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| neerja | Hi , How do I create subscriptions? Kindly help me out | 03:57 |
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| flwang1 | flaper87: ping | 18:51 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: pong | 18:53 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: is it a good time to have a chat? | 18:53 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: sure, what's up? | 18:54 |
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| flwang1 | flaper87: just want to get your opinion about adding a oslo.messaging implement in zaqar to get notifications into zaqar | 18:55 |
| flaper87 | I had several talks about that during the summit and I think we could start by adding support for oslo.messaging notifications | 18:56 |
| flaper87 | As in, allow for Zaqar to be used *just* as a notification driver | 18:57 |
| flaper87 | instead of RPC etc | 18:57 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: so you mean add support in oslo.messaging tree for zaqar or collecting notifications in zaqar(change happens in zaqar)? | 18:58 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: Adding an oslo.messaging driver plugin in zaqarclient's tree that allows people consuming oslo.messaging to store notifications into Zaqar | 19:01 |
| flwang1 | doesn't need any change in zaqar server? | 19:02 |
| flaper87 | flwang1: no | 19:03 |
| flaper87 | it's a client thing | 19:04 |
| flwang1 | so for this user case, who is the user? operator or the tenant user? | 19:05 |
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| flaper87 | flwang1: depends on what you want to do with it but it's normally the tenant user | 19:21 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: ok, so for this case, if people want to consume oslo.messaging, how to save the credentials of the msg bus? | 19:23 |
| flwang1 | the notification source which zaqar client will talk to | 19:23 |
| flaper87 | a-ha, I see where you're coming from | 19:25 |
| flaper87 | well, it'd be config file options just like for rabbitmq | 19:26 |
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| flwang1 | (07:32:29) flwang1: ok, then how does the zaqarclient "forward" notifications from the source to zaqar queue? | 21:25 |
| flwang1 | (07:32:56) flwang1: IMHO, there should be a long run service/process to do the broker thing, no? | 21:25 |
| flwang1 | flaper87: ^ | 21:25 |
| flaper87 | where's that coming from? | 21:27 |
| flaper87 | Zaqar *is* the broker in this case | 21:27 |
| flaper87 | I don't understand why zaqar needs to forward notifications | 21:27 |
| flaper87 | are we talking about the same use case? | 21:27 |
| flwang | flaper87: it would be nice if you can clarify :) | 21:28 |
| flaper87 | That being said, peers willing to consume the notifications can subscribe to the queues in Zaqar and pull messages from there | 21:28 |
| flwang | flaper87: i'm interested in how zaqarclient talking with the notification source by oslo.messaging | 21:29 |
| flaper87 | flwang: it's not zaqarclient | 21:29 |
| flaper87 | ok, let me start from scratch | 21:29 |
| flaper87 | Nova emits notifications and it uses oslo.messaging for that, right? | 21:29 |
| flwang | yes | 21:29 |
| flaper87 | oslo.messaging has 2 planes. 1 for rpc and the other one for notifications | 21:29 |
| flaper87 | each one of these planes can talk to different backends | 21:30 |
| flaper87 | you might use rabbitmq for the rpc plane and whatever for the notifications one | 21:30 |
| flaper87 | what I'm saying is, if we write a notification driver for oslo.messaging that talks to Zaqar, we can have nova emitting notifications directly into Zaqar | 21:30 |
| flaper87 | Zaqar would take rabbitmq's place in this scenario but *JUST* for the notifications | 21:31 |
| flwang | " if we write a notification driver for oslo.messaging" so when you're talking about 'notification driver', it's just a change for zaqarclint to make it as a driver of oslo.messaging, is it? | 21:33 |
| flwang | not a change for oslo.messaging to support zaqar/zaqarclient, right? | 21:33 |
| flaper87 | flwang: correct | 21:43 |
| flaper87 | Well, it's a plugin for oslo.messaging that happens to live in zaqarclient | 21:43 |
| flwang | flaper87: ah | 21:43 |
| flaper87 | oslo.messaging drivers are pluggable and they use stevedore | 21:43 |
| flwang | flaper87: that's what i'm asking/wondering :) | 21:44 |
| flaper87 | if :D | 21:44 |
| flaper87 | sorry if I confused you | 21:44 |
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| flwang | flaper87: no worries, you know, if i haven't found the answer, i will always poke you :) | 21:54 |
| flaper87 | flwang: I'm happy to help | 21:55 |
| flaper87 | hope that helped | 21:55 |
| flwang | flaper87: btw | 21:55 |
| flwang | any prevision for Newton? | 21:55 |
| flaper87 | flwang: clouds all over the place | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | sorry, had to | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | :D | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | mmhh... you mean, for Zaqar? | 21:56 |
| flwang | i mean, any insight for the future of zaqar? | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | well, I think there's more adoption coming | 21:56 |
| flaper87 | TripleO is now using Zaqar | 21:57 |
| flwang | i'd like to get some comments form you | 21:57 |
| flaper87 | which is awesome | 21:57 |
| flaper87 | :D | 21:57 |
| flaper87 | and there were more discussions about using it for other notifications in OpenStack but that's more unlike to happen soon unless someone works on that fulltime | 21:57 |
| flaper87 | we should do the o.m driver thing we just talked about | 21:57 |
| flaper87 | I think it'll be useful and there have been more requests for it | 21:57 |
| flwang | flaper87: ok, i see. | 21:59 |
| flwang | flaper87: i assume you will be back this release, right? | 21:59 |
| flaper87 | yeah | 22:00 |
| flaper87 | At least on reviews | 22:00 |
| flaper87 | I'll try to do some coding but not many promises there :P | 22:00 |
| flwang | flaper87: cool, got it | 22:00 |
| flaper87 | I might even do the o.m plugin | 22:00 |
| flwang | flaper87: ok, at least, pls give us a spec for the o.m plugin :) | 22:01 |
| flaper87 | flwang: NEVER! | 22:02 |
| flaper87 | I'll implement this tonight and merge it while you'll me asleep | 22:02 |
| flaper87 | MUAHAHHAHA | 22:02 |
| flwang | flaper87: haha, if so, i will be more than happy :) | 22:02 |
| flwang | oh, btw, https://review.openstack.org/310569 a tiny patch you can +2 | 22:03 |
| flaper87 | flwang: done | 22:09 |
| flwang | flaper87: i love you | 22:10 |
| vkmc | :o | 22:11 |
| flwang | vkmc: i miss you :) | 22:11 |
| vkmc | :O | 22:11 |
| vkmc | hahaha | 22:12 |
| vkmc | flwang, hey Fei | 22:12 |
| vkmc | *hug* | 22:12 |
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| flwang | vkmc: :) | 22:13 |
| flwang | flaper87: pls review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/302479/ when you're free | 22:13 |
| flwang | i think you know more than me about that corner | 22:13 |
| * flwang is sad, we still can't meet diversity rule https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310317/ | 22:17 | |
| vkmc | :( | 22:25 |
| vkmc | we need moar ppl | 22:25 |
| * flaper87 turns the ppl-maker machine on | 22:25 | |
| Eva-i | flwang: flaper87: vkmc: hello | 22:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/zaqar: Fix wrong claim error message https://review.openstack.org/310569 | 22:28 |
| vkmc | hey Eva-i! | 22:28 |
| Eva-i | flwang: flwang1: can you please answer to my comment here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288907/ ? | 22:28 |
| flwang | flaper87: oh, your machine works, we just got Eva-i :) | 22:28 |
| flaper87 | flwang: SEEEEEEEE ????? | 22:28 |
| flaper87 | It's been tuned to just produce adults and coders | 22:28 |
| flaper87 | it's not a baby maker | 22:29 |
| flwang | flaper87: we don't need baby maker, you can do it by yourself | 22:29 |
| flwang | Eva-i: sure, i will reply it | 22:30 |
| flaper87 | are you implying I can't produce coders? | 22:30 |
| flaper87 | :P | 22:30 |
| Eva-i | flwang: thanks | 22:31 |
| flwang | flaper87: haha, that's a good point | 22:33 |
| flwang | flaper87: if you can make coders, i will make a manager to manage your coder :D | 22:34 |
| flwang | to make your coder busy :) | 22:34 |
| flwang | and no time to see his/her parents, wahahaha | 22:35 |
| flaper87 | hahahahahhaa... If he/she would come out like me, that might actually be a good thing for me | 22:35 |
| flaper87 | :P | 22:35 |
| flaper87 | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway, I'll defer that job to the machine | 22:35 |
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