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| termie | sandywalsh: how well does python-cloudservers currently work against our api? | 00:49 |
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| MikeZ2 | Could I trouble sombody to give me a link to doc on how to create a machine image for openstack. I want to run something besides what came in images.tgz and everything I've tried doesn't generate 3 image files (running on ubuntu 10.04.02) | 00:54 |
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| termie | MikeZ2: gut instinct says you can probably copy two of the existing kernel/ramdisk files | 00:55 |
| termie | MikeZ2: but you may want to wait for somebody who has actually done this recently | 00:56 |
| MikeZ2 | termie: Thanks for the response. I'm shocked that it's so difficult to find | 00:57 |
| termie | MikeZ2: i think it is one of those things where everybody involved assumes some common knowledge that isn't actually common | 00:58 |
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| kpepple | MikeZ2: do you really want a custom image or just a more functional image ? | 01:07 |
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| MikeZ2 | kpepple: I was hoping to create a a std ubuntu tiny image with some minor customizations, but if it's more std, then I can install the rest myself | 01:45 |
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| kpepple | MikeZ2: i'm using the maverick-server-uec-amd64.img and then customizing with chef/puppet | 01:47 |
| kpepple | MikeZ2: i am assuming following the UEC image creation (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CreateYourImage) would work for openstack also ... | 01:48 |
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| sandywalsh | termie, the cloudservers branch on github works great. The stock one won't work since you can't change the Auth URL | 01:55 |
| sandywalsh | termie, use novatools from github ... it's a fork of cloudservers that supports everything. | 01:55 |
| xtoddx | It looks like quite a few xml libraries are in use, but there are comments to move everything to etree (from minidom and libxml2), and we already use etree. Should I file a blueprint to "Standardize XML library" or just assign bugs to the people that wrote TODOs in code to make the change? | 02:00 |
| kpepple | xtoddx: did you see the earlier question about logging ? | 02:09 |
| xtoddx | i've been chatting with vish about it a bit, but i missed any irc convo | 02:10 |
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| kpepple | xtoddx: ok ... it seems we have more than a few bugs logged on logging (very meta) ... just thinking we should take a consistent approach to the problem and not the symptoms. | 02:11 |
| xtoddx | kpepple: are these all related to verbosity? | 02:11 |
| xtoddx | kpepple: i've seen soren's patch for rotation, i'm assuming that is unrelated, since it has landed | 02:12 |
| kpepple | xtoddx: yes, log.level | 02:12 |
| xtoddx | kpepple: so the problem is the log setup, and having it know how verbose it should be BEFORE other modules are imported? | 02:12 |
| xtoddx | kpepple: would INFO and a default StreamHandler solve the problems? | 02:13 |
| kpepple | xtoddx: exactly ... we are parsing flags after creating logs handlers and setting logging levels | 02:13 |
| kpepple | xtoddx: not sure ... we would need to set all the logs to DEBUG, then reset the levels once we parse the flags | 02:14 |
| xtoddx | kpepple: defaulting to debug seems bizarre. | 02:15 |
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| xtoddx | kpepple: what vish and i proposed was to make log.basicConfig safe to be run multiple times. run it once on import to default to INFO on STDERR, and run it again after flags are parsed to actually do what the user has configured in flags | 02:16 |
| kpepple | xtoddx: ahhh ... got it. but how do we tell the libraries to re-run basicConfig ? it's currently run during import ... | 02:17 |
| kpepple | xtoddx: i'd be fine with do away with log handlers for each support library (they don't add much since we get file and linenumber) which would also fix our problem | 02:18 |
| kpepple | xtoddx: just logging everything (utils.py, rpc.py, etc) under nova.root ... | 02:19 |
| xtoddx | kpepple: it shouldn't be up to the libraries to re-run it, the binary should do it, since it has the responsibility for loading flags | 02:19 |
| xtoddx | kpepple: we could just make sure basicConfig is run during calls to getLogger | 02:19 |
| xtoddx | kpepple: we may need to reorder imports to put log above the other nova libraries (maybe?) | 02:20 |
| xtoddx | kpepple: i'm not well versed in the ways this actually rears its ugly head, so its hard for me to be too sure | 02:21 |
| kpepple | xtoddx: am okay with any of these solutions ... we just need to standardize so that we can close out the bugs. can you send something to the alias about the proposed resolution ? most of our binaries will need tweaks to support this ... | 02:21 |
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| Code_Bleu | im still having issues with connecting to an instance. One thing i have noticed is that it is not taking the settings i have in the network table of the database for "dhcp_start" address. I have edited and restarted about everything i know, and it still doesnt seem to work. I basically want to set the networking up so that the vm instances will obtain and ip addr from my dhcp server on my local network. I first tried the default VLA | 03:03 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #721632 in nova "Incorrent images date format of OS API w/ Glance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721632 | 03:21 |
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| vishy | Code_Bleu: it is a bit challenging to make it interface with another dhcp server | 04:27 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: i have read the documentation a 100 times and from what i understand the FlatDHCPManager uses dnsmasq to do a dhcpdiscover and is pulling ip addresses to the instances via the bridge interface | 04:29 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: im trying the FlatDHCPManager configuration again to see if i can get it to work. | 04:29 |
| vishy | correct | 04:34 |
| vishy | are you running all on one box? | 04:34 |
| jarrod | so does VlanManager | 04:34 |
| vishy | the configuration should be pretty simple | 04:39 |
| vishy | you should just be able to set the flag and create a network | 04:39 |
| vishy | i suggest you start with a clean db though | 04:39 |
| jarrod | vishy: is there anyway to not use dnsmasq but to have the public ip assigned directly to the instance? | 04:39 |
| vishy | not easily | 04:39 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: yes, im running all on one box. How do you recommend i start over? how do i get a clean db? | 04:45 |
| Code_Bleu | i have one physical interface eth0, the bridge interface that was created br100, and virbr0 and vlan100 interfaces | 04:47 |
| Code_Bleu | im still having trouble getting this to work, so any help would be appreciated | 04:48 |
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| Code_Bleu | vishy: when you said start with a clean db...did you mean just clean out everything in the networks, ips, floating_ips tables? | 04:49 |
| Code_Bleu | if im using the FlatDHCPManager, do i need to run the nova-manage network create <cidr> n n command? | 04:49 |
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| Code_Bleu | vishy: what do i need these settings set to...or do i even need them set at all? --flat_interfac= and --flat_injected= I have the --public_interface set to eth0 | 04:54 |
| vishy | i meant rm nova.sqlite | 04:56 |
| vishy | drop the table in mysql | 04:56 |
| vishy | if you use mysql | 04:56 |
| vishy | yes | 04:56 |
| vishy | you do need to use network create | 04:56 |
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| vishy | the first two don't matter on one box | 04:58 |
| vishy | just leave them | 04:58 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: i just cleared out the network table. so when i run the network create, do i use my local network settings? My local net is 10.0.0.0 subnet..so when i run the network create, use that? | 04:59 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: everytime i do the network create with 10.0.0.0/24 2 255 it errors out and puts wrong info in the table and i have to manually edit it. it makes my broadcast 10.0.0.127 instead of 255, and it makes my subnet 255.255.255.248 instead of 255.255.255.0 | 05:00 |
| vishy | that setting makes no sense | 05:01 |
| vishy | i mean that command | 05:01 |
| vishy | nova-network create 10.0.0.0/24 1 256 | 05:01 |
| vishy | is what you want | 05:01 |
| vishy | one network of 256 addresses | 05:02 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: but my default gw is 10.0.0.2, not 1 | 05:02 |
| vishy | doesn't matter | 05:02 |
| vishy | wait | 05:02 |
| vishy | wait | 05:02 |
| vishy | what? | 05:02 |
| vishy | your host has a 10/x ip? | 05:02 |
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| vishy | you are going to have route conflicts between guests and hosts then | 05:03 |
| Code_Bleu | yes...i know thats not a private range address..but its all internal natted behind a firewall | 05:03 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: how is that? | 05:03 |
| vishy | what is the ip of your host machine? | 05:03 |
| Code_Bleu | its on the 10.0.0.0/24 | 05:04 |
| vishy | ok so you want to use a different range for fixed_ips of instances | 05:04 |
| vishy | if you want public addresses, use floading_ips | 05:04 |
| vishy | s/floading/floating | 05:04 |
| Code_Bleu | im confused...can i not just have the vms i create bridge through the host interface and get dhcp address from my local network? | 05:05 |
| vishy | no | 05:06 |
| vishy | it will mess up a number of things | 05:06 |
| vishy | like metadata | 05:06 |
| vishy | for example | 05:06 |
| Code_Bleu | i dont care about public addresses on the vms..i would just nat to them | 05:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #721646 in nova "vpn image fails to pick up kernel and ramdisk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721646 | 05:06 |
| vishy | yes but if you use floating ips you can give them ips on the 10.0.0.0/24 | 05:07 |
| vishy | and they can still have private fixed_ips | 05:07 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: ok, so what do i need to do to get this to work? | 05:07 |
| vishy | pick a different range for your fixed ips | 05:08 |
| vishy | say 10.128.0.0/16 | 05:08 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: i thought you said i could use the same 10.0.0.0/24? | 05:08 |
| vishy | not for fixed_ips | 05:08 |
| vishy | for floating_ips | 05:09 |
| vishy | so use --fixed_range=10.128.0.0/16 | 05:09 |
| vishy | in your flagfile | 05:10 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: so can i use floating ips and specify the range that my internal dchp server doesnt use ( so there wouldnt be a conflict ) | 05:10 |
| vishy | then create your network with something like nova-manage network create 10.128.0.0/24 1 256 | 05:10 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: sorry im just not getting it...im almost getting it. thanks for trying to explain all this | 05:10 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: i thought you said i could use 10.0.0.0/24? | 05:11 |
| vishy | once you get that working | 05:11 |
| Code_Bleu | with floating | 05:11 |
| vishy | we'll deal with floating ips | 05:11 |
| vishy | ok? | 05:11 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: ok. im just wondering if i used fixed of 10.128.0.0 how my other servers on the 10.0.0.0 network would communicate with them | 05:12 |
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| vishy | you're going to give them floating ips | 05:15 |
| vishy | :) | 05:15 |
| vishy | alternatively | 05:15 |
| vishy | on the host you can add a route to 10.128.0.0/16 on the host | 05:16 |
| vishy | wow I'm from the department of redundancy department | 05:16 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: sorry...ok ill just do it and maybe i will understand better once i see it working | 05:17 |
| vishy | yes | 05:17 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: ok so what do i need to do first? | 05:18 |
| vishy | delete your db | 05:18 |
| vishy | rm /var/lib/nova/nova.sqlite | 05:18 |
| Code_Bleu | im using mysql | 05:18 |
| vishy | ok drop and recreate the db then | 05:19 |
| vishy | then add --fixed_range=10.128.0.0/16 to /etc/nova/nova.conf | 05:19 |
| vishy | then do nova-manage db sync | 05:19 |
| vishy | nova-manage network create 10.128.0.0/24 1 256 | 05:19 |
| vishy | and you should be good | 05:19 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: ok i will try and let you know | 05:21 |
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| Code_Bleu | vishy: what manager? FlatDHCP or Flat? | 05:23 |
| vishy | FlatDHCP (or vlan) | 05:26 |
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| Code_Bleu | vishy: the status of the instance is staying on "networking" I will try to restart the host and see if that fixes it. I didnt put any network manager settings in nova.conf because the default is VLAN | 05:37 |
| vishy | cool | 05:38 |
| vishy | do you have fixed_range set? | 05:38 |
| vishy | is there an error message in /var/log/nova/nova-network.log | 05:38 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: yes the fixed range is set. also i see entries in the fixed_ips in the sql db too | 05:40 |
| vishy | and error messages? | 05:40 |
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| Code_Bleu | vishy: here is the error messages: http://pastebin.com/vPgVX35a | 05:46 |
| vishy | are you running from ubuntu packages? | 05:48 |
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| Code_Bleu | yes, i installed this via the documentation for manual install..and im running it on ubuntu 10.10 | 05:50 |
| vishy | looks like you need to set --dhcpbridge and --dhcpbridge_flagfile | 05:50 |
| vishy | they are set usually in the default conf | 05:50 |
| vishy | in ubuntu | 05:50 |
| vishy | maybe you lost them somehow? | 05:51 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: thats my fault then..i thought since i wasnt doing the dhcp, that i didnt need those settings...so i removed them | 05:51 |
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| Code_Bleu | vishy: ok, now my instance has an ip, now im back to my original problem. I cant ping or ssh to the instance from the host | 05:57 |
| vishy | any messages in nova network log? | 05:58 |
| vishy | you should see leased ip messages | 05:58 |
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| vishy | also if you do ps ax | grep dnsmasq you should see two processes running with long command lines | 05:59 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: i dont see any new errors | 06:02 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: i have 3 processes running | 06:02 |
| vishy | hmm | 06:03 |
| vishy | that is a problem | 06:03 |
| vishy | killall dnsmasq and restart nova-network | 06:03 |
| Code_Bleu | 2 are for the 10.128.0 network..and one is for the virbr0 interface that i guess was automatically created | 06:04 |
| vishy | that other one is probably interfering | 06:04 |
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| Code_Bleu | vishy: ok there are only 2 now, and it still doesnt work. where did that virbr0 come from then? I have a feeling that when i restart networking on the host that it will come back in the dnsmasq | 06:07 |
| vishy | it is a libvirt thing | 06:07 |
| vishy | ok did you start a new instance? | 06:07 |
| vishy | try euca-get-console-output <instance_id> | 06:08 |
| vishy | and see if there is anything interesting there | 06:08 |
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| Code_Bleu | vishy: yes, i keep terminating the instance and creating new ones. i just tried to reboot the instance this last time and it still says rebooting | 06:11 |
| vishy | is this a 64 bit host? | 06:11 |
| Code_Bleu | this is what i get from console output: euca-get-console-output i-00000029 | 06:14 |
| Code_Bleu | i-00000029 | 06:14 |
| Code_Bleu | 2011-02-19 06:13:42.037863 | 06:14 |
| Code_Bleu | no, its 32bit | 06:14 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: just ran the get console again..and there is a bunch of stuff now...maybe i should just give it a few min and try pinging again...i do have this on a server that prob doesnt have enough resources...im not wanting to use this host in production...i just want to test and play with openstack to learn is all | 06:20 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: here are the last few lines from the console output: http://pastebin.com/Q1XB2umJ | 06:23 |
| vishy | well there is your problem | 06:24 |
| vishy | do you have a 32 bit guest? | 06:24 |
| vishy | does your guest actually run dhcp? | 06:25 |
| vishy | you should see dhcp requests showing up in syslog | 06:25 |
| vishy | on the host | 06:25 |
| Code_Bleu | yes its 32bit guest. I downloaded the image from ubuntu's site. I would assume its dhcp | 06:28 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: syslog: http://pastebin.com/Lzc8waS0 | 06:31 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: just noticed that log says instance i-00000028 but the instance currently running is i-00000029 | 06:32 |
| Code_Bleu | vishy: ok that syslog pastebin i just posted is from a previous instance. there is nothing new in the syslog for the current instance | 06:34 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #721660 in nova "api is incredibly slow with ldap due to user.is_admin() lookups" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721660 | 06:56 |
| vishy | example: DHCPREQUEST of 10.128.13.3 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 | 07:04 |
| vishy | DHCPACK of 10.128.13.3 from 10.128.13.1 | 07:05 |
| vishy | things like that | 07:06 |
| Code_Bleu | im not sure what size the ramdisk is or anything about this image. i just downloaded a 32bit image off of ubuntu's uec site. I dont think its going to boot. its been stuck at a bunch of udevd errors for a while now. | 07:17 |
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| vishy | yeah | 07:23 |
| vishy | i would suggest doing it on 64bit | 07:23 |
| vishy | then you can do super easy tests using ami-tty | 07:23 |
| Code_Bleu | unfortunately i dont have any extra 64bit machines...i was hoping to test it out on what pc's i have...oh well. | 07:26 |
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| Code_Bleu | it probably doesnt help that the image im using is an Alpha 2 of Ubuntu Natty server either. prob should try it with a non Alpha/Beta OS | 07:30 |
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| widodh | hello | 08:53 |
| widodh | I've been reading about OpenStack, but one thing is not completely clear to me. The images are provided via a S3 service to the machine running the Virtual Hosts | 08:54 |
| widodh | do writes get commited back instantly to the S3 service? | 08:54 |
| widodh | or does a image get copied to the node where the VM will run, and will the diff's get commited back after it shuts down? | 08:56 |
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| kpepple | widodh: images are copied to the node where the VM will run (usually via a subsystem called glance) | 09:08 |
| kpepple | widodh: for persistent data, you have a volume service in nova | 09:09 |
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| vishy | wow has_role is incredibly slow | 09:30 |
| vishy | must fix | 09:30 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #721701 in nova "time reported by ec2 log is incorrect" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721701 | 09:32 |
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| openstackhudson | Project nova build #540: SUCCESS in 1 min 39 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/540/ | 10:03 |
| openstackhudson | Tarmac: Calculate time correctly for ec2 request logs | 10:03 |
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| widodh | kpepple: tnx! So there is no real distributed storage in OpenStack. If the node where the VM runs burns down, you loose your data | 11:43 |
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| MarkusT | I'm a little confused with release names and numbers. Is http://wiki.openstack.org/Packaging/Ubuntu#Release_PPA up to date (bexar)? Because the packages are "a lot" older than the release date of bexar. | 16:09 |
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| dsockwell | MarkusT: how are you measuring the age of the packages? | 16:53 |
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| MarkusT | dsockwell: Via the "Uploaded by" date. But nevermind, I somehow confused the numbers, they're up to date :-) | 16:57 |
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| MarkusT | dsockwell: But it seems some people at Open Stack might have the same problem. http://openstack.org/projects/compute/ states: Released February 3, 2010, when it should be 2011. :-) | 16:59 |
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| dsockwell | haha | 17:05 |
| dsockwell | yes, it seems like openstack has the classic open source problem where the documentation isn't quite up to speed with the code. | 17:05 |
| dsockwell | the Official Manual seems better than the wiki though | 17:06 |
| dsockwell | http://docs.openstack.org/ | 17:06 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #721867 in nova "Use latest pep8 in pip-requires" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721867 | 18:42 |
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| if_ | Still looking for info on dual NICs configurations for nova... | 19:40 |
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| MarkusT | I'm currently running nova bexar on Ubuntu 10.04. It's working great with a local IP range (192.168.x.x) and now I'd love to connect it to the internet (via euca-associacte-address, etc.). I'm able to use 4 public IPs my hoster provides me, but I can't figure out how to configure networking (bridge, routing). Any pointers to a similar configuration? | 22:33 |
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| NewClouder | Hi everyone | 22:37 |
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