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| shermanboyd | hmm I don't understand the network diagram in the nova admin book (section 3.2.1) | 03:04 |
| shermanboyd | why would you place the compute services node and db over the internet | 03:04 |
| shermanboyd | instead of locally with the compute nodes | 03:05 |
| shermanboyd | ? | 03:05 |
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| HugoKuo_ | hi vishy | 03:35 |
| HugoKuo_ | I solve my problem :> | 03:35 |
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| HugoKuo_ | thanks for you advice | 03:35 |
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| dsockwell | shermanboyd: I'm no expert, but I imagine it's because you can. there shouldn't be any reason not to put them on a LAN though. | 03:50 |
| shermanboyd | dsockwell: thanks ... | 03:55 |
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| winston-d | BK_man : around? | 05:16 |
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| winston-d | HugoKuo_ : how did you solve ur problem? | 05:28 |
| HugoKuo_ | winston-d : add iptable rule manually and open promics on br100 | 05:34 |
| winston-d | r u using VlanManager or Flat? | 05:34 |
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| HugoKuo_ | FlatDHCP | 05:35 |
| winston-d | i see. I'm using Vlan. | 05:36 |
| HugoKuo_ | I finally success to separate nova-network | 05:36 |
| HugoKuo_ | what's your prograss now ? | 05:36 |
| winston-d | i'm struggle with Vlan. :/ I noticed that <filterref> part of <interface> caused unreachable network. | 05:41 |
| winston-d | i'd like to confirm that it's the case for others. | 05:42 |
| winston-d | I think I understand why network is not working... hmmm | 05:48 |
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| HugoKuo_ | so the instace can be run up ? | 05:57 |
| HugoKuo_ | but can not be access through SSH or ping ? | 05:57 |
| HugoKuo_ | right ? | 05:57 |
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| winston-d | HugoKuo_ : right | 06:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #760422 in nova "exception.NotFound occurred when installing nova-objectstore in a different marchine from nova-compute" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760422 | 06:31 |
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| ttx | vishy: if you're still up, let me know if you're ok to freeze | 06:44 |
| soren | ttx: We still need the Final =TRue patch. | 06:51 |
| soren | ttx: I'll whip one up. | 06:51 |
| soren | ttx: Or do you want to? | 06:51 |
| ttx | I have branches ready | 06:51 |
| ttx | soren: but apparently there is still one branch up the pipe | 06:52 |
| BK_man | winston-d: yep, here | 06:52 |
| ttx | though LP codereview seems to be busted | 06:52 |
| ttx | soren: I'm trying to piece the puzzle together | 06:52 |
| soren | ttx: Which branch is in the piipe? | 06:52 |
| winston-d | BK_man : i was about to ask you some question related to Vlan manager. | 06:52 |
| winston-d | BK_man : but I think i've got it figured out. | 06:53 |
| ttx | soren: vishy/jaypipes mention a new RC bug in the backlog, bug 760289 | 06:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 760289 in nova "All image types return as 'machine' when using glance client in ec2 api" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760289 | 06:53 |
| BK_man | Yeeha! I'm not only one facing that issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/760422 | 06:53 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 760422 in nova "exception.NotFound occurred when installing nova-objectstore in a different marchine from nova-compute" [Undecided,New] | 06:53 |
| ttx | soren: though they didn't set the milestone clearly | 06:53 |
| BK_man | winston-d: np, ask each time. I will answer when I can | 06:53 |
| BK_man | ttx: is that a regression? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/760422 | 06:54 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 760422 in nova "exception.NotFound occurred when installing nova-objectstore in a different marchine from nova-compute" [Undecided,New] | 06:54 |
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| ttx | BK_man: I doubt it is | 06:55 |
| ttx | soren: | 06:55 |
| ttx | <vishy> 22:46:32> jaypipes...i'd say it is critical | 06:55 |
| ttx | <jaypipes> 22:46:39> vishy: I would agree. | 06:55 |
| * ttx grumbles. Targeting bugs to RC a few hours to RCFreeze is ok if you can get the patch in in time | 06:58 | |
| * ttx kicks code.launchpad.net in the balls | 06:59 | |
| ttx | "builds, merge proposals and mailing lists having trouble (fallout from hardware failure) - back soon" | 06:59 |
| ttx | soren: looks like we'll have a wait a few hours to cut the RC. | 07:00 |
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| zigo-_- | alekibango: Hi ! | 07:03 |
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| winston-d | BK_man : did u get glance work as image service? I've got some issues. | 07:07 |
| BK_man | nope | 07:07 |
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| winston-d | OK. did you try it and failed or you just sticked to objectstore for now? | 07:09 |
| BK_man | I have two traces - one from Glance and another one from Local storage | 07:11 |
| BK_man | winston-d: glance: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1182/ | 07:11 |
| zigo-_- | After a fresh pull, I got the following error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1188/ | 07:11 |
| zigo-_- | What could that be??? | 07:11 |
| BK_man | winston-d: sorry, last link was from local storage | 07:11 |
| BK_man | winston-d: glance: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1181/ | 07:11 |
| zigo-_- | "OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory" | 07:12 |
| zigo-_- | Which thing is it trying to access? | 07:12 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: is your question about my trace? | 07:12 |
| zigo-_- | No, about mine! :) | 07:13 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: show me yours | 07:13 |
| zigo-_- | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1188/ | 07:13 |
| zigo-_- | Fresh pull from minutes ago... | 07:14 |
| winston-d | BK_man : both traces are failed. for glance, that looks familiar to me. I always get 400 response from glance server. | 07:14 |
| zigo-_- | Just reinstalled my test server from scratch, to test missing dependencies... | 07:14 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: something strange happened. | 07:14 |
| zigo-_- | Also, something tried to write a lock file in /usr/lib/python2.6 ... | 07:15 |
| zigo-_- | I had to put some loose perms there. | 07:15 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: I put debug code in Nova and discovered that cp failed in my code with No such file or directory. However, there is a file and permissions & owner are correct | 07:15 |
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| zigo-_- | Oh, I think I got it. | 07:16 |
| zigo-_- | qemu-img is not there! | 07:17 |
| zigo-_- | Yet another missing dep... | 07:17 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: you're lucky man! Mine problem is more complicated :( | 07:17 |
| winston-d | BK_man : in your bexar RHEL packages, 'nova-manage log request' would fail due to the modification of nova log settings. | 07:20 |
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| BK_man | winston-d: never tested it! thanks for reporting | 07:20 |
| BK_man | winston-d: hold on switching to cactus. trunk is broken at the moment | 07:21 |
| winston-d | BK_man : will u do 'C' packaging? | 07:21 |
| winston-d | BK_man : yeah, i'd wait until you release RHEL RPMs. :) | 07:21 |
| BK_man | winston-d: yep, in fact we are doing trunk builds and trunk is almost cactus at the moment | 07:22 |
| BK_man | winston-d: the only small problem is that trunk code is not working now :) | 07:22 |
| winston-d | BK_man : looking forward to a working version from u. | 07:23 |
| zigo-_- | Well, now got another one... | 07:23 |
| zigo-_- | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1189/ | 07:24 |
| zigo-_- | Could it be that my libvirt doesn't have the needed patches? (it's from Debian Experimental, not from PPA...) | 07:25 |
| zigo-_- | BK_man: Are you doing the RPMs for Fedora? :) | 07:26 |
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| BK_man | zigo-_-: not now. But I can't see any stops compiling my RPMs on Fedora | 07:26 |
| zigo-_- | So in which distro? | 07:27 |
| zigo-_- | SUSE ? | 07:27 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: my RPMs targeted specifically RHEL 6.0 at the moment | 07:27 |
| zigo-_- | Ok, good to know. | 07:27 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/RHEL6Notes | 07:27 |
| zigo-_- | I'm doing the Debian packaging ... | 07:28 |
| zigo-_- | Got a bunch of patches against the Ubuntu debs already. | 07:28 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: please let me know if you obtain information about Nova-specific libvirt patches | 07:28 |
| zigo-_- | ok | 07:28 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: forgot to ask - are you going to Summit? | 07:28 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: my mail is abrindeyev@griddynamics.com in case if I absent on IRC | 07:29 |
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| zigo-_- | Unfortunately, I have no budget for that, my passport is not a biometric one, and I have other stuff planned. | 07:29 |
| zigo-_- | I hope to go to the next one. | 07:29 |
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| BK_man | zigo-_-: where are you from? | 07:29 |
| zigo-_- | I'm a French guy living in Shanghai, China. | 07:30 |
| HugoKuo_ | winston-d : my topology http://hugokuo-hugo.blogspot.com/2011/04/this-topology-works-fine-with-bzr-984.html | 07:30 |
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| BK_man | zigo-_-: Ah, ok. I already asked you that question. :( | 07:30 |
| zigo-_- | People in here are interested a lot with RPMs for Openstack. Especially people from China Standard Software Co. (the biggest Unix distro in China) | 07:30 |
| zigo-_- | BK_man: And yourself, were are you from? | 07:31 |
| zigo-_- | where | 07:31 |
| winston-d | zigo-_-: is benbenhappy from China Standard Software? | 07:31 |
| zigo-_- | Yes. | 07:32 |
| zigo-_- | He is my friend. | 07:32 |
| zigo-_- | I'll see him tonight. | 07:32 |
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| winston-d | zigo-_- : OK | 07:33 |
| BK_man | zigo-_-: I'm from Russia | 07:34 |
| winston-d | HugoKuo_ : why do you want to separate nova-network ? | 07:34 |
| HugoKuo_ | Does any know how to resolve " need to NFS mount /var/lib/nova/images folder from nova-bojectstore to nova-compute ? | 07:34 |
| HugoKuo_ | winston-d : bcz I want to try HA for nova-network | 07:35 |
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| HugoKuo_ | I believe that while nova-network dead..... | 07:35 |
| HugoKuo_ | we can not access into instance.... | 07:35 |
| HugoKuo_ | so that I separate nova-network from controller node :) | 07:36 |
| HugoKuo_ | is this make sense ? | 07:36 |
| winston-d | HugoKuo_ : i think if one instance is up and running (network connection is OK), nova-network has nothing to do with client-to-VM traffic anymore. | 07:36 |
| HugoKuo_ | how about nova-network dead .... | 07:37 |
| HugoKuo_ | host | 07:37 |
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| winston-d | if nova-network session/process/host is dead, the impact would be you won't be able to create new instance. that's my understanding. | 07:38 |
| HugoKuo_ | btw , you are right about that , but once that host dead..... | 07:38 |
| winston-d | unless you have VPN service in nova-network host | 07:39 |
| HugoKuo_ | all instance traffice go through from nova-network | 07:39 |
| zigo-_- | Where may I find image tarballs that are known to work??? | 07:39 |
| HugoKuo_ | right ? | 07:39 |
| HugoKuo_ | zigo-_- : wait | 07:39 |
| zigo-_- | It seems the one I used doesn't. | 07:39 |
| HugoKuo_ | zigo-_-: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/maverick/current/ | 07:40 |
| HugoKuo_ | I'm using 64 bits now | 07:40 |
| HugoKuo_ | did you mention that instance's gateway is on nova-network ..? | 07:41 |
| zigo-_- | Thanks, I will try that one. | 07:42 |
| HugoKuo_ | zigo-_-: UEC image instead of Amazon EC2 image | 07:42 |
| HugoKuo_ | maybe you should check the log file or console output ... | 07:42 |
| zigo-_- | It says 'i386' instead of x86_64 after the upload ... | 07:44 |
| HugoKuo_ | IMAGE ami-18b939f8 maverick/maverick-server-uec-amd64.img.manifest.xml available public x86_64 machine aki-1fac05cb | 07:45 |
| HugoKuo_ | mine is x86_64 ......... | 07:45 |
| HugoKuo_ | same image... | 07:45 |
| zigo-_- | :/ | 07:45 |
| HugoKuo_ | what's your nova version ? host OS version ? | 07:45 |
| zigo-_- | Debian Squeeze. | 07:47 |
| zigo-_- | Last pull from bzr... | 07:47 |
| winston-d | Hey guys, how long does it take in your setup for Nova to bring up a new instance? | 07:47 |
| HugoKuo_ | depends on the size of image | 07:48 |
| winston-d | BK_man, HugoKuo_ : you are using KVM, right? | 07:48 |
| HugoKuo_ | for exapmple tty image | 07:48 |
| HugoKuo_ | winston-d : yes | 07:48 |
| BK_man | winston-d: correct | 07:48 |
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| HugoKuo_ | first time to bring up a instance take more time | 07:49 |
| HugoKuo_ | bcz nova-compute must load image and untar | 07:49 |
| winston-d | BK_man, HugoKuo_: do you guys have any special treatment for HVM guest? Here it seem adding <kernel> <ramdisk> in libvirt.xml would cause instance failed to boot. | 07:50 |
| HugoKuo_ | no experience :\ | 07:50 |
| BK_man | winston-d: nope. no special customization was required for KVM from my side | 07:50 |
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| winston-d | BK_man : here's the console output of my newly created instance. very long trace, you can skip the beginning and look for the end. http://paste.openstack.org/show/1190/ | 07:54 |
| winston-d | BK_man : I double checked that I used the correct kernel/ramdisk. Don't know why it doesn't work. Removing <kernel><initrd> should help. Let me try. | 07:56 |
| BK_man | what version of RHEL in guest? | 07:56 |
| winston-d | The guest is RHEL 6 | 07:58 |
| winston-d | x64 | 07:58 |
| BK_man | Mine is 5.6, 6.0 guest preparation in plans. let me check what's if /etc/fstab in my guest | 07:59 |
| BK_man | winston-d: /dev/vda / ext3 defaults 1 1 | 08:00 |
| BK_man | winston-d: that's what I have in guest in /etc/fstab | 08:00 |
| winston-d | BK_man : i recalled CentOS 5.3 was OK while I tested 'A' release. | 08:00 |
| BK_man | winston-d: initrd-2.6.18-238.el5-virtio.img - initrd with virtio driver | 08:01 |
| winston-d | BK_man : my guest was installed onto a Qcow2 virtio backed image, so I assume the ramdisk already includes virtio driver? | 08:02 |
| BK_man | winston-d: indeed | 08:02 |
| * BK_man finished with management call. uff... | 08:04 | |
| winston-d | BK_man : haven't had lunch yet? | 08:04 |
| BK_man | winston-d: nope. workday just started. We have shifted worktime to better match colleagues in US, CA | 08:05 |
| winston-d | BK_man : meaning getting up early and staying up late... | 08:06 |
| BK_man | winston-d: yep | 08:06 |
| winston-d | BK_man : unfortunately, the fstab for my guest is LVM based... | 08:09 |
| winston-d | is that the root cause? | 08:09 |
| HugoKuo_ | hey man , I forgot the flag of nova-volume .... | 08:13 |
| HugoKuo_ | assume VG= ubuntu2 nova-volume host ip=192.168.1.2 | 08:14 |
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| ttx | soren: you should still be able to pull lp:~jaypipes/nova/bug760289 and judge its merits offline, so that it's ready to go in whenever LP recovers | 08:26 |
| ttx | I'll announce RCFreeze with a provision for merging that last one, just after coffee. | 08:26 |
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| BK_man | winston-d: root=/dev/vda console=ttyS0 selinux=0 | 08:37 |
| BK_man | winston-d: from libvirt.xml | 08:38 |
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| winston-d | BK_man : same here for that line | 08:38 |
| winston-d | BK_man : i think the root cause is not supporting LVM image with separate kernel & ramdisk. | 08:42 |
| BK_man | winston-d: yep. how did you prepare your image? | 08:42 |
| winston-d | install a VM locally and then bundle/register via euca2ools | 08:43 |
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| HugoKuo_ | https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/152770 connect refused during create volume prograss ...... any suggestion ? | 09:03 |
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| ttx | soren: looks like it's working -- please review https://code.launchpad.net/~jaypipes/nova/bug760289/+merge/57609 | 09:04 |
| ttx | and accept if you're alrigth with it, Vish reviewed it offline and acked it | 09:04 |
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| HugoKuo_ | forget about that question , I just forgot to enable iscsi | 09:07 |
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| ttx | soren: https://code.launchpad.net/~ttx/nova/cactus-final-version/+merge/57627 is next :) | 09:14 |
| soren | ttx: Yeah, I saw :) | 09:15 |
| BK_man | soren: ttx: really??? | 09:22 |
| soren | BK_man: Really what? | 09:23 |
| * BK_man thinks that RC buggy | 09:23 | |
| ttx | BK_man: I won't wait for 150 bugs to be fixed to release it. | 09:23 |
| BK_man | soren: ttx: localstorage is broken | 09:23 |
| BK_man | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1191/ | 09:23 |
| ttx | BK_man: did it use to work ? | 09:24 |
| BK_man | ttx, yep, couple days ago | 09:24 |
| openstackjenkins | Project nova build #817: SUCCESS in 2 min 29 sec: http://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova/817/ | 09:24 |
| openstackjenkins | Tarmac: Rework GlanceImageService._translate_base() to not call BaseImageService._translate_base() otherwise the wrong class attributes are used in properties construction... | 09:24 |
| BK_man | ttx: however, i can't run any instance on Glance also | 09:24 |
| ttx | BK_man: looks like a packaging problem to me | 09:25 |
| BK_man | ttx: commented today on Ubunty - exact problem | 09:25 |
| BK_man | ttx: let me search a link for you | 09:25 |
| BK_man | ttx: soren: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/760422 | 09:26 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 760422 in nova "exception.NotFound occurred when installing nova-objectstore in a different marchine from nova-compute" [Undecided,New] | 09:26 |
| ttx | BK_man: if you don't file a bug, it's a bit difficult for us to know about it. | 09:26 |
| ttx | ok | 09:26 |
| * ttx sighs | 09:26 | |
| BK_man | ttx: now hardy working to determine which rev introduced a regression | 09:26 |
| ttx | BK_man: you said it used to work... when was that ? | 09:27 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #760484 in nova "Suspend/Pause not supported for libvirt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760484 | 09:27 |
| soren | I think this is a known issue. | 09:27 |
| BK_man | txx: bug is still in bzr977, checking another rev | 09:27 |
| ttx | BK_man: I think it never was supported. | 09:27 |
| HugoKuo_ | my nova-objectstroe is not stay with compute node , is that the reason why I have to NFS mount /var/lib/nova/images to compute node ? | 09:27 |
| ttx | BK_man: ISTR Vish saying that you should use Glance if you use multiple machines | 09:28 |
| BK_man | ttx: I'm not using multiple hosts at the moment. | 09:28 |
| ttx | BK_man: but if you can point to a recent release that worked... than I'd agree it's a regression | 09:28 |
| soren | I wonder if setting it to an S3-like backend helps. | 09:28 |
| HugoKuo_ | ttx : thanks , I'll try glance | 09:28 |
| BK_man | ttx: but let me provide you another trace using Glance... | 09:28 |
| BK_man | ttx: soren: this is using Glance: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1192/ | 09:31 |
| BK_man | # ls -l /var/lib/nova/instances/_base/ | 09:32 |
| BK_man | total 4684 | 09:32 |
| BK_man | -rw-r--r-- 1 nova nobody 2094684 Apr 14 13:30 00000001 | 09:32 |
| BK_man | -rw-r--r-- 1 nova nobody 2698697 Apr 14 13:30 00000002 | 09:32 |
| BK_man | -rw-r--r-- 1 nova nobody 0 Apr 14 13:30 00000003_sm | 09:32 |
| * BK_man above is too small for paste.openstack.org, sorry guys :) | 09:32 | |
| soren | Too small? | 09:32 |
| soren | How so? | 09:32 |
| ttx | soren: the ls -l output, I suppose | 09:33 |
| BK_man | soren: so, it can't copy rootfs from unexistant file | 09:33 |
| ttx | small enough to not warrant a pastebin | 09:33 |
| ttx | BK_man: your last paste looks like a different issue | 09:34 |
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| ttx | Bug 760422 looks a lot by design. | 09:37 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 760422 in nova "exception.NotFound occurred when installing nova-objectstore in a different marchine from nova-compute" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760422 | 09:37 |
| ttx | since we now defaults to local storage | 09:38 |
| ttx | BK_man: in all cases I'd be surprised if it worked recently. At least not since objectstore was refactored | 09:40 |
| ttx | BK_man: please file a separate bug for your Glance-based issue | 09:40 |
| BK_man | ttx: I don't think it's Glance issue since it look almost the same for Glance & local storage | 09:41 |
| * BK_man debugging _cache_image in libvirt_conn.py | 09:41 | |
| BK_man | should _cache_image get 0000003 instead of 0000003_sm for rootfs? | 09:42 |
| BK_man | see http://paste.openstack.org/show/1193/ | 09:42 |
| ttx | they look different to me. In your last trace you should get more info in Glance logs | 09:44 |
| zigo-_- | How can I do a forced push with bzr? | 09:44 |
| zigo-_- | I rewrote my branch... | 09:44 |
| ttx | since the glance client complains ab out the Glance server status line | 09:44 |
| zigo-_- | Now, I'd like that what's online on launchpad be ovewritten by my new commits. | 09:44 |
| zigo-_- | So, what's the equivalent of "git push --force" ? | 09:45 |
| BK_man | is that a known issue with glance? | 09:45 |
| BK_man | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1194/ | 09:45 |
| ttx | BK_man: what glance version are you running ? | 09:46 |
| BK_man | ttx: trunk autobuilds. let me check | 09:46 |
| BK_man | ttx: bzr113 | 09:46 |
| soren | zigo-_-: Why? | 09:47 |
| soren | zigo-_-: There's a --overwrite, but it's thoroughly discouraged. | 09:47 |
| zigo-_- | soren: Because you didn't take my changes, and it diverged ... | 09:48 |
| zigo-_- | And also, my commit history wasn't clean at all. | 09:48 |
| zigo-_- | So I wanted to push something with a nicer history. | 09:49 |
| zigo-_- | Can you pull now? | 09:49 |
| soren | zigo-_-: Noone looks at the history anyway. | 09:49 |
| zigo-_- | bazaar.launchpad.net/~thomas-goirand/nova/debian | 09:49 |
| soren | In bzr, you don't (you can, but you don't) rebase. You just merge. | 09:49 |
| soren | bzr is not a patch management system. It's a revision control system. | 09:50 |
| zigo-_- | I'd appreciate if you'd just pull my changes now, so it wont diverge again. | 09:51 |
| zigo-_- | Plus, we already discussed the changes... | 09:52 |
| soren | Diverging branches is not a problem. | 09:52 |
| soren | In itself. | 09:52 |
| zigo-_- | ... | 09:52 |
| zigo-_- | Why do you always love to discuss? :) | 09:53 |
| zigo-_- | Just pull, ack, move forward ... | 09:53 |
| zigo-_- | :) | 09:53 |
| soren | Because, like you, I'm not just going to take other people's changes and blindly apply them to my code and upload anywhere. | 09:53 |
| zigo-_- | I never said that. | 09:54 |
| soren | Sure you did. | 09:54 |
| ttx | BK_man: strange bug, pretty sure it's a corner case | 09:54 |
| soren | zigo-_-: "Moreover, I hope my work wont just be "downstream", I hope we will constructively collaborate and work together! If what you expect me to do is just download your work, do a build, and upload blindly to Debian, that wont work, I'll be of no use. " | 09:55 |
| zigo-_- | Which is why I am sending you patches. | 09:56 |
| soren | Right. And it's why I'm not just pulling, acking, and moving forward. I have to review this stuff. | 09:56 |
| soren | ..and now that you've rebased, I have to go through *everything* again, because I can't just look at your most recent chagnes. | 09:56 |
| * ttx disappears to get his daughter from school, back in ~90min | 09:57 | |
| soren | ttx: Have fun. | 09:57 |
| soren | zigo-_-: I can't help but notice that you've documented *nothing* in debian/changelog. | 09:58 |
| zigo-_- | soren: I can do that if you want... | 09:59 |
| zigo-_- | But more or less, it's going to be a cut/past from "bzr log". | 09:59 |
| soren | zigo-_-: That's fine. | 10:01 |
| zigo-_- | doing it... | 10:01 |
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| zigo-_- | Done. | 10:05 |
| soren | The man pages still talk about a "cloud controller", apparently. | 10:06 |
| zigo-_- | That can be fixed later on, no? | 10:07 |
| soren | Why the rush to get in? | 10:07 |
| zigo-_- | Correcting. | 10:08 |
| zigo-_- | Rush??? | 10:08 |
| zigo-_- | It's been quite some time these are ready! | 10:08 |
| soren | Yes? | 10:08 |
| soren | IT's been quite some time since I pointed this out to you. And now you want me to accept the patch instead of you fixing it. That's "rush" in my book. | 10:09 |
| zigo-_- | So, because of man pages that are only stubs to be filled when we got time, you are going to reject ALL ? | 10:11 |
| soren | You are proposing this as one big patch. | 10:12 |
| soren | So yes. | 10:12 |
| zigo-_- | Take all the commits but the man pages then... | 10:12 |
| soren | I'm not done reviewing it again. | 10:13 |
| zigo-_- | I did a clean history for this very reason! | 10:13 |
| soren | As I said: You rebased, so I have to start all over. | 10:13 |
| zigo-_- | Anyway, I'm fixing... | 10:13 |
| soren | Thanks. | 10:14 |
| zigo-_- | Pushed up to revision 145. | 10:16 |
| zigo-_- | There was other mistakes too that I fixed in these man pages. | 10:16 |
| * soren also never subscribed to the idea that a stub man page is better than no man page, but meh. | 10:16 | |
| BK_man | ttx: false alarm | 10:16 |
| BK_man | ttx: with Glance | 10:16 |
| zigo-_- | Well, the man pages that I wrote at least document the --flag-file parameter that is used, and what the daemons are for. | 10:17 |
| BK_man | ttx: soren: sleep 15 between euca-upload-bundle (the final one) and euca-run-instances solved my problem | 10:17 |
| zigo-_- | So it's better than nothing. | 10:17 |
| BK_man | ttx: soren: uploading of rootfs.qcow2 takes ~10 secs | 10:17 |
| zigo-_- | I got to go. | 10:18 |
| BK_man | ttx: soren: and I think it's async rather than sync | 10:18 |
| zigo-_- | Shanghai Linux User Group hacking thursday time ... :) | 10:18 |
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| alekibango | soren: stub man page is something to bug about :) missing man page looks like intent | 10:20 |
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| HugoKuo_ | is the difference between Glance and SWIFT , Glance provide image service for instance ? | 10:31 |
| BK_man | HugoKuo_: Glance also can be a client for Swift | 10:41 |
| HugoKuo_ | thanks | 10:41 |
| * BK_man running to lunch | 10:41 | |
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| HugoKuo_ | what if I just want to use glance for compute node to retrive image , is that very hard ? | 11:03 |
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| mihgen | Can be Nova configured to use Swift directly, without Glance? | 11:20 |
| sandywalsh_ | soren, heh ... good idea putting "emailreview.py" in the sig of the review day email | 11:21 |
| HugoKuo_ | mihgen : in my knowing "can not" | 11:22 |
| mihgen | HugoKuo_: That's what I thought. Have you succeed to connect glance->swift? | 11:24 |
| soren | sandywalsh_: Still, almost everyone responds to it. Seriously :) | 11:24 |
| HugoKuo_ | mihgen : sorry I did not use swift now . I play with Swift 4 months ago .... | 11:24 |
| sandywalsh_ | soren, I was about to until I saw it | 11:25 |
| soren | sandywalsh_: Well, you still responded. Just on IRC :) | 11:26 |
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| sandywalsh_ | soren last time ... promise | 11:26 |
| soren | Oh, it's fine! :) | 11:27 |
| soren | It's just mildly amusing. | 11:27 |
| sandywalsh_ | :) | 11:27 |
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| * onlany is waiting for cactus release very much :) | 11:28 | |
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| ttx | Nova RC milestone is up | 11:34 |
| sandywalsh_ | \o/ | 11:34 |
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| ttx | Glance RC milestone is up | 11:35 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/nova/cactus/cactus-rc | 11:35 |
| ttx | https://launchpad.net/glance/cactus/cactus-rc | 11:35 |
| ttx | notmyname: waiting on you to push the 1.3-rc versioning branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~ttx/swift/cactus-rc-version/+merge/57635 | 11:36 |
| ttx | notmyname: or let me know if I can release RC with "1.3-dev" | 11:36 |
| rsaidan | ttx: can you tell me what ppa should we be using for the cactus-rc release? | 11:36 |
| ttx | rsaidan: the RC should appear on the nova-core/trunk PPA | 11:37 |
| ttx | as "bzr988" | 11:37 |
| * ttx looks up if it's there already | 11:37 | |
| rsaidan | ttx: thx.. trunk is the dev branch right? do we use this until cactus is officially released? | 11:38 |
| ttx | rsaidan: yes | 11:39 |
| rsaidan | ttx: great | 11:39 |
| ttx | soren: looks like glance bzr113 never made it to PPA | 11:39 |
| ttx | soren: maybe a sideeffect of the outage | 11:39 |
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| * ttx tags | 11:40 | |
| sandywalsh_ | interesting discussion of the AGPL http://www.keeneview.com/2011/04/death-by-cloud-how-amazon-is-killing.html | 11:41 |
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| soren | ttx: /me investigates | 12:08 |
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| soren | ttx: PPA builds on their way. | 12:25 |
| soren | If not done already. | 12:25 |
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| ttx | ok, numbers coming up. Based on the title, so I might be wrong. | 12:28 |
| ttx | 6 22 56 64 67 80 85 101 102 | 12:29 |
| ttx | + yours obviously, but I guess you upvoted that one already :) | 12:29 |
| ttx | maybe 3 | 12:30 |
| sandywalsh_ | question about lp merges *not* to lp:nova ... myself and dabo are working on a branch and issuing merge-props into our shared dev branch. If I final-approve these will LP handle the merge? Or does it need to be done manually by one of us? | 12:30 |
| ttx | oops | 12:30 |
| ttx | wrong chan | 12:31 |
| ttx | sandywalsh_: no, you need to manually push. Or setup a jenkins/tarmac job to do it for you | 12:31 |
| sandywalsh_ | ttx, k thanks again! | 12:34 |
| doude | Hi all, I use 2011.2~gamma2~bzr988-0ubuntu0ppa1~lucid1 with KVM on 2 compute nodes (A and B). I can migrate a instance from B to A but not from A to B. When it fails, I cannot see anything in log files (Nova or libvirt). I check my libvirt configuration on the two hosts and they seem similar. Can you help me ? | 12:36 |
| n1md4 | # euca-authorize -P icmp -t -1:-1 default | 12:36 |
| n1md4 | [Errno 111] Connection refused | 12:36 |
| n1md4 | ? :( | 12:36 |
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| doude | The log of the two compute nodes : http://pastebin.com/dR1T4t7P | 12:38 |
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| sandywalsh_ | I'm looking at all these docstring merge-props ... what's the rule on using " vs. ' ... is there a new rule in place? | 12:58 |
| notmyname | ttx: done | 12:59 |
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| ttx | notmyname: cool. Will push RC as soon as a new tarball is out of the Jenkins mill. | 13:02 |
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| jaypipes | sandywalsh_: specifically for docstrings? I think """ only. | 13:11 |
| sandywalsh_ | jaypipes, for example https://code.launchpad.net/~termie/nova/docstring_cleanup_6/+merge/57239 ... most is changing "foo" to 'foo' | 13:11 |
| jaypipes | sandywalsh_: heh, I've been staying out of those reviews... I don't really care about the ' vs ", to be honest. It's not a top priority of mine ;) | 13:13 |
| sandywalsh_ | jaypipes, 100% agree ... just curious | 13:13 |
| jaypipes | sandywalsh_: I know of no documentation on what the preferred style is. | 13:13 |
| sandywalsh_ | jaypipes, that's what I thought too ... personal preference. | 13:14 |
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| sandywalsh_ | ttx is there a way we should mark the merge props that have enough approves, but waiting on diablo? | 13:17 |
| sandywalsh_ | ttx to make searching easier later? | 13:17 |
| openstackjenkins | Project swift build #238: SUCCESS in 32 sec: http://jenkins.openstack.org/job/swift/238/ | 13:17 |
| openstackjenkins | Tarmac: Bump version to 1.3-rc | 13:17 |
| ttx | sandywalsh_: not really, you can comment on them that they are good to go... We'll go through them as part of the branch rollover | 13:17 |
| sandywalsh_ | k | 13:18 |
| ttx | sandywalsh_: maybe set a review type (like "diablo") so that it shows at the top | 13:18 |
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| dabo | sandywalsh_: For docstrings, """ is an almost universal standard. For normal string quoting, either is fine, but consistency is important. | 13:19 |
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| dabo | sandywalsh_: most people use the single quote for strings, but I think that's because they are too lazy to hit the shift key :) | 13:19 |
| sandywalsh_ | dabo, yeah, I'm cool with the docstring """ ... it was the other change that confused me | 13:19 |
| sandywalsh_ | seemed like a lot of effort for no clear reason | 13:20 |
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| dabo | mixing quote styles is just one of those things that makes code in a language that prides itself on good-looking, readable code a little less aesthetically pleasing | 13:22 |
| ttx | Swift RC out at https://launchpad.net/swift/1.3/1.3-rc | 13:23 |
| shermanboyd | I'm trying to put together a Openstack proof of concept cluster, should I start with the Cactus RC? | 13:25 |
| ttx | shermanboyd: pending acts of god, it should be what the release will be. | 13:25 |
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| shermanboyd | I'm having trouble understanding the overarching architecture, I'm finding lot's of component level documentation, but not a good doc explaining what each component is and how it works with the others ... is there a doc like that out there? | 13:28 |
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| sandywalsh_ | shermanboyd, the intro to my zone spec might be of use? http://wiki.openstack.org/MultiClusterZones (not the latter parts, since it's a spec) | 13:35 |
| shermanboyd | sandywalsh_: thanks I'll take a look | 13:35 |
| shermanboyd | on a different note, I have a friend who says he accidentally "brought down" rackspace cloud by spinning up 500 instances at once. I'm wondering if openstacks architecture would handle that better ... | 13:38 |
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| sandywalsh_ | shermanboyd, heh ... that's the plan | 13:39 |
| blamar | shermanboyd: That could be a good thing to shoot for...but I'm not sure it's quite there yet. | 13:39 |
| shermanboyd | I'm working on a 4 node cluster | 13:40 |
| sandywalsh_ | shermanboyd, node = compute node? | 13:40 |
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| shermanboyd | yeah but they will have to do double duty | 13:40 |
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| sandywalsh_ | shermanboyd, yeah, most do :) | 13:41 |
| shermanboyd | sandywalsh_: I have 4 servers w/ 64G ram and 3TB drive arrays | 13:41 |
| sandywalsh_ | fun! | 13:41 |
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| sandywalsh_ | which hypervisor? | 13:41 |
| shermanboyd | sandywalsh_: I like KVM | 13:41 |
| shermanboyd | sandywalsh_: but if cactus supports container virtualization I'd like to play with that too | 13:42 |
| soren | It does. | 13:42 |
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| rsaidan | is anyone here using postgres database? I seem to be getting programming errors, is I switch to mysql and restart nova-* everything works fine. | 13:43 |
| rsaidan | the errors i'm seeing are: | 13:43 |
| rsaidan | (nova): TRACE: ProgrammingError: (ProgrammingError) operator does not exist: character varying = integer | 13:43 |
| rsaidan | (nova): TRACE: LINE 2: ...AS instance_types_1 ON instances.instance_type_id = instance... | 13:43 |
| ttx | notmyname: I prepared https://code.launchpad.net/~ttx/swift/final-1.3.0-version/+merge/57678 for you -- please accept at the very end of your day, when you're OK for release. | 13:43 |
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| rsaidan | TRACE: HINT: No operator matches the given name and argument type(s). You might need to add explicit type casts. | 13:43 |
| notmyname | ttx: will do | 13:44 |
| ttx | jaypipes: I prepared https://code.launchpad.net/~ttx/glance/cactus-final-version/+merge/57628 for you -- please accept at the very end of your day, when/if you're OK for release. | 13:44 |
| ttx | vishy: I prepared https://code.launchpad.net/~ttx/nova/cactus-final-version/+merge/57627 for you -- please accept at the very end of your day, when/if you're OK for release. | 13:45 |
| * ttx can't wait for more projects to join to continue copypasting stuff. | 13:45 | |
| jaypipes | ttx: okey dokey. | 13:45 |
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| ttx | notmyname, jaypipes, vishy: in the mean time, don't hesitate to contribute any known bug that users should be aware of to http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Cactus | 13:47 |
| ttx | please also check that the feature description makes sense :) | 13:47 |
| jaypipes | ttx: will do. | 13:48 |
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| shermanboyd | sandywalsh_: I like your proposal, I think rackspace does something like this, they call them puddles | 14:03 |
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| sandywalsh_ | shermanboyd, huddles :) | 14:09 |
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| blamar | although I like the 'puddles' concept... | 14:09 |
| shermanboyd | sandywalsh_: ahh hah hah | 14:09 |
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| shermanboyd | I got that second hand from they guy that spun up 500 instances on rackspace | 14:10 |
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| shermanboyd | I've been calling my redundant hardware zones puddles ever since | 14:12 |
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| shermanboyd | is there anything I should know when installing the Ubuntu 10.4.2 LTS in preparation for Openstack? What filesystem should I use, anything I should know about partition layout etc? | 15:13 |
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| doude | Hi, I've got an allocated floating IP address associated to an instance and if I've release it before disassociate it, the floating IP stills associated to the instance and not listed by describe address command. Do you know this bug ? | 15:30 |
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| BK_man | doude: hi. my pals are playing a lot with floating IPs. | 15:33 |
| BK_man | doude: they are off for a dinner at the moment. | 15:33 |
| BK_man | doude: ask adiantum for help for floating IPs | 15:33 |
| kbringard | I've done some work with floating ips, I may be able to help | 15:33 |
| doude | BK_man: ok | 15:34 |
| clayg_ | shermanboyd: you might do maverick instead of lucid... is this a development installation (i.e. "all in one") or a production node (compute/controller/volume/api/etc?) | 15:36 |
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| shermanboyd | clayg_: It's a little bit of both, I've got 4 servers and I expect they will each have to bear multiple roles | 15:51 |
| shermanboyd | clayg_: I'm still trying to figure out exactly what the best strategy would be | 15:52 |
| shermanboyd | clayg_: but the intention is to run production on these same servers | 15:53 |
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| shermanboyd | clayg_: right now I'm thinking server1(compute,controller,volume,api) server2(compute,volume) server3(compute,volume) server4(compute,volume) | 15:55 |
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| clayg_ | shermanboyd: that's probably pretty good, no failover on the api server tho... | 15:58 |
| clayg_ | the volume manager will want some disk carved out to be added to the nova-volume group, that's all I can think of on partitioning - filesystem should be whatever you're most comfortable with | 15:58 |
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| shermanboyd | clayg_: server2(compute,controller,volume,api) | 15:59 |
| kbringard | speaking of API failover... I tried to setup the API on 2 backend servers and load balance them, but it didn't work because the signatures include the host you're connecting to in them | 16:00 |
| kbringard | so when you say api failover, do you mean manual failover? | 16:00 |
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| kbringard | or has that been updated? (it's been awhile since I tested it) | 16:01 |
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| clayg_ | kbringard: oh idk I haven't personally tested a production nova cluster - I was just mapping over my experience with swift proxies. If you can't lb the api servers - that's a real problem :\ | 16:02 |
| kbringard | yea, like I said, the issue I had was that the signatures were generated based on the hostname of the LB | 16:03 |
| shermanboyd | clayg_: how big can I expect the controller db to be? | 16:03 |
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| kbringard | so when it'd send the connection back to the actual API server, the sig was wrong | 16:03 |
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| kbringard | there's probably a way around it by messing with hostnames and stuff though | 16:03 |
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| shermanboyd | clayg_: also why would you go with maverick? | 16:07 |
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| clayg_ | meh, either is probably fine, but I've had better luck with newer releases. For example the 10.04 python-routes package (1.11?) isn't compatible with trunk, but python-routes 1.14 is already included in maverick | 16:10 |
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| shermanboyd | clayg_: ok, I generally stick to to LTS for production , but openstack is still a fast moving target | 16:14 |
| shermanboyd | I should just deploy on gentoo | 16:15 |
| shermanboyd | =) | 16:15 |
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| xavicampa | hi! I'm setting up a private cloud across a few nodes. The ubuntu installation guide in openstack doc states you don't need nova-api nor nova-scheduler in the compute nodes, but what about nova-objectstore and rabbitmq-server? | 16:17 |
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| xavicampa | I assume the cloud controller requires all components to be running (a bit unsure about the need for nova-compute), while the compute node only requires nova-compute and nova-network. Can anybody confirm this is correct in a multiple server setup? | 16:28 |
| kbringard | compute only requires compute | 16:29 |
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| kbringard | network should only be running on the network controller | 16:29 |
| kbringard | since it handles routing and dhcp | 16:29 |
| kbringard | xavicampa: you can have anything running anywhere, so long as it knows where the rabbitmq server is | 16:30 |
| kbringard | and of course the DB | 16:30 |
| dubsquared | I just updated to the gamma code, and now my nodes aren't checking-in as expected…when i run nova-manage service list they are showing up as XXX… is there anything I need to do to 'reinit' these? | 16:31 |
| kbringard | dubsquared: don't think so... are the times synced? | 16:31 |
| kbringard | I had that problem before | 16:31 |
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| dubsquared | oooo | 16:31 |
| dubsquared | i didn't check that... | 16:31 |
| kbringard | generally I run a quick ntpdate time.apple.com on all of them | 16:32 |
| kbringard | or whatever ntp server you want to use | 16:32 |
| kbringard | also, did you update the code on the nodes as well? | 16:33 |
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| xavicampa | kbringard, thanks. I'm trying to run the compute nodes as light as possible, to maximize the resources available to VMs, and at the same time I try to understand well the roles of the different components by installing them in different machines | 16:37 |
| xavicampa | that's why I'm try to find out what needs to be running where, and how many instances can be in the whole network setup | 16:37 |
| dubsquared | heh, holy crap | 16:37 |
| dubsquared | ntpdate http://time.apple.com/ worked... | 16:37 |
| kbringard | :-) | 16:38 |
| dubsquared | ive actually seen that said, but first ive ever ran into it myself | 16:38 |
| dubsquared | thanks! | 16:38 |
| kbringard | no prob | 16:38 |
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| kbringard | I'd probably make sure the ntpd is running, so the times stay synced | 16:38 |
| dubsquared | yeah, just pushed down a ntp.conf to all the nodes | 16:39 |
| kbringard | don't want clock drift taking your nodes offline, hehe | 16:39 |
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| kbringard | cool, hopefully that doesn't happen again then :-D | 16:40 |
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| shermanboyd | Is the openstack summit info here still accurate: http://wiki.openstack.org/Summit/Planning | 16:54 |
| shermanboyd | Location: Hyatt Santa Clara, CA | 16:54 |
| shermanboyd | April 26 - 29, 2011 | 16:54 |
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| kbringard | shermanboyd: that's where I'm going, so I hope so :-) | 16:54 |
| shermanboyd | lol | 16:55 |
| shermanboyd | do I need to register or anything to attend? | 16:55 |
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| kbringard | yea, there is a registration link somewhere | 16:55 |
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| kbringard | I'm looking for it | 16:56 |
| blamar | I think registration closed last week? But I'm not certain... | 16:56 |
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| kbringard | http://www.openstack.org/blog/2011/03/openstack-conference-design-summit-2011-sponsored-by-citrix/ | 16:56 |
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| kbringard | hmm, yea, it says it's closed | 16:57 |
| kbringard | sorry shermanboyd | 16:57 |
| shermanboyd | ugh | 16:57 |
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| shermanboyd | bummer | 16:59 |
| vishy | apt-get install ntp is safer | 17:01 |
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| kbringard | jeebs, it's like tornado windy outside | 17:09 |
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| dubsquared | kbringard: have you seen this? only happening on the nodes... | 17:23 |
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| dubsquared | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1195/ | 17:23 |
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| dubsquared | and yes, virt is enabled in bios :D | 17:23 |
| kbringard | heh, uhm.. | 17:24 |
| kbringard | what image store are you using? | 17:24 |
| dubsquared | glance | 17:24 |
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| dubsquared | with….not swift | 17:24 |
| kbringard | I recall having similar issues... although I don't recall it being that specific error | 17:25 |
| kbringard | but I think what happened was that the images that were cached in base were broken | 17:25 |
| kbringard | _base | 17:26 |
| dubsquared | ah.. | 17:26 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #760921 in nova "nbd device busy and inject key fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760921 | 17:26 |
| dubsquared | ive been dealing with that far too much latelt | 17:26 |
| kbringard | like, what had happened to me was | 17:26 |
| dubsquared | lemme try to reup | 17:26 |
| kbringard | I had removed the images from glance | 17:26 |
| kbringard | then uploaded them again | 17:26 |
| kbringard | or rather, I switched glance to mysql | 17:27 |
| kbringard | and reupped the images | 17:27 |
| kbringard | so there was an image name conflict | 17:27 |
| dubsquared | i see | 17:27 |
| kbringard | so it was trying to load image 1, which it found in _base, but it was the wrong image, or something like that | 17:27 |
| dubsquared | yeah, i ran into a similar problem ... | 17:27 |
| dubsquared | but my instances boot on one server | 17:28 |
| dubsquared | (where api, network, etc live) | 17:28 |
| dubsquared | just not on the nodes that just have compute only | 17:28 |
| kbringard | hmmmm | 17:28 |
| kbringard | do they know where the DB and rabbitmq are? | 17:28 |
| kpepple | dubsquared: the specific error you are getting (linux_net.py:286) is trying to save iptables ... | 17:28 |
| kbringard | yea, maybe iptables isn't installed on your compute nodes? | 17:28 |
| dubsquared | root@colo08:~# dpkg -l | grep iptables | 17:29 |
| dubsquared | ii iptables 1.4.4-2ubuntu2 administration tools for packet filtering an | 17:29 |
| dubsquared | and yes, rabbit and sql_conn are set in nova.conf | 17:29 |
| kbringard | can you run iptables-save manually on that compute node? | 17:30 |
| dubsquared | yeah | 17:30 |
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| kbringard | maybe a bug... sorry, I've not seen that particular error :-/ | 17:31 |
| kpepple | dubsquared: it's catching an exception on "sudo iptables-save -t filter" ... long shot -- did you update the code on all of the nodes ? I've seen that type of error when the DB gets updated but the nova-compute doesn't | 17:31 |
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| dubsquared | Yeah, code is uptodate on all the nodes, and the 'controller' | 17:32 |
| kpepple | dubsquared: so other possibility is the eventlet ... is it up to 0.9.12 ? | 17:33 |
| dubsquared | 0.9.12-0ubuntu2~lucid1 | 17:34 |
| dubsquared | hmm, im going to get some food for my brain…I'll be back in a bit, and maybe it will be magically fixed when i come back, or it will come to me while i am stuffing my face | 17:35 |
| dubsquared | thanks for the help guys, much appreciated! bbiab! | 17:36 |
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| kpepple | dubsquared: i think you've run into the eventlet bug because you are using the stock eventlet ... not the patched one from our ppa. see https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+faq/1485 | 17:42 |
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| notmyname | ttx: got some questions for ya about the summit | 18:00 |
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| dinnerjacket | hey guys, I just upgraded an installation of trunk bzr655 to trunk_safe bzr641, and I'm wondering about that new 'zones' table in the DB | 18:05 |
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| dinnerjacket | it's currently empty; anythig I need to put there? | 18:05 |
| dinnerjacket | *anything | 18:05 |
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| kpepple | dinnerjacket: look at doc/source/devref/zones.rst ... but AFAIK nothing unless you want to have multiple availability zones | 18:12 |
| dinnerjacket | kpepple: ok, thanks, I'll check that out. currently having an issue with some instances 404'ing on the .../placement/availability-zones URL during init, and thought that might be worth looking at | 18:14 |
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| notmyname | ttx: are the sessions only to be about future development or should we include sessions on teaching/lessons-learned/lightling-talks/etc? | 18:18 |
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| ttx | notmyname: theoretically the design summit sessions are about future features... we have lightning talks every day | 18:23 |
| ttx | notmyname: the "conference" had a technical track for more classic presentations. | 18:24 |
| ttx | notmyname: that said, if there are holes in the schedule, why not | 18:24 |
| ttx | notmyname: last time we did tutorials/demos on the empty slots on the last day. | 18:25 |
| ttx | notmyname: I have no idea how full the schedule will be, we should have more clue mid-next-week. | 18:26 |
| ttx | notmyname: no need to submit a blueprint for those, we'll add them statically in the schedule if there is room. | 18:26 |
| ttx | notmyname: makes sense ? | 18:27 |
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| gholt | ttx, notmyname: Coolio, I was actually the one bugging him about that, hehe. | 18:28 |
| gholt | Maybe not this summit, but at some point I think cool "teaching" sessions would be good. | 18:28 |
| notmyname | ttx: ya, sorry. got pulled away for a moment | 18:28 |
| gholt | I know that last time we had installfest type things going on, which was cool. | 18:29 |
| notmyname | ttx: we were thinking of teaching sessions of both cool stuff in the code (like the rings in swift) and for lessons-learned type stuff (like things RAX has learned trying to make swift scale) | 18:29 |
| ttx | notmyname: understood. The 'technical track' of the conference was supposed to give us room for those kind of sessions... but there were not so many slots | 18:30 |
| ttx | and maybe they weren't advertised to developers as much as they should have. | 18:31 |
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| notmyname | ttx: ok. just trying to figure out which sessions I'm going to be adding for swift. Unless I hear differently from you, I will not add any teaching/lessons-learned sessions | 18:37 |
| ttx | notmyname: maybe I should set up some etherpad or wiki page to track proposals | 18:38 |
| ttx | notmyname: let me do that. | 18:39 |
| notmyname | forgive my ignorance, but isn't that what blueprints are supposed to do? | 18:39 |
| notmyname | make the blueprints for all the proposed things, and then select the ones for the schedule | 18:39 |
| notmyname | ? | 18:39 |
| ttx | notmyname: oh, I meant for teaching / lessons-learned ines | 18:40 |
| ttx | ones* | 18:40 |
| notmyname | ah | 18:40 |
| notmyname | those aren't managed with blueprints too? | 18:40 |
| ttx | notmyname: hm... we could. | 18:40 |
| notmyname | I'm not necessarily a fan of lp or blueprints, but it seems to make sense to use only one tool | 18:41 |
| ttx | notmyname: these teaching/lessons-learned sessions are a new concept | 18:41 |
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| ttx | notmyname: I'll give it a thought and keep you posted | 18:42 |
| notmyname | ok | 18:42 |
| ttx | maybe we can file regular BPs and set implementation to "informational" | 18:42 |
| ttx | just need to check the summit scheduling would not ignore them. | 18:42 |
| notmyname | as openstack gets more mature, I can imagine that the summits can become a place for both planning and info dissemination. like a pycon but just for openstack :-) | 18:44 |
| btorch | so nova uses xen-api-server or xend-http-server ? | 18:44 |
| medberry | notmyname, I think that that should be distinct from the summit. There's room for more than one meeting. If (and I'm speculating) OpenStack drops to two releases/year and summits drop to twice a year, there is probably planning/person power to handle an additional users conference (possibly in conjunction but possibly at another time) | 18:47 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #761014 in nova "X-Server-Management-Url is filled from http header" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/761014 | 19:01 |
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| _vinay | Hi | 19:33 |
| _vinay | I am using the EC2 api to run instances | 19:33 |
| _vinay | run_instances() | 19:33 |
| _vinay | it returns a type of boto.ec2.instance.Reservation | 19:34 |
| _vinay | my question is how to get the instance_id from this reservation ? | 19:34 |
| kbringard | are you writing your own tools, or using the euca2ools? | 19:34 |
| _vinay | writing my own tool | 19:34 |
| _vinay | python | 19:34 |
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| kbringard | I'd look at the source of the euca2ools then | 19:35 |
| kbringard | see how ecua-describe-instances works | 19:35 |
| _vinay | hmm... | 19:35 |
| _vinay | I could look at that | 19:35 |
| kbringard | or, if you can dump the data structure of the boto object that is returned | 19:35 |
| kbringard | then determine the path to the instance id | 19:35 |
| _vinay | I did that (dump) :) | 19:35 |
| _vinay | it seems to be a simple string | 19:36 |
| kbringard | I want to say it's probably XML? | 19:36 |
| _vinay | so I found it weird that the api will require me to do another round trip | 19:36 |
| _vinay | this is the output: | 19:36 |
| _vinay | type: <class 'boto.ec2.instance.Reservation'> Reservation:r-f4o8prwk | 19:36 |
| _vinay | inst = self.conn.run_instances(u'ami-3f3lc0fb') print >> sys.__stdout__, 'type: %s' % (type(inst)) self.pp.pprint(inst) | 19:37 |
| kbringard | yea, sorry, I don't know | 19:38 |
| _vinay | anyways will dig deeper into the Reservation class... | 19:38 |
| _vinay | thanks | 19:38 |
| _vinay | no issues :) | 19:38 |
| kbringard | I've not done any coding on my own | 19:38 |
| kbringard | to that level | 19:38 |
| kbringard | are you using the boto classes? | 19:38 |
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| _vinay | ok thats fine.. just thought someone on this forum might know off the top of his head... ;-) | 19:38 |
| _vinay | yes ... boto classes | 19:39 |
| kbringard | I would have thought that they'd have all the logic for pulling the correct info out of the API | 19:39 |
| kbringard | but again, I really have no idea | 19:39 |
| _vinay | I thought so too... | 19:39 |
| _vinay | no probs ... thanks again.. will look into source code of class ... | 19:40 |
| kbringard | np, good luck | 19:40 |
| kbringard | I'd be interested to hear what you find | 19:40 |
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| photron | _vinay: in case you didn't figure it out yet, a reservation has a instances member that is a list of boto.ec2.instance.Instance objects. Instance has an id member, that's you instance id | 19:58 |
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| photron | _vinay: the official api documentation of boto is pretty sparse and doesn't list possible properties of objects, it just documents the methods. giving the api user a hard time using it | 20:02 |
| markwash | anyone from ntt on here? I have some questions about nova.db.api.instance_get_fixed_address_v6 | 20:03 |
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| Ryan_Lane | if I run more than one network node, will each network node pick up the NAT changes from the queue, or will they interfere with one another? | 20:18 |
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| dabo | Am I missing something? How are compute nodes supposed to "register" themselves so that their presence and capabilities are reflected in the compute_nodes table? | 21:00 |
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| dubsquared | i just check it with nova-manage service list, or check nova.services in mysql | 21:03 |
| dubsquared | not sure about the compute_nodes table angle | 21:04 |
| Ryan_Lane | I've just imagined a fair amount of "black magic" when it comes to that service list | 21:04 |
| dabo | Ryan_Lane: I had assumed that the same "black magic" applied to the compute_nodes table, too, but mine are empty even with several nodes present. | 21:05 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 21:06 |
| dabo | dubsquared: yeah, but I need the capabilities in the compute_nodes columns for the scheduler. I had assumed that they were auto-magically populated. | 21:06 |
| dubsquared | there is lot that nova doesn't do automagically D: | 21:07 |
| dubsquared | but it should, and will! | 21:07 |
| Ryan_Lane | which brings me to a question I asked earlier… :) | 21:07 |
| dabo | dubsquared: ok, thanks. Guess I have to provide the magic | 21:07 |
| Ryan_Lane | if I run more than one network node, will each network node pick up the NAT changes from the queue, or will they interfere with one another? | 21:07 |
| * Ryan_Lane wants to run more than one network node | 21:08 | |
| dabo | Ryan_Lane: not sure - I haven't been digging into the network code, just the compute | 21:08 |
| Ryan_Lane | I guess I can just test it | 21:08 |
| dabo | that might work. :) | 21:08 |
| dubsquared | with the state of the networking in nova today… i wish you the best of work | 21:09 |
| dubsquared | er | 21:09 |
| dubsquared | luck | 21:09 |
| Ryan_Lane | I want to have static NAT mapping on each node | 21:09 |
| Ryan_Lane | and set the gateway as my router | 21:09 |
| Ryan_Lane | and have each compute node also run the network node | 21:09 |
| Ryan_Lane | if they all get the NAT mappings, and the DHCP mappings, it should work perfectly | 21:09 |
| Ryan_Lane | if they pick up and remove items from the queue, it will work very poorly :) | 21:10 |
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| Ryan_Lane | this way the network-node won't be a single point of failure for the instances | 21:10 |
| dabo | depends how the queue is configured | 21:10 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah. should be easy to test I guess | 21:11 |
| dabo | we had to add fanout queues for multi-zone | 21:11 |
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| Ryan_Lane | I may also add pybal support for BGP load balancing | 21:11 |
| kbringard | i totally read that as paypal support | 21:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 21:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | definitely not paypal :) | 21:12 |
| kbringard | good call | 21:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | integrating evil into a project isn't good | 21:12 |
| kbringard | agreed | 21:13 |
| kbringard | someone needs to tell google that | 21:13 |
| Ryan_Lane | :D | 21:14 |
| deepy | There's no 'evil' in Python | 21:15 |
| kbringard | anyone seen this error before? | 21:16 |
| kbringard | Error: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info chardev' | 21:16 |
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| kbringard | it's only happening with one image... and I can launch this particular image on the same host that has glance running, but when it tries to go to a compute node that isn't the glance host, it fails with that error | 21:17 |
| kbringard | I'm running ppa bzr981 on all my nodes | 21:18 |
| kbringard | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1196/ | 21:19 |
| kbringard | that's the whole trace | 21:19 |
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| OpenStack083 | Hello | 21:31 |
| n1md4 | kbringard: Yes, I've had this. | 21:31 |
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| kbringard | n1md4: any ideas what you did to fix it? | 21:31 |
| n1md4 | I could only solve this by crudely scp instances/base_ to each node. | 21:31 |
| kbringard | last time this happened, it was because the images in _base didn't match | 21:31 |
| OpenStack083 | can someone tell me how to delete user account in SWIFT | 21:31 |
| kbringard | n1md4: ok, that makes sense then | 21:31 |
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| kbringard | anyone know if there is any harm in removing images from _base/ while there are instances running on the compute host? | 21:32 |
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| n1md4 | kbringard: I | 21:35 |
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| n1md4 | kbringard: I have 1 node and have just moved the _base file away from instances, and it's still up. | 21:35 |
| n1md4 | sorry, 1 instance. | 21:36 |
| kbringard | ok, cool | 21:36 |
| kbringard | I'll probably just blast everything in _base | 21:36 |
| kbringard | and try launching instances again | 21:36 |
| kbringard | thanks n1md4 | 21:36 |
| n1md4 | I'm nost sure what would happen if I tried to launch another instance now though. | 21:36 |
| n1md4 | I'll try for you if you like? | 21:36 |
| kbringard | in theory it grabs the image from glance | 21:36 |
| kbringard | or well, from the image store | 21:36 |
| kbringard | and plops it in _base | 21:36 |
| kbringard | eh, no worries, but I do appreciate it | 21:37 |
| n1md4 | is that object-store? | 21:37 |
| n1md4 | or nova-objectsore even. Why do images not travel well, with a vanilla openstack install? | 21:38 |
| n1md4 | ..across multiple nodes. | 21:38 |
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| kbringard | I'm just going to rsync _base from the working node over and see if that resolves it | 21:46 |
| kbringard | thanks again n1md4 | 21:46 |
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| n1md4 | kbringard: no worries. I'm still learning myself, I'm finding the curve steep too. | 22:01 |
| kbringard | hmmm, yea, same error :-/ | 22:02 |
| kbringard | but it's only this one image | 22:02 |
| kbringard | wtf | 22:02 |
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| n1md4 | tried rsyncing from where the first image was published? | 22:04 |
| n1md4 | Oh, you're using different images? | 22:04 |
| kbringard | well | 22:04 |
| kbringard | so, I have a bunch of images | 22:04 |
| kbringard | and they all work | 22:04 |
| kbringard | except this one image... this one image works on the compute node that's on the same physical host as my glance api/registry | 22:05 |
| kbringard | but not on any other compute nodes | 22:05 |
| n1md4 | Hmm | 22:05 |
| kbringard | all other images so far work on all the other compute nodes | 22:05 |
| kbringard | so, I deleted everything in _base on one of the compute nodes where it's failing | 22:05 |
| kbringard | and then rsync'd _base from the compute node where it works | 22:05 |
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| kbringard | but I'm still getting the same error | 22:06 |
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| kbringard | running the same compute code on all the machines | 22:06 |
| kbringard | it's very bizarre | 22:06 |
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| kbringard | same version of qemu | 22:06 |
| kbringard | same version of qemu-nbd | 22:06 |
| kbringard | I would just say the image is messed up, except that it works perfectly fine on that one compute node | 22:06 |
| kbringard | it's a head scratcher to be sure | 22:07 |
| NovSlave | I ve got something really odd here if someone could help ! my nova instances status is always NETWORKING ! T_T | 22:07 |
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| n1md4 | kbringard: Changing the subject, have you tried working with multiple users and projects? | 22:08 |
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| kbringard | I have | 22:09 |
| n1md4 | NovSlave: Assuming you're running a single controller/node, check /var/log/nova/nova-compute. | 22:09 |
| n1md4 | hmm I keep getting wrapped up in credential problems. | 22:10 |
| NovSlave | thats another odd thing the log file is EMPTY :x | 22:11 |
| kbringard | we're using some custom single signon code, that uses our company SSO to auth | 22:11 |
| kbringard | and if there is no user it creates creds for them | 22:11 |
| kbringard | and roles | 22:11 |
| kbringard | but in truth I don' | 22:11 |
| kbringard | I have not delved into that code much | 22:11 |
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| n1md4 | NovSlave: Sounds like you have something pretty major going wrong here. Are you following a guide? | 22:12 |
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| NovSlave | the main tutorial yeah , in my first installation everythig went fine , the day after i couldn t ping or ssh my instances so assuming it was a networking issue ,i changed the nova networking manager (i tried both flatdhcp and flanetwork after using the default Vlan mode) | 22:14 |
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| NovSlave | than i tried different images | 22:15 |
| NovSlave | the status became NETWORKING | 22:15 |
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| kbringard | NovSlave: what does your nova-network.log say? | 22:15 |
| n1md4 | NovSlave: Do you have anything in /var/log/nova/ ? | 22:16 |
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| Xbss | but i might tell you what my nova-network.log says | 22:17 |
| Xbss | if i only get access to the machine right now | 22:17 |
| Xbss | i ll try saving all my logs tomorrow morning | 22:17 |
| kbringard | I need to he head out, thanks for the attention n1md4 | 22:18 |
| kbringard | good luck NovSlave | 22:18 |
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| Xbss | thx i already installed Eucalyptus and openNebula but damn openstack-nova is killing me xD | 22:19 |
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