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| vishy | yup | 00:15 |
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| vishy | adam_g: ^^ in fact it always did | 00:16 |
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| adam_g | vishy: is that handled by nova-network or nova-compute? | 00:25 |
| adam_g | (or both) | 00:26 |
| vishy | nova-network | 00:27 |
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| HugoKuo_ | I'm facing a weired problem .... | 02:49 |
| HugoKuo_ | I hold a isolated host for Glance + nova-objectstore | 02:49 |
| HugoKuo_ | It works fine with TTY image .... | 02:49 |
| HugoKuo_ | But the problem is on normal UEC image.... | 02:50 |
| HugoKuo_ | image status stay on uploading .... | 02:50 |
| HugoKuo_ | And 5 mins later , it's failed_upload ...... | 02:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #801412 in nova "poor handling of download failure from glance in nova-compute" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801412 | 03:11 |
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| Funnnny | is glance just a management interface or it's included a storage solution, or I have to use Object store | 03:27 |
| Funnnny | is there any research or document on Openstack object store in term of performance, if I use it for local VM image store | 03:29 |
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| Funnnny | and what's the different between openstack object store and other distributed storage system like glusterFS or moosefs | 03:36 |
| Funnnny | other than the way we get the file (FUSE for glusterfs or moosefs) | 03:36 |
| Funnnny | thanks if anyone answer, wating *patiently* | 03:37 |
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| HugoKuo_ | anyone around , | 05:08 |
| deshantm | HugoKuo_: yeah | 05:20 |
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| HugoKuo_ | do ya using glance ? | 05:31 |
| HugoKuo_ | could you tell me the version which is running in your nova | 05:31 |
| HugoKuo_ | I got a weired problem :< | 05:31 |
| HugoKuo_ | tty image could be add to glance | 05:32 |
| HugoKuo_ | but UEC image always failed | 05:32 |
| HugoKuo_ | no any error log :< | 05:32 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #801436 in glance "Can not upload UEC_image to Glance..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801436 | 06:07 |
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| Funnnny | hello ? | 06:57 |
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| vodanh86 | Hi | 07:27 |
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| vodanh86 | Is there anyone here? pls help me | 07:28 |
| ccooke | what's up? | 07:29 |
| vodanh86 | i have installed nova-volume in HostA, and then I can attach it to instance run in HostA | 07:29 |
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| vodanh86 | can i attach the volume to instance run in HostB | 07:30 |
| vodanh86 | ? | 07:30 |
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| ccooke | I believe so. Did you try? | 07:30 |
| ccooke | Unfortunately, I don't run nova-volume... | 07:31 |
| vodanh86 | I tried | 07:31 |
| vodanh86 | I run euca-attach-volume successful? | 07:31 |
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| vodanh86 | euca-attach-volume vol-00000003 -i i-00000080 -d /dev/sdc | 07:32 |
| vodanh86 | but when I ssh into i-00000080 | 07:32 |
| vodanh86 | i can't see /dev/sdc | 07:33 |
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| vodanh86 | i-00000080 is a instance run on HostB | 07:33 |
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| vodanh86 | Does Anyone Can Help me?! anyone | 07:35 |
| vodanh86 | do anyone have any experience with nova-volume? pls help me. | 07:39 |
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| dsockwell | vodanh86: it's very late at night for some people, you may have to wait for an answer. | 07:55 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: ping | 08:01 |
| Razique | xxtjaxx: hey :) | 08:01 |
| Razique | what's up guys ? | 08:01 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: Have you revived your work on the Squeeze images yet? | 08:02 |
| Razique | not yet mate ; I'm currently working on a huge migration to our systems to Openstack ^^ | 08:02 |
| Razique | I hope this week-end I could work on it :) | 08:02 |
| Razique | what about you ? | 08:02 |
| xxtjaxx | Razique: I got here in the morning and to my suprise 2.6.39 didn't like my machine :( But a reboot into the squeeze kernel fixed that :) | 08:04 |
| Razique | oh, you mean you actually managed to create a squeeze ami ? | 08:05 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: nah was talking about the host system. I'll be happy to try this though. You had a howto regarding that? | 08:07 |
| Razique | xxtjaxx: yup, this one http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/openstack-beginners-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04-image-management/ | 08:08 |
| Razique | I talk to Anne, she is in charge of the openstack doc; I had to validate to her this procedure | 08:08 |
| Razique | it'll be the one which will be integrated into the official openstack doc :) | 08:09 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: btw Need any Debian people for the migration? | 08:11 |
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| Razique | xxtjaxx: actually it's running fine; all the instances will be either Ubuntu or Debian ones | 08:14 |
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| Razique | i've another big issue that I've reported, i'm unable to attache more than one EBS volume | 08:14 |
| Razique | at my stage of the migration it ain't critical, but in few days, it'll | 08:15 |
| Razique | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/800591 | 08:15 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: I guess it should link to a paste there shouldn't it? | 08:18 |
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| Razique | xxtjaxx: I've added a comment ^^ | 08:19 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: it is not necessary to have glance working in order to get nova running right? | 08:44 |
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| Razique | xxtjaxx: yup | 08:46 |
| Razique | 08:46 | |
| Razique | you don't need glance if you don't want to | 08:46 |
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| po | Hi | 08:59 |
| po | I ve followed the scripted install for nova controller here : http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/scripted-ubuntu-installation.html | 08:59 |
| po | Then I launched an image using this tuto : http://wiki.openstack.org/GettingImages | 09:00 |
| po | But I wonder how it is working since I haven't installed any hypervisor ? | 09:00 |
| po | (I used -t cloud during scripted install to install only the controller) | 09:01 |
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| po | ok, it appears that the daemon nova-compute is running, as well as kvm | 09:06 |
| po | it is weird though, it was not intented to be a compute node | 09:06 |
| po | any explanations on this please ? | 09:07 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: Can you explain me this http://pastebin.com/qQYvHcv4 Synopsis: I want to run na instance all images are here in directories. It says it can't find them. | 09:24 |
| Razique | hhe | 09:26 |
| Razique | how did you put them here ? | 09:26 |
| xxtjaxx | ? untar? see images/ has that images.tgz file. | 09:28 |
| xxtjaxx | Thats where they came from. And they were from someplace in the vicinity of openstack but I can't recall at this point in time. | 09:29 |
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| Razique | I mean; what euca-describe-images returns ? | 09:31 |
| bonzay | po: -t cloud -> "A cloud controller will be configured to run all five Nova services | 09:31 |
| bonzay | (api, compute, network, objectstor, and scheduler), while a compute | 09:31 |
| bonzay | node will only run Nova's compute service." | 09:31 |
| xxtjaxx | Razique: nothing. | 09:33 |
| Razique | yup that's what I thought | 09:33 |
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| Razique | actually, the images registration has three steps 1- euca-bundle-image | 09:34 |
| Razique | 2- euca-upload-bundle 3- euca-register | 09:34 |
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| po | bonzay : ok, but : A cloud controller node runs the nova- services except for nova-compute, and a compute node runs nova-compute | 09:40 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: I have to bundle each and every image? Kernel Ramdisk And Machine seperately? | 09:41 |
| Razique | xxtjaxx: here is a quick how-to : $ euca-bundle-image -i $file --kernel true | 09:42 |
| bonzay | po: where did you get this from? I just pasted what is described in the script | 09:42 |
| Razique | $ euca-upload-bundle -b $bucket -m /tmp/$file.manifest.xml $euca-regsiter $output_of_euca_upload_bundle | 09:42 |
| bonzay | po: so the script defines "-t cloud" included nova-compute | 09:43 |
| bonzay | includes | 09:43 |
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| Razique | after that --ramdisk ; then the image; look at http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/openstack-beginners-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04-image-management/ | 09:43 |
| po | bonzay : it s from this page : http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/example-installation-architecture.html | 09:43 |
| po | (two nodes install) | 09:44 |
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| Eyk | this healthcheck feature in swift, does it realy check something or just reply "OK" ? | 09:47 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: http://pastebin.com/P4aWKM01 That is not supposed to happen... | 09:49 |
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| bonzay | po: this is a possible architecture, but if you use the script and install with "-t cloud" this will install all nova roles on that host (including compute) | 09:54 |
| po | right, thank you bonzay | 09:55 |
| bonzay | np | 09:56 |
| Razique | xxtjaxx: I think you missed a step | 09:56 |
| Razique | you do not put manually your images into that directory | 09:56 |
| Razique | remove everything from here, and read again the guide | 09:56 |
| Razique | you downlad a tar.gz image and use uec-publish-tarball | 09:57 |
| Razique | or bundle by yourself your image and use euca2ools for instance | 09:57 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: ah looks like it worked :D the instance is running now I uploaded all things manually | 10:05 |
| xxtjaxx | Razique: okay now its scheduling. | 10:07 |
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| ayambit | I want a simple system with which I cant take 2 or more physical servers, delpoy several dozen virtual machines for development and allow developers to manage their own machines. Is it a good idea to use openstack for this or openstack is meant for larger systems? | 10:32 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: My running instance is still in scheduling. I checked the logs. It tried connecting to my libvirt system. Can I just restart the scheduling or will it automaticaly retry connecting to libvirt? | 10:38 |
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| Vasichkin | Hi all. | 10:56 |
| Vasichkin | Can someone help me& | 10:56 |
| Vasichkin | ? | 10:56 |
| Vasichkin | I have torubles installing openstack diablo-1 on RHEL6.1 | 10:57 |
| Vasichkin | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1757/ | 10:57 |
| Vasichkin | nova-compute refuse to start instances.. | 10:58 |
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| ayambit | Is this channel still alive? | 11:08 |
| Daviey | no | 11:08 |
| Daviey | (yes it is) | 11:08 |
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| chetan_ | Hello !!! | 11:20 |
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| chetan_ | tools/with_venv.sh dashboard/manage.py syncdb | 11:20 |
| chetan_ | give the error : Installing custom SQL ... Installing indexes ... No fixtures found. | 11:20 |
| chetan_ | Am testing single node and trying to install openstack dashboard | 11:21 |
| chetan_ | used stakops OS iso everything working fine , just openstackdashboard . | 11:22 |
| chetan_ | changed db to mysql , still same error . | 11:23 |
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| Lilamo | Hi i have configured dual node setup but unable to connect to guest operating systems | 11:54 |
| Lilamo | anybody can help me ? | 11:54 |
| Razique | xxtjaxx: check nova-compute.log and $nova-manage service list | 12:02 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique http://pastebin.com/tRiBJaCr | 12:05 |
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| Razique | erf... looks like the installation ain't that good | 12:06 |
| xxtjaxx | Razique: http://pastebin.com/DjghrmSj I guess this is what I was looking for | 12:06 |
| Razique | yup | 12:07 |
| Razique | did you followed a particulard guide for your setup ? | 12:07 |
| xxtjaxx | Nope. I guessed it was libvirtd so I enabled listening though that still didnt make it work or it justs didn't retried | 12:08 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: can I savely restart nova-compute? Without it having consistency issues? | 12:09 |
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| Razique | since running instances have their state saved in databases; you can restart everything safely :) | 12:11 |
| Razique | either the whole server, or cd /etc/init.d/ && for $for i in $(ls nova-*); do $i restart; done | 12:12 |
| CatKiller | Hi there, I have a quick questions about Openstack API's metadata functionality | 12:13 |
| CatKiller | I read here that this was wanted: | 12:14 |
| CatKiller | http://wiki.openstack.org/RequestCapabilities | 12:14 |
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| CatKiller | I was wondering if this was going to be implemented or was already implemented? | 12:14 |
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| Razique | Why can't instances of the same SG ping themselves ? | 12:26 |
| ziyadb | can I save and restore VM snapshots with glance? | 12:26 |
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| ayambit | How come this channel is soooo dead? | 12:40 |
| bonzay | ayambit: depends on your timezone... | 12:40 |
| ccooke | ayambit: ... you've accidentally /ignored everyone? :-) | 12:40 |
| ccooke | ayambit: (what bonzay said) | 12:41 |
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| ayambit | Anyway, I'll re-ask or something... I want a simple system with which I cant take 2 or more physical servers, delpoy several dozen virtual machines for development and allow developers to manage their own machines. Is it a good idea to use openstack for this or openstack is meant for larger systems? | 12:42 |
| ccooke | ayambit: Openstack will work for that sort of environment | 12:42 |
| ziyadb | I don't see why you would need openstack for such a small deployment. | 12:42 |
| ccooke | I'm not sure about developer-centric management, but the openstack dashboard might do what you need | 12:42 |
| ayambit | ccooke: I need exactly this from the virtual machines management system: allow developers to power on, power off, reset the machine and gain access to virtual machine console (via vnc or whatever). | 12:44 |
| ccooke | ayambit: I believe that can be done with the openstack dashboard (certainly I've had all that working here) | 12:44 |
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| ayambit | ccooke: If I'll get say 2 physical servers and iSCSI will I be able to do migration (offline and live) from the dashboard? Not that I need this right now, but maybe I will later. | 12:46 |
| ccooke | ayambit: pass. I'd suggest asking during US daytime for a better response; I can only help with things I've seen working | 12:47 |
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| ayambit | I know openstack can do it but I couldn't find dashboard description. | 12:47 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: okay it helps to set /var/run/libvirt/ read/writable... | 12:55 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: doesn't yet show anything new though but I guess since no error occured I should wait and see what happens. | 12:56 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: No errors anymore but scheduling none the less. WHy? | 13:13 |
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| chetan_ | Hello ! | 13:34 |
| chetan_ | when i run tools/with_venv.sh dashboard/manage.py syncdb : it gives error give the error : Installing custom SQL ... Installing indexes ... No fixtures found. | 13:35 |
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| xxtjaxx | If an instance is hanging in scheduling state whats wrong? | 13:58 |
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| notmyname | Eyk^off: the healthcheck does simply return with "OK", but that does tell you enough to know that the server is up and running. I think we'll be adding some additional functionality in the next release or two, but that's it for now | 14:06 |
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| Razique | xxtjaxx: what nova-manage-service list shows now ? | 15:00 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: All smilies. | 15:05 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: Much more fun: http://pastebin.com/AJ4BSPWp | 15:07 |
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| xxtjaxx | Razique: How much time do you have? | 15:11 |
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| Funnnny | an old question I asked but still wanna an answer | 15:27 |
| Funnnny | <Funnnny> is glance just a management interface or it's included a storage solution, or I have to use Object store | 15:27 |
| Funnnny | <Funnnny> is there any research or document on Openstack object store in term of performance, if I use it for local VM image store | 15:27 |
| Funnnny | <Funnnny> and what's the different between openstack object store and other distributed storage system like glusterFS or moosefs | 15:27 |
| Funnnny | <Funnnny> other than the way we get the file (FUSE for glusterfs or moosefs) | 15:27 |
| kbringard | glance is it's own thing | 15:27 |
| Funnnny | thanks if anyone answer, wating *patiently* :P | 15:28 |
| kbringard | well, it's kind of both | 15:28 |
| kbringard | it's an interface that supports a few different storage backends | 15:28 |
| kbringard | but if you just use file backend, then it writes the stuff out to local disk, and requires nothing more than itself | 15:28 |
| heckj | member:identifier:funnnny: is uses storage, but it's an interface to provide storage and metadata about VM images | 15:28 |
| kbringard | yea, what heckj said | 15:28 |
| heckj | (well, that didn't work) | 15:28 |
| Funnnny | so I can use swift as storage backend for glance | 15:29 |
| kbringard | yep | 15:29 |
| Funnnny | I wonder about its performance compared to something like glusterfs or lustre | 15:30 |
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| kbringard | if you check out the glance-registry.conf that comes with glance it's got some sample stuff in there | 15:30 |
| kbringard | that I don't know | 15:30 |
| heckj | Funnnny: Swift (the object store) is equivalent to Amazon's S3 - it's not a "high performance" storage engine (like cassandra or voldemort), or replicated filesystem (like Gluster) | 15:30 |
| creiht | Funnnny: object storage in general is a different beast than a distributed filesystem in general | 15:30 |
| heckj | Funnnny: You can absolutely use Swift as a storage back end to Glance - that was the original purpose of glance - to let the compute nodes load VM images from the storage engine | 15:31 |
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| heckj | Funnnny: what performance are you specifically worried about? How long it takes to load up/provision a VM? Or time to spin out data requesting it from the S3-like buckets in Swift? Both are actually quite good | 15:32 |
| Funnnny | it's a little more complicated now :P | 15:32 |
| Funnnny | I wonder about the time to provision a new VM | 15:32 |
| kbringard | it was always a little more complicated ;-) | 15:32 |
| Funnnny | and the I/O performance in the instance itself | 15:32 |
| creiht | Funnnny: that is probably going to be limited mostly by your network | 15:33 |
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| kbringard | Funnnny: using glance with file storage I spun up an image that was 15GB in < 1 minute | 15:33 |
| kbringard | nova also caches the image on the local compute nodes | 15:33 |
| heckj | Funnnny: It's no worse than anything else spinning the bits directly off disk. Swift has very good read times, especially as it's spun across a bunch of spindles in a typical configuration. | 15:33 |
| kbringard | so subsequent launches will be faster | 15:33 |
| kbringard | but I agree, I think network is going to be your bottleneck | 15:34 |
| kbringard | based on nothing more than a gut feeling :-p | 15:34 |
| heckj | Funnnny: I suspect what you really want to know about is when some of the compute hypervisors will have copy-on-write capabilities to spin up VM's in seconds | 15:34 |
| Funnnny | moosefs has ability to do it, mfsmakesnapshot I think | 15:35 |
| ccooke | heckj: xenserver does that already. Don't think openstack can use that yet, though | 15:35 |
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| heckj | Funnnny: my point is that it's a function of the hypervisor, not what's tossing up the bits from a disk spindle | 15:35 |
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| heckj | ccooke: I've heard - I'm looking forward to seeing it in action. I'm betting the Xen guys are getting that ready to push out the door very shortly. | 15:36 |
| heckj | (betting, but don't know) | 15:36 |
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| heckj | Funnnny: creiht will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong, but for the general S3 total read performance, when a bottleneck happens in that system it's almost always at the network layer. It has excellent throughput because it can grab and spin chunks of data off multiple disks (storage nodes) in the cluster. | 15:39 |
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| kbringard | it's like a big network raid 10 | 15:40 |
| kbringard | hehe | 15:40 |
| Funnnny | I'm thinking about using Infiniband, not sure if it's always the network layer | 15:40 |
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| Funnnny | and another point is swift support Infiniband or not | 15:41 |
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| creiht | Funnnny: We haven't done any testing/experimentation with it | 15:42 |
| Funnnny | is there any future plan ? | 15:42 |
| creiht | if it is ip addressable, then it should work | 15:42 |
| creiht | I'm not real familiar with infiniband | 15:42 |
| creiht | Funnnny: no current plans | 15:43 |
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| heckj | Funnnny: The bottleneck will be in what happens at the choke points in the network - typically the aggregator switch or top-of-rack switch if you're really cranking data around | 15:43 |
| heckj | Funnnny: In a large installation of swift, that's the key element to watch for - network throughput where the networking is generally oversubscribed from the ports aggregating into it | 15:44 |
| Funnnny | i 'm clear now | 15:46 |
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| Funnnny | so we can use nova, setup glance to manage VM image, and then swift to store it | 15:47 |
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| heckj | Funnnny: Yep. Although most folks are using swift to do way more than store VM's | 15:47 |
| Funnnny | hoping that we will have some real world study, I'm pretty new to this | 15:47 |
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| creiht | Funnnny: If all you are doing is storing a handful of VMs, swift may be a bit overkill | 15:48 |
| creiht | VM images | 15:48 |
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| heckj | Funnnny: it's just a convenient system to stash VMs into (being big storage and all). Glance also supports pulling VM's from a filesystem, Amazon's S3, and over HTTP | 15:48 |
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| Funnnny | thanks, I'm just doing research and a proof-of-concept before do something real | 15:50 |
| Funnnny | have some hard time consider opennebula and openstack, both have some different concept around it | 15:50 |
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| Funnnny | the last thing I care about, is the "project" concept in openstack | 15:58 |
| Funnnny | I wanna do something like a virtual datacenter management | 15:59 |
| Funnnny | and the project things is...I don't know how to say, doesn't fit | 15:59 |
| kbringard | you don't have to use it | 15:59 |
| kbringard | projects are only applicable to the VLAN network mode | 15:59 |
| kbringard | Flat and FlatDHCP don't use projects | 15:59 |
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| Razique | xxtjaxx: not much | 16:03 |
| Razique | i'll try to be back tonight ; will you be there ? | 16:03 |
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| CapnCapacitor | I'm trying to follow the instructions for setting up OpenStack using the SingleNodeVagrantChef instructions, however I'm running into a number of issues when it tries to install the Dashboard. I see that the dashboard has been moved recently ad was wondering if there was a patch for the cookbooks | 16:28 |
| heckj | CapnCapacitor: not yet - it's just shifted, and underwent some heavy, messy merges. | 16:32 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #801652 in nova "FLAGS.allow_admin_api should be turned into a decorator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801652 | 16:51 |
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| bpaluch | has anyone had problems with key servers downloading gpg? | 16:59 |
| bpaluch | on instances | 16:59 |
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| bpaluch | I did euca-authorize -P tcp -p 11371 default | 16:59 |
| bpaluch | is there anyone to just auth all ports? | 16:59 |
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| kbringard | bpaluch: you can do port ranges | 17:27 |
| kbringard | so you could just do | 17:27 |
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| kbringard | euca-authorize -P tcp -p 1 65535 default | 17:27 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | Hello all - anyone awake? | 17:57 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | Warmest greetings | 17:59 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Anyone awake? | 17:59 |
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| Funnnny_ | hey hello | 18:02 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | hi Funnnny_ | 18:09 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I have an install question for everyone: | 18:09 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | Would it be simpler/better to follow the instructions here: http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/openstack-beginners-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04-installation-and-configuration/ | 18:10 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | for installing openstack, or better to do the nova.sh methid? | 18:10 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | method even | 18:10 |
| Fu4ny | MarkusWPHRorg: I just did a clean install to test Openstack functionality | 18:11 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | The how did you do your install? | 18:11 |
| Fu4ny | I found that the scripted method is very straight and easy | 18:11 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | nova.sh? | 18:11 |
| Fu4ny | except one thing, you should do this on a clean install | 18:11 |
| Fu4ny | yup | 18:11 |
| Fu4ny | it's ver straight forward and automatic | 18:12 |
| Fu4ny | other while, you can follow the link above | 18:12 |
| Fu4ny | it like manual vs automation | 18:12 |
| Fu4ny | both has its own advantages | 18:12 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | so what was it I should do on a clean install? | 18:13 |
| Fu4ny | yeah you should | 18:13 |
| Fu4ny | whatever method you follow, you should do on a clean OS install | 18:14 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | ok. I have a clean ubuntu 11.04 install | 18:14 |
| Fu4ny | that will prevent some bad things | 18:14 |
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| ziyadb | is cactus even remotely mature for a production deployment yet? just asking out of curiosity, since diablo will be out before we start the pilot deployment. | 18:16 |
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| Fu4ny | no ideal, I'm doing a research for a production too | 18:17 |
| Fu4ny | ziyadb: it would be good if we have contact and asking about the thing we doing right now :) | 18:17 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Does anyone have nova network up and runnin and able to successfully associate a public ip with a private one? | 18:19 |
| ziyadb | Fu4ny you mean yourself and I? | 18:19 |
| Fu4ny | ziyadb: yeah ofcourse :) | 18:20 |
| ziyadb | ah, sure, np. pm me skype or gtalk or whatever IDs you have. | 18:20 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I'm in the same boat btw | 18:20 |
| ziyadb | you should follow suit then :) | 18:21 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | ok | 18:22 |
| Fu4ny | I did setup a nova network, just private IP, but I think config a public with a interfaces is not much different | 18:23 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I've done that too, but when I tried to assiciate public IPs so I could hit my vm instances from outside, I couldn't get it working | 18:24 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | I WAS using an older version of nova I think | 18:24 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | so I'm trying it again | 18:25 |
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| ziyadb | MarkusWPHRorg yeah, that's the job of the nova-network daemon, make sure it's configured correctly this time around :) | 18:26 |
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| _vinay | Hi | 18:45 |
| _vinay | I am setting up swift on single node... following instructions here http://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html | 18:46 |
| _vinay | doing a ps -ef | grep swift shows up 2 proxy servers and 8 each of container, account and object servers | 18:47 |
| _vinay | does that sound right? The development_saio says it emulates a 4-node cluster .. so I am a bit thrown off | 18:48 |
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| _vinay | +notmyname are you here? | 18:48 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #801703 in glance "No logging is configured for unit tests" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/801703 | 18:52 |
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| creiht | _vinay: when the process starts (even if you have just one worker it forks) so you have the original process and then the forked one | 18:57 |
| creiht | so 4*2=8 | 18:57 |
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| _vinay | oh ok.. so thats good then.. thanks +creiht | 19:00 |
| _vinay | somehow I am not able to upload an image to swift via glance | 19:00 |
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| _vinay | I get a 400 Bad Request | 19:00 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Hey guys, I'm getting this error when I run nova.sh install: | 19:01 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Cloning into /opt/openstack/openstackx... github.com[0: 207.97.227.239]: errno=Connection timed out | 19:01 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I can ping that IP ok.... | 19:01 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | This is what nova.sh is trying to do: git clone git://github.com/cloudbuilders/openstackx.git /opt/openstack/openstackx -b trunk_safe | 19:06 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Any ideas on a fix/workaround? | 19:07 |
| ziyadb | do it manually? | 19:07 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | how? | 19:07 |
| ziyadb | enter " git clone git://github.com/cloudbuilders/openstackx.git /opt/openstack/openstackx -b trunk_safe" on the terminal. | 19:07 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Oh yeah ok | 19:08 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Same reult | 19:08 |
| mattray | kbringard: fyi I packaged up your script here: https://github.com/mattray/openstack-cookbooks/tree/cactus/cookbooks/glance/files/default | 19:08 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | result | 19:08 |
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| ziyadb | that's odd. IP reachability ok? can you git other stuff? | 19:09 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | yes | 19:13 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | git clone https://github.com/openstack/nova.git testgitdir | 19:14 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | that worked just fine | 19:14 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | God this is frustrating | 19:15 |
| ziyadb | haha wait it out | 19:17 |
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| kbringard | mattray: cool | 19:19 |
| kbringard | glad they're useful :-) | 19:19 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | ziyadb: no - it errored out already | 19:21 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I'm switchng to that other install script | 19:21 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I should probably do a fresh OS install to be sure, but I'm going to try it as-is anyway | 19:22 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | The nova-CC-install script is telling me "Feel free to get some coffee, you have earned it!" | 19:23 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | lol / golf clap | 19:23 |
| * MarkusWPHRorg is taking the advice of the nova CC install script | 19:24 | |
| kbringard | good call | 19:24 |
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| _vinay | is there a good document to follow for glance/swift installation? | 19:43 |
| _vinay | I have swift and glance both installed.. | 19:43 |
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| _vinay | I also configured glance to talk to swift (glance-api.conf) | 19:43 |
| _vinay | but I am getting a Bad Request when I try adding an image | 19:43 |
| _vinay | http://glance.openstack.org/glance.html | 19:44 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | ok, my install horked at "Generating Nova Credentials" | 19:55 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Turns out | 19:55 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | I already had a /root/creds directory with a novarc file | 19:55 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | so it was stuck at the overwrite y/n/whatever prompt | 19:57 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | ERROR nova.api [novademo] Unexpected error raised: Unable to connect to server. Got error: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED | 20:09 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | got that when running euca-describe-images | 20:09 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | in the nova-api log | 20:09 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | this is a fresh install from script | 20:09 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | what am I doing wrong / forgetting? | 20:10 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | This is after: uec-publish-tarball /opt/openstack/images/ubuntu1010-UEC-localuser-image.tar.gz lamp1 x86_64 Unable to run euca--describe-images. Is environment for euca- set up? | 20:11 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | Ok I think I got it | 20:13 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | So the install script asks you for DNS servers and defualts to whatever is in /etc/resolv.conf | 20:13 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | In my case, there were other DNS servers (8.8.4.4 etc) on other lines | 20:14 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Somehow these got incorporated into the defualt and ended up on /etc/network/default right after the dns-nameserver statement, but each on their own seperate line | 20:15 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | the network init script didn't like this, so my bridge interface never got configured | 20:15 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | newbie question: Can someone tell me what the purpose is of the bridge interface in openstack/nova? | 20:18 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Why not just a regular or aliased interface? | 20:19 |
| bpaluch | anyone have issues with connecting to key servers? I authorized the port needed for keyserver still doesn't work. | 20:21 |
| bpaluch | not sure if I'm missing something or not | 20:21 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | sorry bpaluch - never done anything with a keyserver | 20:24 |
| bpaluch | I'm just trying to grab the key from it so I can install from 3rd party source | 20:25 |
| bpaluch | ah maybe I'll just take a network trace next week | 20:25 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | like a ppa? | 20:25 |
| bpaluch | yeah but its still one that goes into sources file | 20:26 |
| bpaluch | mongodb | 20:26 |
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| bpaluch | sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 7F0CEB10 | 20:26 |
| bpaluch | oh wait, I think i know whats going on | 20:27 |
| bpaluch | my genius IT group is blocking the outbound port connection from my cloud vnet and not the vnet I use at my desk | 20:27 |
| bpaluch | yep its def time to go home that means. | 20:28 |
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| ziyadb | how is a default network mode of *vlan* "scalable"? | 21:23 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | ziyadb: sorry - no idea | 21:36 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | different topic | 21:37 |
| ziyadb | let me rephrase, how is a vlan network mode massively scalable? it's not. | 21:37 |
| sebastian | Hi all, I was wondering if someone could help me out: I'm setting up for the first time and following the tutorial at http://wiki.openstack.org/RunningNova -- When I get to the uec-publish-tarball command, I get: "Unable to run euca--describe-images. Is environment for euca- set up?". I looked around the logs in /var/log/nova and couldn't find anything that looked pertinent. Any tips? | 21:37 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | If I instll the milestone ppa with add-apt-repository, how do I know it will install nova from there rather than the regular ubuntu repository? | 21:38 |
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| bonzay | sebastian: euca--describe-images -> two dashes? | 21:38 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | sebastian: | 21:38 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | sebastian: I have EXACTLY the same problem | 21:38 |
| sebastian | bonzay: my command was: uec-publish-tarball ttylinux-uec-amd64-12.1_2.6.35-22_1.tar.gz mybucket | 21:38 |
| sebastian | the error message appears to have a typo :) | 21:39 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | sebastian: what happens if you run "euca-describe-images" manually? | 21:39 |
| sebastian | markus: UnknownError: An unknown error has occurred. Please try your request again. | 21:39 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | ya it does, but it's trying to run the correct command when it executes | 21:39 |
| bonzay | is glance running? | 21:40 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | ok, open a different shell window, and do a "tail -f /var/log/nova/nova-api.log" | 21:40 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | and then run the command again and see if you get an error there | 21:40 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | bonzay: that's a good question, how can we find out? | 21:40 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | grep for glance in a ps -ef? | 21:41 |
| sebastian | markus: the error is Unexpected error raised: get_images_detailed() got an unexpected keyword argument 'filters' | 21:41 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | hmmmm | 21:41 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | why don't you hit enter a fwe times on the tail (ing) window, and then run the command again | 21:42 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | you should get a buttload of output in there | 21:42 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I did anyway | 21:42 |
| kbringard | metric, or the Queen's? | 21:42 |
| sebastian | markus: yeah I didn't paste it all, but that's the root error | 21:43 |
| sebastian | I will pastebin it | 21:43 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | no that's ok | 21:43 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | I got errors saying it couldn't open a connection for authentication | 21:43 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | you seeing anything like that? | 21:43 |
| sebastian | markus: http://pastebin.com/1sky8kwt | 21:43 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Wow, ok. That's different than what I'm seeing, but same result | 21:45 |
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| sebastian | bonzay: I have no process named glance running | 21:45 |
| sebastian | possibly relevant bug in my case is https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/791922 | 21:46 |
| bonzay | sebastian: and they are also referring to glance :) | 21:46 |
| sebastian | yeah. I didn't even have python-glance installed... it wasn't part of the instructions. going to try installing. | 21:47 |
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| bonzay | sebastian: i was just asking because i had a similar problem when the glance services weren't running | 21:47 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Shit, maybe that was the problem I was having too | 21:47 |
| bonzay | sebastian: it _may_ help in your situation but you'll never know... | 21:48 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | sebastian: what method did you use to install? | 21:48 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I'm using this: https://github.com/dubsquared/OpenStack-NOVA-Installer-Script/raw/master/nova-CC-install-v1.1.sh | 21:48 |
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| sebastian | markus: I followed the ubuntu repository/package instructions | 21:48 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | do you have a link? | 21:49 |
| sebastian | markus: http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/DevPkgInstall | 21:49 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | what version of ubuntu? | 21:49 |
| sebastian | I followed those instructions then went on to follow the link at the bottom to http://wiki.openstack.org/RunningNova | 21:49 |
| sebastian | 11.04 64 bit | 21:49 |
| Davor` | Is it normal that "nova-manage service list" lists only network, compute, and scheduler, even though "ps" shows api and objectstore are also running? | 21:50 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | ok cool - me too | 21:50 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Davor`: not sure | 21:50 |
| kbringard | Davor`: yes | 21:50 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | sebastian: please let us know if installing glance fixes you | 21:51 |
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| bonzay | MarkusWPHRorg: i think sebastian has been away for a sec :) | 21:52 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | sebastian: please let us know if installing glance fixes you | 21:52 |
| sebastian | yeah xchat crashed on me! sorry. | 21:52 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | bonzay: yep just noticed that | 21:52 |
| Davor` | kbringard: Thanks. | 21:52 |
| sebastian | it does not and I think this is why: https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/162526 | 21:52 |
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| sebastian | my new strategy is to uninstall all the packages and check out the trunk from github | 21:52 |
| bonzay | sebastian: where did you install the packages from? apt repo? | 21:53 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Wow, please let us know if that helps | 21:54 |
| sebastian | bonzay: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nova-core/trunk | 21:54 |
| sebastian | now that I read the page again I should've used /release instead of /trunk | 21:54 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | did you add nova-core/milestone before? | 21:54 |
| sebastian | markus: no. | 21:54 |
| sebastian | this was my first attempt ever. | 21:55 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | you might try milesstone instead | 21:55 |
| sebastian | is there a way to start over... if I just switch it and update will that replace everything? | 21:55 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I followed the release instructions, but never could get nova-network to actually associate a public ip with any of my instances | 21:55 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | Everything worked great except it was totally useless because nothing could be seen from the outside | 21:56 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | seen=connect to | 21:56 |
| kbringard | MarkusWPHRorg: I think we talked about this, but you have ip forwarding enabled on your network controller, yea? | 21:56 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | kbringard: I think I tried it both ways. At last attempt it was enabled | 21:57 |
| kbringard | ah, OK, cause it needs to be enabled | 21:57 |
| kbringard | and you checked that the IP comes up on the network controller (via ip addr show) | 21:59 |
| kbringard | and the IP tables SNAT and DNAT rules are there | 21:59 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | aha | 22:00 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | that's my question | 22:00 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | is nova-network supposed to bring the ip online, or does it need to already be attached to an aliased interface or something? | 22:00 |
| kbringard | nova-network will bring it online | 22:00 |
| kbringard | it'll attach it to whatever interface you have set as --public_interface in your nova.conf | 22:01 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | how does it do that? And how come it doesn't show up when you run ifconfig, but it does show up with ip addr show? | 22:01 |
| kbringard | has to do with the way ip addr works, I'm not certain enough of the internal workings to say why | 22:02 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | ok cool. Thing is, even when it was there with ip addr show, I couldn't ping it | 22:02 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | it's like it didn't exist | 22:03 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | 'cept in ip addr's little world | 22:03 |
| kbringard | and the interface it was attached to routes to the world? | 22:03 |
| kbringard | are there other IP addresses on that eth device? | 22:03 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | yes | 22:04 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | and yes again | 22:04 |
| kbringard | and you can ping those? | 22:04 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | yes, and ssh to them (it) | 22:04 |
| kbringard | hmmm, maybe try flushing the IPtables on the network controller (iptables -F) and pinging the address again | 22:04 |
| kbringard | I think there is a prerouting rule that is probably hijacking it | 22:05 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | ahh ok. next time I'll try that | 22:05 |
| kbringard | after your test you just service nova-network restart | 22:05 |
| kbringard | to rebuild the chains | 22:05 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | More pressing question: | 22:05 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I now have a brand spankin' new, ubuntu 11.04 box up | 22:05 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | could you point me toward the doc you think has the bes chance of getting me up and completely functional? | 22:06 |
| kbringard | hmmm | 22:06 |
| sebastian | markus: seconded :) | 22:06 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | I'm totally starting from scratch here | 22:06 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | and there's like 4-5 docs I know of on how to install | 22:06 |
| kbringard | well, this is from awhile ago | 22:06 |
| kbringard | http://fnords.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/bleeding-edge-openstack-nova-on-maverick/ | 22:06 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | kbringard: I trust your judgement | 22:07 |
| kbringard | and it's geared toward maverick (10.10) | 22:07 |
| kbringard | but, every install I've done has been based on the info here | 22:07 |
| sebastian | I would warn against using trunk because that's exactly what I did | 22:07 |
| kbringard | unfortunately it's not a "run these commands in this order and it'll work" | 22:07 |
| sebastian | I am going to try /release | 22:07 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | is nova-objectstore another name for glance? | 22:08 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | sebastian: ok, I will try /milestone | 22:08 |
| kbringard | no, objectstore is the old thing | 22:08 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | what's the package name for it now? | 22:08 |
| kbringard | I think it's still there for the uec-bundle stuff, but not much else | 22:08 |
| kbringard | I don't think you need objectstore | 22:08 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | ok, what about glance? How else would I store my images? | 22:09 |
| kbringard | I use glance with file store | 22:09 |
| kbringard | which is it's default | 22:09 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | so like "apt-get install glance" ? | 22:09 |
| kbringard | yep | 22:09 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | or nova-glance? | 22:09 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | ok | 22:09 |
| kbringard | glance | 22:09 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | so the doc you recommend says "sudo apt-get install nova-api nova-objectstore nova-compute nova-scheduler nova-network euca2ools unzip" | 22:10 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | so instead of nova-objectstore, I go with glance | 22:10 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | anything else missing from that list? | 22:10 |
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| heckj | MarkusWPHRorg, kbringard: nova-objectstore is deprecated and it's really functional in trunk or milestone setups right now | 22:25 |
| heckj | I'm using glance with my milestone distribution to do image loading/unloading and all that good stuff | 22:25 |
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| MarkusWPHRorg | heckj: ya that's what he was saying | 22:26 |
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| heckj | that said, I'm not getting uec-publish-tarball to work with my hacked up setup right now, but I haven't debugged it either | 22:26 |
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| vishy | heckj: you need nova-objectstore for uec-publish to work | 22:28 |
| heckj | vishy: thanks - that would explain it. | 22:28 |
| vishy | someone needs to do a hacked uec-publish that can shove stuff directly into glance | 22:28 |
| vishy | although you can do it pretty easily with ungzip / nova-manage image all_register | 22:29 |
| heckj | that's the route i took to upload the ttg.tgz mini image for testing | 22:29 |
| vishy | unfortunately that doesn't work well for clients... | 22:29 |
| vishy | so i guess for now clients have to upload through dashboard... | 22:29 |
| heckj | and I ran into "Oh, hey - it's not using /etc/network/interfaces" for it's networking and spent a while debugging why FlatNetworking wasn't working :-) | 22:29 |
| vishy | you're using FlatManager | 22:30 |
| * vishy is scared | 22:30 | |
| heckj | Yeah, me too - totally didn't do what I wanted to do, but I didn't clue in until I'd made it all work | 22:30 |
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| worstadmin | Simple question but it's not in the documentation - anyone have a guide on using XCP/Xen with openstack? | 22:30 |
| worstadmin | I have computer setup with libvirt type being xen however that's about as far as the docs Ive found go | 22:31 |
| heckj | vishy: FlatDHCP question for you if you have a second... | 22:31 |
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| vishy | worstadmin: http://wiki.openstack.org/XenServerDevelopment | 22:31 |
| vishy | unless you are doing xen through libvirt in which case... gl! | 22:32 |
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| vishy | heckj: shoot | 22:32 |
| heckj | If I have a multi-node setup - box A with scheduler, vncproxy, dashboard, and nova-network, and box B with nova-compute - both with a single eth0 set up as bridge br100. Do the nodes that spin up on Box B get Box A's address as a gateway from that private network to get out? | 22:33 |
| vishy | yup | 22:33 |
| vishy | and you have to put br100 in box A in promisc mode | 22:33 |
| vishy | don't ask me why | 22:34 |
| heckj | And that same box A (or whatever has nova-network) is the one that does any DNAT/SNAT if you set that up? | 22:34 |
| heckj | ooh - promisc mode - missed that earlier. | 22:34 |
| vishy | yup | 22:35 |
| vishy | heckj: it is only necessary if you are using the same device | 22:35 |
| MarkusWPHRorg | worstadmin: sorry, but if you find a good doc, please let us know | 22:35 |
| vishy | otherwise the route out doesn't work | 22:35 |
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| heckj | just spotted the Question with that detail in it - got it. | 22:36 |
| worstadmin | Im confused though with all the citrix support for xcp and openstack why isnt there a doc? | 22:36 |
| vishy | heckj: No one has been able to tell me why it is necessary. It works fine if the public nic and private nic are different | 22:36 |
| worstadmin | I mean I can't even find a starting point but I guess I'll learn with KVM and then migrate to xen as I understand more | 22:36 |
| vishy | worstadmin: any reason why you want to do xen/libvirt? | 22:37 |
| heckj | I was running into exactly that - single eth0 on the hosts I'm using. | 22:37 |
| worstadmin | vishy, I thought libvirt was the way openstack works with the various hypervisors | 22:37 |
| vishy | worstadmin: citrix is doing the dev on the xenserver driver, so It will be way more feature complete | 22:37 |
| worstadmin | Where does the driver they are working on fit in exactly? | 22:37 |
| vishy | worstadmin: actually it isn't. Libvirt/Qemu/Lxc/XenSource go through libvirt | 22:38 |
| vishy | (oh and UML) | 22:38 |
| vishy | the rest have their own drivers | 22:38 |
| worstadmin | I see | 22:38 |
| vishy | The guide in the wiki i pasted has instructions for setting it up using the xen driver | 22:39 |
| worstadmin | Do you know why people wouldnt ulitilize libvirt? | 22:39 |
| vishy | libvirt has a very limited feature set | 22:39 |
| vishy | it is pretty complete for kvm because redhat is leading dev | 22:39 |
| vishy | the other hypervisors are more limited | 22:39 |
| vishy | so to get the full feature set the authors of those hypervisors opted for talking to the hypervisor directly | 22:40 |
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| worstadmin | I see | 22:42 |
| worstadmin | Granted though they could have extended libvirt in the same manner | 22:42 |
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| vishy | yes, can't comment on their business decision to avoid that route | 23:00 |
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| Davor` | MarkusWPHRorg: how about this guide to OpenStack on Natty: http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/openstack-beginners-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04-installation-and-configuration/ | 23:14 |
| Davor` | who /Davor` | 23:15 |
| dsockwell | /whois Davor` | 23:16 |
| Davor` | dsockwell: I should just stick to "C-c C-w" :-) | 23:19 |
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