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bwalk7125 | hey quick question: if I wanted to download a slightly older revision of the openstack nova branch, say 459, with the nova.sh script, what do I need to type after ./nova.sh branch? | 00:03 |
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vishy | it is the same as the bzr branch command | 00:11 |
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vishy | so nova.sh branch "lp:nova -r 459" i think should work? | 00:13 |
vishy | if not | 00:13 |
vishy | just do it manually with bzr branch lp:nova -r 459 nova | 00:13 |
bwalk7125 | oh ok | 00:15 |
bwalk7125 | thanks | 00:15 |
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bwalk7125 | yeah, i was trying lp:~hudson-openstack/nova/trunk/files/459?start_revid=459 and getting errors, I jsut wasn't sure on the syntax for the location | 00:15 |
bwalk7125 | thanks, I'll just do it manually | 00:15 |
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BK_man | what services do I need to be able to run instances on compute nodes in addition to nova-compute? | 00:16 |
BK_man | is nova-volume really required? | 00:17 |
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Ryan_Lane | BK_man: not as far as I can tell, no | 00:18 |
vishy | nope | 00:18 |
vishy | nova-volume is only required if you want remote block storage | 00:19 |
vishy | and it can run on the same or different hosts | 00:19 |
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rlucio | whats up with the trunk build failure on the ppa? | 00:51 |
rlucio | trunk/nova ppa i mean | 00:51 |
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rlucio | looks like an environment issue or a misconfig, the build tests were failing to connect to redis (for fakeldap auth driver) | 01:00 |
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eday | vishy: lp:~eday/nova/nosetests is a branch with almost everything converted to nosetests. network unittests are failing, if you have a min, care to look? branch that and run rm -f nova.sqlite && nosetests -v assuming that works, move nova/tests/network_unittest.py to nova/tests/test_network.py and run again | 01:09 |
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vishy | sure | 01:10 |
eday | not sure what is going on with those tests, but was hoping it might be something obvious for you :) | 01:12 |
vishy | holy horrible output batman | 01:12 |
eday | nosetests output, or those failed tests? | 01:12 |
vishy | running now, my guess is it doesnt' have any networks | 01:12 |
vishy | well first issue is nova-dhcpbridge isn't getting the proper db | 01:14 |
vishy | nova.sqlite is in the dir where test is run? | 01:16 |
vishy | i think i see the prob | 01:16 |
eday | it's in the root project dir | 01:16 |
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eday | so yeah | 01:16 |
vishy | is there a way to make it just run the network tests? | 01:17 |
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vishy | eday: fixed http://pastie.org/1384439 | 01:18 |
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eday | ahh, awesome. thanks | 01:19 |
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vishy | can we please make the nosetest output look sexy. It makes me want to claw my eyes out after our current version. | 01:23 |
eday | hmm | 01:25 |
eday | not sure how, that magic was from twisted, which I'm trying to remove entirely :) | 01:25 |
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vishy | eday: btw that line will probably have to change if you want nosetests to run from somewhere other than a checkout | 01:26 |
vishy | my guess is that ../ from nova-dhcpbridge is not where the db will be in a running system | 01:26 |
eday | I'm trying to make it work like it does now first, then we can work on actually making them more self contained | 01:28 |
eday | ok, I'm done for the day | 01:32 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #691388 in swift "Devauth allows anybody to create underpriviledged accounts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691388 | 02:36 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #691463 in nova "Tests require a running rabbitmq" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691463 | 09:31 |
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olivier_ | Hi all | 10:20 |
olivier_ | I've still a problem with swift: I Can't add a user | 10:26 |
olivier_ | larstobi: Are you online ? | 10:27 |
larstobi | yes | 10:28 |
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larstobi | olivier_: are you getting any new error messages, though? | 10:29 |
olivier_ | Do you have time for helping me to fix my configuration file ? | 10:29 |
larstobi | sure | 10:29 |
olivier_ | still the same: http://paste.openbsd-france.org/?show=f30d5fda | 10:29 |
olivier_ | I've added the # | 10:31 |
olivier_ | [auth] section on the proxy-conf file | 10:31 |
olivier_ | But still the same error message | 10:31 |
larstobi | olivier_: hmm, are you mixing up 127.0.0.1 with 10.1.1.10 in there? | 10:32 |
larstobi | what is your auth-server.conf like? | 10:32 |
olivier_ | the last lines of the paste show the auth-server.conf | 10:33 |
larstobi | right,sorry, didn't see that :) | 10:35 |
larstobi | okay, would you mind making a paste of "SELECT * FROM account WHERE user = 'toto';" in sqlite3 /etc/sqift/auth.db ? | 10:36 |
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olivier_ | there is nothing | 10:44 |
larstobi | then that's your problem | 10:44 |
larstobi | what's the ip-address you're using for the ring-builder "add" command? | 10:44 |
larstobi | do you have any output if you do "SELECT * FROM account;" ? | 10:45 |
olivier_ | swift-ring-builder account.builder add z1-1.1.1.1:6002/dev/sdb1 100 | 10:45 |
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olivier_ | nothing whith your last command too | 10:46 |
olivier_ | but I've got a no empty auth.db file | 10:46 |
larstobi | should it not be 1.1.1.10 for the IP address in your ring-builder command? | 10:47 |
olivier_ | I've put the IP of each of my storage node | 10:48 |
larstobi | okay, so I assume it's correct | 10:48 |
olivier_ | I didn't use the IP of my proxy/auth server in the ring-builder | 10:49 |
larstobi | okay, I think that's correct | 10:49 |
larstobi | what's the permissions of your auth.db file? is it owned by the correct user? | 10:50 |
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larstobi | i.e. swift | 10:50 |
olivier_ | yes | 10:50 |
larstobi | ok | 10:50 |
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larstobi | and I don't think line 5 should be that IP-address (localhost) but instead 1.1.1.10, so I believe something is wrong there as well. | 10:52 |
larstobi | is there anything in your /srv/ or /mnt/sdb1/ folders? | 10:53 |
larstobi | any .db or .data files? | 10:53 |
olivier_ | on the storage node ? | 10:59 |
larstobi | yes | 10:59 |
larstobi | specifically the account-server's storage | 11:00 |
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olivier_ | There is no files | 11:04 |
olivier_ | I've checked all my 3 storage nodes | 11:05 |
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olivier_ | larstobi: There is no files on my 3 storages nodes | 11:16 |
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larstobi | olivier_: okay | 11:46 |
larstobi | olivier_: I can't really find anything wrong with your config files. You should ask creiht for some further assistance when he gets on. | 11:47 |
olivier_ | how can I troubleshoot ? no debug mode ? | 11:59 |
larstobi | not that I know other than putting log_level = DEBUG in the config files, and starting the various servers directly in the console instead of via swift-init | 12:03 |
olivier_ | ok, I will try that | 12:03 |
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larstobi | olivier_: also, I would definitely try to use the code in trunk | 12:09 |
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alekibango | please, nova-core people, there is 21 merge requests now, and its growing... | 12:39 |
ttx | alekibango: we have a few key branches to land first, otherwise they will be delayed forever | 12:41 |
alekibango | i know :) | 12:41 |
ttx | also you should expect a slowdown in review over the next two weeks :) | 12:41 |
alekibango | my one is pretty small and easy | 12:42 |
alekibango | i hope | 12:42 |
alekibango | ttx: nova was not workign when my system was configured to use non-english language as default | 12:43 |
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alekibango | so i use english defaults now on servers, but still this patch is needed | 12:43 |
ttx | alekibango: i saw that | 12:43 |
alekibango | ok | 12:43 |
alekibango | hopefully i covered all places where it can do problems | 12:44 |
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kakoni | creiht: hi! I've got a question regarding hardrives;) how much are you "optimizing" on the hdd layer? I mean sas vs sata, 2.5 vs 3.5, 15k vs 10k and so on... | 13:58 |
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notmyname | kakoni: I can try to answer that | 14:24 |
notmyname | kakoni: our concern is $/GB. everything else pales in comaprison to that | 14:25 |
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notmyname | the system works around failures, so as long as the hdd basically does what it's supposed to do, swift can handle the cheapest drives you can find | 14:27 |
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patri0t | notmyname: I have some problems with networking, can you help me | 14:31 |
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sandywalsh | so, I guess we're not concerned with database migrations at this point? | 14:32 |
notmyname | patri0t: I can try :-) | 14:32 |
sandywalsh | (i.e. South, or something) | 14:32 |
patri0t | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/316/ | 14:33 |
patri0t | notmyname: Ive a cloud controller, and a single worker | 14:34 |
notmyname | patri0t: that's going to be something with nova. I don't know much about that | 14:34 |
patri0t | notmyname: yepp nova exactly | 14:34 |
notmyname | I'm a swift dev | 14:34 |
patri0t | notmyname: thanks :) | 14:34 |
patri0t | anyone else has any idea about the problem? | 14:35 |
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sandywalsh | patri0t, sorry, I haven't dug into the networking stuff yet. | 14:41 |
patri0t | sandywalsh: Good so we can dig it together ;), but vishy should know the answer, not here now | 14:42 |
sandywalsh | sure! what's the issue? | 14:43 |
patri0t | sandywalsh: http://paste.openstack.org/show/316/ | 14:43 |
patri0t | sandywalsh: I can not connect to the instance which is running on the other node | 14:44 |
sandywalsh | flat or vlan? | 14:44 |
patri0t | FlatDHCP | 14:44 |
patri0t | and nodes are not connect to same switch | 14:45 |
sandywalsh | openstack-1 & -2 are the instances or the hosts? | 14:46 |
patri0t | hosts | 14:46 |
sandywalsh | runningpriv (myproj, openstack-4) | 14:47 |
zul | so for the eventlet changes you should be able to just run nova-combined right? | 14:47 |
sandywalsh | what's openstack-4? | 14:47 |
sandywalsh | zul, you need to run nova-objectstore the old way for now | 14:48 |
zul | k | 14:48 |
sandywalsh | zul, and nova-combined for the rest | 14:48 |
patri0t | sandywalsh: host1: openstack-1(CLC), host2: openstack-4(NC) | 14:48 |
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sandywalsh | patri0t, I'm no networking guy by a long shot, so bear with me. How does br100 map to eth0 on each host? Is it a direct bridging? | 14:51 |
patri0t | sandywalsh: what do you mean by direct bridging? | 14:52 |
sandywalsh | patri0t, s/direct// ... is br100 bridged to eth0 (no nat, etc.) | 14:53 |
patri0t | sandywalsh: yepp | 14:53 |
sandywalsh | patri0t, if you console into each instance what does the network config look like there? | 14:54 |
sandywalsh | patri0t, I'm guessing something in conflicting where both hosts are using the same ip address ... but that should affect it since their eth0's are different. | 14:55 |
sandywalsh | s/in/is/ | 14:55 |
sandywalsh | s/should/shouldn't/ | 14:56 |
sandywalsh | heh, early | 14:56 |
patri0t | sandywalsh: the one which is working fine, of course has the right output http://paste.openstack.org/show/317/ | 14:57 |
patri0t | sandywalsh: but the other one, just sending "Sending Discover" | 14:57 |
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patri0t | sandywalsh: I dont understand but it has the IP address already, from what euca-describe-intance claims | 14:58 |
sandywalsh | patri0t, right, but that could be just an allocation from the free-pool. (again, not sure how it works under the hood yet) | 14:59 |
sandywalsh | patri0t, perhaps the last-mile setup failed | 14:59 |
sandywalsh | patri0t, I'm assuming the ip-address shown from the api is just a cached value from the database. | 15:00 |
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sandywalsh | patri0t, what's ifconfig report on both instances? | 15:02 |
sandywalsh | patri0t, or netstat -t | 15:03 |
sandywalsh | sorry netstat -r | 15:03 |
antonym | patri0t: where are you connecting to 192.168.13.11 from? | 15:03 |
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antonym | patri0t: just wondering if you can even communicate with 192.168.13.20 when you're on node 2 | 15:04 |
patri0t | antonym: no I can not connect to it even when Im in the same node | 15:05 |
antonym | but you can connect to .11 fine ? | 15:05 |
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patri0t | antonym: not from the second node | 15:06 |
patri0t | I believe there is a problem with bridging | 15:06 |
antonym | patri0t: but it works from the first? | 15:07 |
patri0t | antonym: yepp | 15:07 |
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antonym | patri0t: what does you're 'brctl show' show on both? | 15:07 |
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patri0t | antonym: http://paste.openstack.org/show/318/ | 15:09 |
antonym | patri0t: wondering if virbr0 is causing probs | 15:11 |
patri0t | antonym: hmmm, not sure | 15:11 |
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patri0t | antonym: ok Ill disable it lets see what happen | 15:12 |
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patri0t | do you know simple way to force an instance to run on an specific host? | 15:25 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #691584 in swift "proxy should not use iter_nodes to fetch objects" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691584 | 15:26 |
antonym | turn off the compute node on the host you don't want the vm to be provisioned to? | 15:28 |
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creiht | kakoni: Yeah pretty much what notmyname said, you want to balance price/desired performance/power usage | 15:34 |
sandywalsh | thanks antonym ... this was beyond my scope. | 15:34 |
alekibango | hmm when i create network using nova-manage network create, how can i check what was actually created? by looking into db only? there should be some nova-manage network list | 15:35 |
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patri0t | antonym: no change, still not working | 15:39 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #691598 in nova "Metadata service queries fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691598 | 16:11 |
jaypipes | eday, soren: all tests pass and all merged with eventlet/trunk... https://code.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/nova/i18n-strings/+merge/43436 | 16:13 |
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annegentle | hee. nothin' like a preschoolful of singing kids to bring on the merry | 16:35 |
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dendrobates | I don't love the way I did it, but I needed something. I created a template for proposals. | 16:35 |
dendrobates | ah, I agree. | 16:35 |
dendrobates | I listen to preschoolers singing everyday. My girls sometimes sing entire conversations to each other, ala wonderpets | 16:37 |
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annegentle | lol | 16:40 |
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alekibango | heh... did you ever notice that all kids can sing, but when they got mature, almost none can sing? Kids are not scared to tell the world what they feel... | 17:12 |
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iRTermite | alekibango: inhibition is learned not genetic. heh | 17:14 |
alekibango | maybe thats good. most sing horribly... :) | 17:16 |
iRTermite | lawlz | 17:17 |
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dabo | bzr question: I still have a git mindset: I commit often locally, and then squash when I merge. Is there an equivalent process I should follow in bzr? | 17:19 |
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creiht | dabo: commit locally, then push to your personal branch | 17:24 |
creiht | the final merge by hudson is more or less a squash into trunk | 17:25 |
dabo | creiht: I pushed to my personal branch, and then discovered some pep8 issues, which I fixed locally. I didn't want to clog the log with all these trivial commits | 17:26 |
creiht | the log will really only show in your local branch | 17:26 |
dabo | creiht: ah, good to know. I'd hate to mess up the logs for trunk | 17:26 |
jk0 | yeah, you have to actually put in a new commit message when proposing a merge | 17:26 |
creiht | when it gets merged, the whole changeset shows up as one item in the regular bzr log | 17:26 |
dabo | jk0: what are you doing here? Go shovel some snow or whatever it is you do on your days off | 17:27 |
jk0 | hah, did that last night :P | 17:27 |
dabo | Can anyone review this merge proposal? It removes redis dependency from fakeldap. https://code.launchpad.net/~ed-leafe/nova/remove-redis/+merge/44074 | 17:30 |
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alekibango | dabo: this is wrong day for such requests, they have 3 big ones rolling in and 19 others (my included) | 17:32 |
JordanRinke | I heard we were all in here singing songs? | 17:32 |
dabo | alekibango: np, just thought I'd throw it out there | 17:33 |
alekibango | "if we had some global warming" is fitting song right now when we are -10 here in middle of europe... | 17:33 |
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BK_man | morning all! Is docs for networking in Nova is latest? http://nova.openstack.org/adminguide/network.vlan.html | 18:14 |
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alekibango | BK_man: do you mean if those docs are valid? | 18:19 |
alekibango | for latest nova sources...? | 18:19 |
BK_man | alekibango: yep. I'm trying now to bring up multi-server installtion on RHEL and understand nova networking concepts | 18:20 |
alekibango | BK_man: there is more of us | 18:20 |
BK_man | alekibango: code is always latest (1-2 days old) | 18:20 |
alekibango | i am also fighting with multinode install... | 18:21 |
alekibango | annegentle: networking concepts <-- imho thats hot keyword here | 18:21 |
annegentle | BK_man: based on this week's merges I'm not sure of its accuracy so you may also want to check http://nova.openstack.org/devref/network.html#module-nova.network.manager | 18:21 |
alekibango | concepts... | 18:21 |
annegentle | conceptually, they are accurate, imho | 18:22 |
alekibango | annegentle: there is lots of itemlisting in docs, but concepts are not described much | 18:23 |
annegentle | also see http://nova.openstack.org/adminguide/network.flat.html | 18:23 |
BK_man | annegentle: thanks, Anne! | 18:23 |
annegentle | http://nova.openstack.org/adminguide/network.vlan.html is nearly all concepts | 18:23 |
BK_man | do I NEED an Internet connectivity or Intranet is OK? | 18:24 |
BK_man | Our blades from Cisco lab can see only several hosts in Internet - by our request. Not whole Internet access | 18:25 |
annegentle | BK_man: Hmm... dubsquared1 or JordanRinke, any thoughts? | 18:25 |
BK_man | I can setup NTP and DNS - that's OK | 18:25 |
alekibango | BK_man: imho thats enough | 18:26 |
BK_man | And our blades have two network interfaces - public to VPN (I'm accessing through it) and private - just our VLAN | 18:26 |
BK_man | alekibango: ok. My private addresses are 10.0.0.0/24 for blades. Should I create a networks in nova using the same range or it could be different (like 192.168.0.0/24)? | 18:27 |
alekibango | i have 2 interfaces, 1 for instances, one is internal... | 18:27 |
alekibango | BK_man: if you will not want to manually hack ip ranges | 18:28 |
alekibango | rather do different addresses | 18:28 |
alekibango | its best to have whole (sub)networks for nova | 18:28 |
alekibango | or take 10.0.1.0/24 for nova | 18:29 |
BK_man | Ok. I probably need to read thoroughly last link which Anne sent rather than pushing questions here :) | 18:29 |
alekibango | i will too now | 18:30 |
alekibango | but note there are 3 ways of managing networks | 18:30 |
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BK_man | where can I download a CloudPipe instance? | 18:59 |
vishy | BK_man: you'll have to make one | 19:00 |
vishy | BK_man: also you'll want to use my project-vpns branch if you actually want it to work | 19:01 |
BK_man | vishy: so, is it unmerged to trunk? | 19:02 |
BK_man | vishy: can I have several nova-network nodes in cluster? For redundancy/network balancing, etc... | 19:04 |
vishy | BK_man: yes for balancing | 19:06 |
vishy | BK_man: each project gets associated with one node | 19:06 |
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BK_man | vishy: how? round-robin/? | 19:07 |
BK_man | vishy: what's algorithm used? | 19:07 |
vishy | BK_man: right now it is just first to respond | 19:09 |
vishy | BK_man: the plan was to add a bit of logic to the scheduler to support different versions | 19:09 |
BK_man | vishy: do you need help on that effort (adding features)? | 19:10 |
vishy | BK_man: the scheduler needs to be modified slightly to allow scheduling 'call' instead of just 'cast' so that set_network_host can go through the scheduler | 19:10 |
vishy | BK_man: it shouldn't be too difficult, but I would hold off unless you need it right away, since a lot of that stuff is moving into compute and there will be other logic for setting network host | 19:12 |
vishy | and they may not all go through the scheduler | 19:12 |
BK_man | vishy: I just need to bring it up on several nodes (at least two) | 19:13 |
vishy | the addition to support call in the scheduler will probably be useful regardless though, if you feel like tackling it. | 19:13 |
vishy | BK_man: it should be fine, worst case you can actually specify the node you want it to use when you create the project | 19:13 |
vishy | it isn't redundant though | 19:13 |
iammartian | is the nova.sh script still supposed to "just work" i just built a fresh ubuntu 10.04 server and the script seems to be missing a few things - python-tornado, gflags, etc | 19:13 |
vishy | some kind of failover will probably be needed | 19:14 |
vishy | iammartian: yes it should just work | 19:14 |
iammartian | hmm | 19:14 |
iammartian | ok | 19:14 |
vishy | iammartian: which one are you using? | 19:14 |
iammartian | vishy: https://github.com/vishvananda/novascript/raw/master/nova.sh | 19:15 |
iammartian | E: Couldn't find package python-tornado | 19:15 |
vishy | python-gflags is in there | 19:16 |
vishy | we don't have a dependency on python-tornado any more | 19:16 |
iammartian | ok | 19:17 |
iammartian | the script still tries to install it | 19:17 |
vishy | really? | 19:18 |
iammartian | maybe some path issues - none of the module are loading: ImportError: No module named eventlet | 19:18 |
vishy | ah interesting | 19:18 |
vishy | it seems like the ppa didn't get added properly | 19:19 |
iammartian | or at least eventlet isnt in each of the 7 screens | 19:19 |
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iammartian | does eventlet come with nova, or is that a package i need to install? | 19:20 |
vishy | python-eventlet | 19:20 |
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vishy | iammartian thanks for the info, removing python tornado | 19:20 |
iammartian | ok no prob | 19:21 |
iammartian | also, eventlet oinstall fine, but for soem reaon the script didnt | 19:21 |
iammartian | sorry, bad typist | 19:21 |
iammartian | python-eventlet installed from apt fine | 19:21 |
vishy | iammartian maybe because python-tornado failed | 19:22 |
vishy | odd that it failed though | 19:22 |
iammartian | maybe so | 19:22 |
iammartian | also this on running nova.sh run: ImportError: No module named IPy | 19:23 |
vishy | somehow everything failed | 19:24 |
iammartian | yeah, installing manually | 19:25 |
vishy | remove python-tornado and rerun nova.sh install | 19:25 |
iammartian | ok | 19:25 |
vishy | never seen it fail like that | 19:25 |
iammartian | in 10.04 tornado isnt available in apt repo, so the rest of the line fails i guess | 19:27 |
iammartian | yeah that was it, removed the python-tornado and gflags and ipy installed fine | 19:29 |
iammartian | woot! up and running! | 19:29 |
vishy | cool | 19:29 |
vishy | i updated nova.sh | 19:29 |
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iammartian | in screen 6, got a volume error: nova.exception.Error: volume group nova-volumes doesn't exist | 19:30 |
vishy | iammartian: that is expected, check the README in novascript | 19:30 |
iammartian | ok thanks | 19:31 |
vishy | for how to set up volumes | 19:31 |
vishy | but you can use the system without them just fine | 19:31 |
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vishy | I have a few branches out that need reviewing, if anyone has time | 20:01 |
bobl | hi. I'm browsing nova source in launchpad. I click on view the branch content for lp:nova, that goes fine. As I drill down, sometimes the files come back empty, sometimes I'm getting a 502. I can see from the filesize that it shouldn't be empty. Are there known service issues? The misses seem intermitent ... | 20:02 |
vishy | bobl: sorry, I haven't really browsed using lp, so I don't know | 20:02 |
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bobl | vishy: thanks. I'll take a branch if it persists ... | 20:08 |
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soren | vishy: Did you take a stab at fixing the packaging at all? | 20:26 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #691704 in nova "auth_unittests tries to skip some tests, but unittest doesn't support that" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691704 | 20:32 |
soren | dabo: re: https://code.launchpad.net/~ed-leafe/nova/remove-redis/+merge/44074 If you could add yourself to Authors, I'll approve straight away. | 20:32 |
comstud | i think dabo's gone the rest of the afternoon (CST time) | 20:33 |
comstud | or well, i know he is | 20:33 |
comstud | (fyi :) | 20:33 |
soren | Darnit. | 20:34 |
soren | comstud: Thanks, though! | 20:34 |
comstud | np | 20:34 |
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soren | vishy: I've created upstart jobs for all the workers now. | 20:58 |
soren | vishy: ...but I don't see any output on stdout like you said? | 20:58 |
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soren | meh | 21:13 |
soren | I've pushed my upstart changes to the packaging branch. Once dabo's remove-redis branch lands, we should have working packages again. | 21:14 |
soren | No logging from the eventlet workers, though. I'm sure someone can tell me how to fix that. | 21:14 |
jbryce | soren: would you like for me to push an Authors patch to include ed so we can get the remove-redis branch in? | 21:15 |
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jaypipes | eday: maybe it's the holidays, but I think I'm getting dumber. :( Pushed the i18n-strings branch to the i18n branch by mistake... corrected. i18n-strings should now have all the merge conflicts resolved. Sorry for all the mess on this one. :( | 21:24 |
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eday | jaypipes: hehe, no worries :) | 21:27 |
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Ryan_Lane | I'm looking at ways to store ssh keys in LDAP, and would like to run some ideas through you guys. | 21:30 |
Ryan_Lane | I'd prefer to keep the schema simple, and stick with one that already exists, which would be the openssh-lpk schema | 21:30 |
Ryan_Lane | but that schema adds the keys as an attribute of the user. this means you can't add keyname or fingerprint | 21:30 |
Ryan_Lane | I was thinking of storing the keys as RFC 4716 format, and adding those fields as x- private headers | 21:31 |
jeremyb | schema link? | 21:31 |
Ryan_Lane | openssh seems to dislike RFC 4716 format though | 21:31 |
jeremyb | (i'm still behind on scrollback elsewhere) | 21:32 |
Ryan_Lane | http://openssh-lpk.googlecode.com/files/openssh-lpk_openldap.schema | 21:32 |
Ryan_Lane | I think the way it handles it is correct. separate objects for keys is a PITA. it means you need to clean them up when you delete users | 21:33 |
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jeremyb | do you ever delete users? | 21:34 |
Ryan_Lane | also, keyname is easy enough, even as a comment for a key. fingerprint can be generated dynamicaly if needed | 21:34 |
Ryan_Lane | yes | 21:34 |
jeremyb | or just mark them as obsolete? | 21:34 |
Ryan_Lane | delete them, in nova | 21:34 |
Ryan_Lane | in the mediawiki extension, probably just an indefinite block | 21:34 |
jeremyb | well, ldap, do you normally delete users? e.g. svn.wm.o | 21:35 |
jeremyb | err, that's not a complete sentence | 21:35 |
Ryan_Lane | no. but this is something I'm going to be adding to openstack ;) | 21:35 |
Ryan_Lane | then I can just use the API to add/import keys and everyone wins \o/ | 21:36 |
jeremyb | yeah. i just don't like the idea of deleting them | 21:36 |
jeremyb | but whatever | 21:36 |
Ryan_Lane | it's part of the API, so it needs to be supported :) | 21:37 |
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Ryan_Lane | either way, less custom schema is always preferable | 21:38 |
Ryan_Lane | vishy: have any thoughts on the above? | 21:38 |
Ryan_Lane | I could store the keys in RFC 4716 format, and convert them to openssh format when pulling them from LDAP | 21:38 |
Ryan_Lane | that's expensive, but it should only occur when instances are created, right? | 21:39 |
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eday | Ryan_Lane: yeah, only pulled to inject into instances on launch | 21:43 |
Ryan_Lane | so would that be an acceptable method? | 21:43 |
eday | Ryan_Lane: would the keys pairs be generic enough to use for other services? or would it be nova specific in any way? | 21:44 |
Ryan_Lane | totally generic | 21:44 |
eday | I'd say go for it | 21:44 |
Ryan_Lane | it'll have private use headers, but that doesn't cause problems for others | 21:44 |
eday | it's a resource that seems generic enough to be part of the auth layer, and not something for nova-specific data | 21:45 |
Ryan_Lane | yeah | 21:45 |
Ryan_Lane | in fact, I plan on using it on vms without nova injecting them | 21:45 |
eday | cool | 21:45 |
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Ryan_Lane | great. I'll make a branch for this | 21:46 |
soren | jbryce: I'm on holiday, so not in any particular hurry :) | 21:46 |
jbryce | if this https://code.launchpad.net/~jbryce/nova/ed-leafe-authors-update/+merge/44107 (Authors file update) gets merged then ed's remove-redis branch can land and we can have working packages before the weekend and the terrorists won't win. | 21:46 |
Ryan_Lane | I'll reuse vishy's code from before it was removed :) | 21:46 |
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vishy | Ryan_Lane: seems fine as long as the conversion is trivial | 21:46 |
Ryan_Lane | ssh-keygen does it | 21:47 |
jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: what's MANDATORY? does it do anything? | 21:47 |
eday | Ryan_Lane: let me know when its ready, and I can convert the auth API to include it there (and move the dbdriver to use those methods) | 21:47 |
Ryan_Lane | eday: great. thanks | 21:47 |
Ryan_Lane | jeremyb: in regards to? | 21:47 |
eday | Ryan_Lane: but I'm thinking of adding methods to nova.auth.manager.User, something like user.add_key_pair, user.list_key_pairs, ... | 21:48 |
jbryce | soren: understandable--although you sure seem to spend a lot of your holiday in irc = ) | 21:48 |
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jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: your link, http://openssh-lpk.googlecode.com/files/openssh-lpk_openldap.schema | 21:48 |
eday | Ryan_Lane: and those will call {ldap,db}driver.<same method name> | 21:48 |
jeremyb | i guess maybe i need to learn ldap | 21:48 |
vishy | eday: I have been trying to remove all methods from user and project | 21:48 |
Ryan_Lane | gah | 21:48 |
vishy | eday: and just use the AuthManager | 21:48 |
soren | jbryce: I'm clearly not very good at it :) | 21:49 |
Ryan_Lane | jeremyb: that's funny | 21:49 |
Ryan_Lane | jeremyb: it's just in the description | 21:49 |
Ryan_Lane | but apparently, it's saying you must put an openssh key in it | 21:49 |
Ryan_Lane | lemme see if there's an rfc for it | 21:49 |
eday | vishy: just curious, why is that? why funnel everything back through another class (for project and user methods)? Seems like a strange relationship :) | 21:50 |
Ryan_Lane | eday: cool. do you have a branch for this? | 21:50 |
Ryan_Lane | jeremyb: from the LDAP POV, that MANDATORY stuff means nothing | 21:50 |
eday | Ryan_Lane: nope, nothing yet. the main reason because if I created those, ldap would break since it doesn't have the methods :) | 21:50 |
Ryan_Lane | heh | 21:50 |
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eday | the dbdriver would work fine | 21:50 |
vishy | eday: thin models fat managers | 21:51 |
jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: yeah, i was wondering if it's enforced | 21:52 |
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soren | jaypipes: hudson is stuck merging a branch of yours http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova-tarmac/44490/console | 21:52 |
Ryan_Lane | jeremyb: nope. but it's a problem | 21:53 |
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Ryan_Lane | jeremyb: it means people will expect the attribute to only contain openssh keys. not rfc 4716 ones. | 21:53 |
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jeremyb | oh, right | 21:54 |
eday | vishy: yeah, but why? Keep in mind I'm coming from the c/c++ world where you usully don't use such magic and follow stricter hierarchies :) | 21:54 |
soren | jaypipes: I'm going to kill it. I doubt it'll ever move on. | 21:54 |
Ryan_Lane | I can do this with openssh keys, but they'll need to be welformed | 21:54 |
Ryan_Lane | <key-type> <key> <key-name> | 21:55 |
eday | vishy: my instinct would be to just have user and project objects, and not even have a manager class | 21:55 |
Ryan_Lane | fingerprint can be generated on demand using md5 hexadecimal output | 21:55 |
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jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: why do we care what format it is? | 21:56 |
Ryan_Lane | that makes importing already generated keys more difficult, as you'd need to parse it | 21:56 |
jeremyb | why not just use the openssh one? | 21:56 |
Ryan_Lane | importing already generated keys :) | 21:56 |
Ryan_Lane | which is in the EC2 api, but not supported in nova, yes | 21:57 |
Ryan_Lane | err | 21:57 |
termie | vishy: headed over | 21:57 |
Ryan_Lane | yet | 21:57 |
termie | vishy: please have gate open :) | 21:57 |
vishy | eday: it was a decision that we went back and forth about | 21:57 |
vishy | eday: it doesn't matter to me I just like consistency | 21:57 |
Ryan_Lane | adding import_keys to the api was the next branch I was going to make | 21:57 |
jeremyb | are you going to have more than one format in the same field in the same LDAP? | 21:58 |
jeremyb | e.g. different format per user | 21:59 |
Ryan_Lane | you really can't, so I shouldn't stick RFC 4716 keys in there :( | 21:59 |
eday | vishy: yeah, will definitely keep it consistent. Just curious of the reasons that made you decide that way | 21:59 |
* Ryan_Lane sighs | 21:59 | |
vishy | eday: flat heirarchies are generally easier to understand | 21:59 |
jeremyb | so, why not just convert to whatever you've standardized on during the import? | 21:59 |
vishy | eday: so you don't have to go searching through nested objects to find the methods you are looking for | 22:00 |
Ryan_Lane | because the keys may be used for non-nova things | 22:00 |
Ryan_Lane | and keys may be imported by non-nova things | 22:00 |
eday | vishy: ahh, ok. I guess I'm used to creating complex hierarchires, especially in C++ world :) | 22:00 |
vishy | eday: although there seems to be a lot more on the side of oo these days | 22:00 |
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jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: so, you're saying nova and other things both write directly to ldap? | 22:03 |
Ryan_Lane | yep | 22:03 |
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jeremyb | Ryan_Lane: so, for the foundation at least, i'd think it'd be fine to limit key additions to a single interface. no? is there already more than one interface? | 22:12 |
* jeremyb just went to look at [[wikitech:ldap]] and found you were the dominant author :-) | 22:13 | |
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Ryan_Lane | if there was a blame feature, you'd notice I'm really the only author :) | 22:14 |
jeremyb | shakata did a typo fix and tim added the password recovery part | 22:15 |
Ryan_Lane | heh | 22:15 |
Ryan_Lane | ah. true | 22:15 |
JordanRinke | question I am asking around to get an opinion, if you all don't mind: #poll What type of instructions/tutorials do you prefer? http://twtpoll.com/51wggi | 22:16 |
jk0 | wikis :) | 22:17 |
jk0 | an man pages! | 22:18 |
jk0 | *and | 22:18 |
JordanRinke | So that is Text+Picture then | 22:18 |
annegentle | heh | 22:18 |
spectorclan | JordanRinke: I voted | 22:19 |
JordanRinke | annegentle: heh? | 22:20 |
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annegentle | at the "wikis" enthusiasm. it just tickled me for some reason. | 22:25 |
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JordanRinke | annegentle: do you know if there is anything to take a gorgeously formatted word doc, and convert it to a wiki tagged format? | 22:35 |
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* jk0 thinks annegentle should start writing all of our docs in LaTeX | 22:37 | |
jk0 | :D | 22:37 |
jk0 | j/k | 22:37 |
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Ryan_Lane|away | JordanRinke: if you guys were using MediaWiki, Microsoft has plugin for MediaWiki markup exporting. ;) | 22:41 |
jeremyb | Ryan_Lane|away: MS wrote it? | 22:42 |
jeremyb | the wikibabel ppl? | 22:42 |
JordanRinke | One of the only reasons I like Sharepoint Wiki's is because they allows doc importing, although everything else about them sucks | 22:42 |
JordanRinke | at least in 2007, I guess in the 2010 version they were improved greatly. | 22:43 |
JordanRinke | it wouldn't be so bad if I didn't use so many screen shots / examples etc but that is what makes a good doc (to me) | 22:44 |
Ryan_Lane|away | jeremyb: microsoft wrote it | 22:44 |
jeremyb | Ryan_Lane|away: i think we talked about wikibabel (briefly) with rhandler, danese, jimmy the night before the fundraiser | 22:45 |
Ryan_Lane|away | yeah, that's something else though :) | 22:46 |
kim0 | when I run the test suite "python run_tests.py" I get no output at all .. is this normal ? | 22:46 |
Ryan_Lane|away | that's a mediawiki extension for translation | 22:46 |
jeremyb | no, i'm thinking of something else | 22:46 |
Ryan_Lane|away | what I'm talking about is a microsoft word plugin that exports to mediawiki | 22:46 |
* jeremyb looks | 22:46 | |
jk0 | kim0: that should be fixed in trunk now, but in the mean time, installing python-redis will fix that | 22:46 |
Ryan_Lane|away | anyway, we're off topic :) | 22:46 |
kim0 | jk0: thanks :) fixed | 22:49 |
kim0 | Is there a list of needed/missing test cases | 22:50 |
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BK_man_ | vishy: why not to check existence of volume for nova-volume using vgscan command instead of looking into /dev/%s ? | 22:56 |
vishy | cuz! | 22:56 |
vishy | BK_man: it used to do it that way, but there was an issue with it hanging | 22:57 |
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BK_man_ | vishy: what kind of issue? | 22:58 |
* vishy is trying to remember | 22:59 | |
vishy | oh yes | 22:59 |
vishy | vgscan closes all open file descriptors | 22:59 |
vishy | which was causing weird issues | 22:59 |
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vishy | On invocation, lvm requires that only the standard file descriptors stdin, stdout | 23:01 |
vishy | and stderr are available. If others are found, they get closed and messages | 23:01 |
vishy | are issued warning about the leak. | 23:01 |
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vishy | the vgscan was running at a time when the twisted code had a fd open. It may be perfectly fine now that we've removed twisted | 23:02 |
vishy | BK_man_: you're welcome to try changing it and verify that it works. Keep in mind to error out if vgscan isn't installed as well. | 23:03 |
* vishy has 5 outstanding branches in need of review here: https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova | 23:04 | |
BK_man_ | vishy: oh... it's packaging issue I think. deb/rpms should have proper deps for this | 23:04 |
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openstackhudson | Yippie, build fixed! | 23:52 |
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