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| silassewell | Has anyone tried swift with python 2.7? | 00:44 |
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| heckj | evening | 04:47 |
| heckj | Anyone online tonight? | 04:47 |
| mtaylor | always | 04:48 |
| heckj | Hey - running into an interesting test error with nova - was hoping for some advice | 04:48 |
| mtaylor | oh - well, I am probably very unhelpful ... | 04:49 |
| mtaylor | but the normal thing I run in to when tests fail for me is that I'm not running the right version of a depend | 04:49 |
| heckj | i'm doing some of the cleanup work in Nova - wanted to make sure I had all the tests running | 04:49 |
| mtaylor | yeah - I was just looking at your merge req | 04:49 |
| heckj | Ah - yeah, ok | 04:49 |
| heckj | I have the error listed at http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2010/08/08/hacking-on-openstacks-nova/ if you can suggest anything | 04:50 |
| heckj | It's an X509 error - "expecting CERTIFICATE" - not sure what it's really getting | 04:50 |
| mtaylor | eek. hey - that's past my knowledge of the codebase... sorry | 04:52 |
| heckj | worth a shot. Any suggestions on who I can chat with that might know that segment of the code a little better? | 04:52 |
| heckj | And since you're looking over the merge - is that the right process for submitting cleanup stuff like this? | 04:53 |
| mtaylor | heckj: yes. totally right process... most of the guys I think are in out for the evening but should be back in the morning | 04:54 |
| mtaylor | eday will likely give you a proper review/merge as soon as he's not slacking off | 04:54 |
| mtaylor | :) | 04:55 |
| heckj | no worries. I'm a bit packed during the day - don't get onto IRC much (if at all), but i'll try and pop in | 04:55 |
| heckj | heh | 04:55 |
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| justinsb | heckj: One possible if the openssl program is not returning data is that there's little or no error checking of spawned processes | 05:20 |
| justinsb | heckj: I have a patch that will hopefully get merged soon that error checks spawned processes | 05:20 |
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| justinsb | heckj: https://code.launchpad.net/~justin-fathomdb/nova/check-subprocess-exit-code | 05:21 |
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| PythonPup | Howdy. I am about equally interested in Nova and Swift. Which is easier to setup? I'll start with that one. | 05:33 |
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| eday | mtaylor: I was on a plane to texas most of the day, so yeah, was slacking off ;) | 05:45 |
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| mtaylor | eday: you're always going to texas | 06:02 |
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| PythonPup | What I don't understand is why anyone would leave Texas. | 06:49 |
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| termie | soren: could you send a test email to nova to see if i get it? | 07:11 |
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| soren | termie: Just did. | 08:56 |
| soren | termie: Well, not a test mail, but an actual one. I hope that's ok :) | 08:56 |
| kim0 | Hi folks .. Trying to play with the nova code .. I'm a little confused with the difference between these 2 installation instructions http://nova.openstack.org/getting.started.html and http://www.joinfu.com/2010/07/developing-nova-on-linux-getting-started/ .. what does each give me | 08:58 |
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| termie | soren: -sigh- still nothing | 09:00 |
| termie | it is impossible to try to read things from this archive | 09:00 |
| soren | termie: Didn't Jesse set you up with forwarding? | 09:04 |
| termie | perhaps he didn't succeed | 09:04 |
| soren | termie: You want me to do it? | 09:04 |
| termie | gmail, at least, usually requires that i validate the forwarding | 09:04 |
| termie | but i never received such a request | 09:04 |
| termie | soren: sure, if you would | 09:04 |
| soren | termie: Will do. Hang on. | 09:05 |
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| soren | kim0: One is about setting it up to run it. The other is about setting up a dev environment. | 09:52 |
| * soren is starving and heads to lunch | 09:52 | |
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| zul | hi has anyone seen this before? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/475443/ | 12:56 |
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| jaypipes | zul: no, haven't seen that oe. | 12:59 |
| jaypipes | s/oe/one | 12:59 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #615341 in nova "xenapi VM destroy fails gracelessly if VM is not present" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615341 | 13:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #615344 in nova "xenapi get_info fails gracelessly if VM is not present" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615344 | 13:01 |
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| jaypipes | ooooh, gundlach, nice catch on the AuthKit. Didn't know about that. :) | 14:02 |
| jaypipes | yay for open source. | 14:02 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: yeah, i didn't either -- but at a higher level, i know that one of wsgi's benefits is that we can reuse bits of people's systems. | 14:02 |
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| jaypipes | gundlach: heck yeah. less code we write the better ;) | 14:03 |
| gundlach | I seem to recall that TurboGears(?) web framework went through some pain to take their coupled system and break it into wsgi layers so the layers could be reused by other projects. | 14:03 |
| gundlach | yep! | 14:03 |
| gundlach | oh, and, tyvm :) | 14:03 |
| jaypipes | :) | 14:03 |
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| eday | gundlach, jaypipes: WIthout having looked at it yet, one concern is non-wsgi apps that need to use it | 14:05 |
| jaypipes | eday: wrapper :) | 14:05 |
| creiht | mtaylor: good morning | 14:05 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: yeah, thanks -- i was kind of stuck for a moment :) | 14:06 |
| gundlach | besides saying "all auth has to happen before the app hits it" | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | eday: btw, nice work on rsapi stuff and wsgi. Going throught your code now, but looks very clean. | 14:06 |
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| creiht | PythonPup: Swift might be a bit simpler, since nova is still under heavy development | 14:08 |
| creiht | jaypipes: another decent wsgi auth lib that might be worth looking at is repoze.who | 14:09 |
| creiht | gundlach: yes TurboGears rebuilt itself on top of the Pylons wsgi framework | 14:09 |
| eday | jaypipes: cool, it's a combo of Todd's and gundlach's code too, but yeah..I'm liking the WSGI style | 14:10 |
| gundlach | creiht: ah, that's right. i stopped working with TG just before 2.0 was final. | 14:10 |
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| eday | jaypipes: nice catch. of course I found myself typing: bzr commit -m """...""" :) | 14:31 |
| jaypipes | eday: :) | 14:32 |
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| Glace | nice xen client is out :0 | 14:35 |
| Glace | anyone tried it yet? | 14:35 |
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| spy | mtaylor: set up that dns for you | 14:45 |
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| mtaylor | spy: excellent. thanks! | 14:57 |
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| creiht | mtaylor: were you pinging me earlier? | 14:58 |
| gundlach | eday: any reason Api() does auth within itself instead of having an Auth() layer? | 14:59 |
| gundlach | did you want to avoid having to specify the stack of layers at runtime for now? | 15:00 |
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| mtaylor | creiht: I was ... I was going to point at something - but I've got a bug I want to fix first | 15:00 |
| creiht | k | 15:01 |
| eday | gundlach: Well, that just happened to be the first layer. We could have a no-op rackspace.API() layer that just calls Auth, or rename API to Auth | 15:02 |
| eday | gundlach: I'm sure that will change in the future, because we may allow some non-auth requests to get info | 15:03 |
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| gundlach | eday: cool. i'd probably keep it separate, but i don't have a strong argument as to why. and yeah, we'll have to have Auth() detect which kinds of requests should be non-auth. unless we have 'no auth needed' be a type of authentication, and then it can be handled by the same code... | 15:05 |
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| eday | gundlach: yeah, I'm all for keeping it separate and naming it correctly. It doesn't do anything else but Auth yet so I just left as is. | 15:06 |
| gundlach | cool :) | 15:07 |
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| n3msis | Hi, I wanted to know why someone would select openstack over other open source cloud middleware like eucalyptus | 17:26 |
| mtaylor | n3msis: well, for one, openstack is actually fully open source, whereas eucalyptus is only open core | 17:35 |
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| mtaylor | n3msis: other than that, I imagine people could make claims as to quality, etc - but those are better claims for folks not working on the project to make :) | 17:35 |
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| creiht | Any NASA folk around that could prod xtoddx into irc? :) | 17:45 |
| vishy | creiht: prodding | 17:48 |
| creiht | vishy: thanks! | 17:49 |
| vishy | he is probably at lunch :( | 17:49 |
| creiht | No rush | 17:49 |
| creiht | I just have some questions about his merge proposal | 17:49 |
| mtaylor | LUNCH? | 17:53 |
| creiht | dendrobates: see pm please :) | 17:58 |
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| creiht | So for auth in general, for NOVA, does it do AWS style signing? | 18:13 |
| creiht | It seems to be the case after quickly glancing at the code, but just wanted to be sure that was correct | 18:14 |
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| jaypipes | gundlach: :( apparently AuthKit is no longer being maintained | 18:48 |
| gundlach | oh snap | 18:48 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: gonna check out creiht's suggestion of repoze.who. | 18:49 |
| gundlach | great. i've heard of the repoze.* helpers as being generally well respected | 18:49 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: http://static.repoze.org/whodocs/ | 18:49 |
| creiht | there is also repoze.what for authorziation (.who is just authentication) | 18:49 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: good to know! | 18:49 |
| jaypipes | creiht: gotcha. thx! | 18:49 |
| jaypipes | creiht: you said that swift uses it? | 18:50 |
| creiht | No | 18:50 |
| creiht | It is just the one that interests me the most :) | 18:50 |
| jaypipes | creiht: ok | 18:50 |
| creiht | And seems to be reasonable | 18:51 |
| jaypipes | indeed :) | 18:51 |
| gundlach | http://what.repoze.org/docs/1.0/ -- they claim that their documentation is 100% ("if it isn't documented, it doesn't exist.") | 18:52 |
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| jaypipes | gundlach: hehe, nice :) | 18:55 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: would be great to get nova to that point sometime :) | 18:55 |
| gundlach | i'm kind of a documentation nazi so i'll probably make a pass through adding comments to all methods and classes, once i'm familiar with the system | 18:56 |
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| gundlach | that is to say, an internal documentation nazi. | 18:56 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: we've already started lots of that with the pylint stuff :) | 18:57 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: and I welcome your patches! | 18:57 |
| gundlach | oh yeah, excellent | 18:57 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: http://etherpad.openstack.org/nova-pylint | 18:57 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #615518 in nova "unit test nova.tests.auth_unittest.AuthTestCase.test_209_can_generate_x509 failing on Mac OS X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615518 | 19:41 |
| eday | gundlach: you around? | 19:49 |
| gundlach | yep | 19:49 |
| gundlach | was about to ask you a q, in fact | 19:49 |
| gundlach | what's up? | 19:49 |
| eday | gundlach: wanna chat api with _cerberus_ and I? | 19:49 |
| gundlach | sure | 19:49 |
| eday | gundlach: ok, we'll grab a room and call you | 19:49 |
| gundlach | k! | 19:49 |
| eday | gundlach: msg your # :) | 19:49 |
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| gundlach | mtaylor: can you add cerberus and myself to nova-core so we can approve branches? | 20:33 |
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| gundlach | eday: am i correct that you should have modified tools/pip-requires to include routes, and i should have included webob? | 21:29 |
| gundlach | methinks so | 21:29 |
| eday | gundlach: yeah | 21:33 |
| gundlach | k, will add | 21:33 |
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| gundlach | anyone: after a branch is merged into trunk, if i want to add more code related to that branch, do I need to delete my branch and rebranch trunk, or can I just keep coding in my branch and later do another merge proposal, or what? | 21:54 |
| creiht | gundlach: I'm pretty sure that you can just do another merge proposal | 21:55 |
| gundlach | creiht: that's what i hoped. thanks. | 21:56 |
| eday | gundlach: yes, confirming you can keep the same | 21:58 |
| eday | gundlach: this is what bzr pipelines depends on in fact.. creating a series of lightweight branches in the same branch and propose them all at once. And if you need to change a previous rev, you can "pump" new changes through the pipline | 21:59 |
| eday | gundlach: nice for working on a large chunk with multiple proposals when things can change | 22:00 |
| gundlach | i hadn't read much about lightweight branches vs "real" branches. interesting | 22:00 |
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