Wednesday, 2016-07-20

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flwang1wxy__: ping02:22
wxy__flwang1, here02:24
flwang1wxy__: what's your local test env of zaqar? mongo+ mongo?02:24
wxy__yes02:24
flwang1can you help try post messsages and do a get?02:24
wxy__what's the step02:25
flwang1just post messages and then do a messages lit02:25
flwang1list02:25
wxy__flwang1, everything is ok. Then?02:27
flwang1you see list the new messages you just posted?02:27
flwang1s/see/can02:28
wxy__flwang1, yes, with ?echo=True02:28
wxy__flwang1, or change the client-id02:28
flwang1wxy__: shit i forgot the echo02:28
wxy__flwang1, haha02:29
flwang1wxy__: thanks, seems i need to review same basic code :D02:29
wxy__flwang1, BTW, the tempest test code for subscription confirm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/343999/02:30
flwang1yep, i saw that02:30
flwang1it's on my list02:30
wxy__flwang1, redis is down, because it's only for mongo02:30
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wanghao_flwang: hi, I will be offline few days for vacation. If you need me, plz leave messages. Thanks06:25
wanghao_I will check it if I can get internet service.06:27
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jankiHey, I came across zaqar. I wanted to know about the triggering events for email notification service06:42
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thervejanki, What do you want to know?06:52
jankitherve: Thanks for the reply. I wanted to know when would a mail be trigerred?07:01
jankisay for example when a VM changes its state?07:01
thervejanki, Every time a message is posted to the queue you subscribe to07:01
therveErr... No. Unless you have something that post messages when a VM changes its state :)07:02
jankitherve: Ohh, ohk. Thats what I had in mind.07:03
jankitherve:  I have a code to send a mail in this scenario and wanted to check the duplicacy of functionality07:04
jankitherve: Can this be added to zaqar?07:04
thervejanki, How do you get that event?07:04
jankitherve: well currently, I check the status and when state changes, invoke a script that sends out a mail07:05
thervejanki, Ah so you poll nova API?07:05
jankitherve: Not exaclty, API. the code for this sits along the nova-compute code and poll the DB basically07:06
therveOuch! OK07:06
therveThat doesn't sound like a great maintenance idea07:07
therveIt's possible you could use ceilometer/aodh to do that07:07
therveBut no zaqar can't do that on its own, it can only act as a transport07:07
jankitherve: yes agree. this is just kind of free-time stuff I did. Now looking to improve and add it to other projects07:08
thervejanki, I'm working on a project that somewhat wants to bridge that gap: https://github.com/therve/nabu07:11
therveSo that you get zaqar messages when events like VM state changes happen07:11
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jankitherve: thats cool. it will poll ceilomter for event changes and add the event to zaqar queue?07:15
jankithen you need to subscribe to queues to get mail?07:15
thervejanki, It doesn't poll ceilometer, it gets events pushed from ceilometer07:15
therveBut yeah that's the idea07:15
jankigot it, pushed.07:17
jankitherve: do let me know if I can help you somewhere somehow. I have mailing part code ready07:19
thervejanki, Well the mailing part is in Zaqar already :)07:19
jankitherve: ohh, ya yes. am now getting  clear picture07:20
jankitherve: thanks for your time. It was nice talking to you..07:21
therveNo problem!07:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/zaqar: Ensure queue exists before get/update the claim  https://review.openstack.org/32932008:03
openstackgerritwangxiyuan proposed openstack/zaqar: Adding Negative tests cases to Zaqar v2  https://review.openstack.org/31982508:10
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openstackgerritNeerja Narayan proposed openstack/zaqar: Adding Negative tests cases to Zaqar v2  https://review.openstack.org/31982509:39
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openstackgerritRonald Bradford proposed openstack/zaqar: Cleanup i18n marker functions to match Oslo usage  https://review.openstack.org/34500619:35
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flwangtherve: nabu just did what i was trying to propose21:14
flwangtherve: ping me when you're available and i would like to discuss the nadu idea21:20
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pmathewsIn the FAQ it states that using Kafka as a backend is (was?) being experimented with, though the only code that I'm seeing is symantec's streaming-zaqar-poc driver. Am I looking in the wrong place? What's the current status of Kafka as a backend?21:24
flwangpmathews: yep, you got the right place i think. for now, we don't have a Kafka backend yet21:26
flwangsince the limited resource, may I know your user case?21:27
pmathewsI'm just wanting to use it as a backend. Kafka performs well - it seems like a good fit as a backend if it's available.21:28
pmathewsI looked through a bunch of the old irc logs - there's very little mention of Kafka - is the symantec code all that exists currently?21:29
pmathewsThe use-case we're looking at is MaaS21:30
flwangpmathews: yep, that's currently what you can find on the internet. Zaqar is a small team, so the resource is limited, unless we can see a strong use requirement, we can't put much effort on that. I'm sorry to say :(21:30
flwangpmathews: you mean messaging as a service?21:31
pmathewsYes21:31
flwangthen why the current MongoDB can't fit your requirement?21:31
flwangnow the mongo backend is very stable, so even we add the support of Kafka in O release, i'm not sure if you can use it on your prod :)21:32
pmathewsI'm looking at using messaging as a service - can it meet our requirements? Probably. I just happen to like Kafka.21:33
pmathewsThat said, it looks like we'll have to either use MongoDB or do some development work :)21:34
flwangeither way I will fully support you guys :)21:34
flwangpmathews: may i know what's your biggest concern for now? or you just start to do some pre-research?21:36
flwangpmathews: i can see you have rich experience on messaging stuff, so if you can dedicate some time for this cute project, it would be great21:37
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pmathewsMy concern is simply scalability - something which I know Kafka can do well.21:46
flwangpmathews: do you know zaqar supports pooling?21:55
flwangfor pooling, each storage cluster is recognized as a pool, and you can give it a weight, then you can horizontally scale the backend21:56
flwangpmathews: is that what you want?21:56
pmathewsI wasn't aware. I just started looking at Zaqar. As of now, I'm just setting it up to kick the tires and see how it works. It's good to know it does pooling - I'll try it out and see.21:58
pmathewsIt may be plenty performant as-is, I just saw Kafka and thought that would be great as a backend.21:59
flwangpmathews: will you be in Barcelona? if so, we could have a f2f talk about that. i'm happy to plan it in O release22:01
pmathewsI'm not sure if I will be, though I doubt it.22:02
flwangno worries, then just cruising in this channel :)22:03
flwangi'm always around, and my tz is UTC+12 (NZ), just FYI22:04
pmathewsThanks. I'll make some noise if I run into trouble22:04
flwangplease, because i don't like a quite channel :)22:05
flwangso noise is always welcome at here22:05
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openstackgerritFei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Support `messages` API ref  https://review.openstack.org/34193023:23
openstackgerritFei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Support `messages` API ref  https://review.openstack.org/34193023:29

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