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| vishy | beekhof: basically yes | 00:00 |
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| beekhof | thanks. i appreciate your time | 00:01 |
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| B-wong | here is the error | 00:03 |
| B-wong | http://pastebin.com/TJLRJhy1 | 00:03 |
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| vishy | B-wong: probaby you need to do a nova-manage role add <user> netadmin | 00:04 |
| vishy | followed by a nova-manage role add <user> netadmin <project> | 00:04 |
| beekhof | vishy: why get rid of hosts table? would be a natural place to store host capacity information | 00:04 |
| vishy | services does the same thing | 00:05 |
| vishy | generally there is 1 service per host | 00:05 |
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| beekhof | ah ok | 00:05 |
| beekhof | so instead of global max_cores/max_gigabytes/etc would it be feasible to add those as per-service settings? | 00:06 |
| crussell_ | B-wong - do an env - you se things like your ec2 access key? | 00:09 |
| B-wong | vishy: I tried whta you suggested. It is still not working | 00:10 |
| B-wong | crussell_: http://pastebin.com/KsEZSwma | 00:10 |
| vishy | can you do any other euca commands? | 00:11 |
| crussell_ | Tried creating a new user, new project, grabbing new creds? I've had simliar problems during my initial install | 00:11 |
| B-wong | alrighty | 00:11 |
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| vishy | is your user a member of the undtertone project? | 00:11 |
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| B-wong | should be | 00:13 |
| B-wong | i used nova-manage project add | 00:13 |
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| crussell_ | test | 00:13 |
| crussell_ | nm | 00:13 |
| B-wong | so the user is Admin | 00:15 |
| B-wong | do I have to be logged in as Admin? | 00:15 |
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| B-wong | because im logged in as root right now | 00:15 |
| vishy | no | 00:15 |
| vishy | try nova-manage role has <user> netadmin <project> | 00:15 |
| B-wong | it says | 00:16 |
| B-wong | True | 00:16 |
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| vishy | hmm | 00:18 |
| vishy | so that isn't the issue then | 00:18 |
| vishy | which version of nova are you running? | 00:19 |
| vishy | are you sure you are using the right access key for that user? | 00:19 |
| vishy | * right access and secret keys | 00:19 |
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| B-wong | how do you check the version | 00:24 |
| B-wong | how do you know the key is right for the user? | 00:25 |
| B-wong | I look at env i see a key | 00:25 |
| B-wong | and i see the user | 00:25 |
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| B-wong | Ill paste the commands i typed to make creds | 00:28 |
| B-wong | hold on | 00:28 |
| B-wong | http://pastebin.com/zVTke6DH | 00:28 |
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| vishy | that looks fine | 00:39 |
| vishy | you will want to add sysadmin as well | 00:39 |
| vishy | not sure why you would be getting 401 there | 00:40 |
| vishy | you might want to check nova-api.log to see if it has any useful messages | 00:40 |
| vishy | wait a sec | 00:43 |
| vishy | i see it | 00:43 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #877001 in openstack-dashboard "Can't disable a tenant through the syspanel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877001 | 00:51 |
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| livemoon | Morning | 01:04 |
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| magg | im getting this error after running euca-run-instances | 01:05 |
| magg | nbd15 receive control failed result -32 | 01:05 |
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| magg | the instance also says pending | 01:11 |
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| crussell_ | yay, i fixed my compute node - no more restarts | 01:19 |
| vishy | do you have the nbd kernel module installed? | 01:19 |
| crussell_ | question - if i disable my node2 nova-compute, and then restart my compute serve on node 2 will it reenable it? | 01:20 |
| magg | heey | 01:21 |
| magg | heads up | 01:21 |
| magg | keystone doesnt work on ubuntu 11.10 | 01:21 |
| magg | i get this | 01:21 |
| magg | sudo keystone-manage tenant add "MyTenant" | 01:21 |
| magg | ERROR: (OperationalError) unable to open database file None None | 01:21 |
| crussell_ | I found keystone wasn'st runing when i tried. | 01:22 |
| crussell_ | ps -aux | keystone | 01:22 |
| crussell_ | err ps-aux| grep keystone | 01:22 |
| magg | vishy: how do i install nbd kernel module? | 01:23 |
| vishy | modprobe nbd | 01:23 |
| magg | ps aux | grep keystone | 01:24 |
| magg | keystone 748 0.0 0.0 2832 884 ? Ss 17:36 0:00 su -c keystone --log-dir=/var/log/keystone --log-file=api.log keystone | 01:24 |
| magg | keystone 752 0.0 1.3 25940 13440 ? S 17:36 0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/keystone --log-dir=/var/log/keystone --log-file=api.log | 01:24 |
| magg | magg 6693 0.0 0.0 4188 796 pts/1 S+ 20:23 0:00 grep --color=auto keystone | 01:24 |
| magg | vishy: done how do i check if its on | 01:24 |
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| livemoon | hi, can anyone help me? | 01:28 |
| livemoon | openstack@keystone-test:~$ curl -H "X-Auth-Token:999888777666" http://localhost:35357/users{"IdentityFault": {"message": "Unhandled error", "code": "500", "details": "'NoneType' object has no attribute | 01:28 |
| magg | crussell_: that says keystone is running right | 01:28 |
| magg | ? | 01:28 |
| livemoon | when I use "curl -H "X-Auth-Token:999888777666" http://localhost:35357/users | 01:28 |
| crussell_ | Ok, i think i just found a bug | 01:28 |
| livemoon | I got 500 code | 01:28 |
| crussell_ | How do i report it? Just to have a spot.. and possibly try to recreate in a few days. | 01:29 |
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| hugokuo | morning | 01:32 |
| livemoon | hi, hugokuo. If you are free ,I want to ask some question in gtalk. | 01:34 |
| hugokuo | livemoon , k | 01:34 |
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| magg | hey one question | 01:45 |
| magg | in keystone-manage token add 999888777666 admin admin 2015-02-05T00:00 | 01:45 |
| magg | what is admin | 01:45 |
| magg | I created an admin called MyAdmin | 01:45 |
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| magg | ???? | 01:49 |
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| mjfork | it is user project | 02:15 |
| mjfork | if your admin is MyAdmin | 02:15 |
| mjfork | and the project is admin | 02:15 |
| mjfork | keystone-manage token add 999888777666 MyAdmin admin 2015-02-05T00:00 | 02:16 |
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| livemoon | hi, "ERROR 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'enabled'" | 02:29 |
| livemoon | how this happens when using keystone | 02:30 |
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| livemoon | anybody here? | 02:39 |
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| mjfork | yes, i went through that | 02:45 |
| mjfork | what are you trying to do | 02:45 |
| livemoon | hi, myfork | 02:45 |
| livemoon | hi, mjfork | 02:45 |
| mjfork | what command are you running? | 02:47 |
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| livemoon | I just running curl -H "X-Auth-Token:999888777666" http://localhost:35357/v2.0/tenants | 02:48 |
| livemoon | or glance -A 999888777666 index | 02:48 |
| livemoon | the errors are same | 02:48 |
| mjfork | my guess is you are missing a role assignment or similar | 02:49 |
| mjfork | did you create that token for the admin user in the admin project? | 02:50 |
| mjfork | keystone-manage token add admin admin | 02:50 |
| mjfork | that syntax/ | 02:50 |
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| backburner2 | why do snapshot always just stayed queued in the dashboard? | 02:53 |
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| livemoon | mjfork: not role problem | 03:03 |
| livemoon | I have create all the needed role, users and tenant | 03:04 |
| mjfork | then missing permissions | 03:04 |
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| mjfork | i believe i fixed htis by logging into sqllite db | 03:04 |
| backburner2 | is anyone able to create a snapshot in dashboard? | 03:05 |
| mjfork | does your admin user have the Admin role? | 03:05 |
| mjfork | backburner2 can't help you, never seen a snapshot featuer | 03:05 |
| livemoon | yes | 03:06 |
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| livemoon | id | password | email | enabled | tenant_id | | 03:06 |
| livemoon | +-------+----------+-------+---------+-----------+ | 03:06 |
| livemoon | | admin | p4ssw0rd | NULL | 1 | 1 | 03:06 |
| backburner2 | under user dashboard you don't have a snapshot sub menu? | 03:06 |
| mjfork | backburner no, not on diablo release i have | 03:07 |
| mjfork | livemoon: that doesn't show Admin role | 03:07 |
| mjfork | where did you get that snapshot? | 03:07 |
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| mjfork | doesn't look like the keystone DB | 03:08 |
| backburner2 | i used devstack to install openstack and there it is | 03:08 |
| mjfork | backburner2 must be a new feature, not sure. | 03:08 |
| backburner2 | not sure how to get my version for dashboard | 03:08 |
| backburner2 | no wonder no one will anser me for days about it haha | 03:09 |
| backburner2 | anyone know from the command line how to snapshot an instance to a launchable image? | 03:09 |
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| livemoon | mjfork:id | desc | service_id | | 03:23 |
| livemoon | +----------------------+------+------------+ | 03:23 |
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| livemoon | | Admin | NULL | NULL | | 03:23 |
| livemoon | this from roles table; | 03:24 |
| mjfork | SELECT * FROM user_roles; | 03:24 |
| livemoon | admin | Admin | admin | 03:25 |
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| mjfork | i think that 3rd admin may be your problem? | 03:25 |
| mjfork | my tenant_id is null for my admin | 03:26 |
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| mjfork | my tenant_id is also null in my users table | 03:32 |
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| hugokuo | I think it's ok ... | 03:34 |
| hugokuo | bcz the relationship of user and tenant and role has been wrote in user_roles | 03:35 |
| mjfork | but i believe teh service tries to load it without a role | 03:35 |
| mjfork | it doesn't find it | 03:35 |
| mjfork | and that is what leads to the NoneType error | 03:35 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #877046 in nova "Misleading error message --bridge interface is required" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877046 | 03:35 |
| hugokuo | where did u get the error? | 03:36 |
| hugokuo | from SIWFT client ? | 03:36 |
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| backburner2 | is crowbar worth a look? | 03:53 |
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| backburner2 | anyone using it? | 03:53 |
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| mjfork | demo was impressive at the conference | 04:00 |
| mjfork | depending on your use case, could look at orchestra/juju from Canonical | 04:01 |
| livemoon | I have done it | 04:02 |
| livemoon | thanks mjfork | 04:02 |
| mjfork | livemoon: yeah? that fixed it? | 04:03 |
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| backburner2 | yea juju looks awesome | 04:06 |
| backburner2 | needs docs though | 04:06 |
| livemoon | mjfork: No module named ec2_token | 04:08 |
| livemoon | do you meet this error? | 04:08 |
| mjfork | hmm | 04:09 |
| mjfork | whats the stack trace from the logs? | 04:10 |
| mattray | backburner2: Crowbar is under active development, mailing list is here: https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/crowbar They're working on Diablo support right now: https://github.com/dellcloudedge | 04:10 |
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| livemoon | mjfork: 2011-10-18 12:04:44,565 CRITICAL nova [-] No module named ec2_token | 04:11 |
| livemoon | when I use nova wiht keystone and start nova-api | 04:12 |
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| mjfork | so nova and keystone are on same box? | 04:16 |
| mjfork | livemoon: is this diablo? trunk? | 04:17 |
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| jasona | g'day | 04:18 |
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| jasona | hmm. | 04:19 |
| jasona | anyone currently running openstack swift on top of gpfs as a storage layer ? | 04:20 |
| mjfork | jasona: i don't know of anyone, but i am interested | 04:20 |
| mjfork | livemoon: i think the problem is in your /etc/nova/api-paste.ini | 04:20 |
| jasona | if people aren't running it on top of such a layer, how are they implementing it currently ? | 04:21 |
| mjfork | jasona: should say, i am interested in what you find out. | 04:21 |
| jasona | directly onto jbods ? | 04:21 |
| mjfork | JBODS is what it is designed for | 04:21 |
| jasona | i am talking to a bunch of the usual vendors who are all coming back asking 'so can you put openstack on top of our fs layer instead of jbods' | 04:21 |
| mjfork | what vendors? | 04:22 |
| jasona | e.g emc with isolon, netapp with infortrend.. hp with ibrix and so on | 04:22 |
| jasona | isilon even | 04:22 |
| mjfork | ok | 04:22 |
| mjfork | System Requirements | 04:22 |
| mjfork | Hardware: OpenStack Object Storage specifically is designed to run on commodity hardware. At Rackspace, our storage servers are currently running fairly generic 4U servers with 24 2T SATA drives and 8 cores of processing power. RAID on the storage drives is not required and not recommended. Swift's disk usage pattern is the worst case possible for RAID, and performance degrades very quickly... | 04:22 |
| jasona | i.e they are saying, if you have a fs layer can you put openstack onto that instead. | 04:22 |
| mjfork | ...using RAID 5 or 6. | 04:22 |
| jasona | sure, i've read that and i understand.. the 'problem' as it were is.. if you have a torage platform already.. does this really mean you have to do more than one | 04:23 |
| jasona | or can you adapt the existing one into doing OS side by side with existing storage filesystems. | 04:23 |
| jasona | it's fine if the answer is 'no' but just trying to make sure it really is no :) | 04:23 |
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| mjfork | I am not the right one to answer that :-) | 04:24 |
| jasona | so do you have an os install right now then ? | 04:24 |
| mjfork | yes, but not in production | 04:24 |
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| mjfork | more of a toy | 04:25 |
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| jasona | do you have any plans to move it from being a toy ? | 04:25 |
| mjfork | no, not presently | 04:25 |
| mjfork | since you mentioned GPFS, are you an IBM shop? | 04:25 |
| jasona | do you know anyone here who is using it for more than a toy ? i talked to john about bits of this before his oscon presentation | 04:25 |
| jasona | but i've been swamped in between | 04:25 |
| jasona | not an ibm shop per se, but there is some kit on the ground that is ibm | 04:26 |
| hajik | Hello where can I find a guide for the openstack dashboard in ubuntu 11.10.... I installed it but i dont know where are the files I need to configure | 04:26 |
| jasona | but certainly talking to a bunch of different vendors | 04:26 |
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| hajik | ?? | 04:34 |
| hajik | anybody | 04:34 |
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| jasona | sorry hajik, don't know. | 04:34 |
| hajik | thanks anyway | 04:35 |
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| livemoon | hi | 05:09 |
| livemoon | who know "2011-10-18 12:04:44,565 CRITICAL nova [-] No module named ec2_token | 05:09 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #877091 in openstack-qa "/nova/notifier/api.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877091 | 05:43 |
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| livemoon | hi | 05:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #877115 in openstack-qa "/nova/notifier/no_op_notifier.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877115 | 06:22 |
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| siwos | hi | 06:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #860160 in quantum "Add code coverage support to quantum" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/860160 | 06:31 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #877121 in openstack-qa "nova.quota" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877121 | 06:31 |
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| livemoon | hi,siwos | 06:40 |
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| livemoon | I have installed keystone, how to test it works well with nova? | 06:46 |
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| Familyguy | Anyone here using Scientific Linux 6.X with openstack? I'm assuming so since CERN is involved in both projects. :) | 06:59 |
| pradeep | Familyguy: i am trying now. | 07:00 |
| Familyguy | Are you using the RHEL6 install instructions? | 07:00 |
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| pradeep | yep | 07:03 |
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| Familyguy | Excellent. Dipping my toe in the water. Have a few racks of HP DL380's to test with for a few months. It was between this and Eucalyptus. Documentation here is a lot more spartan, but the project goals are more compatible with what I'm donig. | 07:06 |
| Familyguy | errr....doing | 07:06 |
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| kaigan_ | Familyguy: e "few" racks, nice! :) | 07:11 |
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| Familyguy | Kaigan: an embarrassment of riches to be sure. They're not earmarked for "real work" until mid-Q1 2012 so I figured that would be a perfect opportunity to jump in the deep end of the pool and see what this openstack thing is about. :) | 07:16 |
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| Familyguy | The sparse documentation is a bit daunting, but I'm pressing on. | 07:17 |
| kaigan_ | community is great however Familyguy, you'll get good answers in here and on the groups | 07:19 |
| Familyguy | That's what I'm hoping for. Looking forward to it. | 07:21 |
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| bobry_ | Hello, I've installed openstack using 'devstack' script, but all instances I launch from 'openstack-dashboard' are stuck with 'Build' status. And what's even more suprising, none of them show up in 'nova-manage vm list' output. Any hints? | 07:25 |
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| GheRivero | morning | 08:16 |
| Razique | morning :) | 08:22 |
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| crayon_z | Hi,folks | 08:26 |
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| crayon_z | I have a question about swift 1.4.3 version | 08:28 |
| livemoon | hi, Razique | 08:28 |
| livemoon | I am waiting for you all the day | 08:29 |
| Razique | oi livemoon :) | 08:29 |
| Razique | what's up ? | 08:29 |
| livemoon | have you installed dashboard? | 08:29 |
| Razique | nope :) | 08:30 |
| Razique | still fighting with the python novaclient | 08:30 |
| Razique | it's going better | 08:31 |
| Razique | now Keystone works as an entrypoint for the auth. | 08:31 |
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| livemoon | ok | 08:31 |
| Razique | keystone forwards the calls to the right service, eg Nova | 08:31 |
| Razique | but nova, I've tokens errors :D | 08:31 |
| Razique | you ? | 08:31 |
| livemoon | how do you test nova with keystone | 08:32 |
| Razique | I use that = https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient | 08:32 |
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| livemoon | I will try | 08:34 |
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| livemoon | Razique: how to use? | 08:35 |
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| livemoon | I export NOVA_URL=http://192.168.200.22:5000/v2.0/ | 08:36 |
| livemoon | then use nova? | 08:36 |
| Razique | put in ur bashrc files the following globals : NOVA_URLhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2747/ | 08:37 |
| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2747/ | 08:37 |
| koolhead17 | hi all | 08:37 |
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| livemoon | hi, koolhead17 | 08:38 |
| koolhead17 | hello livemoon . how are you ? | 08:38 |
| livemoon | not good,hah | 08:38 |
| livemoon | NOVA_REGION_NAME="REGION" what REGION means? | 08:38 |
| livemoon | Razique: can you give me an example? | 08:39 |
| Razique | livemoon: the region describe the "location" of the endpoint | 08:40 |
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| Razique | keystone has a table "endpoint_templates" which makes the relation between the service (swift, nova, glance) and it's url | 08:41 |
| Razique | you can regroup those services under a logical "region" | 08:41 |
| Razique | here is what i figured so far SERVICE:REGION | 08:41 |
| Razique | oups, service;type | 08:42 |
| Razique | nova:compute; glance:image, swift;storage | 08:42 |
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| zykes- | does gance have a bug in it's diablo release towards keystone or am I doing something wrong? keystone requires "auth" to be present in the body of the request and glance doesn't send it ? | 08:43 |
| zykes- | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/diablo/keystone/logic/types/auth.py < i'm looking at this and comparing it with https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/stable/diablo/glance/common/auth.py | 08:43 |
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| livemoon | Razique: you install novaclinet via git? | 08:48 |
| livemoon | I install it via apt, and found not support --region | 08:48 |
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| Razique | livemoon: yup, take the last version from github :) | 09:09 |
| Razique | plus few hours ago, a fix has been commited that fixes the region's handling | 09:10 |
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| zykes- | Razique: for what? keystone ? | 09:11 |
| Razique | zykes-: yup | 09:11 |
| zykes- | so you're not on diablo release ? ;p | 09:11 |
| Razique | I am | 09:11 |
| Razique | diablo + keystone | 09:11 |
| Razique | $ | 09:11 |
| zykes- | diablo version of keystone as well or ? | 09:11 |
| zykes- | and glancE ? | 09:11 |
| Razique | but I was unable to retrieve a correct endpoint from keystone | 09:11 |
| Razique | last version from github, the one into the ppa is too old | 09:12 |
| Razique | keystone and nova atm, but they both work on the same way I guess :) | 09:12 |
| Razique | zykes-: you've been able to use keystone with a service ? | 09:12 |
| Razique | I've 2011-10-18 11:11:03,369 WARNING nova.api.openstack [-] None could not be found with token '53852788695577377' | 09:12 |
| Razique | it's like keystone is not properly forwarding the token to nova | 09:12 |
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| zykes- | Razique: i'm trying to get it to work with swift + glance | 09:13 |
| zykes- | i got it to work but then i started using glance and it borked | 09:13 |
| Razique | ah | 09:13 |
| Razique | ok ok | 09:13 |
| zykes- | seems nothing is working :( | 09:13 |
| Razique | what ur swift endpoint looks like into the database ? | 09:14 |
| Razique | I've this for nova : http://172.16.40.11:8774/v1.1/%tenant_id% | 09:14 |
| Razique | I think the "%tenant_id% " is not the right variable; but I'm not sure | 09:14 |
| zykes- | | 3 | RegionOne | 1 | https://swift.stack.lan:8080/v1/AUTH_%tenant_id% | swift.admin.stack.lan | http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/AUTH_%tenant_id% | 1 | 0 | | 09:14 |
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| Razique | ok | 09:16 |
| Razique | what is your tenant id ? | 09:16 |
| Razique | is it an id or a "name" ? | 09:16 |
| zykes- | not sure | 09:17 |
| livemoon | Razique: how do you installed keystone? apt or github? | 09:17 |
| Razique | livemoon: github | 09:17 |
| zykes- | i just use all components from "diablo" but nothing seems to be working as expected.. | 09:17 |
| Razique | the PPA version is too old ;) | 09:17 |
| zykes- | which is kind of fuzzy | 09:17 |
| livemoon | ok , I will reinstall it | 09:17 |
| Razique | zykes-: I know what u mean, I spend the whol day yesterday, I only understant a bit better today ^^ | 09:17 |
| zykes- | like if you install the keystone diablo version and glance it's not working | 09:18 |
| zykes- | so i dunno how they mean by it being production ready :p | 09:18 |
| Razique | zykes-: I was exactly saying the same thing | 09:18 |
| Razique | Keystone will become the main auth service quickly (eg entry point for everything against openstack service) | 09:19 |
| Razique | but at the same time, there is not any clear doc | 09:19 |
| Razique | which is kind of scary :D | 09:20 |
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| superbobry | can anyone please explain how keystone is related to nova credentials (which are mentioned in *all* official guides)? | 09:21 |
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| Razique | superbobry: I'm not sure right now, but nova-api connects to keystone, since you interface them | 09:23 |
| Razique | and when you request for a nova stuff, via keystone, it transmits the request, via these famous "endpoints" | 09:24 |
| Razique | an endpoint for keystone is the location of a given service | 09:24 |
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| superbobry | hm, the same should apply to all openstack components, right? | 09:25 |
| superbobry | glance for instance | 09:25 |
| Razique | yup | 09:25 |
| Razique | totally, glance is also an endpoint for Keystone | 09:25 |
| Razique | endpoint : region, name, service, and url | 09:25 |
| Razique | name : glance, service : image, url : http://IP:9292/$api_version/ | 09:26 |
| Razique | that's how Keystone is considered as an auth service | 09:26 |
| superbobry | okay, so how am i supposed to call `glance index` now? the docs describe old 'novarc' method | 09:27 |
| Razique | but I also could be totally wrong since the beginning :p | 09:27 |
| superbobry | :) | 09:27 |
| Razique | the glance binary doesn't use the api, so no need to use keystone for that | 09:27 |
| zykes- | have you tested glance with keystone rav? | 09:27 |
| zykes- | Razique: | 09:27 |
| Razique | it's the same as the "nova-mange" command, which dosn't work with nova-api | 09:27 |
| Razique | zykes-: I'm finishing to interface it with nova | 09:28 |
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| Razique | basically, you need two things | 09:28 |
| livemoon | It seems my keystone does not work well with nova and glance | 09:28 |
| livemoon | ServiceCatalogException: Invalid service catalog service: image | 09:28 |
| Razique | 1 - add an extra line into the conf : --api_paste_config=/etc/nova/api-paste.ini | 09:28 |
| livemoon | nova.conf? | 09:29 |
| Razique | 2 - into the file, add keystone auth servicehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2748/ | 09:29 |
| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2748/$ | 09:29 |
| Razique | that is how nova is able to communicate with keystone | 09:29 |
| Razique | add the 1- into nova.conf | 09:29 |
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| Razique | and the 2- into api-paste.ini, at the end of the file, and restart nova-api | 09:30 |
| Razique | I'm quite sure the connection works that way, cuz; when I run a nova list, I see hits into nova-api.log | 09:30 |
| Razique | while nova list calls keystone :) | 09:30 |
| Razique | nova list ---> keystone ----> compute-endpoint ----> nova | 09:31 |
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| sannes | When I try to boot a vm the status is BUILD afterwards and never progresses from there, and I don't seems to find any errors in the logs, also I don't see any images in /var/lib/nova/instances/ (if it matters) any idea where I should start looking? | 09:31 |
| superbobry | sannes: same issue here — exactly | 09:31 |
| Razique | sannes, look at the nova-compute.logs, it's like the compute node is unable to retrieve the image | 09:32 |
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| Razique | into the log, u'll be able to see the image's URL | 09:32 |
| Razique | get it, and try to run the get manually | 09:32 |
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| sannes | Razique: Ah, you are right, think my tail -f * had me confused, there is a crash and a repeated warning (nova.rpc): TRACE: Error: Error from libvirt while looking up instance-00000006: [Error Code 38] Cannot write data: Broken pipe .. atleast I can debug it now :) thanks | 09:35 |
| livemoon | Invalid service catalog service: compute (HTTP 404) | 09:36 |
| Razique | hehe :) | 09:36 |
| livemoon | Razique: I am no errlog in nova-api.log | 09:36 |
| Razique | check the connectivity between the imaging service and the elected compute node | 09:36 |
| livemoon | but I cannot use keystone with nova | 09:36 |
| Razique | livemoon: what command did u run ? | 09:36 |
| livemoon | in dashboard | 09:37 |
| zykes- | Razique: what do you get if you do a curl towards keystone ? | 09:37 |
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| Razique | zykes-: yes, you could try | 09:38 |
| Razique | here it works | 09:38 |
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| zykes- | can you install yajl and give me a paste of your curl | json_reformat ? | 09:38 |
| Razique | {"auth": {"passwordCredentials": {"username": "$user", "password": "$password"}}} | 09:38 |
| Razique | sure | 09:38 |
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| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2749/ | 09:40 |
| Razique | livemoon: zykes- here is the database scheme | 09:40 |
| Razique | this one seems to work | 09:40 |
| livemoon | I use "nova list" and get "Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials" | 09:41 |
| Razique | livemoon check the user and the api key | 09:41 |
| livemoon | Razique: use curl? | 09:42 |
| Razique | livemoon: run nova --debug list | 09:43 |
| Razique | you 'll be able to catch the param you send. I use that tool in order to debug all that stuff http://code.google.com/p/rest-client/ | 09:43 |
| zykes- | why does it return endpoints andthen in there several more endpoint keys ? :| | 09:43 |
| Razique | u should use it guys :D | 09:43 |
| Razique | zykes-: keystone ? | 09:44 |
| zykes- | yes Razique | 09:44 |
| Razique | with which tool ? novaclient ? | 09:44 |
| zykes- | using curl | 09:44 |
| zykes- | if you look at say the glance code for auth | 09:44 |
| superbobry | hm, weird — I get broken pipe error in glance-api, probably that's why the vm is stuck in 'Build' | 09:45 |
| zykes- | glance_info = resp_auth['serviceCatalog']['glance'] it looks for the "glance" key from the loaded json data and since it only has alot of "endpoints" it breaks... | 09:45 |
| livemoon | Razique: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2750/ | 09:45 |
| zykes- | so no wonder it's not working | 09:45 |
| zykes- | ttx: are you nearby? | 09:45 |
| Razique | livemoon: you are not using keystone here, is it what u want ? | 09:46 |
| livemoon | Razique: it's my novarc file:http://paste.openstack.org/show/2751/ | 09:46 |
| Razique | zykes-: coud you paste the keystone result | 09:46 |
| Razique | the one you get by hitting the root address | 09:47 |
| zykes- | http://pastebin.com/34gFQGGq | 09:47 |
| livemoon | Razique: I want to know how to use keystone and how to use eucatools both. | 09:47 |
| Razique | htt://$keystone:port/v2.0/ | 09:47 |
| zykes- | is the result of a auth | 09:47 |
| Razique | livemoon: euca2ools don't work with keystone I think | 09:47 |
| ttx | zykes-: yes | 09:47 |
| zykes- | ttx: is there any known bugs for glance / swift with keystone for diablo ? | 09:48 |
| livemoon | Razique: if I want to use keystone to auth, what need I export? | 09:48 |
| ttx | zykes-: I heard of some, yes | 09:48 |
| Razique | livemoon: the url needs to ben the keystone one | 09:48 |
| Razique | the port also | 09:48 |
| Razique | which is by default the port 5000, 8774 is used by nova-api | 09:49 |
| zykes- | ttx: any plans to fix it ? ;p | 09:50 |
| livemoon | nova list --url=xxxx ? | 09:50 |
| ttx | zykes-: I guess it depends where you get your "diablo" from. Keystone was not in diablo... Some distros shipped keystone and updated diablo packages though | 09:51 |
| zykes- | ttx: right now i'm testing with glance + keystone "diablo" branches from github | 09:51 |
| zykes- | as i mentioned the glance stuff looks for endpoints["glance"] which clearly won't work since keystone returns a diff scheme | 09:52 |
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| ttx | zykes-: right, that's why you'd need a post-diablo glance | 09:52 |
| zykes- | ttx: how much "post"? | 09:52 |
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| zykes- | cause funky thing is looking at trunk as well it's the same glance_info = resp_auth['serviceCatalog']['glance'] | 09:53 |
| ttx | zykes-: I don't know. As far as core project release management is concerned (my world), I hope to have a working one at essex-1, and I try to guarantee we have a working combination by Essex release | 09:54 |
| ttx | Downstream distributions might have different concerns and ship updates | 09:54 |
| Razique | zykes-: Ok, it's moving :) | 09:54 |
| zykes- | Razique: what's moving ? | 09:55 |
| Razique | it's like nova is able to send the x-auth-token | 09:55 |
| Razique | after I submit the x-auth-user and key | 09:55 |
| Razique | BUT | 09:55 |
| ttx | zykes-: basically, Keystone was not a core project for Diablo, which is part of the reason it's not working straght from diablo branches | 09:55 |
| Razique | then iit's unable to work with the token he just sent me | 09:55 |
| Razique | "message" : "This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser does not understand how to supply the credentials required.", | 09:55 |
| ttx | Doesn't mean you can't get it to work with some amount of updates and fixes... but that's what downstream distributions of openstack can opt to do | 09:55 |
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| zykes- | ttx: why wasn't there something called "diablo+" or whatever one mentioned to do then ? | 09:56 |
| Razique | while before the whole migration nova was able to use my x-auth-token | 09:56 |
| zykes- | so people can have a better life in making it work with diablo | 09:56 |
| ttx | zykes-: I think that's Rackspace Cloud Builders downstream branches that plan to do a diablo+ | 09:57 |
| ttx | though you could also consider Ubuntu 11.10 packages to be a diablo+ | 09:58 |
| ttx | Basically all downstream distributions ship some kind of diablo+ | 09:58 |
| ttx | They all apply fixes | 09:58 |
| zykes- | only thing i know is that i try to get it to work and until now i've been unable to | 09:58 |
| ttx | If you question is "which ones actually ship code that works with Keystone" I don't have the answer | 09:59 |
| Razique | zykes-: ok I made it work!!! | 10:02 |
| zykes- | for nova raz? | 10:02 |
| Razique | in fact , the nova uses the x-auth-token, defined into the keystone datase | 10:02 |
| Razique | for glance also | 10:03 |
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| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2752/ | 10:03 |
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| zykes- | Razique: what versions do you use ? | 10:03 |
| Razique | Glance and Nova diablo from PPA, keystone from github | 10:04 |
| livemoon | Razique: nova --debug --url=http://192.168.200.22:5000/ --username=admin --apikey=p4ssw0rd list | 10:04 |
| livemoon | this command ok? | 10:04 |
| Razique | but, there is that thing…. nova expects the x-auth-token, which is a temporary one (24 hours) | 10:04 |
| zykes- | Razique: newest keystone or ? | 10:05 |
| Razique | the novaclient sends that key, I had to hard-put it into the database, under the tokens table | 10:05 |
| Razique | zykes-: yes, latest version | 10:05 |
| Razique | it's like keystone is unable to retrieve itself the x-auth-token | 10:05 |
| Razique | the "doc" says "Now you add a default token for the admin user to get when requesting a token." | 10:06 |
| Razique | livemoon: yup | 10:06 |
| zykes- | ttx: how is one supposed to know which stuff works with which when some docs say something and something else something else ? | 10:07 |
| ttx | zykes-: Core projects for Diablo were Swift, Glance and Nova. That's what supposed to work if you take the core Diablo branches. | 10:08 |
| livemoon | Razique: but errlog:http://paste.openstack.org/show/2753/ | 10:08 |
| zykes- | wasn't packaging of the ubuntu ppa closed or something ? | 10:09 |
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| Razique | livemoon: it looks like the user doens't exist | 10:10 |
| ttx | zykes-: Some downstream distributions will release Diablo+ packages that work with other things, that's their added value | 10:10 |
| Razique | livemoon: show me the keystone "root" | 10:10 |
| Razique | http://keystone:5000/v2.0/ | 10:10 |
| ttx | zykes-: and their documentation might just say "diablo" | 10:10 |
| ttx | The fact that RCB is one of those downstreams and that they manage the doc might add to the confusion | 10:11 |
| zykes- | Razique: if you do a "glance index" | 10:12 |
| zykes- | does that work for you with keystone enabled ? | 10:12 |
| Razique | zykes-: I don't think Glance uses the API in fact | 10:12 |
| Razique | let me try | 10:12 |
| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2754/ | 10:13 |
| zykes- | yeah, but do you have keystone enabled for your glance install ? | 10:13 |
| Razique | zykes-: yes | 10:13 |
| Razique | I added the stuff for keystone : http://paste.openstack.org/show/2755/ | 10:14 |
| Razique | zykes-: I know how to test it I'll make REST hits to keystone in order to call glance | 10:15 |
| Razique | don't know how yet but.. :D | 10:15 |
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| sannes | Is there any particular version of libvirt nova (git master) should be running with? | 10:16 |
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| livemoon | Razique: keystone "root"? | 10:16 |
| Razique | zykes-: but in fact, Keystone simply forwards the endpoints | 10:17 |
| Razique | that means, the keystone filter are used in that purpose | 10:17 |
| Razique | you ask keystone "give me the endpoint for the "image" service" | 10:18 |
| Razique | then via the json/ xml response, you retrieve the "public_url" of a endpoint | 10:18 |
| Razique | that what the novaclient does in fact | 10:18 |
| Razique | livemoon: yah, run a hit to http://$keystone:5000/v2.0 | 10:18 |
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| zykes- | uhm, Razique glance index looks for servicecatalog > glance | 10:19 |
| zykes- | when it get's it from the auth | 10:19 |
| zykes- | that is where it fails | 10:19 |
| Razique | zykes-: are you sure glance looks for that into keystone ? | 10:19 |
| Razique | I looked that the logs | 10:20 |
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| Razique | glance runs itself the Myslq queries, so neither keystone, nore glance-api calls :) | 10:21 |
| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2756/ | 10:21 |
| zykes- | glance client i think wants a response | 10:21 |
| zykes- | Razique: you have OS_AUTH_STRATEGY etc set ? | 10:22 |
| zykes- | as env variables | 10:22 |
| Razique | nope | 10:22 |
| zykes- | uhm, then you're not using keystone and glance ? | 10:22 |
| zykes- | together for auth | 10:22 |
| Razique | I've read that I only add the stuff into the glance-registry.conf file | 10:23 |
| livemoon | Razique: it's : http://paste.openstack.org/show/2757/ | 10:23 |
| superbobry | INFO nova.compute.manager [-] Found 2 in the database and 0 on the hypervisor. — can any run those two folks manualy somehow? | 10:23 |
| Razique | zykes-: have u doc for the connection glance <-> keystone ? | 10:23 |
| zykes- | Razique: https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/6ca5c56079a173c00ae2876c1fd05d82dfe1a9e9/doc/source/authentication.rst | 10:24 |
| Razique | maybe I did it wrong | 10:24 |
| zykes- | is the newest for thunk | 10:24 |
| zykes- | i'm giving up soon.. | 10:26 |
| Razique | thanks for the link | 10:28 |
| Razique | maybe I'm not using Keystone well | 10:28 |
| Razique | for instance, into my nova.conf the admin_token doesn't correspond to the one into keystone database | 10:28 |
| Razique | and the novaclient is working | 10:29 |
| Razique | so… don't know really how these auth work anymore man | 10:29 |
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| zykes- | i just know i've spent too much time tinkering with it already... | 10:31 |
| zykes- | i thought it would be a ok thing todo but so much for that | 10:31 |
| Razique | zykes-: yah so do I, I was seriously thinking that I made it work until u sent me ur link | 10:32 |
| Razique | we need the big picture here obviously | 10:32 |
| zykes- | has anyone had success with it lately ? | 10:32 |
| Razique | well not here | 10:33 |
| Razique | and I've spent hours on the web looking for usefull doc, but doesn't exist | 10:33 |
| Razique | that would be nice to have a keystone project's manager who would write some doc on how to use it | 10:33 |
| sannes | Anyone had libvirt crashing while reading some xml net filter rules? | 10:34 |
| superbobry | that would be nice uhuh | 10:34 |
| Razique | sannes: nope sorry | 10:35 |
| TooExcited | Hello, gentlemen! Do you know if it's possible to assign floating IPs through the OpenStack API? | 10:37 |
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| TooExcited | The equivalent of euca-allocate-address, euca-associate-address | 10:37 |
| sannes | Everytime I try to boot a server it segmentation faults libvirt without anything in the libvirt log .. | 10:38 |
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| Razique | zykes-: ok, we are on the right track obviously http://mirantis.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-is-this-keystone-anyway.html | 10:39 |
| superbobry | i wonder if all euca* commands are deprecated, with all that keystone migration going | 10:40 |
| superbobry | none of them seem to work anymore | 10:41 |
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| zykes- | Razique: question is is there a way to get glance going | 10:45 |
| zykes- | and the whole "stack" with keystone in diablo | 10:45 |
| superbobry | sannes: have you figured out the 'Build' issue? | 10:50 |
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| sannes | superbobry: Each time I fix something, something new pops up, so it still has problems, right now I'm trying to figure out why libvirt is crashing | 11:04 |
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| sannes | superbobry: seems the status is ERROR right now | 11:05 |
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| superbobry | hm, i get a feeling that my vms don't even get to the libvirt stage | 11:10 |
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| sannes | superbobry: What do they stop on? | 11:20 |
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| superbobry | sannes: i'm trying to debug it right now, with little success though | 11:23 |
| superbobry | compute worker keeps telling me "Found 2 in the database and 0 on the hypervisor." | 11:24 |
| superbobry | like it never received run_instance request from the api | 11:24 |
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| sannes | hm, my nova-compute says the same thing on startup, I actually just get the libvirt stuff when I create them .. | 11:27 |
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| livemoon | hi,Razique | 11:40 |
| livemoon | are you here? | 11:40 |
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| livemoon | hi,all | 11:59 |
| superbobry | hello :) | 12:02 |
| livemoon | hi,superbobry | 12:03 |
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| livemoon | I still have some error on keystone with nova and glance | 12:08 |
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| livemoon | If using dashboard, does it need to install python-novaclient? | 12:14 |
| Razique | yah I'm back | 12:14 |
| Razique | was home looking at the third ep of Dexter :D | 12:14 |
| Razique | livemoon: well both are complementary I'd say | 12:14 |
| Razique | I don't know if the dashboard fully implements the API compared to the cli | 12:15 |
| livemoon | oh,I remember,it will install novaclient itself when installing via git. | 12:16 |
| Razique | ah ok | 12:16 |
| Razique | good then :) | 12:16 |
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| livemoon | now I still cannot use glance and novaclient via keystone | 12:17 |
| jasona | hmm. | 12:17 |
| livemoon | I am on the underground. when I get home, I will ask for you Razique. | 12:18 |
| livemoon | hi, jasona | 12:18 |
| jasona | g'day livemoon | 12:18 |
| Razique | ok ok | 12:18 |
| Razique | hey jasona | 12:19 |
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| jasona | so i was having a brief discussion with someone earlier.. anyone willing to continue it.. on broad architectural concepts of OS (rather than specific technical issues..) | 12:19 |
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| livemoon | Razique: have you seen the keystone "root" I paste earlier? | 12:20 |
| jasona | just came out of a meeting a few hours ago in which i was told how large an openstack node had to be built and well.. kinda scared about how well it would go in 'production' use :) | 12:20 |
| Razique | livemoon: not sure ^^ | 12:21 |
| livemoon | jasona: which storage tech can be used in 'production'? | 12:23 |
| jasona | well, one of the storage platforms proposed is gpfs for some research systems. | 12:23 |
| jasona | i don't know that openstack lends itself to be sitting on top of gpfs.. so.. | 12:24 |
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| jasona | (i get different feedback on this) | 12:24 |
| livemoon | gfs? | 12:25 |
| jasona | gpfs. | 12:25 |
| jasona | ibm's clustered filesystem. | 12:25 |
| livemoon | opensource? | 12:25 |
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| hugokuo | test | 12:27 |
| backburner2 | I am more interested in lustre. | 12:27 |
| jasona | nope live. commercial. but with deals for research places. | 12:27 |
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| jasona | back: i'm interested too and i know people who are using lustre in production use but.. well, some of the community has real issues with it. | 12:28 |
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| livemoon | clustered or distributed? | 12:28 |
| jasona | the storage layers i have looked at are gpfs, lustre and ceph. with side bits of zfsonlinux | 12:28 |
| jasona | how do you differentiate live ? i would say gpfs is a clustered fs and perhaps lustre/cept are distributed ? would you agree with that ? | 12:29 |
| mjfork | those storage layers all have very different purposes than OS correct? | 12:29 |
| jasona | hey mjf. | 12:29 |
| mjfork | OS is not an alternative to GPFS, Lustre, or Ceph | 12:30 |
| jasona | ok. is it an alternative to hadoop ? | 12:30 |
| backburner2 | technical problems with lustre or moral problems because of oracle? | 12:30 |
| jasona | back: technical problems rather than moral | 12:30 |
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| mjfork | jasona: yes, those are an alternative to HDFS | 12:31 |
| jasona | one research group here is unhappy that their lustre fs for the group currently goes read only frequently. | 12:31 |
| jasona | and thus they have turned to gpfs | 12:31 |
| jasona | but i digress a bit. | 12:31 |
| jasona | so.. one storage requirement is.. large filesystems for researchers who want hundreds of terabytes (petabytes) attached to a machine to just work on. | 12:32 |
| jasona | the other is.. large numbers of VMs that need attached storage | 12:32 |
| jasona | well, maybe not that large. the conversation today was around the 4k cores of VMs. | 12:33 |
| backburner2 | gluster has an new openstack connector , but rumor is redhat is going to kill it | 12:33 |
| mjfork | for the first - do they want a filesystem or an object store? | 12:33 |
| mjfork | and the second, OS is not an option | 12:33 |
| jasona | mjf: well a filesystem or a filesystem inside an object store ? | 12:33 |
| mjfork | i don't believe that is a supported use case for OS | 12:34 |
| mjfork | its an http-based put/get store...not sure how you have an FS inside it | 12:34 |
| jasona | well, what exactly does swift give you then ? :) the demo shows creating a volume and attaching it.. as an ext3 fs. what am i missing there ? | 12:35 |
| mjfork | that wasn't switft then | 12:35 |
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| mjfork | it was nova-volume, which uses iSCSI | 12:35 |
| jasona | oic. ok. | 12:35 |
| mjfork | there are other nova-volume connecters that talk to netapp (announced at the conference 2 weeks ago) and for gluster I believe | 12:36 |
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| mjfork | the default implemenation shipped with Nova uses iScsi and LVM | 12:36 |
| jasona | interesting. | 12:36 |
| mjfork | do you need Amazon S3 style storage? | 12:36 |
| FabriceB | what's the purpose of a distributed fs with open stack ? | 12:37 |
| FabriceB | two VM accessing the same data ? | 12:37 |
| FabriceB | like an old fashioned cluster ? | 12:37 |
| notmyname | jasona: swift is good for and unstructured data that can grow without bound (backups, static we resources, documents, etc) | 12:37 |
| notmyname | s/we/web/ | 12:37 |
| jasona | good q mjf. i guess the assumption was 'yes' because if you were deploying amazon style cloud for the VMs, the thinking was that you should deploy amazon style storage for it alongside as well. | 12:37 |
| mjfork | there is EBS vs S3 | 12:38 |
| jasona | so with nova, you really need to deloy nova-volume to talk to say iscsi luns for your VM os disks etc and s3 storage for.. hmm | 12:38 |
| mjfork | what you are talking abuot sounds like EBS style, not S3 | 12:38 |
| jasona | hmm. | 12:38 |
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| mjfork | i get the impressoin you need VMs with block storage | 12:39 |
| mjfork | that mount an external FS like your GPFS | 12:39 |
| jasona | hmm. | 12:39 |
| FabriceB | that mount block device as far as i know | 12:39 |
| mjfork | any of your VMs have long-lived storage or are they all transient? | 12:39 |
| FabriceB | that can be provided using iscsi | 12:39 |
| FabriceB | or locale image | 12:40 |
| jasona | define 'transient' please ? there are definitely datasets that are persistent.. but.. | 12:40 |
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| mjfork | the datasets persist, but they live on GPFS or similar irght? | 12:42 |
| jasona | currently yes. | 12:42 |
| jasona | looking at various options into the future | 12:42 |
| mjfork | ok, then the VMs spin up and get the data from GPFS they need | 12:43 |
| mjfork | do some processing, probably weight back to GPFS | 12:43 |
| FabriceB | is gpfs mandatory ? | 12:43 |
| mjfork | weight = write | 12:43 |
| jasona | it isn't mandatory but gpfs is what i have on the floor now. i'm certainly looking at all the various vendor options | 12:44 |
| jasona | isilon is one. hp have ibrix. netapp talk about their shared fs as well on E series.. | 12:44 |
| jasona | mjf: yep. | 12:44 |
| jasona | the project is about providing infrastructure to researchers 1) to make it easier for them to spin up VMs | 12:45 |
| FabriceB | jasnon; to provide image to attache to VM ? | 12:45 |
| jasona | and 2) help other people find this data | 12:45 |
| jasona | and 3) provide a long term home for it | 12:45 |
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| jasona | one of the big issues identified here with research data was simply that if it's not online somewhere then it's impossible for people to find it / make use of it etc.. so.. | 12:45 |
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| FabriceB | jasona: plain iscsi was too slow ? | 12:46 |
| mjfork | i think you need to seperate this into multiple pieces | 12:46 |
| FabriceB | ho, you want a shared storage ? like good old nfs ? | 12:46 |
| FabriceB | but with performance of block devices ? | 12:46 |
| jasona | fabrice: there are various flaws with iscsi or nfs that gpfs helps to address. | 12:47 |
| jasona | even if you then nfs export a directory sitting on top of gpfs.. | 12:47 |
| jasona | sharing a fs between VMs is just one of them. | 12:47 |
| FabriceB | that's becomming strange to me | 12:47 |
| jasona | well here is an example of gpfs deployment | 12:48 |
| jasona | storage server w/ metadata and attached block storage as gpfs failure group 1 | 12:48 |
| jasona | same as above, but gpfs failure group 2 | 12:48 |
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| jasona | you can then attach a physical host (or a VM) as a gpfs node and if you need to take either group down, the service keeps going. | 12:48 |
| jasona | simple enough ? | 12:48 |
| FabriceB | ok | 12:48 |
| mjfork | is the GPFS in production now and holding all of the reease data? | 12:48 |
| FabriceB | ease nfs cluster | 12:48 |
| FabriceB | easy | 12:49 |
| mjfork | research | 12:49 |
| FabriceB | i got it | 12:49 |
| jasona | mjf: i couldn't honestly say 'production' quite yet but it's awfully close. | 12:49 |
| jasona | fab: i'm reasonably familiar with nfs (perhaps less so with pnfs/clustered nfs) and one of the things that gpfs brought was the ability to add storage or do maintenance 'on the fly' which seemed like something nfs is less able to do. | 12:50 |
| FabriceB | jasona: for that nfs relies on the fs storage | 12:51 |
| mjfork | so, it sounds like your OpenStack question is how do I get VMs that can access the GPFS storage to run jobs? | 12:51 |
| FabriceB | it provides no help | 12:51 |
| FabriceB | or perhaps nfs 4.1 | 12:51 |
| jasona | fab: yep. so then the question came back to.. if you can just do that with gpfs clients directly, why bother with NFS unless you had some specific requirement to access data that way (e.g if you didn't want to use a gpfs client for some reason) | 12:52 |
| jasona | mjf: that's one q, yes | 12:52 |
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| FabriceB | yes, i get you're point | 12:52 |
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| FabriceB | but gpfs provides acces to shared block device | 12:53 |
| FabriceB | so you still needs to publish them to a vm | 12:53 |
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| FabriceB | and so iscsi strikes back ? | 12:53 |
| jasona | so going back to it, if i have a shared fs of some sort (gpfs, stornext, OneFS etc) that's great for data sets etc | 12:53 |
| jasona | but 1) how do i tie them back into VMs provided through OS ? | 12:54 |
| FabriceB | OS aka object storage ? | 12:54 |
| jasona | and 2) where exactly does the OS storage model come into it (e.g swift) | 12:54 |
| jasona | 1 referred to OS compute. nova. | 12:54 |
| jasona | 1) may be simple. have a gpfs client inside OS (nova) vms. or have them access a nfs server. | 12:55 |
| jasona | don't know what i don't know though, hence the q. | 12:55 |
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| mjfork | yes on #1 | 12:56 |
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| mjfork | your OS image would have the GPFS client in it to access the FS | 12:56 |
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| jasona | ok. | 12:58 |
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| mjfork | on #2, I would suggest reading up on Amazon S3 | 13:03 |
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| mjfork | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_S3 | 13:03 |
| mjfork | its not a filesystem, but has buckets which contain objects | 13:04 |
| mjfork | Buckets and objects can be created, listed, and retrieved using either a REST-style HTTP interface or a SOAP interface. | 13:04 |
| jasona | so an example might be, create an image for a VM and then use an s3 approach to create a bucket to put that VM file into the bucket | 13:05 |
| jasona | yes ? | 13:05 |
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| mjfork | no, the VMs are not stored in a buckey | 13:05 |
| mjfork | however, a snapshot backing up a VM could be | 13:05 |
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| mjfork | typically you store large, long lived objects in the store | 13:06 |
| mjfork | pictures, entire datasets, etc. | 13:06 |
| mjfork | anohter use case is backups | 13:06 |
| mjfork | i dump my database everynight, i take the resulting file and put it to the Object Store | 13:06 |
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| jasona | sorry, i didn't mean a live VM. yes if you took a snap and wanted to store it somewhere, s3 is good for it as a store. | 13:07 |
| jasona | i.e you are dealing with everything as objects rather than posix fs. | 13:07 |
| mjfork | the best uses are the Write Once, Read many | 13:07 |
| mjfork | yes, exactly | 13:07 |
| mjfork | objects can be updated, but the best uses are WORM ones | 13:07 |
| jasona | or if you have to deal with it as a posix fs, then it's an awfully slow (well convoluted) since it involves a helper app to pull your object out, make a change and put it back ? | 13:08 |
| mjfork | yeah, there are adapters to use S3 like a filesystem...but hard to believe thats much more than a toy | 13:08 |
| mjfork | if you want a FS, deploy a FS | 13:08 |
| notmyname | mjfork: +1 | 13:09 |
| mjfork | jasona: one potential use for Swift in your environment is storing output of long runs | 13:12 |
| mjfork | i am assumign researchers read from GPFS, do some calcs, and generate output | 13:12 |
| jasona | yep. | 13:12 |
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| mjfork | that could be stored in swift, although my gut tells me they would want it on GPFS | 13:13 |
| crussell | Opinion, what is the best method for shared disk storage to utilize live migrations? | 13:15 |
| mjfork | as in ... a SAN vs NAS? | 13:16 |
| crussell | method, not technology | 13:16 |
| crussell | I seem to be having some difficulties with nfs.. sharing back to the primary node | 13:16 |
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| mjfork | i have never done it, but may be able to help. whats the issue? | 13:19 |
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| livemoon | who meet use glance with keystone this error: AttributeError: 'RequestContext' object has no attribute 'is_image_visible' | 13:28 |
| crussell | mjfork? You speaking to me? | 13:28 |
| mjfork | crussell: yes, you said you had a problem, but not specifics | 13:28 |
| crussell | If so, the primary issue is this: A requirement to utilize NFS is that the UID and GID match between compute nodes that you intend on sharing disks. Well.... every time I attempt to change th UID to GID to match on the secondary compute node. | 13:29 |
| crussell | THe compute services go completely crazy. | 13:29 |
| crussell | It will just start flapping, and never stay started. | 13:29 |
| crussell | I've tried by changing through usermod, i've tried by precreating accounts ( installer didn't like ), i've tried modifying /etc/passwd and /etc/group | 13:30 |
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| annegentle | hey Razique I need to respond to your mailing list item, thanks for doing that | 13:30 |
| crussell | to no avail.. same results. | 13:30 |
| Razique | hey annegentle no pb | 13:30 |
| Razique | I've also have a pending commit, I thnik u'll be the one to validate it :D | 13:31 |
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| crussell | To even get compute node back to a stable state.. I have to remove everything including dependancies, clean out accounts, groups, log files, conf files... then reinstall. | 13:31 |
| crussell | And once i do that.. back in the same boat..... | 13:31 |
| annegentle | Razique: ok, cool! thanks for the heads up. I need to figure out my mail filters to make sure those rise to the top of my inbox :) | 13:31 |
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| Razique | u sure u don't have a filter that trashes the mails that contain my name ? :p | 13:32 |
| annegentle | Razique: so if we start a working group just on nova doc, I don't know if I can head it up specifically since I'm responsible for all the projects not just nova. | 13:32 |
| annegentle | Razique: ha ha ha no :) | 13:32 |
| annegentle | Razique: but if you or kbringard or someone else is interested in heading up the working group I'd be happy to help | 13:32 |
| * annegentle tries to not overcommit and be fair | 13:32 | |
| Razique | you could delegate people to branches yah | 13:32 |
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| livemoon | Razique ： i am glad to help .too | 13:33 |
| Razique | thus we could have independant cycles for every project | 13:33 |
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| Razique | awesome then livemoon :) | 13:33 |
| kbringard | what are we talking about? | 13:33 |
| Razique | hey kbringard :) we are talking about working groups for openstack documentation | 13:34 |
| kbringard | oooo, working group for nova | 13:34 |
| kbringard | I have not had my coffee this morning, to bleary eyes make it hard to read | 13:34 |
| Razique | hehe | 13:34 |
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| annegentle | hee | 13:35 |
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| annegentle | I'm in California this week and up before the sun :) | 13:36 |
| annegentle | but yes, you guys talk about it think about it - and I'll see who else might be interested too | 13:36 |
| annegentle | I'm also interested in the api working group since that's relevant to docs too | 13:36 |
| kbringard | ah, coffee, giver of life | 13:38 |
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| livemoon | today I will go to bed early | 13:40 |
| livemoon | tired | 13:40 |
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| Razique | livemoon: Keystone killed you | 13:42 |
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| fabio | hello people. i'm having problems in making openstack working on a multiple node setup. actually i am bit confused... i have a server with 2 interfaces (controller) and the nodes have only one interface. is this enough to run a cloud? | 13:42 |
| Razique | annegentle: yah, sure, I'm totally up to lead that part, glad if I could help with kbringard on that part | 13:43 |
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| backburner | is this channel logged and searchable by chance? | 13:43 |
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| annegentle | Razique: awesome | 13:43 |
| livemoon | Razique: I have finished glance with keystone :) | 13:43 |
| Razique | livemoon: awesome! | 13:44 |
| Razique | how do you use it | 13:44 |
| Razique | ? | 13:44 |
| annegentle | backburner: yep, use eavesdrop.openstack.org and then use Google's site: filter on your search in Google | 13:44 |
| Razique | I'm almost done with nova and keystone here | 13:44 |
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| Vadim2 | hi all | 13:44 |
| livemoon | wait a min, I write in my blog | 13:45 |
| Vadim2 | guys eucatools work with keystone? | 13:46 |
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| Razique | Vadim2: not that i"m sure of | 13:51 |
| Razique | wait let me try :D | 13:52 |
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| Razique | not at all :D | 13:54 |
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| fabio | just yes/no is strongly appreciated | 14:05 |
| livemoon | hi | 14:05 |
| jeh | I'm having problems getting glance, and keystone to play nice together. Could someone familiar with them take a look at my config please: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2759/ | 14:06 |
| livemoon | Razique | 14:06 |
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| Razique | livemoon: | 14:06 |
| Razique | o/ | 14:06 |
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| livemoon | Razique: http://livemoon.dyndns.org/life/2011/10/openstackglance-and-keystone.html | 14:08 |
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| livemoon | it's my blog | 14:08 |
| Razique | great ; thanks a ton ! | 14:08 |
| Razique | very apreciated into the Keystone's doc desert | 14:09 |
| Razique | is it ok if we reuse it for the doc ? | 14:09 |
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| koolhead17 | livemoon: cool!! | 14:09 |
| livemoon | not now | 14:09 |
| Razique | ok, u tell me | 14:09 |
| livemoon | maybe i will test some days | 14:09 |
| Razique | I'm myself gathering infos, the much we have, the better it is | 14:10 |
| livemoon | :) | 14:10 |
| Razique | so livemoon when you perform a task such as "glance index" you go through Keystone ? | 14:11 |
| livemoon | yes, I use glance -A "token" index | 14:11 |
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| Razique | ok perfect | 14:12 |
| jeh | that sounds similar to the problem I'm having, I can't get glance index to work without using -A | 14:12 |
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| Razique | glance: error: no such option: -d | 14:19 |
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| Razique | mmm maybe Glance from the repo doesn't have such token option | 14:19 |
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| crussell | Ok, i've finally fixed my stupid second compute server. Does anyone have any good walk through in getting LIVE_MIGRATIONS working? | 14:20 |
| Razique | crussell: here http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/live-migration-usage.html | 14:21 |
| Razique | today, the only way to perform migration is to use the api | 14:21 |
| Razique | that one implements the migraiton https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient | 14:21 |
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| crussell | with nova-manage vm live_migrations? correct? | 14:21 |
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| kbringard | crussell: the main thing is that the instance directory needs to a shared resource that all compute nodes have read/write access to | 14:22 |
| Razique | oh yes you are right | 14:22 |
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| Razique | you could also you nova-manage, my bad | 14:22 |
| crussell | kbringard: ON that note | 14:22 |
| crussell | kbringard: here is what i've tried, and what has broken it everytime. | 14:22 |
| crussell | kbringard: NFS, exported from priamry cluster, and then mounted on the secondar. | 14:23 |
| crussell | on the secondar, i stopped compute, deleted instances dir, recreate with right permissions, then mounted to that dir | 14:23 |
| crussell | I have my uid, gid mathing now, and permission show right now.. but it neverseems to migrate. the command successfully goes, adn it says to just watch euca-describe-instances | 14:23 |
| kbringard | hmmm | 14:24 |
| kbringard | I've not setup live migration in many months, but when I did that was all I did :-/ | 14:24 |
| kbringard | so perhaps it's bugged? | 14:24 |
| livemoon | pastbin how to past picture? | 14:25 |
| Razique | livemoon: imageshack sorry ^^ | 14:26 |
| tjoy | that's giving up | 14:26 |
| tjoy | base64 encode it | 14:26 |
| Razique | crussell: try to use the virsh command mannualy | 14:26 |
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| Razique | i think it's virsh --migrate --live $domain ssh+qemu://$host2/system | 14:26 |
| livemoon | Razique: http://livemoon.dyndns.org/life/images/Screen%20Shot%202011-10-18%20at%2010.15.15%20PM.png | 14:26 |
| Razique | and u'll see on the seconde node via virsh --list if the domain appears | 14:27 |
| livemoon | it is my screen | 14:27 |
| livemoon | I think glance via keystone | 14:27 |
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| Razique | livemoon: could you run appart a $ tail -f /var/log/keystone/* | 14:28 |
| Razique | while you run a glance -A $token index | 14:28 |
| crussell | ok i will try that.. giving it a shot again | 14:29 |
| Razique | so we make sure it's keystone which forwards the right endpoint ? | 14:29 |
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| crussell | Grrrr... | 14:37 |
| crussell | Someone please look at this documention, http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-live-migrations.html | 14:37 |
| crussell | specifically the part about the export. | 14:37 |
| livemoon | Razique: | 14:37 |
| livemoon | http://pastebin.com/b59xGRBW | 14:37 |
| crussell | Doesn't this line NOVA-INST-DIR/instances HostA/255.255.0.0(rw,sync,fsid=0,no_root_squash) make the assumtion that i am running nova service as root? | 14:38 |
| livemoon | it is keystone log when I use glance -A "token" index | 14:38 |
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| livemoon | Razique: why every debug twice, i don't know | 14:38 |
| Razique | ok so it's definitely working :) | 14:38 |
| Razique | Do you use Glance from the repo ? | 14:39 |
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| livemoon | yes | 14:39 |
| livemoon | use apt-get in 11.10 | 14:39 |
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| catbot_ | Hi, in diablo, I cannot i18n the dashboard with {% trans "my string" %}, but it worked fine when using gettext() in view.py. I'd just like to know if anybody has the same issue | 14:40 |
| Razique | livemoon: what dpkg -l | grep glance outputs ? | 14:40 |
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| catbot_ | additional, {% trans "my string" %} works fine on cactus | 14:40 |
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| livemoon | Razique: ii glance 2011.3-0ubuntu4 OpenStack Image Registry and Delivery Service - Daemons | 14:42 |
| livemoon | ii python-glance 2011.3-0ubuntu4 OpenStack Image Registry and Delivery Service - Python library | 14:42 |
| Razique | weird we have the same version | 14:42 |
| Razique | but the flag -A doesn't work here | 14:42 |
| livemoon | Razique: bye | 14:42 |
| livemoon | see you tomorrow | 14:42 |
| Razique | ok ok | 14:42 |
| Razique | thanks ;) | 14:42 |
| livemoon | np | 14:43 |
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| crussell | Yeah, this documentation is out of date | 14:48 |
| crussell | http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-live-migrations.html | 14:48 |
| crussell | Also, check file/daemon permissions. We expect any nova daemons are running as root. | 14:48 |
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| crussell | Which is not at all the case with the install on natty. | 14:48 |
| crussell | It runs everything as nova. | 14:48 |
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| crussell | I'm going to figure it to run as nova.. how to i contribute the changes for this docs? | 14:51 |
| jeh | Is keystone-manage user delete supposed to work? I get http://paste.openstack.org/show/2761/ | 14:51 |
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| annegentle | crussell: would love updates, the source is in http://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals - specifically in doc/src/docbkx/openstack-compute-admin/computeconfigure.xml | 14:58 |
| crussell | thanks, if i have any troubles i will reach out.. | 14:59 |
| annegentle | jeh: I've "heard" on here (IRC) that it only does add? | 14:59 |
| annegentle | crussell: great, thanks - it works like the code does, see http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow or http://wiki.openstack.org/Documentation/HowTo | 14:59 |
| crussell | noted | 15:00 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #877417 in nova "Formatting error for error messages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877417 | 15:00 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #877425 in openstack-common "urls in novarc are wrong generated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877425 | 15:00 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #877305 in openstack-qa "/nova/notifier/list_notifier.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877305 | 15:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #877291 in openstack-qa "/nova/notifier/log_notifier.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877291 | 15:05 |
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| jeh | annegen: looks like it, although keystone-manage user help says it should work. I've submitted a bug report. | 15:08 |
| annegentle | jeh: ok, sounds like the right course of action :) | 15:09 |
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| gnu111 | swift question: I was able to upload files. But my accounts, objects, containers, and tmp directories in the nodes are all world reabable. Something is off. | 15:14 |
| FabriceB | there is no security in swift storage node | 15:15 |
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| FabriceB | they should be protected from the “outside world” | 15:15 |
| FabriceB | whatever it is | 15:16 |
| gnu111 | ok | 15:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #877504 in keystone "v0.9 keystone-manage user delete not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877504 | 15:16 |
| notmyname | gnu111: are they set as the right user? and what what uid is the process running with? | 15:16 |
| notmyname | FabriceB: completely different | 15:16 |
| gnu111 | notmyname: swift:swift | 15:16 |
| FabriceB | notmyname: rsync is also world-open in storage nodes | 15:17 |
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| FabriceB | and no easy way to protected it | 15:17 |
| notmyname | gnu111: to clarify, the permissions are set as 777? | 15:17 |
| gnu111 | Yes. drwxrwxrwx | 15:17 |
| FabriceB | drwxrwxrwx 2175 swift swift 49152 Oct 11 15:37 /srv/node/loop7/objects | 15:18 |
| notmyname | gnu111: I was just told that it's a known bug that has a patch coded but as yet unreleased | 15:18 |
| FabriceB | same here | 15:18 |
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| FabriceB | but : [container] | 15:18 |
| FabriceB | max connections = 2 | 15:18 |
| FabriceB | path = /srv/node/ | 15:18 |
| FabriceB | read only = false | 15:18 |
| FabriceB | lock file = /var/lock/container.lock | 15:18 |
| FabriceB | in rsyncd.conf, as request | 15:19 |
| FabriceB | that's almost the same | 15:19 |
| FabriceB | no authentication | 15:19 |
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| FabriceB | uid = swift | 15:19 |
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| FabriceB | http://pastie.org/2718168 | 15:19 |
| notmyname | FabriceB: no easy way to protect the rsync connections? the advice has always been to not run it on a public network | 15:20 |
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| gnu111 | my $PROXY_LOCAL_NET_IP is set to a private ip. | 15:20 |
| FabriceB | but giving every one already on that network full access | 15:20 |
| FabriceB | that's too much | 15:20 |
| FabriceB | that's an egg security | 15:20 |
| FabriceB | one the first layer is broken, everything is full open | 15:20 |
| FabriceB | once | 15:21 |
| FabriceB | and by broken, juste one plain user with nobody access is enough | 15:21 |
| FabriceB | so even the tape operator can read all data | 15:21 |
| gnu111 | notmyname: do you have the link to the bug report? | 15:21 |
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| notmyname | gnu111: let me look | 15:22 |
| robix | any insight on adding nova-volume to keystone services? Or, what's the proper way to expose nova-volume API? Should I just create another service type "volume"? | 15:22 |
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| gnu111 | notmyname: is it this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/869235 ? | 15:24 |
| notmyname | ya. just found that. looks like it | 15:24 |
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| crussell | Can someone please perform a live-migration, and tell me what is supposed to occur after my last line listed in http://pastebin.com/wpMZp8Uh | 15:26 |
| crussell | The migration never completes | 15:26 |
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| FabriceB | https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg04745.html | 15:27 |
| FabriceB | the rsync configuration i gave gives exactly the same right than a umask 0 | 15:28 |
| FabriceB | and that's the configuration provided by swift | 15:28 |
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| notmyname | FabriceB: I'd be happy to review a patch that adds more security to the internal parts of swift | 15:32 |
| FabriceB | but there is a lot of things to be done | 15:32 |
| FabriceB | a good umask | 15:32 |
| FabriceB | a secure rsync | 15:32 |
| FabriceB | does the communcation between storage and proxy authenticated ? | 15:33 |
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| notmyname | no (it uses standard http) | 15:33 |
| FabriceB | i'm not talking about encryption | 15:34 |
| FabriceB | juste authentication | 15:34 |
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| crussell | Unable to pre-create chardev file '/var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000114/console.log': Permission denied | 15:38 |
| crussell | seems to be my problem | 15:38 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #877525 in quantum "Unit tests dump log to stdout/stderr" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877525 | 15:41 |
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| Oneiroi | may sound odd, anyone got the openstack logo as ASCII ? so I can inject it into node motds's ? | 16:14 |
| FabriceB | you can always try : http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca | 16:15 |
| Oneiroi | Yeh I _could_ I suppose | 16:17 |
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| Oneiroi | or ... http://www.text-image.com/convert/ascii.html | 16:18 |
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| Oneiroi | but the webone is infact crap >< | 16:19 |
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| robix | can anyone confirm the syntax to add nova-volume to the keystone service list? | 16:53 |
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| hajik | hello | 18:45 |
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| heckj | hajik: ola | 18:45 |
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| hajik | if i have 2 machines with 160gb and 1gb of ram, will i be able to run an instance? im guessing only a tiny one, right? | 18:46 |
| heckj | a tiny one (ttylinux) should work | 18:46 |
| hajik | ok | 18:46 |
| hajik | thanks | 18:46 |
| heckj | 1gb is awfully small though, you might have some trouble with that | 18:46 |
| heckj | (i.e. VERY slow) | 18:47 |
| hajik | damn... | 18:47 |
| hajik | where can i find ttylinux images? | 18:47 |
| crussell | Question: How does highavailability look in nova-compute? And fundementally how would it work? | 18:47 |
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| heckj | crussell: not sure I grok your question - is it "how do I make the nova-compute service highly available"? | 18:48 |
| heckj | hajik: there's a link in the devstack.org scripted install, and I'm sure it's listed in the wiki somewhere | 18:49 |
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| hajik | ok thanks | 18:49 |
| crussell | Well at i read... virtuals are still a one to one relationship to their compute host. Live migration can be setup, but i see nothing about heartbeats to test availability of a virtual. SO therefore if a compute server goes down, so does it's virtuals. | 18:50 |
| crussell | Further, network communications route through the nova-network. | 18:50 |
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| crussell | If it goes down, well that is a big issue. | 18:50 |
| crussell | I see the advantages of scaling out/wide with simple ease, and metering that scale.. | 18:51 |
| heckj | crussell: yeah, you've got it - that's the state of the union today. There's nothing managing orchestration of the existence of VMs on a compute node should that node fail. | 18:51 |
| crussell | but how do i ensure it stays up, and moves sites if necesary | 18:51 |
| heckj | crussell: most of the philosophy of using VM's in this kind of environment has been to assume they're disposable and ephemeral, easy recreated. | 18:52 |
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| heckj | crussell: to do that means changing a lot of currently-commonly-used architectures for making applications, which is why nova also has enabled live-migration to make it easier to adopt and move in | 18:53 |
| crussell | well given that, predefined virtuals to attach to a nova-swift volume for data does you no good if the system isn't wise enough to know itself is down | 18:53 |
| hajik | i found these: http://smoser.brickies.net/ubuntu/ttylinux-uec/ | 18:53 |
| heckj | hajik: that's it! | 18:53 |
| hajik | yay, nice | 18:53 |
| heckj | crussell: most of the HA work has been in making the control plane for IaaS highly available, with the expectation that a failure of a piece of hardware shouldn't take down the overall system. It will still, however, loose VMs in that process. | 18:54 |
| crussell | heckj: ok, what about putting a load balancer in front of and behind a network node to atleast begin creating site survivability | 18:54 |
| crussell | heckj | 18:55 |
| crussell | ok, so is this the intended direction forever? | 18:55 |
| heckj | crussell: absolutely - that's where incoming projects like Atlas are making some inroads, and there's talk about orchestration over the top of OpenStack (maybe a part of OpenStack - that's getting into philosophical discussions that are ongoing) to do some of what you're talking about | 18:55 |
| heckj | crussell: In a project like this, there's never a "intended direction forever". | 18:56 |
| crussell | And it makes me wonder how rackspace provides 4 9's for these systems, given that it's their intial baby | 18:56 |
| heckj | crussell: You can influence where this project goes and what it does simply by submitting code - the joy of an open and open-source project | 18:56 |
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| crussell | Yeah no i get it, i'm just an engineer for a company that wants to make a jump into markets like this but the investment and return is always the question | 18:57 |
| crussell | And my cio is only concerned about up time. | 18:57 |
| heckj | crussell: I totally get where you're coming from - switching to "cloud technologies" without also considering your application architecture in doing so is a recipe for disaster. I've been there, walked into a few of those fires | 18:59 |
| mjfork | heckj: +1 | 18:59 |
| mjfork | adopting cloud with out adopting processes for the cloud is not productive | 18:59 |
| sdake | www.pacemaker-cloud.org | 18:59 |
| mjfork | a true cloud app could care less if a VM disappeared | 18:59 |
| mjfork | "failure happens, plan for it" | 18:59 |
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| smoser | anyone have thoughts on this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/855030 | 19:00 |
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| __Ben | hi all | 19:03 |
| crussell | Pacemaker seems to start the ball rolling on the necessary intelligence to ensure avilability. | 19:03 |
| zykes- | what's pacemaker? | 19:04 |
| heckj | crussell: It'll definitely help. It's a bit of a PITA to configure and set up, but definitely does the trick. | 19:04 |
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| sdake | pacemaker-cloud is not difficult to set up | 19:04 |
| sdake | two different things | 19:04 |
| heckj | zykes-: http://www.linux-ha.org/wiki/Main_Page | 19:04 |
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| crussell | I suppose i should fall back and punt, and describe my intial intentions on looking into this private cloud setup.. more specifically the IaaS mantra. | 19:04 |
| sdake | zykes cloud version -> www.pacemaker-cloud.org | 19:05 |
| sdake | zykes bare metal version -> www.clusterlabs.org | 19:05 |
| crussell | Running windows servers on top of it... With services such as exchange, ocs, sharepoint, etc. And then down the road some linux voip solutions. | 19:06 |
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| crussell | But the more i read, this just can't help.... | 19:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #877661 in nova "test_stop_start_with_volume test occasionally fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877661 | 19:06 |
| mjfork | crussell: yeah, those look more like server vritualization workloads | 19:06 |
| crussell | I realizes it's intentions, and agree with it.. in that consuming the services provided here is how applications need to work later | 19:07 |
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| mjfork | don't get me wrong, they *could* run on openstack but if uptime and availability are #1 .... | 19:07 |
| crussell | Sadly it took me two weeks of making it work to realize this. =/ | 19:07 |
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| heckj | crussell: no knowledge learned is a bad thing | 19:08 |
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| crussell | What would be cool to come out of this.. A company has their own zone setup, and it constantly replicated to another partners zone... Company A's zone goes down, and is spun up at their partners. | 19:09 |
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| crussell | The partner zone, could be amazon for that matter. | 19:09 |
| crussell | But you're right the orchestration is missing | 19:10 |
| sdake | crussell escalation -> www.pacemaker-cloud.org | 19:10 |
| crussell | It handles the federation? | 19:10 |
| zykes- | sdake: so kind of a PaaS alike funcitoning thing? | 19:10 |
| zykes- | or a component of it | 19:10 |
| sdake | no, more focused on IAAS systems, HA is usually built into PAAS designs | 19:11 |
| sdake | read website, join mailing list, enjoy :) | 19:11 |
| zykes- | sdake: built into it how exactly ? restarting stuff etc ? | 19:11 |
| crussell | i'm going too | 19:11 |
| sdake | ya focus on restart | 19:12 |
| sdake | restart->isolate->recover->notify | 19:12 |
| sdake | thats the ha mantra | 19:12 |
| crussell | Providing data is consistent across sites.. a restart is fine. | 19:12 |
| zykes- | ah | 19:12 |
| zykes- | is there a plan to get that into openstack ? | 19:12 |
| sdake | rather detect failure->isolate->recover->notify | 19:12 |
| sdake | open source, not a miracle worker, time will tell :) | 19:13 |
| sdake | might find slide deck handy | 19:13 |
| zykes- | ;) | 19:14 |
| zykes- | slide deck ? | 19:15 |
| sdake | ya there are slides on the website | 19:15 |
| sdake | "Project Slides" | 19:15 |
| zykes- | ah | 19:16 |
| crussell | How do you mirror a cluster?? +) | 19:17 |
| crussell | that'd get it done.. =) | 19:17 |
| crussell | conceptually of course | 19:17 |
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| crussell | sdake, funny you're in http://www.redhat.com/summit/2011/presentations/summit/whats_new/thursday/dake_th_1130_high_availability_in_the_cloud.pdf | 19:24 |
| crussell | sdake @ beast | 19:24 |
| sdake | ya laptop name | 19:24 |
| crussell | Interesting read, ty | 19:26 |
| sdake | np | 19:26 |
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| jcannava | Anyone using Dashboard have vncproxy working? Dash keeps redirecting me to 127.0.0.1:6080.. | 20:27 |
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| rmk | jcannava: Set --vnc_proxyurl=http://host:port in your config | 20:33 |
| rmk | sorry vncproxy_url | 20:33 |
| jcannava | so I have that in nova.conf: | 20:33 |
| jcannava | # VNCPROXY | 20:33 |
| jcannava | --vnc_proxy_url=http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:6080 | 20:33 |
| jcannava | --vncproxy_wwwroot=/var/lib/nova/noVNC | 20:33 |
| rmk | vnxproxy_url | 20:33 |
| rmk | err vncproxy_url .. can't type | 20:34 |
| rmk | so your config parameter is incorrect | 20:34 |
| jcannava | still rolls to localhost | 20:34 |
| rmk | did you restart nova-api? | 20:36 |
| rmk | that's what's actually using that flag | 20:36 |
| jcannava | ah no, restarted nova-vncproxy. | 20:36 |
| jcannava | works now, thanks. | 20:36 |
| rmk | np | 20:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #837535 in quantum "plugins do not comply with quantum_plugin_interface" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837535 | 21:21 |
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| hajik | i need help with the dashboard on ubuntu 11.10 | 21:35 |
| hajik | plz | 21:35 |
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| devcamcar | hajik: what problems are you having? | 21:36 |
| hajik | well i installed it from the repos | 21:36 |
| hajik | i dont know how to run it | 21:36 |
| zykes- | has anyone here bothered trying to setup Quantum ? | 21:37 |
| hajik | i think the package also installs apache and mod_python | 21:38 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #834012 in quantum "API: GET networks/{net_id}/detail is inefficient" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834012 | 21:41 |
| robix1 | any example for adding nova-volume to the service list? | 21:42 |
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| backburner2 | anyone know how to snapshot an instance to a launchable emi file? | 21:51 |
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| Pr0toc0l | hello all....question, is there a way to use curl to make api calls to create volumes? | 22:03 |
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| heckj | Pr0toc0l: I'm pretty sure there is, although I don't know what's exposed in the Openstack 1.1 API - but it's all REST based, so it should be quite doable. | 22:09 |
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| Pr0toc0l | yeah i'm looking into that right now | 22:10 |
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| heckj | Pr0toc0l: I'm totally lying to you - I don't see any volume manipulation in the API right now: http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/1.1/content/ | 22:12 |
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| heckj | I know it works through the ec2 API, but I"m not seeing the analog | 22:14 |
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| Pr0toc0l | ahh..ok...i knew i was seeing that right...it's nice to have a second pair of eyes to validate | 22:16 |
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| Pr0toc0l | thank heckj | 22:16 |
| heckj | Pr0toc0l - there's an extension API that has the volume stuff in it (not sure where it's doc'd at) - but the API doesn't apparently work at the moment. At least that what I'm hearing from behind me | 22:17 |
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| Pr0toc0l | i see....i'll google | 22:18 |
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| hajik | nope, the package also installs apache and mod_wsgi | 22:24 |
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| vidd | Im trying to set up a new cloud and i'm having an issue getting glance and keystone to work together.... | 22:26 |
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| vidd | im trying to use the glance add command and im getting 401 Unauthorized | 22:27 |
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| vidd | I know i have to pass on my admin key with -A [key] ...do i have to pass on user as well? | 22:28 |
| jcannava | no -A [key] should be sufficient | 22:30 |
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| vidd | should i be doing $"sudo glance...." or #"glance...... | 22:31 |
| vidd | or should i be a standard user? | 22:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #877777 in openstack-dashboard "Novaclient authentication has possible failure case" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/877777 | 22:31 |
| rmk | Anyone know what dashboard's syntax for "any port" is in reference to security groups? | 22:31 |
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| rmk | vidd: User shouldn't matter, you're hitting the api anyway | 22:35 |
| rmk | vidd: And all you should need is -A | 22:35 |
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| vidd | there is a space between -A and the key | 22:36 |
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| rmk | thats fine | 22:36 |
| vidd | should -H be "localhost" "127.0.0.1" or the IP of the machine? | 22:37 |
| vidd | keystone and glance are both on the same server | 22:38 |
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| Toger | Hello, I am using devstack.org' script. Everything seems to be proceeding fine, but when I try to log in to the dashboard, I get 'Unexpected error' in the web console. If I intentionally use an incorrect password it gives me authentication denied, so I am confident in the password. The apache logs say 'nonspecific error while handling form', http://paste.openstack.org/show/2764/. Any suggestion on what is happening? | 22:42 |
| Toger | this was using the stock devstack.org script, so it pulled novaclient dashboard from 'master' and keystone from 'diablo' | 22:43 |
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| vidd | Toger, have you resatrted the machine since you first ran the script? | 22:45 |
| Toger | No; is that normally necessary? | 22:45 |
| vidd | no...if you do it messes things up | 22:46 |
| vidd | and you have to run the script again | 22:46 |
| vidd | have you made any modifications to the script? | 22:46 |
| Toger | No modifications. | 22:47 |
| Toger | stackrc unmodified too | 22:47 |
| vidd | VM or hardware run? | 22:47 |
| Toger | VMWare | 22:48 |
| Toger | ESXi, enterprise license | 22:48 |
| vidd | try restarting and re-running the script | 22:48 |
| Toger | ok, ill try that. | 22:49 |
| vidd | dash runs in a VM so is it possible issue with vm in vm ? | 22:49 |
| vidd | i made modifications to the script to get my instance to work...but i was working with physical hardware | 22:50 |
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| vidd | rmk, all i need for glance add commad is ... glance add name"[image-name]" is_public=[true/false] </path/to/image -H 127.0.0.1 -A [admin-key] | 22:58 |
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| vidd | or am i missing something? | 22:58 |
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| mjfork | looks out of order? | 23:00 |
| mjfork | your < /path/to/imge should be dead last | 23:00 |
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| vidd | well...that took longer to fail....so off to investigate the NEW issue =] | 23:03 |
| vidd | th ya mjfork for getting past the auth error | 23:03 |
| vidd | now im getting ECONNREFUSED .... | 23:05 |
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| hajik | where can i find a guide to configure the dashboard with apache2 | 23:09 |
| hajik | ??? | 23:09 |
| mjfork | vidd: whats in log? | 23:09 |
| Toger | Restarted, reran devstack.sh, am getting same error. | 23:10 |
| vidd | hajik, http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/openstack-beginners-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04-installation-and-configuration/ | 23:10 |
| vidd | mjfork, api or registry? | 23:10 |
| mjfork | both | 23:10 |
| mjfork | is there a stack trace | 23:10 |
| vidd | ! paste | 23:11 |
| openstack | vidd: Error: "paste" is not a valid command. | 23:11 |
| vidd | mjfork, where is stack trace? (or is that the CLI leading up to the error) | 23:12 |
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| mjfork | I would expect soemthing in the logs with the ECONNREFUSED message | 23:13 |
| mjfork | are you sure rthat glance is running on local machine? | 23:13 |
| vidd | yes...its running | 23:13 |
| mjfork | netstat -tnap | grep 9292 | 23:14 |
| mjfork | what address is it listening on? | 23:14 |
| vidd | 0.0.0.0:9292 | 23:15 |
| mjfork | hmm | 23:15 |
| vidd | listen 22792/python | 23:15 |
| vidd | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:9292 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 22792/python | 23:15 |
| mjfork | glance -H 127.0.0.1 -p 9292 index | 23:17 |
| mjfork | what does that do | 23:17 |
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| vidd | Not authorized to make this request. Check your credentials (OS_AUTH_USER, OS_AUTH_KEY, ...). | 23:19 |
| rmk | that's not going to work with keystone, need -A | 23:19 |
| rmk | vidd: ANd yeah your command earlier looks fine | 23:20 |
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| vidd | rmk, i needed the host and auth key before the < /path to file | 23:21 |
| vidd | results of index request: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2765/ | 23:22 |
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| vidd | i can telnet to 127.0.0.1 9292 | 23:25 |
| vidd | so the port is open and listening | 23:26 |
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| jhmartin | Can anyone point me to documentation about configuring vmware with openstack? I see that it is listed as supported but I don't see anywhere to put in the API destinations. | 23:45 |
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| vidd | jhmartin, have you looked at http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/hypervisor-configuration-basics.html ? | 23:46 |
| jhmartin | I see that, it actually doesn't mention vmware as a valid libvirt_type | 23:48 |
| jhmartin | and I think it would need some info about the vmware admin location / credentials. | 23:49 |
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| jhmartin | I see virt/vmwareapi in the source tree, | 23:52 |
| vidd | jhmartin, http://wiki.openstack.org/HypervisorSupportMatrix says ESX compatibility-Needs testing | 23:53 |
| jhmartin | I'm running ESXi | 23:53 |
| jhmartin | I think I found it, ./doc/source/vmwareapi_readme.rst talks about the config settings needed. | 23:54 |
| vidd | jhmartin, sorry...i wasnt much help | 23:55 |
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| jhmartin | Just surprised I couldn't find anything on the web about the config considering the big Citrix announcement about vmware+openstack. | 23:56 |
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