Monday, 2011-03-28

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uvirtbot`New bug: #744056 in nova "RunInstances fail due to state change of _poll_instance_state()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74405606:51
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winston-dAny chance some Swift Dev is still around?07:28
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benbenhappyhi,there are so many companies in openstack community,who knows how to join in the openstack community as a company? Thanks:)08:07
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sorenbenbenhappy: You don't have to do anything in particular. Just start working on stuff.08:19
sorenbenbenhappy: Well, once you have patches, you'll need to sign a participant agreement, but nothing needs to be done up front.08:20
sorenbenbenhappy: It's free software, after all.08:20
sorenbenbenhappy: Some companies do the inverse. They announce "we're joining openstack", and that's the last we ever hear of them.08:21
koolhead11soren, is it compulsory to have cloud controller and nova-controller both on separate box?08:23
sorenkoolhead11: I've no idea what a "cloud controller" nor a "nova-controller" is.08:23
sorenAnd even less of an idea how they're different.08:23
koolhead11soren, sorry compute controller08:26
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benbenhappysoren : Thanks08:32
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sorenkoolhead11: So what is the question now?08:35
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ttxsoren: https://code.launchpad.net/~justin-fathomdb/nova/avoid-mixins-on-tests/+merge/53714 has 2 core approvals, should be good to go.09:01
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sorenttx: Yeah, good stuff.09:18
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uvirtbot`New bug: #744110 in nova "Two periodic_tasks sneaked in nova/compute/manager.py" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74411009:48
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koolhead11soren, thanks10:33
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n1md4pvo: thanks for replying. I was prolly only going to say that my pending instance issues where no doubt an issue with the old hardware not supporting AMD-V.10:40
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n1md4pvo: If you remember, I had 3 questions, I think you've answer one of them, here are the other 2:-10:42
n1md4ii) I still can't actually connect to *any* instance! How can I do that iii) soren mentioned that FlatManager is not great, but didn't say what I should be using10:42
n1md4I'm guessing the questions are related, and solving one will answer the other :)10:43
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dzdericHey everyone10:50
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dzdericI was just wondering: is there any downside to having non-RAID'd hard drives on servers and using RBD for redundancy?10:50
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sandywalsho/10:55
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uvirtbot`New bug: #744150 in nova "unit tests fail if nova-api is running on the system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74415011:06
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sorensandywalsh: Dude.11:12
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sorensandywalsh: It turns out, I'm an idiot: https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/include-test-extensions/+merge/5486911:14
sandywalshsoren, I saw that ... did you figure out what the problem was?11:17
sandywalshI guess it was including the farm?11:17
sorensandywalsh: Yes, two things:11:17
sorensandywalsh: I did run the unit tests locally. Only, I must have done it in the wrong directory.11:18
sorenwell, three things:11:18
sandywalshsoren, well, it's equally my fault for not running the tests. Sorry about that. Seemed so innocent :)11:18
sorenWhen I went to try to reproduce it on the hudson box (outside of Jenkins), I seem to have just checkout out lp:nova, and forgetting to merge my branch on top..11:18
soren...and third, the actual problem: Attempting to include __init__ and finding a correspondingly named class inside.11:19
sorenThe two first, I have no patch for. The last one should now be addresssed :)11:19
sorensandywalsh: Heh :)11:19
sandywalshheh, indeed. Always good some fun on a Friday huh?11:20
sorenFriday afternoons... Gotta love 'em.11:20
sandywalshsoren, well, I've learned my lesson from it :)11:20
sandywalsh(always, always run the tests)11:20
sorenYeah. I learned that a couple of weeks ago when I managed to propose two branches in a row that failed the tests.11:21
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sorenThis time, I learned that I need to run the test suite in the right directory.11:21
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sorenOtherwise, it apparantly doesn't count.11:22
sandywalshsoren, I need to flush my branch directory ... it's far too full. I can see making the same mistake11:22
* sandywalsh does so now11:22
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soren$ du src/openstack/nova -s11:23
soren3503952src/openstack/nova11:23
sorenHmm... Yeah. Good idea.11:23
sandywalshha, yup, it's time11:24
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n1md4soren: hey, good morning :)  Quick question, which network manager would you recommend?  I'm using FlatManager at the moment.11:28
sorenn1md4: Not that one :)11:28
sorenn1md4: Any other one.11:28
sorenn1md4: Depends on what you need, but I guess FlatDHCPManager is a good choice.11:29
sorenI use VlanManager. Not for any particularly good reason. For my use case it doesn't really matter much.11:29
n1md4soren: thanks :)  I'm not really sure of my need yet (which always makes things difficult) I'm just practising.  I guess my need would be for it to be as automated as possible.11:30
sorenThe choice of network manager won't make much of a difference in that respect.11:30
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n1md4soren: well, my biggest issue now is not being able to connect to instances.  I'd like to be able to start them up, and have all network configured automagically; dhcp would work for me.11:32
sorenThat's what DCHP was made for.11:33
n1md4soren: yah, well, dhcp I know, openstack ... i'm learning ;)11:33
n1md4thanks11:33
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zigo-_-soren: Hi !11:47
soreno/11:47
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uvirtbot`New bug: #744217 in nova "Zones needs to support servers.get_all" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74421712:12
uvirtbot`New bug: #744224 in nova "Zones needs to support ancillary server functions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74422412:12
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sorenuvirtbot`: nick uvirtbot12:15
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sorenjaypipes: Dude.12:17
sorenjaypipes: 11:14 <+soren> sandywalsh: It turns out, I'm an idiot: https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/include-test-extensions/+merge/5486912:17
n1md4pvo: The pending instances where because of my hardware lacking virtualization, flashed bios sorted it though.12:24
n1md4s/where/were/12:24
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sandywalshsoren, so the problem was the extensions were recursively loading the module based because of __init__.py?12:32
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sandywalshsoren, and this patch adds the [0] = '_' check to prevent it?12:32
sorensandywalsh: No, just that the extensions loader thingamajig expecting to find code in every .py file in the extensions dir.12:32
sorensandywalsh: ...and __init__.py has no code, let alone code that satisfies the loader's additional requirements (whatever they are (I forget)).12:33
sandywalshsoren, so how was attempting to load __init__.py causing all those failures?12:33
sandywalshah12:33
sandywalshit's the additional code part12:33
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sandywalshsoren, so, should the check be done to skip _ files or rather handle bad extensions better?12:34
sorensandywalsh: I think skipping _ files is sensible.12:34
sandywalshsoren, certainly easier :)12:35
sorensandywalsh: It seems a common pattern, and having an error occur if you screw up an extension sounds like a nice thing.12:35
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sandywalshsoren, I'm surprised the _check_extension method didn't pick up on it ... looking at imp.load_source()12:36
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jaypipessoren: hehe, sounds like we're *all* a bit of an idiot for not catching that during review. :)12:39
sorensandywalsh: Uh... where do you see the code for load_source?12:40
jaypipessoren: I would argue for a warning, not an error. For instance, you place a new extension in the directory and restart. Boom! Now you have to diagnose the problem while Nova is down (or remove the extension from the dir). I think would be better to raise a warning with a good message and go from there...12:40
jaypipessandywalsh: ^^ ?12:40
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sandywalshsoren, jaypipes I just did a little experiment and imp.load_source() can load tests/api/os/ext/__init__.py no problem. I'm wondering where the real issue is?12:43
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sorensandywalsh: Oh, sure, it can load the module.12:44
soren                    new_ext = getattr(mod, ext_name)()12:45
sorenGoes boom.12:45
sorenIn nova/api/openstack/extensions.py12:45
* jaypipes goes boom.12:45
sandywalshsoren, and the AttrError doesn't catch it?12:46
jaypipessandywalsh: None() doesn't do too well ;)12:46
sorenClearly not: https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/include-test-extensions/+merge/5486912:46
sorenActually, __init__ does work, apparantly.12:46
sorenIt's a class method of the module class.12:46
soren..but it wants a name argument.12:47
soren...and doesn't get it.12:47
sandywalshjaypipes, so, should we have a 'if new_ext:' check before calling the function?12:47
jaypipessandywalsh: yup.12:47
sandywalshsounds safer12:48
jaypipesyuppers.12:48
sorenNo.12:48
sandywalsh:)12:48
sorenThat won't work.12:48
sandywalshjaypipes, getattr throws AttrError. Doesn't return None12:50
jaypipessandywalsh: well poopy. a try block then.12:50
n1md4how can I terminate *all* instances?  At the moment I'm using euca-terminate-instances, but this has to be done piece-meal, I want to be able to nuke the lot!12:50
sandywalshjaypipes, except Exception: you mean?12:51
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sorenhttp://pastebin.com/jqa4neh912:51
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sandywalshsoren, what do you get calling bar() ?12:52
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sorenA module object, I suppose.12:53
* soren tries12:53
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sorenAh, no, as I said above:12:53
soren12:47 <+soren> ..but it wants a name argument.12:53
soren12:47 <+soren> ...and doesn't get it.12:53
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sorenIf I give it a name kwarg, I get None back.12:54
sandywalshhmm, somewhere it has to be throwing an exception12:54
sorenSure.12:55
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sorenTypeError: Required argument 'name' (pos 1) not found12:55
sorenThis only happens for __init__.12:55
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sorenso you can add both checks, and you're golden.12:55
sandywalshyeah, sounds like a good idea (for the reason jaypipes mentioned)12:56
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avishayHello all.  I'm trying to set up swift, and I have some rsync errors in /var/log/messages (permission denied).  Can somebody please help me figure it out?13:14
sorensandywalsh, jaypipes: So, did we just agree that *I* would add those checks before my MP would get approved? Or what happened?13:14
jaypipessoren: yep ;)13:15
sorensandywalsh, jaypipes: It's ok, I guess, I just realised I was basically twiddling thumbs waiting for someone to do something until I realised I might be the one who needed to do it :)13:15
* soren hacks.13:15
avishayIs this the right place to ask for installation help, or is this a developer forum?13:15
soren..but come to thing of it..13:16
sorensandywalsh: ..it sort of sounded like you were hacking on this?13:16
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sandywalshsoren, heh, nope. I could have just written in the merge prop comments as "needs fixing". But I appreciate you thinking of me :)13:17
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sorenEr..13:20
* soren finally realises that it's kind of superfluous.13:20
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soren..but meh.13:20
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ttxjaypipes: did something recently change in Glance's timestamps ? See bug 742179 and bug 742204 in Nova13:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 742179 in nova "DescribeImages api failing (using glance: filesytem)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74217913:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 742204 in nova "openstack-api-image-create failing due to datetime parsing" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74220413:35
n1md4I'm now trying to configure VlanManaged.  I've only created 1 instance, but that instance has 'networking' where there should be an IP address.  Is there anything specific that needs configuring for VlanManaged?13:37
jaypipesttx: no, not that I know of. sirp?13:37
ttxone is complaining about an empty string, the other about what looks like microseconds.13:38
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dlaffertyjaypipes: Hi Jay,13:39
dlaffertyjaypipes:  Ewan outlined how to use the functional tests this morning, but I got side tracked by a dental appointment.13:40
jaypipesdlafferty: get those teeths cleaned! :)13:41
* jaypipes just had a dentist appt last Wednesday...13:41
jaypipesdlafferty: yeah, so you can just insert that test into the tests/functional/test_curl_api.py file and do ./run_tests.sh -N13:41
jaypipesdlafferty: errors will pop up if the bug is a problem on your platform.13:42
dlaffertyjaypipes:  We have two environments:  one for development and one for execution.  My understanding is that I needed to run the tests in the execution environment.  I.e. nova's compute service would not run from tree.13:42
dlaffertyjaypipes:  I will follow you advice and use run_tests.sh.  I am assuming that it also kicks off the necessary servers.13:43
jaypipesdlafferty: ok. no worries. the functional tests spawn glance api/registry on unused ports, so you shouldn't need to worry about any conflicts with running instances of glance.13:43
jaypipesdlafferty: also, the servers used in functional tests use temp config files, temp data stores and temp directories for storing images, so they are entirely isolated...13:44
dlaffertyjaypipes:  BTW, have you seen any issues with uploading large images to Swift via Glance?  E.g. we consistently see a probelm with images of 24 gig at the *upload* stage.13:44
dlaffertyjaypipes:  (the prob with 2 gig problem is with *downloads*)13:45
jaypipesdlafferty: nope, haven't. but not sure we've tested anything >5G. We can work with you to set up a test environment on Hudson to try reproducing the issue?13:45
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jaypipesdlafferty: do the problems you see only occur when doing operations on Glance? Or are you using Nova's XS plugin and interacting with Glnace?13:45
dlaffertyjaypipes:  I am getting the reports from a principle (sp?) researcher, so I will have to duplicate myself.  Not sure what the XS plugin is.13:47
n1md4with vlanmanager should I have interfaces set to use br100 or ethX13:49
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dlaffertyjaypipes:  WRT XS plugin, we're using glance-upload to do the uploads.14:00
jaypipesdlafferty: XS plugin is the plugin Citrix and Rackspace wrote that uses Xen as the virt manager in Nova.14:00
jaypipesdlafferty: ok. I'll check with sirp when he gets in about testing large images on a box somewhere...14:01
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n1md4could someone pastebin their nova.conf on both cc and node please?14:22
n1md4and maybe network/interfaces too?14:22
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zigo-_-Does launchpad refuses 1024 bits ssh keys?14:31
zigo-_-:/14:31
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devdvdhi everyone14:33
jaypipeszigo-_-: no.14:34
zigo-_-Seems it absolutely wanted a username after the key.14:34
zigo-_-:)14:34
jaypipesah14:35
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n1md4"could someone pastebin their nova.conf on both cc and node please?  and maybe network/interfaces too?"  would that be possible?14:42
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dovetaildanAny reason why the trunk PPA is still serving packages from revision 877?15:05
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dprinceJust noticed the PPA packages for trunk are still at revision 877.15:06
dprinceAnybody have an idea why?15:06
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dragondme15:07
* ttx looks15:10
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ttxdovetaildan, dprince: build failure on the PPA apparently15:12
ttxsoren: ^15:12
dprincedprince == dovetaildan15:12
ttxnifty15:13
dprinceSOrry. I was logged into the wrong screen session.15:13
AdamSWould anyone answer if it possible and/or provide me a link to a document with further info on information related to creating a private cloud with vm/storage level replication to a cloud provider for DR purposes?15:13
ttxbuild failure due to test failure15:13
dprinceLet me guess. Fox in sox?15:13
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ttxActionExtensionTest, ExtensionManagerTest15:14
ttxhttp://launchpadlibrarian.net/67427347/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-i386.nova_2011.2~bzr894-0ubuntu0ppa1~lucid1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz15:14
ttxKeyError: u'FOXNSOX'15:14
ttxindeed15:14
dprinceSure. Soren got that.15:14
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dprinceYeah. I see https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/include-test-extensions/+merge/55146 is marked as needs fixing. Once that is in PPA should build again.15:16
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AdamSIs this a developer focused forum? If so, where can I get more information about Openstack if it is not found in the documentation?15:39
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j05h1AdamS: this is an openstack related forum :D  depends on what you need to know. I always like looking at tests and code when i can't figure something out through docs.15:53
j05h1and questions have been known to be answered here as well.15:53
AdamSWould anyone answer if it possible and/or provide me a link to a document with further info on information related to creating a private cloud with vm/storage level replication to a cloud provider for DR purposes?15:53
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annegentleAdamS: hi Adam, I'm the doc coordinator for OpenStack and no such doc exists currently. It sounds like a perfect case for contacting Rackspace Cloudbuilders, though. http://www.rackspace.com/cloudbuilders/getstarted/16:10
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* annegentle ducks in case anyone throws rotten tomatoes for me pushin' da CloudBuilders :)16:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #744384 in nova "OSAPI: glance image errors: 'ValueError: unconverted data remains: .736549'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74438416:11
AdamSI contacted them and they said that they currently do not have a way for a private cloud to replicate to a public cloud, but that it was on the road map. So, I guess I need to know if I can build two private clouds that have this functionality, or if there is another company besides RackSpace that does offer this.16:11
creihtlol16:11
creihtannegentle: You need to add a referrer id to that link :)16:12
annegentlecreiht: snort16:12
annegentleAdamS: yeah that's the answer then, and I don't know of anyone else providing that service, sorry.16:13
vishyi would really like it if we changed are diagram that has "CloudController" to something that actually exists16:13
AdamSThanks for helping to answer a question that (as creiht so nicely pointed out) gets asked a lot.16:14
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annegentleAdamS: no problem, and I'm glad you asked here it gives other providers a chance to respond too :)16:16
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notmynameAdamS: one thing we are working with in swift is being able to keep a container in sync between 2 clusters. once implemented, it should be able to be the start of a DR solution for multiple storage clusters. there will, of course, be other (non-technical) issue to solve between multiple providers, but the software will do what it can to help16:18
AdamSI'm struggling with whether to implement this technology in hopes that it will solve my problem in the near future. Is there an ETA for this type of functionality?16:19
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notmynamecontainer sync (which, again, is only part of the solution for your problem) will be in swift in the diablo release. however, it will be in trunk much sooner than that, I'm sure16:27
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AdamSlast question and I'll let you all get back to your regularily schedule program.... Any consulting firms that are taking on these kinds of projects that you can think of?16:34
creihtother than RS, cloud scaling comes to mind16:36
creihtand probably some of the companies on here: http://openstack.org/community/companies/16:36
kpepple_vishy: i have a diagram which calls it "nova-api" like it is ... i think people really want a app server in our architecture16:36
vishyhehe16:37
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kbringardanyone have any luck boostrapping new machine images from a running image using euca-bundle-vol?16:52
kbringardI have an all in one (kernel and ramdisk included) image running, but my root drive isn't bootable when I bundle it up16:52
kbringardwas wondering if there was a known trick to it before I spent a bunch of time sorting it out :-)16:53
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vishyanyone have the link handy to ttx's prioritized review list?17:07
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vishysearching for 'review' in my inbox has about 24,000 results17:08
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vishyfound it! http://wiki.openstack.org/reviewslist/17:09
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jaypipessirp: heya, could you give https://code.launchpad.net/~dan-prince/glance/property_delete/+merge/54583 a once over and approve if looks good? Thanks!17:15
sirpjaypipes: sure thing17:15
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jaypipessirp: appreciated.17:15
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johnpurnotmyname: container sync is an external agent? if not, how are you handling credentials and security for containers across providers?17:20
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vishysoren: ping17:27
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termieblamar: did you read the HACKING doc?17:35
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blamartermie: Yes sir... I just couldn't distinguish between examples and requirements17:35
termieblamar: can you point me at which review you are talking about? i did a lot on friday17:36
termiewow, that was horribly constructed17:36
termiecoffee machine turn on17:36
blamartermie, https://code.launchpad.net/~blamar/nova/openstack-api-1-1-images/+merge/5394217:37
blamartermie, but vish may have already answered my questions17:37
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termieblamar: yeah looks like he did more or less, i'll see whether i can make the hacking doc more explanatory17:38
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blamartermie: Yeah, I was trying to think of how, but it might just be that I like all my docstrings act as a bit of a spacer so a lot of times they end up having a leading/following newline even for short ones17:39
sonalipI'm having trouble using boto to connect to ec2 for non-admin openstack nova users. Anyone know why that is?17:39
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sonalipI'm having trouble using boto to connect to ec2 for non-admin openstack nova users. Anyone know why that is?17:41
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sonalipexport EC2_ACCESS_KEY=64999887-7554-4982-8da3-c2041483398a17:45
sonalip I'm having trouble using boto to connect to ec2 for non-admin openstack nova users. Anyone know why that is?17:45
kpepple_sonalip: do you have a paste of the nova-api logs ? or at least the error you are getting ?17:45
sonalipyeah..give me a min to pull it up17:45
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kpepple_sonalip: post the relevant bits at paste.openstack.org17:46
sonalipk..will do17:49
zykes-ttx: is there any news on commercial support for OS ?17:50
notmynamejohnpur: not sure how the auth is working with container sync. I'll find out17:52
sonalipkpepple_: i just did17:52
kpepple_sonalip: and the url is ...17:52
sonalipPaste #1017: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1017/17:52
termieblamar: https://code.launchpad.net/~termie/nova/more_docstring/+merge/55198 review pls17:52
termieblamar: when launchpad gets around to diffing17:53
blamartermie, skipping that and looking at rev ;)17:53
kpepple_sonalip: we need a little bit more of the log ... probably another 10 or 20 lines above the traceback statement ...17:54
sonalipk17:54
blamartermie, Yeah, thanks for that "If you are going to describe parameters" line, makes it more clear for me. One question: pep-257 allows for a leading newline on multi-line docstrings, do we?17:54
kpepple_sonalip: but looking at what you pasted, it appears that you have an authorization problem. are you sure you have the correct keys matching that project ?17:54
termieno17:54
blamartermie, uh, why? sphinx thing?17:55
termieblamar: because it does not match the style17:55
kpepple_sonalip: is this the openstack-dashboard connection ?17:55
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sonalipyes, i have the right keys17:56
sonalipit works for admin users17:56
sonalipi tried multiple nonadmin users to make sure the problem wasnt specific to a particular nova user17:56
kbringardhey guys, quick question about machine types and disk space17:57
kbringardI'm just using the default machine types, which has an m1.small as having 20GB of disk17:57
kpepple_sonalip: and you've followed http://wiki.openstack.org/RunningNova for creating projects / users ...17:58
kbringardwhen I launch a 10GB image, I notice that the 10GB is all the local disk I get, and it's on /dev/vda, and then I have a /dev/vdb, which is unpartitioned and is 20GB in size17:58
kbringardis that the intended behavior, or am I doing something wrong?17:59
sonalipyes i did18:00
kpepple_sonalip: ok, need to see the additional log lines to figure it out then ... it should have the details of the keys and configs that you are using18:01
sonalipwhich log files will have this info?18:01
sonalipi checked, but it doesnt create nova-api logs18:01
kbringardI thought I recalled that aws and eucalyptus would allocate the instance out of the total machine's disk, and the remainder would be available to mount as /mnt, or whatever18:02
kbringardwhich isn't to say this should work the same, I'm just making sure I understand :-)18:02
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kpepple_sonalip: make sure you have --verbose in your /etc/nova/nova.conf file for verbose logging18:02
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sonalipokay...should i restart the api and/or other services?18:03
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kpepple_sonalip: if you didn't have --verbose in the conf file, yes you will need to restart nova-api18:04
sonalipthe conf file has verbose18:04
jaypipesblamar: heh, seems you and I agree on docstrings :)18:05
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kpepple_sonalip: then you should have a nova-api.log in /var/log/nova/nova-api.log unless you changed the --logdir option18:05
sonalipso the conf file doesnt have a logdir option18:06
kpepple_sonalip: then it should be in /var/log/nova/ if you are on Ubuntu18:08
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sonalipvery strange! there is no nova dir under/var/log18:08
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kbringardI've had limited luck with the --logdir option in the nova.conf, so I mkdir it manually and specify --logfile= when I start the services18:09
kbringardFYI18:09
kbringardbut I'm also not running trunk, so perhaps it's been refined/fixed18:09
kpepple_sonalip: if you have --use_syslog in the conf file, it will be pushed to syslog (probably /var/log/syslog)18:11
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jaypipestermie, vishy: k, libvirt_snapshot off to tarmac pit.18:11
vishyjaypipes: nice18:12
blamarjaypipes: I don't understand why we're not following pep257?18:12
jaypipesblamar: me neither.18:12
sonalipnope, it doesnt have that tag either18:12
sonaliplet me add the options and restart the services18:12
blamarjaypipes, wow, I read that as we disagree on docstrings haha18:12
blamarjaypipes, my comment hold though18:12
blamars/hold/holds18:13
jaypipesblamar: my comment was the exact same as yours :)18:13
jaypipesblamar: mine went in first, though, so ha ha. :P18:13
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kbringardvishy: did you see my quesiton about disk space and machine types? any insight?18:15
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vishykbringard: missed it18:16
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uvirtbotNew bug: #744457 in nova "Documentation of nova/image/service.py is incorrect" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74445718:17
kbringardah, well, the quick of it is, when I launch an instance, I'm getting /dev/vda as the disk that was created with the instance, and /dev/vdb is the disk that is allocated with the instance type18:17
vishybringard: yes, correct18:17
kbringardI thought I recalled that aws and eucalyptus would allocate the instance out of the total machine's disk, and the remainder would be available to mount as /mnt, or whatever, but here they seem, to be decoupled18:17
vishykbringard: aws does it two different ways18:18
devdvdhaving a bit of an issue, running euca-describe-images outputs this:18:18
devdvdWarning: failed to parse error message from AWS: <unknown>:1:0: syntax error18:18
devdvdEC2ResponseError: 403 Forbidden18:18
vishykbringard: but in general I think partitioning a users image is a bad idea18:18
vishykbringard: so a second drive is preferrable18:19
kbringardOK, cool18:19
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kbringardI'm not partitioning it18:19
vishykbringard: specifically it changed when we switched to CoW images18:19
kbringardthat makes sense18:19
kbringardso do you recommend I make the size of the base OS image as close to the size of the install as possible18:20
vishykbringard: it attempts to resize the base os image to 10G18:20
vishykbringard: but I noticed recently that this may not be working anymore18:21
kbringardOK, so making it 10GB is a wise idea, and then if they need more disk space for whatever else, they can just partition out /dev/vdb18:21
vishykbringard: for whole disk images (without a second kernel and ramdisk) I would just keep them as small as seems valuable18:21
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vishykbringard: That seems like the best plan, you can also use qcow images (with kvm) instead of raw to allow them to download faster18:22
kbringardyea, qcow2 is what I'm using18:22
vishycool, so they are sparse anyway, so you don't waste extra bandwidth with a 10G image18:23
kbringardmostly I wanted to understand better what it was doing and how y'all recommend I train my users :-)18:23
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kbringardthanks vishy, as always your insight is appreciated and exceptionally useful :-)18:24
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sorenvishy: Yes, sir?18:29
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termiejustinsb: are you still coming by this way?18:30
vishysoren: I was just going to ping you on this one since it seems kind of important18:31
vishyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/include-test-extensions/+merge/5514618:31
vishybut looks like you already responded18:31
sorenvishy: Just did, yeah.18:32
uvirtbotNew bug: #744460 in nova "S3 Image Service needs cleanup and better glance integration." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74446018:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #744462 in nova "get_user has different behavior for db and ldap drivers" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74446218:33
justinsbtermie: I am, just got sidetracked18:33
vishyjustinsb: you can't code and drive at the same time? Amateur!18:34
justinsbtermie: Probably be there in a bit less than an hour if you guys are thinking about lunch.  Go ahead if you're hungry!18:34
justinsbvishy: Not in Python :-)18:34
termiejustinsb: vish is hungry but we all ignote him18:34
termieignore18:34
termie... though ignote seems like a cool word18:34
termieit's like when i star an email message and then never go back to it18:34
termiebut making sure i remember i can effectively completely forget18:35
justinsbtermie: Good word.  I will start ignoting more emails.18:36
sorensandywalsh: Happy with  https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/include-test-extensions/+merge/55146 now?18:40
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blamarjaypipes, responded to https://code.launchpad.net/~rackspace-titan/nova/lp742204/+merge/55200, but read it in a happy-go-lucky questioning voice if you could :)18:52
zulsoren: i added the extra lxc tests that you wanted: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/nova/nova-lxc/+merge/5520818:53
sorenzul: cool beans!18:55
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jaypipesblamar: needs fixing was the (locals()) thing, nothing more...18:57
jaypipesblamar: the other was just a question, since I didn't remember Glance changing the way it returned datetimes any time recently...18:57
blamarjaypipes: OK, so does that violate some spec somewhere?18:57
blamarjaypipes, yeah, I think markwash is going to comment on that momentarily :)18:58
jaypipesblamar: no, it's just the same comment I would make if you did something like: if (this < that):18:58
jaypipesblamar: parens aren't needed.18:58
jaypipesblamar: it was a femto-nit, nothing more :)18:59
jaypipesmarkwash: looking at that Ed bug comment now....18:59
blamarjaypipes, Well I agree for the if statement, hmm. I've always just gone with a tuple for print statements to save myself potential keystrokes down the line19:00
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jaypipesblamar: well, the thing about (locals()) specifically is that (locals(), ) would bomb the code, because the string uses %(variable)s replacement and therefore expects a dict, not a tuple....19:00
jaypipesblamar: make sense?19:01
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jaypipessirp: so, re: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/741429, I'm still not sure. Did we change the format of the datetime strings returned in the Glance API recently?19:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 741429 in nova "Problem with mapping of timestamps with glance" [Undecided,Fix committed]19:02
blamarjaypipes, perfectly, thanks!19:02
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jaypipessandywalsh: hehe, I think soren is at the end of his rope with https://code.launchpad.net/~soren/nova/include-test-extensions/+merge/55146 :)19:03
sirpjaypipes: i don't think we changed *glance* (AFAIK), but the handling within Nova has changed quite recently19:03
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jaypipessirp: ah, ok. perhaps there weren't tests for it until recently...?19:04
sirpjaypipes: that's true, but more to the point, it really wan't being inspected/munged until recently... within the last week we've been converting from Glance format for timestamps to OpenStack API format for timestamps... there were tests that went in with this code, but it's possible (likely) that some edge cases aren't handled19:06
jaypipessirp: k, gotcha. so, I'm understanding that Glance does *not* need to change anything at this time?19:07
sirpjaypipes: right, i think glance is good to go19:07
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uvirtbotNew bug: #744496 in nova "ec2 api with local image store doesn't return proper name and description" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74449619:12
markwashsirp: you changed the time format to not include milliseconds, right?19:14
markwashsirp: on the parsing side in nova/images/glance.py19:14
sirpmarkwash: i don't recall making that change; AFAIK, glance only returned with a resolution of seconds, and OpenStack API was supposed to do the same; the only difference i was aware of was the additional 'Z'19:15
markwashjaypipes: glance formats datetimes as datetime::isoformat(), which includes milliseconds19:16
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markwashsirp:     # FIXME(sirp): Glance is not returning in ISO format, we should fix Glance19:18
markwash    # to do so, and then switch to parsing it here19:18
sirpmarkwash: yup i remember adding that note19:19
markwashcool, thanks, just trying to get things straight in my head19:20
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aixenvguys - im seeing "Warning: failed to parse error message from AWS: <unknown>:1:0: syntax error" , i did some googling and supposedly this was fixed a long time ago, I'm not sure why this is happening I did source my novarc file, any ideas?19:26
aixenvas a proof of concept im trying to do nova(cloud controller/etc) on 1 server19:27
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aixenvi tried re-running the 'nova-CC-install-v1.1.sh' , it didnt fix the issue19:30
aixenvalso for some reason that script "hangs" on "Setting up Nova configuration files" , i have to ^C for it to get past that part19:30
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markwashdprince: you had problems recently when glance was returning microseconds and the code wasn't parsing it, right?19:32
markwashdprince: the code == nova glance image service19:32
dprincemarkwash: yes19:32
dprincemarkwash: See this bug:19:33
dprincehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/74438419:33
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 744384 in nova "OSAPI: glance image errors: 'ValueError: unconverted data remains: .736549'" [Undecided,In progress]19:33
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dprincemarkwash: When using the most recent trunks of nova with glance you are unable to create images due to this issue.19:33
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zulvishy: ping is it possible to do something in the flags.DEFINE if another flag is set?19:34
openstackjenkinsProject nova build #733: SUCCESS in 2 min 22 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/733/19:38
openstackjenkinsTarmac: This fixes EC2 API so that it returns image displayName and description properly.19:38
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aixenvany ideas why im seeing this issue?19:39
aixenvi followed 'http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/DevPkgInstall'19:40
aixenvand then got the 'wget --no-check-certificate https://github.com/dubsquared/OpenStack-NOVA-Installer-Script/raw/master/nova-CC-install-v1.1.sh' and ran that19:40
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aixenvah i figured the hanging out19:50
aixenvand figured out the error19:50
uvirtbotNew bug: #744519 in nova "euca-degister - deletes wrong image (for GlanceImageService)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74451919:51
vishyzul: I don't think so, probably good enough to throw an error if they are both set in init_host or something19:57
vishyzul: perhaps with a todo in the implementation saying that lxc currently doesn't support nbd.19:58
zulvishy: right19:58
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zigo-_-Can someone tell me if the ajaxterm in Nova is the same as upstream, or if it is a fork?20:05
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sorenzigo-_-: Sort of.20:14
sorenzigo-_-: Well, it's closer to upstream than what's in Debian.20:14
sorenzigo-_-: I've redone our patches and made them applicable to Debian's ajaxterm.20:14
sorenThey're awaiting feature freeze approval in Ubuntu.20:14
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sorenzigo-_-: Let me find the bug number...20:15
zigo-_-My question is rather: Can we use the Debian package instead, to avoid to have it twice, which goes against the policy?20:15
sorenzigo-_-: No.20:15
sorenzigo-_-: We can't.20:15
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sorenAh, no, it's approved.20:15
sorenI'll upload it tomorrow.20:15
sorenzigo-_-: bug 74161920:15
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 741619 in ajaxterm "[FFe] Add a token based check and a global idle timeout to ajaxterm" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74161920:16
sandywalshsoren, want me to take the extensions branch?20:16
sorensandywalsh: I would like you to approve what I have, yes.20:16
sorenzigo-_-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/740475 <-- This is the goal I'm working towards.20:17
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 740475 in nova "ajaxterm support missing from 2011.1.1 ubuntu packages" [Medium,In progress]20:17
zigo-_-Thanks.20:17
* zigo-_- reads20:17
sandywalshsoren, done20:19
sorensandywalsh: Ta very much.20:19
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openstackjenkinsProject nova build #734: SUCCESS in 2 min 23 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/734/20:33
openstackjenkinsTarmac: Toss an __init__ in the test extensions dir. This gets it included in the tarball.20:33
openstackjenkinsMake extensions code ignore modules whose name starts with '_'.20:33
openstackjenkinsWarn if an extension doesn't define a class or factory by the right name.20:33
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zacconehello20:45
zigo-_-Sorry if this sounds a dub question, but what is the difference between nova-objectstore and nova-volume?20:45
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zigo-_-(I'm discovering the project slowly...)20:45
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kpepple_zigo-_-: objectstore is for images, volume provides EBS like storage for your instances20:47
zigo-_-Ok, so volume would provide the partitions of my VMs?20:47
zigo-_-But like, wouldn't be persistant?20:47
kpepple_zigo-_-: yes, it could be a partition on your VM. and yes, it would be persistent (it's often backed by iSCSI volumes)20:49
zigo-_-Cheers.20:49
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Blah2is anyone else getting tests failure?20:57
Blah2tests were passing fine since Fri, today did a pull and a ton of tests failing for me20:57
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bcwaldonBlah2: what error are you getting? maybe rebuild your venv20:58
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Blah2aah maybe that is it.20:59
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uvirtbotNew bug: #744567 in nova "OSAPI v1.1 should not support password update on PUT /servers/<id>" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74456721:17
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openstackjenkinsProject nova build #735: SUCCESS in 2 min 23 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/735/21:28
openstackjenkinsTarmac: Moving shared_ip_groups controller to APIRouterV1021:28
openstackjenkinsReplacing all shared_ip_groups contoller code with HTTPNotImplemented21:28
openstackjenkinsAdding shared_ip_groups testing21:28
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devdvdwhen trying to start an instance euca-describe-instances tells me "failed to spawn mykey (project1,openstack01)21:45
devdvdwhat am i doing wrong?21:45
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sorendevdvd: One thing that is not very obvious is that that string is three different columns of output.21:53
sorendevdvd: There's "failed to spawn" which is the instance state.21:53
sorendevdvd: There's "mykey" which is the key, you passed to RunInstances.21:53
sorendevdvd: And "project1,openstack01" is...21:53
sorendevdvd: er...21:53
sorendevdvd: The owner of the instance or something like that.21:53
devdvdwell project1 is the name of the project and openstack01 is the name of the server21:54
sorendevdvd: When instances are in "failed to spawn" state, there's usually something useful in nova-compute.log.21:54
devdvdok21:54
devdvdthank you21:54
sorenSure thing.21:54
* soren heads bedwards, so can't help much more this evening.21:54
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vishysoren: Volume is not the right size:  bash: blockdev: command not found22:00
vishysoren: you broke my volume test :(22:01
sorenvishy: I love you too.22:02
vishy:)22:02
sorenHow the heck do you not have blockdev?22:02
sorenWhat sort of operating system are you testing against?22:02
sorenit22:02
sorenIt's in util-linux!22:03
vishyami-tty22:03
vishybusybox22:03
sorenAlong with other esoteric things like getty, fsck, dmesg, and mkfs.22:03
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vishywow sqlite is useless22:05
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vishylocked db errors :(22:05
sorenIt works pretty well for me.22:06
sorenIt usually recovers from locked db errors.22:06
vishysoren: my smoketests just failed because of locked db22:06
sorenvishy: With current trunk?22:06
vishyyup22:07
sorenOdd. I've run them with as much concurrency as the box would take without any problems.22:07
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sorenProbably.. 12 or so concurrent instances.22:07
vishyare you allocating addresses and such?22:08
sorenYeah.22:08
vishystrange, i just did a trunk checkout and smoketest with sqlite and it sploded22:08
vishyruns fine with mysql22:08
sorenMy usual test run only does... 4 at a time, I think.22:08
sorenDue to limited numbre of external IP's.22:08
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vishysoren: (aside from the broken volume test that is)22:09
sorenvishy: Fascinating. I'd love to debug that.22:09
sorenI'll see if I can reproduce it tomorrow. Now that we have package builds again, I can get back to testing stuff.22:10
vishyboth errors were locked db22:10
vishysoren: cool, any idea on what i can use besides blockdev on tty?22:10
sorenI thought sqlalchemy would recover nicely from that.22:10
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vishysoren: it raises an error22:10
vishyi suppose if we caught and retried it might work22:10
sorenvishy: Can you give me "busybox --help" from that image?22:10
sorenvishy: In an e-mail or pastebin or something and I can think about it.22:11
sorenRight now, /me -> bed22:11
vishyk22:11
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sorenvishy: My busybox actually has blockdev, so I need to know how yours was compiled.22:12
vishysoren: I'm using ttylinux22:12
vishyfrom the uec stuff22:12
vishysoren: here http://paste.openstack.org/show/1020/22:13
vishysoren: sleep well!  See you tomorrow22:14
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joloughlinhaving some problems with nova + glance22:22
joloughlini can add an image to glance via glance add22:22
joloughlinbut a euca-describe-images throw an error22:23
joloughlinnova-manage image or uec-publish-image fail to register image properly22:23
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joloughlinso how can i add an image and then use euca-describe-images to see it ?22:24
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joloughlindoes anybody have glance working with nova correctly ?22:26
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joloughlinwhat is the recommend way to register an image with glance ?22:27
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n1md4any one had trouble running "/usr/bin/nova-manage user admin admin" says "The above error may show that the database has not been created." but it has been?22:31
n1md4Ah!  error in my nova.conf22:33
sorenvishy: Does /sys/class/block/<blockdev>/size exist in that context?22:33
vishysoren: yup22:34
sorenvishy: If so, we can use that if blockdev isn't around.22:34
vishy# cat /sys/class/block/vda/size22:34
vishy4915222:34
sorenvishy: Awesomesauce.22:34
vishynice, changing the test22:34
sorenSo $(cat /sys/class/block/vda/size)*512 should give the same as blockdev --getsize64.22:35
sorenvishy: Nothing in that busybox looked useful at all.22:35
* soren really goes to sleep22:35
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vishysoren: goodnight for real, perhaps we need a new uec ttylinux image22:36
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n1md4Another question, after using 'nova-manage network create <project-network> <number-of-networks-in-project> <IPs in project>' should those values then appear in the networks table?22:42
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uvirtbotNew bug: #744628 in nova "Volume size smoketest broken with busybox image" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74462822:52
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n1md4Anyone know why?  http://paste.openstack.org/show/1021/23:04
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uvirtbotNew bug: #744637 in nova "nova-manage fails silently if --logfile is set." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74463723:11
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vishyn1md4: did you nova-manage role add ?23:38
n1md4vishy: I've got it working now, thanks.  Yes, I did.  Lauchpad/nova is my friend :)23:39
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n1md4vishy: I've actually just got my first pingable instance, it's a good moment for :D23:39
vishy(beer)23:39
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* n1md4 cheers :)23:41
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n1md4vishy: If you're around, could you tell me which of these I DON'T need on a compute node please. http://paste.openstack.org/show/1022/23:47
n1md4I may have been a little zealous on my node install :-/23:48
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