. http://paste.openstack.org/show/b7Ynxf5pSHtlRFrgFLyW/23:23
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ryansbuh what23:29
ryansbtest fail with stack overflow? https://jenkins06.openstack.org/job/gate-zaqar-python34/189/console23:29
Eva-iflwang: I still don't know how Zaqar handles compatibility. I don't know for example should be stable Kilo release be compatible with stable Liberty release. Or maybe I should look at Zaqar major version numbers, but I don't know where these numbers can be found. If I had a products programmed that rely on Zaqar I would be very cautious before updating Zaqar.23:33
Eva-i*had products23:33
vkmcEva-i, the client instantiation has always been like what you call "now" in that paste23:38
vkmcEva-i, compatibility is handled considering versioning, not OpenStack releases23:39
vkmcthose numbers are the versions for the API23:39
Eva-ivkmc: do you mean Zaqar server's API?23:40
vkmcyeah23:41
Eva-ivkmc: I think python-zaqarclient has API too23:42
Eva-ivkmc: not web API, but python code API23:43
Eva-ivkmc: does the client's API it has versioning too?23:43
vkmcEva-i, we are using the same versioning than the client23:44
vkmcsorry, than the server23:44
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Eva-ivkmc: I'm not telling it was not possible to instantiate client.Client() like "now", I'm telling it's not possible to instantiate client like "before".23:53
Eva-ivkmc: so it can work23:53
vkmcEva-i, if the client was being instantiated like that in the bench, then the bench was wrong23:54
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Eva-ivkmc: and "examples" directory in python-zaqarclient repo were wrong too?23:57
Eva-ivkmc: I believe they were working nicely23:57
vkmcEva-i, I'd say so, I remember commenting that some time ago23:57
vkmcwhatever the case, we should move on and focus in those aspects the next time23:58
vkmcmake sure everything keeps compatibility23:58
vkmcand make sure we are clear wrt versioning23:58
ryansbhey folks, it's EOD here, but I'll check back in in ~1hr to see where the gate is at on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/253220/23:59
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