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HugoKuo | anyone ever access data with SWIFT by Cyberduck ? | 01:57 |
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HugoKuo | and what is flag "--s3_host=" means this flag isn't work for now right? | 02:54 |
HugoKuo | while I use 'euca-describe-images' : TypeError: index() takes exactly 2 arguments (3 given) | 03:05 |
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soren | 'morning. | 08:12 |
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ttx | soren: o/ | 08:27 |
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soren | mtaylor: I thought you said you were upgrading the hudson box to maverick? | 08:33 |
mtaylor | soren: did I saw that? | 08:34 |
mtaylor | say | 08:34 |
soren | At UDS, I think. | 08:34 |
soren | In a rest room, no less. | 08:34 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #681265 in nova ""nova-manage zipfile" step is missing from single.node.install docs" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681265 | 09:01 |
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soren | ttx: Would you be up for drafting some guidelines on bug importance, too? | 09:53 |
ttx | soren: that's part of the BugsLifecycle doc that I need to write, yes. | 09:54 |
soren | \o/ | 09:54 |
ttx | soren: same model as http://wiki.openstack.org/BlueprintsLifecycle, so with a reference section detailing the meaning of each field. | 09:54 |
soren | ttx: Yes, exactly. | 09:54 |
soren | ttx: I just wasn't sure if you would drive that bit, since you didn't really respond to that part in the e-mail thread. :) | 09:55 |
ttx | soren: btw I started working on a blueprints screenscraping lib, to compensate for LP not exposing BPs in the APi directly | 09:56 |
ttx | soren: but there seem to be some efforts in LP to actually expose that properly... | 09:56 |
ttx | soren: so I may just wait, depending on how fast that goes. But writing code is fun, so I may just do it[tm] | 09:57 |
soren | ttx: I'm not sure what their plan is. I got the impression that one of the proposals was to combine the data model for bugs and blueprints into one (still keeping them separate in the UI). That would immediately expose a lot of useful stuff. | 09:57 |
ttx | soren: yes, thats The Plan. | 09:57 |
soren | ttx: Your lib would be read-only, though, right? | 09:58 |
ttx | soren: unfortunately, I'm not sure it will be done in such a reasonable time that I'll keep my sanity. | 09:58 |
ttx | soren: I see no reason why it wouldn't be r/w. | 09:58 |
soren | ttx: ok | 09:59 |
soren | ttx: cool! | 09:59 |
ttx | The auth part might be a bit convoluted | 09:59 |
soren | That's what I was thinking. | 10:00 |
soren | ..but I guess as soon as you have a cookie, you're fine. | 10:01 |
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ttx | I'll do a read-only first and then see how fast lp:~james-w/launchpad/expose-blueprints goes | 10:02 |
ttx | soren: yes, that dude, again. | 10:02 |
soren | coolness. | 10:06 |
ttx | Looking at the code, it's much easier to fix it on LP side :) | 10:07 |
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sandywalsh | g'day! | 11:53 |
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soren | Daviey: Were you going to work on db migration at all? | 14:03 |
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Daviey | soren: Yes! | 14:09 |
soren | Daviey: Awesome. I want it hooked into our test system. If the DB schema changes, and there isn't a migration script, it should be rejected. | 14:11 |
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Daviey | soren: stage 1 is to get two way migrations working, stage 2 is to add schema version checking on start... | 14:13 |
Daviey | I'm not entirely sure if stage 2 function could be reused by the test suite | 14:13 |
Daviey | (i doubt it) | 14:13 |
Daviey | i'm not entirely sure how a test could be written for that... needs some thought. | 14:14 |
soren | Daviey: I have a pretty good idea about how to go about that. | 14:15 |
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Daviey | soren: Do share... it might make my job easier :) | 14:15 |
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Daviey | ttx: python-mechanize is your friend :) | 14:17 |
soren | Daviey: Perhaps if you explain what the difficulty might be, it'd be easier. | 14:18 |
Daviey | I recently wrote a screenscraper for checking my online banking balances... didn't actually take too long, and i imagine the login dance for that is harder than LP. | 14:18 |
Daviey | soren: Hmm.. well.. i thought stage 2 function relies on there already being a meta table with the schema version | 14:19 |
Daviey | a test enviroment won't have that | 14:19 |
soren | Daviey: Depends. | 14:19 |
soren | Daviey: Simple approach: | 14:19 |
soren | Daviey: Keep a record of the most recently accepted schema version. | 14:19 |
soren | Daviey: Compare at test time. | 14:20 |
soren | Daviey: Less simple, but much better: | 14:20 |
Daviey | soeren: as a const ? | 14:20 |
ttx | it's snowing. | 14:20 |
zul | in france? | 14:20 |
soren | Daviey: Just a file outside the code tree that records it when a new schema version has been accepted. | 14:20 |
ttx | zul: yes | 14:20 |
Daviey | blue sky here :) | 14:20 |
soren | It's been snowing for days here. | 14:20 |
zul | ttx: hah you got snow before we did | 14:21 |
soren | Daviey: so, the less simple, but much better approach: | 14:21 |
ttx | Daviey: last time tere was blue sky in England was, IIRC, in May 1959. | 14:21 |
Daviey | soren: Wouldn't the code tree need to ship it to eval? | 14:21 |
zul | ttx: but we are suppose to be getting a blizzard tomorrow | 14:21 |
Daviey | ttx: lol | 14:21 |
ttx | zul: last time there wasn't snow in Ottawa, was, IIRC, in August 2002 | 14:22 |
ttx | for a couple of hours. | 14:22 |
soren | Daviey: Have a bunch of test data that we can load into the db before merging new code, merge the new code, exercise the db layer to see if everything still works as expected. | 14:22 |
zul | ttx: heh | 14:22 |
soren | Daviey: What? | 14:22 |
Daviey | ttx: Why i didn't go to FOSDEM in 2008, http://snow.daviey.com/ | 14:22 |
soren | Daviey: Are those inches? | 14:22 |
Daviey | yeah | 14:22 |
zul | pansy ;) | 14:22 |
Daviey | Our village got most snow in the country that weekend... :( | 14:23 |
ttx | http://snow.daviey.com/ ? who needs URLs when you can have subdomains, eh | 14:23 |
Daviey | ttx: http://yes.sir.daviey.com/ | 14:23 |
* ttx can't wait for the subdomain URL shortener | 14:24 | |
Daviey | lol | 14:24 |
soren | Daviey: I don't understand this question: 14:21 < Daviey> soren: Wouldn't the code tree need to ship it to eval? | 14:27 |
Daviey | ttx: wow, i have 74 of 'em - just displaying one thing :/ | 14:27 |
Daviey | soren: Test case: if $current-schema != file('/some/schema/version/number.txt'): error() | 14:28 |
Daviey | how can the tests know the $current-schema? | 14:28 |
Daviey | err, the constant schema? | 14:28 |
soren | Daviey: You tell me? | 14:28 |
Daviey | i'm not a fan of that approach, but not ruling it out... You said out of tree... that makes it no worky? | 14:29 |
soren | It may not be necessary. | 14:29 |
soren | So, e.g. how the kernel team does ABI checks: | 14:30 |
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soren | Whenever the prototype of a public data structure or function changes, a hash changes. | 14:30 |
Daviey | soren: I reckon, get stage 1 working... then re-discuss for stage 2 (inc. test) :) | 14:30 |
soren | Daviey: Sounds like a plan :) | 14:30 |
Daviey | soren: I'll give you a shout to help at that stage! | 14:31 |
soren | Daviey: so, when the build finishes, they check if the hash of the just built kernel matches what is recorded in the source tree. If it does, it's fine. If not, it knows it broke the ABI, outputs the new hash so that someone can take that from the build logs, shove it into the code tree as the new expected hash, and they increase the ABI number. | 14:31 |
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Daviey | soren: Yeah... when i last built a kernel for private use, i cheated and changed the previous ABI hash value to match what i was getting on that build | 14:34 |
Daviey | was the easiest way i could see of forcing a build :) | 14:34 |
soren | Daviey: skipabi=true is your friend. | 14:35 |
Daviey | soren: I *did* try that iirc... for some reason it failed :/ | 14:37 |
soren | Daviey: fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic binary-headers skipabi=true skipmodule=true | 14:37 |
soren | Daviey: ...is what I use if I'm cowboying a kernel for myself. | 14:37 |
Daviey | i don't think i used binary-generic | 14:38 |
Daviey | hmm.. perhaps i did | 14:39 |
Daviey | *shrug* | 14:39 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #681411 in nova "Instance types should not be hard coded" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681411 | 14:57 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #681416 in nova "Different default security groups depending on API used to launch instnaces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681416 | 15:06 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #681417 in nova "All errors about quotas should include a unit" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681417 | 15:06 |
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openstackhudson | Project nova build #265: SUCCESS in 1 min 15 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/265/ | 15:24 |
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chmouel | hey guys, I have tried latest code and my networking is not working, I can't see anything obvious in logs, do you know where I should start for investigatting ? I am using uml under a slice | 16:59 |
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sandywalsh | I have to integrate my local experiment changes for this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/680709 first, but I have changes made to cloudservers to work with dev env installations of nova now: https://github.com/SandyWalsh/python-cloudservers | 17:03 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 680709 in nova "Auth should allow for fully customized URL's when defining x-Server-Management-Url" [Undecided,New] | 17:03 |
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sandywalsh | chmouel, are you using flatnetworking or virtdir? | 17:08 |
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chmouel | sandywalsh: how do find out which one I am using ? I have that in my nova-manage file http://paste.openstack.org/show/189/ | 17:54 |
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sandywalsh | chmouel, ok, so you are using vlanmanager ... that's what I'm using too. What error are you getting specifically? | 19:39 |
chmouel | sandywalsh: that's my problem I don't see anything in the logs, I can't ping it at all and everything seems to be up properly | 19:44 |
sandywalsh | chmouel, what does euca-describe-instances say? | 19:50 |
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chmouel | sandywalsh: i am getting a nice running http://paste.openstack.org/show/190/ | 20:27 |
sandywalsh | chmouel, cool ... are you getting connectivity issues to 10.0.0.x or authentication issues? | 20:28 |
chmouel | connectivity issues | 20:29 |
chmouel | i can't ping there | 20:29 |
sandywalsh | ah ... k, sec | 20:29 |
chmouel | the log of nova-network looks like no error btw: | 20:30 |
sandywalsh | what's 'virsh list' saying? | 20:31 |
chmouel | nothing seems | 20:32 |
sandywalsh | hmm | 20:32 |
chmouel | i am using uml | 20:32 |
sandywalsh | right, that could be it, I'm using qemu | 20:32 |
sandywalsh | There are some notes at the top of http://wiki.openstack.org/InstallFromSource | 20:32 |
sandywalsh | regarding dnsmasq | 20:32 |
chmouel | can I use qemu on slice by the way ? | 20:32 |
chmouel | on vm | 20:33 |
sandywalsh | I don't think so ... others have had problems with that | 20:33 |
sandywalsh | I'm not really familiar with the purpose/interaction with dnsmasq, but could be some gotcha's there. | 20:34 |
chmouel | humm weird going to do that with a reboot but I doubt it will solve it since the only dnsmasq process I have is one that serve for the bridge IP | 20:36 |
sandywalsh | yeah, that's not really my bag, so I'm not sure of the twists and turns. Those are the steps I followed. | 20:40 |
sandywalsh | I'm running in vmware on bridged guest ubuntu 10.10-64 | 20:40 |
chmouel | so qemu under vmware vm ? | 20:42 |
sandywalsh | yup | 20:42 |
chmouel | cool.. | 20:43 |
soren | chmouel: Did you try "euca-authorize -s 0.0.0.0/0 default" | 20:56 |
soren | ? | 20:56 |
chmouel | noip but doing that I am getting : | 20:57 |
chmouel | TypeError: 'NoneType' object does not support item assignment | 20:57 |
chmouel | I was just testing on austin release now but going to try that on dev | 20:57 |
chmouel | I probably get a screwd VM anyway after all my tweaks trying to figure out | 20:59 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #681600 in nova "DescribeImages without image_id argument broken" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/681600 | 21:51 |
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