| masumotok | Hello, I appreciate if somebody give me an reply. | 00:07 |
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| masumotok | In today's meetings, I saw "go/not go meeting will be held on Thursday, same time". | 00:07 |
| masumotok | That means "Austin Release may achieved or postponed, that is meeting aganda". correct? | 00:07 |
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| grizzletooth | masumotok: I believe you are correct. | 00:14 |
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| masumotok | grizzletooth: Thanks! | 00:15 |
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| mtaylor | dendrobates: pong | 00:39 |
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| notmyname | this could be an interesting problem in the days to come http://www.archlinux.org/news/python-is-now-python-3/ | 01:17 |
| burris | notmyname, it'll be good practice for the impending switchover to perl 6 | 01:19 |
| notmyname | burris: right after we're all running on ipv6? | 01:19 |
| burris | ipv6 might actually happen | 01:19 |
| notmyname | ya, I keep hearing rumors. more and more dire all the time ;-) | 01:20 |
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| dendrobates | mtaylor: we have three merge requests that have been sitting for between 2-6 hours | 02:05 |
| dendrobates | mtaylor: can you see why they are not being merged? | 02:05 |
| dendrobates | mtaylor: they are holding up me spinning the RC | 02:06 |
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| dendrobates | Gaaaa!!!!!!!111 Hudson! | 02:17 |
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| * soren pats dendrobates on the head | 02:34 | |
| soren | dendrobates: Hudson troubles? | 02:34 |
| soren | Erk. Too much red. | 02:35 |
| soren | Ok, I think I know what that's all about.. | 02:35 |
| * soren looks | 02:35 | |
| soren | Yup, found it. | 02:37 |
| soren | dendrobates: It's all your fault, actually :) | 02:37 |
| soren | dendrobates: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dendrobates/nova/lp663559/+merge/38892 was missing both a commit message and a description. | 02:38 |
| soren | dendrobates: I added a commit message (copied from the commit in the proposed branch). It should be smooth sailing from then on. | 02:38 |
| soren | dendrobates: I'll see what's up with the other two once this one lands. | 02:39 |
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| soren | One of these days, I'm going to have to try to find out why it takes several mintes to go from "Completed test command: /var/lib/hudson/test_nova.sh" to "Firing tarmac_post_commit hook". | 02:42 |
| dendrobates | what, no it wasn;t. | 02:46 |
| dendrobates | something screwed up during the push then | 02:46 |
| soren | If it was ever there, someone/something removed it. | 02:48 |
| soren | I added it, it got merged. Vish's branch just landed, too. | 02:48 |
| soren | Next up is Jay's. | 02:48 |
| dendrobates | it would be nice if we had some error to look at when something happened | 02:49 |
| soren | We do. | 02:49 |
| dendrobates | where? | 02:49 |
| soren | Hudson. | 02:49 |
| soren | Go to the failed build, look at the console output. | 02:49 |
| dendrobates | I looked all over. It's on the same box as the wiki right? | 02:49 |
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| soren | I don't believe it is, no. | 02:50 |
| soren | http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova-tarmac/27588/console | 02:50 |
| soren | That one is one of the ones that failed due to missing commit message on the merge proposal. | 02:50 |
| soren | Nope, it's not the same box. | 02:51 |
| dendrobates | oh, a web console. I was poking around the serve. | 02:51 |
| dendrobates | oh | 02:51 |
| soren | It seems only Monty and I have logins on it. | 02:51 |
| dendrobates | there is a hudson instance running on it, but it seems to just be for the planet | 02:51 |
| soren | Yes, it's remote-controlled by the "real" hudson server. | 02:52 |
| soren | Jay's branch merged. | 02:52 |
| soren | So yay, we have a succesful build again. | 02:52 |
| dendrobates | now will the ppa build? | 02:53 |
| soren | That was unrelated, but yes. | 02:53 |
| dendrobates | what was that? | 02:53 |
| soren | Well, I know why it failed *today*. | 02:53 |
| soren | I hav eno idea why it seems to have been failing since the 6th. | 02:53 |
| soren | Let me just check if that's really the case. | 02:54 |
| soren | It is. | 02:57 |
| soren | No idea why.. | 02:57 |
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| mtaylor | dendrobates, soren hello | 03:07 |
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| mtaylor | soren: you seem to have found the fun with missing commit message and description | 03:09 |
| soren | mtaylor: You have a messed up sense of humour :) | 03:10 |
| mtaylor | soren: yes. this is definitely true | 03:12 |
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| soren | dendrobates: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/austin-versioning/+merge/38906 | 03:38 |
| soren | mtaylor: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/austin-versioning/+merge/38906 | 03:38 |
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| soren | If you would do the honours, we can roll atarball. | 03:38 |
| dendrobates | I'm on it | 03:39 |
| soren | Hm... Hang on :) | 03:40 |
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| dendrobates | the diff looks fine | 03:40 |
| soren | It's missing a little ibit. | 03:41 |
| soren | 2 seconds. | 03:41 |
| dendrobates | what is it missing? | 03:41 |
| * soren hates hotel wifi | 03:41 | |
| soren | version in docs | 03:41 |
| soren | pushed. | 03:42 |
| dendrobates | It's 2 lines I pushed to approved | 03:43 |
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| dendrobates | let hudson do it's magic and we are ready to go. | 03:44 |
| soren | That's good, 'cause I'm about to cross my usefulness threshold. | 03:45 |
| * soren goes to pass out. | 03:45 | |
| dendrobates | I am about past mine. get some sleep | 03:45 |
| soren | I promise. | 03:45 |
| soren | You too! | 03:45 |
| soren | happy RC. | 03:45 |
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| vishy | happy! | 03:59 |
| dendrobates | well they rc tarballs are up. now I need to go pack. I'll send the email tomorrow morning. | 04:02 |
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| zykes- | where's the rc tarball ? | 08:00 |
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| dendrobates | zykes-: http://launchpad.net/nova | 11:13 |
| dendrobates | zykes-: there is a download link there | 11:13 |
| zykes- | oki | 11:15 |
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| gustavomzw | eme | 11:25 |
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| zykes- | and that works on maverick ? | 11:26 |
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| zykes- | what's the difference on https://code.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/nova/trunk and https://code.launchpad.net/nova ? | 12:03 |
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| kakoni | Hi guys. So promised to come back with swift-bench results when running more tuned cluster. | 12:24 |
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| kakoni | So test setup, ubuntu 10.10 on 1 proxy machine, 6 storage nodes. average perf about 350 writes / sec, and read somewhere in the 1000 range. | 12:32 |
| zykes- | why does ony want to get rid of redis ? | 12:37 |
| zykes- | in Nova | 12:38 |
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| zykes- | hmm, when could there be in place a framework for writing a new driver ? | 13:22 |
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| gundlach | jaypipes: ping | 14:15 |
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| jaypipes | gundlach: pong | 14:21 |
| gundlach | howdy, have you made the new test-overhaul branch? i don't want to duplicate your work but would love to convert some tests to nosetests. | 14:22 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: can you give me a few more hours? I've been working on it.. | 14:23 |
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| gundlach | sure. could you tell me the name of a unittest that you haven't started converting, so i can take care of that and then cherry-pick it into your branch later? | 14:23 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: sure thing :) take any of them below network_unittest (in the import list in run_tests.py) | 14:24 |
| gundlach | thx. | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: I've been working on a method to reset the test environment using fixtures and haven't converted any more tests | 14:24 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: what do you need to reset beyond the setUp and tearDown methods? (and are you aware of module-level setUp and tearDown support in nose?) | 14:25 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: yes... here is what I'm working on: http://codepad.org/v9xHmc2I | 14:27 |
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| jaypipes | gundlach: not tested at all...a work in progress, but I think you can see where I'm going with it. | 14:28 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: ah, i see. | 14:29 |
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| creiht_ | interesting.... eventlet is getting a zeromq hub | 14:36 |
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| ttx | interesting indeed | 14:40 |
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| piken | Can nova be setup for redundancy on the cloud controller? | 14:59 |
| jonwood | piken: I don't think there's any reason you couldn't just set up two cloud controllers. They share a database and message queue, so I don't think they'd break each other. | 15:00 |
| jonwood | Then either put them behind a shared IP with failover, or point some of your nodes at one, and some at the other. | 15:01 |
| piken | also has anyone here actively used libcloud and boto with nova? | 15:09 |
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| dendrobates | hello folks | 15:18 |
| dendrobates | sitting in an airport trying to get the RC email out to the team. | 15:19 |
| dendrobates | things were delayed last night when I broke the merge env and couldn't fix it. | 15:20 |
| dendrobates | anyone out there care to modify the nova install docs for the RC? | 15:22 |
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| annegentle | dendrobates: sure, was planning to update today | 15:30 |
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| creiht | mtaylor: did the swift debian stuff get updated? | 15:38 |
| creiht | looks like they did | 15:38 |
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| dendrobates | annegentle: as soon as we can. basically we need instruction on how to install from a tarball. | 15:52 |
| annegentle | dendrobates: ayup | 15:52 |
| dendrobates | annegentle: are you in the office? | 15:53 |
| annegentle | dendrobates: yeah, sure am | 15:53 |
| dendrobates | annegentle: see you in a bit, then. We can discuss it in the RW | 15:53 |
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| annegentle | dendrobates: sounds good | 15:54 |
| dendrobates | annegentle: though I don;t know if I remember how to talk to people face to face. | 15:54 |
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| annegentle | dendrobates: bwah ha | 15:55 |
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| notmyname | dendrobates: just saw your email. curious about what you mean by installing it on maverick rather than lucid. I know we have packages for maverick, but we run on (and dev for) lucid | 15:58 |
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| zykes- | dendrobates: can't one just use the packages on lucid ? | 16:02 |
| zykes- | instead of tarball | 16:02 |
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| letterj | dendrobates: In your email about the release candidate packages you say: "I will be providing links to an Ubuntu package archive later today, if | 16:03 |
| letterj | you want to install onto Ubuntu Maverick." | 16:03 |
| letterj | dendrobates: Will different packages be needed for Lucid | 16:04 |
| creiht | I see a recurring theme here :) | 16:04 |
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| mtaylor | creiht, letterj we should be uploading source packages to the ppa for both lucid and maverick | 16:25 |
| mtaylor | creiht: oh - yeah! | 16:26 |
| mtaylor | creiht: the debian stuff should be up to date and good to go | 16:26 |
| creiht | mtaylor: yeah it looks good so far, and thanks! | 16:26 |
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| mtaylor | creiht: w00t | 16:27 |
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| jaypipes | hehe, Ewan Mellor now has a new (and cooler) last name. http://wiki.openstack.org/2010ArchitectureBoardElections | 16:47 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: a few things to fix up on the Nova docs...see notes in code review. I don't blame you for not knowing these things...they change so darn often :) | 16:49 |
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| jaypipes | eday: what's up with this blbueprint? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cloud-tests-in-fake | 17:04 |
| jaypipes | eday: looks like it can be deleted? | 17:04 |
| eday | jaypipes: this was one of the blueprints I converted over from an etherpad, I think Vish made it originally | 17:05 |
| eday | this was months ago | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | eday: delete it? :) | 17:05 |
| jaypipes | eday: want to give gundlach's https://code.launchpad.net/~gundlach/nova/lp663551/+merge/38900 a once over? | 17:06 |
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| eday | vishy: any more details on that blueprint above jay is asking about? it was on the etherpad you had a few months back, if you can remember... | 17:14 |
| vishy | i think that was about making integration tests work in fake mode | 17:15 |
| vishy | meaning that you could run multiple workers and communicate in a test | 17:15 |
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| eday | ok | 17:16 |
| eday | so part of the integration testing overhaul that is needed | 17:16 |
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| dpackard | hi all | 17:23 |
| dpackard | I am looking to manage a small cluster connected via gigabit ethernet | 17:24 |
| eday | jaypipes, gundlach: approved, but not marking as approved for merge since I'm not sure if this should go into the release since the RC has been cut | 17:25 |
| dpackard | It needs to be lightweight, as the processors are 600 MHz and have 256MB ram | 17:25 |
| gundlach | eday: right -- i asked dendrobates to status=approve it if he wants to | 17:25 |
| eday | gundlach: ok, cool | 17:25 |
| alekibango | dpackard: how many computers? | 17:25 |
| alekibango | dpackard: today most people are busy a lot, as tomorrow is a release of nova | 17:25 |
| dpackard | alekibango: 8 computers | 17:26 |
| dpackard | that's right! oct 21st | 17:26 |
| alekibango | dpackard: nova is not created to run on 256 MB computers, 16+ GB would be more appropriate :) | 17:26 |
| dpackard | that's what I was afraid of.. | 17:26 |
| alekibango | you will need one compter (or more) with sql | 17:26 |
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| dpackard | yes, that is possible | 17:27 |
| jonwood | dpackard: It might work using UML | 17:27 |
| alekibango | database, and on others, os will take 60-70 mb, nova also will take few mb, 128 mb will be there for virtual machines? thats pretty low | 17:27 |
| alekibango | jonwood: i didnt use uml for long time, so i cant compare it | 17:28 |
| alekibango | what purpose it should serve? | 17:28 |
| alekibango | dpackard: ^ | 17:28 |
| dpackard | hmmm... | 17:28 |
| dpackard | It is a platform for embedded systems (robots) | 17:28 |
| alekibango | if 2 virtual machines with 70 mb is ok for you :) | 17:28 |
| alekibango | dpackard: i never measured lowest requirements :) | 17:29 |
| dpackard | the devices are Overo Gumstix, tied together on an Overo Stagecoach | 17:29 |
| dpackard | Really.. I think I am looking for something that doesn't require virtualization | 17:29 |
| alekibango | dpackard: it would be better to buy 2 normal cheap computers and give them some ram | 17:29 |
| jarrod | i have a rack of dual quad-core dells w/ 16gig waiting for openstack | 17:29 |
| alekibango | jarrod: the same here :) | 17:30 |
| dpackard | along the lines of the (now dead) openmosix project | 17:30 |
| alekibango | but i have 8cores and not dell | 17:30 |
| jarrod | alek: this week? | 17:30 |
| alekibango | jarrod: asap | 17:30 |
| jonwood | dpackard: If you're not looking for virtualization, Nova isn't what you're looking for. | 17:30 |
| jarrod | when is it released | 17:30 |
| dpackard | alekibango: it is for visual processing in robotics | 17:31 |
| dpackard | jonwood: thanks :) | 17:31 |
| jonwood | dpackard: What were you hoping it would do? | 17:31 |
| dpackard | jonwood: I was hoping it would provide some basic load-balancing features on real compute nodes | 17:32 |
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| alekibango | dpackard: buying 2 new servers might be cheaper :) | 17:32 |
| alekibango | even 'servers' | 17:32 |
| dpackard | alekibango: hehe, this is for robotics :) | 17:33 |
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| alekibango | if they run small guests, thats fine | 17:33 |
| jonwood | dpackard: Yup, Nova's not that, and I'm afraid it's completely out of my field, so I'm not sure what would do it. | 17:33 |
| alekibango | dpackard: nova enables you to run many virtual hosts on a number of servers | 17:33 |
| alekibango | and helps to manage it | 17:34 |
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| alekibango | virtual hosts can be small - for whatever reasons used | 17:34 |
| dpackard | alekibango: ok :) I think I will have to continue looking | 17:34 |
| dpackard | jonwood: thanks for your input! | 17:34 |
| alekibango | but servers should not be that small :) even desktop computer my 2 year old daughter is using is having 2 GB RAM | 17:35 |
| dpackard | alekibango: goodluck with the release tomorrow! | 17:35 |
| alekibango | dpackard: heh, i am not the one responsible, but thanks :) | 17:35 |
| alekibango | dpackard: my atom desktop computer would be better server than yours 8 :) | 17:36 |
| dpackard | hahaha :p | 17:36 |
| jonwood | alekibango: It would make an awful robot though. | 17:36 |
| alekibango | hehehe | 17:36 |
| dpackard | alekibango: precisely ;) | 17:37 |
| dpackard | thanks guys! | 17:38 |
| alekibango | i loved robotics when i was younger :) | 17:38 |
| alekibango | it got me to computers really | 17:38 |
| dpackard | Very cool :) check out roadnarrows.com if you want to get some hobby/research platforms | 17:39 |
| alekibango | maybe for my kids :) | 17:40 |
| dpackard | gotta run :) thanks again | 17:40 |
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| vishy | oo | 17:42 |
| vishy | found a nasty bug | 17:42 |
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| vishy | in fact a couple of them | 17:43 |
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| mtaylor | jaypipes: http://drizzle.org/workitems/ | 18:01 |
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| mtaylor | jaypipes: I got that going for drizzle workitems via hudson ... I'm gonna spin it up for openstack via hudson now | 18:01 |
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| jaypipes | mtaylor: well played. | 18:10 |
| jaypipes | vishy: ya? where? | 18:10 |
| vishy | if there is a bunch of stuff in the queue when a worker starts | 18:11 |
| vishy | it does very badly | 18:11 |
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| vishy | because the service doesn't have a manager set yet | 18:11 |
| jaypipes | vishy: ah... | 18:12 |
| vishy | also just got bit by dnsmasq pids wrapping | 18:12 |
| jaypipes | gundlach: got the test fixture reset environment working :) | 18:12 |
| vishy | there was a todo in there | 18:12 |
| vishy | so i just todid it | 18:12 |
| jaypipes | vishy: :) nice. | 18:13 |
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| creiht | annegentle: btw, in your source directory, you should be able to run "python setup.py build_sphinx" to build the docs locally | 18:22 |
| creiht | then point your browser to doc/build/html/index.html | 18:22 |
| annegentle | creiht: great! trying it now. | 18:22 |
| annegentle | hm, invalid command, and when I look at setup.py I don't see a build_sphinx line | 18:24 |
| creiht | annegentle: then you probably don't have sphinx installed | 18:24 |
| creiht | what os are you running? | 18:24 |
| annegentle | ok, yeah that's right. I'm on MacOS | 18:25 |
| annegentle | so apt-get won't work, right? | 18:25 |
| creiht | annegentle: if you type "easy_install" does it print out stuff, or show command not found? | 18:26 |
| gundlach | jaypipes: oh, lovely :) send me a branch link when you have one | 18:26 |
| annegentle | looks like easy_install is installed | 18:26 |
| creiht | cool | 18:26 |
| creiht | then try | 18:26 |
| creiht | sudo easy_install -U sphinx | 18:26 |
| annegentle | cool, it's downloading | 18:27 |
| annegentle | geez what would I do without you guys helping me :) | 18:27 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #664073 in swift "swift-log-stats-collector can run over itself" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664073 | 18:42 |
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| kakoni | hi guys. so hows the refrence swift cluster doc/setup coming up? | 19:05 |
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| letterj | mtaylor: I built packages from trunk and have the that code up and running in our lab. It looks great! Lots more testing needs to be done. | 19:21 |
| alekibango | kakoni: one server for tests or multinode setup? | 19:22 |
| kakoni | alekibango: multi-node setup | 19:23 |
| alekibango | best we have atm is: http://etherpad.openstack.org/NovaMultinodeInstall | 19:24 |
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| alekibango | please contribut there :) | 19:24 |
| alekibango | s/t/te/ | 19:24 |
| alekibango | kakoni: see also wiki.openstack.org | 19:25 |
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| dendrobates | mtaylor: are you around? | 19:35 |
| alekibango | jaypipes: we have response on the hijacking allegation blog | 19:36 |
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| jaypipes | alekibango: interesting response. I agree with him on both of his points. | 19:42 |
| alekibango | yes he is not dumb | 19:43 |
| alekibango | jaypipes: i believe its possible to correct somehow our course :) which we should do | 19:43 |
| alekibango | the standardization is very important part of this | 19:44 |
| alekibango | jaypipes: this is also interesting reading http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/10/17/shuttleworth-admits-it.html | 19:45 |
| alekibango | got me thinking a bit :) | 19:45 |
| alekibango | still i believe in holy fork :) | 19:46 |
| piken | is Austin still being released stable tomorrow? | 19:47 |
| alekibango | i think opencore-izing will not help... that they should move to service oriented business - thats right economic layer -- linux distros are not (and should not try) to create intrustries | 19:47 |
| alekibango | piken: prolly | 19:47 |
| piken | I will keep my fingers crossed as we are trying to get moved from Euca to it and upper management just likes to see official releases. | 19:48 |
| alekibango | piken: austin nova release is really initial | 19:48 |
| jaypipes | alekibango: yeah, ready that yesterday. I don't really think Mark is all about opencore... I think Bradley is over-stating a few things.. | 19:49 |
| alekibango | might be, but still interesting read... | 19:49 |
| piken | alekibango: even initial it is more refined then euca. lol | 19:50 |
| alekibango | piken: hehe, :)) | 19:50 |
| jaypipes | piken: understood. we're trying our best. AFAIK, we're on track to release tomorrow. vishy, do you think those bugs you found are critical and worth holding hte release up for? | 19:50 |
| vishy | one is critical | 19:50 |
| vishy | i'll propose | 19:50 |
| alekibango | bug fixes can always bubble into stable branch... :) | 19:50 |
| kakoni | and then swift and rsync. I guess the default max conns set to 2,4 and 8 (for objects). perhaps something that one could tune? | 19:52 |
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| vishy | jaypipes: i'm just trying to figure out if i can write a test case | 19:55 |
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| creiht | kakoni: waiting on hardware for the reference setup | 19:56 |
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| creiht | kakoni: what was your other question in reference to replication? | 19:57 |
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| kakoni | creiht: other question; any recommendations for the rsync setup? Go with the values set in the default confs, or should we tune them? | 20:08 |
| creiht | for a production cluster, with a lot of drives, the default is pretty good | 20:08 |
| creiht | at least a good starting point | 20:08 |
| creiht | kakoni: you had 2 drives per machine right? | 20:09 |
| kakoni | creiht: btw, so ran new swift test today. it was 1 proxy + 5 storage nodes (+1 swift-bench generator) (with new hardware). for 1-byte inserts we saw figures around 300-400 puts per sec | 20:09 |
| kakoni | creiht: not any more;) initially this was raid0 setup, now theres 4 drives per machine. | 20:10 |
| creiht | ahh ok | 20:10 |
| creiht | I would use some smaller valuse then | 20:10 |
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| creiht | and that rate sounds pretty slow | 20:11 |
| creiht | but it can depend on so many things | 20:11 |
| kakoni | well better than the earlier 100 per sec, right;) | 20:11 |
| creiht | hehe | 20:11 |
| creiht | indeed | 20:11 |
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| creiht | kakoni: some things to check to see where the bottle neck is | 20:12 |
| creiht | 1.) check the cpu usage of the bench script... (it will only use one core). If it is using close to all cpu, I would try running another instance | 20:13 |
| creiht | kakoni: btw, what do you have the workers option set to in the proxy, account, container, and object servers? | 20:13 |
| creiht | (if it isn't set, it defaults to 1, which probably isn't ideal) | 20:14 |
| kakoni | workers are typically set to cores * 2 | 20:14 |
| creiht | kakoni: is that what they are set to in your config? | 20:15 |
| kakoni | yeah, so for instance that newer test done today took place in 4 core machines, so worker value was set to 8 | 20:15 |
| creiht | ok | 20:15 |
| creiht | so then | 20:16 |
| creiht | 2.) Check the cpu usage on the proxies and and storage nodes to see if something is maxing out on cpu | 20:17 |
| creiht | 3.) check the iowait on the storage node to see if disk io is what is limiting | 20:18 |
| kakoni | 2) Atleast in the proxy nodes cpu usage is minimal. | 20:18 |
| creiht | 4.) normally you would check the network usage on the interfaces, but for that test, you shouldn't be saturating the network | 20:18 |
| kakoni | 3) yep will do that | 20:18 |
| creiht | oh | 20:19 |
| creiht | kakoni: what concurrency are you running the benchmark at? the default is 10, if that isn't set, keep bumping it up until requests/s stop going up | 20:19 |
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| kakoni | yeah I cranked it up till about 150. That was the "breakeven";) point | 20:21 |
| creiht | k | 20:21 |
| creiht | kakoni: did you check 1.)? | 20:21 |
| kakoni | well no, I wasnt actively monitoring bench machine cpu. something to put to my note list;) | 20:22 |
| creiht | yeah the benchmark is just single process, so if you max it out on cpu, then I recommend starting doing multiple bench processes | 20:23 |
| creiht | I need to add a capability for it to do it automatically | 20:23 |
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| creiht | 5.) Check /var/log/syslog to see if any errors are showing up | 20:26 |
| kakoni | 5) well usually there is always something;) connection timeouts etc.. | 20:28 |
| creiht | kakoni: .5 second timeout? | 20:29 |
| creiht | some of the timeouts are a bit aggressive | 20:29 |
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| creiht | though on a small network, I imagine that shouldn't be a huge issue | 20:30 |
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| kakoni | creiht: yep. thats the one. | 20:31 |
| creiht | kakoni: are the connection timeouts to a single server, or do they appear to be accross the board? | 20:31 |
| kakoni | accross | 20:32 |
| creiht | kakoni: and are you running 1.0.2 or 1.1.0rc? | 20:32 |
| creiht | k | 20:32 |
| kakoni | well;) latest trunk | 20:32 |
| creiht | ok good | 20:32 |
| creiht | :) | 20:32 |
| kakoni | so i guess thats 1.1.0 | 20:32 |
| creiht | yeah | 20:32 |
| creiht | I'm also going to try running similar tests in our lab with the swift-bench | 20:33 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #664146 in nova/austin "boto version should be 1.9b not 1.9b1 in pip-requires" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664146 | 20:36 |
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| creiht | kakoni: and how many objects are you putting in for the test? | 20:38 |
| kakoni | creiht: typically 10000 | 20:39 |
| creiht | k | 20:39 |
| kakoni | creiht: but ok, ill ran some more tests tomorrow, will watch more closely for the cpu/iowait behaviour. | 20:41 |
| creiht | cool | 20:42 |
| kakoni | okii, bye | 20:43 |
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| dendrobates | https://code.launchpad.net/~dendrobates/nova/lp664146/+merge/38984 | 20:49 |
| dendrobates | can someone review that please | 20:49 |
| zul | done | 20:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #664150 in nova "Existing Messages in the queue break the workers." [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664150 | 20:51 |
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| dendrobates | jaypipes eday soren mtaylor: around? | 20:53 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: always? | 20:54 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: looking | 20:54 |
| dendrobates | mtaylor: thx | 20:54 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: y | 20:54 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: done | 20:54 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: just wanted a review mtaylor helped me out | 20:55 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: k | 20:55 |
| mtaylor | it's what I do :) | 20:55 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #664153 in nova "Nova-network fails to start dnsmasq if a pid has been reused" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664153 | 20:56 |
| dendrobates | mtaylor: quick question for a debian dev? | 20:57 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: yup | 20:57 |
| dendrobates | would 2010.1~rc-0ubuntu4 be superseded by 2010.1-0ubuntu1 | 20:57 |
| dendrobates | I always mess that up, if it is not simple | 20:57 |
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| mtaylor | dendrobates: no. the ~ only applies in the debian revision | 20:58 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: so, 2010.1-0ubuntu4~rc would be superseeded by 2010.1-0ubuntu4 | 20:58 |
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| dendrobates | ok, that will work thanks. | 20:59 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: debian packaging does not really have good structures for dealing with pre-releases ... since those aren't supposed to go in the archive anyway :) | 20:59 |
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| mtaylor | dendrobates: so - the problem you may run in to doing what I pasted... | 20:59 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: is that both 2010.1-0ubuntu4~rc and 2010.1-0ubuntu1 will expect a 2010.1.orig.tar.gz ... and the various archives will barf if you try to have two different tarballs called 2010.1.orig.tar.gz | 21:00 |
| vishy | proposed two bugfixes | 21:00 |
| dendrobates | mtaylor: they would be in different archives | 21:01 |
| mtaylor | then in that case it should be fine | 21:01 |
| dendrobates | the RC will be in a ppa | 21:01 |
| dendrobates | thx again | 21:01 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: in general though we should probably come up with a 'better' strategy for dealing with what we're trying to do here for the future | 21:01 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: any time | 21:01 |
| mtaylor | dendrobates: btw - you can do: dpkg --compare-versions 2010.1~rc-0ubuntu4 gt 2010.1-0ubuntu1 && echo "2010.1~rc-0ubuntu4 is greater" | 21:03 |
| mtaylor | if you ever want to test version math | 21:03 |
| dendrobates | mtaylor: thanks | 21:03 |
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| jaypipes | vishy, soren, gundlach: if you have 3 minutes, would be good to get your input on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/compute-should-create-instance. Thanks in advance :) | 21:30 |
| vishy | looks good | 21:31 |
| vishy | outstanding question: does the rpc.cast to compute move into create_and_run_instance? | 21:32 |
| vishy | same for volume and network calls | 21:33 |
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| jaypipes | vishy: ya, as much as possible would move to compute node. (basically, cloud controller would send a request to create and start up an instance, and the compute node would create it in the datastore and fire off tasks to the relevant worker nodes.) I'm thinking of yielding the instance id back to the cloud controller as soon as the instance is created in the data store, and then firing off the async jobs to the worker no | 21:36 |
| jaypipes | des after that... | 21:36 |
| vishy | yeah that sounds perfect | 21:36 |
| vishy | exactly what i was thinking | 21:36 |
| jaypipes | vishy: cool. will add it to our list of stuff to chat about at the summit :) | 21:36 |
| vishy | it is so meta to have ComputeManager using rpc.cast to call itself on another node | 21:37 |
| vishy | :) | 21:37 |
| jaypipes | vishy: hopefully I can have a demo branch done by that point. | 21:37 |
| jaypipes | vishy: hehe, indeed. | 21:37 |
| vishy | jaypipes: you saw my email about network state and where i think we should go with ip allocation? | 21:37 |
| jaypipes | vishy: yep, I did, and 100% agree with that direction | 21:38 |
| vishy | japipes: cool, yeah i'd like to have basically no code in the api's | 21:38 |
| vishy | the one part that is a little tricky is the key generation | 21:38 |
| vishy | we probably need a crypto manager | 21:38 |
| jaypipes | vishy: the only issue I foresee is the current Rackspace API is synchronous for adding a server and returning its IP :( It will block waiting until the IP is assigned.. | 21:39 |
| vishy | cuz it was happening in auth for a while | 21:39 |
| vishy | jaypipes: time to rewrite the spec :) | 21:39 |
| jaypipes | vishy: but that's RS' problem ;) | 21:39 |
| jaypipes | OS API v2 :) | 21:39 |
| eday | vishy, jaypipes: So, pushing data creation to the worker might not mix well with vishy's idea yesterday about keeping workers read-only :) | 21:40 |
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| eday | vishy, jaypipes: I think before deciding what should be created where (or really changing anything) we should figure out the data model and how to secure and scale it. We might end up having the schedulers doing all the writing if we go with vishy's idea yesterday, or worker nodes doing their writing and pushing up events from there. | 21:44 |
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| vishy | eday: it isn't going to the worker, it still runs in the api process, the code just moves into compute_manager | 21:55 |
| eday | vishy: ok, when I read "as much as possible would move to compute node", I thought node == worker | 21:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #664182 in swift "swift-bench should put to multiple containers" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/664182 | 21:56 |
| eday | vishy: but yes, all for putting creation code in the correct manager class :) | 21:56 |
| vishy | oh good point, i missed that | 21:57 |
| vishy | eday: yes it really depends on where the writing is happening, that piece of the code should do the db calls | 21:57 |
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| creiht | much better | 22:44 |
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| jaypipes | eday: sorry, had to step away for a phone call.... | 22:45 |
| jaypipes | eday: yeah, I was only talking about the write to the data store being done by the manager, not the API server. | 22:47 |
| creiht | so in the simple lab config now with the updated swift-bench, I get 1300 PUTs/s and 2600 GETs/s to one proxy | 22:47 |
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| eday | jaypipes: do you mean the manager class in the API server process, or from the nova-compute worker? | 23:00 |
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| jaypipes | eday: well, the compute_manager is not used in the API server process (it is called via rpc.cast to the compute node) | 23:00 |
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| eday | jaypipes: yeah, but it could be used on both ends. For example, both the openstack and ec2 api servers should call a common compute class/method to create data/send call/whatever | 23:02 |
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| vishy | eday: I have a patch in for review | 23:14 |
| cdub_ | does nova include any kind of guest agent? | 23:15 |
| vishy | https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/lp664150/+merge/38986 | 23:15 |
| vishy | if you have a second | 23:15 |
| vishy | cdub_: no | 23:15 |
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| cdub_ | vishy: is there a plan for one, or considered outside the scope of nova? | 23:16 |
| vishy | cdub_: yes, there is a blueprint for it i think, didn't make it into austin | 23:16 |
| cdub_ | vishy: have a blueprint pointer? | 23:17 |
| vishy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/austin-guest-agent | 23:17 |
| cdub_ | vishy: thank you | 23:18 |
| vishy | cdub_: np | 23:18 |
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| cdub_ | hmm, XenStore...ok | 23:20 |
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