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g2 | Hi there, Can someone explain me what is a "floating ip" in nova. I am a bit confused about its use. | 00:07 |
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Luis_ | Is anyone here? | 00:40 |
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deshantm_laptop | Luis_: best just to ask your question and be patient | 00:42 |
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spikebike | heh | 00:58 |
* spikebike fishes for anyone using openstack with DRBD | 00:58 | |
spikebike | (while reading various googled blog and forum posts mentioning similar) | 00:58 |
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WormMan | DRBD? for what? | 00:59 |
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mandela123 | hi | 01:10 |
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mandela123 | anyone online? | 01:23 |
Ryan_Lane | mandela123: ask a question, and someone will likely get back with you | 01:24 |
Ryan_Lane | if someone who can answer it is around | 01:24 |
mandela123 | i want to know how openstack support virtualbox | 01:24 |
mandela123 | must the compute node install the virtubox software | 01:25 |
mandela123 | if i upload a image which the type is vdi | 01:25 |
mandela123 | and how shoud i config the nova.conf with libvrt_tye | 01:26 |
mandela123 | libvirt_type | 01:26 |
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baynaa | hi | 01:30 |
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fujin | yo guys, anyone had any trouble with console.log logging for instances with libvirt/kvm ? | 01:35 |
fujin | just a 0 bytes file in our testing | 01:35 |
fujin | trying to diagnose some connectivity issues. | 01:36 |
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hugokuo | morning | 01:45 |
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atkisc | KeypairNotFound: Keypair %(keypair_name)s not found for user %(user_id)s | 02:53 |
atkisc | when i boot instance | 02:53 |
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toluene | hi! is there any install script for the lastest diablo ? | 03:41 |
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mogg | hello | 06:14 |
mogg | i want to try openstack diablo | 06:14 |
mogg | i dled the tar.gz from the website | 06:14 |
mogg | but i dont see ab installation guide | 06:15 |
mogg | can you help me? | 06:15 |
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naehring | mogg, have a look on docs.openstack.ogr | 06:16 |
naehring | org | 06:16 |
mogg | should i just do python setup.py install or something | 06:17 |
mogg | ohh ook naehringm, thanks i will look into it | 06:17 |
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rmk | Has anyone tried block migrations? | 06:21 |
rmk | I'm getting corrupted root disks when I use it | 06:21 |
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HugoKuo__ | does the peaking of Pound is 600 requests only ? | 06:39 |
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winston-d | has anyone tried OSAPI to create instance on Cactus? | 06:57 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #857097 in nova "Nova home page still shows Cactus release as latest build available for download" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857097 | 07:06 |
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HugoKuo__ | windston-d , I think yes .... | 07:19 |
atkisc | diablo 4 release ,good ? | 07:21 |
winston-d | HugoKuo__ : hi, i am wondering how OSAPI determine which project to use, when one user belongs to multiple projects. | 07:23 |
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tzn | hi, anybody from openstack-dashboard? | 07:24 |
atkisc | are you from china ? | 07:24 |
tzn | @atkisc: you mean me? | 07:25 |
larissa | tzn: Error: "atkisc:" is not a valid command. | 07:25 |
atkisc | @tzn : i from china | 07:25 |
larissa | atkisc: Error: "tzn" is not a valid command. | 07:25 |
tzn | i'm not ;) | 07:25 |
atkisc | o | 07:26 |
atkisc | diablo 4 release dashboard , problem ? | 07:26 |
tzn | no, I'd like to contribute translations | 07:27 |
atkisc | o , | 07:28 |
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B_Night | Hello guys can someone point a good howto install swift and some use cases for the object store | 07:33 |
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winston-d | atkisc: Dong Zhibin on the mailing list? | 07:36 |
winston-d | B_Night : docs.openstack.org | 07:36 |
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B_Night | winston-d I try that but unfortunatlly I can`t get it I try to install swift from apt-get | 07:37 |
winston-d | B_Night : so you have some problem w/ installation? | 07:37 |
B_Night | no I don`t quite understand how and what I should install | 07:38 |
atkisc | winston-d: who are you ? | 07:38 |
B_Night | I read this http://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html | 07:38 |
winston-d | atkisc : some lurker | 07:39 |
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atkisc | :-D | 07:40 |
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winston-d | B_Night : I have no idea. I've never tried SAIO installation. I installed swift via source code. | 07:44 |
winston-d | B_Night : maybe you can read and try following instructions here: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-object-storage/admin/content/ch_installing-and-configuring-openstack-object-storage.html | 07:44 |
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B_Night | winston-d is there some requierments for disk space | 07:46 |
B_Night | I can try and run this swift on one vm in the cloud this will be interesting | 07:46 |
winston-d | B_Night : you can still use VM while following same instruction, i think | 07:46 |
B_Night | yes thank you | 07:47 |
atkisc | winston-d : 报出你的名号 | 07:47 |
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winston-d | atkisc : my IRC client cannot read Chinese characters | 07:47 |
atkisc | 。。。 | 07:47 |
atkisc | who are you ? | 07:48 |
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baynaa | hi all, I got "RemoteError: TypeError 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable" when trying to lauch a new instance. | 08:26 |
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Razique | baynaa: HI :) is it the only exception | 08:32 |
Razique | could you check nova-compute.log and nova-api.log ? | 08:32 |
Razique | I've already seen that error, but don't recall the source | 08:32 |
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baynaa | Razique: now the problem gone. i might messed up something. | 08:46 |
baynaa | has anyone tried live migration on Cactus? | 08:46 |
baynaa | http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-live-migrations.html | 08:47 |
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Razique | not yet, since I use nova-volumes, but don't have the all NFS share stuff :) | 08:48 |
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baynaa | yeah yeah, that shared storage stuff! so the dir should be mounted before launching any instance | 09:01 |
baynaa | . | 09:01 |
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baynaa | Razique: is there anything about nova-volume? i mean, something to do with live migration? | 09:02 |
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Razique | yup :) when you attach a volume to an instance, an iscsi connection from nova-volumes to the node running the instance is made | 09:03 |
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Razique | now, I've asked, but we don't know what happens to that iscsi session | 09:03 |
Razique | I'm quite sure, the session is lost, which leads to a volume loss on the running instance | 09:04 |
baynaa | hm, that sounds something to test. mine is just a simple instance without storage, but if a simple test goes well then i would also like to test your senario. | 09:07 |
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koolhead17 | hi all | 09:19 |
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atkisc | hello,everyone | 09:25 |
atkisc | I open dashboard url ,error: | 09:25 |
atkisc | Could not import dashboard.views. Error was: No module named kombu.connection | 09:25 |
atkisc | i dont know problem | 09:25 |
B_Night | Hi all is there a way to increase the ram of an running vm ? | 09:26 |
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Razique | hi koolhead17 =- | 09:27 |
Razique | :) | 09:27 |
koolhead17 | Razique: hola | 09:27 |
Razique | B_Night: you need to run a "resize" | 09:27 |
HugoKuo__ | winston-d , that's a good question ....... | 09:27 |
Razique | that implies a live migration | 09:27 |
Razique | B_Night: the openstack-compute cli allows you to do a resize and a confirm-resize | 09:28 |
Razique | https://github.com/jacobian/openstack.compute | 09:28 |
B_Night | Razique thanks for that info | 09:29 |
Razique | you welcome | 09:29 |
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atkisc | Razique | 09:35 |
Razique | yup ? :) | 09:36 |
atkisc | I open dashboard url ,error: | 09:36 |
atkisc | Could not import dashboard.views. Error was: No module named kombu.connection | 09:36 |
atkisc | i dont know problem | 09:37 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #857209 in nova "contrib/nova.sh is broken, due to syntax changes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857209 | 09:39 |
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Razique | atkisc: which OS ? | 09:41 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #857217 in glance "Error: Couldn't clone git://github.com/jacobian/openstack.compute.git into " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857217 | 09:41 |
atkisc | ubuntu server 11.04 x86_64 | 09:41 |
Razique | try aptitude install python-kombu | 09:41 |
Razique | the package contains the lib | 09:41 |
atkisc | dpkg-query -l |grep python-kombu | 09:42 |
Razique | I checked, the packages does exist :) | 09:43 |
atkisc | exist | 09:43 |
atkisc | i checked | 09:43 |
Razique | so a simple aptitude install python-kombu should work | 09:43 |
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atkisc | execution | 09:44 |
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atkisc | root@release:/opt/openstack-dashboard/openstack-dashboard# aptitude install python-kombu | 09:44 |
atkisc | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. | 09:44 |
atkisc | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 52 not upgraded. | 09:44 |
atkisc | Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used. | 09:44 |
Razique | that means the package is installed :/ | 09:44 |
atkisc | yes | 09:45 |
koolhead17 | atkisc: are u on oneiric? | 09:45 |
atkisc | what? | 09:46 |
koolhead17 | atkisc: are you using ubuntu oneiric | 09:46 |
atkisc | yes | 09:46 |
atkisc | diablo release dashboard | 09:47 |
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atkisc | hi, koolhead17 | 09:48 |
koolhead17 | atkisc: i can see pkg there on oneiric | 09:48 |
Razique | koolhead17: it means the package is installed don't u think ? | 09:50 |
B_Night | Razique: when i run openstack-compute resize | 09:51 |
B_Night | i get this error: | 09:51 |
B_Night | (nova): TRACE: File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/nova/compute/manager.py", line 894, in prep_resize (nova): TRACE: 'Migration error: destination same as source!')) | 09:51 |
Razique | atkisc: what dpkg -l | grep kombu gives ? | 09:51 |
B_Night | this is in nova-compute.log | 09:51 |
Razique | B_Night: how many nodes do you have ? | 09:51 |
atkisc | root@release:/opt/openstack-dashboard/openstack-dashboard# dpkg -l | grep kombu | 09:51 |
atkisc | ii python-kombu 1.0.4-2~natty1 AMQP Messaging Framework for Python | 09:51 |
B_Night | only 1 node | 09:51 |
B_Night | it`s single server setup | 09:51 |
Razique | B_Night: yup, you need at least two nodes for a resize | 09:51 |
atkisc | i use ubuntu 11.04 | 09:51 |
B_Night | ok I understand | 09:51 |
Razique | the resize consists in a migration then | 09:51 |
koolhead17 | atkisc: it is indeed installed | 09:52 |
B_Night | so other way to increase my ram on this live vm then ? | 09:52 |
koolhead17 | :D | 09:52 |
Razique | in fact, as I recall, a clone with the new flavor is made | 09:52 |
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atkisc | yes | 09:52 |
Razique | then by confirming the resize, the current instance is deleted | 09:52 |
Razique | B_Night: you could try to edit the domain.xml file, but I wouldn't recommend that :D | 09:53 |
Razique | B_Night: do you use kmv or xen ? | 09:53 |
B_Night | no qemu | 09:54 |
B_Night | it`s on vm player virtual matchine testing only | 09:54 |
Razique | ah ok, so its it's a test | 09:54 |
Razique | try it :) | 09:54 |
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Razique | when you run an instance, a domain.xml file is created, into which you find the settings | 09:55 |
Razique | you could edit the xml file and change the value | 09:55 |
Razique | but the instance needs to be restart | 09:55 |
Razique | ed* | 09:55 |
B_Night | ok I understand | 09:55 |
Razique | that makes me think it's not a live resize at all :D | 09:55 |
Razique | sorry, wrong suggestion | 09:56 |
B_Night | I try to install swift on this vm but it looks like there is no enough ram to run | 09:56 |
B_Night | I only have 256 ram on the instance | 09:56 |
B_Night | so I need more | 09:56 |
B_Night | and somehow I don`t want to start all over again | 09:57 |
B_Night | maybe is better to just install swift on the host then | 09:57 |
B_Night | ? | 09:57 |
Razique | B_Night: mmm | 10:00 |
Razique | you are on diablo ? | 10:00 |
B_Night | yes | 10:01 |
B_Night | and I want to have some fun with swift | 10:01 |
btorch | B_Night: 512 is ok but to really have fun a 1024 is better :) | 10:02 |
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Razique | install swift on a new instance then | 10:04 |
Razique | it's the bast way to keep ur instance intact | 10:04 |
LanceHaig | I know this is a question that is probably asked quite a bit. I am sorry if this upsets you but I need to know. Is the Openstack suite ready for production usage? | 10:04 |
B_Night | LanceHaig: yes it`s rackspace use it in production afcourse with a lot of modifications and additional software | 10:05 |
Razique | LanceHaig: I say yes for the cactus release, definitely :) | 10:05 |
B_Night | Razique I somehow want to not lost additional 1 hour to reconfigure everything will migrate to volume and the boot from it | 10:07 |
B_Night | this will be the best way I should do this at first place | 10:07 |
koolhead17 | keystone giving me nostalgia, need to spend good time with it | 10:08 |
btorch | LanceHaig: not sure about Nova .. but openstack-swift has been in production even before it was release on Openstack and it's pretty stable | 10:09 |
Razique | B_Night: here is what I would try then | 10:09 |
Razique | shutdown the VM, but not via openstack | 10:09 |
Razique | so you keep all the files | 10:09 |
Razique | you could try to kill the process, but sees risky | 10:09 |
Razique | edit the domain.xml in order to upgrade ram | 10:09 |
Razique | then run reboot the instance via mnova | 10:10 |
Razique | nova | 10:10 |
Razique | you could also update the database the match the flavor | 10:10 |
B_Night | or I can just attach a volume dd /dev/vda to /dev/vdb then just run an new instance vith snapshot from this volume and voala I have a running swift from with I can boot wathever I want | 10:11 |
B_Night | ;) | 10:11 |
Razique | koolhead17: I don't know how keystone works, and the migration from cactus to diablo is coming here :) | 10:11 |
Razique | B_Night: yah, too :) | 10:12 |
koolhead17 | Razique: make sure to document it well man. are you using cactus for production? | 10:12 |
Razique | since disablo allows boot from volumes | 10:12 |
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Razique | anyone made the migration from cactus to diablo yet ? | 10:13 |
LanceHaig | B_Night, Razique, btorch thanks guys | 10:16 |
Razique | you welcome :) do you have some topic on which you not sure about ? | 10:16 |
B_Night | Razique I was in cactus before update to diablo and it was pain I migrate from cactus to D3 | 10:16 |
B_Night | but there is no instructions when I do this | 10:17 |
B_Night | i have some issues with database and also with object storage since in Diablo the images should be on glance | 10:17 |
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B_Night | but for around 2-3 hours I have everything up and running again | 10:17 |
B_Night | on D3 | 10:17 |
Razique | ok, excellent then ! | 10:18 |
Razique | did you lost the running instances, the volumes ? | 10:18 |
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LanceHaig | Razique, well I want to see if I can start a cluster with diablo and want to make sure I won't hit any issues that are known about. | 10:20 |
LanceHaig | but I still have the openstack book to read through | 10:20 |
koolhead17 | Razique: did you try keystone on natty? | 10:20 |
koolhead17 | for dashboard | 10:21 |
koolhead17 | LanceHaig: hello | 10:21 |
Razique | koolhead17: I've never used keystone yet | 10:21 |
Razique | LanceHaig: I can't tell for diablo, under cactus I've 6 running compute node, one could controller and one glance server | 10:23 |
Razique | so far so good | 10:23 |
Razique | the next step will be to have a server dedicated to nova-volumes | 10:23 |
B_Night | Razique have no issues with volumes but I lost my instances also all the things that was not on glance also I lost my credentials and network configuration | 10:23 |
B_Night | Razique: what are the hardware specs on this 6 compute nodes ? | 10:24 |
Razique | B_Night: mmm very interesting, how did you "lost" them ? were they running and then stopped ? | 10:24 |
B_Night | I want to move my setup on bare hardware soon so I need some shopping lis | 10:24 |
B_Night | I am not sure exactly because my whole nova-network was down some issue with vm_bridge settings | 10:25 |
B_Night | however nothing importent was lost | 10:26 |
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Razique | they all have 32gb of ram and 16 cores | 10:26 |
B_Night | so how many instances you run on them > | 10:26 |
B_Night | ? | 10:26 |
Razique | all proliant DL3XX servers | 10:26 |
Razique | at the moment around 15 | 10:27 |
Razique | ok, good to know for the network thing | 10:27 |
Razique | I'll reinstall a cloud with the same cactus version, attach volumes to running instance and test everything then | 10:28 |
B_Night | that`s the best think to do before migration | 10:28 |
Razique | yah, I can't afford a crash hehe | 10:28 |
Razique | btw, i've written some DR scripts | 10:28 |
Razique | https://github.com/Razique/Bash-stuff | 10:29 |
Razique | we had two power loos at the datacenter | 10:29 |
Razique | I"ve written the script the day after ahah | 10:29 |
Razique | the script uses euca2ools, but it'll be updated soon | 10:29 |
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B_Night | I will check this scripts | 10:30 |
B_Night | I am wonder if you have some way to automatically start your instances when you have a crash like this | 10:31 |
Razique | dunno with diablo, but cactus nope | 10:31 |
B_Night | I watch a what of stuff about rightscale and there instances and wonder if there is a way to do the same with private cloud | 10:31 |
Razique | it's not aware of the crash, so thinks instances are still running | 10:31 |
B_Night | *a lot | 10:31 |
Razique | after that, the state change to "shutdown" | 10:32 |
Razique | so you have to run a "reboot" | 10:32 |
Razique | but update the database first | 10:32 |
B_Night | it`s not good since my test is on vm I can`t test stuff like crashesh at the moment I to often shutdown that vm | 10:33 |
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Razique | B_Night: I lived the worst case scenario : power loss, volumes connection loss, server reboots | 10:34 |
B_Night | I also want to invest some time in automation of the instances start process | 10:34 |
Razique | B_Night: you can check chef or puppet :) | 10:35 |
Razique | http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/openstack-compute-deployment-tool-with-puppet.html | 10:35 |
doude | Hi all, how works roles with keystone+Nova ? | 10:35 |
doude | RBAC allways working ? project owner, netadmin, itadmin,... ? | 10:35 |
Razique | doude: I've only found that http://wiki.openstack.org/keystone | 10:36 |
Razique | http://wiki.openstack.org/Keystone-Essex-BP-AuthZ | 10:36 |
B_Night | do you have any experience with stuff like this I play a little with some rightscale instances on AWS and have to say that it`s great to have such things and it works prity simple | 10:37 |
Razique | B_Night: what AWS does exactly ? | 10:37 |
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B_Night | it`s only the cloud backend on which rightscale images are runned | 10:38 |
B_Night | so nothing spectacular there | 10:38 |
B_Night | rightscale actually tun a small client program that pull scripts from repository and run them on instance startup | 10:39 |
B_Night | however you can have a script that deploy php app or mysql database or whatever you like | 10:39 |
B_Night | the actual data is stored somewere on the S3 storage that`s why I want to have swift running so I can test the same beheivor on my cloud and create some test instance types that are configured on run | 10:40 |
B_Night | ;) | 10:40 |
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Razique | waw, cool | 10:42 |
Razique | now, I simply populate my glance repo with customized images | 10:42 |
Razique | so i've a LAMP-debian-6 image | 10:42 |
Razique | etc... | 10:42 |
Razique | consumes more disk space compared to your solution though :) | 10:43 |
B_Night | it`s not my solution it`s rightscale ones I just watch a great webinar on that it`s called from 0 to cloud | 10:45 |
B_Night | and it`s fasinating | 10:45 |
Razique | that was an impersonal you :p | 10:45 |
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B_Night | at the begining I also told about customzied images | 10:46 |
Razique | would you send me the link ? :) | 10:46 |
B_Night | but this solution looks great | 10:46 |
B_Night | sure | 10:46 |
B_Night | one moment | 10:46 |
B_Night | http://www.rightscale.com/info_center/webinars/getting-started-series-from-zero-to-cloud-in-60-minutes.php | 10:46 |
Razique | thanks man | 10:47 |
B_Night | afcourse it has some advartising in this webinar but it`s great for having inpresion on what rightscale does and how | 10:47 |
B_Night | here you can found other webinars | 10:47 |
B_Night | http://www.rightscale.com/lp/webinar/getting-started-in-the-cloud.php | 10:48 |
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Razique | hehe http://thesensus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/BEHIND-CLOUDS-Satan-Hides.jpg | 10:55 |
Razique | el diablo | 10:55 |
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doude | Razique: thanks for your pointer but isn't more clear for me. I don't understand how to define role with Keystone | 11:19 |
doude | The nova roles (netadmin, itadmin, itsec, ...) are still relevant ? | 11:20 |
koolhead17 | doude: i doubt. even i want to know more of it :D | 11:21 |
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valeriy | hello | 11:25 |
valeriy | does anybody know how to isolate user from seeing instances in other projects? | 11:26 |
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valeriy | i suppose ti a user has only projectmanager role for its own project, he cannot see and terminate instances in other projects | 11:27 |
valeriy | but in fact, he does see them and he can terminate them as well | 11:27 |
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koolhead17 | valeriy: what are you wprking on cactus? | 11:32 |
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valeriy | no | 11:38 |
valeriy | diablo trunk | 11:38 |
valeriy | for testing purposes i have make two project and two users | 11:39 |
valeriy | after one user has started instance with command: "nova boot ....", another user can see that instance with "nova list" command and can terminate it with "nova delete <id>" | 11:40 |
valeriy | i use glance and i added images with command: glance add name="" kernel_id= ramdisk_id= < ... | 11:41 |
valeriy | may be there is something wrong with image preperties? | 11:41 |
valeriy | i have looked through "user_project_role_associations" table in NOVA database, but everything seems to be correct | 11:43 |
koolhead17 | valeriy: am trying diablo. So i cannot help you with that. Keystone is giving me crazy errors :( | 11:43 |
valeriy | so i wonder, is it possible to isolate instance visibility in openstack , like in Amazon for example, or not? may be RBAC model is not working yet? | 11:44 |
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Razique | valeriy: Hi :) | 12:09 |
Razique | weird, since a new projects generates new set of credentials | 12:09 |
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Razique | and u need them in order to interact with your objects (instances, images, etc..) | 12:09 |
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valeriy | that's all in theory only, i have looked through docs | 12:12 |
Razique | it's not theory, without credentials, you can't manage your cloud :p | 12:13 |
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valeriy | i mean RBAC model | 12:15 |
valeriy | u see, every "how to" ends by creating single user and single project, and only few words about RBAC in official docs | 12:16 |
Razique | that is right | 12:16 |
Razique | so for you two projects you have a set of different credentials or are they the same ? | 12:17 |
* Razique is just trying to figure ouy | 12:17 | |
Razique | out* | 12:17 |
valeriy | i have one cloud admin with its own project and another project with simple user | 12:17 |
valeriy | simple user has only projectmanager role | 12:18 |
valeriy | but he can terminate instances, started by cloud admin from his own project | 12:18 |
valeriy | that's nonsence | 12:18 |
Razique | that is very weird indeed | 12:19 |
Razique | and what are you using for the communication with the projects ? | 12:19 |
Razique | CLI or API ? | 12:19 |
valeriy | here, what i have done, step by step, just after clean installation | 12:21 |
valeriy | sudo nova-manage user admin novaadmin | 12:21 |
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valeriy | sudo nova-manage project create sandbox novaadmin | 12:22 |
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valeriy | sudo nova-manage project zipfile sandbox novaadmin novaadmin.zip | 12:22 |
valeriy | sudo nova-manage user create valeriy | 12:22 |
valeriy | sudo nova-manage project create test valeriy | 12:22 |
valeriy | sudo nova-manage project zipfile test valeriy valeriy.zip | 12:22 |
valeriy | then, novaadmin performed image upload, using: glance add name .... | 12:23 |
valeriy | in this situation, "valeriy" can see novaadmin instances and can terminate them | 12:23 |
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Razique | what did you do in order to use the "valeriy" user ? | 12:24 |
valeriy | ssh to server | 12:25 |
valeriy | unzip valeriy.zip | 12:25 |
valeriy | source novarc | 12:25 |
valeriy | nova image-list | 12:25 |
valeriy | nova list | 12:25 |
valeriy | nova delete | 12:25 |
valeriy | ec2 tools work in the same manner | 12:26 |
Razique | are you able to perform admin. task with that user ? | 12:26 |
koolhead17 | valeriy: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/starter/content/Role_Based_Access_Control-d1e2147.html | 12:27 |
koolhead17 | can you test this for me? | 12:27 |
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valeriy | yes, he can | 12:29 |
valeriy | sudo nova-manage create user{project} | 12:29 |
valeriy | that's weird | 12:29 |
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valeriy | because i have 'False' fro all commands: sudo nova-manage role has valeriy admin{cloudadmin, sysadmin,netadmin} | 12:30 |
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koolhead17 | Razique: http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaClientCLI are you using this now or still using eucatools | 12:54 |
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Razique | I was running https://github.com/jacobian/openstack.compute | 12:55 |
Razique | but I'm unable to boot servers so for that I use euca2oolks | 12:55 |
Razique | euca2ools | 12:55 |
Razique | but thanks for the link, I'll install it now :D | 12:55 |
koolhead17 | Razique: lol. :D | 12:56 |
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Razique | yah the version of openstack-compute is buggy | 12:56 |
Razique | its unable to retrieve ipgroups | 12:56 |
koolhead17 | annegentle: ping | 12:57 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #857347 in nova "Broken links in README" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857347 | 12:58 |
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Razique | koolhead17: so I'm trying to use less and less euca2ools, but since it was the only tools that allowed me to run instances | 13:00 |
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Razique | btw how can I remove a a package I installed ? | 13:02 |
Razique | I installed that one https://github.com/jacobian/openstack.compute | 13:02 |
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Razique | I figured, you reinstall it with the --record $file flag | 13:06 |
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annegentle | koolhead17: hi, looking into the cactus landing page difference now | 13:12 |
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koolhead17 | annegentle: cool. :D | 13:14 |
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Razique | koolhead17: hehe the rackspace cli doesn't work either | 13:19 |
Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2540/ | 13:19 |
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koolhead17 | Razique: patience my friend :D | 13:21 |
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Razique | mmmm ok ok :D so what should i do | 13:22 |
koolhead17 | hnag on with euca :D | 13:24 |
koolhead17 | *hang | 13:24 |
annegentle | koolhead17: how did the photo shoot go? | 13:24 |
Razique | ahah yah | 13:24 |
Razique | :D | 13:24 |
koolhead17 | annegentle: awesome. you will get them soon. :D | 13:24 |
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annegentle | koolhead17: got 'em! | 13:51 |
koolhead17 | annegentle: :P | 13:51 |
annegentle | :) you guys look great | 13:52 |
koolhead17 | annegentle: hehe. the one with beard is me | 13:53 |
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koolhead17 | kbringard: hey | 13:58 |
kbringard | 'morning | 13:58 |
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kbringard | how's it going? | 13:59 |
Razique | aye kbringard :) | 13:59 |
kbringard | Razique: good day, sir | 13:59 |
Razique | o/ | 14:04 |
mtrob | Hi all, I thought I would check here first, we run mostly OpenVZ systems, is openstack supporting that yet? | 14:05 |
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catbot_ | The team released Diablo early this day, but I notice keystone and dashboard are not ready to run, which aren't parts of Dialo of official? | 14:12 |
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Razique | catbot_: the dashboard it not considered officially part of Diablo, while keystone is | 14:14 |
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kbringard | mtrob: that's a good question… I don't think so, but I'd be happy to be corrected if I'm wrong | 14:16 |
kbringard | I know there is some LXC support | 14:16 |
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kbringard | there's a blueprint for OpenVZ support, though | 14:17 |
kbringard | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/openvz-driver | 14:17 |
catbot_ | there are so many changes to keystone, I think it is a good way to make a tag if it is ready for release | 14:17 |
kbringard | and it says it was accepted for diablo, so I could be 100% wrong :-) | 14:17 |
mtrob | that's what I've found, very sketchy details | 14:18 |
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catbot_ | Due to there no tags in git, so I doubt keystone is part of diablo | 14:20 |
koolhead17 | kbringard: would you mind helping me with this error FAIL: test_validate_token_expired_xml (keystone.test.functional.test_token.CheckToken) | 14:21 |
koolhead17 | i tried running python run_tests.py | 14:21 |
kbringard | koolhead17: I have not setup keystone in like 3 months, I don't know how much help I'll be :-/ | 14:22 |
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catbot_ | keystone is working for me, just dashboard does not work | 14:24 |
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catbot_ | I suggest you refresh checkout the code from git | 14:26 |
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koolhead17 | kbringard: :D | 14:31 |
kbringard | annegentle: on docs.openstack.org, if I click on the | 14:31 |
kbringard | err, stupid enter key | 14:31 |
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kbringard | on docs.openstack.org, if I click on Documentation at the top, it tries to take me to staging.docs.openstack.org, which is passworded | 14:32 |
kbringard | FYI | 14:32 |
annegentle | kbringard: eek. Thanks for the heads up | 14:34 |
annegentle | fixing. | 14:34 |
kbringard | np | 14:34 |
kbringard | I doubt many people would click on it from there, since it's the same page they're currently on | 14:34 |
kbringard | but, I'm a weirdo, I guess | 14:34 |
koolhead17 | :D | 14:35 |
* Razique just tried | 14:36 | |
kbringard | I saw a bug about this, but I guess there are 2 flags now for allowing project traffic or not? | 14:36 |
kbringard | —allow_project_net_traffic I think is the vlan flag | 14:36 |
kbringard | anyone know what the one for Flat is? | 14:36 |
kbringard | FlatDHCP, I mean | 14:36 |
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annegentle | kbringard: well at least it shows we do staging? :) | 14:38 |
kbringard | annegentle: haha, true enough | 14:38 |
annegentle | should be fixed in root, diablo, and /api now. | 14:39 |
kbringard | yea, it's correct for me now… at least the one case that it was broken before | 14:39 |
* koolhead17 broken reminds me of dashboard :p | 14:40 | |
kbringard | hehe, sorry koolhead17, I don't use the dashboard, so I don't know if I'll be much help | 14:41 |
koolhead17 | kbringard: :P | 14:41 |
kbringard | we wrote out own internal one like 10 months ago, because the OS one was very mature | 14:41 |
kbringard | s/because/before/ | 14:42 |
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Razique | I don't use the dashboard, CLI's much efficient imo :p | 14:43 |
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kbringard | Razique: well, yea, that's what I do most of the time as well | 14:43 |
koolhead17 | Razique: you mean euca ? | 14:43 |
kbringard | but onboarding newbs is way better when you can tell them to just go to a website | 14:43 |
koolhead17 | kbringard: :D | 14:43 |
Razique | koolhead17: euca for launching instances, glance for image, nova-manage for administration | 14:43 |
kbringard | hybridbox 1.6 has pretty decent openstack support too | 14:44 |
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Razique | and when I feel I don't use CLI enough, I play with nova | 14:44 |
Razique | since i removed the openstack-compute one | 14:44 |
kbringard | not that it's a dashboard replacement, but if you're just looking for something that's a nice hybrid between web interface and cli | 14:44 |
Razique | koolhead17: send them a .sh script | 14:44 |
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Razique | once they double click on it, it 'll performs cli tasks | 14:45 |
bpaluch | ok is it me or is a lot of the documentation kind of either out of date, or not really complete for diablo, like for instance, now that diablo is released, should it still be in trunk. If I do scripted install it does'nt seem to install everything I need. What is the best fresh install document to follow? | 14:45 |
kbringard | and send you their /etc/shadow file ;-) | 14:45 |
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Razique | and write a note "preserve bandwidth, don't use GUI's" | 14:45 |
koolhead17 | Razique: laawl kbringard yeah i know hybridfix rocks :P | 14:46 |
Razique | wow I totally forget it | 14:47 |
Razique | http://code.google.com/p/hybridfox/ | 14:47 |
Razique | it supports openstack now :D | 14:47 |
kbringard | Rackspace has an iPhone app that uses the openstack API and works pretty well, too | 14:47 |
koolhead17 | Razique: how could you :D | 14:47 |
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B_Night | Razique: hybridfox don`t work well with diablo | 14:47 |
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Razique | kbringard: where could we get it ? :p | 14:47 |
B_Night | I use euca2tools to launch instances | 14:47 |
kbringard | makes a pretty cool presentation to launch and configure VMs from your phone | 14:47 |
kbringard | Razique: it's in the app store | 14:48 |
kbringard | search for rackspace | 14:48 |
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koolhead17 | kbringard: not 4 droide? | 14:48 |
kbringard | possibly, I don't know, I have an iPhone :-) | 14:48 |
Razique | could I connect it to my cloud or is the auth url frozen ? | 14:48 |
kbringard | http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/rackspace-cloud/id327870903?mt=8 | 14:48 |
kbringard | you can add custom URLs | 14:48 |
notmyname | Razique: auth url is settable | 14:48 |
kbringard | so you can connect it to your cloud | 14:48 |
kbringard | would be kind of worthless for OpenStack otherwise ;-) | 14:48 |
* Razique need to do some NATing first since openvpn doesn't work on iPhone :D | 14:49 | |
kbringard | haha, indeed | 14:49 |
Razique | kbringard: true | 14:49 |
kbringard | or, put your API on an external URL | 14:49 |
* Razique wonders if installing openstack into an openstack's instance would cause a blackhole | 14:50 | |
kbringard | ooOOoo, I've not tried it on iPad yet | 14:50 |
* kbringard does that | 14:50 | |
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notmyname | Razique: I think that's openstack inception, and, like the movie, it just makes everything really slow | 14:51 |
Razique | mmm it is possible, I should try to prevent customers to do that | 14:52 |
Razique | :D | 14:52 |
kbringard | lol, that'd be funny, they setup openstack on your openstack and sell it | 14:53 |
kbringard | step 3: Profit! | 14:54 |
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Razique | ahah, openstack provider fail | 14:55 |
nhm | hrm, does swift have any kind of drop-box like functionality? | 14:57 |
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notmyname | nhm: dropbox is a client on top of s3 (and their own storage). swift is like that backend storage. it's up to you to build the dropbox client ;-) | 14:59 |
nhm | notmyname: yeah, I was wondering if there was some kind of officially supported project to do so. | 15:00 |
notmyname | nhm: or are you talking about write-only access? | 15:00 |
nhm | notmyname: I saw that SDSC is doing something like dropbox on top of swift for their 5.5PB cloud. | 15:01 |
notmyname | ya | 15:01 |
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nhm | notmyname: I've got a cactus-era swift deployed here already. | 15:01 |
notmyname | I think the lesson is: write a cool client and watch the VC money rain down on you :-) | 15:01 |
nhm | going to upgrade to diablo next week and that would be a nice thing to demo. | 15:01 |
nhm | notmyname: Well, I work for a Supercomputing Institute. ;) | 15:02 |
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nhm | So not much VC money around here, though I managed to get us a small grant. | 15:02 |
notmyname | nhm: FWIW, you should know that each release of swift us prod-ready. there is no reason to wait so long between upgrades. all of the swift releases between cactus and diablo are stable | 15:02 |
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kbringard | hmmm, looks like the concurrent db connections got upped in diablo… so upping the default max_connections in mysql from 100 is a good idea if you have more than a few compute nodes | 15:03 |
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nhm | notmyname: It had more to do with me being in charge of a new lustre deployment, helping write a GPU cluster RFP, and dealing with other random fires. ;) | 15:04 |
notmyname | nhm: one possiblility (as Razique brought up) is to use the Rackspace iPhone app to interact with your swift clister | 15:04 |
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notmyname | nhm: ya, I realize there are many other reasons to not upgrade right away. just wanted to make sure that you know that swift is ready for you when you get to it :-) | 15:05 |
Razique | mm about that | 15:06 |
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Razique | the app is cool | 15:06 |
Razique | but renaming a server makes it hang :D | 15:06 |
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Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2541/ | 15:07 |
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notmyname | Razique: in the iPhone app? | 15:07 |
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Razique | yah ahah | 15:08 |
kbringard | ah, the lazy load | 15:08 |
Razique | but the operation worked though | 15:08 |
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Razique | ok cool app, but not that useful :D | 15:09 |
Razique | to me I mean | 15:09 |
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kbringard | Razique: yea, like I said, neat for a demo of your cloud, but personally I don't have a lot of use for such a thing | 15:11 |
kbringard | but it's the sort of thing suits go ape crazy for | 15:11 |
Razique | yup, just to show to your bosses that you worked, that's it | 15:11 |
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Razique | :p | 15:11 |
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notmyname | not sure what to say about that. under settings->about this app there is contact info for the dev (and the code location). perhaps a bug can be filed? | 15:13 |
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kbringard | if you get a stack trace in nova from it, then there's more going on that just a bug in the app (obviously) | 15:13 |
kbringard | but the app should handle whatever happened without crashing, I'd say | 15:14 |
heckj | Razique - what app? Sorry, missed the scroll back? | 15:15 |
Razique | hi heckj | 15:15 |
kbringard | heckj: the rackspace iPhone app | 15:15 |
Razique | the rackspace one | 15:15 |
heckj | Yeah, I've done some work on that - what's the question or problem? | 15:15 |
Razique | it keeps hanging with the cactus release | 15:15 |
heckj | Are you using the latest release that just came out (2.1 I think)? | 15:16 |
Razique | I try to rename a server with the app, and i've that error http://paste.openstack.org/show/2541/ | 15:16 |
Razique | yup kbringard told me about the iPhone app, so I just downloaded it | 15:16 |
heckj | Got it… just a sec | 15:16 |
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Razique | ahha apple are crazy, here is how the autocorrect works : Rackspace -> backspace ; iphone -> iPhone | 15:17 |
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heckj | Yeah, it's definitely something awry in how they're using the API. | 15:17 |
Razique | what awry means heckj ? | 15:18 |
heckj | They're broken using some aspect of the API | 15:18 |
Razique | ah ok | 15:18 |
heckj | Razique: The project that Mike and crew are working on is at https://github.com/rackspace/rackspace-ios - Definitely open an issue there (I don't think he's using launchpad for that) at https://github.com/rackspace/rackspace-ios/issues/new | 15:20 |
heckj | I pinged Mike (greenisus) to ask if he'd seen that traceback before - hopefully so. | 15:22 |
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Razique | and voila https://github.com/rackspace/rackspace-ios/issues/24 | 15:27 |
Razique | :) | 15:27 |
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koolhead17 | heckj: hello | 15:30 |
Razique | in which field into the database the server name is stored ? | 15:31 |
Razique | ok found it : display_name :) | 15:32 |
Razique | i'm too lazy to use the api to rename then, so a sql query would help, is it ok if I do that directly ? | 15:32 |
kbringard | Razique: sure, that's all the API does anyway, right? ;-) | 15:32 |
Razique | kbringard: thanks, that's what I thought, but wasn't sure :) | 15:33 |
heckj | koolhead17: ola! | 15:33 |
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Razique | time to go home, be back later :) | 15:46 |
Razique | see you all :) | 15:46 |
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ashp | I have a question, and you have to understand that I'm barely above "incompetent idiot" in understanding this stuff. Could I use something like cloudstack to manage as few as two physical boxes? | 15:51 |
ashp | I'm just looking to experiment with and start moving into some kind of internal cloud at work due to compliance issues with data in external clouds. | 15:52 |
kbringard | you can run OpenStack all one one physical node if you want to | 15:52 |
notmyname | ashp: you are looking for compute or storage? (or both?) | 15:52 |
kbringard | notmyname: oh, good point | 15:52 |
ashp | notmyname: compute, I suppose. For storage I assume I could just point to volumes on a netapp. | 15:53 |
ashp | notmyname: That's an open thing however if openstack does something for storage I should know about :) | 15:53 |
ashp | My level of cloud style skills involve 'fire up an instance in ec2', so this is all new to me. | 15:53 |
ashp | Traditionally I would have just used ESX or kvm and created vm's by hand - I'm trying to get beyond that. | 15:53 |
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notmyname | ashp: what kind of storage are you looking for? block-level storage or some place to put backups, snapshots, etc | 15:55 |
notmyname | (ie object-level storage) | 15:56 |
kbringard | ashp: there is a volume storage component (not required) that somewhat emulates EBS volumes, and there is an object storage component that would be akin to S3 | 15:56 |
ashp | notmyname: Some place to store the images for the vm's and hypothetically something similar to EBS. | 15:56 |
ashp | Currently we don't do anything that uses/requires an object store but that doesn't mean in the future the developers wouldn't love something like that. | 15:56 |
ashp | For a bit of background I just started here and it's a very traditional place with lots of servers built on physical hardware and old fashioned engineering. | 15:56 |
notmyname | ashp: nova has a volume api for block-level stoage. and there is an openstack project called swift that is for object storage | 15:56 |
ashp | I am attempting to do my bit to kick us into the future by bringing in novel things like automation. | 15:57 |
ashp | nova is the bit that offers 'compute' right? | 15:57 |
notmyname | yes | 15:57 |
ashp | I think my question was answered earlier with the fact it would be usable on as little as a single node | 15:58 |
heckj | ashp: You can do it with the stackops setup, or just a straight up package install | 15:58 |
ashp | While I'm only starting with two physical servers I expect to harass them into growing whatever tiny cloud I put together. | 15:58 |
heckj | ashp: starting with a single node isn't an issue either. | 15:58 |
ashp | I think I'll do some experimentation. I've seen a puppet module drifting around that does openstack installations so I'll probably start with that and expand up from there. | 15:58 |
heckj | ashp: There's puppet and chef both - use whatever you're most familiar with | 15:59 |
ashp | I'll check out stackops as well and start poking around at the Diablo docs. I've probably got a few weeks before the incredibly slow provisioning process spits out some physical machines so I have lots of time to plan. | 15:59 |
ashp | We've been doing all our new development on EC2 so I look forward to being able to offer something similar in house. :) | 16:00 |
heckj | ashp: The good news is you can put the nova components on a machine as small as a laptop if that's most convenient for you. | 16:01 |
ashp | I'll install it on all the dev laptops to punish them | 16:01 |
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mcclurmc | hi guys. just wanted to say that XCP 1.1 has just been released | 16:04 |
mcclurmc | FYI: http://blog.xen.org/index.php/2011/09/23/xcp-1-1-rc1/ | 16:04 |
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B_Night | Hi guys | 16:06 |
B_Night | I have an issue with swift | 16:06 |
B_Night | I run this command: curl -v -H 'X-Storage-User: test:tester' -H 'X-Storage-Pass: testing' http://127.0.0.1:8080/auth/v1.0 | 16:06 |
B_Night | I get a response from my swift-proxy | 16:06 |
B_Night | > GET /auth/v1.0 HTTP/1.1 > User-Agent: curl/7.19.7 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8k zlib/1.2.3.3 libidn/1.15 > Host: 127.0.0.1:8080 > Accept: */* > X-Auth-User: test:tester > X-Auth-Pass: testing | 16:07 |
B_Night | but there is no X-Auth-Token passed by swift-proxy | 16:07 |
B_Night | ? | 16:07 |
notmyname | that's actually the request, not the response | 16:07 |
notmyname | you see it because you are using the -v switch on curl | 16:07 |
notmyname | use -i instead | 16:08 |
B_Night | so with -i I don`t get any response from swift-proxy | 16:08 |
koolhead17 | Am trying to run python run_tests.py http://paste.ubuntu.com/695697/ | 16:09 |
koolhead17 | do/am i supposed to file a bug? | 16:09 |
notmyname | B_Night: can you paste what you are seeing (paste.openstack.org) | 16:09 |
ashp | Is openstack tied as closely to ubuntu as the wiki docs make it look? We normally use RHEL6 here. | 16:10 |
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ashp | I stumbled over http://yum.griddynamics.net/yum/master/openstack/ so maybe it won't be too bad. | 16:11 |
B_Night | notmyname: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2544/ | 16:11 |
koolhead17 | ashp: have you seen that for first time | 16:11 |
B_Night | this is my proxy-server conf | 16:11 |
B_Night | and also the curl command that I run | 16:11 |
ashp | koolhead17: what? | 16:11 |
B_Night | I use http://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html as reference | 16:11 |
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koolhead17 | the wiki | 16:12 |
notmyname | B_Night: do you see anything in the proxy logs (syslog, probably)? | 16:13 |
B_Night | no nothing | 16:13 |
notmyname | B_Night: I'd think you should be getting something back (probably an error). I suspect the "use" line in the auth filter section of the proxy conf | 16:14 |
B_Night | unfortunatlly i don`t get any errors | 16:14 |
koolhead17 | B_Night: i need help too :P | 16:15 |
notmyname | B_Night: what version of swift are you using? what auth system? | 16:15 |
B_Night | i use swift 1.4.3 i think | 16:16 |
B_Night | no i use swift 1.2.0 | 16:16 |
notmyname | ah. that's quite an old version | 16:16 |
B_Night | swift 1.2.0-0ubuntu1~lucid0 A distributed virtual object store ( | 16:16 |
notmyname | B_Night: so then is the auth server running (ps -ef | grep auth) | 16:17 |
B_Night | no | 16:17 |
B_Night | I don`t have auth server running | 16:17 |
notmyname | that's the error then | 16:17 |
B_Night | acutally I don`t have an auth-server.conf | 16:17 |
B_Night | I will check the documentation for 1.2 verison of swift | 16:17 |
notmyname | you should look at the 1.2 docs then. http://swift.openstack.org/1.2/development_saio.html | 16:17 |
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B_Night | notmyname i check 1.2 docs I install swift-auth and run it | 16:29 |
B_Night | however swift-auth-add-user -K devauth -a test tester testing | 16:29 |
B_Night | hangs | 16:29 |
notmyname | honestly, it's been a long time since I've messed with the auth server. is there are reason you aren't running more recent code? | 16:30 |
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B_Night | that`s just what I get when installing swift with apt-get | 16:33 |
notmyname | hmm..that's a problem | 16:34 |
B_Night | maybe I need to get additional repository for newer version in apt | 16:34 |
B_Night | I also try to use swauth instead | 16:34 |
notmyname | B_Night: mtaylor can set you straight on which repo to use to get the most recent code | 16:34 |
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mtaylor | hi B_Night | 16:35 |
notmyname | B_Night: 1.4.3 doesn't include swauth. it includes tempauth which is good for POC and dev. | 16:35 |
mtaylor | B_Night: what repo are you using? | 16:35 |
B_Night | let me check | 16:35 |
B_Night | http://ppa.launchpad.net/swift-core/ppa/ubuntu lucid main | 16:36 |
B_Night | so if I want to use 1.4.3 version of swift what version should I use | 16:36 |
mtaylor | oh. yeah - that's deprecated | 16:36 |
mtaylor | change ppa in that line to release | 16:37 |
mtaylor | and that will get you the latest release | 16:37 |
mtaylor | so: | 16:37 |
mtaylor | http://ppa.launchpad.net/swift-core/release/ubuntu lucid main | 16:37 |
mtaylor | or you can just do: add-apt-repository ppa:swift-core/release | 16:37 |
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B_Night | ok thanks for that info | 16:39 |
koolhead17 | ziyadb: hi | 16:40 |
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koolhead17 | mtaylor: B_Night could you guys mind spending fewm inutes and expalining me about the keystone authentication dashboard and nova | 16:45 |
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koolhead17 | i have keystone installed from githum | 16:45 |
koolhead17 | now installing dashboard | 16:45 |
koolhead17 | *github | 16:45 |
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B_Night | koolhead17: I never try to run this dashboard I use euca2tools and hybridfox instead | 16:46 |
koolhead17 | i also came across with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/695697/ | 16:46 |
koolhead17 | B_Night: ok | 16:47 |
koolhead17 | ./ | 16:47 |
heckj | koolhead17: Ah yeah, complications with keystone | 16:47 |
koolhead17 | heckj: am installing dashboard now | 16:47 |
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heckj | Dashboard directly uses keystone - it's very dependent upon it. | 16:48 |
koolhead17 | i was wondering where do i put information about nova ? is there some keystone configuration file or sumthing | 16:48 |
heckj | Razique: greenisus said an update was coming shortly that used the Openstack 1.1 API for the IOS apps. | 16:48 |
dolphm | koolhead17: keystone configuration file is probably in /etc/keystone.conf | 16:48 |
heckj | koolhead17: you need to configure keystone with sample data that's appropriate to your environment so that dashboard knows where to look for things. | 16:49 |
heckj | koolhead17: here's an example (from devstack): https://github.com/cloudbuilders/devstack/blob/master/files/keystone_data.sh | 16:49 |
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Razique | heckj: back :) | 16:50 |
Razique | ahah awesome guys, as fast as light | 16:50 |
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koolhead17 | dolphm: ok | 16:51 |
koolhead17 | i have not configured anything anywer | 16:51 |
heckj | Razique: not so fast as all that - Mike has the change ready to roll for the raw code, but it won't be hitting the release application for a while - that's a bit more time consuming getting through the apple approval process for the app update | 16:51 |
koolhead17 | and am getting soome silly swift related error on dashboard | 16:51 |
koolhead17 | :P | 16:51 |
Razique | heckj: that I know Apple's validation processes can take a while | 16:51 |
koolhead17 | heckj: thanks let me try | 16:52 |
Razique | does the 1.1 api have functionnal volumes backup (as presented into the app) ? | 16:52 |
heckj | Razique: don't know - haven't looked in a while | 16:52 |
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koolhead17 | heckj: you mean i have to run all those command before i open my dashboard :D | 16:57 |
ivoks | has anyone tried d4->diablo upgrade? | 16:57 |
koolhead17 | ivoks: not me atleast :P | 16:57 |
heckj | koolhead17: If you want the dashboard to know how to interact with Nova, Glance, Keystone, and Swift… yes | 16:57 |
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koolhead17 | heckj: you rock. :D | 16:58 |
ivoks | well, this is what i ended up with: | 16:58 |
ivoks | Unknown column 'instances_1.default_local_device' in 'field list' | 16:58 |
ivoks | kills starting of nova-network | 16:59 |
heckj | ivoks: that's a migrate gone bad. You might try another run of "nova-manage db sync" and see if that resolves... | 16:59 |
ivoks | heckj: that did solve the problem, indeed :) | 17:00 |
ivoks | thanks | 17:00 |
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Razique | koolhead17: your dashboard works now ? :) | 17:01 |
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koolhead17 | Razique: nopes but i got the reciepe | 17:01 |
koolhead17 | have my fingures crossed | 17:02 |
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B_Night | Razique: did you know how I should connect cyberduck to swift ? | 17:05 |
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Razique | B_Night : I don't use swift, sorry :( | 17:10 |
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heckj | B_Night: there's a wiki page somewhere that documents the process - there's some tweaking you need to do with the authentication stuff | 17:11 |
heckj | B_Night: Ah, here we are: http://swift.openstack.org/howto_cyberduck.html | 17:11 |
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koolhead17 | heckj: will you be around for sometime? | 17:13 |
* Razique really needs to go into swift | 17:13 | |
heckj | koolhead17: only a few more minutes - have to run off to meetings shortly | 17:14 |
koolhead17 | heckj: ok. i will read up the script and in case am stuck will poke yo later. thanks again. the script seems very useful. i really need to understand that endpoint funda | 17:15 |
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Razique | koolhead17: I l missed that part, is there any usefull script around? :p | 17:16 |
koolhead17 | Razique: https://github.com/cloudbuilders/devstack/blob/master/files/keystone_data.sh | 17:17 |
koolhead17 | these guys have put in commands here for keystone authentication | 17:17 |
Tsel | Hi guys, just installing nova and was wondering if anyone could look at my nova.conf see if something like this would work http://paste.ubuntu.com/695741/ | 17:18 |
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Razique | Tsel: mm why are you bridgind the main interface ? | 17:19 |
Razique | the nova.conf seems good, but there is no need to bridge | 17:19 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #857580 in nova "reclaim_instance_interval must be re-declared to use in OSAPI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857580 | 17:21 |
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Tsel | I wasn't sure if I needed to have a bridge. Originally I had bridge on second interface but I was running on issues so I thought this might help. If I don't need a bridge I would remove then. Thanks. | 17:22 |
Razique | Tsel: yep, the bridges are automatically mounted by nova | 17:22 |
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Tsel | ahh, that answers another question I had. Thank you. | 17:25 |
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Razique | in fact I wonder if in flat mode the bridges are used | 17:33 |
kbringard | Razique: how do you mean? | 17:34 |
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Razique | mmmm as far as I recall depending on your network conf, the behaviour changes | 17:34 |
Razique | why would nova-network create a bridge for flat / flat-dhcp modes ? | 17:35 |
Razique | ohhh yah, in fact, it needs to create a bridge yah : in flat modes, it is required that you have a dhcp server on your network | 17:37 |
kbringard | well, in flatDHCP it is ;-) | 17:37 |
Razique | in flat dhcp it's nova which provides ip, while in flat, it doesn't | 17:37 |
kbringard | correct | 17:37 |
Razique | ok, i'm in vlan mode, and I think bridges are created | 17:38 |
Razique | mmm why ? | 17:38 |
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kbringard | I think you can monkey with the nova-dhcpbridge to make nova get the right info for tracking from a different dhcp server | 17:38 |
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kbringard | well, you need an interface for each network in vlan mode | 17:39 |
Razique | ahh true true :) | 17:40 |
kbringard | that then bridges through to whatever physical interface you route out | 17:40 |
Razique | that was the part I was missing, thanks mr reminder | 17:40 |
kbringard | hehe, np | 17:40 |
kbringard | same concept with FlatDHCP, except you only need one bridge, because it's only one, flat, network | 17:41 |
Razique | I had to play around the vlan_interface a while back, it was related to that :) | 17:41 |
Razique | vlan are linked to a project right ? one project equals one vlan ? | 17:42 |
kbringard | yeap | 17:42 |
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kbringard | that's how you segregate project traffic in vlan mode | 17:42 |
kbringard | and, obviously, give each project it's own CIDR | 17:42 |
Razique | yup, exactly | 17:43 |
kbringard | some people argue that VLAN isn't scalable, though | 17:43 |
kbringard | because there is a hard limit to how many you can have | 17:43 |
kbringard | limiting how many projects you can have | 17:43 |
Razique | mmm i think it's one byte for the vlans | 17:43 |
Razique | so 255 vlans | 17:43 |
kbringard | well, it depends on your hardware | 17:44 |
kbringard | 'cause you can tag your packets with almost whatever you want | 17:44 |
Razique | Oh I was totally wrong | 17:44 |
Razique | Linux has a limit of 4096 vlans | 17:45 |
kbringard | yea | 17:45 |
kbringard | so you can only have up to 4k VLANs on a single network controller | 17:45 |
kbringard | then you have to figure out a way to scale past that | 17:45 |
kbringard | I think RackSpace does it by creating zone like huddles | 17:46 |
Razique | good to know | 17:47 |
Razique | is huddles a tech ? | 17:47 |
Razique | does nova supports multi interfaces ? | 17:47 |
kbringard | in a VM? | 17:47 |
Razique | don't think so :D | 17:47 |
kbringard | yea, it does in Diablo | 17:47 |
Razique | I mean, actually, you dedicate a physical interace which handles vlan | 17:47 |
kbringard | although I've not messed with it much, so I'm not sure the nuances of it | 17:47 |
Razique | suppose you want more vlans | 17:47 |
kbringard | oh, so like vlan_interface1=eth1 vlan_interface2=eth2, etc? | 17:48 |
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Razique | yup :) | 17:50 |
kbringard | not as far as I know | 17:50 |
kbringard | but, I'm certainly no nova networking guru | 17:50 |
Razique | mmm I have time, don't have 4096 clients yet :D | 17:50 |
kbringard | hehe, sure, but switching out the network type later will require some pretty hefty downtime and I'm not sure you'd want to do it | 17:51 |
kbringard | I'd ask some rackers if they can talk about how they handle it | 17:51 |
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kbringard | but I think they basically have multiple installs | 17:52 |
kbringard | it's more complicated than that, but my understanding is that's the gist of it | 17:52 |
Razique | yah, maybe you could deploy several nova-network instances | 17:52 |
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Razique | atm I don't have several instances of a given component, but soon i'l lhave another nova-volumes deployed :) | 17:54 |
Razique | i should try in the lab (that I don't have yet) two nova-networks | 17:54 |
Tsel | sorry to intrude, would there be a benefit to selecting vlan over flat, like in scalability or ease of manage, the likes? | 17:55 |
kbringard | Tsel: there are plusses and minuses to each | 17:55 |
kbringard | a lot of people believe that implementing layer 2 in your cloud is an archaic and dying way to do things | 17:56 |
Razique | ohh I had another question | 17:56 |
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Razique | how do u manage you networks ? | 17:57 |
kbringard | and there are definitely scalability issues to work around, as Razique and I were just discussing | 17:57 |
kbringard | both to vlan in general, and in implementing it in OpenStack | 17:58 |
Razique | Tsel: we wanted the vlan mode because we wanted to have an isolated network per client | 17:58 |
kbringard | for instance, in vlan mode, you predefine networks | 17:58 |
Razique | the counterpart is the hardware, you need to make sure your switches let pass tagged packets | 17:58 |
Razique | or at least have a match between the vlans conf in your switches in accordance to the nova vlans | 17:59 |
kbringard | so if someone needs 200 IPs, but you only made their network with 128 | 17:59 |
kbringard | then you have to monkey around to resolve that | 17:59 |
kbringard | whereas with flat, you just have one big network space that everyone shares (like at amazon) | 18:00 |
rlucio | kpepple: i see xcp 1.1rc *finally* came out today | 18:00 |
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kbringard | and instead of being segregated with vlans, it does ebtables and nwfilter magic | 18:00 |
Razique | kbringard: true | 18:01 |
rlucio | kpepple: by chance do you know where the changelist is? | 18:01 |
Tsel | ok, makes sense. thanks. | 18:01 |
Razique | Tsel: per vlan I've a /16 network, so I won't bother later | 18:01 |
kbringard | that's a nice big space, but remember | 18:02 |
kbringard | that means that you're allocating an entire /16 to each project | 18:02 |
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kbringard | so you may have a lot of wasted IP space | 18:02 |
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Razique | still I don't know the subtles things about network_size vs num_networks ^^ | 18:03 |
kbringard | but, given that it seems you can only have 4k VLANs on a linux machine, you should be fine | 18:03 |
kbringard | Razique: me either, I need to figure that out… I think it's Flat/DHCP related | 18:04 |
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kbringard | but the only reference I can find to that 4k limit is for 2.4 kernels, so it may be upped by now | 18:07 |
Razique | ok :p I tried to understand the difference, but I never found a precise doc, still, let me know if you figure :) | 18:07 |
* kbringard isn't a kernel hacker :-) | 18:07 | |
Razique | in fact it's not related to the 2.4 kernel | 18:09 |
Razique | BUT to the 802.1Q standard | 18:09 |
kbringard | ah, there you go | 18:09 |
Razique | which allows you to dedicate up to 16 bytes for the vlan field | 18:10 |
Razique | 16 bits | 18:10 |
Razique | my bad | 18:10 |
kbringard | haha, yea | 18:10 |
kbringard | 16 bytes would be a lot of vlans ;-) | 18:10 |
Razique | ahah image a 16 bytes packet | 18:10 |
Razique | imagine* | 18:10 |
Razique | violent une b | 18:12 |
Razique | oups wrong window | 18:12 |
kbringard | ok, lunch time, bbiab | 18:12 |
Razique | oki, cya man | 18:12 |
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Razique | back | 18:14 |
Razique | for readers, sorry, it's not 16 but 12 bits | 18:14 |
Razique | (regarding the VLAN tags) | 18:14 |
Razique | cya :D | 18:14 |
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rmk | Has anyone tried durable rabbit queues yet? | 18:14 |
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g2_ | Hi all: I have a question about assigning a fixed-ip to an instance. | 18:27 |
g2_ | AFAIU In Diablo a new feature got added so that I can specify the fixed IP address while launching an instance. How do I use this feature? | 18:29 |
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g2_ | I see that in nova-client, there is a command like "nova add-fixed-ip <server> <network_id>". Its this related? | 18:30 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #857631 in glance "postinstall script for Oneiric has syntax error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857631 | 18:32 |
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kpepple | rlucio: nova's is at https://launchpad.net/nova/diablo/2011.3 -- and yes, release candidate is out. hoping for prod soon. | 18:41 |
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kpepple | rlucio: oh, xcp changelist -- no | 18:45 |
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Vinsh_HP | Hello vishy. I noticed in comment number 1 on this bug https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/169804 that you refer to the reporter using a deprecated auth method. Where would I learn about what the new auth method is? Where are the new features like that and their use described at? | 18:49 |
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vishy | the default method is noauth right now | 18:52 |
vishy | since keystone is not quite ready for release yet | 18:52 |
Vinsh_HP | Ah-hah | 18:52 |
cloudnewb01 | hey guys quick question that is causing me to lose hair | 18:52 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: this might help http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Diablo | 18:52 |
joesavak | must be newb if you still have hair | 18:53 |
cloudnewb01 | does openstack diable come bundled with a web UI from the scripted install | 18:53 |
vishy | cloudnewb01: nope | 18:53 |
Vinsh_HP | vishy, Thanks for the clarification. Perfect, I'll digest those Release Notes. Thanks again. | 18:53 |
cloudnewb01 | ahh | 18:53 |
WormMan | I'd say something snarky about having no supported auth in a 'release' :) | 18:53 |
cloudnewb01 | damn | 18:53 |
cloudnewb01 | thought they integrated dashboard in this release | 18:53 |
vishy | WormMan: hey we support old-style auth | 18:53 |
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cloudnewb01 | anyone know a stable tag to pull for opendash? | 18:53 |
vishy | in fact, it defaults on in the packages | 18:53 |
WormMan | vishy: yes, once I realized why my users had way too may privs | 18:53 |
WormMan | of course, I have D4 running, not D | 18:54 |
WormMan | so I had to find my own flags | 18:54 |
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NashTrash_ | Hello Openstack'ers | 19:07 |
NashTrash_ | I have a problem I hope you can help me with | 19:07 |
NashTrash_ | A sudden power loss killed off a number of nova compute nodes and my nova-network machine. | 19:07 |
NashTrash_ | BTW I am running Diablo-3 | 19:08 |
NashTrash_ | The instances seem to mostly come back up, but for some reason my nova-network machine can not seem to connect to the VM network | 19:08 |
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NashTrash_ | I can not ping or anything to any of the VMs | 19:09 |
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vishy | NashTrash_: vlan mode? | 19:14 |
NashTrash_ | #vishy flat_dhcp | 19:14 |
vishy | if you do an ip addr | 19:14 |
vishy | do you see the gateway address on nova-network? | 19:15 |
vishy | (10.0.0.1 by default) | 19:15 |
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NashTrash_ | #vishy My VM subnet is 192.168.51.X. 192.168.51.1 is present in ip addr and associated with the br100 interface | 19:16 |
NashTrash_ | 8: br100: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/ether 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.51.1/24 brd 192.168.51.255 scope global br100 inet6 fe80::7461:f8ff:fe99:7331/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever | 19:16 |
vishy | that is your vm network? 51.0/24? | 19:16 |
NashTrash_ | yes | 19:17 |
vishy | ok brctl show | 19:17 |
vishy | is the bridge bridged into an eth device? | 19:17 |
NashTrash_ | br1008000.000000000000no | 19:17 |
NashTrash_ | The bridge is on my eth2 | 19:17 |
vishy | and is that eth device the right one? I've noticed that they can switch on reboot | 19:17 |
vishy | and the vms are bridged in as well? | 19:18 |
NashTrash_ | eth0 is my public interface while eth2 is for the VM side. Which should br100 be associated with? | 19:18 |
vishy | eth2 | 19:18 |
vishy | can you ping 192.168.51.1 from the vms? | 19:18 |
vishy | does eth2 have an address on it? | 19:18 |
NashTrash_ | I can not get to any VM right now. | 19:19 |
NashTrash_ | Let me just double check. Eth0 has our public IP. eth2 has 50.1 address. br100 has 51.1. | 19:20 |
NashTrash_ | the 50.X network is our management interface | 19:20 |
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NashTrash_ | #vishy In nova.conf we have --flat_interface=eth2. Is this sufficient? | 19:21 |
katkee | hi, i would like to bind rabbitmq on a specific ip on my host but it seems difficult. my host has a public ip and i don't want rabbitmq to be wide open. any suggestions? | 19:22 |
NashTrash_ | #vishy If we do brctl ifadd br100 eth2 we lose all connectivity to the machine via the 50.1 address | 19:25 |
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vishy | it actually goes by your gdatabase | 19:26 |
vishy | so nova-network is supposed to move the bridge onto the interface for you when it comes up | 19:27 |
vishy | you might try deleting br100 and restarting nova-network | 19:27 |
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vishy | you can't have an ip on the interface if you add it to a bridge | 19:28 |
NashTrash_ | I ran brctl ifadd br100 eth2 and now brctl show has the two associated, but I still don't have connectivity to anything on 51.X | 19:28 |
NashTrash_ | ah | 19:28 |
NashTrash_ | How do I stop the br100? When I try to delete I get: bridge br100 is still up; can't delete it | 19:29 |
sloop | ifconfig br100 down | 19:30 |
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NashTrash_ | Thanks. Ok, I stopped it. Deleted it. Restarted nova-network. | 19:31 |
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NashTrash_ | br100 is back but still no connectivity to 51.1. brctl shows the bridge but it is not associated with any interface | 19:32 |
vishy | you should check your db | 19:32 |
NashTrash_ | for what? | 19:32 |
vishy | sounds like your network doesn't have eth2 listed | 19:32 |
vishy | as the interface | 19:32 |
NashTrash_ | In the networks table the bridge_interface column is empty. | 19:33 |
NashTrash_ | Should I set it to eth2? | 19:33 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #857671 in keystone "Auth protocol doesn't work properly for admin users" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857671 | 19:33 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #857673 in swift "COPY method fails to handle URL encoding properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857673 | 19:33 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #857675 in openstack-ci "Gerrit should allow replying to comments and/or quoting their contents" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857675 | 19:33 |
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NashTrash_ | Set the column to eth2 and reboot nova-network? | 19:34 |
Vinsh_HP | vishy, Looks like there was no paste.ini generated on my system. Is there a way to generate this? I made sure that in api-paste.ini, the first pipe line s were uncommented.. so noauth is used.. yet I still have ec2 complaining no env variable is set. | 19:35 |
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vishy | aye | 19:35 |
Vinsh_HP | --use_deprecated_auth is set to false also | 19:35 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: how did you install? | 19:36 |
vishy | api-paste.ini is in etc/api-paste.ini | 19:36 |
vishy | or from packages in /etc/api-paste.ini | 19:36 |
Vinsh_HP | I was running diablo( 4)8-28, today I apt-get installed the diablo final version. | 19:36 |
vishy | and there is no /etc/api-paste.ini? | 19:37 |
Vinsh_HP | vishy, Ok, there is /etc/nova/api-paste.ini | 19:37 |
vishy | yeah that one. It should be set to use that in /etc/nova/nova.conf | 19:37 |
vishy | and use_deprecated_auth should be set | 19:37 |
vishy | in the conf file as well | 19:38 |
Vinsh_HP | Ok use_deprecated_auth is set to false.(set that earlier) | 19:38 |
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Vinsh_HP | I need to find the flag that specifies api-paste.ini | 19:38 |
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andyandy_ | I update the packages from : "http://ppa.launchpad.net/nova-core/milestone/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nova" and nova-volumes fails to start with the following error: CRITICAL nova [-] Class VolumeManager could not be found | 19:39 |
andyandy_ | any one having the same problem? | 19:39 |
Vinsh_HP | vishy, When I updated I didn't chose to install the new nova.conf so missed out on some of the new flags. | 19:40 |
andyandy_ | great what are the flags? | 19:40 |
Vinsh_HP | I am looking for the flag in nova.conf I need to use to point to /etc/nova/api-paste.ini to use noauth | 19:40 |
NashTrash_ | #vishy Does nova-network's br100 have to be associated with any particular interface? | 19:41 |
Vinsh_HP | None of the auth flags at http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-authentication-authorization.html seem to make sense | 19:41 |
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Vinsh_HP | andyandy_, Found it.. its "--paste_config" | 19:43 |
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Vinsh_HP | andyandy_, re your volume issue.. did you follow the migration instructions linked off of http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Diablo#Nova ? | 19:44 |
andyandy_ | I used the package from http://ppa.launchpad.net/nova-core/milestone/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nova/ ?? do I still need to follow the Diablo release note | 19:47 |
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vishy | NashTrash_: for multi-machines yes all of the br100s need to be on the same network | 19:49 |
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NashTrash_ | Sorry, but I could really use some additional clarification. | 19:50 |
NashTrash_ | #Vishy my eth2 interface I set as 50.1, while br100 should be 51.1. Should the DB table for the network have eth2 as the bridge_interface value? | 19:51 |
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vishy | yup | 19:52 |
vishy | the code should move the ip for eth2 on to the bridge | 19:53 |
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vishy | add the if to the bridge | 19:53 |
vishy | then add the other ip to the bridge | 19:53 |
NashTrash_ | #Vishy Ok. Let me try it again. | 19:53 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #857711 in glance "min_ram and min_disk shouldn't ever be NULL" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857711 | 20:06 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #857712 in nova "Compute API casting minram None to int fails" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857712 | 20:11 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #857714 in nova "sqlalchemy replies with ResourceClosedError in case of concurrent allocations of IP addresses or volume creations" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857714 | 20:11 |
tjoy | my nova control node isn't responding to dhcp requests. help! | 20:12 |
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vishy | tjoy: version? | 20:24 |
tjoy | D4 | 20:24 |
tjoy | ooh, release yesterday | 20:26 |
tjoy | vishy: do you think this could be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/855210 ? | 20:27 |
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tjoy | oh well. i will work to install the released version and then come back with any other problems | 20:30 |
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vishy | tjoy: yes i do | 20:34 |
vishy | tjoy: if you got the new dnsmasq and didn't get the fix, your ips may be out of order | 20:35 |
vishy | which will stop dnsmasq from responding | 20:35 |
tjoy | oh | 20:35 |
tjoy | sounds like it's time for me to start from scratch then | 20:36 |
tjoy | 'new dnsmasq' being a particular dnsmasq version? | 20:37 |
tjoy | configuration file reads '3, 4, 8, 5' and my dnsmasq version is 2.57 | 20:38 |
tjoy | ok | 20:38 |
g2_ | Hi all: I have a question about assigning a fixed-ip to an instance. | 20:40 |
g2_ | How can I specify a fixed IP address at the time I launch an instance. | 20:40 |
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kbringard | does routing_source_ip need to be set on the compute nodes as well as the network? | 20:59 |
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harlowja | is there anyway to use openstack/nova-manage/euca to set limits on network i/o and/or view the current limits and txn rates? | 21:00 |
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harlowja | i see quotas for ram, cores, instances... but nothing for i/o rate limiting | 21:02 |
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NashTrash_ | #vishy Thanks for the help. Setting the DB entry correctly and a nice full reboot got things working. You rock. | 21:23 |
vishy | yw | 21:23 |
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NashTrash_ | bye ya'll | 21:25 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #857778 in nova "nova api v1.0 call serializing xml has no attributes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857778 | 21:26 |
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rmk | Is anyone using the Cactus dashboard with diablo? | 21:31 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #857784 in openstack-ci "Gerrit should support case insenstive author email checks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/857784 | 21:31 |
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nhm | wow, cloudfuse+swift sounds nice. | 21:54 |
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tjoy | does openstack have a mascot? i need to make an addition to my voodoo doll collection | 22:08 |
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Vinsh_HP | tjoy, Time for some target practice? ;) | 22:10 |
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sgd | Hi all, we're having trouble bringing up an ubuntu instance with a public IP. We have been allocated IPs by IT, and have tried configuring the network using nova.network.manager.NetworkManager, but the OS in the instance has no eth0 interface. We are looking for help. | 22:14 |
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tjoy | sgd: seems like a hypervisor problem. can you post some logs for us to view? | 22:19 |
tjoy | also do you mean VLanManager? | 22:19 |
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tjoy | nova.network.manager.NetworkManager isn't a real network manager, you should choose something like flatDHCP or vlan.managed | 22:20 |
sgd | We have tried using .FlatManager, which did not work. We most recently tried .NetworkManager, and in this case the instance failed to boot. Our host's interface is not the default br100; it is virbr0. That could be an issue. | 22:21 |
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sgd | Is there a way to specify the name of the bridge interface? | 22:24 |
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vishy | .NetworkManager | 22:25 |
vishy | is a base class | 22:25 |
harlowja | nova-manage network create --help has a opetion for | 22:26 |
harlowja | --bridge=<bridge> VIFs on this network are connected to this bridge | 22:26 |
harlowja | --bridge_interface=<bridge interface> | 22:26 |
harlowja | the bridge is connected to this interface | 22:26 |
vishy | sgd: when you create the network you can specify the interface | 22:26 |
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vishy | as harlow points out above | 22:26 |
sgd | thank you, I will try it | 22:27 |
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salv | danwent: you here | 22:30 |
salv | bhall: are you around? | 22:30 |
danwent | salv: hey | 22:30 |
danwent | just sent an email | 22:30 |
salv | Not yet checked email | 22:30 |
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salv | Anyway, I had a better look at nova's quantum manager | 22:30 |
bhall | I'm here | 22:31 |
salv | I think the problem with attachment id occurs only if I preallocate ports on the dashboard (or with the quantum cli) | 22:31 |
salv | is that correct? | 22:31 |
danwent | summary: I feel like the empty string isn't very clean, but if we think this is a likely bug for people to trip on, we can use it for 1.0 version of the API | 22:31 |
danwent | salv: yes, exactly | 22:31 |
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salv | good. We know there are already issues with the dashboard | 22:31 |
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danwent | standard model is that quantum manager will create / delete all quantum ports | 22:32 |
danwent | which is why no one that I know of using QM has tripped on this yet | 22:32 |
salv | Since we already know that there are issues with the dashboard, such as the fact that networks created in the dashboard are ignored by nova | 22:32 |
danwent | yeah, dashboard model is busted. | 22:33 |
danwent | someone could still trying to play with the cli | 22:33 |
salv | I think we can probably settle down on the API as it is, changing only the return code for create operations | 22:33 |
salv | danwent: right. the cli. | 22:33 |
danwent | haha, this is pretty funny. one probably would have guessed that we would be arguing opposite points here :) | 22:33 |
salv | The fact is that I'd love to have a fully functioning Quantum Manager, but I'm afraid on a Friday night I would miss some side effect | 22:34 |
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danwent | but there's no way to use the CLI and get IPAM right now, unless you use melange, which isnt' even checked in | 22:34 |
salv | of changing the behaviour of the API | 22:34 |
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salv | so can we say that with the current integration between quantum and nova, explicitly using the cli is a bit of a no-brainer? | 22:34 |
danwent | salv: which change are you talking about? the 202 -> 200 or the attachment id? | 22:34 |
salv | the attachment id | 22:35 |
danwent | ok, that's what I thought | 22:35 |
danwent | yeah, we can clarify that in the docs. | 22:35 |
danwent | to be honest, if you used the CLI to delete a port that QM had created, I suspect that would cause problems as well. | 22:35 |
salv | I think let's leave this (the att-id) as 'known issue' | 22:35 |
salv | in release notes | 22:35 |
danwent | QM hasn't had a lot of negative testing yet :) | 22:35 |
danwent | salv: agreed | 22:36 |
salv | fine, do we anybody from Cisco team online to get their opinion? | 22:36 |
danwent | bhall: can you file something to think through these cases a bit more and fix QM where necessary? | 22:36 |
bhall | sure | 22:36 |
danwent | salv: tyler already reviewed the changes and approved, I believe. let me check. | 22:37 |
salv | yeah, he did | 22:37 |
danwent | and tyler is testing the current code… still waiting on him for a thumbs up | 22:37 |
salv | also, he made those changes into the Cisco plugin. I'm not sure they were necessary actually. | 22:37 |
bhall | they weren't | 22:37 |
bhall | it was just to be consistent | 22:37 |
bhall | since the standard api is returning a 200, their extensions might as well too | 22:37 |
salv | Ok, let's wait for an all-clear from Tyler's tests. I'm going to reject my MP and approve Brad's one. | 22:38 |
salv | bhall: agreed, make sense | 22:38 |
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bhall | salv: Can I edit your bug and then we'll split the two? 202/attid | 22:38 |
salv | Yeah, go ahead, and also attach your branch to the bug. | 22:38 |
bhall | k | 22:38 |
danwent | btw salv, thanks so much for the testing. all of our testing had been with the new branch that had been updated, and I didn't realize that there was a critical difference between that and what was shipping with nova diablo :) | 22:39 |
salv | np. I should have done that a few days earlier actually. | 22:39 |
danwent | much better late than never :) | 22:40 |
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danwent | Ok, anything else we need to sync on? | 22:40 |
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salv | No I think that is all. I will be around for another our or so should you need me. | 22:41 |
salv | I meant to write 'hour' | 22:41 |
danwent | working on quantum late on a friday… you're a trooper salv :) | 22:42 |
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salv | Well I took the afternoon off... :) | 22:42 |
danwent | Ok, i'll wait for tyler to give a thumbs up from the cisco side, then we can wrap this up | 22:42 |
bhall | I thought he did already? | 22:42 |
danwent | bhall: I asked him to run the tests with the full lp:quantum/diablo branch, just to be sure. | 22:43 |
danwent | (or maybe you've seen a recent email that I haven't) | 22:43 |
bhall | oh, I didn't see your email about that | 22:43 |
bhall | n/m | 22:43 |
danwent | just got a mail from tyler… one more tiny tweak. | 22:45 |
bhall | danwent: did you see that tyler just made anotehr change? | 22:45 |
danwent | just in the cisco plugin though | 22:45 |
bhall | eh.. beat me to it.. ok | 22:45 |
salv | looks just another 202 replaced with 200 | 22:45 |
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danwent | yeah, but the diff looks like crap b/c its stacked on the docs changes. Should still merge cleanly though. | 22:46 |
salv | ah ah more than 15K lines | 22:46 |
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danwent | yeah, his diff was 2 lines :) | 22:48 |
bhall | while I have you both here... did we need to tackle this bug before the release: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/855152? | 22:48 |
danwent | this needs to happen before the keystone release | 22:48 |
danwent | which is still several weeks off. | 22:48 |
bhall | ooh, right | 22:48 |
bhall | ok | 22:48 |
danwent | salv: correct me if I am wrong, but I believe we never removed the keystone options from the config files | 22:49 |
danwent | but its not a big deal because it is disabled by default? | 22:49 |
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salv | oh, I though Somik took care of that. Anyway it is disabled by default. | 22:49 |
danwent | salv: yeah, no worries. I think it was just a miscommunication. | 22:49 |
salv | Ops, he assigned the bug to me | 22:49 |
salv | I feel ashamed | 22:50 |
danwent | salv: seriously… not a big deal at all. | 22:50 |
danwent | we'll just bump it to essex. | 22:50 |
danwent | Ok, i need to run in a couple minutes to give a talk. after that, i'll re-run the tests one last time and push the release. sound good? | 22:50 |
salv | just give me a couple of mins | 22:50 |
salv | ok fine | 22:51 |
danwent | salv: its up to you | 22:51 |
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danwent | but definitely done feel obliged.. its definitely fine left in there, as it is disabled. | 22:51 |
danwent | I will be back in about half an hour | 22:51 |
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Vinsh_HP | vishy, So, going back to the auth methods in diablo-final.. I still can't get around the messages that suggest I set an ec2_access key or provide a user name. | 22:55 |
Vinsh_HP | I added this to nova.conf --paste_config=/etc/nova/api-paste.ini | 22:56 |
tjoy | Is there interest in a detailed case study of deploying OpenStack on 32-bit hardware? | 22:57 |
Vinsh_HP | in api-paste.ini I uncommented out the lines used with "noauth" and commented out the lines for the old method. | 22:57 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: and --use_deprecated_auth? | 22:57 |
Vinsh_HP | I had "--use_deprecated_auth=false" | 22:57 |
Vinsh_HP | but that didn't help | 22:57 |
salv | bhall, danwent: fix for Bug #855151 proposed for merge | 22:57 |
vishy | um | 22:57 |
vishy | you want it to be true | 22:57 |
vishy | if you are trying to use old auth... | 22:57 |
bhall | salv: ok, lemme look | 22:58 |
Vinsh_HP | vishy, no, I want to just try this with the no auth | 22:58 |
vishy | oh | 22:58 |
vishy | gotcha | 22:58 |
Vinsh_HP | Thats why I uncommented out the first line of the paste file | 22:58 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: I'm with you now | 22:58 |
vishy | and how are you setting your secret and access key? | 22:59 |
vishy | and endpoint? | 22:59 |
Vinsh_HP | By endpoint do you mean ec2 and openstack endpoints? | 22:59 |
vishy | aye | 23:00 |
bhall | salv: I'll review it in about 30m | 23:00 |
Vinsh_HP | vishy, Those are specified in nova.conf as usual such as "--ec2_url=http://x.x.x.x:8773/services/Cloud | 23:00 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: so generally the easiest is to create a user and project and do the old nova-manage project environment to export an rc file | 23:00 |
salv | bhall: ok, I might be sleeping by that time. I forgot I'm in CET not BST :) Ping me anyway if you need assistance. | 23:01 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: then you can change the access key or the username and project to anything and it should still work | 23:01 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: otherwise you'll need to set all the values manually | 23:01 |
Vinsh_HP | when I export that rc file.. where do I save that off to? | 23:02 |
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Vinsh_HP | I guess when I hear "no auth" I take that to mean that nova and euca commands will run with out any variable set. | 23:04 |
Vinsh_HP | It sounds like they still need to be set somewhere though, possible from the rc file you describe. | 23:04 |
Vinsh_HP | Ah, I get it (finally) | 23:05 |
Vinsh_HP | I sourced the export from nova-manage(using and existing project). And now have access. | 23:05 |
kbringard | what's the flag to auto-float-ip when an instance launches? | 23:06 |
kbringard | auto_assign_floating_ip? | 23:06 |
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kbringard | will just adding that to my nova.conf and restarting the API do it, or does it need to be on computes? | 23:06 |
Vinsh_HP | vishy, So, even though I have to source those items from the export.. nova might not be checking the secret keys or anything because no auth is being used? | 23:07 |
Vinsh_HP | BTW, thanks for any of these details you share here... I am taking good notes and sharing them with everyone here at HP.. to make sure we don't re-ask anything :) | 23:09 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: correct | 23:11 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: the export / source is just faster than typing them all out by hand | 23:11 |
vishy | :) | 23:12 |
Vinsh_HP | Cool... good to know! | 23:12 |
kbringard | vishy: with auto_assign_floating_ip, does that need to go on the computes too, or just the controller? | 23:13 |
Daviey | Vinsh_HP: if you symlink your novarc to ~/.eucarc you don't need to source it. | 23:13 |
vishy | kbringard: hmm good question | 23:14 |
vishy | kbringard: i would suspect it has to be set for nova-network only | 23:14 |
vishy | kbringard: but i would have to check | 23:14 |
Vinsh_HP | Daviey, Ok. Makes sense. I was hung up on what no-auth really meant for this. I thought euca commands and such would just "work".. It sounds like you still need to specify all of the stuff in a novarc file.. but it is not really checking it behind the scenes. | 23:14 |
kbringard | yea, that's what I was thining too | 23:14 |
kbringard | I'm trying it as we speak, but figured I'd ask in case it didn't work | 23:15 |
kbringard | parallellize! | 23:15 |
Daviey | Vinsh_HP: Well, how will euca2ools know where to send the API commands? | 23:15 |
Vinsh_HP | Daviey, Good point. Its strange though.. I had source my normal novarc already.. but was getting access denied issues. | 23:16 |
Daviey | oh | 23:16 |
Vinsh_HP | I probably didn't have the paste_ini file setup right yet. | 23:16 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: keep in mind that euca2ools is an external tool | 23:16 |
vishy | as is python-novaclient (sortof) | 23:16 |
Vinsh_HP | Being dropped soon toor ight? | 23:16 |
Vinsh_HP | *too right | 23:16 |
Daviey | I don't think i've ever used noauth TBH. | 23:16 |
vishy | Vinsh_HP: so they still have to be configured somehow | 23:17 |
Daviey | Vinsh_HP: wait, what is being dropped? | 23:17 |
Vinsh_HP | nova commands were not working either. but nova also needs to know which end point to talk to. | 23:17 |
Vinsh_HP | Daviey, Oh, I thought I heard something about more focus around the nova open stack commands going forward. not sure..was on some bug report | 23:18 |
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Daviey | Vinsh_HP: EC2 API will not go away, even though some people wish it would :) | 23:19 |
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