| alekibango | btw vishy, how is the relase of the web management console going? | 00:04 |
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| vishy | alekibango: it will be out before the end of the current sprint the 30th | 02:34 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #692491 in swift "/swift/common/utils.py >> whatremyips' output dependent on system locale" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692491 | 09:56 |
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| DigitalFlux | Hi Guys | 10:35 |
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| DigitalFlux | I am installed nova on a one-node installation using novascript | 10:35 |
| DigitalFlux | I guess it's using SQLite for the cloud metadata | 10:35 |
| DigitalFlux | Any hints where can i find the db file ?!, i searched for it everywhere but couldn't find it | 10:35 |
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| zykes- | anyone know if there's any enterprise support / support planned for OpenStakc ? | 12:16 |
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| PiotrSikora | zykes-: MidoriStack (http://www.midokura.jp/midostack.html) is OpenStack-based product with commercial support | 12:19 |
| PiotrSikora | MidoStack* | 12:19 |
| fabiand | zykes-: in what region, emea? | 12:19 |
| ttx | zykes-: by Ubuntu 12.04 LTS I suspect Canonical will provide support for OpenStack. | 12:23 |
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| zykes- | yeah | 12:24 |
| zykes- | ttx: that's a long time until that :/ | 12:25 |
| ttx | zykes-: could move to Ubuntu main before that, though (like 11.10) | 12:25 |
| zykes- | by support, you then mean bugs etc ? | 12:26 |
| zykes- | like aka vmware support stuff | 12:27 |
| zykes- | ttx: any news on emea events ? | 12:27 |
| ttx | zykes-: yes, I mean bugs | 12:28 |
| ttx | zykes-: we'll be at FOSDEM in Brussels in February | 12:28 |
| ttx | zykes-: and there should be some meetup in Europe this summer | 12:29 |
| zykes- | looking forward to a web control panel | 12:30 |
| zykes- | for it : | 12:30 |
| ttx | might get this for bexar: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bexar-django-nova-ui | 12:30 |
| zykes- | is that the nasa one or ? | 12:31 |
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| ttx | yes | 12:31 |
| zykes- | ok | 12:31 |
| zykes- | i guess Mido is more pay stuff | 12:31 |
| zykes- | then Nasa's | 12:31 |
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| spectorclan | Anyone out there also on openstack-operators mailing list? We got a question from a user who trys to launch an image but gets pending status | 14:33 |
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| dabo | spectorclan: I'm not on it, but you might suggest having them run "euca-reboot-instances <instanceID>". I've noticed that the status gets stuck in 'pending' after creation, even though it's really OK. | 14:53 |
| spectorclan | dabo: thanks | 14:54 |
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| jaypipes | *yawn* | 15:07 |
| dabo | morning, jaypipes! | 15:07 |
| jaypipes | dabo: morning, buddy :) | 15:08 |
| jaypipes | dabo: how are things up in Rochester? | 15:08 |
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| dabo | cold, snowy... what else? | 15:08 |
| jaypipes | dabo: it's friggin *cold* here.. | 15:08 |
| jaypipes | dabo: tru nuf. | 15:08 |
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| dabo | jaypipes: http://leafe.com/tmp/weather1220.png | 15:10 |
| jaypipes | dabo: heh, almost identical to cbus... | 15:10 |
| jaypipes | dabo: luckily, this is what it'll be like on Friday for me: http://www.wunderground.com/US/FL/Sarasota.html | 15:11 |
| dabo | jaypipes: I'll take a warm xmas over a white xmas anyday! | 15:11 |
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| jaypipes | dabo: :) | 15:12 |
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| jaypipes | ttx, soren, eday, anyone!: https://code.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/nova/i18n-strings/+merge/44128 should be ready to review (yet again...) | 15:16 |
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| ttx | dendrobates: ^ | 15:20 |
| * ttx looks | 15:20 | |
| dendrobates | looking | 15:20 |
| ttx | jaypipes: approved, but I'm not nova-core. | 15:22 |
| dabo | jaypipes: where is the _() defined? | 15:22 |
| alekibango | i would think you should move this fast, as merge requests are piling up | 15:22 |
| jaypipes | dabo: all endpoints have _() installe din the builtins when gettext.install() is called. | 15:23 |
| alekibango | it looks like openstack merging process is not scalable enough :DD | 15:23 |
| jaypipes | alekibango: hehe, true :) | 15:23 |
| jaypipes | dabo: that work has already been merged last week... | 15:23 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: approved | 15:24 |
| dabo | jaypipes: ah. didn't realize that | 15:24 |
| dabo | jaypipes: I guess I missed that merge | 15:24 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: cheers | 15:25 |
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| jbryce | dabo, jaypipes: if you need to thaw out, it's supposed to be 70 here today | 15:34 |
| dabo | jbryce: lotta good that does me! :) | 15:34 |
| jaypipes | jbryce: ooooh, that's low. :P | 15:35 |
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| notmyname | it's official! the large objects branch was just merged! swift now support unlimited sized objects | 15:43 |
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| dendrobates | woohoo! | 15:43 |
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| sirp1 | notmyname: grats, that's awesome | 15:44 |
| notmyname | gholt is the one who wrote it. he gets all the credit | 15:44 |
| dendrobates | jbryce: I thought I replied to your last email, but it seems I didn't send it. I am free for the POC meeting anytime. | 15:44 |
| dabo | notmyname: great work, you and gholt! | 15:45 |
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| dendrobates | I think we need to publish some standards on how to do a code review and what is necessary to be approved. | 16:02 |
| gholt | Was my code that bad? :P | 16:03 |
| dendrobates | I'm actually suggesting we let in buggier code. :) | 16:03 |
| dendrobates | as long as it doesn't regress current functionality and complies with coding standards. | 16:04 |
| dendrobates | than several people can work to fix bugs ni the merged code not just the branch owner. | 16:04 |
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| dendrobates | I understand that this might be arguable, but I think we have a merge roadblock that is too big and we end up waiting on the original author to have time to fix minor bugs that anyone could easily fix | 16:06 |
| dendrobates | as an example, we have a bug in raw-disk-images that only affects using a diskimage via the ec2 api. It doesn't break existing functionality | 16:08 |
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| dendrobates | Soren is on christmas vacation, I say that we should merge it, while it still merges cleanly and then fix the bug. | 16:08 |
| dendrobates | anyone agree, or disagree? | 16:09 |
| jk0 | I like that idea | 16:09 |
| jk0 | it's a real pain having to wait days sometimes for an author to fix little things | 16:09 |
| jk0 | especially if it's a branch that holds up an entire blueprint | 16:10 |
| jaypipes | sirp1: heya, this is what I was going to add to the Glance docs for "adding an image": http://pastie.org/1392313. Let me know what you think... | 16:10 |
| jaypipes | sirp1: all part of my "write docs before coding" thing.... | 16:10 |
| sirp1 | jaypipes: *looking now* | 16:11 |
| jaypipes | sirp1: cheers :) | 16:11 |
| * jaypipes waits eagerly for i18n to merge... | 16:12 | |
| dendrobates | jk0: part of the problem is that we feel the original author owns the code until it is merged, we need to speed up group ownership | 16:12 |
| hazmat | dendrobates, assuming bug where filed, it seems reasonable, but if there not filed prior to merge, whose to say they don't get lost in the mix. | 16:13 |
| dendrobates | hazmat: I think they would need to be filed as a part of the merge by the reviewer that found them | 16:14 |
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| dendrobates | I meant to say as a part of the review process | 16:15 |
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| dendrobates | I'll send it to the ml | 16:17 |
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| eday | dendrobates: Well, I would say anyone can branch the authors proposed merge, fix it, and re-propose then. It's nice keeping trunk clean in case you are ever doing historical bug hunting/regression testing | 16:45 |
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| jaypipes | soren, ttx, dendrobates: seems we are stuck :( http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova-tarmac/45260/console | 16:49 |
| dendrobates | eday: that would create even more merge proposals | 16:49 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: I don;t have hudson magic, it needs to be Soren or mtaylor | 16:49 |
| jaypipes | eday: do you have hudson magic? :) | 16:50 |
| eday | dendrobates: Well the original will go away (I think), or we could just remove the original | 16:51 |
| eday | jaypipes: possibly, what do you need? | 16:51 |
| eday | I have limited hudson magic (web based, not backend) | 16:52 |
| dendrobates | eday: It woudl be manual, but we would lose all the comments and approvals. The merge would start from scratch | 16:52 |
| jaypipes | eday: check out hudson tarmac builder...seems stuck to me :( | 16:53 |
| jaypipes | eday: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova-tarmac/45260/console | 16:53 |
| dendrobates | basically we don;t have bug free code why set an unachievable standard of bug free merges. Merges should not break existing features == no regressions | 16:53 |
| openstackhudson | Project nova-tarmac build #45,260: ABORTED in 1 hr 26 min: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova-tarmac/45260/ | 16:54 |
| eday | jaypipes: killed | 16:55 |
| eday | jaypipes: santa calra hyatt in april, but not for mysql conf this time :) | 16:56 |
| jaypipes | eday: yeah, I noted :( | 16:57 |
| jk0 | just saw that tweet, I've been waiting a long time for an excuse to visit CA again :D | 16:57 |
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| jaypipes | jk0: unfortunately for me...I've been to the Santa Clara Hyatt every year since 2005 for the MySQL conference...and actually chaired the conference 2 years. :( Would be great to see other places! | 16:58 |
| jk0 | hah, yeah, I could see how that might be getting old | 16:58 |
| dubs | you could always go visit jk0, i hear the weather there is great this time of year | 16:58 |
| jk0 | we could always have one in Wisconsin :D | 16:59 |
| jaypipes | heh. | 16:59 |
| spectorclan | jaypipes: We looked at over 20 locations and only they had room for us | 16:59 |
| jk0 | it's a balmy 10F | 16:59 |
| jaypipes | spectorclan: hehe, no worries mate :) I'll make do! | 16:59 |
| jaypipes | spectorclan: as someone who's gone through the ringer with conference organizing, I know you're pain... | 16:59 |
| spectorclan | jaypipes: i put forth lots of effort and the other finalist was way cool - hayes mansion in san jose; we lost out at last minute. disappointing | 17:00 |
| jaypipes | spectorclan: you can never please everyone! | 17:00 |
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| spectorclan | jaypipes: yes, but buckeyes come first | 17:00 |
| jaypipes | spectorclan: and there are certainly worse places to be in April than Santa Clara :) | 17:00 |
| spectorclan | open to all ideas for developer party - thinking of dave and busters near there | 17:01 |
| jk0 | yeah, especially since Fiesta del Mar is only a short drive from there | 17:01 |
| spectorclan | Which location? http://www.fiestadelmar.com/ | 17:04 |
| jk0 | Fiesta del Mar Too | 17:05 |
| jk0 | haven't been to the one on Shoreline | 17:05 |
| spectorclan | 200 Tequilas - wow, will need a bus for everyone | 17:05 |
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| spectorclan | jk0: on the list for possible party location;will contact them for space, etc | 17:06 |
| jk0 | the magaritas are pretty amazing, but the enjococado is to die for | 17:06 |
| jk0 | awesome! :) | 17:06 |
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| dendrobates | jaypipes: can you review this: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/raw-disk-images/+merge/43712 | 17:16 |
| dendrobates | Since salvatore has fixed the only outstanding issue in his branch, I think we are good to go | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: yup. | 17:18 |
| jbryce | dendrobates: i know i'm a little late, but i'm in favor of approving non-regressing merges with bugs filed. the orphaned branch problem is only going to increase | 17:18 |
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| dendrobates | jbryce: awesome. I am going to present it to the ml list for comment. | 17:22 |
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| alekibango | if Michael Gundlach is not here, who is the right person to talk about limiting resources now? | 17:33 |
| dendrobates | alekibango: anyone who will listen :) | 17:33 |
| alekibango | heh ty, i will need to talk to someone in near future... | 17:34 |
| zykes- | dendrobates: any reason for Michael left ? | 17:34 |
| vishvananda | dendrobates: I'm fine with quicker merges as well. The backlog is huge. | 17:34 |
| vishvananda | Mostly I think we just need more people reviewing. | 17:34 |
| alekibango | if you talk about merges, some projects requre to include user/admin/devel documentation for added/edited features to be in the same merge... | 17:36 |
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| alekibango | it might help a lot here, as openstack is really fast moving target and docs are having hard time catching up with the code | 17:36 |
| alekibango | s/openstack/nova/ | 17:36 |
| alekibango | (cant talk about swift) | 17:36 |
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| dendrobates | vishvananda: I am writing up a proposal to add more core devs for the POC meeting. | 17:37 |
| annegentle | gundlach was an advocate for code reviews requiring a certain level of documentation | 17:37 |
| alekibango | i think some reasonable policy should be set... its very hard for docs writers to dig up what the code actually does | 17:38 |
| annegentle | not sure how far we got with code review reqs, but I think it's generally a good idea for everyone in the project to have expectations for doc being present when committing code | 17:38 |
| dendrobates | annegentle: I am writing up a recommendation today, I'll include a doc requirement | 17:39 |
| alekibango | :) | 17:39 |
| annegentle | dendrobates: excellent, thanks! | 17:39 |
| alekibango | zykes-: i heard personal reasons... but i dont know any details | 17:40 |
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| tr3buchet | just saw a comment on a merge proposal saying that spaces around docstring quotes (the triple double quote) are not pep8, is this true? | 17:48 |
| tr3buchet | i've just read the pep8 and not found it | 17:48 |
| jk0 | it's true | 17:48 |
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| jk0 | try it in a file and run pep8 on it | 17:49 |
| tr3buchet | such a strange requirement | 17:51 |
| jk0 | I think it's valid, otherwise you'd have to strip the extra whitespaces out whenever calling the __doc__ on something | 17:52 |
| tr3buchet | yep that makes sense | 17:53 |
| tr3buchet | just looks odd since they require a space after the octothorpe when making comments | 17:55 |
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| tr3buchet | hi aleki! | 17:56 |
| jk0 | nova-corez, could you please look this over? https://code.launchpad.net/~jk0/nova/diagnostics-per-instance/+merge/44251 | 18:01 |
| alekibango | jk0: interesting | 18:03 |
| vishy | jk0: a little explanation? You are going to scrape data from hypervisor and store it? | 18:10 |
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| jk0 | vishy: yeah, we need to be able to gather that information and look back on it | 18:10 |
| jk0 | it's for this BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/diagnostics-per-instance | 18:11 |
| vishy | jk0: this ultimately needs to be a message passed back from compute | 18:13 |
| vishy | jk0: I'm not convinced that we want that stuff in a database long term | 18:14 |
| vishy | jk0: but i suppose it can go in there initially | 18:14 |
| jk0 | I'd have to rethink how we'd do that | 18:15 |
| vishy | jk0: eday is working on that piece for the distributed data model | 18:16 |
| jk0 | do you think we should hold off on this until that is in place? | 18:16 |
| jk0 | or would it make sense to keep going and refactor later on | 18:17 |
| vishy | jk0: just make sure that it is easy to pass the relevant data as a message, since we're trying to stop computes from writing directly to the database. | 18:17 |
| vishy | (copying this into the comment) | 18:17 |
| jk0 | ok | 18:17 |
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| jk0 | thanks vishy | 18:20 |
| eday | vishy, jk0: Hmm, this might be a good opportunity to figure out how/where we want to store that data. FOr example, introducing some APIs to toss events out such as this | 18:25 |
| eday | since this is not required data to make the system function, I worry about putting it in the DB, as it starts us down that path | 18:26 |
| jk0 | where else could we put it? | 18:27 |
| eday | jk0: so, this is one of the topics we've talked about before, stats/log collection form the system, which is different from the core db | 18:28 |
| eday | ideas were discussed around having a generic event system, and you can tap into that feed and store wherever you like (relational DB, cassandra, hadooop, ...) | 18:29 |
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| jk0 | so this is getting much bigger than I thought :) | 18:30 |
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| jk0 | has there been any work done on the event system yet, or is it still an idea? | 18:30 |
| jk0 | I'm wondering if this could be done for Bexar | 18:31 |
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| eday | it's still an idea, but this is the first work thats come along suited for it | 18:33 |
| jk0 | hm | 18:37 |
| vishy | zykes-: You can contact us at anso for commercial support | 18:40 |
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| vishy | dendrobates: I'm marking soren's branch for approve unless anyone has last minute reservations | 18:46 |
| sandywalsh | ttx around? | 18:48 |
| vishy | bleh there is a pep8 error | 18:48 |
| jaypipes | vishy, dendrobates: want me to make that little pep8 fixup on raw-disk-images and push? | 18:49 |
| vishy | jaypipes: we could just review and merge salvatore's branch | 18:50 |
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| vishy | since it includes soren's stuff | 18:50 |
| vishy | jaypipes: we could have him propose with soren's as a prereq so we can see the smaller diff | 18:51 |
| jaypipes | vishy: the pep8 will keep it from merging in Tarmac...that's why I mentioned it. | 18:51 |
| tr3buchet | i am somehow not on the nova mailing list and try as i might i can't find where in launchpad to subscribe | 18:52 |
| vishy | jaypipes: right but the pep8 is fixed in salvatore's branch | 18:53 |
| eday | tr3buchet: launchpad.net/~openstack, there is no nova list anymore | 18:53 |
| tr3buchet | ah ok, that makes sense then | 18:54 |
| jaypipes | ttx: around? I think that the glance trunk branch is f*cked up... | 18:54 |
| jaypipes | vishy: ah, ok, then yeah, go with salvatores branch. :) | 18:54 |
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| dendrobates | jaypipes: sure | 18:58 |
| jaypipes | ttx: nm. fixed things on glance trunk... looks like a recent branch wasn't merged properly... | 19:01 |
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| patri0t | Do you know, how can I have compute workers which are not connected to a same switch | 19:10 |
| dendrobates | so we should merge sorens branch first and then review the diff for salvatore's right? | 19:11 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: I'll fix soren's pep* error and merge. IIUC Salvatore's branch is dependant on sorens | 19:15 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: check with vishy | 19:16 |
| dendrobates | actually let's merge it and then i'll fix the pep8 to preserve the merge proposal comments | 19:16 |
| dendrobates | vishy: ? | 19:16 |
| eday | dendrobates: we can't merge pep8 violations, tarmac rejects it | 19:16 |
| dendrobates | ahhh | 19:17 |
| tr3buchet | can someone take a look at merging https://code.launchpad.net/~sandy-walsh/nova/xs_pause/+merge/43694 | 19:18 |
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| sandywalsh | dendrobates, rumor has it there is an over-arching network bp in the works. Any hints? (Couldn't find anything obvious in the bp list) | 19:21 |
| dendrobates | sandywalsh: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bexar-network-service | 19:24 |
| dendrobates | I pinged soren on raw-disk-images he will take a look in a littel bit. That is simpler than creating a new branch and re-proposing | 19:25 |
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| dabo | tr3buchet: sandywalsh: there are a couple of niggling pep8 errors | 19:27 |
| dabo | tr3buchet: sandywalsh: ^^ in https://code.launchpad.net/~sandy-walsh/nova/xs_pause/+merge/43694 | 19:27 |
| sandywalsh | dabo, I cleaned up all the pep8 complaints in the stuff we touched. Anything specific? | 19:31 |
| dabo | sandywalsh: Here's what I get: http://paste.openstack.org/show/321/ | 19:32 |
| sandywalsh | hrm ... | 19:33 |
| tr3buchet | that is quite niggly | 19:33 |
| sandywalsh | <fixing> very odd ... I pep8'ed clean previously. | 19:34 |
| dabo | tr3buchet: agreed. Just didn't want tarmac to bitch about it when you merged. | 19:36 |
| soren | dendrobates: fixed, pushed. | 19:38 |
| soren | dendrobates: If you wait anohter 3 minutes, I can fix the other thing that Salvatore pointed out (not respecting the nokernel thing). | 19:38 |
| soren | Do you still need someone with Hudson power? | 19:39 |
| eday | sandywalsh: you have pep8 0.6.1 installed? | 19:39 |
| soren | dendrobates: In fact, I won't bother. I'd fix it exactly how Salvatore implemented it, so we can just leave it for when his branch gets merged. | 19:43 |
| sandywalsh | eday, nope, good catch. It's the default ubuntu release, which seems to be painfully old. | 19:43 |
| soren | sandywalsh: The updated one is in the PPA. | 19:43 |
| eday | sandywalsh: in the ppa there is an updated package | 19:43 |
| soren | Along with every other dependency you might need. | 19:43 |
| sandywalsh | soren, eday thanks | 19:43 |
| eday | heh | 19:43 |
| soren | vishy, jaypipes, dendrobates: PEP8 thing fixed. Approve at will: https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/raw-disk-images/+merge/43712 | 19:46 |
| * soren wanders off again | 19:48 | |
| sandywalsh | pep8 fixed (again :/ ) ... anyone? https://code.launchpad.net/~sandy-walsh/nova/xs_pause/+merge/43694 | 19:49 |
| sandywalsh | dendrobates, thanks ... looking | 19:49 |
| dabo | sandywalsh: I already gave my approval | 19:49 |
| sandywalsh | dabo, thanks | 19:51 |
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| dendrobates | eday: what do we have to do to get hudson to run https://code.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/nova/i18n-strings/+merge/44128 again? | 20:09 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: no idea. it's hung twice now. :( | 20:10 |
| dendrobates | mtaylor: save us! | 20:10 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: unfortunately, there's no log output from nova_test.sh on hudson :( | 20:10 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #692716 in nova "In FlatDHCP network mode, ip shouldn't be added to bridge on compute hosts" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/692716 | 20:11 |
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| eday | dendrobates: yeah, I'm not sure.. would need to look at the hudson machine itself to see where it is hanging, which I don't have access to | 20:13 |
| dendrobates | me neither and soren has left again. | 20:13 |
| vishy | i have access to hudson i think, but no sudo | 20:14 |
| vishy | if i can remember the ip | 20:14 |
| * vishy now has seven (7) outstanding merge proposals | 20:15 | |
| soren | <a workaholic appears> | 20:15 |
| soren | I'll take a peek. | 20:15 |
| soren | At the hudson thing. | 20:15 |
| soren | vishy: Not your mp's. Sorry. | 20:15 |
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| dendrobates | yea | 20:16 |
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| vishy | soren is only pretending to be on vacation | 20:16 |
| vishy | :) | 20:16 |
| soren | hudson 1583 99.9 2.7 121292 56360 ? R 16:59 200:30 python run_tests.py | 20:16 |
| soren | Thta's probably not good. | 20:16 |
| * soren kills it. | 20:16 | |
| vishy | 99.9! | 20:16 |
| dendrobates | that's some intense testing | 20:17 |
| soren | It's Jay's i18n branch doing it. It did it last time, too. | 20:17 |
| dendrobates | it seems to hang at test_create_instance_associates_security_group on my machine | 20:18 |
| soren | Killed. | 20:20 |
| soren | sorry, got distracted. | 20:20 |
| dendrobates | i18n seems to break a lot of our tests | 20:20 |
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| vishy | hudson needs Cheetah as well | 20:26 |
| soren | Already fixed. | 20:27 |
| vishy | for your branch to merge | 20:27 |
| soren | Try to keep up. | 20:27 |
| vishy | ah ok | 20:27 |
| soren | :) | 20:27 |
| soren | :p | 20:27 |
| soren | I also took the liberty of reapproving the merge. | 20:27 |
| vishy | ch34t3r! | 20:28 |
| soren | ...and I didn't feel dirty at all :) | 20:28 |
| vishy | while you're on vacation, no less | 20:28 |
| soren | Indeed. | 20:29 |
| alekibango | soren: when you will get back to work? | 20:29 |
| alekibango | :) | 20:29 |
| openstackhudson | Project nova build #311: SUCCESS in 1 min 13 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/311/ | 20:29 |
| soren | alekibango: When I get bored. | 20:29 |
| alekibango | was about to ask about lastest ppa trunk packages, are they useable? | 20:30 |
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| alekibango | and if not, which nova bzr version should work well with your packaging scripts? | 20:30 |
| alekibango | lots of things happened this week and it will be even more fun now :) | 20:30 |
| vishy | patri0t got flatdhcp working on multiple hosts with only one interface! | 20:31 |
| * vishy does a jig. | 20:31 | |
| alekibango | patri0t: congrats! | 20:31 |
| alekibango | patri0t: can i see your flagfile,please? :) | 20:31 |
| patri0t | alekibango: really congrats, | 20:32 |
| patri0t | which one, worker/controller? | 20:32 |
| alekibango | i know how you feel, believe me :) | 20:32 |
| alekibango | yesterday was my day | 20:32 |
| alekibango | (different network, multiple interfaces, etc) | 20:32 |
| patri0t | tomorrow I will try to build everything again from scratch, a clean deployment hope so | 20:33 |
| alekibango | i am using fai-project.org | 20:33 |
| alekibango | on debian (but it can also install ubuntu) | 20:34 |
| alekibango | patri0t: if you would like to do it that way, ask me | 20:34 |
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| patri0t | alekibango: of course in close future it would be really useful | 20:35 |
| alekibango | patri0t: i plan releasing my configs when i will make it stable and nice | 20:35 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: alright, I have absolutely no idea what is going on with i18n-strings :( | 20:36 |
| eday | different locale settings on hudson box? | 20:36 |
| eday | should obviously not be a factor, but you never know if you can't reproduce | 20:37 |
| patri0t | alekibango: that is a nice idea, but more important than configs/flags, is the procedure itself (wiki/etherpad) | 20:37 |
| annegentle | patri0t: would love to have your procedure up on the wiki! | 20:38 |
| alekibango | yes or on etherpad | 20:38 |
| alekibango | patri0t: please do | 20:38 |
| alekibango | there are still parts that are not 100% done | 20:38 |
| alekibango | patri0t: do you use nova-volume? how? | 20:39 |
| alekibango | which version of nova? | 20:39 |
| patri0t | alekibango: 2011.1~bzr430-0ubuntu0ppa1~lucid1, without nova | 20:39 |
| patri0t | s/nova/volume | 20:39 |
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| alekibango | i am ~bzr447 on squeeze | 20:40 |
| ttx | jaypipes: ok | 20:41 |
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| jaypipes | soren: I realize the i18n-strings is breaking, but I don't know how it is breaking... I don't see any output from hudson in the test run :( | 20:44 |
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| sandywalsh | lp seems a little twitchy today | 20:49 |
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| * vishy chuckles at the irony of soren failing his own authors check test | 20:52 | |
| annegentle | does anyone have time to merge in some doc changes? It'll give us a new install script in /contrib | 20:57 |
| annegentle | https://code.launchpad.net/~annegentle/nova/newscript is the merge request | 20:57 |
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| annegentle | heh. I like how Rick went afk immediately after that :) | 20:58 |
| annegentle | I'm working on a blog post about the awesome work going on and I'd like to talk about the new install script if the merge can be fast, if not, that's ok too. | 20:59 |
| vishy | nifty | 21:06 |
| vishy | RIP nova.sh? | 21:07 |
| vishy | we have a lot of concurrent work going on in deploy scripts | 21:07 |
| alekibango | still its not for debian, DEB_OS can be only ubuntu | 21:07 |
| alekibango | annegentle: dont worry i will fix that when the wave of merges will be over and trunk ppa will be stable | 21:07 |
| alekibango | it works for me :) | 21:07 |
| alekibango | with little patch | 21:08 |
| alekibango | (really small one) | 21:08 |
| annegentle | vishy: probably not killing off nova.sh, more helping people who want to deploy in production | 21:09 |
| vishy | gotcha | 21:09 |
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| annegentle | it's all thanks to dubsquared, I'm just a lowly tester and merge proposer :) | 21:09 |
| vishy | anyone feel like proposing a merge for adding soren's other address to authors so we can merge raw-disk-images? | 21:09 |
| eday | I think we'll want to add to .mailmap, not Authors | 21:10 |
| alekibango | annegentle: contains great examples still missing on wiki | 21:10 |
| alekibango | imho there is no mention of euca-authorize on wiki etc | 21:11 |
| gholt | mtaylor: I dunno what this means, but that build is locked atm: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/swift-debian/99/console | 21:11 |
| gholt | Apparently, it's been locked for about a week. | 21:12 |
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| alekibango | btw nova created br100 for me, in docs there is written that i should configure that in system... when i had br100 before nova, i got problems.... | 21:31 |
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| vishy | alekibango: it doesn't configure br100 in FlatManager | 21:33 |
| alekibango | aha... | 21:33 |
| vishy | and some custom br100 is needed for FlatDHCP on multiple hosts | 21:33 |
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| alekibango | i will prolly go flatDHCP | 21:34 |
| alekibango | in future... | 21:34 |
| vishy | vlan mode needs no setup on the host, but vlans need to be enabled on switch | 21:35 |
| alekibango | this belongs to the wiki... i will edit it | 21:36 |
| annegentle | alekibango: thanks for doing that | 21:39 |
| alekibango | it kinds of is written there, but it was not clean enough | 21:40 |
| tr3buchet | guys i have a bzr question. I made a merge and bzr MANGLED the code, trying to combine separate functions into one function etc. How do I get back to where I was before i merged, and what's the best way to get this to work...? | 21:40 |
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| nelson__ | annegentle: Hi. I'm trying to find out if swift will let me read just part of a file. | 21:44 |
| nelson__ | annegentle: I tried searching in the swift documentation for "seek", "range" and "content-range" but didn't find anything. | 21:44 |
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| nelson__ | annegentle: I suspect that the ability exists; can you suggest a name for which I should be searching the documentation? | 21:45 |
| nelson__ | ^name^keyword | 21:45 |
| uvirtbot | nelson__: Error: "name^keyword" is not a valid command. | 21:45 |
| nelson__ | uvirtbot: you are a dip. | 21:45 |
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| uvirtbot | nelson__: Error: "you" is not a valid command. | 21:45 |
| jeremyb | hah | 21:46 |
| nelson__ | asked and answered! | 21:46 |
| annegentle | nelson__: hee. that was fun. Let me check - and maybe notmyname will have an answer quicker than me. | 21:46 |
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| notmyname | nelson__: swift supports range requests | 21:47 |
| nelson__ | notmyname: kewl. using the Content-Range: header or something less obvious? | 21:47 |
| * jeremyb assumes that's for reads only in order to enforce immutability | 21:47 | |
| notmyname | nelson__: standard HTTP stuff. the only restriction is that we don't support multiple ranges in one request (the RFC mentions it) | 21:48 |
| notmyname | nelson__: so for curl, use the standard -r option. for other things, the Range header is what's used | 21:49 |
| nelson__ | I don't suppose ... no, it's not a wiki. /me looks appealingly at annegentle. | 21:49 |
| notmyname | nelson__: I think Content-Range is for the response | 21:49 |
| nelson__ | ja, didn't find it by searching for "range" either. | 21:50 |
| notmyname | nelson__: I don't think it's something that is mentioned a lot because it's never been a "new" feature. it's been there since the beginning | 21:50 |
| nelson__ | Okay, I'll go fill in THAT checkbox and go looking for other empty boxes in the OpenStack column. :) | 21:50 |
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| annegentle | nelson__: yeah, swift.openstack.org is built using Sphinx, but you're right, I'm not seeing "range" mentioned on the site, notmyname I would suppose it's in the dev guide | 21:51 |
| jeremyb | nelson__: i think it's in bzr... :) | 21:51 |
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| notmyname | ya, I think it's in the dev guide (I hope) | 21:51 |
| nelson__ | well one would HOPE it's in the source since it's not a translatable string! | 21:51 |
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| * jeremyb meant the docs themselves | 21:52 | |
| notmyname | I know it's in there, cause I had to submit a patch to webob to get it to work! | 21:52 |
| nelson__ | OIC | 21:52 |
| nelson__ | I always think of that as we-bob, as in bobbing for apples. | 21:52 |
| notmyname | nelson__: but, the string "range" may not be there because we offload some of that to webob (which uses things like an app_iter method) | 21:52 |
| nelson__ | good to know, thanks. | 21:53 |
| soren | vishy: Darn it. | 21:53 |
| soren | vishy: Yeah, the problem is that I run the tests, see that everything is fine and /then/ commit, push, propose. | 21:54 |
| notmyname | nelson__: "curl -i -r 50-100 -H "X-Auth-Token: foobar" http://some.storage.url/acount/contianer/object_with_100_bytes" will give you 51 bytes of the object | 21:54 |
| notmyname | translate to your httplib of choice | 21:54 |
| nelson__ | neat. yeah, squid or more likely varnish. | 21:55 |
| annegentle | oo we should include that as a curl example in the dev guide | 21:55 |
| notmyname | -H "Range: bytes=50-100" works too | 21:55 |
| vishy | remind me: is the merge requirement 2 reviews including 1 core dev or 2 core dev reviews? | 21:56 |
| soren | vishy: 2 core dev, I believe. | 21:58 |
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| vishy | ok, waiting on the newscript branch for the moment then | 21:59 |
| tr3buchet | i need a bzr pro | 22:02 |
| soren | tr3buchet: What's up? | 22:02 |
| tr3buchet | perfect | 22:02 |
| tr3buchet | backstory: pause has been merged to trunk | 22:02 |
| tr3buchet | before that i branched trunk and made a suspend branch | 22:02 |
| soren | Ok. | 22:03 |
| soren | mtaylor: ping? | 22:03 |
| tr3buchet | i'm now trying to merge trunk into my suspend branch | 22:03 |
| soren | Ok. | 22:03 |
| tr3buchet | and i get horrendous conflicts ex http://pastie.org/1393356 | 22:03 |
| tr3buchet | is there a way to solve this without copy/pasting the code manually from one branch to the other? | 22:03 |
| soren | Try "bzr merge --weave" | 22:04 |
| openstackhudson | Project nova build #312: SUCCESS in 1 min 15 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/312/ | 22:04 |
| soren | If that doesn't work, no. It's not really a bzr problem. The two branches make different changes to the same lines. Any vcs or patch management system would throw a fit. I'd be surprised even if "bzr merge --weave" manages it. | 22:05 |
| tr3buchet | so bzr is unable to merge properly if two branches both add a function to the end of a file? | 22:06 |
| soren | tr3buchet: The simplest way forward (if weave doesn't do the trick) would probably be to do a "bzr resolve --other <filename>" and then doing the copy/paste thing. That saves you the trouble of fixing all the merge artifacts. | 22:06 |
| soren | tr3buchet: You're probably getting the worst of it because the two change sets are so similar. | 22:07 |
| jaypipes | yeah \o/ raw-disk-images merged... | 22:07 |
| vishy | wh00t! | 22:07 |
| * vishy cheers. | 22:07 | |
| soren | tr3buchet: Any luck with "bzr merge --weave" ? | 22:08 |
| tr3buchet | there were conflicts, looking now | 22:09 |
| * soren screams | 22:10 | |
| soren | -rwxr-x--- 1 hudson adm 26338 Sep 15 17:08 /usr/lib/python2.6/os.py | 22:10 |
| soren | -rwxr-x--- 1 hudson adm 26303 Dec 7 17:20 /usr/lib/python2.6/os.pyc | 22:10 |
| tr3buchet | fail! | 22:10 |
| tr3buchet | weave made no difference | 22:10 |
| alekibango | life is hard :) | 22:10 |
| alekibango | tr3buchet: iam no bzr guru, but cant you go back? | 22:11 |
| tr3buchet | yeah i can bzr revert | 22:11 |
| tr3buchet | that doesn't help me get to where i'm going | 22:11 |
| soren | You did that in between the two merge attempts, right? | 22:11 |
| tr3buchet | yes | 22:11 |
| soren | Ok. | 22:11 |
| soren | As I said, you're getting the worst of it because the change sets are so similar. | 22:11 |
| alekibango | i still need to learn this one. i am still more in love with git | 22:12 |
| soren | if they'd be vastly different, it would still show the conflicts, but it wouldn't be 20 small chunks, but just two big ones. | 22:12 |
| tr3buchet | is there a "bzr merge --keep-all-source-from-both-branches" ? | 22:12 |
| soren | tr3buchet: That doesn't make sense. | 22:12 |
| soren | That's the point. | 22:12 |
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| soren | If I make a change to a file, and you make another change to the same file on the same line, which is correct? | 22:12 |
| tr3buchet | oh i see your point | 22:13 |
| soren | If you can write an algorithm that can work that out, you're in the wrong business. | 22:13 |
| tr3buchet | i think what i was after is keeping the most recent patch from both | 22:13 |
| soren | Simplest way forward: | 22:13 |
| soren | 22:06 <+soren> tr3buchet: The simplest way forward (if weave doesn't do the trick) would probably be to do a "bzr resolve --other <filename>" and then doing the copy/paste thing. That saves you the trouble of fixing all the merge artifacts. | 22:13 |
| alekibango | +1 | 22:14 |
| soren | "bzr resolve --other" basically assumes "the other" branch is correct. | 22:14 |
| tr3buchet | either way i have to copy paste | 22:14 |
| soren | Which makes it dead simple for you to just manually add your new stuff at the end. | 22:14 |
| soren | Yeah. | 22:14 |
| soren | the difference is wheter you have to fiddle with 20 small chunks of stuff or two big ones. | 22:14 |
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| tr3buchet | i mean if that's what i have to do, that's fine, it's just a lot of files | 22:14 |
| soren | tr3buchet: There are a couple other merge algorithms you can try first. | 22:16 |
| soren | --diff3 --lca and --merge3. | 22:16 |
| soren | Still, I doubt it'll work. | 22:16 |
| tr3buchet | i'm going to create a suspend2 branch from trunk, then i'm going to take a diff of all the changes i added to the current suspend branch and create a patch out of it and apply that patch to suspend2 | 22:21 |
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| alekibango | vishy: how is the web console release going? | 22:27 |
| tr3buchet | anyhow, thanks soren | 22:27 |
| alekibango | tr3buchet: kdiff3 is sweet | 22:27 |
| vishy | alekibango: in progress | 22:28 |
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| alekibango | vishy: :) ty | 22:28 |
| vishy | alekibango: it will be out by the end of our current sprint (dec 30th) | 22:28 |
| vishy | (or sooner) | 22:28 |
| alekibango | oh date! :) thanks a lot | 22:28 |
| soren | tr3buchet: It won't apply. | 22:29 |
| tr3buchet | EFF! | 22:30 |
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| soren | mtaylor: Do you have any clue why hudson would own a bunch of stuff in /usr/lib/python2.6 | 22:31 |
| soren | ? | 22:31 |
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| soren | jaypipes: I'm terribly sorry, but the raw-disk branch conflicts with your i18n-strings branch | 22:34 |
| tr3buchet | holy crap | 22:35 |
| tr3buchet | so you know what works | 22:35 |
| soren | What works? | 22:35 |
| tr3buchet | creating the second branch from trunk, making a diff of my original and applying it to the second as a patch | 22:36 |
| tr3buchet | there was a single 4 line rejection. easy fix the other 9 files worked just fine | 22:36 |
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| tr3buchet | that makes my day | 22:38 |
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| alekibango | when i reboot my nova node, running instances are not running anymore... even if euca-describe-instances shows them as running | 22:57 |
| alekibango | shouldnt they start automatically? | 22:58 |
| tr3buchet | the instance state won't be changed unless something calls for it to be | 22:59 |
| tr3buchet | issue a reboot | 22:59 |
| tr3buchet | for the instances i mean | 22:59 |
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| alekibango | yes ic | 23:00 |
| alekibango | ty | 23:00 |
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| nelson__ | another question: is there load balancing within a partition? | 23:02 |
| nelson__ | can't find the question anywhere in the documentation. | 23:03 |
| alekibango | nelson__: what do you mean? | 23:03 |
| nelson__ | a partition has multiple copies of a file. how does swift determine which one to hand out? | 23:03 |
| alekibango | ah swift :) | 23:04 |
| alekibango | i dont know swift much | 23:04 |
| notmyname | nelson__: the partition is chosen based on the hash of the URL | 23:05 |
| notmyname | for GETs, we ask all 3 copies and return the first response | 23:05 |
| notmyname | for PUTs, we write to each copy simultaneously | 23:05 |
| notmyname | GETs are simultaneous too | 23:05 |
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| vishy | alekibango: there is no code for recovering from reboot | 23:05 |
| nelson__ | oh, so the presumption is that the least-loaded host will return a response fastest? | 23:06 |
| notmyname | PUTs respond with success after at least 2 copies have reported success | 23:06 |
| alekibango | why? | 23:06 |
| notmyname | ya | 23:06 |
| vishy | alekibango: euca-reboot-instances should work | 23:06 |
| vishy | alekibango: no one has written it | 23:06 |
| alekibango | ok | 23:06 |
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| vishy | alekibango: actually reboot probably won't work, I had to change a few things in deploy to make it work | 23:06 |
| * vishy marks down another patch he needs to submit | 23:07 | |
| alekibango | vishy: :( it fails, instance keeps being shutdown | 23:07 |
| nelson__ | kewl, thanks. | 23:07 |
| nelson__ | MogileFS does the same thing | 23:07 |
| alekibango | at least it doesnt report 'running' anymore' | 23:07 |
| nelson__ | actually ... it returns all three, but puts the first one that responded first in the list. | 23:08 |
| vishy | alekibango: yes i remember that there is an issue with a few things like recreating the network | 23:09 |
| vishy | alekibango: i'll port stuff from deploy when i get a chance | 23:09 |
| alekibango | i can test | 23:09 |
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| alekibango | actually, your ssh key is still there, so you can test too whenever you wish -- just let me know over irc that you are doing something.... | 23:11 |
| alekibango | if you do.. | 23:11 |
| alekibango | hmm maybe i could patch it myself if you will give some hints | 23:11 |
| alekibango | rebooting is important feature :D | 23:12 |
| alekibango | i would think, after reboot - local nova-compute should check what instances should run on it and reboot them | 23:12 |
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| tr3buchet | it would be better to get the list of images, and make the call to update the state | 23:17 |
| tr3buchet | what if some of them were shutdown for a reason, you'd be restarting those as well | 23:17 |
| alekibango | list of instances | 23:18 |
| alekibango | yes thats what i meant | 23:18 |
| alekibango | 'check waht instances should run' | 23:18 |
| alekibango | vishy: do you want me to write bug report on the reboot? | 23:19 |
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| tr3buchet | funky error trying to start nova-compute: http://pastie.org/1393586 | 23:26 |
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| vishy | alekibango: I think soren has one for the host reboot/recovery | 23:30 |
| alekibango | :) | 23:30 |
| vishy | alekibango: but you could put one in for the euca-reboot-instances not working | 23:31 |
| vishy | on a crashed / non-running instance | 23:31 |
| alekibango | it works, but instance keeps being shutdown | 23:31 |
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| jordandev | please can i have confirmation about this information? and thanks in advance | 23:37 |
| jordandev | RabbitMQ is the AMQP broker? (in actual version and for the futur release) | 23:38 |
| jordandev | carrot is the AMQP producer + consumer (in actual version and for the futur release) | 23:38 |
| jordandev | ?* | 23:39 |
| jordandev | :) | 23:39 |
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| tr3buchet | ok "bzr branch lp:nova/trunk nova" and then attempting to run nova-compute is giving me http://pastie.org/1393586 | 23:40 |
| eday | jordandev: correct on both, for the time being | 23:42 |
| jordandev | good | 23:42 |
| jordandev | and what about tornadoweb as web server? | 23:42 |
| eday | tornado is gone | 23:43 |
| eday | twisted is mostly gone, we're using eventlet + wsgi apps now | 23:43 |
| Xenith | Why the switch away from tornado/twisted? | 23:44 |
| dabo | tr3buchet: are you running as root? Did you create and source novarc? | 23:44 |
| jordandev | +1 for Xenith's question | 23:45 |
| alekibango | Xenith: tornado cannot serve large files | 23:45 |
| dabo | Xenith: we used twisted for concurrency handling; eventlet does that with much simpler code. | 23:45 |
| eday | Xenith: we wanted to standardize on one framework. eventlet had better wsgi support (twisted needs to do it in threads, tornado has it's own framework for web apps) | 23:46 |
| eday | eventlet also lets use use any modules fairly seemlessly, where twisted needs it's own version of everything | 23:46 |
| Xenith | Sounds like a good switch then | 23:48 |
| eday | so far, so good :) | 23:48 |
| jordandev | from this link http://wsgi.org/wsgi/What_is_WSGI WSGI seems a specification. What is the implementation OpenStack uses? | 23:48 |
| eday | + swift is eventlet/wsgi based, so there is a chance we'll be able to share more core stuff in the future | 23:49 |
| eday | jordandev: eventlet.wsgi, although it should work with standard Python wsgi server too. We also use webob and routes packages to make things a bit nicer | 23:50 |
| eday | see nova/wsgi.py for details, plus nova/api/* for specific uses | 23:51 |
| nelson__ | Is there a nagios script for swift? | 23:52 |
| nelson__ | (I couldn't find one) | 23:52 |
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| jordandev | eday: thank you so much for this information. Just to be on line with OpenStack implementation (hoping for an eventual nice contribution) | 23:54 |
| nelson__ | Just one more question: is swift extensible short of modifying the source? (In other words, are there hooks or plugins?) | 23:55 |
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