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rfz01 | Hi all, I've installed openstack, but after importing a uec image via uec-publish-tarball, the image remains in the queued status. I'm runing natty 11.04 with the universe openstak debs. | 01:46 |
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sadeghis | hi guys | 01:53 |
sadeghis | oops wrong nick for this server | 01:53 |
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herbster | there we go | 01:53 |
herbster | so, hi guys :P ...we are progressing quite nicely in our openstack deployment but have hit a hitch | 01:53 |
herbster | nova-api only seems to run on a single core | 01:54 |
herbster | our cloud controller box has 4 cores, we would like nova-api to run across all 4 cores | 01:54 |
herbster | (when the load is high enough to demand it) | 01:54 |
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herbster | any thoughts? | 01:55 |
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HugoKuo | morning | 02:18 |
herbster | hi hugo | 02:19 |
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HugoKuo | hello herbster | 02:23 |
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deepest | Hi U guys | 02:38 |
deepest | I want to ask U somethings | 02:38 |
deepest | I want to know about the size to store data of SWIFT | 02:38 |
deepest | by the way, I installed and configured SWIFT successful | 02:39 |
Gaurav | zxcv0987 | 02:39 |
Gaurav | zxcv0987 | 02:39 |
deepest | But I want to know what happend if I have some different storage node | 02:39 |
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deepest | maybe one storage node =100 GB, another one = 250 GB and last one = 500GB | 02:41 |
deepest | the maximum of transfer data will be equal 100GB or 500GB or no limit | 02:42 |
deepest | Do u have any ideas? or any suggestion about that or the document what I should refer? | 02:43 |
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Gaurav | Why does openstack use eucalyptus (euca-2ools)? | 02:46 |
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secbitchris | I keep hearing about this thing | 03:10 |
creiht | deepest: That is where the weight in the rings comes in to play | 03:13 |
creiht | each device in the ring has a weight, so for example, you could set the weight in the ring to be the number of GB per each device | 03:14 |
creiht | and it will put a porportional number of partitions on each device, so that they will fill up relatively evenly | 03:14 |
deepest | can U describe for me more details? if possible, please give me some examples | 03:16 |
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creiht | Say for example you have some drives that are 1T and some that are 2T in your nodes | 03:17 |
deepest | right | 03:18 |
creiht | you might decide to say 1T = a weight of 100 | 03:18 |
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creiht | thusly you would want to set your 2T drives = a weight of 200 | 03:18 |
creiht | so when you are builidng your ring, the 1T drive may look something like: | 03:19 |
creiht | swift-ring-builder object.builder add z1-127.0.0.1:6010/sdb1 1 | 03:19 |
creiht | erm | 03:19 |
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creiht | swift-ring-builder object.builder add z1-127.0.0.1:6010/sdb1 100 | 03:20 |
creiht | the 100 at the end is the weight | 03:20 |
creiht | if the next drive is a 2T drive then you would add it like: | 03:20 |
creiht | swift-ring-builder object.builder add z1-127.0.0.1:6010/sdc1 200 | 03:20 |
deepest | ok I understood | 03:20 |
deepest | but I have another question | 03:21 |
creiht | k | 03:21 |
deepest | what is the maximum size of data should I transfer Swift if I have 2 drives (first one= 1T, second one = 2T) | 03:22 |
creiht | of a single file? or total space swift is capable of using? | 03:23 |
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deepest | maximum size of data to received of total space Swift | 03:24 |
creiht | swift would use it all fairly equally, so swift would fill things up to the full 3T | 03:25 |
deepest | I mean Swift have total space = 3T, drives 1 = 1T, drives 2 = 2T and maybe drives 3 = 3T. Can I send 1.5T to Swift? | 03:26 |
creiht | that said, we recommend trying to not use more than 85% of the space | 03:26 |
creiht | to leave headroom for replication, failover, etc. | 03:26 |
deepest | ok | 03:26 |
creiht | and that is total available space | 03:27 |
creiht | you have to divide by 3 (since we store 3 replicas of everything) | 03:27 |
deepest | it mean I can send the data size more than minimum drives, right? | 03:27 |
deepest | dont care about the drives but care about the total space, right? | 03:28 |
creiht | ahh... yes | 03:28 |
deepest | ok I understood | 03:28 |
creiht | as long as you have them set up correctly in the ring with the right weights | 03:28 |
deepest | How can I define the correct weights? by 1T = 100, 2T =200 and Swift can understand? | 03:30 |
creiht | yes | 03:30 |
creiht | so for example, say you have 2 drives, one that is 1T, and one 2T with the above weights | 03:30 |
creiht | if you write 900 objects to the system, you would find 300 on the 1T drive, and 600 objects on the 2T drive | 03:32 |
creiht | this is oversimplified a bit, but should give you an idea | 03:32 |
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deepest | ok I write one more question what I still confusing. | 03:35 |
creiht | sure | 03:35 |
deepest | we consider about the new required | 03:36 |
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deepest | swift have 3 drives, 1st drives =100GB, 2sd drive= 1T, 3rd = 1T --> total 2.1T | 03:37 |
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deepest | if I send 700GB to Swift | 03:38 |
deepest | the first 100GB will fill to drive 1,2,3 | 03:38 |
creiht | not exactly | 03:39 |
creiht | it will fill at the same rate, the first drive will only get 10% of the files | 03:39 |
deepest | because we have at least 3 redundant copies, right | 03:39 |
creiht | oh I see | 03:39 |
creiht | if you *only* have 3 drives | 03:40 |
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creiht | then yes, you could only use 100GB in that case | 03:40 |
creiht | swift was written to use thousands of drives | 03:40 |
deepest | why the first drive just get 10%? | 03:41 |
deepest | the reason of reblance. | 03:41 |
deepest | ??? | 03:41 |
creiht | I was thinking that there would be more drives (as in a large production cluster) | 03:42 |
creiht | but in the corner case of having just 3 drives, it would cause a larger issue | 03:42 |
creiht | in that it would fill up just as fast as the other 2 | 03:42 |
creiht | in a larger system, if you have different sized drives, everything balances out pretty well | 03:43 |
creiht | swift isn't really designed well to work on just 3 drives | 03:44 |
deepest | ok I understood | 03:45 |
deepest | thanks you so much Creiht | 03:45 |
creiht | no problem | 03:45 |
creiht | now time to get some sleep :) | 03:46 |
deepest | and I can add more storage node to Swift system and just make the right weights | 03:46 |
deepest | ok | 03:46 |
creiht | yup | 03:46 |
deepest | sleep well | 03:46 |
deepest | have a nice dream | 03:46 |
creiht | ideally we recommend a minimum of 5 storage nodes, with several storage drives in each node | 03:47 |
creiht | each storage node being in a separate node | 03:47 |
creiht | you can then add storage by adding more drives to each node | 03:47 |
creiht | then either add another machine as a new zone | 03:47 |
creiht | or add 1 more machine to each zone | 03:47 |
creiht | etc. etc. | 03:47 |
creiht | each time updating the ring | 03:48 |
creiht | the replication will take care of making sure everything gets to where it is supposed to be | 03:48 |
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deepest | ok Thanks | 03:49 |
limu | hi,all ! Is there an open source software to access swift storage? BS or CS is ok. Thanks | 03:56 |
creiht | limu: there is a command line tool in swift, plus cyberduck is very popular | 03:56 |
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creiht | There are other tools as well if you have a specific use case you are looking for | 03:57 |
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creiht | and now I am really going to sleep :) | 03:58 |
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chetan_ | Openstack setup on wich OS recomended : ubuntu OR rhels ? | 07:04 |
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siwos | ubuntu | 07:14 |
siwos | definitely | 07:14 |
siwos | you've got an installation script for ubuntu | 07:15 |
siwos | for rhel/fedora you need to add third party repos | 07:15 |
siwos | my question: is nwfilter used by openstack right now (cactus) | 07:15 |
siwos | ? | 07:16 |
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chetan_ | <siwos> i used ubuntu and installed openstack trunk repo ubuntu . | 07:25 |
chetan_ | thanks lots | 07:25 |
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lotrpy | hello, I want deploy openstack on a sinle compute. the python deploy.py install stop at nova-volume, service nova-volume status returns stop/waiting, then, what should I do now? | 08:03 |
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siwos | nova-volume is not crucial for launching vm instances | 08:06 |
siwos | in the simplest case you should be running: nova-compute, nova-network, nova-scheduler, nova-api | 08:07 |
siwos | nova-volume is for attaching persistent block storage to your vm-s | 08:07 |
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lotrpy | siwos, thanks for the help, appreciate it and sorry for my broken English | 08:11 |
thickskin | hi all | 08:11 |
thickskin | is there someone who know about qcow2 image using in xen? | 08:12 |
lotrpy | after "python deploy.py install" interrupt and exit. "sudo nova-manage service list" return nova-compute nova-scheduler nova-network enabled. I'm interesing at test the nova part. so is there anyway to bypass nova-volume (or replace with a plain file)? | 08:14 |
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medhu | hello all | 08:58 |
medhu | any resource for "installing openstack on archlinux" | 08:59 |
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mattt | medhu: no, but let us know how you get on w/ that :) | 09:25 |
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teamrot | hej all. | 10:22 |
teamrot | i try to size a multinode installation, and ask me which network cards i have to choose for the | 10:22 |
teamrot | service network to connect the compute nodes with the network node, 1GBit cards or 10GBit. | 10:22 |
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teamrot | as i understand it, the service network are "only" used for transmitting the informations about the several nodes, and not for transfer virtual images, volumes and this kind of data. | 10:26 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824433 in nova "Libvirt/KVM snapshot only in RAW image format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824433 | 10:31 |
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kidrock | Hi, | 10:46 |
kidrock | I installed new openstack | 10:46 |
kidrock | diablo-3 milestone version | 10:46 |
kidrock | I created admin user and project by: nova-manage user admin thangdd8 | 10:47 |
kidrock | nova-manage project create cncloud thangdd8 | 10:47 |
kidrock | nova-manage network create private 10.0.1.0/24 1 256 br100 | 10:47 |
kidrock | nova-manage project zipfile cncloud thangdd8 creds/cncloud/nova.zip | 10:48 |
kidrock | cd creds/cncloud/ | 10:48 |
kidrock | unzip nova.zip | 10:48 |
kidrock | source novarc | 10:48 |
kidrock | after that | 10:48 |
kidrock | I run euca-describe-instances | 10:48 |
kidrock | following error occurred | 10:49 |
kidrock | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2148/ | 10:49 |
kidrock | anyone help. Thanks beforehand | 10:50 |
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soren | kidrock: Possibly time skew? | 11:07 |
soren | kidrock: Oh, on the same box. | 11:07 |
soren | nm, then. | 11:07 |
kidrock | i installed all nova service on one node | 11:11 |
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anp | Hi | 13:41 |
anp | I am trying to install Openstack Diablo2 on CentOS 6 | 13:41 |
anp | I ref the url:http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/RHEL6Notes-Diablo-2 | 13:42 |
anp | but yum is not able to get the Dependcies from Cactus repo | 13:42 |
anp | how can I do that | 13:42 |
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anp | please help me | 13:44 |
jtanner | anp, it depends on which deps are missing | 13:44 |
jtanner | you can probably get better/faster help in #rhel for troubleshooting yum issues | 13:44 |
anp | jtanner: I am doing this over a base installation | 13:45 |
anp | so I need all deps in : http://yum.griddynamics.net/yum/cactus/deps/ | 13:45 |
anp | how can I do that | 13:45 |
anp | it's not an yum issue I believe | 13:46 |
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anp | Diablo2 build needs the deps from Cactus | 13:46 |
anp | jtanner: do you think I should install Cactus first and then update to the Diablo? | 13:47 |
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gnu111 | I got a natty image up and running but can't ssh. I was able to get to the console from virt-viewer. as I can't ssh, I can't use my keys. I would liek to login to check what is going on. How can I login to the machine? | 14:08 |
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kbringard | can you ping it? | 14:16 |
kbringard | gnu111 ^^ | 14:16 |
gnu111 | no, i can't ping | 14:16 |
kbringard | so the problem is that it's not getting network | 14:16 |
kbringard | well, I should step back | 14:16 |
kbringard | did you euca-authorize ICMP and ssh? | 14:17 |
gnu111 | yes. | 14:17 |
kbringard | I would also try euca-get-console-output | 14:17 |
kbringard | that'll help see what's happening on the VM | 14:17 |
kbringard | my guess is that it's having trouble getting to the meta-data service | 14:17 |
gnu111 | ok | 14:17 |
kbringard | that takes awhile to time out and the booting doesn't finish until that happens | 14:18 |
kbringard | but, I really have no idea | 14:18 |
gnu111 | yup: 2011-08-11 14:04:38,145 - DataSourceEc2.py[WARNING]: waiting for metadata service at http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id | 14:18 |
kbringard | it would seem the problem is that you're not getting network, either because it couldn't take to the DHCP server, or because the bridge didn't attach right | 14:18 |
gnu111 | 146 - DataSourceEc2.py[WARNING]: 14:04:38 [ 1/30]: url error [[Errno 101] Network is unreachable] | 14:18 |
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kbringard | I'd check the network controller to make sure the interfaces and bridges are up and (if you're using vlan mode) tagged properly | 14:19 |
kbringard | I'd also check the compute node for the same | 14:19 |
gnu111 | ok. yes, i am using vlan mode. | 14:19 |
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worstadmin | Make sure youre trunking :) | 14:19 |
kbringard | this ^^ | 14:19 |
kbringard | or more broadly, make sure your physical network can handle vlan | 14:20 |
kbringard | it may be looking at the packets and going "wtf?! DROP" | 14:20 |
kbringard | anyway, I've got to reboot and have some stuff to do, so I'll bbl | 14:21 |
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shoof | What would be the best way to position zones in swift to have multi data center data redundancy (2 data centers)? Based on the 3 replicas, I would assume that 4 total zones (2 in each data center) would guarantee that all data is written to both data centers and no data is lost if an entire data center is lost | 15:25 |
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creiht | shoof: While you could do that, it may not be optimal | 15:30 |
btorch | shoof: I hope that never really happens :) to you ... but the first thing I would consider is to make sure that the swift-zones that are located in a single DC are in unique DC phases | 15:30 |
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creiht | shoof: an alternate approach would be to have a separate cluster in each DC, and use the recently added container sync for data that absolutely has to be replicated | 15:32 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #824601 in nova "OSAPI v1.1 PUT /servers/<id> response incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824601 | 15:32 |
btorch | shoof: yeah like creiht said not really optimal ... creiht perhaps container sync when it gets released could be an option for having the data at another region | 15:32 |
* btorch swear is not copying what you just mentioned :) | 15:33 | |
creiht | shoof: can you describe your use case a bit more? What type of connectivity do you have between the DC's, and how much data are you expecting to pass through the system? | 15:33 |
creiht | btorch: lol | 15:33 |
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creiht | The swift team would like to have better cross DC replication, but that is a difficult problem to solve. The container sync functionality is the first step in trying to get there | 15:35 |
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shoof | We have a dedicated line between geographically seperated DCs. Our goal is eventually to run active/active, but are currently using the remote DC for failover. We are experimenting with migrating from NAS to swift to remove mounts and allow local writes in each DC. | 15:36 |
notmyname | sounds like container sync would be a better option than one logical cluster across both DCs | 15:37 |
shoof | Initially, would be looking at roughly 10TB in phase 1 | 15:37 |
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shoof | container-sync seems quite new - any suggestions on resources to dive into it? | 15:40 |
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dchalloner | Has anyone gotten the cloudfiles java api binding library (or any java API library) working with openstack? | 16:35 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824646 in nova "API v1.1 Update server (PUT) returns "204 No Content"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824646 | 16:41 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824690 in glance "Glance incorrectly checking whether image-cache is enabled" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824690 | 17:56 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824706 in glance "gettext interfering with nosetest runs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824706 | 18:21 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824740 in glance "Public / Private Image Tests are lacking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824740 | 19:21 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824745 in nova "OSAPI flavorRef causes 500" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824745 | 19:26 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824780 in nova "Typo in update_service_capabilities: UnboundLocalError: local variable 'capability' referenced before assignment" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824780 | 20:21 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824794 in glance "Tables are generated outside of migration process" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824794 | 20:46 |
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shaon_ | getting this error CRITICAL nova [-] failed to create /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/server1.MainThread-23038 | 21:10 |
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WormMan | so, is there a good "Idiots Guide to Keystone" out there somewhere? | 21:53 |
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nilsson | WormMan, there doesn't seem to be much docs about keystone | 21:56 |
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dolphm | WormMan: nilsson: docs are something we're about to focus on quite a bit | 21:56 |
dolphm | WormMan: nilsson: the dev guide is definitely the best place to start, but it's not 100% up to date, unfortunately: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/content/identitydevguide.pdf?raw=true | 21:58 |
dolphm | WormMan: nilsson: but that will change over the next 2-3 weeks =) | 21:59 |
WormMan | thanks, I'm aware the only up to date docs are often the code :) | 21:59 |
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dolphm | WormMan: i'm not even sure if the code is up to date ;) | 22:01 |
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mshadle | is there any way to provision kvm-based VMs, and also have the VNC information included/setup? | 22:10 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824853 in nova "Add user-data support to OSAPI" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824853 | 23:06 |
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heckj | installing trunk packages onto a Natty box - getting an error on the debian install. | 23:11 |
heckj | I traced it back to nova running nova-manage db sync failing, with a SQLAlchemy migration error. | 23:12 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #824866 in nova "nova-common (milestone3, trunk) error on installing on Ubuntu 11.04 Natty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824866 | 23:26 |
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maplebed | Hi - I'm planning on setting up a good sized swift cluster that will exist in (at least) two data centers. I want reads and writes in each location to be local and fast with eventual consistency (ideally, < 1 minute delay) to the other locations. | 23:27 |
maplebed | is there a standard architecture for that style set up? | 23:27 |
maplebed | is that sort of setup where http://swift.openstack.org/overview_container_sync.html can come in handy? | 23:28 |
notmyname | maplebed: best bet with the current feature in swift is two autonomous clusters with container sync | 23:28 |
notmyname | yes | 23:28 |
maplebed | you say 'current feature set'... is that sort of thing on the roadmap for a more built-in approach? | 23:29 |
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maplebed | do you know what happens if simultanous writes go to each cluster with the same key and different content? | 23:31 |
notmyname | I'd like to see some better multi-DC support for one logical swift cluster. we've got some stuff planned along those lines | 23:31 |
notmyname | maplebed: last write wins, even on container sync | 23:32 |
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maplebed | what's the resolution of the timestamp? say, if both writes were during the same second will it use microsecond timing? | 23:32 |
maplebed | (assuming a microsecond confilct is ... unlikely.) | 23:33 |
notmyname | ah....you're going to make me look at the code, aren't you :-) | 23:33 |
maplebed | nah, it's cool. | 23:33 |
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notmyname | I think it's the system resolution of time (python time.time()) | 23:33 |
maplebed | I'm just writing "this may well be a good idea for us" doc and anticipate the question. | 23:33 |
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maplebed | >>> print time.time() | 23:35 |
maplebed | 1313105697.47 | 23:35 |
maplebed | ^^^ looks like centiseconds. | 23:35 |
uvirtbot | maplebed: Error: "^^" is not a valid command. | 23:35 |
maplebed | oh shush, bot. | 23:35 |
maplebed | anyway. that's good enough for me fro now. Thanks! | 23:36 |
notmyname | maplebed: it's the quivalent of "%016.05f" % (float(time.time())) | 23:36 |
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notmyname | time.time() for me is 1313105796.92988 | 23:36 |
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maplebed | hey, me too. | 23:37 |
maplebed | sweet. | 23:37 |
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