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| bwalker7125 | quick question, is there a way to associate a hostname (like i-00000003) to a floating public ip address in openstack? | 00:01 |
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| bwalker7125 | so that you could ping the hostname from another server in your network instead of pinging the ip address | 00:02 |
| bwalker7125 | or ping the instance hostname from the openstack host | 00:02 |
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| kbringard | I'm getting this error intermittently: http://paste.openstack.org/show/643/ | 00:31 |
| kbringard | best I can tell, it happens when using an API key belonging to a user who is not an admin of the project | 00:31 |
| kbringard | and it seems to happen almost all the time after adding a second compute node | 00:32 |
| kbringard | any thoughts? | 00:32 |
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| Ryan_Lane | what are some common reasons why a node would show as not working in nova-manage service list? | 00:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | excluding time synch, I already checked that :( | 00:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | I added a second node, and the first one disabled itself. | 00:35 |
| kpepple | kbringard: you're losing session in cloud.py for some reason | 00:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | also, is multi-node not supported in dhcp-flat mode? | 00:36 |
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| Ryan_Lane | WTF: csock.connect(('8.8.8.8', 80)) | 00:40 |
| kpepple | kbringard: it's running through a list of running instances on your cloud, then if there is a fixed_ip on one instance it's trying to relate the fixed_ip to the network it is one to find out if it needs to do some ipv6 work (clouds.py:685-693) | 00:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | in _get_my_ip.... | 00:40 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: weird ... it's looking for google's dns | 00:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | I guess so that it can figure out what the public socket is | 00:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | but that's really not a good way to go about that | 00:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | in my instance, the nodes don't have access to 8.8.8.8, so it fails | 00:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | network_host would be a much better thing to try there | 00:43 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: yeah, but you can set that in /etc/nova/nova.conf | 00:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah... still a bad default | 00:43 |
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| Ryan_Lane | oh, great, it fails even if you set a default | 00:47 |
| Ryan_Lane | since it still tries to hit the 8.8.8.8 address | 00:47 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: yeah, but it should catch it and return 127.0.0.1 | 00:47 |
| Ryan_Lane | socket.error: [Errno 101] ENETUNREACH | 00:48 |
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| Ryan_Lane | it isn't catching for that error | 00:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's simply a dirty, dirty way to do it. if this was on a classified network, that would throw up flags | 00:49 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: it's only catching socket.gaierror | 00:50 |
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| Ryan_Lane | yeah. it works after I changed it to socket.error | 00:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #714928 in nova "_get_my_ip in flags.py should not try to contact 8.8.8.8" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714928 | 01:06 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #714931 in nova "_get_my_ip in flags.py does not catch some socket exceptions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714931 | 01:12 |
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| kbringard | kpepple: thanks for the info, I'll keep digging! | 01:26 |
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| * jaypipes is exhausted from this multi-tenant discussion... | 02:00 | |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm not wanting to think how I'm going to have to implement that in LDAP | 02:01 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm thinking separate ous | 02:02 |
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| gholt | jaypipes: Antagonist! I think I just don't want to implement "gimme the containers for accounts x, y, and z" in Swift. :) | 02:07 |
| jaypipes | gholt: heh, fair enough :) | 02:08 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: that's kinda where SQL datastores excel ;) | 02:09 |
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| Ryan_Lane | yeah, but I'm assuming we'll be needing ldap support for it at well, right? | 02:10 |
| * jaypipes notes it's kinda funny, that the only thing that Nova dev community has taken a stand on is not taking a stand on anything... | 02:10 | |
| Ryan_Lane | lol | 02:10 |
| gholt | :) | 02:10 |
| Ryan_Lane | nested groups is good for stuff like this | 02:11 |
| * gholt imagines a group of Stackers that actually start working on a Management project. | 02:11 | |
| Ryan_Lane | not really that hard to implement | 02:11 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: not with my proposal to handle that kind of thing in the Nova datastore, but to be fair, I completely understand the opposing view, I've been trying to illuminate some of the tradeoffs we make with that solution. | 02:11 |
| Ryan_Lane | dropping LDAP support would be devastating for me. | 02:11 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: there hasn't been *anyone* proposing that... | 02:11 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah ok | 02:11 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: I've been proposing storing account (note, *not* authentication/authorization data) relationships in the Nova data store. Others have been arguing that the auth service (i.e. LDAP, external SQL-based auth layer, or similar) should be responsible for that kind of thing... | 02:13 |
| Ryan_Lane | I agree the external services should be | 02:13 |
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| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: cool, so I take it you can store and query those relationships in LDAP :) | 02:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | otherwise you are forced to use the API to manage those relationships | 02:14 |
| jaypipes | rihgt | 02:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | yes. exactly | 02:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm using those relationships for way more than they are intended | 02:14 |
| jaypipes | :) | 02:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | for instance, I'm adding posix group attributes to the projects | 02:14 |
| jaypipes | oooh. | 02:14 |
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| Ryan_Lane | so that when a user logs in to their instance, they are also in the posix group for that project | 02:14 |
| jaypipes | I would say nice, but it seems hacky :) | 02:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | then I'm allowing different sets of authorization based on the groups | 02:15 |
| Ryan_Lane | my solution is fully integrated ;) | 02:15 |
| jaypipes | heh, interesting :) | 02:15 |
| Ryan_Lane | this is what LDAP is meant for though. heh | 02:15 |
| Ryan_Lane | so it really isn't hacky, it's extensible | 02:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm using ldap dns entries as puppet nodes too, for instance | 02:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | and I add the information about the user who created the node as puppet values, so that I can send that user an email when the instance is up | 02:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | I add the user's language so that I can send them an email in their localized language | 02:18 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: no, I was referring to storing the posix group attrs in the LDAP entry, not LDAP in general :) I would think it would just be easier to do "useradd user group" instead of storing the group in the LDAP entry :) | 02:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah | 02:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | project entries are groupofnames | 02:19 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: don't worry, much as I hate LDAP's conventions, I recognize its purpose :P | 02:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | so just need to add the posixgroup objectclass, and the attributes | 02:19 |
| jaypipes | interesting | 02:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | and then the systems pick it up automatically :) | 02:19 |
| jaypipes | col | 02:19 |
| jaypipes | cool | 02:19 |
| jaypipes | :) | 02:19 |
| jaypipes | this discussion is taking a toll on my typing abilities. | 02:19 |
| jaypipes | not with you, I mean the mailing list :) | 02:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah. the nice thing about LDAP is that the schema is very strict. the sucky thing about LDAP is that the schema is very strict :) | 02:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 02:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah | 02:20 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: first rule of LDAP is don't talk about the LDAP schema. Second rule of LDAP is... | 02:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 02:20 |
| Ryan_Lane | the third rule is you never change the schema :) | 02:21 |
| jaypipes | :) | 02:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | have I mentioned I changed our schema? :) | 02:21 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 02:21 |
| eday | jaypipes: marathon email threads rock :) | 02:21 |
| * eday is pooped | 02:21 | |
| Ryan_Lane | I must need to sign back up for the list. I haven't been getting emails | 02:21 |
| eday | Ryan_Lane: you on the openstack@ list? nova@ is gone | 02:22 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. that's the reason :) | 02:23 |
| jaypipes | eday: :) | 02:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | cool. on it now | 02:23 |
| gholt | While fun, we might be losing anything productive on that thread at this point. :) | 02:26 |
| jaypipes | eday, Ryan_Lane: http://twitpic.com/3xkmhn | 02:28 |
| jaypipes | gholt: ^^ | 02:28 |
| Ryan_Lane | :D | 02:28 |
| creiht | hah | 02:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | I get threads like this every week on wikitech-l :) | 02:29 |
| creiht | Ryan_Lane: Are most of them from nelson? ;) | 02:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | lol | 02:29 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: lol | 02:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | no, they are almost always about the same few things though | 02:29 |
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| annegentle | woohoo, OSCON proposal submitted - "Documentation in the Open" | 02:37 |
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| Ryan_Lane | hmmm. odd | 02:49 |
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| Ryan_Lane | my NAT rules on my network node are wrong after upgrading | 02:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's setting the SNAT to one of my private interfaces, not my public one | 02:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | even though my public_interface config option is set properly | 02:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. there's a new flag it seems :) | 02:51 |
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| jarrod | ALRIGHT. new servers came in just as new compute released | 03:25 |
| jarrod | score++ | 03:25 |
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| openstackhudson | Tarmac: Catching all socket errors in _get_my_ip, since any socket error is likely enough to cause a failure in detection. | 04:22 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #714986 in nova "'nova-manage network create ...' populates incorrect data in database" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/714986 | 05:02 |
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| openstackhudson | Tarmac: Checks whether the instance id is a list or not before assignment. This is to fix a bug relating to nova/boto. The AWK-SDK libraries pass in a string, not a list. The euca tools pass in a list. | 06:02 |
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| openstackhudson | * Tarmac: fixes #713766 and probably #710959, please test the patch before committing it. | 06:08 |
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| RJD22 | openstackhudson: what kind of daskboard is it? | 09:35 |
| ttx | RJD22: openstackhudson is a bot, won't answer. The dashboard is the OpenStack dashboard, an admin web UI | 09:36 |
| RJD22 | ah ok | 09:37 |
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| berendt | why can't i change the status of a bugreport (nova) to wishlist..? | 10:19 |
| ttx | berendt: need to be part of the bug supervisor team to change others' bugs, I think | 10:21 |
| ttx | berendt: which bug ?* | 10:21 |
| berendt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/715102 | 10:21 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 715102 in nova "creation of a simple file based volume driver in nova/volume/driver.py" [Undecided,New] | 10:21 |
| berendt | I think this is a wishlist entry.. :) | 10:21 |
| berendt | but it's my own bug | 10:22 |
| ttx | berendt: it should even be a blueprint, IMHO | 10:23 |
| ttx | berendt: I marked it confirmed/Wishlist | 10:23 |
| ttx | berendt: if you want to work on that for Cactus, you should create a blueprint about it | 10:23 |
| berendt | ttx: yes? I think there are just a few calls to mount, rm and qemu-img.. (take a look into the linked branch) | 10:23 |
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| berendt | but sure i can create a blueprint if this is necessary to include it into cactus | 10:24 |
| ttx | berendt: not necessary, but certainly helps in tracking what new features end up in the release | 10:24 |
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| berendt | ttx: ok. i'll read how to create blueprints and will submit one | 10:25 |
| ttx | berendt: http://wiki.openstack.org/BlueprintsLifecycle | 10:25 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #715102 in nova "creation of a simple file based volume driver in nova/volume/driver.py" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715102 | 10:26 |
| berendt | ttx: thanks.. maybe i have time to read it later.. have to prepare my rhcsa exam.. | 10:26 |
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| berendt | soren: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/683137 | 10:44 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 683137 in nova "CA code doesn't get installed by "setup.py install"" [Medium,Triaged] | 10:44 |
| berendt | soren: any news there? would be nice to have the solution in the code base.. we have to fix the bug at the moment manually in our SPEC file.. | 10:44 |
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| soren | berendt: I'm going to rewrite all that CA stuff anyways. | 10:50 |
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| soren | berendt: In Python. So that it doesn't need all this special love and care. | 10:50 |
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| berendt | ttx: can you please check my blueprint for the FileDriver: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/filedriver | 12:53 |
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| ttx | berendt: set yourself as drafter and assignee, set "dendrobates" as approver, set "cactus" as the series goal, and set definition to "Pending approval" -- should be alright | 12:54 |
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| berendt | ttx: done | 12:56 |
| ttx | berendt: looks good, thanks | 12:57 |
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| vvuksan | i am deploying Nova in an existing corporate network where I don't control the underlying network infrastructure | 13:32 |
| vvuksan | I can request pool of internal IPs to use for my VMs | 13:32 |
| vvuksan | so instead of using VLANManager I was thinking of using floating IPs | 13:33 |
| vvuksan | i am unclear on the exact floating IP setup | 13:34 |
| vvuksan | ie. how to bind certain floating IP block to certain set of compute hosts | 13:35 |
| vvuksan | is that even possible? | 13:35 |
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| citral | hi, on Ubunutu 10.10 I am following http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/Bexar which went good, and it proceeds into http://wiki.openstack.org/RunningNova, but there the step sudo nova-manage project zipfile <user> gives me a problem. What should I do here? No such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/nova-2011.1-py2.6.egg/nova/..//CA' | 13:57 |
| vvuksan | the way I resolved it | 13:58 |
| vvuksan | one sec | 13:58 |
| citral | I tried a symbolic link from nova/test/CA | 13:58 |
| vvuksan | http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/CentOSNotes | 13:59 |
| vvuksan | look for | 13:59 |
| vvuksan | rsync -av /opt/nova/CA/ /var/lib/nova/CA/ | 13:59 |
| vvuksan | assuming that the bexar code is in /opt/nova | 13:59 |
| vvuksan | you also may need to set the path for ca_path | 13:59 |
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| rcc | hey guys | 14:06 |
| rcc | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/708025 | 14:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 708025 in nova "VLAN field in networks table should be constrained" [Low,Confirmed] | 14:06 |
| rcc | what should be better, put the fix in nova-manage or in the VlanManager class? | 14:07 |
| rcc | i.e. deeper the better? I'm more inclined to fix bad arguments at the pertinent file is getting them | 14:10 |
| vvuksan | i'd say fix the underlying class | 14:10 |
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| rcc | k, i'll just do that thx | 14:11 |
| citral | vvuksan: thanks, I symlinked /opt/nova-2011.1/CA/ to /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/nova-2011.1-py2.6.egg/CA and then the error goes away. | 14:14 |
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| vvuksan | i'd set ca_path instead | 14:15 |
| vvuksan | but that would work | 14:15 |
| citral | ah ok | 14:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #715180 in nova "vlan100 and br100 still available after stopping nova-network: restart of nova-network not possible, br100 in state DOWN after starting nova-network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715180 | 14:36 |
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| citral | Question. I am still following http://wiki.openstack.org/RunningNova , is my impression correct that I cannot just use uec-publish-tarball without some setting up of the euca tools? (It doesn´t work right away.) Is it a better approach to try a manual registration process of the image? | 14:42 |
| annegentle | citral: hey thanks for updating that wiki page. Actually the uec-publish-tarball is part of the cloud-utils package. | 14:44 |
| annegentle | citral: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/BundlingImages9.10 | 14:44 |
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| citral | annegentle: thanks for the pointer. uec-publish-tarball does not work out of the box for me (I installed the cloud-utils). It says it is unable to run euca-describe-images, which in turn gives a [Errno 111] Connection refused. The wiki doesn´t cover configuring euca2ools - is that necessary? | 14:57 |
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| annegentle | citral: that error sounds more like one of the nova- services isn't running. | 15:02 |
| citral | annegentle: I think you´re right :) let me investigate that | 15:03 |
| annegentle | citral: ok, go for it :) | 15:03 |
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| citral | I got further now, and the previous error is fixed. But this error leaves me puzzled: http://paste.openstack.org/show/646/ | 15:47 |
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| annegentle | jaypipes ^^ is register_image() a glance call? Not sure I can troubleshoot further, sorry citral. | 16:01 |
| cjreyn | can anyone tell me which of the ubuntu images here http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/ work with bzr649 ? | 16:01 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: looking... | 16:02 |
| jaypipes | cjreyn: at least karmic and up should work. | 16:02 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: no, register_image() is in euca-register, which is used by uec-publish-tarball. The issue is that the image has not been associated with a ramdisk (see the line that says ramdisk: none) | 16:03 |
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| jaypipes | annegentle: or at least, that's what it *looks like* :) | 16:04 |
| jaypipes | devcamcar: check out citral's paste above...my explanation seem correct? | 16:04 |
| vvuksan | cjreyn: should be any of themn | 16:07 |
| vvuksan | cjreyn: although I'd say it's not to hard to bundle your own image | 16:07 |
| cjreyn | mmm, I just tried 9.10 and console output shows its stuck at: * Setting preliminary keymap... * Waiting for EC2 meta-data service | 16:09 |
| vvuksan | cjreyn: this is what I use to pack up RHEL images http://wiki.openstack.org/CreatingRHELImages | 16:09 |
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| vvuksan | cjreyn: are you sure your setup works ? | 16:09 |
| vvuksan | cjreyn: did you try the ttylinux images? | 16:09 |
| cjreyn | well images boot, including the tiny image ttylinux-uec-amd64-12.1_2.6.35-22_1.tar.gz | 16:10 |
| cjreyn | the bexar admin manual states that .tiny images cannot be ssh'd to | 16:10 |
| vvuksan | can you connect into ttylinux after it boots? | 16:10 |
| cjreyn | nope | 16:10 |
| vvuksan | hmm | 16:10 |
| vvuksan | i don't think that's correct | 16:11 |
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| vvuksan | can you ping it at least? | 16:11 |
| cjreyn | nope. I just figured the problem was because of the image instantiation type | 16:11 |
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| cjreyn | I condifured the br100 device manually | 16:11 |
| vvuksan | ok | 16:12 |
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| cjreyn | mm, the bridge is up, and has vnet0 and eth1 (my main interface) attached. | 16:13 |
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| cjreyn | what are the -flat_injected and -public_interface flags in nova.conf I acn;t find any docs on these | 16:15 |
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| rootwyrm | 'morning | 16:15 |
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| jaypipes | dprince: I promise I'll be getting to your bug this morning. sorry for the delay. | 16:24 |
| jaypipes | rootwyrm: morning. | 16:24 |
| rootwyrm | 'morning jaypipes. I'm interested in finding the POCs for OpenStack. | 16:26 |
| rootwyrm | not sure who to talk to though. | 16:26 |
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| annegentle | rootwyrm: POC = Proof Of Concept? | 16:31 |
| rootwyrm | Point of Contact | 16:31 |
| annegentle | rootwyrm: let me know your interest and I'll connect you | 16:32 |
| * annegentle sounds like a switchboard operator | 16:32 | |
| ttx | or Project Oversight Committee | 16:32 |
| ttx | yay overloaded acronyms | 16:32 |
| annegentle | ttx: yes that was my other guess :) | 16:32 |
| rootwyrm | I'm the business developer for eRacks Open Source Systems. My CEO wants to get on board with the project and use OpenStack for our mass-NAS systems. | 16:32 |
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| jaypipes | rootwyrm: POC? proof of concepts? point of contacts? | 16:33 |
| rootwyrm | ... Point of Contact | 16:33 |
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| jaypipes | rootwyrm: depends on what you're looking to do. development? deployment? partnering? etc, etc :) | 16:34 |
| rootwyrm | help with deployment, but primarily partnering. | 16:34 |
| jaypipes | rootwyrm: are you interested in contributing your code as open source? | 16:34 |
| rootwyrm | we | 16:34 |
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| rootwyrm | we're going to help provide hardware for the software. | 16:34 |
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| jaypipes | rootwyrm: ah, I see. I would contact Jim Curry (jim@openstack.org) or Mark Collier (mark@openstack.org). They head up the business unit around OpenStack partnerships and can point you in the right direction. For developer contributions and interests, feel free to post to the mailing list (https://launchpad.net/~openstack) | 16:36 |
| rootwyrm | nice. I'll write both Jim & Mark then. | 16:37 |
| jaypipes | rootwyrm: cheers :) | 16:37 |
| rootwyrm | If OpenStack decides they need some specialized hardware for any of its development, send them my way. I'll give a developer discount on our systems to help out. | 16:38 |
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| ttx | jaypipes: about missing translations, I merged lp:~nova-core/nova/bexar-translations into my bexar branch -- any reason why this wouldn't be sufficient ? | 16:38 |
| rootwyrm | but, our eRacks/NAS50 150TB 9U system might be rather nice to work with, or our 42U 1 Petabyte system. | 16:38 |
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| jaypipes | ttx: heh, because the translations aren't in there as binary files. | 16:43 |
| jaypipes | ttx: still working on that...please don't merge it into bexar trunk yet :) | 16:43 |
| ttx | jaypipes: aye | 16:43 |
| cjreyn | ok, when I'm booting a tty image, it fails to get an IP via DHCP. Is there a way I can check that the DHCP server on the compute node is working, and bound to the bridge IP? | 16:43 |
| ttx | jaypipes: this i18n stuff is a bit opaque to me :) | 16:44 |
| * ttx would rather beat all the French into speaking properly english. | 16:44 | |
| imsplitbit | ttx: "properly english"? | 16:45 |
| jaypipes | hehe | 16:45 |
| ttx | imsplitbit: heh | 16:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #715263 in glance "glance-combined not included in setup.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715263 | 16:46 |
| vvuksan | cjreyn: on the compute node type iptables -t nat -l | 16:49 |
| vvuksan | cjreyn: sorry it's -L and not -l | 16:49 |
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| cjreyn | cheers. Will these chains change when images are instantiated? | 16:55 |
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| jaypipes | vishy: oh noes. thread re-ignited ;) | 16:56 |
| ttx | jaypipes: excellent postmortem feedback, thanks | 16:58 |
| jaypipes | ttx: welcome. | 16:59 |
| vvuksan | cjreyn: look for line that says 169.254 ? | 16:59 |
| vvuksan | is it there ? | 17:00 |
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| cjreyn | vvuksan: yes, in the preouting chain: DNAT tcp -- anywhere 169.254.169.254 tcp dpt:www to:192.168.40.2:8773 | 17:02 |
| vvuksan | that's good | 17:02 |
| cjreyn | so 40.2 is my bridges IP | 17:02 |
| vvuksan | cjreyn: what kind of networking are you using ? Flat or FlatDHCP / | 17:02 |
| cjreyn | FlatDHCP | 17:02 |
| vvuksan | do a ps auxww | grep dnsmasq | 17:02 |
| vvuksan | is it there ? | 17:03 |
| cjreyn | yep | 17:03 |
| vvuksan | says something like static ? | 17:03 |
| cjreyn | but the listen address relates to the virbr0 interface IP | 17:03 |
| vvuksan | not right | 17:04 |
| vvuksan | likely you are missing path to nova-dhcpdbridge | 17:04 |
| vvuksan | add something like this | 17:05 |
| vvuksan | --dhcpbridge=/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge | 17:05 |
| vvuksan | then make sure you restart nova-compute | 17:05 |
| vvuksan | then try instantiating the instance again | 17:05 |
| vvuksan | and actually one thing to do is | 17:06 |
| vvuksan | run nova-dhcpbridge by hand make sure it doesn't error out | 17:06 |
| vvuksan | also i'd kill dnsmasq listening on virbr0 | 17:06 |
| vvuksan | that's the dnsmasq started by libvirt | 17:06 |
| cjreyn | kill dnsmasq first? | 17:07 |
| vvuksan | yeah | 17:07 |
| vvuksan | nova-compute should start it | 17:07 |
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| cjreyn | ok, so it doesnt restart when nova-compute restarts. my nova.conf does contain the --dhcpbridge=/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge flag | 17:08 |
| cjreyn | to start it by hand? | 17:09 |
| vvuksan | no | 17:09 |
| vvuksan | just leave it | 17:09 |
| vvuksan | i assume /usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge exists ? | 17:09 |
| cjreyn | yes | 17:10 |
| vvuksan | nova do euca-run | 17:10 |
| vvuksan | now :-) | 17:10 |
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| cjreyn | yeah fired up an image... | 17:11 |
| vvuksan | now watch it | 17:11 |
| vvuksan | while it's booting check ps for dnsmasq | 17:11 |
| vvuksan | has it started ? | 17:11 |
| cjreyn | yeah it started, but console print form the VM again shows: udhcpc (v1.17.2) started | 17:12 |
| cjreyn | Sending discover... | 17:12 |
| cjreyn | Sending discover... | 17:12 |
| cjreyn | Sending discover... | 17:12 |
| cjreyn | No lease, forking to background | 17:12 |
| cjreyn | starting DHCP forEthernet interface eth0 [ OK ] | 17:12 |
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| cjreyn | the debug print from the console in the vm does an ifconfig -a, and no IP has been assigned | 17:12 |
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| cjreyn | no dnsmasq on the compute node | 17:13 |
| nelson | http://alsted.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/000_Finlanda_harta.PNG/75px-000_Finlanda_harta.PNG is coming from a 3-node swift cluster. | 17:13 |
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| creiht | nelson: how goes it? | 17:14 |
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| nelson | Along with 21GB of its closest friends. :) | 17:14 |
| berendt | does somewhere exists a nice overview graphic for the swift architecture? i only now the one for nova the moment | 17:15 |
| nelson | berendt: I haven't seen one. | 17:15 |
| creiht | is that still with squid or are you trying varnish yet? | 17:15 |
| creiht | nelson: is that public content, or still in test? | 17:15 |
| nelson | creiht: that's going through squid. it's public in the sense that anybody who knows which files are in our 'aa' shard is free to fetch them. :) | 17:16 |
| creiht | hehe | 17:16 |
| vvuksan | cjreyn: try to run nova-dhcpbridge by hand | 17:17 |
| vvuksan | see if it errors out | 17:17 |
| vvuksan | i remember having issues with it starting | 17:17 |
| cjreyn | kill the current instance 1st? | 17:17 |
| vvuksan | forgot what I did | 17:17 |
| nelson | creiht: that's including 鳴子峡レストハウス.JPG | 17:17 |
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| vvuksan | cjreyn: do dnsmasq is running or not ? | 17:17 |
| cjreyn | ha ha, cool thanks for this! | 17:17 |
| creiht | berendt: at what level are you looking for? | 17:17 |
| cjreyn | should I stop the instance 1st? | 17:17 |
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| nelson | creiht: e.g. http://alsted.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/%E9%B3%B4%E5%AD%90%E5%B3%A1%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%8F%E3%82%A6%E3%82%B9.JPG/800px-%E9%B3%B4%E5%AD%90%E5%B3%A1%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B9%E3%83%88%E3%83%8F%E3%82%A6%E3%82%B9.JPG | 17:18 |
| berendt | creiht: like this one for nova: http://nova.openstack.org/_images/Novadiagram.png | 17:18 |
| creiht | nelson: hehe | 17:19 |
| nelson | aka http://alsted.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/鳴子峡レストハウス.JPG/800px-鳴子峡レストハウス.JPG | 17:19 |
| annegentle | berendt: my take is that swift doesn't have a messaging system so it's not nearly as complex. Does text help? See http://swift.openstack.org/overview_architecture.html | 17:20 |
| nelson | and it sure looks like the name of the image is the same as what's over the door in the image. | 17:20 |
| creiht | berendt: yeah I need to add that to my list | 17:20 |
| creiht | sorry we don't have a good overview of that yet | 17:21 |
| nelson | annegentle: but some people grokk things visually better. | 17:21 |
| berendt | annegentle: i know that text.. but for example a graphic for the rings and the communication between the swift nodes would be nice | 17:21 |
| creiht | I've seen some presentations that have something similar though, let me see if I can dig one up | 17:21 |
| nelson | creiht: I'd like to see it, too, if you would. | 17:21 |
| * creiht nods | 17:22 | |
| nelson | I have my own mental model of a visual representation of the architecture. | 17:22 |
| berendt | creiht: thants | 17:22 |
| annegentle | berendt: agreed, I'll repurpose what creiht digs up for the docs, visual images are always helpful. | 17:23 |
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| creiht | berendt, nelson: well the diagrams are not all that great :/ | 17:26 |
| creiht | annegentle: Are you in SA any time this week? | 17:26 |
| nelson | oh dear. | 17:26 |
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| berendt | creiht: ok | 17:27 |
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| annegentle | creiht: yup, on thursday | 17:30 |
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| annegentle | creiht: let's draw on the back of a napkin! | 17:30 |
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| wedjat | hello swift fans :) | 17:37 |
| wedjat | does someone know which HTTP request do i need to update metadatas on a container ? for an object i just can use a HTTP POST request with the Metadata as a header, but the same doesn't work for containers | 17:38 |
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| kbringard | hey guys, I have a question | 17:39 |
| kbringard | I have a second compute node setup | 17:40 |
| kbringard | I can see that it's registering with rabbitmq | 17:40 |
| kbringard | but it never becomes available to nova | 17:40 |
| kbringard | am I missing something? | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | wedjat: maybe you need to PUT, not POST? | 17:40 |
| kbringard | the scheduler and network controllers are running on the same machine as the CC, the only thing running on the second node is compute | 17:41 |
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| RJD22 | I'm using the deploy .py script to install a cloud but it doesn't work as expected | 17:43 |
| RJD22 | it hangs after the first comman | 17:43 |
| RJD22 | command* | 17:44 |
| RJD22 | ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -t <username-here>@cloud-controller 'sudo -u root sh -c "apt-get -y --force-yes install python-yaml"' | 17:44 |
| wedjat | jaypipes: PUT or POST, the two methods work for that operation :) | 17:44 |
| RJD22 | it runs this command and nothing happens | 17:44 |
| wedjat | jaypipes: it was a problem with the X-Container-metadata' which need to be well written | 17:45 |
| RJD22 | is there noone who might know what is going wrong? | 17:47 |
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| vvuksan | kbringard: hey | 17:48 |
| kpepple | RJD22: sorry, haven't used the deploy script | 17:48 |
| kbringard | hey vvuksan | 17:49 |
| kbringard | how are ya? | 17:49 |
| vvuksan | kbringard: good. Do select * from services | 17:49 |
| vvuksan | see if it registered there | 17:49 |
| kbringard | I did, it is | 17:49 |
| RJD22 | nvm it's working | 17:49 |
| RJD22 | but I don't know why :P | 17:49 |
| kbringard | it's marked as enabled (or rather, disabled = 0) | 17:49 |
| kbringard | nova-manage service list shows it there, but it has XXX instead of :-) | 17:50 |
| vvuksan | yeah | 17:50 |
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| vvuksan | i had the same | 17:50 |
| kbringard | I even blasted it from the DB and recreated the entire queue | 17:50 |
| kbringard | it all reregistered automagically | 17:50 |
| kbringard | but it still doesn't let me use it | 17:50 |
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| vvuksan | however it will still deploy | 17:51 |
| kbringard | well, when I shut down the other compute node, VMs get stuck in scheduling | 17:51 |
| kbringard | until I bring back the other compute node | 17:52 |
| kbringard | the scheduler is only trying to cast them to the compute node that it thinks is working | 17:52 |
| vvuksan | it should take about a minute for it to pronounce the node dead | 17:52 |
| blueadept | anyone know what google's logo is about today? | 17:52 |
| kbringard | blueadept: Jules Verne | 17:53 |
| kbringard | wrote 20k Leagues Under the Sea | 17:53 |
| blueadept | ah | 17:53 |
| blueadept | i thought it had to do with that | 17:53 |
| kbringard | and Journey to the Center of the Earth, etc | 17:54 |
| kbringard | if you click on the logo | 17:54 |
| kbringard | it does a search for what it's about | 17:54 |
| RJD22 | running into a new error | 17:54 |
| blueadept | i was too busy messing with the controller to know to click on the image | 17:54 |
| kbringard | haha, yea, me too | 17:54 |
| kbringard | it's fun | 17:54 |
| RJD22 | err: Could not retrieve catalog from remote server: hostname was not match with the server certificate | 17:54 |
| vvuksan | kbringard: are you using floating IPs ? | 17:55 |
| RJD22 | it's when trying to setup puppet | 17:55 |
| kbringard | vvuksan: I don't think so... at least not intentionally | 17:55 |
| kbringard | although, I did't set my network information in my nova.conf, since it's all in the DB | 17:55 |
| vvuksan | kbringard: I'm thinking of using floating IPs instead of VLAN stuff | 17:55 |
| vvuksan | i'm just unclear how it works | 17:56 |
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| creiht | annegentle: yeah come on over to the swift area and we can work on a diagram | 18:01 |
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| creiht | wedjat: I don't remember off the top of my head, but I think it should be a POST similar to object metadata | 18:02 |
| vvuksan | kbringard: i tested your scenario | 18:04 |
| creiht | wedjat: yeah, make a post to the container, and each of your metadata items should start with X-Container-Meta- | 18:04 |
| vvuksan | kbringard: you may be running into the timeout issue | 18:05 |
| vvuksan | it takes about a minute or so before a node is marked down | 18:05 |
| kbringard | well, even still | 18:05 |
| kbringard | I shut down all compute nodes, and wait for the status to show them all as down | 18:06 |
| kbringard | then I start the compute node on the machine that isn't the CC | 18:06 |
| kbringard | and it never shows it as available | 18:06 |
| vvuksan | hmm | 18:07 |
| kbringard | same thing with the scheduler | 18:07 |
| vvuksan | i'd file a bug | 18:07 |
| kbringard | the services on the machine that isn't the CC seem to be registering, but never become "available" | 18:07 |
| wedjat | creiht: yeah, it works perfectly, as it should ! :) | 18:09 |
| wedjat | creiht: i'm searching now how to create and use groups in swift, it should be a little tricky | 18:09 |
| kbringard | I wonder if this is a networking issue... like the heartbeat can't connect to realize the stuff is up | 18:10 |
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| vvuksan | cjreyn has the same issue I have had with nova-dhcpbridge setting 10.0.0.2 for dhcprange | 18:13 |
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| Ryan_Lane | kbringard: are the times on your nodes sync'd? | 18:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | kbringard: also, which networking mode are you using? | 18:33 |
| kbringard | Ryan_Lane: I'm using VLAN mode, but I think the time issue is the problem | 18:34 |
| kbringard | smart man | 18:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | RJD22: that means the puppet client is trying to connect to the puppet server, but the puppet server's CA doesn't match the server name you have configured | 18:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | kbringard: I ran into it a few weeks ago :) | 18:34 |
| kbringard | i didn't even think to check... they were off by about 5 mins | 18:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | RJD22: are you using an IP for the server name? | 18:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | that's enough to do it | 18:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | kbringard: mine was off by like 2 minutes, and that was too much | 18:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | seems NTP is a necessity | 18:35 |
| kbringard | yep, that fixed it | 18:35 |
| kbringard | you are the man | 18:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | \o/ | 18:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | RJD22: for puppet server you must use a FQDN for the name :) | 18:36 |
| vvuksan | Ryan_Lane: do you know much about floating ip setup ? | 18:39 |
| Ryan_Lane | only that nova does it for me automatically :) | 18:39 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm using FlatDHCP | 18:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | with multiple NICs | 18:40 |
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| Ryan_Lane | so, if you are using that networking mode, and have two interfaces, I can likely help you | 18:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | I know nothing about vlan mode, and it doesn't really work in flat mode | 18:41 |
| kbringard | Ryan_Lane: I'm using VLAN mode with multiple interfaces and it works great | 18:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's working perfectly for me in flatdhcp mode too :) | 18:43 |
| kbringard | very nice | 18:44 |
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| kbringard | vvuksan: how's that CentOS 5.5 OpenStack stuff working for you? | 18:57 |
| vvuksan | kbringard: works good | 18:58 |
| kbringard | nice | 18:58 |
| kbringard | RHEL6 was pretty easy to get installed, but I am concerned about a couple of things (like, no qemu-nbd... and when Cent6 will come out) | 18:59 |
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| vvuksan | kbringard: the issues I'm trying to resolve are floating IPs | 19:02 |
| vvuksan | and also creation of disk.local | 19:02 |
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| sirp_ | jaypipes: looks like nova trunk is now pointed to cactus, mind doing the same for glance? | 19:03 |
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| openstackhudson | Project nova build #494: SUCCESS in 1 min 34 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/494/ | 19:12 |
| openstackhudson | Tarmac: Automates the setup for FlatDHCP regardless of whether the interface has an ip address. | 19:12 |
| openstackhudson | FlatDHCP only has worked until now if the underlying interface that you bridge into has no ip address. This branch will do the necessary setup to allow it to work by: | 19:12 |
| openstackhudson | * Creating a bridge with the private address for dhcp | 19:12 |
| openstackhudson | * Moving any existing ips from the interface onto the bridge | 19:12 |
| openstackhudson | * Adding the interface to the bridge | 19:12 |
| openstackhudson | * Recreating the default route if it was deleted by moving the interface | 19:12 |
| openstackhudson | It will additionally add a route to compute hosts for bridges that it adds to the compute hosts. This seems to be necessary in some cases where the default route uses a different interface. | 19:12 |
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| nelson | In swift/common/wsgi.py is the call to sleep() a call to time.sleep() or eventlet.sleep() ? | 19:20 |
| nelson | Only way to find out is to searching for the "from evenelet import sleep". | 19:21 |
| nelson | Why oh why do people feel the need to use "from/import"? | 19:21 |
| * nelson will whinge for money. | 19:21 | |
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| ttx | Team meeting in 90 minutes in #openstack-meeting | 19:31 |
| RichiH | ttx: open for all? | 19:32 |
| ttx | RichiH: of course | 19:32 |
| RichiH | _team_ meeting not per se, no :) | 19:32 |
| ttx | RichiH: we do open design and open development. so the team is open :) | 19:32 |
| RichiH | ttx: there's that, agreed | 19:33 |
| RichiH | soren stressed that point during his talk | 19:33 |
| RichiH | still, asking before joining a channel is good style :) | 19:33 |
| ttx | argh, FOSDEM fallback already :) | 19:33 |
| RichiH | i heard about openstack on thursday and went to fosdem on friday | 19:34 |
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| ttx | RichiH: got a presentation on Sunday and went on the IRC channel on Tuesday ? | 19:34 |
| nelson | "from eventlet.green import urllib2" is destructive of readability. Is urllib2 the urllib2 module or is it eventlet's urllib2? | 19:35 |
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| ttx | RichiH: meeting agenda is at http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings | 19:35 |
| RichiH | ttx: and read up on it on saturday | 19:36 |
| nelson | And yet that's one of the examples of how they suggest you should code using eventlet. | 19:36 |
| * nelson could whinge all day long. | 19:36 | |
| dprince | ttx: Can you assign #713144 to dprince (and or titan). | 19:36 |
| ttx | bug 713144 | 19:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 713144 in nova "Openstack API: GET on /servers/<id> returns empty 'addresses'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/713144 | 19:37 |
| dprince | ttx: yes sir | 19:37 |
| dprince | ttx: thanks. | 19:37 |
| RichiH | kpepple: feel free to ask me for local time & client directly | 19:37 |
| ttx | dprince: done. I'm surprised you can't do it yourself | 19:38 |
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| kpepple | RichiH: my annoying irc client does that automagically ... sorry | 19:39 |
| RichiH | kpepple: yah, no worries. it was just weird, is all | 19:40 |
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| RichiH | btw, as there were way too people around soren at the time to ask him directly: is there anything in openstack to mitigate high i/o loads? on our current platforms, the only real problem is i/o | 19:43 |
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| RichiH | also, from what soren presented, there is nothing to prevent an attacker from creating a lot of hashes of storage objects so that they will all end up on the same server | 19:48 |
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| RichiH | that's the classic problem when basing a ring's DHT on outside input | 19:48 |
| RichiH | one possible, and almost trivial, solution would be to expand the node mapping in those regions of the ring that have a higher load | 19:49 |
| RichiH | though finding collisions on the first four bytes of a md5sum might (soon) be simple enough to create identical indices, in which case expanding the hash key length might make sense | 19:51 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #715372 in glance "Add --config-file option" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715372 | 19:56 |
| creiht | RichiH: In swift, the hashes are salted, so the user couldn't do that unless they knew the salt | 19:57 |
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| Ryan_Lane | how does one set up the ajax terminals? | 19:59 |
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| Ryan_Lane | do I need to enable serial consoles via the xml template for libvirt? | 20:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | or does the default one do that? | 20:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | and if the serial console is enabled, I can test it using virsh console, correct? | 20:27 |
| rlucio | Ryan_Lane: afaik the bexar libvirt xml files have support for serial, but you also have to have serial console access setup in the VM | 20:31 |
| rlucio | see the nova/tools/nova-debug script | 20:31 |
| rlucio | for config | 20:31 |
| RichiH | creiht: can the user find out the hashes? | 20:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | rlucio: thanks | 20:31 |
| creiht | RichiH: nope | 20:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | cat >t/etc/init/ttyS0.conf <<TTY_EOF | 20:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | rlucio: I'm assuming that part ^^ | 20:32 |
| * Ryan_Lane sticks that in his user-data for upstarts | 20:33 | |
| Ryan_Lane | do I need to have direct access to the compute nodes for ajax-term support? | 20:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | or will it proxy via the network node? | 20:35 |
| RichiH | creiht: ah, k. else, it would be trivial to find the salt | 20:38 |
| ttx | Team meeting in 15 minutes in #openstack-meeting ! | 20:45 |
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| creiht | RichiH: indeed :) | 20:48 |
| ttx | Ryan_Lane: there is some explanation on the merge proposal at https://code.launchpad.net/~anso/nova/ajaxterm/+merge/45068 | 20:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | ttx: great. thanks :) | 20:51 |
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| Ryan_Lane | I've been tracing through the code | 20:51 |
| * ttx thinks that should been turned into doc :) | 20:51 | |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 20:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | likely | 20:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | or at least a wiki page | 20:51 |
| ttx | annegentle: ^ | 20:51 |
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| Ryan_Lane | eh? there's a new service for this? do I need to install it? I don't see it in the package lists | 20:52 |
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| ttx | Ryan_Lane: it's been lost in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/714678 | 20:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 714678 in nova "Missing items in Bexar release tarball" [Critical,In progress] | 20:53 |
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| ttx | and accesorily was never installed by the ubuntu packaging | 20:53 |
| * annegentle reads | 20:53 | |
| Ryan_Lane | :D | 20:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | that'll make it hard to use. heh | 20:53 |
| ttx | Ryan_Lane: that's what you get when you forget to add your binaries to setup.py :P | 20:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | indeed :) | 20:54 |
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| ttx | Ryan_Lane: you can test from branch | 20:54 |
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| ttx | Join us now: meeting starting NOW in #openstack-meeting ! | 20:59 |
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| openstackhudson | Project swift build #191: SUCCESS in 29 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/swift/191/ | 21:16 |
| openstackhudson | Tarmac: fix st <command> --help hangs | 21:16 |
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| RichiH | once the first release that's usable by rackspace is made, will i be able to a) upgrade a cloud to new versions while it's live and b) run existing machines on newer cloud servers? | 21:20 |
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| rlucio | Ryan_Lane: sry i was out at lunch.. did you get the whole serial console thing ironed out? | 21:21 |
| creiht | RichiH: For object storage (swift), I can say yes, as we already have to do that for Cloud Files | 21:22 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #715424 in nova "nova-manage : create network crashes when subnet range provided is not enough" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715424 | 21:31 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #715427 in nova "nova-manage : create network doesn't check if the fixed_ips are already existing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715427 | 21:36 |
| vvuksan1 | what service is responsible for kicking off nova-dhcpbridge in flatdhcp mode ? | 21:37 |
| vvuksan1 | i have nova-compute running on the machine but it doesn't seem to kick off dnsmasq | 21:38 |
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| berendt | vvuksan1: nova-dhcpbrige should be started by dnsmasq | 21:49 |
| vvuksan1 | not the other way around ? | 21:50 |
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| soren | Right. | 21:51 |
| berendt | vvuksan1: dnsmasq --strict-order --bind-interfaces --conf-file= --domain=example.com --pid-file=/var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.pid --listen-address=192.168.0.1 --except-interface=lo --dhcp-range=192.168.0.3,static,120s --dhcp-hostsfile=/var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.conf --dhcp-script=/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge --leasefile-ro | 21:51 |
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| soren | nova-dhcpbridge is a script called by dnsmasq to inform nova about state transitions and such. | 21:51 |
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| vvuksan1 | so i got it working somehow on one node | 21:52 |
| vvuksan1 | however on the other node it's not working | 21:53 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #715443 in nova "EC2 APIs Create Keypairs/Security Groups etc above database column limits gives wierd results" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/715443 | 21:56 |
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| vvuksan1 | soren: question is which daemon actually invokes nova-dhcpbridge ? | 22:02 |
| vvuksan1 | is it nova-compute ? | 22:02 |
| vvuksan1 | or something else | 22:02 |
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| vishy | vvuksan1: it is dnsmasq | 22:08 |
| vishy | vvuksan1: (dnsmasq is started by nova-network) | 22:08 |
| vvuksan1 | ok that is what I was looking for :-) | 22:09 |
| vvuksan1 | so on compute nodes I need nova-compute and nova-network | 22:09 |
| vvuksan1 | right ? | 22:09 |
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| vvuksan1 | also if I have both of those running and dnsmasq is not being started up | 22:11 |
| vvuksan1 | where would I look :-/ | 22:11 |
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| vishy | it doesn't get started up | 22:12 |
| vishy | it gets called whenever a lease changes | 22:12 |
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| vvuksan1 | so nova-compute kicks off a machine | 22:12 |
| vvuksan1 | but there is no dnsmasq running so it never gets an IP :-/ | 22:12 |
| vishy | ah | 22:12 |
| vishy | nova-network kicks off dnsmasq | 22:12 |
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| vvuksan1 | and nova-network is running | 22:13 |
| vvuksan1 | but nothing happens | 22:13 |
| vishy | which networking mode? | 22:13 |
| vvuksan1 | flatdhcp | 22:13 |
| vvuksan1 | unless nova-network didn't register itself ? | 22:13 |
| vishy | have you set --network_host | 22:13 |
| vishy | ? | 22:13 |
| vvuksan1 | in the services table | 22:13 |
| vishy | in flat modes, network host is based on the flag | 22:14 |
| vvuksan1 | i did not set network_host | 22:14 |
| vishy | for example nova-compute --network_host=<some hostname where nova-network is running> | 22:14 |
| vishy | or set it in nova.conf on the compute hosts | 22:14 |
| vvuksan1 | --network_host=127.0.0.1 ? | 22:14 |
| vishy | no | 22:15 |
| vishy | hostname | 22:15 |
| vvuksan1 | ah | 22:15 |
| vishy | is nova-network running on the same box as nova-compute? | 22:15 |
| vvuksan1 | yes | 22:15 |
| vishy | that is odd, it should work by default then | 22:15 |
| vvuksan1 | this may be something that is not a typical setup | 22:15 |
| vvuksan1 | and hopefully you can shed some light | 22:15 |
| vishy | do you get any errors in nova-network log? | 22:16 |
| vvuksan1 | no errors | 22:16 |
| vvuksan1 | but let me get this straight | 22:16 |
| vishy | and you get nothing for ps ax | grep dnsmasq? | 22:16 |
| vishy | it should start dnsmasq when it starts | 22:16 |
| vvuksan1 | for flatdhcp there should be a single nova-network daemon on the whole network | 22:16 |
| vvuksan1 | correct ? | 22:16 |
| vishy | yes | 22:16 |
| vvuksan1 | yeah I dont' see dnsmasq | 22:16 |
| vvuksan1 | so that is my problem | 22:16 |
| vvuksan1 | basically what I'm doing | 22:16 |
| vishy | yeah that is odd | 22:16 |
| vvuksan1 | I have two hosts | 22:16 |
| vvuksan1 | i don't control the infrastructure only hosts | 22:17 |
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| vvuksan1 | it's all internal work so no external IPs needed | 22:17 |
| vvuksan1 | i was gonna use br100 -> 192.168.0.0/24 | 22:17 |
| vvuksan1 | then use 10.x for floating IPs | 22:17 |
| vvuksan1 | would that even work ? | 22:18 |
| vishy | yes | 22:18 |
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| vvuksan1 | but then I would have to have different projects on different hosts ? | 22:18 |
| vvuksan1 | so that nova-network can be unique for each host ? | 22:19 |
| vishy | no, projects only correlate with networks in vlan mode | 22:19 |
| vvuksan1 | but there can only be one nova-network in flatdhcp | 22:19 |
| vishy | well you could have more than one, but i would recommend only 1 | 22:20 |
| vvuksan1 | how do I tell nova-network to launch dnsmasq foron each host ? | 22:20 |
| vishy | it doesn't | 22:20 |
| vishy | it only runs on the network host | 22:20 |
| vvuksan1 | right | 22:21 |
| vvuksan1 | but let's say you have multiple physical machines | 22:21 |
| vvuksan1 | you can get IPs assigned for eth0 | 22:21 |
| vvuksan1 | you don't care what IP is on br100 as long as floating IP on eth0 gets mapped to it | 22:22 |
| vvuksan1 | question is can that be done | 22:22 |
| vishy | not with running dnsmasq on multiple hosts | 22:23 |
| vvuksan1 | i'm fine with that :-) | 22:23 |
| vishy | at least not with some complicated custom networking | 22:23 |
| vvuksan1 | i just don't see dnsmasq getting kicked off on host2 | 22:23 |
| vishy | is it getting kicked off on host1? | 22:24 |
| vvuksan1 | it looks like it | 22:24 |
| vvuksan1 | it does | 22:24 |
| vishy | so on host2 | 22:24 |
| vvuksan1 | and now I see the missing IPs being added on host1 | 22:24 |
| vishy | network_host=host1 | 22:24 |
| kbringard | shouldn't the uptables rules be forwarding packets to the host running nova-network? | 22:25 |
| vishy | and it should work | 22:25 |
| vvuksan1 | cause I killed nova-compute on host1 | 22:25 |
| kbringard | and I meant iptables | 22:25 |
| vishy | which iptables rules? | 22:25 |
| kbringard | oh wait, I'm thinking of vlan mode | 22:25 |
| kbringard | sorry | 22:25 |
| kbringard | ignore me :-) | 22:25 |
| vvuksan1 | vishy: that's a bit of problem :-) | 22:27 |
| vvuksan1 | vishy: cause that will add IPs on br100 on host1 | 22:27 |
| vvuksan1 | and not host2 | 22:27 |
| vvuksan1 | and I don't want to be the DHCP server on eth0 | 22:27 |
| vishy | vvuksan1: why is that a problem? | 22:27 |
| vishy | nova-network is the gateway for all of the vms | 22:28 |
| vvuksan1 | right | 22:28 |
| vvuksan1 | but shouldn't than network_host be host2 | 22:28 |
| vvuksan1 | as that is the machine I want VMs kicked off on ? | 22:28 |
| vishy | no | 22:28 |
| vishy | network_host is the name of the host that is running nova-network | 22:29 |
| vishy | whichever host is running nova-network | 22:29 |
| kbringard | so only one host can be running nova-network, right? | 22:29 |
| kbringard | one host per availability zone | 22:29 |
| vishy | set --network_host on both boxes to that hostname | 22:29 |
| vvuksan1 | what if both host1 and host2 are running nova-network ? | 22:29 |
| vishy | then you need to give a different network to each host | 22:30 |
| vvuksan1 | different dhcp network ? | 22:30 |
| vishy | and instances won't be able to talk to each other over private ips unless you set up iptables/routing rules between the hosts | 22:31 |
| vvuksan1 | which is fine | 22:31 |
| vvuksan1 | they'll talk over floating IPs | 22:31 |
| vishy | floating ips may work | 22:31 |
| vvuksan1 | how do you assign different networks to different machines ? | 22:32 |
| vvuksan1 | additionally regarding floating IPs do you assign a pool of floating IPs on per machine basis ? | 22:32 |
| vishy | create two networks | 22:33 |
| vishy | change the host in the db | 22:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | rlucio: not yet, but I need to wait until the packages include the console services, really | 22:33 |
| vishy | vvuksan1: yes to floating ips | 22:33 |
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| vvuksan1 | vishy: this is all starting to make sense now :-) | 22:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | though I'm going to see if I can connect to a console using that upstart provided :) | 22:34 |
| vishy | nova-manage floating create <host> <range> | 22:34 |
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| vvuksan1 | vishy: nice | 22:34 |
| vvuksan1 | vishy: thanks a lot :-) | 22:35 |
| vvuksan1 | i shall write this up | 22:35 |
| vishy | yw | 22:35 |
| vvuksan1 | vishy: speaking of which, kbringard wrote up his VLAN setup http://wiki.openstack.org/VlanNetworkSetup | 22:35 |
| vishy | cool | 22:36 |
| kbringard | we are essentially using projects as a way to logically name and tag the broadcast domains netops gives us | 22:36 |
| vishy | kbringard: why are you hacking the define instead of just passing --vlan_interface=eth1 in the flagfile or command line? | 22:38 |
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| kbringard | vishy: because I didn't know I could specify vlan_interface on the command line :-) | 22:39 |
| vvuksan1 | quick | 22:39 |
| vvuksan1 | fix the doc :-) | 22:39 |
| vishy | all flags can be set using --xxxx on the command line | 22:39 |
| vishy | or in the conf file | 22:39 |
| vishy | that is the point of the flags :) | 22:39 |
| kbringard | well right, I just didn't realize that was a flag I guess | 22:40 |
| kbringard | I need to run, I'll bbl | 22:40 |
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| vishy | kbringard: might be nice to port that setup to a new manager at some point | 22:40 |
| vishy | oops | 22:40 |
| vvuksan1 | i'll remind him :-) | 22:41 |
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| Ryan_Lane | so, if the instance is running "/sbin/getty -L 115200 ttyS0 xterm", and the qemu process launched it with "-append root=/dev/vda console=ttyS0", I should be able to use "virsh console <domainnumber>" right? | 22:44 |
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| evtoews | #openstack-meeting | 22:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm getting "No console available for domain" | 22:45 |
| soren | vvuksan1: dnsmasq invokes it. | 22:45 |
| dendrobates | evtoews: you missed it | 22:45 |
| vvuksan1 | soren: vishy was able to explain it | 22:45 |
| vvuksan1 | soren: i am using things somewhat atypically | 22:46 |
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| vishy | Ryan_Lane: console stuff is a little tricky | 22:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm seeing that :) | 22:50 |
| vishy | i had a debug script that modified libvirt.xml to make it work | 22:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah | 22:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm looking at that | 22:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | in tools | 22:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | this is defined in my xml: <console type='pty' tty='/dev/pts/2'> | 22:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | with source path, and target properly defined | 22:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | err | 22:51 |
| Ryan_Lane | port | 22:51 |
| vishy | you might need to pull out the existing ports in | 22:52 |
| vishy | stuff | 22:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | eh? | 22:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | the other two definitions cause problems with it? | 22:52 |
| vishy | i think the additions for ajaxwebconsole | 22:52 |
| vishy | may cause issues | 22:52 |
| vishy | i would pull out the other serial defs | 22:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | that's what I'm trying to get working :) | 22:53 |
| vishy | oh | 22:53 |
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| vishy | yes console doesn't work | 22:53 |
| vishy | with both in | 22:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | ahhh | 22:53 |
| vishy | it isn't able to figure out that there are two | 22:53 |
| vishy | that is why ajaxwebconsole uses some sneaky trick to find the char device directly | 22:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | oh. so it's either webconsole, or virsh? | 22:53 |
| vishy | correct | 22:54 |
| vishy | well | 22:54 |
| vishy | you can use webconsole + virsh if you get rid of the file console for getconsoleoutput | 22:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | eh | 22:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | well, that would mean people can't see the console output without actually connecting to a console, right? | 22:54 |
| vishy | it is the file based console + the pts console that breaks virsh | 22:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | I see | 22:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | that's a pain | 22:54 |
| vishy | it was the easiest way to get it in | 22:55 |
| vishy | alternatively we needed to create a little proxy of somesort that forwards data from the serial port and also logs to a file | 22:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah. it's no big deal. I was just going to test using virsh for now, since the packages don't have the web console in them right now :) | 22:56 |
| vishy | but it seems to work properly with 2 entries as long as you don't mind virsh console not working | 22:56 |
| Ryan_Lane | I can live without virsh console | 22:56 |
| Ryan_Lane | is there any way to enable vnc access? | 22:57 |
| evtoews | dendrobates: oops. just taking a look through the meeting log now. thx. http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack-meeting/2011/openstack-meeting.2011-02-08-21.00.log.html | 22:57 |
| vishy | we missed web-console in the release? | 22:57 |
| vishy | Ryan_Lane: yessir | 22:57 |
| Ryan_Lane | the proxy service, for sure | 22:57 |
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| Ryan_Lane | I was thinking about adding guacamole support at some point | 22:57 |
| vishy | you can also add a vnc console in the devices section: | 22:58 |
| vishy | # <graphics type='vnc' port='5901' listen='<host_ip>' passwd='<password>'/> | 22:58 |
| vishy | i did that when i was testing windows | 22:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | could add it as a console driver, now that there is a class for it :) | 22:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | guacamole would be useful for windows | 22:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | or for ubuntu, if it has X, and such | 22:59 |
| * vishy doesn't know guacamole | 22:59 | |
| Ryan_Lane | http://guacamole.sourceforge.net/ | 22:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | html5 based vnc client | 22:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | using canvas | 22:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | has a proxy to vnc | 23:00 |
| vishy | oh nice, yeah we were talking about doing html5 vnc | 23:00 |
| vishy | the problem is that the vnc proxy is xen specific | 23:00 |
| Ryan_Lane | may be a little heavy weight, since you need to run a tomcat servlet for each proxied instance | 23:00 |
| vishy | we need something that is more general | 23:00 |
| Ryan_Lane | guacamole is a proxy too | 23:00 |
| vishy | does it have security built in like what we did for ajaxconsole? | 23:01 |
| Ryan_Lane | username/password I believe | 23:02 |
| Ryan_Lane | can likely make it work | 23:02 |
| Ryan_Lane | by setting it in the xml file, and passing it in via url | 23:02 |
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| Ryan_Lane | username can be generic, then can set the password to the token | 23:03 |
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