Friday, 2011-09-23

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g2Hi there, Can someone explain me what is a "floating ip" in nova. I am a bit confused about its use.00:07
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Luis_Is anyone here?00:40
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deshantm_laptopLuis_: best just to ask your question and be patient00:42
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* spikebike fishes for anyone using openstack with DRBD00:58
spikebike(while reading various googled blog and forum posts mentioning similar)00:58
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WormManDRBD? for what?00:59
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mandela123anyone  online?01:23
Ryan_Lanemandela123: ask a question, and someone will likely get back with you01:24
Ryan_Laneif someone who can answer it is around01:24
mandela123i want to know  how openstack  support virtualbox01:24
mandela123must the compute node  install the virtubox software01:25
mandela123if i upload a image which the type is vdi01:25
mandela123and how shoud i config the nova.conf  with libvrt_tye01:26
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fujinyo guys, anyone had any trouble with console.log logging for instances with libvirt/kvm ?01:35
fujinjust a 0 bytes file in our testing01:35
fujintrying to diagnose some connectivity issues.01:36
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atkiscKeypairNotFound: Keypair %(keypair_name)s not found for user %(user_id)s02:53
atkiscwhen i boot instance02:53
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toluenehi! is there any install script for the lastest diablo ?03:41
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moggi want to try openstack diablo06:14
moggi dled the tar.gz from the website06:14
moggbut i dont see ab installation guide06:15
moggcan you help me?06:15
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naehringmogg, have a look on docs.openstack.ogr06:16
moggshould i just do python install or something06:17
moggohh ook naehringm, thanks i will look into it06:17
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rmkHas anyone tried block migrations?06:21
rmkI'm getting corrupted root disks when I use it06:21
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HugoKuo__does the peaking of Pound is 600 requests only ?06:39
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winston-dhas anyone tried OSAPI to create instance on Cactus?06:57
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uvirtbotNew bug: #857097 in nova "Nova home page still shows Cactus release as latest build available for download" [Undecided,New]
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HugoKuo__windston-d , I think yes ....07:19
atkiscdiablo 4 release ,good ?07:21
winston-dHugoKuo__ : hi, i am wondering how OSAPI determine which project to use, when one user belongs to multiple projects.07:23
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tznhi, anybody from openstack-dashboard?07:24
atkiscare you from china ?07:24
tzn@atkisc: you mean me?07:25
larissatzn: Error: "atkisc:" is not a valid command.07:25
atkisc@tzn : i from china07:25
larissaatkisc: Error: "tzn" is not a valid command.07:25
tzni'm not ;)07:25
atkiscdiablo 4 release dashboard , problem ?07:26
tznno, I'd like to contribute translations07:27
atkisco ,07:28
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B_NightHello guys can someone point a good howto install swift and some use cases for the object store07:33
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winston-datkisc: Dong Zhibin on the mailing list?07:36
winston-dB_Night : docs.openstack.org07:36
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B_Nightwinston-d I try that but unfortunatlly I can`t get it I try to install swift from apt-get07:37
winston-dB_Night : so you have some problem w/ installation?07:37
B_Nightno I don`t quite understand how and what I should install07:38
atkiscwinston-d: who are you ?07:38
B_NightI read this
winston-datkisc : some lurker07:39
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winston-dB_Night : I have no idea.  I've never tried SAIO installation.  I installed swift via source code.07:44
winston-dB_Night : maybe you can read and try following instructions here:
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B_Nightwinston-d is there some requierments for disk space07:46
B_NightI can try and run this swift on one vm in the cloud this will be interesting07:46
winston-dB_Night : you can still use VM while following same instruction, i think07:46
B_Nightyes thank you07:47
atkiscwinston-d  : 报出你的名号07:47
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winston-datkisc : my IRC client cannot read Chinese characters07:47
atkiscwho are you ?07:48
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baynaahi all, I got "RemoteError: TypeError 'NoneType' object is unsubscriptable" when trying to lauch a new instance.08:26
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Raziquebaynaa: HI :) is it the only exception08:32
Raziquecould you check nova-compute.log and nova-api.log ?08:32
RaziqueI've already seen that error, but don't recall the source08:32
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baynaaRazique: now the problem gone. i might messed up something.08:46
baynaahas anyone tried live migration on Cactus?08:46
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Raziquenot yet, since I use nova-volumes, but don't have the all NFS share stuff :)08:48
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baynaayeah yeah, that shared storage stuff! so the dir should be mounted before launching any instance09:01
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baynaaRazique: is there anything about nova-volume? i mean, something to do with live migration?09:02
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Raziqueyup :) when you attach a volume to an instance, an iscsi connection from nova-volumes to the node running the instance is made09:03
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Raziquenow, I've asked, but we don't know what happens to that iscsi session09:03
RaziqueI'm quite sure, the session is lost, which leads to a volume loss on the running instance09:04
baynaahm, that sounds something to test. mine is just a simple instance without storage, but if a simple test goes well then i would also like to test your senario.09:07
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koolhead17hi all09:19
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atkiscI open dashboard url ,error:09:25
atkiscCould not import dashboard.views. Error was: No module named kombu.connection09:25
atkisci dont know problem09:25
B_NightHi all is there a way to increase the ram of an running vm ?09:26
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Raziquehi koolhead17 =-09:27
koolhead17Razique: hola09:27
RaziqueB_Night: you need to run a "resize"09:27
HugoKuo__winston-d , that's a good question .......09:27
Raziquethat implies a live migration09:27
RaziqueB_Night: the openstack-compute cli allows you to do a resize and a confirm-resize09:28
B_NightRazique thanks for that info09:29
Raziqueyou welcome09:29
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Raziqueyup ? :)09:36
atkiscI open dashboard url ,error:09:36
atkiscCould not import dashboard.views. Error was: No module named kombu.connection09:36
atkisci dont know problem09:37
uvirtbotNew bug: #857209 in nova "contrib/ is broken, due to syntax changes" [Undecided,New]
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Raziqueatkisc: which OS ?09:41
uvirtbotNew bug: #857217 in glance "Error: Couldn't clone git:// into " [Undecided,New]
atkiscubuntu server 11.04 x86_6409:41
Raziquetry aptitude install python-kombu09:41
Raziquethe package contains the lib09:41
atkiscdpkg-query -l |grep python-kombu09:42
RaziqueI checked, the packages does exist :)09:43
atkisci checked09:43
Raziqueso a simple aptitude install python-kombu should work09:43
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atkiscroot@release:/opt/openstack-dashboard/openstack-dashboard# aptitude install python-kombu09:44
atkiscNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.09:44
atkisc0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 52 not upgraded.09:44
atkiscNeed to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.09:44
Raziquethat means the package is installed :/09:44
koolhead17atkisc: are u on oneiric?09:45
koolhead17atkisc: are you using ubuntu oneiric09:46
atkiscdiablo release dashboard09:47
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atkischi, koolhead1709:48
koolhead17atkisc: i can see pkg there on oneiric09:48
Raziquekoolhead17: it means the package is installed don't u think ?09:50
B_NightRazique: when i run openstack-compute resize09:51
B_Nighti get this error:09:51
B_Night(nova): TRACE:   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/nova/compute/", line 894, in prep_resize (nova): TRACE:     'Migration error: destination same as source!'))09:51
Raziqueatkisc: what dpkg -l | grep kombu gives ?09:51
B_Nightthis is in nova-compute.log09:51
RaziqueB_Night: how many nodes do you have ?09:51
atkiscroot@release:/opt/openstack-dashboard/openstack-dashboard# dpkg -l | grep kombu09:51
atkiscii  python-kombu                     1.0.4-2~natty1                             AMQP Messaging Framework for Python09:51
B_Nightonly 1 node09:51
B_Nightit`s single server setup09:51
RaziqueB_Night: yup, you need at least two nodes for a resize09:51
atkisci use ubuntu 11.0409:51
B_Nightok I understand09:51
Raziquethe resize consists in a migration then09:51
koolhead17atkisc: it is indeed installed09:52
B_Nightso other way to increase my ram on this live vm then ?09:52
Raziquein fact, as I recall, a clone with the new flavor is made09:52
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Raziquethen by confirming the resize, the current instance is deleted09:52
RaziqueB_Night: you could try to edit the domain.xml file, but I wouldn't recommend that :D09:53
RaziqueB_Night: do you use kmv or xen ?09:53
B_Nightno qemu09:54
B_Nightit`s on vm player virtual matchine testing only09:54
Raziqueah ok, so its it's a test09:54
Raziquetry it :)09:54
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Raziquewhen you run an instance, a domain.xml file is created, into which you find the settings09:55
Raziqueyou could edit the xml file and change the value09:55
Raziquebut the instance needs to be restart09:55
B_Nightok I understand09:55
Raziquethat makes me think it's not a live resize at all :D09:55
Raziquesorry, wrong suggestion09:56
B_NightI try to install swift on this vm but it looks like there is no enough ram to run09:56
B_NightI only have 256 ram on the instance09:56
B_Nightso I need more09:56
B_Nightand somehow I don`t want to start all over again09:57
B_Nightmaybe is better to just install swift on the host then09:57
RaziqueB_Night: mmm10:00
Raziqueyou are on diablo ?10:00
B_Nightand I want to have some fun with swift10:01
btorchB_Night: 512 is ok but to really have fun a 1024 is better :)10:02
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Raziqueinstall swift on a new instance then10:04
Raziqueit's the bast way to keep ur instance intact10:04
LanceHaigI know this is a question that is probably asked quite a bit. I am sorry if this upsets you but I need to know. Is the Openstack suite ready for production usage?10:04
B_NightLanceHaig: yes it`s rackspace use it in production afcourse with a lot of modifications and additional software10:05
RaziqueLanceHaig: I say yes for the cactus release, definitely :)10:05
B_NightRazique I somehow want to not lost additional 1 hour to reconfigure everything will migrate to volume and the boot from it10:07
B_Nightthis will be the best way I should do this at first place10:07
koolhead17keystone giving me nostalgia, need to spend good time with it10:08
btorchLanceHaig: not sure about Nova .. but openstack-swift has been in production even before it was release on Openstack and it's pretty stable10:09
RaziqueB_Night: here is what I would try then10:09
Raziqueshutdown the VM, but not via openstack10:09
Raziqueso you keep all the files10:09
Raziqueyou could try to kill the process, but sees risky10:09
Raziqueedit the domain.xml in order to upgrade ram10:09
Raziquethen run reboot the instance via mnova10:10
Raziqueyou could also update the database the match the flavor10:10
B_Nightor I can just attach a volume dd /dev/vda to /dev/vdb then just run an new instance vith snapshot from this volume and voala I have a running swift from with I can boot wathever I want10:11
Raziquekoolhead17: I don't know how keystone works, and the migration from cactus to diablo is coming here :)10:11
RaziqueB_Night: yah, too :)10:12
koolhead17Razique: make sure to document it well man. are you using cactus for production?10:12
Raziquesince disablo allows boot from volumes10:12
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Raziqueanyone made the migration from cactus to diablo yet ?10:13
LanceHaigB_Night, Razique, btorch thanks guys10:16
Raziqueyou welcome :) do you have some topic on which you not sure about ?10:16
B_NightRazique I was in cactus before update to diablo and it was pain I migrate from cactus to D310:16
B_Nightbut there is no instructions when I do this10:17
B_Nighti have some issues with database and also with object storage since in Diablo the images should be on glance10:17
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B_Nightbut for around 2-3 hours I have everything up and running again10:17
B_Nighton D310:17
Raziqueok, excellent then !10:18
Raziquedid you lost the running instances, the volumes ?10:18
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LanceHaigRazique, well I want to see if I can start a cluster with diablo and want to make sure I won't hit any issues that are known about.10:20
LanceHaigbut I still have the openstack book to read through10:20
koolhead17Razique: did you try keystone on natty?10:20
koolhead17for dashboard10:21
koolhead17LanceHaig: hello10:21
Raziquekoolhead17: I've never used keystone yet10:21
RaziqueLanceHaig: I can't tell for diablo, under cactus I've 6 running compute node, one could controller and one glance server10:23
Raziqueso far so good10:23
Raziquethe next step will be to have a  server dedicated to nova-volumes10:23
B_NightRazique have no issues with volumes but I lost my instances also all the things that was not on glance also I lost my credentials and network configuration10:23
B_NightRazique: what are the hardware specs on this 6 compute nodes ?10:24
RaziqueB_Night: mmm very interesting, how did you "lost" them ? were they running and then stopped ?10:24
B_NightI want to move my setup on bare hardware soon so I need some shopping lis10:24
B_NightI am not sure exactly because my whole nova-network was down some issue with vm_bridge settings10:25
B_Nighthowever nothing importent was lost10:26
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Raziquethey all have 32gb of ram and 16 cores10:26
B_Nightso how many instances you run on them >10:26
Raziqueall proliant DL3XX servers10:26
Raziqueat the moment around 1510:27
Raziqueok, good to know for the network thing10:27
RaziqueI'll reinstall a cloud with the same cactus version, attach volumes to running instance and test everything then10:28
B_Nightthat`s the best think to do before migration10:28
Raziqueyah, I can't afford a crash hehe10:28
Raziquebtw, i've written some DR scripts10:28
Raziquewe had two power loos at the datacenter10:29
RaziqueI"ve written the script the day after ahah10:29
Raziquethe script uses euca2ools, but it'll be updated soon10:29
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B_NightI will check this scripts10:30
B_NightI am wonder if you have some way to automatically start your instances when you have a crash like this10:31
Raziquedunno with diablo, but cactus nope10:31
B_NightI watch a what of stuff about rightscale and there instances and wonder if there is a way to do the same with private cloud10:31
Raziqueit's not aware of the crash, so thinks instances are still running10:31
B_Night*a lot10:31
Raziqueafter that, the state change to "shutdown"10:32
Raziqueso you have to run a "reboot"10:32
Raziquebut update the database first10:32
B_Nightit`s not good since my test is on vm I can`t test stuff like crashesh at the moment I to often shutdown that vm10:33
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RaziqueB_Night: I lived the worst case scenario : power loss, volumes connection loss, server reboots10:34
B_NightI also want to invest some time in automation of the instances start process10:34
RaziqueB_Night: you can check chef or puppet :)10:35
doudeHi all, how works roles with keystone+Nova ?10:35
doudeRBAC allways working ? project owner, netadmin, itadmin,... ?10:35
Raziquedoude: I've only found that
B_Nightdo you have any experience with stuff like this I play a little with some rightscale instances on AWS and have to say that it`s great to have such things and it works prity simple10:37
RaziqueB_Night: what AWS does exactly ?10:37
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B_Nightit`s only the cloud backend on which rightscale images are runned10:38
B_Nightso nothing spectacular there10:38
B_Nightrightscale actually tun a small client program that pull scripts from repository and run them on instance startup10:39
B_Nighthowever you can have a script that deploy php app or mysql database or whatever you like10:39
B_Nightthe actual data is stored somewere on the S3 storage that`s why I want to have swift running so I can test the same beheivor on my cloud and create some test instance types that are configured on run10:40
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Raziquewaw, cool10:42
Raziquenow, I simply populate my glance repo with customized images10:42
Raziqueso i've a LAMP-debian-6 image10:42
Raziqueconsumes more disk space compared to your solution though :)10:43
B_Nightit`s not my solution it`s rightscale ones I just watch a great webinar on that it`s called from 0 to cloud10:45
B_Nightand it`s fasinating10:45
Raziquethat was an impersonal you :p10:45
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B_Nightat the begining I also told about customzied images10:46
Raziquewould you send me the link ? :)10:46
B_Nightbut this solution looks great10:46
B_Nightone moment10:46
Raziquethanks man10:47
B_Nightafcourse it has some advartising in this webinar but it`s great for having inpresion on what rightscale does and how10:47
B_Nighthere you can found other webinars10:47
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Raziqueel diablo10:55
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doudeRazique: thanks for your pointer but isn't more clear for me. I don't understand how to define role with Keystone11:19
doudeThe nova roles (netadmin, itadmin, itsec, ...) are still relevant ?11:20
koolhead17doude: i doubt. even i want to know more of it :D11:21
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valeriydoes anybody know how to isolate user from seeing instances in other projects?11:26
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valeriyi suppose ti a user has only projectmanager role for its own project, he cannot see and terminate instances in other projects11:27
valeriybut in fact, he does see them and he can terminate them as well11:27
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koolhead17valeriy: what are you wprking on cactus?11:32
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valeriydiablo trunk11:38
valeriyfor testing purposes i have make two project and two users11:39
valeriyafter one user has started instance with command: "nova boot ....", another user can see that instance with "nova list" command and can terminate it with "nova delete <id>"11:40
valeriyi use glance and i added images with command: glance add name="" kernel_id= ramdisk_id= < ...11:41
valeriymay be there is something wrong with image preperties?11:41
valeriyi have looked through "user_project_role_associations" table in NOVA database, but everything seems to be correct11:43
koolhead17valeriy: am trying diablo. So i cannot help you with that. Keystone is giving me crazy errors :(11:43
valeriyso i wonder, is it possible to isolate instance visibility in openstack , like in Amazon for example, or not? may be RBAC model is not working yet?11:44
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Raziquevaleriy: Hi :)12:09
Raziqueweird, since a new projects generates new set of credentials12:09
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Raziqueand u need them in order to interact with your objects (instances, images, etc..)12:09
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valeriythat's all in theory only, i have looked through docs12:12
Raziqueit's not theory, without credentials, you can't manage your cloud :p12:13
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valeriyi mean RBAC model12:15
valeriyu see, every "how to" ends by creating single user and single project, and only few words about RBAC in official docs12:16
Raziquethat is right12:16
Raziqueso for you two projects you have a set of different credentials or are they the same ?12:17
* Razique is just trying to figure ouy12:17
valeriyi have one cloud admin with its own project and another project with simple user12:17
valeriysimple user has only projectmanager role12:18
valeriybut he can terminate instances, started by cloud admin from his own project12:18
valeriythat's nonsence12:18
Raziquethat is very weird indeed12:19
Raziqueand what are you using for the communication with the projects ?12:19
RaziqueCLI or API ?12:19
valeriyhere, what i have done, step by step, just after clean installation12:21
valeriysudo nova-manage user admin novaadmin12:21
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valeriysudo nova-manage project create sandbox novaadmin12:22
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valeriysudo nova-manage project zipfile sandbox novaadmin novaadmin.zip12:22
valeriysudo nova-manage user create valeriy12:22
valeriysudo nova-manage project create test valeriy12:22
valeriysudo nova-manage project zipfile test valeriy valeriy.zip12:22
valeriythen, novaadmin performed image upload, using: glance add name ....12:23
valeriyin this situation, "valeriy" can see novaadmin instances and can terminate them12:23
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Raziquewhat did you do in order to use the "valeriy" user ?12:24
valeriyssh to server12:25
valeriyunzip valeriy.zip12:25
valeriysource novarc12:25
valeriynova image-list12:25
valeriynova list12:25
valeriynova delete12:25
valeriyec2 tools work in the same manner12:26
Raziqueare you able to perform admin. task with that user ?12:26
koolhead17can you test this for me?12:27
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valeriyyes, he can12:29
valeriysudo nova-manage create user{project}12:29
valeriythat's weird12:29
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valeriybecause i have 'False' fro all commands: sudo nova-manage role has valeriy admin{cloudadmin, sysadmin,netadmin}12:30
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koolhead17Razique: are you using this now or still using eucatools12:54
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RaziqueI was running
Raziquebut I'm unable to boot servers so for that I use euca2oolks12:55
Raziquebut thanks for the link, I'll install it now :D12:55
koolhead17Razique: lol. :D12:56
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Raziqueyah the version of openstack-compute is buggy12:56
Raziqueits unable to retrieve ipgroups12:56
koolhead17annegentle: ping12:57
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uvirtbotNew bug: #857347 in nova "Broken links in README" [Undecided,New]
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Raziquekoolhead17: so I'm trying to use less and less euca2ools, but since it was the only tools that allowed me to run instances13:00
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Raziquebtw how can  I remove a a package I installed ?13:02
RaziqueI installed that one
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RaziqueI figured, you reinstall it with the --record $file flag13:06
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annegentlekoolhead17: hi, looking into the cactus landing page difference now13:12
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koolhead17annegentle: cool. :D13:14
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Raziquekoolhead17: hehe the rackspace cli doesn't work either13:19
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koolhead17Razique: patience my friend :D13:21
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Raziquemmmm ok ok :D so what should i do13:22
koolhead17hnag on with euca :D13:24
annegentlekoolhead17: how did the photo shoot go?13:24
Raziqueahah yah13:24
koolhead17annegentle: awesome. you will get them soon. :D13:24
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annegentlekoolhead17: got 'em!13:51
koolhead17annegentle: :P13:51
annegentle:) you guys look great13:52
koolhead17annegentle: hehe. the one with beard is me13:53
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koolhead17kbringard: hey13:58
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kbringardhow's it going?13:59
Raziqueaye kbringard  :)13:59
kbringardRazique: good day, sir13:59
mtrobHi all, I thought I would check here first, we run mostly OpenVZ systems, is openstack supporting that yet?14:05
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catbot_The team released Diablo early this day, but I notice keystone and dashboard are not ready to run, which aren't parts of Dialo of official?14:12
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Raziquecatbot_: the dashboard it not considered officially part of Diablo, while keystone is14:14
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kbringardmtrob: that's a good question… I don't think so, but I'd be happy to be corrected if I'm wrong14:16
kbringardI know there is some LXC support14:16
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kbringardthere's a blueprint for OpenVZ support, though14:17
catbot_there are so many changes to keystone, I think it is a good way to make a tag if it is ready for release14:17
kbringardand it says it was accepted for diablo, so I could be 100% wrong :-)14:17
mtrobthat's what I've found, very sketchy details14:18
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catbot_Due to there no tags in git, so I doubt keystone is part of diablo14:20
koolhead17kbringard: would you mind helping me with this error  FAIL: test_validate_token_expired_xml (keystone.test.functional.test_token.CheckToken)14:21
koolhead17i tried running python run_tests.py14:21
kbringardkoolhead17: I have not setup keystone in like 3 months, I don't know how much help I'll be :-/14:22
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catbot_keystone is working for me, just dashboard does not work14:24
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catbot_I suggest you refresh checkout the code from git14:26
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koolhead17kbringard: :D14:31
kbringardannegentle: on, if I click on the14:31
kbringarderr, stupid enter key14:31
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kbringardon, if I click on Documentation at the top, it tries to take me to, which is passworded14:32
annegentlekbringard: eek. Thanks for the heads up14:34
kbringardI doubt many people would click on it from there, since it's the same page they're currently on14:34
kbringardbut, I'm a weirdo, I guess14:34
* Razique just tried14:36
kbringardI saw a bug about this, but I guess there are 2 flags now for allowing project traffic or not?14:36
kbringard—allow_project_net_traffic I think is the vlan flag14:36
kbringardanyone know what the one for Flat is?14:36
kbringardFlatDHCP, I mean14:36
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annegentlekbringard: well at least it shows we do staging? :)14:38
kbringardannegentle: haha, true enough14:38
annegentleshould be fixed in root, diablo, and /api now.14:39
kbringardyea, it's correct for me now… at least the one case that it was broken before14:39
* koolhead17 broken reminds me of dashboard :p14:40
kbringardhehe, sorry koolhead17, I don't use the dashboard, so I don't know if I'll be much help14:41
koolhead17kbringard: :P14:41
kbringardwe wrote out own internal one like 10 months ago, because the OS one was very mature14:41
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RaziqueI don't use the dashboard, CLI's much efficient imo :p14:43
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kbringardRazique: well, yea, that's what I do most of the time as well14:43
koolhead17Razique: you mean euca ?14:43
kbringardbut onboarding newbs is way better when you can tell them to just go to a website14:43
koolhead17kbringard: :D14:43
Raziquekoolhead17: euca for launching instances, glance for image, nova-manage for administration14:43
kbringardhybridbox 1.6 has pretty decent openstack support too14:44
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Raziqueand when I feel I don't use CLI enough, I play with nova14:44
Razique since i removed the openstack-compute one14:44
kbringardnot that it's a dashboard replacement, but if you're just looking for something that's a nice hybrid between web interface and cli14:44
Raziquekoolhead17: send them a .sh script14:44
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Raziqueonce they double click on it, it 'll performs cli tasks14:45
bpaluchok is it me or is a lot of the documentation kind of either out of date, or not really complete for diablo, like for instance, now that diablo is released, should it still be in trunk. If I do scripted install it does'nt seem to install everything I need. What is the best fresh install document to follow?14:45
kbringardand send you their /etc/shadow file ;-)14:45
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Raziqueand write a note "preserve bandwidth, don't use GUI's"14:45
koolhead17Razique: laawl kbringard yeah i know hybridfix rocks :P14:46
Raziquewow I totally forget it14:47
Raziqueit supports openstack now :D14:47
kbringardRackspace has an iPhone app that uses the openstack API and works pretty well, too14:47
koolhead17Razique: how could you :D14:47
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B_NightRazique: hybridfox don`t work well with diablo14:47
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Raziquekbringard: where could we get it ? :p14:47
B_NightI use euca2tools to launch instances14:47
kbringardmakes a pretty cool presentation to launch and configure VMs from your phone14:47
kbringardRazique: it's in the app store14:48
kbringardsearch for rackspace14:48
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koolhead17kbringard: not 4 droide?14:48
kbringardpossibly, I don't know, I have an iPhone :-)14:48
Raziquecould I connect it to my cloud or is the auth url frozen ?14:48
kbringardyou can add custom URLs14:48
notmynameRazique: auth url is settable14:48
kbringardso you can connect it to your cloud14:48
kbringardwould be kind of worthless for OpenStack otherwise ;-)14:48
* Razique need to do some NATing first since openvpn doesn't work on iPhone :D14:49
kbringardhaha, indeed14:49
Raziquekbringard: true14:49
kbringardor, put your API on an external URL14:49
* Razique wonders if installing openstack into an openstack's instance would cause a blackhole14:50
kbringardooOOoo, I've not tried it on iPad yet14:50
* kbringard does that14:50
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notmynameRazique: I think that's openstack inception, and, like the movie, it just makes everything really slow14:51
Raziquemmm it is possible, I should try to prevent customers to do that14:52
kbringardlol, that'd be funny, they setup openstack on your openstack and sell it14:53
kbringardstep 3: Profit!14:54
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Raziqueahah, openstack provider fail14:55
nhmhrm, does swift have any kind of drop-box like functionality?14:57
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notmynamenhm: dropbox is a client on top of s3 (and their own storage). swift is like that backend storage. it's up to you to build the dropbox client ;-)14:59
nhmnotmyname: yeah, I was wondering if there was some kind of officially supported project to do so.15:00
notmynamenhm: or are you talking about write-only access?15:00
nhmnotmyname: I saw that SDSC is doing something like dropbox on top of swift for their 5.5PB cloud.15:01
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nhmnotmyname: I've got a cactus-era swift deployed here already.15:01
notmynameI think the lesson is: write a cool client and watch the VC money rain down on you :-)15:01
nhmgoing to upgrade to diablo next week and that would be a nice thing to demo.15:01
nhmnotmyname: Well, I work for a Supercomputing Institute. ;)15:02
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nhmSo not much VC money around here, though I managed to get us a small grant.15:02
notmynamenhm: FWIW, you should know that each release of swift us prod-ready. there is no reason to wait so long between upgrades. all of the swift releases between cactus and diablo are stable15:02
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kbringardhmmm, looks like the concurrent db connections got upped in diablo… so upping the default max_connections in mysql from 100 is a good idea if you have more than a few compute nodes15:03
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nhmnotmyname: It had more to do with me being in charge of a new lustre deployment, helping write a GPU cluster RFP, and dealing with other random fires. ;)15:04
notmynamenhm: one possiblility (as Razique brought up) is to use the Rackspace iPhone app to interact with your swift clister15:04
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notmynamenhm: ya, I realize there are many other reasons to not upgrade right away. just wanted to make sure that you know that swift is ready for you when you get to it :-)15:05
Raziquemm about that15:06
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Raziquethe app is cool15:06
Raziquebut renaming a server makes it hang :D15:06
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notmynameRazique: in the iPhone app?15:07
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Raziqueyah ahah15:08
kbringardah, the lazy load15:08
Raziquebut the operation worked though15:08
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Raziqueok cool app, but not that useful :D15:09
Raziqueto me I mean15:09
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kbringardRazique: yea, like I said, neat for a demo of your cloud, but personally I don't have a lot of use for such a thing15:11
kbringardbut it's the sort of thing suits go ape crazy for15:11
Raziqueyup, just to show to your bosses that you worked, that's it15:11
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notmynamenot sure what to say about that. under settings->about this app there is contact info for the dev (and the code location). perhaps a bug can be filed?15:13
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kbringardif you get a stack trace in nova from it, then there's more going on that just a bug in the app (obviously)15:13
kbringardbut the app should handle whatever happened without crashing, I'd say15:14
heckjRazique - what app? Sorry, missed the scroll back?15:15
Raziquehi heckj15:15
kbringardheckj: the rackspace iPhone app15:15
Raziquethe rackspace one15:15
heckjYeah, I've done some work on that - what's the question or problem?15:15
Raziqueit keeps hanging with the cactus release15:15
heckjAre you using the latest release that just came out (2.1 I think)?15:16
RaziqueI try to rename a server with the app, and i've that error
Raziqueyup kbringard told me about the iPhone app, so I just downloaded it15:16
heckjGot it… just a sec15:16
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Raziqueahha apple are crazy, here is how the autocorrect works : Rackspace -> backspace ; iphone -> iPhone15:17
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heckjYeah, it's definitely something awry in how they're using the API.15:17
Raziquewhat awry means heckj ?15:18
heckjThey're broken using some aspect of the API15:18
Raziqueah ok15:18
heckjRazique: The project that Mike and crew are working on is at - Definitely open an issue there (I don't think he's using launchpad for that) at
heckjI pinged Mike (greenisus) to ask if he'd seen that traceback before - hopefully so.15:22
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Raziqueand voila
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koolhead17heckj: hello15:30
Raziquein which field into the database the server name is stored ?15:31
Raziqueok found it : display_name :)15:32
Raziquei'm too lazy to use the api to rename then, so a sql query would help, is it ok if I do that directly ?15:32
kbringardRazique: sure, that's all the API does anyway, right? ;-)15:32
Raziquekbringard: thanks, that's what I thought, but wasn't sure :)15:33
heckjkoolhead17: ola!15:33
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Raziquetime to go home, be back later :)15:46
Raziquesee you all :)15:46
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ashpI have a question, and you have to understand that I'm barely above "incompetent idiot" in understanding this stuff.  Could I use something like cloudstack to manage as few as two physical boxes?15:51
ashpI'm just looking to experiment with and start moving into some kind of internal cloud at work due to compliance issues with data in external clouds.15:52
kbringardyou can run OpenStack all one one physical node if you want to15:52
notmynameashp: you are looking for compute or storage? (or both?)15:52
kbringardnotmyname: oh, good point15:52
ashpnotmyname: compute, I suppose.  For storage I assume I could just point to volumes on a netapp.15:53
ashpnotmyname: That's an open thing however if openstack does something for storage I should know about :)15:53
ashpMy level of cloud style skills involve 'fire up an instance in ec2', so this is all new to me.15:53
ashpTraditionally I would have just used ESX or kvm and created vm's by hand - I'm trying to get beyond that.15:53
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notmynameashp: what kind of storage are you looking for? block-level storage or some place to put backups, snapshots, etc15:55
notmyname(ie object-level storage)15:56
kbringardashp: there is a volume storage component (not required) that somewhat emulates EBS volumes, and there is an object storage component that would be akin to S315:56
ashpnotmyname: Some place to store the images for the vm's and hypothetically something similar to EBS.15:56
ashpCurrently we don't do anything that uses/requires an object store but that doesn't mean in the future the developers wouldn't love something like that.15:56
ashpFor a bit of background I just started here and it's a very traditional place with lots of servers built on physical hardware and old fashioned engineering.15:56
notmynameashp: nova has a volume api for block-level stoage. and there is an openstack project called swift that is for object storage15:56
ashpI am attempting to do my bit to kick us into the future by bringing in novel things like automation.15:57
ashpnova is the bit that offers 'compute' right?15:57
ashpI think my question was answered earlier with the fact it would be usable on as little as a single node15:58
heckjashp: You can do it with the stackops setup, or just a straight up package install15:58
ashpWhile I'm only starting with two physical servers I expect to harass them into growing whatever tiny cloud I put together.15:58
heckjashp: starting with a single node isn't an issue either.15:58
ashpI think I'll do some experimentation.  I've seen a puppet module drifting around that does openstack installations so I'll probably start with that and expand up from there.15:58
heckjashp: There's puppet and chef both - use whatever you're most familiar with15:59
ashpI'll check out stackops as well and start poking around at the Diablo docs.  I've probably got a few weeks before the incredibly slow provisioning process spits out some physical machines so I have lots of time to plan.15:59
ashpWe've been doing all our new development on EC2 so I look forward to being able to offer something similar in house. :)16:00
heckjashp: The good news is you can put the nova components on a machine as small as a laptop if that's most convenient for you.16:01
ashpI'll install it on all the dev laptops to punish them16:01
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mcclurmchi guys. just wanted to say that XCP 1.1 has just been released16:04
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B_NightHi guys16:06
B_NightI have an issue with swift16:06
B_NightI run this command: curl -v -H 'X-Storage-User: test:tester' -H 'X-Storage-Pass: testing'
B_NightI get a response from my swift-proxy16:06
B_Night> GET /auth/v1.0 HTTP/1.1 > User-Agent: curl/7.19.7 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8k zlib/ libidn/1.15 > Host: > Accept: */* > X-Auth-User: test:tester > X-Auth-Pass: testing16:07
B_Nightbut there is no X-Auth-Token passed by swift-proxy16:07
notmynamethat's actually the request, not the response16:07
notmynameyou see it because you are using the -v switch on curl16:07
notmynameuse -i instead16:08
B_Nightso with -i I don`t get any response from swift-proxy16:08
koolhead17Am trying to run python
koolhead17do/am i supposed to file a bug?16:09
notmynameB_Night: can you paste what you are seeing (
ashpIs openstack tied as closely to ubuntu as the wiki docs make it look?  We normally use RHEL6 here.16:10
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ashpI stumbled over so maybe it won't be too bad.16:11
koolhead17ashp: have you seen that for first time16:11
B_Nightthis is my proxy-server conf16:11
B_Nightand also the curl command that I run16:11
ashpkoolhead17: what?16:11
B_NightI use as reference16:11
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koolhead17the wiki16:12
notmynameB_Night: do you see anything in the proxy logs (syslog, probably)?16:13
B_Nightno nothing16:13
notmynameB_Night: I'd think you should be getting something back (probably an error). I suspect the "use" line in the auth filter section of the proxy conf16:14
B_Nightunfortunatlly i don`t get any errors16:14
koolhead17B_Night: i need help too :P16:15
notmynameB_Night: what version of swift are you using? what auth system?16:15
B_Nighti use swift 1.4.3 i think16:16
B_Nightno i use swift 1.2.016:16
notmynameah. that's quite an old version16:16
B_Nightswift                             1.2.0-0ubuntu1~lucid0             A distributed virtual object store (16:16
notmynameB_Night: so then is the auth server running (ps -ef | grep auth)16:17
B_NightI don`t have auth server running16:17
notmynamethat's the error then16:17
B_Nightacutally I don`t have an auth-server.conf16:17
B_NightI will check the documentation for 1.2 verison of swift16:17
notmynameyou should look at the 1.2 docs then.
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B_Nightnotmyname i check 1.2 docs I install swift-auth and run it16:29
B_Nighthowever swift-auth-add-user -K devauth -a test tester testing16:29
notmynamehonestly, it's been a long time since I've messed with the auth server. is there are reason you aren't running more recent code?16:30
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B_Nightthat`s just what I get when installing swift with apt-get16:33
notmynamehmm..that's a problem16:34
B_Nightmaybe I need to get additional repository for newer version in apt16:34
B_NightI also try to use swauth instead16:34
notmynameB_Night: mtaylor can set you straight on which repo to use to get the most recent code16:34
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mtaylorhi B_Night16:35
notmynameB_Night: 1.4.3 doesn't include swauth. it includes tempauth which is good for POC and dev.16:35
mtaylorB_Night: what repo are you using?16:35
B_Nightlet me check16:35
B_Night lucid main16:36
B_Nightso if I want to use 1.4.3 version of swift what version should I use16:36
mtayloroh. yeah - that's deprecated16:36
mtaylorchange ppa in that line to release16:37
mtaylorand that will get you the latest release16:37
mtaylor lucid main16:37
mtayloror you can just do: add-apt-repository ppa:swift-core/release16:37
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B_Nightok thanks for that info16:39
koolhead17ziyadb: hi16:40
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koolhead17mtaylor: B_Night could you guys mind spending fewm inutes and expalining me about the keystone authentication dashboard and nova16:45
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koolhead17i have keystone installed from githum16:45
koolhead17now installing dashboard16:45
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B_Nightkoolhead17: I never try to run this dashboard I use euca2tools and hybridfox instead16:46
koolhead17i also came across with this
koolhead17B_Night: ok16:47
heckjkoolhead17: Ah yeah, complications with keystone16:47
koolhead17heckj: am installing dashboard now16:47
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heckjDashboard directly uses keystone - it's very dependent upon it.16:48
koolhead17i was wondering where do i put information about nova ? is there some keystone configuration file or sumthing16:48
heckjRazique: greenisus said an update was coming shortly that used the Openstack 1.1 API for the IOS apps.16:48
dolphmkoolhead17: keystone configuration file is probably in /etc/keystone.conf16:48
heckjkoolhead17: you need to configure keystone with sample data that's appropriate to your environment so that dashboard knows where to look for things.16:49
heckjkoolhead17: here's an example (from devstack):
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Raziqueheckj: back :)16:50
Raziqueahah awesome guys, as fast as light16:50
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koolhead17dolphm: ok16:51
koolhead17i have not configured anything anywer16:51
heckjRazique: not so fast as all that - Mike has the change ready to roll for the raw code, but it won't be hitting the release application for a while - that's a bit more time consuming getting through the apple approval process for the app update16:51
koolhead17and am getting soome silly swift related error on dashboard16:51
Raziqueheckj: that I know Apple's validation processes can take a while16:51
koolhead17heckj: thanks let me try16:52
Raziquedoes the 1.1 api have functionnal volumes backup (as presented into the app) ?16:52
heckjRazique: don't know - haven't looked in a while16:52
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koolhead17heckj: you mean i have to run all those command before i open my dashboard :D16:57
ivokshas anyone tried d4->diablo upgrade?16:57
koolhead17ivoks: not me atleast :P16:57
heckjkoolhead17: If you want the dashboard to know how to interact with Nova, Glance, Keystone, and Swift… yes16:57
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koolhead17heckj: you rock. :D16:58
ivokswell, this is what i ended up with:16:58
ivoksUnknown column 'instances_1.default_local_device' in 'field list'16:58
ivokskills starting of nova-network16:59
heckjivoks: that's a migrate gone bad. You might try another run of "nova-manage db sync" and see if that resolves...16:59
ivoksheckj: that did solve the problem, indeed :)17:00
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Raziquekoolhead17: your dashboard works now ? :)17:01
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koolhead17Razique: nopes but i got the reciepe17:01
koolhead17have my fingures crossed17:02
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B_NightRazique: did you know how I should connect cyberduck to swift ?17:05
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RaziqueB_Night : I don't use swift, sorry :(17:10
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heckjB_Night: there's a wiki page somewhere that documents the process - there's some tweaking you need to do with the authentication stuff17:11
heckjB_Night: Ah, here we are:
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koolhead17heckj: will you be around for sometime?17:13
* Razique really needs to go into swift17:13
heckjkoolhead17: only a few more minutes - have to run off to meetings shortly17:14
koolhead17heckj: ok. i will read up the script and in case am stuck will poke yo later. thanks again. the script seems very useful. i really need to understand that endpoint funda17:15
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Raziquekoolhead17: I l missed that part, is there any usefull script around? :p17:16
koolhead17these guys have put in commands here for keystone authentication17:17
TselHi guys, just installing nova and was wondering if anyone could look at my nova.conf see if something like this would work
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RaziqueTsel: mm why are you bridgind the main interface ?17:19
Raziquethe nova.conf seems good, but there is no need to bridge17:19
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uvirtbotNew bug: #857580 in nova "reclaim_instance_interval must be re-declared to use in OSAPI" [Undecided,New]
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TselI wasn't sure if I needed to have a bridge. Originally I had bridge on second interface but I was running on issues so I  thought this might help. If I don't need a bridge I would remove then. Thanks.17:22
RaziqueTsel: yep, the bridges are automatically mounted by nova17:22
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Tselahh, that answers another question I had. Thank  you.17:25
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Raziquein fact I wonder if in flat mode the  bridges are used17:33
kbringardRazique: how do you mean?17:34
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Raziquemmmm as far as I recall depending on your network conf, the behaviour changes17:34
Raziquewhy would nova-network create a bridge for flat / flat-dhcp modes ?17:35
Raziqueohhh yah, in fact, it needs to create a bridge yah : in flat modes, it is required that you have a dhcp server on your network17:37
kbringardwell, in flatDHCP it is ;-)17:37
Raziquein flat dhcp it's nova which provides ip, while in flat, it doesn't17:37
Raziqueok, i'm in vlan mode, and I think bridges are created17:38
Raziquemmm why ?17:38
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kbringardI think you can monkey with the nova-dhcpbridge to make nova get the right info for tracking from a different dhcp server17:38
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kbringardwell, you need an interface for each network in vlan mode17:39
Raziqueahh true true :)17:40
kbringardthat then bridges through to whatever physical interface you route out17:40
Raziquethat was the part I was missing, thanks mr reminder17:40
kbringardhehe, np17:40
kbringardsame concept with FlatDHCP, except you only need one bridge, because it's only one, flat, network17:41
RaziqueI had to play around the vlan_interface a while back, it was related to that :)17:41
Raziquevlan are linked to a project right ? one project equals one vlan ?17:42
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kbringardthat's how you segregate project traffic in vlan mode17:42
kbringardand, obviously, give each project it's own CIDR17:42
Raziqueyup, exactly17:43
kbringardsome people argue that VLAN isn't scalable, though17:43
kbringardbecause there is a hard limit to how many you can have17:43
kbringardlimiting how many projects you can have17:43
Raziquemmm i think it's one byte for the vlans17:43
Raziqueso 255 vlans17:43
kbringardwell, it depends on your hardware17:44
kbringard'cause you can tag your packets with almost whatever you want17:44
RaziqueOh I was totally wrong17:44
RaziqueLinux has a limit of 4096 vlans17:45
kbringardso you can only have up to 4k VLANs on a single network controller17:45
kbringardthen you have to figure out a way to scale past that17:45
kbringardI think RackSpace does it by creating zone like huddles17:46
Raziquegood to know17:47
Raziqueis huddles a tech ?17:47
Raziquedoes nova supports multi interfaces ?17:47
kbringardin a VM?17:47
Raziquedon't think so :D17:47
kbringardyea, it does in Diablo17:47
RaziqueI mean, actually, you dedicate a physical interace which handles vlan17:47
kbringardalthough I've not messed with it much, so I'm not sure the nuances of it17:47
Raziquesuppose you want more vlans17:47
kbringardoh, so like vlan_interface1=eth1 vlan_interface2=eth2, etc?17:48
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Raziqueyup :)17:50
kbringardnot as far as I know17:50
kbringardbut, I'm certainly no nova networking guru17:50
Raziquemmm I have time, don't have 4096 clients yet :D17:50
kbringardhehe, sure, but switching out the network type later will require some pretty hefty downtime and I'm not sure you'd want to do it17:51
kbringardI'd ask some rackers if they can talk about how they handle it17:51
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kbringardbut I think they basically have multiple installs17:52
kbringardit's more complicated than that, but my understanding is that's the gist of it17:52
Raziqueyah, maybe you could deploy several nova-network instances17:52
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Raziqueatm I don't have several instances of a given component, but soon i'l lhave another nova-volumes deployed :)17:54
Raziquei should try  in the lab (that I don't have yet) two nova-networks17:54
Tselsorry to intrude, would there be a benefit to selecting vlan over flat, like in scalability or ease of manage, the likes?17:55
kbringardTsel: there are plusses and minuses to each17:55
kbringarda lot of people believe that implementing layer 2 in your cloud is an archaic and dying way to do things17:56
Raziqueohh I had another question17:56
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Raziquehow do u manage you networks ?17:57
kbringardand there are definitely scalability issues to work around, as Razique and I were just discussing17:57
kbringardboth to vlan in general, and in implementing it in OpenStack17:58
RaziqueTsel: we wanted the vlan mode because we wanted to have an isolated network per client17:58
kbringardfor instance, in vlan mode, you predefine networks17:58
Raziquethe counterpart is the hardware, you need to make sure your switches let pass tagged packets17:58
Raziqueor at least have a match between the vlans conf in your switches in accordance to the nova vlans17:59
kbringardso if someone needs 200 IPs, but you only made their network with 12817:59
kbringardthen you have to monkey around to resolve that17:59
kbringardwhereas with flat, you just have one big network space that everyone shares (like at amazon)18:00
rluciokpepple: i see xcp 1.1rc *finally* came out today18:00
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kbringardand instead of being segregated with vlans, it does ebtables and nwfilter magic18:00
Raziquekbringard: true18:01
rluciokpepple: by chance do you know where the changelist is?18:01
Tselok, makes sense. thanks.18:01
RaziqueTsel: per vlan I've a /16 network, so I won't bother later18:01
kbringardthat's a nice big space, but remember18:02
kbringardthat means that you're allocating an entire /16 to each project18:02
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kbringardso you may have a lot of wasted IP space18:02
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Raziquestill I don't know the subtles things about network_size vs num_networks ^^18:03
kbringardbut, given that it seems you can only have 4k VLANs on a linux machine, you should be fine18:03
kbringardRazique: me either, I need to figure that out… I think it's Flat/DHCP related18:04
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kbringardbut the only reference I can find to that 4k limit is for 2.4 kernels, so it may be upped by now18:07
Raziqueok :p I tried to understand the difference, but I never found a precise doc, still, let me know if you figure :)18:07
* kbringard isn't a kernel hacker :-)18:07
Raziquein fact it's not related to the 2.4 kernel18:09
RaziqueBUT to the 802.1Q standard18:09
kbringardah, there you go18:09
Raziquewhich allows you to dedicate up to 16 bytes for the vlan field18:10
Razique16 bits18:10
Raziquemy bad18:10
kbringardhaha, yea18:10
kbringard16 bytes would be a lot of vlans ;-)18:10
Raziqueahah image a 16 bytes packet18:10
Raziqueviolent une b18:12
Raziqueoups wrong window18:12
kbringardok, lunch time, bbiab18:12
Raziqueoki, cya man18:12
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Raziquefor readers, sorry, it's not 16 but 12 bits18:14
Razique(regarding the VLAN tags)18:14
Raziquecya :D18:14
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rmkHas anyone tried durable rabbit queues yet?18:14
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g2_Hi all: I have a question about assigning a fixed-ip to an instance.18:27
g2_AFAIU In Diablo a new feature got added so that I can specify the fixed IP address while launching an instance. How do I use this feature?18:29
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g2_I see that in nova-client, there is a command like "nova add-fixed-ip <server> <network_id>". Its this related?18:30
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uvirtbotNew bug: #857631 in glance "postinstall script for Oneiric has syntax error" [Undecided,New]
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kpepplerlucio: nova's is at -- and yes, release candidate is out. hoping for prod soon.18:41
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kpepplerlucio: oh, xcp changelist -- no18:45
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Vinsh_HPHello vishy.  I noticed in comment number 1 on this bug  that you refer to the reporter using a deprecated auth method.  Where would I learn about what the new auth method is?  Where are the new features like that and their use described at?18:49
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vishythe default method is noauth right now18:52
vishysince keystone is not quite ready for release yet18:52
cloudnewb01hey guys quick question that is causing me to lose hair18:52
vishyVinsh_HP: this might help
joesavakmust be newb if you still have hair18:53
cloudnewb01does openstack diable come bundled with a web UI from the scripted install18:53
vishycloudnewb01: nope18:53
Vinsh_HPvishy, Thanks for the clarification.  Perfect, I'll digest those Release Notes. Thanks again.18:53
WormManI'd say something snarky about having no supported auth in a 'release' :)18:53
cloudnewb01thought they integrated dashboard in this release18:53
vishyWormMan: hey we support old-style auth18:53
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cloudnewb01anyone know a stable tag to pull for opendash?18:53
vishyin fact, it defaults on in the packages18:53
WormManvishy: yes, once I realized why my users had way too may privs18:53
WormManof course, I have D4 running, not D18:54
WormManso I had to find my own flags18:54
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NashTrash_Hello Openstack'ers19:07
NashTrash_I have a problem I hope you can help me with19:07
NashTrash_A sudden power loss killed off a number of nova compute nodes and my nova-network machine.19:07
NashTrash_BTW I am running Diablo-319:08
NashTrash_The instances seem to mostly come back up, but for some reason my nova-network machine can not seem to connect to the VM network19:08
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NashTrash_I can not ping or anything to any of the VMs19:09
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vishyNashTrash_: vlan mode?19:14
NashTrash_#vishy flat_dhcp19:14
vishyif you do an ip addr19:14
vishydo you see the gateway address on nova-network?19:15
vishy( by default)19:15
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NashTrash_#vishy My VM subnet is 192.168.51.X. is present in ip addr and associated with the br100 interface19:16
NashTrash_8: br100: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN      link/ether 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff     inet brd scope global br100     inet6 fe80::7461:f8ff:fe99:7331/64 scope link         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever19:16
vishythat is your vm network? 51.0/24?19:16
vishyok brctl show19:17
vishyis the bridge bridged into an eth device?19:17
NashTrash_The bridge is on my eth219:17
vishyand is that eth device the right one?  I've noticed that they can switch on reboot19:17
vishyand the vms are bridged in as well?19:18
NashTrash_eth0 is my public interface while eth2 is for the VM side.  Which should br100 be associated with?19:18
vishycan you ping from the vms?19:18
vishydoes eth2 have an address on it?19:18
NashTrash_I can not get to any VM right now.19:19
NashTrash_Let me just double check.  Eth0 has our public IP.  eth2 has 50.1 address.  br100 has 51.1.19:20
NashTrash_the 50.X network is our management interface19:20
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NashTrash_#vishy In nova.conf we have --flat_interface=eth2.  Is this sufficient?19:21
katkeehi, i would like to bind rabbitmq on a specific ip on my host but it seems difficult. my host has a public ip and i don't want rabbitmq to be wide open. any suggestions?19:22
NashTrash_#vishy If we do brctl ifadd br100 eth2 we lose all connectivity to the machine via the 50.1 address19:25
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vishyit actually goes by your gdatabase19:26
vishyso nova-network is supposed to move the bridge onto the interface for you when it comes up19:27
vishyyou might try deleting br100 and restarting nova-network19:27
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vishyyou can't have an ip on the interface if you add it to a bridge19:28
NashTrash_I ran brctl ifadd br100 eth2 and now brctl show has the two associated, but I still don't have connectivity to anything on 51.X19:28
NashTrash_How do I stop the br100?  When I try to delete I get: bridge br100 is still up; can't delete it19:29
sloopifconfig br100 down19:30
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NashTrash_Thanks.  Ok, I stopped it.  Deleted it.  Restarted nova-network.19:31
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NashTrash_br100 is back but still no connectivity to 51.1.  brctl shows the bridge but it is not associated with any interface19:32
vishyyou should check your db19:32
NashTrash_for what?19:32
vishysounds like your network doesn't have eth2 listed19:32
vishyas the interface19:32
NashTrash_In the networks table the bridge_interface column is empty.19:33
NashTrash_Should I set it to eth2?19:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #857671 in keystone "Auth protocol doesn't work properly for admin users" [Undecided,New]
uvirtbotNew bug: #857673 in swift "COPY method fails to handle URL encoding properly" [Undecided,New]
uvirtbotNew bug: #857675 in openstack-ci "Gerrit should allow replying to comments and/or quoting their contents" [Undecided,New]
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NashTrash_Set the column to eth2 and reboot nova-network?19:34
Vinsh_HPvishy, Looks like there was no paste.ini generated on my system.  Is there a way to generate this?  I made sure that in api-paste.ini, the first pipe line s were uncommented.. so noauth is used.. yet I still have ec2 complaining no env variable is set.19:35
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Vinsh_HP--use_deprecated_auth is set to false also19:35
vishyVinsh_HP: how did you install?19:36
vishyapi-paste.ini is in etc/api-paste.ini19:36
vishyor from packages in /etc/api-paste.ini19:36
Vinsh_HPI was running diablo( 4)8-28, today I apt-get installed the diablo final version.19:36
vishyand there is no /etc/api-paste.ini?19:37
Vinsh_HPvishy, Ok, there is /etc/nova/api-paste.ini19:37
vishyyeah that one.  It should be set to use that in /etc/nova/nova.conf19:37
vishyand use_deprecated_auth should be set19:37
vishyin the conf file as well19:38
Vinsh_HPOk use_deprecated_auth is set to false.(set that earlier)19:38
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Vinsh_HPI need to find the flag that specifies api-paste.ini19:38
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andyandy_I update the packages from : "" and nova-volumes fails to start with the following error:  CRITICAL nova [-] Class VolumeManager could not be found19:39
andyandy_any one having the same problem?19:39
Vinsh_HPvishy, When I updated I didn't chose to install the new nova.conf so missed out on some of the new flags.19:40
andyandy_great what are the flags?19:40
Vinsh_HPI am looking for the flag in nova.conf I need to use to point to /etc/nova/api-paste.ini to use noauth19:40
NashTrash_#vishy Does nova-network's br100 have to be associated with any particular interface?19:41
Vinsh_HPNone of the auth flags at  seem to make sense19:41
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Vinsh_HPandyandy_, Found it.. its "--paste_config"19:43
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Vinsh_HPandyandy_, re your volume issue.. did you follow the migration instructions linked off of ?19:44
andyandy_I used the package from ?? do I still need to follow the Diablo release note19:47
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vishyNashTrash_: for multi-machines yes all of the br100s need to be on the same network19:49
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NashTrash_Sorry, but I could really use some additional clarification.19:50
NashTrash_#Vishy my eth2 interface I set as 50.1, while br100 should be 51.1.  Should the DB table for the network have eth2 as the bridge_interface value?19:51
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vishythe code should move the ip for eth2 on to the bridge19:53
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vishyadd the if to the bridge19:53
vishythen add the other ip to the bridge19:53
NashTrash_#Vishy Ok.  Let me try it again.19:53
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uvirtbotNew bug: #857711 in glance "min_ram and min_disk shouldn't ever be NULL" [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #857712 in nova "Compute API casting minram None to int fails" [High,In progress]
uvirtbotNew bug: #857714 in nova "sqlalchemy replies with ResourceClosedError in case of concurrent allocations of IP addresses or volume creations" [Undecided,New]
tjoymy nova control node isn't responding to dhcp requests. help!20:12
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vishytjoy: version?20:24
tjoyooh, release yesterday20:26
tjoyvishy: do you think this could be related to ?20:27
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tjoyoh well.  i will work to install the released version and then come back with any other problems20:30
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vishytjoy: yes i do20:34
vishytjoy: if you got the new dnsmasq and didn't get the fix, your ips may be out of order20:35
vishywhich will stop dnsmasq from responding20:35
tjoysounds like it's time for me to start from scratch then20:36
tjoy'new dnsmasq' being a particular dnsmasq version?20:37
tjoyconfiguration file reads '3, 4, 8, 5' and my dnsmasq version is 2.5720:38
g2_ Hi all: I have a question about assigning a fixed-ip to an instance.20:40
g2_How can I specify a fixed IP address at the time I launch an instance.20:40
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kbringarddoes routing_source_ip need to be set on the compute nodes as well as the network?20:59
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harlowjais there anyway to use openstack/nova-manage/euca to set limits on network i/o and/or view the current limits and txn rates?21:00
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harlowjai see quotas for ram, cores, instances... but nothing for i/o rate limiting21:02
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NashTrash_#vishy Thanks for the help.  Setting the DB entry correctly and a nice full reboot got things working.  You rock.21:23
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NashTrash_bye ya'll21:25
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uvirtbotNew bug: #857778 in nova "nova api v1.0 call serializing xml has no attributes" [Undecided,New]
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rmkIs anyone using the Cactus dashboard with diablo?21:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #857784 in openstack-ci "Gerrit should support case insenstive author email checks" [Undecided,New]
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nhmwow, cloudfuse+swift sounds nice.21:54
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tjoydoes openstack have a mascot? i need to make an addition to my voodoo doll collection22:08
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Vinsh_HPtjoy, Time for some target practice? ;)22:10
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sgdHi all, we're having trouble bringing up an ubuntu instance with a public IP.  We have been allocated IPs by IT, and have tried configuring the network using, but the OS in the instance has no eth0 interface.  We are looking for help.22:14
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tjoysgd: seems like a hypervisor problem. can you post some logs for us to view?22:19
tjoyalso do you mean VLanManager?22:19
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sgdWe have tried using .FlatManager, which did not work.  We most recently tried .NetworkManager, and in this case the instance failed to boot.  Our host's interface is not the default br100; it is virbr0.  That could be an issue.22:21
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sgdIs there a way to specify the name of the bridge interface?22:24
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vishyis a base class22:25
harlowja nova-manage network create --help has a opetion for22:26
harlowja  --bridge=<bridge>     VIFs on this network are connected to this bridge22:26
harlowja  --bridge_interface=<bridge interface>22:26
harlowja                        the bridge is connected to this interface22:26
vishysgd: when you create the network you can specify the interface22:26
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vishyas harlow points out above22:26
sgdthank you, I will try it22:27
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salvdanwent: you here22:30
salvbhall: are you around?22:30
danwentsalv: hey22:30
danwentjust sent an email22:30
salvNot yet checked email22:30
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salvAnyway, I had a better look at nova's quantum manager22:30
bhallI'm here22:31
salvI think the problem with attachment id occurs only if I preallocate ports on the dashboard (or with the quantum cli)22:31
salvis that correct?22:31
danwentsummary: I feel like the empty string isn't very clean, but if we think this is a likely bug for people to trip on, we can use it for 1.0 version of the API22:31
danwentsalv: yes, exactly22:31
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salvgood. We know there are already issues with the dashboard22:31
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danwentstandard model is that quantum manager will create / delete all quantum ports22:32
danwentwhich is why no one that I know of using QM has tripped on this yet22:32
salvSince we already know that there are issues with the dashboard, such as the fact that networks created in the dashboard are ignored by nova22:32
danwentyeah, dashboard model is busted.22:33
danwentsomeone could still trying to play with the cli22:33
salvI think we can probably settle down on the API as it is, changing only the return code for create operations22:33
salvdanwent: right. the cli.22:33
danwenthaha, this is pretty funny.  one probably would have guessed that we would be arguing opposite points here :)22:33
salvThe fact is that I'd love to have a fully functioning Quantum Manager, but I'm afraid on a Friday night I would miss some side effect22:34
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danwentbut there's no way to use the CLI and get IPAM right now, unless you use melange, which isnt' even checked in22:34
salvof changing the behaviour of the API22:34
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salvso can we say that with the current integration between quantum and nova, explicitly using the cli is a bit of a no-brainer?22:34
danwentsalv: which change are you talking about?  the 202 -> 200 or the attachment id?22:34
salvthe attachment id22:35
danwentok, that's what I thought22:35
danwentyeah, we can clarify that in the docs.22:35
danwentto be honest, if you used the CLI to delete a port that QM had created, I suspect that would cause problems as well.22:35
salvI think let's leave this (the att-id) as 'known issue'22:35
salvin release notes22:35
danwentQM hasn't had a lot of negative testing yet :)22:35
danwentsalv: agreed22:36
salvfine, do we anybody from Cisco team online to get their opinion?22:36
danwentbhall:  can you file something to think through these cases a bit more and fix QM where necessary?22:36
danwentsalv: tyler already reviewed the changes and approved, I believe.  let me check.22:37
salvyeah, he did22:37
danwentand tyler is testing the current code… still waiting on him for a thumbs up22:37
salvalso, he made those changes into the Cisco plugin. I'm not sure they were necessary actually.22:37
bhallthey weren't22:37
bhallit was just to be consistent22:37
bhallsince the standard api is returning a 200, their extensions might as well too22:37
salvOk, let's wait for an all-clear from Tyler's tests. I'm going to reject my MP and approve Brad's one.22:38
salvbhall: agreed, make sense22:38
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bhallsalv: Can I edit your bug and then we'll split the two? 202/attid22:38
salvYeah, go ahead, and also attach your branch to the bug.22:38
danwentbtw salv, thanks so much for the testing.  all of our testing had been with the new branch that had been updated, and I didn't realize that there was a critical difference between that and what was shipping with nova diablo :)22:39
salvnp. I should have done that a few days earlier actually.22:39
danwentmuch better late than never :)22:40
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danwentOk, anything else we need to sync on?22:40
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salvNo I think that is all. I will be around for another our or so should you need me.22:41
salvI meant to write 'hour'22:41
danwentworking on quantum late on a friday… you're a trooper salv :)22:42
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salvWell I took the afternoon off... :)22:42
danwentOk, i'll wait for tyler to give a thumbs up from the cisco side, then we can wrap this up22:42
bhallI thought he did already?22:42
danwentbhall:  I asked him to run the tests with the full lp:quantum/diablo branch, just to be sure.22:43
danwent(or maybe you've seen a recent email that I haven't)22:43
bhalloh, I didn't see your email about that22:43
danwentjust got a mail from tyler… one more tiny tweak.22:45
bhalldanwent: did you see that tyler just made anotehr change?22:45
danwentjust in the cisco plugin though22:45
bhalleh.. beat me to it.. ok22:45
salvlooks just another 202 replaced with 20022:45
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danwentyeah, but the diff looks like crap b/c its stacked on the docs changes.  Should still merge cleanly though.22:46
salvah ah more than 15K lines22:46
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danwentyeah, his diff was 2 lines :)22:48
bhallwhile I have you both here... did we need to tackle this bug before the release:
danwentthis needs to happen before the keystone release22:48
danwentwhich is still several weeks off.22:48
bhallooh, right22:48
danwentsalv: correct me if I am wrong, but I believe we never removed the keystone options from the config files22:49
danwentbut its not a big deal because it is disabled by default?22:49
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salvoh, I though Somik took care of that. Anyway it is disabled by default.22:49
danwentsalv:  yeah, no worries.  I think it was just a miscommunication.22:49
salvOps, he assigned the bug to me22:49
salvI feel ashamed22:50
danwentsalv: seriously… not a big deal at all.22:50
danwentwe'll just bump it to essex.22:50
danwentOk, i need to run in a couple minutes to give a talk.  after that, i'll re-run the tests one last time and push the release.  sound good?22:50
salvjust give me a couple of mins22:50
salvok fine22:51
danwentsalv: its up to you22:51
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danwentbut definitely done feel obliged.. its definitely fine left in there, as it is disabled.22:51
danwentI will be back in about half an hour22:51
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Vinsh_HPvishy, So, going back to the auth methods in diablo-final.. I still can't get around the messages that suggest I set an ec2_access key or provide a user name.22:55
Vinsh_HPI added this to nova.conf --paste_config=/etc/nova/api-paste.ini22:56
tjoyIs there interest in a detailed case study of deploying OpenStack on 32-bit hardware?22:57
Vinsh_HPin api-paste.ini I uncommented out the lines used with "noauth" and commented out the lines for the old method.22:57
vishyVinsh_HP: and --use_deprecated_auth?22:57
Vinsh_HPI had "--use_deprecated_auth=false"22:57
Vinsh_HPbut that didn't help22:57
salvbhall, danwent: fix for Bug #855151 proposed for merge22:57
vishyyou want it to be true22:57
vishyif you are trying to use old auth...22:57
bhallsalv: ok, lemme look22:58
Vinsh_HPvishy, no, I want to just try this with the no auth22:58
Vinsh_HPThats why I uncommented out the first line of the paste file22:58
vishyVinsh_HP: I'm with you now22:58
vishyand how are you setting your secret and access key?22:59
vishyand endpoint?22:59
Vinsh_HPBy endpoint do you mean ec2 and openstack endpoints?22:59
bhallsalv: I'll review it in about 30m23:00
Vinsh_HPvishy, Those are specified in nova.conf as usual such as "--ec2_url=http://x.x.x.x:8773/services/Cloud23:00
vishyVinsh_HP: so generally the easiest is to create a user and project and do the old nova-manage project environment to export an rc file23:00
salvbhall: ok, I might be sleeping by that time. I forgot I'm in CET not BST :) Ping me anyway if you need assistance.23:01
vishyVinsh_HP: then you can change the access key or the username and project to anything and it should still work23:01
vishyVinsh_HP: otherwise you'll need to set all the values manually23:01
Vinsh_HPwhen I export that rc file.. where do I save that off to?23:02
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Vinsh_HPI guess when I hear "no auth" I take that to mean that nova and euca commands will run with out any variable set.23:04
Vinsh_HPIt sounds like they still need to be set somewhere though, possible from the rc file you describe.23:04
Vinsh_HPAh, I get it (finally)23:05
Vinsh_HPI sourced the export from nova-manage(using and existing project).  And now have access.23:05
kbringardwhat's the flag to auto-float-ip when an instance launches?23:06
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kbringardwill just adding that to my nova.conf and restarting the API do it, or does it need to be on computes?23:06
Vinsh_HPvishy, So, even though I have to source those items from the export.. nova might not be checking the secret keys or anything because no auth is being used?23:07
Vinsh_HPBTW, thanks for any of these details you share here... I am taking good notes and sharing them with everyone here at HP.. to make sure we don't re-ask anything :)23:09
vishyVinsh_HP: correct23:11
vishyVinsh_HP: the export / source is just faster than typing them all out by hand23:11
Vinsh_HPCool... good to know!23:12
kbringardvishy: with auto_assign_floating_ip, does that need to go on the computes too, or just the controller?23:13
DavieyVinsh_HP: if you symlink your novarc to ~/.eucarc you don't need to source it.23:13
vishykbringard: hmm good question23:14
vishykbringard: i would suspect it has to be set for nova-network only23:14
vishykbringard: but i would have to check23:14
Vinsh_HPDaviey, Ok.  Makes sense.  I was hung up on what no-auth really meant for this.  I thought euca commands and such would just "work".. It sounds like you still need to specify all of the stuff in a novarc file.. but it is not really checking it behind the scenes.23:14
kbringardyea, that's what I was thining too23:14
kbringardI'm trying it as we speak, but figured I'd ask in case it didn't work23:15
DavieyVinsh_HP: Well, how will euca2ools know where to send the API commands?23:15
Vinsh_HPDaviey, Good point.  Its strange though.. I had source my normal novarc already.. but was getting access denied issues.23:16
Vinsh_HPI probably didn't have the paste_ini file setup right yet.23:16
vishyVinsh_HP: keep in mind that euca2ools is an external tool23:16
vishyas is python-novaclient (sortof)23:16
Vinsh_HPBeing dropped soon toor ight?23:16
Vinsh_HP*too right23:16
DavieyI don't think i've ever used noauth TBH.23:16
vishyVinsh_HP: so they still have to be configured somehow23:17
DavieyVinsh_HP: wait, what is being dropped?23:17
Vinsh_HPnova commands were not working either.  but nova also needs to know which end point to talk to.23:17
Vinsh_HPDaviey, Oh, I thought I heard something about more focus around the nova open stack commands going forward. not sure..was on some bug report23:18
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DavieyVinsh_HP: EC2 API will not go away, even though some people wish it would :)23:19
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