Tuesday, 2011-09-13

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HugoKuoanyone around ....got some question about SWFIT04:03
HugoKuowhile I GET it's work04:03
HugoKuobut failed to PUT04:03
HugoKuoresponse is http 40404:03
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HugoKuocan I specify the log file of Swift Proxy-server ?07:04
HugoKuoI mean put into another file instead of "syslog"07:04
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reidracyou can change that on your syslog configuration07:17
reidracit depends on your syslog server, but you can do it with any of them07:17
reidraccheck this for rsyslog: http://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html#optional-setting-up-rsyslog-for-individual-logging07:19
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HugoKuoreidrac , thanks07:24
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uvirtbotNew bug: #848785 in nova "command "nova-manage vpn list progect_name" faild " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84878509:43
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koolhead11hey all10:31
koolhead11will we have live cast of design summit10:31
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uvirtbotNew bug: #848857 in openstack-ci "Openstack nova-coverage job on Jenkins failures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84885711:06
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uvirtbotNew bug: #848960 in nova "Files are missing from tarball due to rev1559" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84896013:16
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uvirtbotNew bug: #848971 in openstack-ci "Swift fails to build on maverick/lucid in milestone-proposed / release PPAs" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84897113:26
notmynamettx ^?13:27
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ttxnotmyname: that's the issue we talked about yesterday. Was told to file bugs about them.13:28
* notmyname scrolls back to figure out what we talked about yesterday13:29
ttxcurrently the Swift release PPA contains 1.4.2 for Lucid/maverick, while it should contain 1.4.313:29
notmynameright. ok13:29
ttxtold you I'd ping mtaylor about it . he wasn't around yesterday, so I file bugs to keep track13:29
notmynamettx: is there anything in swift causing the build to fail or is it something on the ci side?13:29
ttxnotmyname: i'm pretty sure it's just a missing dep in the PPA somewhere13:30
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ttx(since it builds ok on natty/oneiric)13:30
notmynamettx: ok. feel free to use https://github.com/crashsite/swift_debian/ as a base13:30
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uvirtbotNew bug: #848978 in openstack-ci "Nova fails to build in trunk PPA" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84897813:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #848973 in openstack-ci "Nova fails to build in milestone-proposed PPA" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84897313:32
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uvirtbotNew bug: #848983 in openstack-ci "Swift: Fails to build on maverick/lucid in Trunk PPA" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84898313:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #848985 in openstack-ci "Glance: Fails to build in Trunk PPA for maverick/lucid" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84898513:41
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uvirtbotNew bug: #848980 in openstack-ci "Nova/Glance have outdated versions for maverick/lucid in milestone PPA" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84898013:43
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mat_loweryCan I do something similar to "ec2-register ... -b /dev/sdj=:100:false" with OpenStack?  In other words, I want to provide a 100GB device to every instance.13:49
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alperkanathow can we understand the amount of stored data in swift? df -h says we have around 200G data while st stat says 642877139447 bytes which is around 600G14:00
alperkanatdoes st stat count the replicas too?14:00
btorchalperkanat: no it shouldn't14:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #849007 in keystone "keystone-manage commands need to convert tenant name to ID" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84900714:01
btorchalperkanat: that's a wierd .. is that on a saio ?14:02
alperkanatwell there's a difference between the outputs of df -h (on storage node) says and st stat14:02
alperkanatbtorch: no, it's production14:02
alperkanatwe're currently moving 5T data to our new swift servers14:02
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alperkanatthe storage nodes currently have around 200G data each (according to df -h) but st stat reports that we have 600G data14:03
btorchok, how many storage nodes you have ? and I assume you are doing st stat for one account ?14:04
alperkanatbtorch: 314:04
alperkanatbtorch: yes14:04
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alperkanatbtorch: st -A XXXXXXX -U default:tunix -K XXXXX stat14:04
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btorchcan you paste a "df -kh" of each storage node and your st output as well14:06
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btorchalperkanat: if you don't know alrady http://paste.openstack.org/14:07
btorchalperkanat: what is the swift version ?14:08
alperkanatbtorch: default ubuntu 10.04 lts packages.. aptitude says 1.2.0.x14:08
alperkanatbtorch: df -h outputs: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2431/14:08
Raziquehi all, is it possible to remove a service for an host (eg. service displayed via nova-manage service list)14:09
Raziquefor instance, I'd like to get rid of "nova-volumes " on a service since it's no longer installed on it14:09
alperkanatbtorch: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2432/14:10
reidracalperkanat: it looks OK to me14:10
btorchalperkanat: ok so you have 1.8T of usage14:10
btorchyeah looks fine14:10
reidracyou have 3 drives in each zone, with 3 zones14:11
reidracif you have around 600GB14:11
alperkanati just discovered that14:11
alperkanati'm sorry :)14:11
reidraceach drive needs to handle 200GB :)14:11
btorchn oworries14:11
alperkanati haven't slept much yesterday night because of this migration14:11
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btorchalperkanat: so you are actually migrating the data instead of upgrading swift ? although 1.2.0 - 1.4.x upgrade could be messy14:12
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alperkanatbtorch: ubuntu 10.04 lts has those packages.. i didn't want to upgrade to 1.4.x initially..14:16
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alperkanatbtorch: and migrating the data is really urgent for us now14:16
alperkanatwould it be better to shutdown replication during migration?14:16
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btorchalperkanat: I think that really depends on how you are doing this migration and how reliable your drives are14:20
btorchalperkanat: are you basically using the API binding to collect the data for an account and then just push that data into the new cluster for that acount ?14:20
xavicampahi guys, anyone running nova with libvirt+xen (not xenserver nor XCP)? I wonder if nova-compute *has to* be running in the dom0 or it can be running in some other machine? Thanks!14:21
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btorchalperkanat: is the replication and proxies using the same network ?14:22
alperkanatbtorch: i'm firing the migration scripts on swift nodes (proxy and storage nodes), pulling files with wget (from edgecast) and pushing them with st into 1 account14:22
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alperkanatbtorch: yes but proxy has 2 nics14:22
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alperkanatcurrently we have a migration rate of 2 GB/min14:24
alperkanatnot super of course :)14:24
alperkanatsorry 1 GB/2min14:25
alperkanataround 8MB/s14:26
btorchare the replicators really causing  an impact on performance on the storage node (cpu,mem,io)? he is the thing right. You could have it off since when you put an object (account,container,object) it will be pushed to 3 nodes (assuming you are using 3 replicas) ... now if one of those pushes fail it will try a handoff node if you have one. If you don't have one you will only have 2 copies and that's where the replicator will also come in play.14:27
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reidracbtorch: it's pushed to 2 nodes, the 3rd replica is made by rsync in background14:28
btorchalperkanat: even if you have 2 copies on the correct nodes + 1 copy on the handoff node .. the replicator should eventually move that 1 copy from the handoff node to the proper node once it sees that node/device  is online14:28
btorchreidrac: no it doesn't14:29
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reidracbtorch: I was told the proxy returns success when two storage nodes have a copy of the object14:29
notmyname2 have to be made successfully, but it tries all 314:29
reidracOK, thanks notmyname :)14:29
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reidracso it's "at least 2", thanks :)14:30
alperkanatnotmyname: as far as i remember, i've read in the docs that it's only a success when an object is written to all 3 nodes (if replication is 3)?14:30
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notmynamealperkanat: no. 2 copies must be written successfully. all 3 will be attempted.14:32
alperkanatnotmyname: so 2 is minimum, max is N whatever you specify while creating the ring?14:32
notmynamealperkanat: technically, it's success = num_success > (replica_count / 2)14:35
notmynameso, greater than half of the replica count14:35
alperkanati see14:35
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alperkanatso closing the replicator for speed would fail?14:35
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notmynamealperkanat: you risk durability14:37
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alperkanatnotmyname: and what happens if i risk it? do the writes fail since it can't have a copy?14:38
notmynamealperkanat: no. (well, yes eventually) you are at higher risk when hardware fails (drives, etc)14:38
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notmynameso eventually drive failures would cause writes to fail14:39
notmynamebut the immediate risk is that drive failures with no replication running could cause you to lose data14:39
alperkanatok thanks14:40
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kbringarddoes FlatDHCP work with projects?14:42
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reidracgeez, I've hit "the infinite charset: utf-8" bug :S14:46
reidracfortunately we're upgrading to 1.4.3 anytime this week14:46
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catbothi, are there any formula to calculate the total storage size of swift with multiple nodes? Assume my swift are consist of 6 nodes,  each node has 2TB, I believe its size is not 6*2=12T, but how do I calculate it?14:53
doudeI all. How use keystone authentication with EC2 API ?14:53
doudeI need to point EC2 URL to keystone URL ?14:54
dillon-wdoes glance support euca2ools?14:54
notmynamecatbot: convert the marketing TB to real TB (1000MB -> 1024MB) then estimate the "fullness" you want to have (like 80%) then divide by the replica count to get billable storage14:54
notmynamecatbot: for example: http://serverfault.com/questions/270002/calculating-physical-to-usable-storage-for-open-stack-swift-object-storage14:56
catbotnotmyname: thanks very much, that is very helpful to me14:59
kbringarddillon-w: how do you mean?14:59
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dillon-wjaypipes-afk: hi jay, does glance support euca2ools? i met some issue when using euca2ools to upload image to glance (cactus), and I was wondering if it's API compatbility issue.14:59
kbringarddillon-w: when you're uploading images using euca2ools, it doesn't talk to glance directly15:00
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kbringardit talks to the nova-objectstore, which handles the reception, unbundling, etc,15:00
kbringardit then takes the unbundled image and uploads it into glance15:00
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dillon-wkbringard : oh, thanks for the explanation. I found the uploaded image status is always 'decrypting'.15:01
kbringarddo you have nova-objectstore running?15:01
dillon-wkbringard : yes, i think so15:01
kbringardbeyond that I'm not entirely sure… I just upload images straight into glance15:02
kbringardI'd check the log files for any exceptions15:02
kbringardit may shed some light on why it's breaking15:02
dillon-wkbringard: directly uploading image to glance works well.15:02
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kbringardworks well for me… there is the glance-upload tool which comes with glance15:03
dillon-wkbringard : thx.  let me dig into the log to see if there is any clue.15:03
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jaypipesdillon-w: yes, kbringard is absolutely correct :)15:14
dillon-wjaypipes: :) thx.  looked into nova-api.log and found 'openssl rsautl -decrypt -inkey' failed.15:15
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jaypipesdillon-w: failed with what error? does it say?15:19
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dillon-wjaypipes : the log said the reture value was 1.  and running that cmd directly on console never returns.15:20
kbringardjaypipes: I still owe you that beer, BTW; I'll make good in Boston :-D15:21
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jaypipeskbringard: I'll happily take beer :)15:33
jaypipesdillon-w: hmm, I'm not sure mate :( Perhaps post a question on Launchpad or post to the mailing list? Also, might want to ping vishy when he's up and running.15:33
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dillon-wjaypipes: :) never mind. thx all the same for explaining the workflow of glance.15:35
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jaypipesdillon-w: that was all kbringard :) but cheers!15:36
kbringardcheers, indeed15:37
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dillon-wjaypipes : for diablo, glance still need objectstore to work with euca2ools?15:37
dillon-wkbringard: thank you15:38
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jaypipesdillon-w: yes. well, *Nova* still needs nova-objectstore to work with eucatools' images tools.15:44
jaypipesdillon-w: or you could just use the OpenStack API instead of the EC2 API and be done with them all ;)15:44
dillon-wjaypipes : well, there's some missing part for OSAPI, e.g. volume manipulation15:45
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jaypipesdillon-w: true enough! :)15:54
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uvirtbotNew bug: #849117 in nova "Usage spec requires create_ip and delete_ip events" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84911716:08
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kbringardanyone know if the use_deprecated_auth flag works?16:40
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uvirtbotNew bug: #849154 in nova "swap is interpreted in GB, not MB" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84915416:41
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uvirtbotNew bug: #849160 in python-novaclient "swap not listed in output of nova-manage flavor" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84916016:51
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uvirtbotNew bug: #849207 in nova "Hostname not injected to xenstore upon creation" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84920717:41
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uvirtbotNew bug: #849244 in openstack-ci "Gerrit should show inline comments in review comment blocks" [Wishlist,Opinion] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84924418:11
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agyi have 2 swift proxy servers and i want to configure my glance server to use both. it looks like glance only wants 1 auth address. using apache to proxypass requests (using proxybalancer) doesn't seem to work. does anyone have any pointers?18:47
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notmynameagy: load balance the 2 proxies behind a single vip?18:48
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agynotmyname: you mean using dns?18:48
agyor are you meaning a hardware load balancer?18:49
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notmynameagy: hardware or software load balancer. pound, seus, etc18:49
agynotmyname: ok. i'm trying with apache and it's not working as i expect. i might try haproxy18:50
notmynamehaproxy doesn't terminate ssl, right?18:50
agyi'm trying to make sure that i'm not going down a rabbit hole18:50
agynotmyname: no it doesn't :-(18:50
notmynameuse pound. or zeus, if you want to pay18:51
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agynotmyname: ok. so i'm not thinking about this incorrectly. thanks18:54
notmynameagy: no. if you have 2+ proxies, you should load balance them (and terminate ssl on the load balancer). our tests show that pound has the best throughput for open source LBs and zeus has the best overall throughput18:55
agynotmyname: ok thanks.18:56
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adam_gat network creation, is it possible to declare the range of fixed_ips that will be used for flatdhcp? the fixed_ips table seems to get filled with andresses for the entire subnet, and i must manually delete the bottom and top ranges from the table19:08
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uvirtbotNew bug: #849329 in nova "test_libvirt shouldn't mock import_class/import_object" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84932919:26
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gnu111does anyone have a script that can associate public ip to vms (in cactus)>20:03
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vishygnu111: you mean using euca-allocate-address etc.?20:14
BasTichelaarhi all20:14
gnu111vishy: yes. I just fired up 50 instances and don't want to run that command for all of these.20:14
BasTichelaaris there a way to disable snatting rules?20:14
vishygnu111: shouldn't be to hard20:15
gnu111I know. I am just being lazy :D20:15
BasTichelaarI struggle a lot with accessing a routed network from instances because of the SNAT rules20:16
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BasTichelaarI know the options --my_ip and --routing_source_ip, but I just want to disable snat rules if possible20:17
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vishyeuca-describe-instances | grep i- | cut -f2 > instance_ids.txt20:17
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uvirtbotNew bug: #849368 in glance "Image properties min_ram and min_disk are non-existant" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84936820:18
gnu111vishy: cool. I will try that.20:19
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vishyfor ID in `cat instance_ids.txt`; do ADDR=`euca-allocate-address | cut-f2`; euca-associate_address -i $ID $ADDR; done;20:21
vishygnu111: something like that?20:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #849381 in nova "Windows hostnames can only be <= 15 chars in length" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84938120:22
gnu111ya, then I can get the ips from euca-describe-addresses.20:22
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gnu111euca-describe-addresses |grep None|awk {'print $2'}20:24
vishygnu111: that for loop will allocate and associate one id per vm20:25
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vishyalthough there is a missing space before the -f220:26
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gnu111vishy: ah yes. sorry. didn't notice that. cool!20:26
vishygnu111:  it stores it in ADDR20:26
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gnu111vishy: great. this worked. I just changed euca-allocate-address to euca-describe-addresses. As I already had the ip addresses allocated.20:29
vishyshell scripting FTW20:29
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kbringardI know it's a bashism, but I prefer $( command ) to backticks20:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #849398 in glance "ubuntu packages fail to build after scrubber merge" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84939820:31
kbringardno clue why20:31
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eugenesI am trying to figure out what the default username and password are for openstack-dashboard. Does anyone know? I have tried admin, admin and that is incorrect21:11
cereal_barsde default user/pass is the one you setup during the instalation of openstack-dashboard21:12
eugenesin the instructions on the web (http://wiki.openstack.org/OpenStackDashboard) there is no mention of user/pass creation.21:12
cereal_barseugenes: let's see21:14
eugenescereal_bars: the cactus release docs do mention something about that.21:14
eugenesbut those instructions ask that you get dashboard from bzr21:15
cereal_barseugenes: yes, in the previous release, you has to do syncdb in some point, and there was where you define the user and password for dashboard admin21:15
cereal_barseugenes: exactly, I used to get the code from bzr :P21:15
eugenescereal_bars: in diablo, there is no user/pass anymore?21:16
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cereal_barseugenes: not sure, I'm not in diablo yet21:16
cereal_barseugenes: try this: tools/with_venv.sh dashboard/manage.py syncdb21:17
cereal_barsand then  runserver21:17
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eugenescereal_bars: when I syncdb, it creates tables, but does not ask for a user/pass21:20
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eugenescereal_bars: and runserver gives me what I had before. I am willing to entertain that something has to be done with keystone and nova, but exactly what is not well documented. perhaps after the documentation blitz on Monday, everything will be revealed.21:21
cereal_barseugenes: I hope so.. i'm just trying to remember what we used to do, because I'm not at the office right now so can't connect to a testing server to see how to do it21:22
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cereal_barseugenes: try with you nova username21:26
cereal_barsone of my colleagues is online and just asked :P21:26
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eugenescereal_bars: just to verify, my nova username is listed in the api-nova.ini file correct?21:29
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eugenescereal_bars: let me ask that as a question, where could I find the nova username?21:30
cereal_barseugenes: the one you setup when you did nova-manage user admin <something>21:30
eugenesaccording to the novarc file21:30
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eugenescereal_bars:  I used the nova.sh script prepared by vish21:31
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eugenescereal_bars: I see that in the script21:31
eugenescereal_bars: I have tried that user name and password21:31
eugenescereal_bars: it does not work21:32
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annegentleeugenes: cereal_bars: We have a doc bug logged https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/813072 for the Dashboard docs and Keystone21:39
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eugenesThank you annegentle. Hopefully the documentation blitz will resolve this.21:41
annegentleeugenes: yeah the blitz will add to the pile of doc bugs but hopefully with 2 people already assigned they will make it a priority. :)21:42
eugenesannegentle: it is difficult to preview dashboard if you can't install it! thanks again.21:44
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reedhello Marco-friend, lets test this thing22:18
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uvirtbotNew bug: #849486 in nova "Namespaces for Compute API 1.1 extensions need /compute/ in the URL " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/84948622:21
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reedsun is back22:25
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reedsorry, still checking22:26
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