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| rlucio | dubsquared1: b/c i am getting the same issue now too | 00:24 |
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| jt_zg | Hey all, I was wondering where I can find the api key that cyberduck is asking for | 00:44 |
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| vishy | soren: about the iscsi, it seems safe to add the rule to iscsi directly if we use the full targetname | 00:46 |
| vishy | for example: iqn.2010-10.org.openstack:volume-00000001 | 00:46 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: username is your account and username combined ie account:username and api key is your password | 00:46 |
| jt_zg | thanks colinnich I'll try that | 00:47 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, that worked! Thanks | 00:47 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: cool, no problem | 00:48 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #701734 in nova "vm launch fails if security-group chain file already exists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701734 | 00:51 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, Cyberduck seems to hang when connecting/listing directories. Is this common? | 00:52 |
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| vishy | soren: without iscsidev.sh finding the actual sd* device is a little tough | 00:53 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: It worked for me last time I tried it, but I'm now using swauth for authentation and cyberduck doesn't seem to be compatible | 00:55 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, thanks for letting me know. Any recommendations for 'pretty front-ends' to demo Swift to my boss? | 00:56 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: Not really, no - cyberduck is the only one I know of. And I wouldn't say it was pretty :-) | 00:57 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, fair :P I was being generous | 00:57 |
| jt_zg | So, its safe to say I'm writing an API if I want to get the most bang for my buck with Swift? | 00:57 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: if you are using it in-house, then yes probably. | 00:58 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, that's fair. I guess I'd better get to work! | 00:59 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: And I'd better get to bed, it's 1am | 01:00 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, night! thanks for the help | 01:00 |
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| colinnich | jt_zg: just thought of something... I take it cyberduck isn't on the same machine as swift? | 01:09 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, right | 01:09 |
| jt_zg | I have swift running on 5 storage, 1 auth, 1 proxy server(dedicated). I have cyberduck running in an XP VM on my desktop machine | 01:10 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: have you changed the swift cluster url away from 127.0.0.1? | 01:10 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: either the default or at least your account | 01:10 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, hmm, let me check. Thats in the auth configs? | 01:10 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, Hmm, it seems to be pointing to an internal IP | 01:11 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: the default it. To find out what your account is, you could look in /etc/swift/auth.db | 01:11 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: that would explain cyberduck hanging it it couldn't connect to that ip | 01:11 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, certainly does. I'll switch it to the external IP | 01:12 |
| colinnich | jt_zg: good luck, I'm definitely off to bed now | 01:12 |
| jt_zg | colinnich, I believe you :P | 01:12 |
| jt_zg | thanks again | 01:12 |
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| colinnich | jt_zg: np | 01:12 |
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| ehazlett | greetings... i'm following the novainstall doc on virtualbox -- when launching the instance i see it running but get "No route to host" when trying to ssh... any ideas? | 01:22 |
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| creiht | jt_zg: It also depends on your use case | 02:27 |
| jt_zg | creiht, sorry, what does? | 02:27 |
| creiht | If you are doing mainly backup there are tools that can integrate with swift (like duplicity) | 02:28 |
| creiht | in reference to weather or not you are going to need to write something to the api | 02:28 |
| jt_zg | Makes sense. I think we're going to be using Mezeo as a partner but we also want to go the EC2 bucket route also | 02:29 |
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| jt_zg | How do you accomplish data spanning with Swift, over several servers. I.e., you have 2 servers. Each has capacity for 10Tb but you have 11Tb of information. Do the containers handle that automagically? | 04:35 |
| jt_zg | Or are you limited by the largest continuous disk size on a server? | 04:36 |
| jeremyb | jt_zg: 1st of all you never just have 2 servers | 04:43 |
| jt_zg | jeremyb, I understand that | 04:43 |
| jeremyb | the recommended minimum cluster size is 5 zones with 2 servers each | 04:43 |
| jeremyb | err | 04:43 |
| jeremyb | 1 server each | 04:43 |
| jeremyb | so 5 servers total | 04:44 |
| jt_zg | jeremyb, wasn't really my point. What I mean is, what if you have a cluster, but that cluster isn't large enough? | 04:44 |
| jt_zg | can you span data to another cluster? | 04:44 |
| jeremyb | it will fill up? | 04:44 |
| jeremyb | there's a finite max limit of what a given swift cluster can store | 04:44 |
| jeremyb | there's a configurable max size for an individual object | 04:44 |
| jeremyb | you can't have 11tb with the default of 5GB (and no one changes it) | 04:45 |
| jt_zg | that's not my question... | 04:45 |
| jeremyb | each object is stored with 3 complete copies so you need at least 3x the original size | 04:45 |
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| jeremyb | well please clarify then | 04:46 |
| jt_zg | Imagine I have an 10Tb server. I fill it up with one client. That client has 11 Tb of data. can I stretch the container to another set of servers? | 04:46 |
| jeremyb | ? | 04:47 |
| jeremyb | a 10tb server or 10tb cluster? | 04:47 |
| jt_zg | 10tb server. 10tb cluster of 3 storage nodes. I want to incorporate another set of 3 storage nodes to make up for that spare 1tb | 04:47 |
| jt_zg | In essence, stretching and increasing that clients container to grow beyond the first set of storage bricks, on to another set to grow their container | 04:49 |
| jeremyb | i still don't understand the scenario | 04:50 |
| jeremyb | you'd probably just add them to the cluster so you'd end up with a bigger cluster | 04:50 |
| notmyname | jt_zg: essentially, what you are talking about is how to expand a logical cluster | 04:52 |
| jt_zg | notmyname, exactly | 04:52 |
| notmyname | a swift cluster is defined by the ring(s) | 04:52 |
| notmyname | so add servers to the appropriate ring, and you have more storage | 04:52 |
| jt_zg | oh, that's pretty easy | 04:53 |
| notmyname | you can either add to existing zones or add new zones | 04:53 |
| jeremyb | but then the rings have to be pushed to all nodes | 04:53 |
| notmyname | yes | 04:53 |
| notmyname | but that's as complicated as rsync | 04:53 |
| * jeremyb cna't remember if there's a built in tool to do it | 04:53 | |
| jt_zg | so you just add other servers to a ring with a different mount device and the magic happens? | 04:53 |
| notmyname | essentially. replication will handle moving the appropriate partitions to the new servers | 04:54 |
| jeremyb | is it a big deal if the rings are out of sync a little? what if it takes 5 mins to get to all the machines? | 04:54 |
| jt_zg | notmyname, very cool. I wasn't sure if it was possible. And wanted to confirm before deploying more hardware :P | 04:54 |
| notmyname | heh, we do it all the time with cloud files | 04:54 |
| jt_zg | notmyname, thanks, as always | 04:55 |
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| jeremyb | is cloud files one huge cluster? | 04:55 |
| notmyname | per DC | 04:55 |
| jeremyb | can you say how big? | 04:55 |
| notmyname | we have one cluster per DC | 04:55 |
| jeremyb | huh | 04:55 |
| pandemicsyn | jeremyb: no built in tool, we build the rings in a directory served out by nginx | 04:55 |
| notmyname | I'm not really supposed to, as far as I know :-) | 04:55 |
| jeremyb | does it have multi region yet? | 04:55 |
| jt_zg | We tested Gluster. Data spanning...not a futile task :S | 04:56 |
| pandemicsyn | then we just dsh a script on the nodes that wgets the rings and verify's checksums and stuff | 04:56 |
| jt_zg | Swift...makes it a trivial task with rings apparently | 04:56 |
| jeremyb | pandemicsyn: ohhhh, you can make them only editable from one node... | 04:56 |
| notmyname | pandemicsyn: am I right in thinking that one should keep zones balanced. if you have a few servers, add to existing zones. if you have a bunch of servers, add a new zone | 04:57 |
| pandemicsyn | yea, its better if they're similar | 04:57 |
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| notmyname | jt_zg: ^ that | 04:58 |
| pandemicsyn | if you have a zone thats significantly smaller you could have it at a lower weight in the ring though i guess | 04:58 |
| pandemicsyn | that would just help traffic wise though i guess | 04:58 |
| jeremyb | so what about the window where some nodes have the new rings and some have old? | 04:59 |
| notmyname | jeremyb: it would be handled by each side (old and new) the same way an object failure would | 04:59 |
| jeremyb | as in 404? | 04:59 |
| notmyname | so the servers with the old ring would try to push to one server, and replication will eventually move it to the right place | 05:00 |
| jeremyb | for GETS | 05:00 |
| jeremyb | err, GETs* | 05:00 |
| notmyname | no, it should be a 2xx response, but you may not be able to read the writes immediately | 05:00 |
| notmyname | the proxy may have a new ring that doesn't know where the data is until replication moves it | 05:01 |
| jeremyb | i mean for something written days earlier | 05:01 |
| jeremyb | when i GET, how does it find it if it has the new ring? | 05:01 |
| notmyname | it checks the mtime on the ring file and reloads it if necessary, but the ring-builder tool doesn't allow you to shoot yourself in the foot that much. it prevents things from getting too out of sync. gholt wrote that code. he would be the expert on it | 05:02 |
| notmyname | pandemicsyn: do you remember those ring-builder options? | 05:03 |
| pandemicsyn | sorry, R.app just locked my mac up | 05:04 |
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| pandemicsyn | notmyname: which ringer builder option ? the freeze/lockout time or whatever ? | 05:04 |
| jeremyb | i guess that's a rackfiles client not a GNU R IDE? :) | 05:04 |
| pandemicsyn | jeremyb: lol no its the R ide | 05:05 |
| * pandemicsyn has a thing for graphs and stats | 05:05 | |
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| jeremyb | hrmmm | 05:06 |
| notmyname | pandemicsyn: ya, I think I found it in the docstrings | 05:06 |
| creiht | When you make changes to the ring, it will only allow you to move one replica of a partition | 05:06 |
| pandemicsyn | just run "ring-builder" without args | 05:07 |
| creiht | this allows the data to be still available while things are moving around | 05:07 |
| pandemicsyn | its the "min_part_hours" part you want | 05:07 |
| notmyname | jeremyb: run swift-ring-builder with no options and you will see a bunch of text on how that works (not moving one replica of a partition, etc) | 05:07 |
| jeremyb | creiht: but many partitions at a time? | 05:07 |
| creiht | a minimal number | 05:07 |
| jeremyb | (partitions are the thing i have like 10,000 of, right?) | 05:07 |
| creiht | usually millions | 05:08 |
| jeremyb | i was going to do 500k | 05:08 |
| jeremyb | i'm having trouble imagining more than 50 spindles | 05:08 |
| creiht | jeremyb: how big do you plan on your cluster getting? | 05:08 |
| creiht | jeremyb: are you positive about that? | 05:09 |
| creiht | You can almost get 50 spindles on one machine :) | 05:10 |
| jeremyb | heh | 05:10 |
| jeremyb | http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ :P | 05:10 |
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| creiht | heh | 05:11 |
| creiht | not the backblaze server again :) | 05:11 |
| pandemicsyn | creiht: usb port replicators FTW | 05:11 |
| creiht | lol | 05:11 |
| creiht | jeremyb: what size spindles? | 05:12 |
| creiht | 2T, 1.5T? | 05:12 |
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| creiht | if they are 2T then that maxes out at 33T user storage | 05:13 |
| jeremyb | 30.2TB | 05:14 |
| creiht | hehe | 05:14 |
| creiht | yes | 05:14 |
| creiht | :) | 05:14 |
| creiht | k | 05:14 |
| notmyname | assuming perfect distribution and no buffer :-) | 05:14 |
| creiht | jeremyb: if that is all you need, then that will be more than plenty partitions | 05:15 |
| creiht | actually probably too many :) | 05:16 |
| jeremyb | creiht: current size (on one big ext3) is ~8TB. let's say 300TB max size (i was originally thinking 25TB but you got me thinking bigger). that's ~220 spindles at 1.5TB each. (some 1TB, some 2TB, maybe some 1.5TB) | 05:16 |
| notmyname | isn't the "goal" to have about 100 partitions on each node (assuming uniform nodes) when the cluster is full. this gives you control of about 1% of the space per partition | 05:16 |
| jeremyb | how hard is it to change partition count later? | 05:17 |
| notmyname | impossible | 05:17 |
| creiht | notmyname: A rough guideline is to have a minimum of 100 partitions per device at the max cluster size that you might get to | 05:17 |
| creiht | not impossible, but lets pretend it is :) | 05:17 |
| notmyname | ya, that's what I thought I remembered | 05:17 |
| notmyname | heh | 05:17 |
| jeremyb | so, node is spindle not host, right? | 05:18 |
| notmyname | jeremyb: ok, not impossible, but it would require lots of downtime and code that isn't yet written | 05:18 |
| jeremyb | sure | 05:18 |
| creiht | jeremyb: in the ring, that is correct | 05:18 |
| notmyname | node == spindle == drive | 05:18 |
| creiht | and we aren't entirely sure what notmyname is suggesting would even work reasonbly :) | 05:19 |
| notmyname | I'm not suggesting it! just being optimistic :-) | 05:19 |
| creiht | hehe | 05:19 |
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| jeremyb | i'm sorry, make that 660 spindles (forgot to x3) | 05:19 |
| creiht | hehe | 05:19 |
| creiht | alright lets round off to 700 | 05:20 |
| creiht | :) | 05:20 |
| jeremyb | 660 vs. my original plan of 500k is pretty good (original plan made while trying to sleep a month ago, don't remember what variables i used and it's not recorded anywhere) | 05:20 |
| creiht | so if you figured that 700 was that absulute max, then you want at least 70k partitions (700*100) | 05:21 |
| creiht | hehe | 05:21 |
| jeremyb | oh, i'm multiplying by 1k not 100... | 05:21 |
| jeremyb | ok, so i think i'll just go with 500k (5k spindles) and forget about it | 05:22 |
| notmyname | you just increased your cluster size by an order of magnitude... | 05:22 |
| creiht | give yourself a little headroom and 2**17 is 131K parts, or a little more with 2**18 for 262K parts | 05:23 |
| creiht | 2**17 has a max recommend number of 1310 spindles | 05:23 |
| jeremyb | yeah, maybe i'm making some irrational (or baseless) judgement about how expensive excess partitions are | 05:23 |
| creiht | 2**18 has 2621 | 05:23 |
| creiht | they aren't too bad, but you don't want to way over estimate | 05:24 |
| notmyname | more partitions translates into more overhead for the system (data lost to fs metadata, time lost to creating/rebalancing rings, etc) | 05:24 |
| creiht | so I would say based on the minimal amount of information that you have given me so far, 2**17 or 2*18 should be fine for you | 05:24 |
| jeremyb | right | 05:25 |
| jeremyb | i'm partly limited because i can't imagine having the budget to have so many spindles (even if we had a cluster filled to the brim) | 05:26 |
| creiht | I should make a chart of the ring sizes, with the max spindles for each in the docs | 05:26 |
| creiht | right | 05:26 |
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| creiht | We estimaged ours based on a what point would we run out of physical space/network/power | 05:27 |
| notmyname | creiht: http://robhirschfeld.com/2011/01/12/openstack-swift-demo-in-a-browser/ | 05:28 |
| creiht | :) | 05:29 |
| creiht | that sounds familiar :) | 05:29 |
| creiht | though he just has the auth working there | 05:29 |
| notmyname | I told myself that I wouldn't stay up past midnight working tonight | 05:34 |
| * jeremyb too | 05:34 | |
| jeremyb | ugh, why did i df? dead nfs wait! oh it's back | 05:35 |
| * jeremyb has another question: what happens when one of the servers (proxy/container/storage/account) dies in the middle of a request? the client transparently retries? | 05:38 | |
| jeremyb | or if something != proxy broke does the proxy retry? | 05:38 |
| pandemicsyn | yep | 05:39 |
| creiht | if the proxy dies, then the request dies | 05:39 |
| creiht | if something dies behind the proxy, it will try to work around it if it can | 05:39 |
| creiht | more or less | 05:39 |
| creiht | :) | 05:39 |
| creiht | it depends a lot on the request | 05:39 |
| jeremyb | hrmm | 05:39 |
| jeremyb | anyone considered making client libs retry? | 05:39 |
| jeremyb | (configurably) | 05:40 |
| creiht | jeremyb: swift/common/client.py has that | 05:40 |
| creiht | :) | 05:40 |
| jeremyb | creiht: oh, well it was part of the original question and it sounded like the answer was no | 05:41 |
| jeremyb | anyway, thanks | 05:41 |
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| jeremyb | nacht! | 05:43 |
| creiht | http://etherpad.openstack.org/SwiftRingCapacity | 05:46 |
| creiht | If anyone finds that useful to get a rough idea of what the different ring sizings will give you | 05:47 |
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| jt_zg | creiht, thanks for that link! | 06:05 |
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| openstackhudson | Project nova build #389: SUCCESS in 1 min 24 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/389/ | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | Tarmac: This branch adds web based serial console access. Here is an overview of how it works (for libvirt): | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | 1. User requests an ajax console for an instance_id (either through OS api, or tools/euca-get-ajax-console) | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | a. api server calls compute worker to complete request | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | b. compute worker parses an instance's xml to locate its pseudo terminal (/dev/pts/x) | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | c. compute worker spawns an ajaxterm daemon, bound to a random port in a specified range. socat is used to connect to /dev/pts/x. Note that ajaxterm was modified in the following ways: | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | i. dies after 5 minutes of inactivity | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | ii. now requires token authentication. Previously it was trivial to hijack an ajaxterm | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | d. compute worker returns ajaxterm connect information to the api server: port, host, token | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | e. api server casts connect information to the nova-ajax-console-proxy (a new service) | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | f. api server returns a url for the ajaxterm (eg. http://nova-ajax-console-proxy/?token=123) | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | 2. User now has a url, and can paste it in a browser | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | a. Browser sends request to https://nova-ajax-console-proxy/?token=123 | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | b. nova-ajax-console-proxy maps token to connect information | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | c. nova-ajax-console-proxy constructs a proxy to the ajaxterm that is running on the host machine. This is now done with eventlet, though previously it was done using twisted | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | 3. User interacts with console through web browser | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | NOTE: For this to work as expected, serial console login must be enabled in the instance. Instructions for how to do this on ubuntu can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto. Note that you must actively log out of the serial console when you are finished, otherwise the console will remain open even after the ajaxterm term session has ended. | 09:23 |
| openstackhudson | Also note that nova.sh has been modified in this branch to launch nova-ajax-console-proxy. | 09:23 |
| ttx | yay | 09:23 |
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| soren | Weird. We have a couple of tests that fail with Python2.7 | 10:46 |
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| soren | Err.. Occasionally fail with python 2.7 | 10:47 |
| ttx | soren: what does it take to autoclose a bug on branch merge ? It seems to happen sometimes but not all the time | 10:48 |
| soren | ttx: Example of where it didn't work= | 10:48 |
| soren | ? | 10:48 |
| ttx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/681164 | 10:49 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 681164 in nova "Use a search to find DNs instead of creating them directly from attributes" [Medium,Fix committed] | 10:49 |
| ttx | I just closed it myself | 10:49 |
| soren | ttx: I'm not sure. http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova-tarmac/51641/console looks ok. | 10:52 |
| soren | Oh. | 10:53 |
| soren | heh. | 10:53 |
| soren | It requires that the bzr branch actually itself claims to fix the bug. | 10:53 |
| soren | that one didn't. | 10:53 |
| ttx | the --fixes stuff ? | 10:53 |
| soren | Someone must have manually linked the branch and the bug. | 10:53 |
| soren | Yes. | 10:53 |
| soren | This is correct behaviour, IMO. | 10:53 |
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| soren | Just linking a bug and a branch doesn't necessarily mean that the branch fixes the bug. They're just somehow releated. | 10:54 |
| ttx | right, but then we need to encourage use of --fixes if that's the only way to autoclose | 10:54 |
| soren | Certainly. | 10:55 |
| soren | Ok, this makes no sense. | 10:55 |
| soren | I'm on a Natty box. | 10:55 |
| soren | /usr/bin/python points to /usr/bin/python2.7 | 10:55 |
| soren | If I run "python run_tests.py", it fails. If I run "python2.7 run_tests.py", it works. | 10:56 |
| ttx | that sounds strange | 10:58 |
| ttx | about --fixes, does using it automatically link the resulting branch to the bug ? | 10:58 |
| soren | Yes. | 10:59 |
| ttx | ok | 10:59 |
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| ttx | soren: could you set https://code.launchpad.net/~annegentle/nova/fixnewscript/+merge/45085 to Approved ? I think it's good now | 11:03 |
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| soren | ttx: Done. | 11:04 |
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| openstackhudson | Project nova build #390: SUCCESS in 1 min 22 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/390/ | 11:13 |
| openstackhudson | Tarmac: Had to abandon the other branch (~annegentle/nova/newscript) because the diffs weren't working right for me. This is a fresh branch that should be merged correctly with trunk. Thanks for your patience. :) | 11:13 |
| soren | That's going to look awesome in the ChangeLog. | 11:14 |
| ttx | heh | 11:14 |
| ttx | soren: https://code.launchpad.net/~openstack-gd/nova/nova-avail-zones/+merge/44878 pep8 woes were fixed so it is also ready for an Approved switch | 11:15 |
| ttx | this proxying is a bit inefficient, I should fix that. | 11:16 |
| soren | Um.. No. | 11:19 |
| soren | He fixed a fraction of the pep8 problems. | 11:19 |
| ttx | ah? I just checked them... | 11:19 |
| ttx | maybe I'm not using the same --anal-checks flags | 11:20 |
| soren | Looking at the million things hudson complained about, and then looking at the one patch he seems to have added since then: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openstack-gd/nova/nova-avail-zones/revision/490 | 11:20 |
| soren | Or was 489 after the attempted merge, too? | 11:21 |
| * ttx digs deeper | 11:21 | |
| soren | Hm...You seem to be right. | 11:21 |
| ttx | that message about rev490 is a bit confusing indeed | 11:24 |
| ttx | since the new merge proposal includes 489 and 490. | 11:24 |
| soren | Ok, reviewed. It looks good. | 11:25 |
| soren | re-approved. | 11:26 |
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| openstackhudson | Project nova build #391: SUCCESS in 1 min 23 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/391/ | 11:33 |
| openstackhudson | Tarmac: Added support of availability zones for compute. | 11:33 |
| openstackhudson | models.Service got additional field availability_zone and was created ZoneScheduler that make decisions based on this field. | 11:33 |
| openstackhudson | Also replaced fake 'nova' zone in EC2 cloud api. | 11:33 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #701864 in nova "nova.tests.test_cloud.CloudTestCase.test_associate_disassociate_address fails under python 2.7" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701864 | 11:35 |
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| soren | Muhahah. | 11:51 |
| * soren updates http://wiki.openstack.org/Nova/EucalyptusFeatureComparison for the second time today. | 11:51 | |
| sandywalsh | o/ | 11:52 |
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| Whoop | Anyone running OpenStack successfully on Ubuntu Lucid? | 12:27 |
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| ttx | Whoop: Nova, Swift ? Version ? | 12:28 |
| Whoop | Sorry, Nova - don't mind the version (I've never used OpenStack prior - I just dont want to attempt on an OS with known problems) | 12:28 |
| ttx | I have been running the bleeding-edge trunk successfully... but there is lots of flux right now with FeatureFreeze coming up tomorrow, so YMMV | 12:29 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #701880 in nova "[BFE] Merge ~citrix-openstack/nova/xenapi-glance-2 for bexar-xenapi-support-for-glance blueprint" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701880 | 12:31 |
| Whoop | At a guess, how long do you recon it'd take for someone (me) to install from scratch if they've never used it before? | 12:31 |
| soren | Whoop: Depends. Single machine install... 5 minutes. | 12:37 |
| soren | Whoop: Multi-node install. More. | 12:37 |
| Whoop | well I mean the central management machine :P | 12:39 |
| Whoop | not on each node :) | 12:39 |
| Whoop | (each node is easy - tis all the same, can auto deploy that stuff) | 12:39 |
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| soren | There is no "central management machine" in Nova. | 12:40 |
| Whoop | Hmmm ok | 12:40 |
| Whoop | Guess I best go read shit | 12:40 |
| Whoop | ta | 12:40 |
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| soren | So, Swift people... What are the odds the S3 API branch is going to land for Bexar? | 13:24 |
| notmyname | creiht: ^ | 13:31 |
| ttx | it's proposed, pending reviews, I think the odds are reasonably good | 13:33 |
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| soren | \o/ | 13:54 |
| soren | \o/ * 2, even. | 13:54 |
| soren | \o/ that the S3 API branchis likely to land, and \o/ that deja-dup now has Cloud Files support. | 13:54 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #701904 in nova "Logging handler warning when running nova-manage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/701904 | 14:06 |
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| henrichrubin | hi, anyone how to debug this: "ERROR:root:AMQP server on localhost:5672 is unreachable. Trying again in 10 seconds." occurs on nova-compute during "nova.sh run". i was previously able to run nova using this same machine and code branch. | 16:33 |
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| jaypipes | annegentle: pls see my note to you here: https://code.launchpad.net/~morita-kazutaka/nova/sheepdog/+merge/45093. thanks! | 16:42 |
| jaypipes | henrichrubin: do you have rabbit-mq running? | 16:43 |
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| henrichrubin | jaypipes: yes "# ps -ef | grep rabbit | 16:45 |
| henrichrubin | rabbitmq 1865 1 0 Jan07 ? 00:00:00 /usr/lib/erlang/erts-5.7.4/bin/epmd -daemon" | 16:45 |
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| jaypipes | henrichrubin: does it only occur when running nova.sh or does it happen also when running nova-compute (or nova-scheduler) separately? | 16:46 |
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| henrichrubin | jaypipes: i killed the rabbitmq process and manually restarted. same error occurs using either nova.sh or manually running nova-compute. | 16:54 |
| jaypipes | henrichrubin: k. please report a bug then. that shouldn't be happening :) | 16:55 |
| jaypipes | henrichrubin: pls mention in the bug report that same error occurs regardless of using nova.sh or standalones.. | 16:55 |
| jaypipes | henrichrubin: ty! | 16:55 |
| henrichrubin | jaypipes: ok, i'll report a bug. any other ideas how to fix it? or why the server is unreachable, what can i do to test manually? | 16:57 |
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| jaypipes | henrichrubin: not sure. vishy, any suggestions? | 16:59 |
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| eday | mtaylor: pong | 17:08 |
| annegentle | jaypipes: taking a look now. | 17:08 |
| mtaylor | eday: I was going to ask you a question about that exception test you did a while back, but I got it sorted | 17:09 |
| colinnich | notmyname: Hi. What DNS library does cname_lookup require? | 17:09 |
| notmyname | dnspython | 17:09 |
| eday | mtaylor: ahh, ok | 17:09 |
| colinnich | notmyname: I feared that - installing that library seems to break my system | 17:10 |
| colinnich | notmyname: proxy-server doesn't start properly and st hangs too | 17:10 |
| notmyname | did you install it with the deb or with easy_install | 17:10 |
| colinnich | with apt-get | 17:10 |
| colinnich | apt-get install python-dnspython | 17:11 |
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| notmyname | ya, some other people have said that it breaks with the debian package. easy_install it, and it should work. we probably should make a more recent deb and put it in a ppa | 17:12 |
| colinnich | notmyname: ok, I'll give that a go | 17:12 |
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| colinnich | notmyname: result. All is well, and proxy-server starts with cname_lookup loaded... now to test.. thanks | 17:14 |
| notmyname | glad it works | 17:16 |
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| colinnich | notmyname: was planning on doing some documentation for cname and domain_remap. Need to get contribution permission first from my boss.... | 17:17 |
| notmyname | great! | 17:17 |
| colinnich | notmyname: also fixed a small problem with domain_remap relating to lower case reseller prefix | 17:17 |
| colinnich | notmyname: cnames working :-) | 17:21 |
| notmyname | yay! | 17:21 |
| colinnich | notmyname: everything working great for me now, using trunk (and swauth) | 17:22 |
| creiht | colinnich: nice | 17:23 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #702010 in nova "novarc template points CloudServer Auth URL to wrong port" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702010 | 17:51 |
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| jk0 | has anything changed recently in trunk that would prevent API requests from showing up in nova-api stdout? | 18:04 |
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| eday | jk0: the newlog branch perhaps, it might be going to a proper log no | 18:09 |
| eday | now | 18:09 |
| jk0 | ah | 18:09 |
| jk0 | hm | 18:09 |
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| jk0 | doesn't look like it is -- I'm running verbose and nodaemon | 18:10 |
| dabo | ok, I've fixed the merge problems with https://code.launchpad.net/~ed-leafe/nova/xs-password-reset/+merge/45537. | 18:13 |
| dabo | For some reason bazaar removed and re-added several files that had been added in a previous trunk merge, making for a messy diff. Sorry about that. | 18:13 |
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| sandywalsh | super fast review for some keen core devs? https://code.launchpad.net/~sandy-walsh/nova/lp702010/+merge/46022 | 18:33 |
| jk0 | it's got my approval :) | 18:35 |
| sandywalsh | nice ... one more core and we're golden (thx too vishy) | 18:37 |
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| vishy | any devs feel like tackling this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/702040 | 18:42 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 702040 in nova "Virtio net drivers do not work" [Undecided,New] | 18:42 |
| openstackhudson | Project nova build #392: SUCCESS in 1 min 26 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/392/ | 18:48 |
| openstackhudson | Tarmac: My previous modifications to novarc had CLOUDSERVER_AUTH_URL pointing to the ec2 api port. Now it's correctly pointing to os api port. | 18:48 |
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| sandywalsh | eday, are you suggesting I take all the flags out of -api and -combined and put them in flags? | 18:50 |
| eday | sandywalsh: at least that group of 4 (port/host) | 18:50 |
| xtoddx | sandywalsh: look at the lp:~anso/nova/wsgirouter branch, it involves moving that stuff away and into wsgi configuration | 18:50 |
| xtoddx | s/wsgi configuration/paste.deploy configuration/ | 18:51 |
| eday | oh, probably better just to wait for that then | 18:51 |
| eday | ignore me :) | 18:51 |
| sandywalsh | xtoddx, the reason I needed it in flags was for the template generation, it isn't required in flags otherwise | 18:52 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #702040 in nova "Virtio net drivers do not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702040 | 18:52 |
| sandywalsh | eday, this is a small fix for a real pita. Perhaps it's easier for the wsgirouter branch to adjust rather than wait? | 18:54 |
| xtoddx | sandywalsh: i didn't think that flag was being used else where | 18:54 |
| xtoddx | sandywalsh: go ahead and merge yours and i'll fix mine later (yours is pretty small) | 18:55 |
| sandywalsh | xtoddx, it wasn't, but I added cloudservers vars to novarc | 18:55 |
| sandywalsh | xtoddx, thx! | 18:55 |
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| belred | i want to look into using openstack for my company. I'm looking at the openstack web site, and I'm having trouble finding a starting place to lean about it, what it offers and a user's guide. Where should I start? | 19:09 |
| kpepple | belred: are you looking for features / functionality or more architectural / technical discussions ? | 19:10 |
| belred | I want to read both | 19:11 |
| belred | i guess features and functionality would a be simpler to start with. | 19:12 |
| belred | I've clicked through so many pages, but I feel lost. | 19:12 |
| kpepple | soooo … openstack is long on technical / code detail but fairly short on overview / deployment advice. Although this probably isn't what you want to hear, the best way to get what you want may be to pull the code and compile the docs :( | 19:13 |
| kpepple | these docs are migrating to the wiki (and should be mostly there by Bexar release in early February) but mostly aren't there today. | 19:14 |
| rlucio | belred: you look at this? http://nova.openstack.org/ | 19:14 |
| rlucio | that should be the most up-to-date info | 19:14 |
| rlucio | and at least the key concepts should give you an idea about whats going on | 19:14 |
| belred | thanks | 19:15 |
| kpepple | rlucio: thanks, didn't know that was up | 19:15 |
| kpepple | belred: the link that rlucio gave is the docs from source | 19:15 |
| belred | So, the complete documentation is checked into bzr? | 19:15 |
| rlucio | np | 19:15 |
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| rlucio | yes | 19:15 |
| kpepple | belred: i believe all docs are in the doc/ directory in bzr | 19:15 |
| rlucio | the docs are checked in | 19:15 |
| sandywalsh | belred, annegentle handles openstack docs | 19:15 |
| fraggeln | nova != swift right? | 19:16 |
| rlucio | right :) | 19:16 |
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| sandywalsh | fraggeln, correct. nova = compute, swift = storage | 19:16 |
| sandywalsh | fraggeln, glance = swift for nova images | 19:16 |
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| soren | \o/ | 19:17 |
| * soren now has code in bzr | 19:17 | |
| soren | I mean.. I've got a patch accepted into bzr. I've had code managed "in bzr" for a while :) | 19:18 |
| Whoop | :q | 19:18 |
| Whoop | doh, ignore >_< | 19:18 |
| soren | It's spelled "/quit" | 19:19 |
| soren | :) | 19:19 |
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| jdurgin | soren: I updated https://code.launchpad.net/~jdurgin/nova/rbd_volume/+merge/45091 if you could take another look when you have a moment that'd be great | 19:23 |
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| czajkowski | paultag: aloha | 19:28 |
| czajkowski | paultag: meet soren | 19:28 |
| czajkowski | soren: meet paultag | 19:28 |
| soren | jdurgin: approved | 19:29 |
| soren | paultag: o/ | 19:29 |
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| paultag | heyya soren | 19:32 |
| paultag | soren: czajkowski insisted that I get in touch with you guys while I go about my job searches :) | 19:32 |
| paultag | I can't say that I complained too much ;) | 19:33 |
| czajkowski | I said talk to not insist wise ass | 19:33 |
| paultag | oi oi! | 19:33 |
| soren | paultag: Heh :) | 19:35 |
| soren | -> /msg | 19:36 |
| paultag | cheers :) | 19:36 |
| openstackhudson | Project nova build #393: SUCCESS in 1 min 24 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/393/ | 19:38 |
| openstackhudson | Tarmac: This branch adds a backend for using RBD (RADOS Block Device) volumes in nova via libvirt/qemu. | 19:38 |
| openstackhudson | This is described in the blueprint here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/ceph-block-driver | 19:38 |
| openstackhudson | Testing requires Ceph and the latest qemu and libvirt from git. Instructions for installing these can be found on the Ceph wiki (http://ceph.newdream.net/wiki/#Getting_Ceph and http://ceph.newdream.net/wiki/QEMU-RBD). | 19:38 |
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| soren | jdurgin: ^ congrats :) | 19:43 |
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| dabo | Thanks to eday, I've fixed the merge issues. Reviews please! https://code.launchpad.net/~ed-leafe/nova/xs-password-reset/+merge/45537 | 19:44 |
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| jdurgin | soren: thanks! | 19:50 |
| soren | jdurgin: Thank *you*! | 19:51 |
| jt_zg | Is there a way to contribute to the documentation here: http://swift.openstack.org/howto_installmultinode.html ? | 19:53 |
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| kpepple | jt_zg: that's probably a rst doc in the doc/ tree within the swift bzr repo. | 19:55 |
| jt_zg | kpepple, thanks for the tip. I'll check that out! | 19:55 |
| annegentle | jt_zg: yep, that's right. it's an RST doc. (kpepple is fast on the keyboard!) | 19:57 |
| jt_zg | annegentle, Indeed he is. I felt my hair whooshing around. | 19:57 |
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| jt_zg | annegentle, also want to say hi. Just joined your doc group :) | 19:58 |
| kpepple | annegentle: what are you using to edit the rst docs ? is there a good editor .. beyond just using vim ? | 19:58 |
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| annegentle | jt_zg: oh, hi! Thanks for making the connection. I just use a text editor. With a spell check :) | 19:59 |
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| jt_zg | annegentle, is there any set of docs that require some work? | 20:02 |
| devcamcar | hey all, after lunch i'll be dropping the nebula dashboard code into launchpad | 20:03 |
| devcamcar | today is the day | 20:03 |
| soren | I would really appreciate a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/lp701864/+merge/45976 It's quite straight forward and it's blocking package builds on Natty. | 20:03 |
| creiht | woot | 20:03 |
| soren | devcamcar: Project name? | 20:03 |
| kpepple | devcamcar: is this the django dashboard ? | 20:03 |
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| devcamcar | it will be 2 launchpad repos | 20:04 |
| devcamcar | one called django-nova which is the django module | 20:04 |
| devcamcar | and openstack-dashboard-django or something like that, need to talk to ttx about naming, but this one is a simple reference django site that uses the module | 20:04 |
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| soren | devcamcar: Cool. Let me know when it's up. I'm really, really looking forward to seeing it. | 20:08 |
| devcamcar | soren: here is a sneak peek: https://launchpad.net/django-nova | 20:08 |
| devcamcar | it needs documentation | 20:08 |
| annegentle | jt_zg: here's the set of goals for Bexar (the current release) http://www.openstack.org/blog/2010/11/doc-plans-for-upcoming-openstack-releases/ Some of it is done, but tutorials are not yet complete. | 20:08 |
| devcamcar | and i haven't pushed the reference site to make use of it yet, but there is code to browse | 20:09 |
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| soren | devcamcar: It's really the reference site I'm dying to see :) | 20:09 |
| devcamcar | yep, after lunch, which i am now off to :) | 20:10 |
| soren | devcamcar: Enjoy. | 20:10 |
| devcamcar | i'll let you know when its up | 20:10 |
| annegentle | devcamcar: I wonder if just one new document on the nova site would cover it? Feel free to ping me for doc ideas. | 20:10 |
| devcamcar | annegentle: will do :) | 20:10 |
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| xtoddx | quick 2-line bugfix review needed: https://code.launchpad.net/~anso/nova/managelog/+merge/46033 | 20:16 |
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| jt_zg | annegentle, I'll do some reading and get back to you if you'd like | 20:22 |
| annegentle | jt_zg: please do, feel free to email anne@openstack.org or just talk to me here on IRC | 20:23 |
| jt_zg | annegentle, will do. #5 on that list caught my eye | 20:24 |
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| annegentle | jt_zg: excellent. there's a huge need for tutorials :) | 20:28 |
| jt_zg | annegentle, my area of expertise! I'll spin up some VPS' this weekend and try and bang something out for 5.1 and 5.2 | 20:29 |
| dabo | xtoddx: reviewed and approved | 20:31 |
| xtoddx | dabo: thx | 20:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #702106 in swift "Functional Tests in test/functional Should Look For Config File in /etc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702106 | 20:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #702107 in swift "swauth bins should default to the right port if no port is given" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702107 | 20:41 |
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| soren | Save the Ubuntu Natty builds! Approve https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/lp701864/+merge/45976 ! | 21:10 |
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| _0x44 | jaypipes: I made those updates you requested. | 21:23 |
| vishy | some of you may find this useful: http://unchainyourbrain.com/openstack/12-testing-nova-openstack-compute-with-vagrant-and-chef | 21:28 |
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| devcamcar | xtoddx: approved managelog branch | 21:32 |
| xtoddx | devcamcar: thanks | 21:33 |
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| openstackhudson | Tarmac: _wait_with_callback was changed out from under suspend/resume. fixed. | 21:33 |
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| henrichrubin | jaypipes: i was able to fix the rabbit-mq error but manually removing and reinstalling it. note, that i had to use dpkg --purge for it to work fully. | 21:34 |
| henrichrubin | but now i have this error when i try to retrieve novarc from nova-manage "AttributeError: 'unicode' object has no attribute 'access'." any idea? | 21:35 |
| nati | I think there is a bug in get_environment_rc in auth/manager.py | 21:37 |
| nati | Method signature is wrong self.__generate_rc(user.access, user.secret, pid, use_dmz) | 21:38 |
| nati | This should be self.__generate_rc(user, pid, use_dmz) | 21:38 |
| annegentle | vishy: nice... added a link to it on http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaVirtually | 21:40 |
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| soren | vishy: https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/lp701864/+merge/45976 Can you have another look see? | 21:47 |
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| soren | vishy: How slow is your network really? (looking at bug 702040) | 21:52 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 702040 in nova "Virtio net drivers do not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702040 | 21:52 |
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| vishy | one sec, looking up my tests | 21:53 |
| henrichrubin | nati: thx. you are right. do you want me to file a bug report or do you? | 21:54 |
| nati | henrichrubin: If you do'nt mind, would you please send report? I'm working on IPV6 now :) | 21:55 |
| vishy | soren: as i recall it was approx 100 MB/s vs 300 MB/s | 21:55 |
| vishy | both are slow, but non-virtio is just terrible | 21:55 |
| henrichrubin | nati: ok, i'll do it. | 21:57 |
| soren | vishy: 100 MB/s is slow?!? What sort of alien gear do you guys have at NASA? | 21:57 |
| vishy | 10GE | 21:58 |
| soren | 100MB/s is exactly what you can expect when you're emulating a gigabit nic. | 21:58 |
| vishy | k apparently i misremembered or perhaps the network is a bit more loaded | 21:59 |
| vishy | virtio: 571.4375 MB / 10.00 sec = 479.2965 Mbps 97 %TX 35 %RX 0 retrans 1.52 msRTT | 21:59 |
| soren | Yeah, that's not impressive. | 21:59 |
| vishy | which is what 60? | 21:59 |
| soren | Which kernel is this on? (host, I mean) | 21:59 |
| vishy | I seem to remember it better than that | 21:59 |
| vishy | host kernel is old | 21:59 |
| vishy | lucid kernel and probably outdated | 22:00 |
| soren | I forget when macvtap landed. | 22:00 |
| soren | Post-lucid for sure. | 22:00 |
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| soren | But yeah, without virtio you're not going to get above a gigabit. | 22:02 |
| vishy | soren: non-virtio to virtio 237.1875 MB / 10.00 sec = 198.9326 Mbps 99 %TX 35 %RX 0 retrans 1.16 msRTT | 22:03 |
| vishy | soren: non to non 205.3750 MB / 9.99 sec = 172.3916 Mbps 99 %TX 70 %RX 0 retrans 0.63 msRTT | 22:05 |
| vishy | soren: virtio to non-virtio 369.7717 MB / 10.00 sec = 310.0667 Mbps 7 %TX 87 %RX 0 retrans 0.97 msRTT | 22:06 |
| vishy | seems odd that we are well under a gig with virtio | 22:07 |
| vishy | considering it is 10G underneath. | 22:07 |
| vishy | perhaps we just need to upgrade the hosts | 22:07 |
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| soren | vishy: It would be an interesting experiment at least. | 22:16 |
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| openstackhudson | Tarmac: Fix test failures on Python 2.7 by eagerly loading the fixed_ip attribute on instances. No clue why it doesn't affect python 2.6, though. | 22:23 |
| soren | \o/ | 22:23 |
| devcamcar | kerplunk | 22:24 |
| devcamcar | https://code.launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard | 22:24 |
| devcamcar | https://launchpad.net/django-nova | 22:24 |
| devcamcar | https://launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard is better link | 22:25 |
| devcamcar | so openstack-dashboard is a reference django implementation of django-nova | 22:25 |
| devcamcar | django-nova is a django module meant to be reused by however many different django sites | 22:25 |
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| vishy | sexy! | 22:27 |
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| dabo | soren: can you re-review https://code.launchpad.net/~ed-leafe/nova/xs-password-reset/+merge/45537 for the changes I made? | 22:28 |
| soren | devcamcar: Screenshots! | 22:28 |
| vishy | devcamcar: yeah test deploy up somewhere! | 22:29 |
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| devcamcar | yes, lots to be done | 22:29 |
| * vishy wants to see jake's ui changes | 22:29 | |
| devcamcar | i for one am happy that it now has a README | 22:29 |
| devcamcar | not all of jake's ui stuff is in, its still a bit ugly in its current state | 22:29 |
| devcamcar | but not too bad | 22:30 |
| devcamcar | he's going to be fixing it up tomorrow | 22:30 |
| devcamcar | hah, just received an email from ewan asking when dashboard will be released | 22:31 |
| soren | "Someone" needs to be more on IRC :) | 22:31 |
| vishy | devcamcar: now that dashboard is up we just need to make it not suck :) | 22:32 |
| * vishy is referring specifically to the auth through the ec2 api | 22:32 | |
| devcamcar | vishy: indeed! | 22:32 |
| devcamcar | i think its a good candidate to use easyapi | 22:33 |
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| devcamcar | so hopefully we can rip out all the ec2 specific stuff soon | 22:33 |
| * vishy agrees | 22:33 | |
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| fcarsten | swift (beginner) question: Is there a way to tell whether a swift installation has reached consistency (i.e. is currently consistent)? | 22:36 |
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| creiht | fcarsten: a good indicator is the dispersion report | 22:36 |
| creiht | fcarsten: well that depends on what do you mean by consistent | 22:37 |
| fcarsten | creight: where do I find that report? | 22:37 |
| creiht | fcarsten: http://swift.openstack.org/admin_guide.html#cluster-health | 22:37 |
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| creiht | That will let you know in general if replicas of object or container partitions can not be reached | 22:38 |
| fcarsten | creight: What I mean: Swift replication claims to become eventually consistent. I want to check if my swift installation works (well or at all) by checking whether (and how fast) it reaches consistency. | 22:38 |
| creiht | and is useful if you are adding new storage to the system | 22:38 |
| fcarsten | creight: thanks I'll have a look :-) | 22:38 |
| creiht | the above will only tell you on the consistency of the partitions in the event of a ring change (or outtage) | 22:39 |
| devcamcar | creiht: howdy! refresh my memory - is there any disadvantage to starting with a small number of zones, say 4? | 22:39 |
| creiht | devcamcar: hey! The main disadvantage is availability in the case of failure scenarios | 22:40 |
| devcamcar | creiht: is 5 the magic number? | 22:40 |
| creiht | fcarsten: the other things that you can look at are in the logs to see how long replication is running, and how much was replicated | 22:40 |
| creiht | yes | 22:40 |
| devcamcar | creiht: awesome, thanks | 22:41 |
| creiht | we saw a pretty dramatic difference in testing between 4 and 5 zones | 22:41 |
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| fcarsten | creiht: Thanks again. | 22:42 |
| creiht | np | 22:43 |
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| devcamcar | 3pm pst is a crappy time for launchpad to go down for maintenance. | 22:47 |
| devcamcar | that is all. | 22:47 |
| eday | devcamcar: it's a great time where it's hosted :) | 22:48 |
| xtoddx | sandywalsh: can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~anso/nova/wsgirouter | 22:50 |
| sandywalsh | xtoddx, sure thing | 22:50 |
| xtoddx | sandywalsh: Mostly I want confirmation I didn't mess up the templating in the way nova-api translates the paste config into flags, and how I renamed the flags | 22:51 |
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| sandywalsh | xtoddx, ok, I'll keep that in mind. I have to run for a bit, but will review tonight if that works? | 22:52 |
| soren | dabo: I think I've exhausted my reviewing energy for the day. First thing in the morning! | 22:52 |
| dabo | soren: ok, thanks! | 22:53 |
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| sandywalsh | xtoddx, hehe, trying to get the final diff before lp goes offline | 23:03 |
| xtoddx | sandywalsh: good luck! | 23:03 |
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| mjmac | nova question, sorry if this is a FAQ, but not finding the answer on nova.openstack.org... how do volumes work? are they block devices shared via AoE/iSCSI? | 23:17 |
| mjmac | ah... just found the service arch doc | 23:19 |
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| fcarsten | creiht: Hmmm swift-stats-populate -d just sits there and doesn't do anything. So far 0 containers or objects created. Do I need to install something first (apart from swift) before it works? | 23:35 |
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| fcarsten | creiht: never mind. Found the problem: bad auth server URL | 23:40 |
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