Tuesday, 2011-10-18

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vishybeekhof: basically yes00:00
beekhofthanks. i appreciate your time00:01
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B-wonghere is the error00:03
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vishyB-wong: probaby you need to do a nova-manage role add <user> netadmin00:04
vishyfollowed by a nova-manage role add <user> netadmin <project>00:04
beekhofvishy: why get rid of hosts table?  would be a natural place to store host capacity information00:04
vishyservices does the same thing00:05
vishygenerally there is 1 service per host00:05
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beekhofah ok00:05
beekhofso instead of global max_cores/max_gigabytes/etc would it be feasible to add those as per-service settings?00:06
crussell_B-wong - do an env - you se things like your ec2 access key?00:09
B-wongvishy: I tried whta you suggested. It is still not working00:10
B-wongcrussell_: http://pastebin.com/KsEZSwma00:10
vishycan you do any other euca commands?00:11
crussell_Tried creating a new user, new project, grabbing new creds?  I've had simliar problems during my initial install00:11
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vishyis your user a member of the undtertone project?00:11
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B-wongshould be00:13
B-wongi used nova-manage project add00:13
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B-wongso the user is Admin00:15
B-wongdo I have to be logged in as Admin?00:15
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B-wongbecause im logged in as root right now00:15
vishytry nova-manage role has <user> netadmin <project>00:15
B-wongit says00:16
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vishyso that isn't the issue then00:18
vishywhich version of nova are you running?00:19
vishyare you sure you are using the right access key for that user?00:19
vishy* right access and secret keys00:19
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B-wonghow do you check the version00:24
B-wonghow do you know the key is right for the user?00:25
B-wongI look at env i see a key00:25
B-wongand i see the user00:25
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B-wongIll paste the commands i typed to make creds00:28
B-wonghold on00:28
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vishythat looks fine00:39
vishyyou will want to add sysadmin as well00:39
vishynot sure why you would be getting 401 there00:40
vishyyou might want to check nova-api.log to see if it has any useful messages00:40
vishywait a sec00:43
vishyi see it00:43
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uvirtbotNew bug: #877001 in openstack-dashboard "Can't disable a tenant through the syspanel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87700100:51
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maggim getting this error after running euca-run-instances01:05
maggnbd15 receive control failed result -3201:05
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maggthe instance also says pending01:11
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crussell_yay, i fixed my compute node - no more restarts01:19
vishydo you have the nbd kernel module installed?01:19
crussell_question -  if i disable my node2 nova-compute, and then restart my compute serve on node 2 will it reenable it?01:20
maggheads up01:21
maggkeystone doesnt work on ubuntu 11.1001:21
maggi get this01:21
maggsudo keystone-manage tenant add "MyTenant"01:21
maggERROR: (OperationalError) unable to open database file None None01:21
crussell_I found keystone wasn'st runing when i tried.01:22
crussell_ps -aux | keystone01:22
crussell_err ps-aux| grep keystone01:22
maggvishy: how do i install nbd kernel module?01:23
vishymodprobe nbd01:23
maggps aux | grep keystone01:24
maggkeystone   748  0.0  0.0   2832   884 ?        Ss   17:36   0:00 su -c keystone --log-dir=/var/log/keystone --log-file=api.log keystone01:24
maggkeystone   752  0.0  1.3  25940 13440 ?        S    17:36   0:00 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/keystone --log-dir=/var/log/keystone --log-file=api.log01:24
maggmagg      6693  0.0  0.0   4188   796 pts/1    S+   20:23   0:00 grep --color=auto keystone01:24
maggvishy: done how do i check if its on01:24
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livemoonhi, can anyone help me?01:28
livemoonopenstack@keystone-test:~$ curl -H "X-Auth-Token:999888777666" http://localhost:35357/users{"IdentityFault": {"message": "Unhandled error", "code": "500", "details": "'NoneType' object has no attribute01:28
maggcrussell_: that says keystone is running right01:28
livemoonwhen I use "curl -H "X-Auth-Token:999888777666"  http://localhost:35357/users01:28
crussell_Ok, i think i just found a bug01:28
livemoonI got 500 code01:28
crussell_How do i report it?  Just to have a spot.. and possibly try to recreate in a few days.01:29
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livemoonhi, hugokuo. If you are free ,I want to ask some question in gtalk.01:34
hugokuolivemoon , k01:34
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magghey one question01:45
maggin keystone-manage token add 999888777666 admin admin 2015-02-05T00:0001:45
maggwhat is admin01:45
maggI created an admin called MyAdmin01:45
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mjforkit is user project02:15
mjforkif your admin is MyAdmin02:15
mjforkand the project is admin02:15
mjforkkeystone-manage token add 999888777666 MyAdmin admin 2015-02-05T00:0002:16
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livemoonhi, "ERROR    'NoneType' object has no attribute 'enabled'"02:29
livemoonhow this happens when using keystone02:30
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livemoonanybody here?02:39
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mjforkyes, i went through that02:45
mjforkwhat are you trying to do02:45
livemoonhi, myfork02:45
livemoonhi, mjfork02:45
mjforkwhat command are you running?02:47
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livemoonI just running curl -H "X-Auth-Token:999888777666" http://localhost:35357/v2.0/tenants02:48
livemoonor glance -A 999888777666 index02:48
livemoonthe errors are same02:48
mjforkmy guess is you are missing a role assignment or similar02:49
mjforkdid you create that token for the admin user in the admin project?02:50
mjforkkeystone-manage token add admin admin02:50
mjforkthat syntax/02:50
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backburner2why do snapshot always just stayed queued in the dashboard?02:53
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livemoonmjfork: not role problem03:03
livemoonI have create all the needed role, users and tenant03:04
mjforkthen missing permissions03:04
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mjforki believe i fixed htis by logging into sqllite db03:04
backburner2is anyone able to create a snapshot in dashboard?03:05
mjforkdoes your admin user have the Admin role?03:05
mjforkbackburner2 can't help you, never seen a snapshot featuer03:05
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livemoonid    | password | email | enabled | tenant_id |03:06
livemoon| admin | p4ssw0rd | NULL  |       1 | 103:06
backburner2under user dashboard you don't have a snapshot sub menu?03:06
mjforkbackburner no, not on diablo release i have03:07
mjforklivemoon: that doesn't show Admin role03:07
mjforkwhere did you get that snapshot?03:07
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mjforkdoesn't look like the keystone DB03:08
backburner2i used devstack to install openstack and there it is03:08
mjforkbackburner2 must be a new feature, not sure.03:08
backburner2not sure how to get my version for dashboard03:08
backburner2no wonder no one will anser me for days about it haha03:09
backburner2anyone know from the command line how to snapshot an instance to a launchable image?03:09
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livemoonmjfork:id                   | desc | service_id |03:23
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livemoon| Admin                | NULL | NULL       |03:23
livemoonthis from roles table;03:24
mjforkSELECT * FROM user_roles;03:24
livemoonadmin   | Admin                | admin03:25
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mjforki think that 3rd admin may be your problem?03:25
mjforkmy tenant_id is null for my admin03:26
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mjforkmy tenant_id is also null in my users table03:32
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hugokuoI think it's ok ...03:34
hugokuobcz the relationship of user and tenant and role has been wrote in user_roles03:35
mjforkbut i believe teh service tries to load it without a role03:35
mjforkit doesn't find it03:35
mjforkand that is what leads to the NoneType error03:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #877046 in nova "Misleading error message --bridge interface is required" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87704603:35
hugokuowhere did u get the error?03:36
hugokuofrom SIWFT client ?03:36
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backburner2is crowbar worth a look?03:53
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backburner2anyone using it?03:53
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mjforkdemo was impressive at the conference04:00
mjforkdepending on your use case, could look at orchestra/juju from Canonical04:01
livemoonI have done it04:02
livemoonthanks mjfork04:02
mjforklivemoon: yeah? that fixed it?04:03
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backburner2yea juju looks awesome04:06
backburner2needs docs though04:06
livemoonmjfork: No module named ec2_token04:08
livemoondo you meet this error?04:08
mjforkwhats the stack trace from the logs?04:10
mattraybackburner2: Crowbar is under active development, mailing list is here: https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/crowbar They're working on Diablo support right now: https://github.com/dellcloudedge04:10
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livemoonmjfork: 2011-10-18 12:04:44,565 CRITICAL nova [-] No module named ec2_token04:11
livemoonwhen I use nova wiht keystone and start nova-api04:12
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mjforkso nova and keystone are on same box?04:16
mjforklivemoon: is this diablo? trunk?04:17
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jasonaanyone currently running openstack swift on top of gpfs as a storage layer ?04:20
mjforkjasona: i don't know of anyone, but i am interested04:20
mjforklivemoon: i think the problem is in your /etc/nova/api-paste.ini04:20
jasonaif people aren't running it on top of such a layer, how are they implementing it currently ?04:21
mjforkjasona: should say, i am interested in what you find out.04:21
jasonadirectly onto jbods ?04:21
mjforkJBODS is what it is designed for04:21
jasonai am talking to a bunch of the usual vendors who are all coming back asking 'so can you put openstack on top of our fs layer instead of jbods'04:21
mjforkwhat vendors?04:22
jasonae.g emc with isolon, netapp with infortrend.. hp with ibrix and so on04:22
jasonaisilon even04:22
mjforkSystem Requirements04:22
mjforkHardware: OpenStack Object Storage specifically is designed to run on commodity hardware. At Rackspace, our storage servers are currently running fairly generic 4U servers with 24 2T SATA drives and 8 cores of processing power. RAID on the storage drives is not required and not recommended. Swift's disk usage pattern is the worst case possible for RAID, and performance degrades very quickly...04:22
jasonai.e they are saying, if you have a fs layer can you put openstack onto that instead.04:22
mjfork...using RAID 5 or 6.04:22
jasonasure, i've read that and i understand.. the 'problem' as it were is.. if you have a torage platform already.. does this really mean you have to do more than one04:23
jasonaor can you adapt the existing one into doing OS side by side with existing storage filesystems.04:23
jasonait's fine if the answer is 'no' but just trying to make sure it really is no :)04:23
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mjforkI am not the right one to answer that :-)04:24
jasonaso do you have an os install right now then ?04:24
mjforkyes, but not in production04:24
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mjforkmore of a toy04:25
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jasonado you have any plans to move it from being a toy ?04:25
mjforkno, not presently04:25
mjforksince you mentioned GPFS, are you an IBM shop?04:25
jasonado you know anyone here who is using it for more than a toy ? i talked to john about bits of this before his oscon presentation04:25
jasonabut i've been swamped in between04:25
jasonanot an ibm shop per se, but there is some kit on the ground that is ibm04:26
hajikHello where can I find a guide for the openstack dashboard in ubuntu 11.10.... I installed it but i dont know where are the files I need to configure04:26
jasonabut certainly talking to a bunch of different vendors04:26
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jasonasorry hajik, don't know.04:34
hajikthanks anyway04:35
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livemoonwho know "2011-10-18 12:04:44,565 CRITICAL nova [-] No module named ec2_token05:09
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uvirtbotNew bug: #877091 in openstack-qa "/nova/notifier/api.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87709105:43
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uvirtbotNew bug: #877115 in openstack-qa "/nova/notifier/no_op_notifier.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87711506:22
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uvirtbotNew bug: #860160 in quantum "Add code coverage support to quantum" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/86016006:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #877120 in quantum "prune files with poor code coverage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87712006:31
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livemoonI have installed keystone, how to test it works well with nova?06:46
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FamilyguyAnyone here using Scientific Linux 6.X with openstack?  I'm assuming so since CERN is involved in both projects.  :)06:59
pradeepFamilyguy: i am trying now.07:00
FamilyguyAre you using the RHEL6 install instructions?07:00
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FamilyguyExcellent.  Dipping my toe in the water.  Have a few racks of HP DL380's to test with for a few months.  It was between this and Eucalyptus.  Documentation here is a lot more spartan, but the project goals are more compatible with what I'm donig.07:06
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kaigan_Familyguy: e "few" racks, nice! :)07:11
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FamilyguyKaigan: an embarrassment of riches to be sure.  They're not earmarked for "real work" until mid-Q1 2012 so I figured that would be a perfect opportunity to jump in the deep end of the pool and see what this openstack thing is about.  :)07:16
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FamilyguyThe sparse documentation is a bit daunting, but I'm pressing on.07:17
kaigan_community is great however Familyguy, you'll get good answers in here and on the groups07:19
FamilyguyThat's what I'm hoping for.  Looking forward to it.07:21
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bobry_Hello, I've installed openstack using 'devstack' script, but all instances I launch from 'openstack-dashboard' are stuck with 'Build' status. And what's even more suprising, none of them show up in 'nova-manage vm list' output. Any hints?07:25
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Raziquemorning :)08:22
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crayon_zI have a question about swift 1.4.3 version08:28
livemoonhi, Razique08:28
livemoonI am waiting for you all the day08:29
Raziqueoi livemoon :)08:29
Raziquewhat's up ?08:29
livemoonhave you installed dashboard?08:29
Raziquenope :)08:30
Raziquestill fighting with the python novaclient08:30
Raziqueit's going better08:31
Raziquenow Keystone works as an entrypoint for the auth.08:31
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Raziquekeystone forwards the calls to the right service, eg Nova08:31
Raziquebut nova, I've tokens errors :D08:31
Raziqueyou ?08:31
livemoonhow do you test nova with keystone08:32
RaziqueI use that = https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient08:32
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livemoonI will try08:34
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livemoonRazique: how to use?08:35
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livemoonI export NOVA_URL=
livemoonthen use nova?08:36
Raziqueput in ur bashrc files the following globals : NOVA_URLhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2747/08:37
koolhead17hi all08:37
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livemoonhi, koolhead1708:38
koolhead17hello livemoon . how are you ?08:38
livemoonnot good,hah08:38
livemoonNOVA_REGION_NAME="REGION" what REGION means?08:38
livemoonRazique: can you give me an example?08:39
Raziquelivemoon: the region describe the "location" of the endpoint08:40
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Raziquekeystone has a table "endpoint_templates" which makes the relation between the service (swift, nova, glance) and it's url08:41
Raziqueyou can regroup those services under a logical "region"08:41
Raziquehere is what i figured so far SERVICE:REGION08:41
Raziqueoups, service;type08:42
Raziquenova:compute; glance:image, swift;storage08:42
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zykes-does gance have a bug in it's diablo release towards keystone or am I doing something wrong? keystone requires "auth" to be present in the body of the request and glance doesn't send it ?08:43
zykes-https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/stable/diablo/keystone/logic/types/auth.py < i'm looking at this and comparing it with https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/stable/diablo/glance/common/auth.py08:43
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livemoonRazique: you install novaclinet via git?08:48
livemoonI install it via apt, and found not support --region08:48
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Raziquelivemoon: yup, take the last version from github :)09:09
Raziqueplus few hours ago, a fix has been commited that fixes the region's handling09:10
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zykes-Razique: for what? keystone ?09:11
Raziquezykes-: yup09:11
zykes-so you're not on diablo release ? ;p09:11
RaziqueI am09:11
Raziquediablo + keystone09:11
zykes-diablo version of keystone as well or ?09:11
zykes-and glancE ?09:11
Raziquebut I was unable to retrieve a correct endpoint from keystone09:11
Raziquelast version from github, the one into the ppa is too old09:12
Raziquekeystone and nova atm, but they both work on the same way I guess :)09:12
Raziquezykes-: you've been able to use keystone with a service ?09:12
RaziqueI've 2011-10-18 11:11:03,369 WARNING nova.api.openstack [-] None could not be found with token '53852788695577377'09:12
Raziqueit's like keystone is not properly forwarding the token to nova09:12
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zykes-Razique: i'm trying to get it to work with swift + glance09:13
zykes-i got it to work but then i started using glance and it borked09:13
Raziqueok ok09:13
zykes-seems nothing is working :(09:13
Raziquewhat ur swift endpoint looks like into the database ?09:14
RaziqueI've this for nova :
RaziqueI think the "%tenant_id% " is not the right variable; but I'm not sure09:14
zykes-|  3 | RegionOne |          1 | https://swift.stack.lan:8080/v1/AUTH_%tenant_id% | swift.admin.stack.lan                    | |       1 |         0 |09:14
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Raziquewhat is your tenant id ?09:16
Raziqueis it an id or a "name" ?09:16
zykes-not sure09:17
livemoonRazique: how do you installed keystone? apt or github?09:17
Raziquelivemoon: github09:17
zykes-i just use all components from "diablo" but nothing seems to be working as expected..09:17
Raziquethe PPA version is too old ;)09:17
zykes-which is kind of fuzzy09:17
livemoonok , I will reinstall it09:17
Raziquezykes-: I know what u mean, I spend the whol day yesterday, I only understant a bit better today ^^09:17
zykes-like if you install the keystone diablo version and glance it's not working09:18
zykes-so i dunno how they mean by it being production ready :p09:18
Raziquezykes-: I was exactly saying the same thing09:18
RaziqueKeystone will become the main auth service quickly (eg entry point for everything against openstack service)09:19
Raziquebut at the same time, there is not any clear doc09:19
Raziquewhich is kind of scary :D09:20
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superbobrycan anyone please explain how keystone is related to nova credentials (which are mentioned in *all* official guides)?09:21
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Raziquesuperbobry: I'm not sure right now, but nova-api connects to keystone, since you interface them09:23
Raziqueand when you request for a nova stuff, via keystone, it transmits the request, via these famous "endpoints"09:24
Raziquean endpoint for keystone is the location of a given service09:24
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superbobryhm, the same should apply to all openstack components, right?09:25
superbobryglance for instance09:25
Raziquetotally, glance is also an endpoint for Keystone09:25
Raziqueendpoint : region, name, service, and url09:25
Raziquename : glance, service : image, url : http://IP:9292/$api_version/09:26
Raziquethat's how Keystone is considered as an auth service09:26
superbobryokay, so how am i supposed to call `glance index` now? the docs describe old 'novarc' method09:27
Raziquebut I also could be totally wrong since the beginning :p09:27
Raziquethe glance binary doesn't use the api, so no need to use keystone for that09:27
zykes-have you tested glance with keystone rav?09:27
Raziqueit's the same as the "nova-mange" command, which dosn't work with nova-api09:27
Raziquezykes-: I'm finishing to interface it with nova09:28
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Raziquebasically, you need two things09:28
livemoonIt seems my keystone does not work well with nova and glance09:28
livemoonServiceCatalogException: Invalid service catalog service: image09:28
Razique1 - add an extra line into the conf : --api_paste_config=/etc/nova/api-paste.ini09:28
Razique2 - into the file, add keystone auth servicehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2748/09:29
Raziquethat is how nova is able to communicate with keystone09:29
Raziqueadd the 1- into nova.conf09:29
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Raziqueand the 2- into api-paste.ini, at the end of the file, and restart nova-api09:30
RaziqueI'm quite sure the connection works that way, cuz; when I run a nova list, I see hits into nova-api.log09:30
Raziquewhile nova list calls keystone :)09:30
Raziquenova list ---> keystone ----> compute-endpoint ----> nova09:31
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sannesWhen I try to boot a vm the status is BUILD afterwards and never progresses from there, and I don't seems to find any errors in the logs, also I don't see any images in /var/lib/nova/instances/ (if it matters) any idea where I should start looking?09:31
superbobrysannes: same issue here — exactly09:31
Raziquesannes, look at the nova-compute.logs, it's like the compute node is unable to retrieve the image09:32
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Raziqueinto the log, u'll be able to see the image's URL09:32
Raziqueget it, and try to run the get manually09:32
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sannesRazique: Ah, you are right, think my tail -f * had me confused, there is a crash and a repeated warning (nova.rpc): TRACE: Error: Error from libvirt while looking up instance-00000006: [Error Code 38] Cannot write data: Broken pipe .. atleast I can debug it now :) thanks09:35
livemoonInvalid service catalog service: compute (HTTP 404)09:36
Raziquehehe :)09:36
livemoonRazique: I am no errlog in nova-api.log09:36
Raziquecheck the connectivity between the imaging service and the elected compute node09:36
livemoonbut I cannot use keystone with nova09:36
Raziquelivemoon: what command did u run ?09:36
livemoonin dashboard09:37
zykes-Razique: what do you get if you do a curl towards keystone ?09:37
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Raziquezykes-: yes, you could try09:38
Raziquehere it works09:38
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zykes-can you install yajl and give me a paste of your curl | json_reformat ?09:38
Razique{"auth": {"passwordCredentials": {"username": "$user", "password": "$password"}}}09:38
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Raziquelivemoon: zykes- here is the database scheme09:40
Raziquethis one seems to work09:40
livemoonI use "nova list" and get "Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials"09:41
Raziquelivemoon check the user and the api key09:41
livemoonRazique: use curl?09:42
Raziquelivemoon: run nova --debug list09:43
Raziqueyou 'll be able to catch the param you send. I use that tool in order to debug all that stuff http://code.google.com/p/rest-client/09:43
zykes-why does it return endpoints andthen in there several more endpoint keys ? :|09:43
Raziqueu should use it guys :D09:43
Raziquezykes-: keystone ?09:44
zykes-yes Razique09:44
Raziquewith which tool ? novaclient ?09:44
zykes-using curl09:44
zykes-if you look at say the glance code for auth09:44
superbobryhm, weird — I get broken pipe error in glance-api, probably that's why the vm is stuck in 'Build'09:45
zykes-glance_info = resp_auth['serviceCatalog']['glance'] it looks for the "glance" key from the loaded json data and since it only has alot of "endpoints" it breaks...09:45
livemoonRazique: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2750/09:45
zykes-so no wonder it's not working09:45
zykes-ttx: are you nearby?09:45
Raziquelivemoon: you are not using keystone here, is it what u want ?09:46
livemoonRazique: it's my novarc file:http://paste.openstack.org/show/2751/09:46
Raziquezykes-: coud you paste the keystone result09:46
Raziquethe one you get by hitting the root address09:47
livemoonRazique: I want to know how to use keystone and how to use eucatools both.09:47
zykes-is the result of a auth09:47
Raziquelivemoon: euca2ools don't work with keystone I think09:47
ttxzykes-: yes09:47
zykes-ttx: is there any known bugs for glance / swift with keystone for diablo ?09:48
livemoonRazique: if I want to use keystone to auth, what need I export?09:48
ttxzykes-: I heard of some, yes09:48
Raziquelivemoon: the url needs to ben the keystone one09:48
Raziquethe port also09:48
Raziquewhich is by default the port 5000, 8774 is used by nova-api09:49
zykes-ttx: any plans to fix it ? ;p09:50
livemoonnova list --url=xxxx ?09:50
ttxzykes-: I guess it depends where you get your "diablo" from. Keystone was not in diablo... Some distros shipped keystone and updated diablo packages though09:51
zykes-ttx: right now i'm testing with glance + keystone "diablo" branches from github09:51
zykes-as i mentioned the glance stuff looks for endpoints["glance"] which clearly won't work since keystone returns a diff scheme09:52
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ttxzykes-: right, that's why you'd need a post-diablo glance09:52
zykes-ttx: how much "post"?09:52
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zykes-cause funky thing is looking at trunk as well it's the same glance_info = resp_auth['serviceCatalog']['glance']09:53
ttxzykes-: I don't know. As far as core project release management is concerned (my world), I hope to have a working one at essex-1, and I try to guarantee we have a working combination by Essex release09:54
ttxDownstream distributions might have different concerns and ship updates09:54
Raziquezykes-: Ok, it's moving :)09:54
zykes-Razique: what's moving ?09:55
Raziqueit's like nova is able to send the x-auth-token09:55
Raziqueafter I submit the x-auth-user and key09:55
ttxzykes-: basically, Keystone was not a core project for Diablo, which is part of the reason it's not working straght from diablo branches09:55
Raziquethen iit's unable to work with the token he just sent me09:55
Razique    "message" : "This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser does not understand how to supply the credentials required.",09:55
ttxDoesn't mean you can't get it to work with some amount of updates and fixes... but that's what downstream distributions of openstack can opt to do09:55
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zykes-ttx: why wasn't there something called "diablo+" or whatever one mentioned to do then ?09:56
Raziquewhile before the whole migration nova was able to use my x-auth-token09:56
zykes-so people can have a better life in making it work with diablo09:56
ttxzykes-: I think that's Rackspace Cloud Builders downstream branches that plan to do a diablo+09:57
ttxthough you could also consider Ubuntu 11.10 packages to be a diablo+09:58
ttxBasically all downstream distributions ship some kind of diablo+09:58
ttxThey all apply fixes09:58
zykes-only thing i know is that i try to get it to work and until now i've been unable to09:58
ttxIf you question is "which ones actually ship code that works with Keystone" I don't have the answer09:59
Raziquezykes-: ok I made it work!!!10:02
zykes-for nova raz?10:02
Raziquein fact , the nova uses the x-auth-token, defined into the keystone datase10:02
Raziquefor glance also10:03
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zykes-Razique: what versions do you use ?10:03
RaziqueGlance and Nova diablo from PPA, keystone from github10:04
livemoonRazique: nova --debug --url= --username=admin --apikey=p4ssw0rd list10:04
livemoonthis command ok?10:04
Raziquebut, there is that thing…. nova expects the x-auth-token, which is a temporary one (24 hours)10:04
zykes-Razique: newest keystone or ?10:05
Raziquethe novaclient sends that key, I had to hard-put it into the database, under the tokens table10:05
Raziquezykes-: yes, latest version10:05
Raziqueit's like keystone is unable to retrieve itself the x-auth-token10:05
Raziquethe "doc" says "Now you add a default token for the admin user to get when requesting a token."10:06
Raziquelivemoon: yup10:06
zykes-ttx: how is one supposed to know which stuff works with which when some docs say something and something else something else ?10:07
ttxzykes-: Core projects for Diablo were Swift, Glance and Nova. That's what supposed to work if you take the core Diablo branches.10:08
livemoonRazique: but errlog:http://paste.openstack.org/show/2753/10:08
zykes-wasn't packaging of the ubuntu ppa closed or something ?10:09
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Raziquelivemoon: it looks like the user doens't exist10:10
ttxzykes-: Some downstream distributions will release Diablo+ packages that work with other things, that's their added value10:10
Raziquelivemoon: show me the keystone "root"10:10
ttxzykes-: and their documentation might just say "diablo"10:10
ttxThe fact that RCB is one of those downstreams and that they manage the doc might add to the confusion10:11
zykes-Razique: if you do a "glance index"10:12
zykes-does that work for you with keystone enabled ?10:12
Raziquezykes-: I don't think Glance uses the API in fact10:12
Raziquelet me try10:12
zykes-yeah, but do you have keystone enabled for your glance install ?10:13
Raziquezykes-: yes10:13
RaziqueI added the stuff for keystone : http://paste.openstack.org/show/2755/10:14
Raziquezykes-: I know how to test it I'll make REST hits to keystone in order to call glance10:15
Raziquedon't know how yet but.. :D10:15
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sannesIs there any particular version of libvirt nova (git master) should be running with?10:16
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livemoonRazique: keystone "root"?10:16
Raziquezykes-: but in fact, Keystone simply forwards the endpoints10:17
Raziquethat means, the keystone filter are used in that purpose10:17
Raziqueyou ask keystone "give me the endpoint for the "image" service"10:18
Raziquethen via the json/ xml response, you retrieve the "public_url" of a endpoint10:18
Raziquethat what the novaclient does in fact10:18
Raziquelivemoon: yah, run a hit to http://$keystone:5000/v2.010:18
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zykes-uhm, Razique glance index looks for servicecatalog > glance10:19
zykes-when it get's it from the auth10:19
zykes-that is where it fails10:19
Raziquezykes-: are you sure glance looks for that into keystone ?10:19
RaziqueI looked that the logs10:20
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Raziqueglance runs itself the Myslq queries, so neither keystone, nore glance-api calls :)10:21
zykes-glance client i think wants a response10:21
zykes-Razique: you have OS_AUTH_STRATEGY etc set ?10:22
zykes-as env variables10:22
zykes-uhm, then you're not using keystone and glance ?10:22
zykes-together for auth10:22
RaziqueI've read that I only add the stuff into the glance-registry.conf file10:23
livemoonRazique: it's : http://paste.openstack.org/show/2757/10:23
superbobryINFO nova.compute.manager [-] Found 2 in the database and 0 on the hypervisor. — can any run those two folks manualy somehow?10:23
Raziquezykes-: have u doc for the connection glance <-> keystone ?10:23
zykes-Razique: https://github.com/openstack/glance/blob/6ca5c56079a173c00ae2876c1fd05d82dfe1a9e9/doc/source/authentication.rst10:24
Raziquemaybe I did it wrong10:24
zykes-is the newest for thunk10:24
zykes-i'm giving up soon..10:26
Raziquethanks for the link10:28
Raziquemaybe I'm not using Keystone well10:28
Raziquefor instance, into my nova.conf the admin_token doesn't correspond to the one into keystone database10:28
Raziqueand the novaclient is working10:29
Raziqueso… don't know really how these auth work anymore man10:29
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zykes-i just know i've spent too much time tinkering with it already...10:31
zykes-i thought it would be a ok thing todo but so much for that10:31
Raziquezykes-: yah so do I, I was seriously thinking that I made it work until u sent me ur link10:32
Raziquewe need the big picture here obviously10:32
zykes-has anyone had success with it lately ?10:32
Raziquewell not here10:33
Raziqueand I've spent hours on the web looking for usefull doc, but doesn't exist10:33
Raziquethat would be nice to have a keystone project's manager who would write some doc on how to use it10:33
sannesAnyone had libvirt crashing while reading some xml net filter rules?10:34
superbobrythat would be nice uhuh10:34
Raziquesannes: nope sorry10:35
TooExcitedHello, gentlemen! Do you know if it's possible to assign floating IPs through the OpenStack API?10:37
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TooExcitedThe equivalent of euca-allocate-address, euca-associate-address10:37
sannesEverytime I try to boot a server it segmentation faults libvirt without anything in the libvirt log ..10:38
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Raziquezykes-: ok, we are on the right track obviously http://mirantis.blogspot.com/2011/09/what-is-this-keystone-anyway.html10:39
superbobryi wonder if all euca* commands are deprecated, with all that keystone migration going10:40
superbobrynone of them seem to work anymore10:41
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zykes-Razique: question is is there a way to get glance going10:45
zykes-and the whole "stack" with keystone in diablo10:45
superbobrysannes: have you figured out the 'Build' issue?10:50
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sannessuperbobry: Each time I fix something, something new pops up, so it still has problems, right now I'm trying to figure out why libvirt is crashing11:04
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sannessuperbobry: seems the status is ERROR right now11:05
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superbobryhm, i get a feeling that my vms don't even get to the libvirt stage11:10
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sannessuperbobry: What do they stop on?11:20
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superbobrysannes: i'm trying to debug it right now, with little success though11:23
superbobrycompute worker keeps telling me "Found 2 in the database and 0 on the hypervisor."11:24
superbobrylike it never received run_instance request from the api11:24
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sanneshm, my nova-compute says the same thing on startup, I actually just get the libvirt stuff when I create them ..11:27
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livemoonare you here?11:40
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superbobryhello :)12:02
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livemoonI still have some error on keystone with nova and glance12:08
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livemoonIf using dashboard, does it need to install python-novaclient?12:14
Raziqueyah I'm back12:14
Raziquewas home looking at the third ep of Dexter :D12:14
Raziquelivemoon: well both are complementary I'd say12:14
RaziqueI don't know if the dashboard fully implements the API compared to the cli12:15
livemoonoh,I remember,it will install novaclient itself when installing via git.12:16
Raziqueah ok12:16
Raziquegood then :)12:16
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livemoonnow I still cannot use glance and novaclient via keystone12:17
livemoonI am on the underground. when I get home, I will ask for you Razique.12:18
livemoonhi, jasona12:18
jasonag'day livemoon12:18
Raziqueok ok12:18
Raziquehey jasona12:19
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jasonaso i was having a brief discussion with someone earlier.. anyone willing to continue it.. on broad architectural concepts of OS (rather than specific technical issues..)12:19
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livemoonRazique: have you seen the keystone "root" I paste earlier?12:20
jasonajust came out of a meeting a few hours ago in which i was told how large an openstack node had to be built and well.. kinda scared about how well it would go in 'production' use :)12:20
Raziquelivemoon: not sure ^^12:21
livemoonjasona: which storage tech can be used in 'production'?12:23
jasonawell, one of the storage platforms proposed is gpfs for some research systems.12:23
jasonai don't know that openstack lends itself to be sitting on top of gpfs.. so..12:24
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jasona(i get different feedback on this)12:24
jasonaibm's clustered filesystem.12:25
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backburner2I am more interested in lustre.12:27
jasonanope live. commercial. but with deals for research places.12:27
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jasonaback: i'm interested too and i know people who are using lustre in production use but.. well, some of the community has real issues with it.12:28
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livemoonclustered or distributed?12:28
jasonathe storage layers i have looked at are gpfs, lustre and ceph. with side bits of zfsonlinux12:28
jasonahow do you differentiate live ? i would say gpfs is a clustered fs and perhaps lustre/cept are distributed ? would you agree with that ?12:29
mjforkthose storage layers all have very different purposes than OS correct?12:29
jasonahey mjf.12:29
mjforkOS is not an alternative to GPFS, Lustre, or Ceph12:30
jasonaok. is it an alternative to hadoop ?12:30
backburner2technical problems with lustre or moral problems because of oracle?12:30
jasonaback: technical problems rather than moral12:30
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mjforkjasona: yes, those are an alternative to HDFS12:31
jasonaone research group here is unhappy that their lustre fs for the group currently goes read only frequently.12:31
jasonaand thus they have turned to gpfs12:31
jasonabut i digress a bit.12:31
jasonaso.. one storage requirement is.. large filesystems for researchers who want hundreds of terabytes (petabytes) attached to a machine to just work on.12:32
jasonathe other is.. large numbers of VMs that need attached storage12:32
jasonawell, maybe not that large. the conversation today was around the 4k cores of VMs.12:33
backburner2gluster has an new openstack connector , but rumor is redhat is going to kill it12:33
mjforkfor the first - do they want a filesystem or an object store?12:33
mjforkand the second, OS is not an option12:33
jasonamjf: well a filesystem or a filesystem inside an object store ?12:33
mjforki don't believe that is a supported use case for OS12:34
mjforkits an http-based put/get store...not sure how you have an FS inside it12:34
jasonawell, what exactly does swift give you then ? :) the demo shows creating a volume and attaching it.. as an ext3 fs. what am i missing there ?12:35
mjforkthat wasn't switft then12:35
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mjforkit was nova-volume, which uses iSCSI12:35
jasonaoic. ok.12:35
mjforkthere are other nova-volume connecters that talk to netapp (announced at the conference 2 weeks ago) and for gluster I believe12:36
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mjforkthe default implemenation shipped with Nova uses iScsi and LVM12:36
mjforkdo you need Amazon S3 style storage?12:36
FabriceBwhat's the purpose of a distributed fs with open stack ?12:37
FabriceBtwo VM accessing the same data ?12:37
FabriceBlike an old fashioned cluster ?12:37
notmynamejasona: swift is good for and unstructured data that can grow without bound (backups, static we resources, documents, etc)12:37
jasonagood q mjf. i guess the assumption was 'yes' because if you were deploying amazon style cloud for the VMs, the thinking was that you should deploy amazon style storage for it alongside as well.12:37
mjforkthere is EBS vs S312:38
jasonaso with nova, you really need to deloy nova-volume to talk to say iscsi luns for your VM os disks etc and s3 storage for.. hmm12:38
mjforkwhat you are talking abuot sounds like EBS style, not S312:38
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mjforki get the impressoin you need VMs with block storage12:39
mjforkthat mount an external FS like your GPFS12:39
FabriceBthat mount block device as far as i know12:39
mjforkany of your VMs have long-lived storage or are they all transient?12:39
FabriceBthat can be provided using iscsi12:39
FabriceBor locale image12:40
jasonadefine 'transient' please ? there are definitely datasets that are persistent.. but..12:40
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mjforkthe datasets persist, but they live on GPFS or similar irght?12:42
jasonacurrently yes.12:42
jasonalooking at various options into the future12:42
mjforkok, then the VMs spin up and get the data from GPFS they need12:43
mjforkdo some processing, probably weight back to GPFS12:43
FabriceBis gpfs mandatory ?12:43
mjforkweight = write12:43
jasonait isn't mandatory but gpfs is what i have on the floor now. i'm certainly looking at all the various vendor options12:44
jasonaisilon is one. hp have ibrix. netapp talk about their shared fs as well on E series..12:44
jasonamjf: yep.12:44
jasonathe project is about providing infrastructure to researchers 1) to make it easier for them to spin up VMs12:45
FabriceBjasnon; to provide image to attache to VM ?12:45
jasonaand 2) help other people find this data12:45
jasonaand 3) provide a long term home for it12:45
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jasonaone of the big issues identified here with research data was simply that if it's not online somewhere then it's impossible for people to find it / make use of it etc.. so..12:45
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FabriceBjasona: plain iscsi was too slow ?12:46
mjforki think you need to seperate this into multiple pieces12:46
FabriceBho, you want a shared storage ? like good old nfs ?12:46
FabriceBbut with performance of block devices ?12:46
jasonafabrice: there are various flaws with iscsi or nfs that gpfs helps to address.12:47
jasonaeven if you then nfs export a directory sitting on top of gpfs..12:47
jasonasharing a fs between VMs is just one of them.12:47
FabriceBthat's becomming strange to me12:47
jasonawell here is an example of gpfs deployment12:48
jasonastorage server w/ metadata and attached block storage as gpfs failure group 112:48
jasonasame as above, but gpfs failure group 212:48
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jasonayou can then attach a physical host (or a VM) as a gpfs node and if you need to take either group down, the service keeps going.12:48
jasonasimple enough ?12:48
mjforkis the GPFS in production now and holding all of the reease data?12:48
FabriceBease nfs cluster12:48
FabriceBi got it12:49
jasonamjf: i couldn't honestly say 'production' quite yet but it's awfully close.12:49
jasonafab: i'm reasonably familiar with nfs (perhaps less so with pnfs/clustered nfs) and one of the things that gpfs brought was the ability to add storage or do maintenance 'on the fly' which seemed like something nfs is less able to do.12:50
FabriceBjasona: for that nfs relies on the fs storage12:51
mjforkso, it sounds like your OpenStack question is how do I get VMs that can access the GPFS storage to run jobs?12:51
FabriceBit provides no help12:51
FabriceBor perhaps nfs 4.112:51
jasonafab: yep. so then the question came back to.. if you can just do that with gpfs clients directly, why bother with NFS unless you had some specific requirement to access data that way (e.g if you didn't want to use a gpfs client for some reason)12:52
jasonamjf: that's one q, yes12:52
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FabriceByes, i get you're point12:52
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FabriceBbut gpfs provides acces to shared block device12:53
FabriceBso you still needs to publish them to a vm12:53
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FabriceBand so iscsi strikes back ?12:53
jasonaso going back to it, if i have a shared fs of some sort (gpfs, stornext, OneFS etc) that's great for data sets etc12:53
jasonabut 1) how do i tie them back into VMs provided through OS ?12:54
FabriceBOS aka object storage ?12:54
jasonaand 2) where exactly does the OS storage model come into it (e.g swift)12:54
jasona1 referred to OS compute. nova.12:54
jasona1) may be simple. have a gpfs client inside OS (nova) vms. or have them access a nfs server.12:55
jasonadon't know what i don't know though, hence the q.12:55
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mjforkyes on #112:56
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mjforkyour OS image would have the GPFS client in it to access the FS12:56
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mjforkon #2, I would suggest reading up on Amazon S313:03
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mjforkits not a filesystem, but has buckets which contain objects13:04
mjforkBuckets and objects can be created, listed, and retrieved using either a REST-style HTTP interface or a SOAP interface.13:04
jasonaso an example might be, create an image for a VM and then use an s3 approach to create a bucket to put that VM file into the bucket13:05
jasonayes ?13:05
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mjforkno, the VMs are not stored in a buckey13:05
mjforkhowever, a snapshot backing up a VM could be13:05
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mjforktypically you store large, long lived objects in the store13:06
mjforkpictures, entire datasets, etc.13:06
mjforkanohter use case is backups13:06
mjforki dump my database everynight, i take the resulting file and put it to the Object Store13:06
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jasonasorry, i didn't mean a live VM. yes if you took a snap and wanted to store it somewhere, s3 is good for it as a store.13:07
jasonai.e you are dealing with everything as objects rather than posix fs.13:07
mjforkthe best uses are the Write Once, Read many13:07
mjforkyes, exactly13:07
mjforkobjects can be updated, but the best uses are WORM ones13:07
jasonaor if you have to deal with it as a posix fs, then it's an awfully slow (well convoluted) since it involves a helper app to pull your object out, make a change and put it back ?13:08
mjforkyeah, there are adapters to use S3 like a filesystem...but hard to believe thats much more than a toy13:08
mjforkif you want a FS, deploy a FS13:08
notmynamemjfork: +113:09
mjforkjasona: one potential use for Swift in your environment is storing output of long runs13:12
mjforki am assumign researchers read from GPFS, do some calcs, and generate output13:12
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mjforkthat could be stored in swift, although my gut tells me they would want it on GPFS13:13
crussellOpinion, what is the best method for shared disk storage to utilize live migrations?13:15
mjforkas in ... a SAN vs NAS?13:16
crussellmethod, not technology13:16
crussellI seem to be having some difficulties with nfs.. sharing back to the primary node13:16
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mjforki have never done it, but may be able to help. whats the issue?13:19
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livemoonwho meet use glance with keystone this error: AttributeError: 'RequestContext' object has no attribute 'is_image_visible'13:28
crussellmjfork?  You speaking to me?13:28
mjforkcrussell: yes, you said you had a problem, but not specifics13:28
crussellIf so, the primary issue is this:  A requirement to utilize NFS is that the UID and GID match between compute nodes that you intend on sharing disks.  Well.... every time I attempt to change th UID to GID to match on the secondary compute node.13:29
crussellTHe compute services go completely crazy.13:29
crussellIt will just start flapping, and never stay started.13:29
crussellI've tried by changing through usermod, i've tried by precreating accounts ( installer didn't like ), i've tried modifying /etc/passwd and /etc/group13:30
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annegentlehey Razique I need to respond to your mailing list item, thanks for doing that13:30
crussellto no avail.. same results.13:30
Raziquehey annegentle no pb13:30
RaziqueI've also have a pending commit, I thnik u'll be the one to validate it :D13:31
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crussellTo even get compute node back to a stable state.. I have to remove everything including dependancies, clean out accounts, groups, log files, conf files... then reinstall.13:31
crussellAnd once i do that.. back in the same boat.....13:31
annegentleRazique: ok, cool! thanks for the heads up. I need to figure out my mail filters to make sure those rise to the top of my inbox :)13:31
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Raziqueu sure u don't have a filter that trashes the mails that contain my name ? :p13:32
annegentleRazique: so if we start a working group just on nova doc, I don't know if I can head it up specifically since I'm responsible for all the projects not just nova.13:32
annegentleRazique: ha ha ha no :)13:32
annegentleRazique: but if you or kbringard or someone else is interested in heading up the working group I'd be happy to help13:32
* annegentle tries to not overcommit and be fair13:32
Raziqueyou could delegate people to branches yah13:32
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livemoonRazique : i am glad to help .too13:33
Raziquethus we could have independant cycles for every project13:33
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Raziqueawesome then livemoon :)13:33
kbringardwhat are we talking about?13:33
Raziquehey kbringard :) we are talking about working groups for openstack documentation13:34
kbringardoooo, working group for nova13:34
kbringardI have not had my coffee this morning, to bleary eyes make it hard to read13:34
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annegentleI'm in California this week and up before the sun :)13:36
annegentlebut yes, you guys talk about it think about it - and I'll see who else might be interested too13:36
annegentleI'm also interested in the api working group since that's relevant to docs too13:36
kbringardah, coffee, giver of life13:38
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livemoontoday I will go to bed early13:40
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Raziquelivemoon: Keystone killed you13:42
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fabiohello people. i'm having problems in making openstack working on a multiple node setup. actually i am bit confused... i have a server with 2 interfaces (controller) and the nodes have only one interface. is this enough to run a cloud?13:42
Raziqueannegentle: yah, sure, I'm totally up to lead that part, glad if I could help with kbringard on that part13:43
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backburneris this channel logged and searchable by chance?13:43
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annegentleRazique: awesome13:43
livemoonRazique: I have finished glance with keystone :)13:43
Raziquelivemoon: awesome!13:44
Raziquehow do you use it13:44
annegentlebackburner: yep, use eavesdrop.openstack.org and then use Google's site: filter on your search in Google13:44
RaziqueI'm almost done with nova and keystone here13:44
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Vadim2hi all13:44
livemoonwait a min, I write in my blog13:45
Vadim2guys eucatools work with keystone?13:46
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RaziqueVadim2: not that i"m sure of13:51
Raziquewait let me try :D13:52
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Raziquenot at all :D13:54
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fabiojust yes/no is strongly appreciated14:05
jehI'm having problems getting glance, and keystone to play nice together.  Could someone familiar with them take a look at my config please: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2759/14:06
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livemoonRazique: http://livemoon.dyndns.org/life/2011/10/openstackglance-and-keystone.html14:08
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livemoonit's my blog14:08
Raziquegreat ; thanks a ton !14:08
Raziquevery apreciated into the Keystone's doc desert14:09
Raziqueis it ok if we reuse it for the doc ?14:09
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koolhead17livemoon:  cool!!14:09
livemoonnot now14:09
Raziqueok, u tell me14:09
livemoonmaybe i will test some days14:09
RaziqueI'm myself gathering infos, the much we have, the better it is14:10
Raziqueso livemoon when you perform a task such as "glance index" you go through Keystone ?14:11
livemoonyes, I use glance -A "token" index14:11
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Raziqueok perfect14:12
jehthat sounds similar to the problem I'm having, I can't get glance index to work without using -A14:12
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Raziqueglance: error: no such option: -d14:19
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Raziquemmm maybe Glance from the repo doesn't have such token option14:19
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crussellOk, i've finally fixed my stupid second compute server.  Does anyone have any good walk through in getting LIVE_MIGRATIONS working?14:20
Raziquecrussell: here http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/live-migration-usage.html14:21
Raziquetoday, the only way to perform migration is to use the api14:21
Raziquethat one implements the migraiton https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient14:21
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crussellwith nova-manage vm live_migrations?  correct?14:21
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kbringardcrussell: the main thing is that the instance directory needs to a shared resource that all compute nodes have read/write access to14:22
Raziqueoh yes you are right14:22
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Raziqueyou could also you nova-manage, my bad14:22
crussellkbringard:  ON that note14:22
crussellkbringard:  here is what i've tried, and what has broken it everytime.14:22
crussellkbringard:  NFS, exported from priamry cluster, and then mounted on the secondar.14:23
crussellon the secondar, i stopped compute, deleted instances dir, recreate with right permissions, then mounted to that dir14:23
crussellI have my uid, gid mathing now, and permission show right now.. but it neverseems to migrate.  the command successfully goes, adn it says to just watch euca-describe-instances14:23
kbringardI've not setup live migration in many months, but when I did that was all I did :-/14:24
kbringardso perhaps it's bugged?14:24
livemoonpastbin how to past picture?14:25
Raziquelivemoon: imageshack sorry ^^14:26
tjoythat's giving up14:26
tjoybase64 encode it14:26
Raziquecrussell: try to use the virsh command mannualy14:26
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Raziquei think it's virsh --migrate --live $domain ssh+qemu://$host2/system14:26
livemoonRazique: http://livemoon.dyndns.org/life/images/Screen%20Shot%202011-10-18%20at%2010.15.15%20PM.png14:26
Raziqueand u'll see on the seconde node via virsh --list if the domain appears14:27
livemoonit is my screen14:27
livemoonI think glance via keystone14:27
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Raziquelivemoon: could you run appart a $ tail -f /var/log/keystone/*14:28
Raziquewhile you run a glance -A $token index14:28
crussellok i will try that.. giving it a shot again14:29
Raziqueso we make sure it's keystone which forwards the right endpoint ?14:29
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crussellSomeone please look at this documention, http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-live-migrations.html14:37
crussellspecifically the part about the export.14:37
crussellDoesn't this line NOVA-INST-DIR/instances HostA/,sync,fsid=0,no_root_squash) make the assumtion that i am running nova service as root?14:38
livemoonit is keystone log when I use glance -A "token" index14:38
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livemoonRazique: why every debug twice, i don't know14:38
Raziqueok so it's definitely working :)14:38
RaziqueDo you use Glance from the repo ?14:39
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livemoonuse apt-get in 11.1014:39
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catbot_Hi, in diablo, I cannot i18n the dashboard with {% trans "my string" %}, but it worked fine when using gettext() in view.py. I'd just like to know if anybody has the same issue14:40
Raziquelivemoon: what dpkg -l | grep glance outputs ?14:40
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catbot_additional, {% trans "my string" %} works fine on cactus14:40
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livemoonRazique: ii  glance                          2011.3-0ubuntu4                         OpenStack Image Registry and Delivery Service - Daemons14:42
livemoonii  python-glance                   2011.3-0ubuntu4                         OpenStack Image Registry and Delivery Service - Python library14:42
Raziqueweird we have the same version14:42
Raziquebut the flag -A doesn't work here14:42
livemoonRazique: bye14:42
livemoonsee you tomorrow14:42
Raziqueok ok14:42
Raziquethanks ;)14:42
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crussellYeah, this documentation is out of date14:48
crussellAlso, check file/daemon permissions. We expect any nova daemons are running as root.14:48
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crussellWhich is not at all the case with the install on natty.14:48
crussellIt runs everything as nova.14:48
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crussellI'm going to figure it to run as nova.. how to i contribute the changes for this docs?14:51
jehIs keystone-manage user delete supposed to work? I get http://paste.openstack.org/show/2761/14:51
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annegentlecrussell: would love updates, the source is in http://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals - specifically in doc/src/docbkx/openstack-compute-admin/computeconfigure.xml14:58
crussellthanks, if i have any troubles i will reach out..14:59
annegentlejeh: I've "heard" on here (IRC) that it only does add?14:59
annegentlecrussell: great, thanks - it works like the code does, see http://wiki.openstack.org/GerritWorkflow or http://wiki.openstack.org/Documentation/HowTo14:59
uvirtbotNew bug: #877417 in nova "Formatting error for error messages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87741715:00
uvirtbotNew bug: #877425 in openstack-common "urls in novarc are wrong generated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87742515:00
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uvirtbotNew bug: #877305 in openstack-qa "/nova/notifier/list_notifier.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87730515:01
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uvirtbotNew bug: #877291 in openstack-qa "/nova/notifier/log_notifier.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87729115:05
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jehannegen: looks like it, although keystone-manage user help says it should work.  I've submitted a bug report.15:08
annegentlejeh: ok, sounds like the right course of action :)15:09
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gnu111swift question: I was able to upload files. But my accounts, objects, containers, and tmp directories in the nodes are all world reabable. Something is off.15:14
FabriceBthere is no security in swift storage node15:15
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FabriceBthey should be protected from the “outside world”15:15
FabriceBwhatever it is15:16
uvirtbotNew bug: #877504 in keystone "v0.9 keystone-manage user delete not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87750415:16
notmynamegnu111: are they set as the right user? and what what uid is the process running with?15:16
notmynameFabriceB: completely different15:16
gnu111notmyname: swift:swift15:16
FabriceBnotmyname: rsync is also world-open in storage nodes15:17
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FabriceBand no easy way to protected it15:17
notmynamegnu111: to clarify, the permissions are set as 777?15:17
gnu111Yes. drwxrwxrwx15:17
FabriceBdrwxrwxrwx 2175 swift swift 49152 Oct 11 15:37 /srv/node/loop7/objects15:18
notmynamegnu111: I was just told that it's a known bug that has a patch coded but as yet unreleased15:18
FabriceBsame here15:18
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FabriceBbut : [container]15:18
FabriceBmax connections = 215:18
FabriceBpath = /srv/node/15:18
FabriceBread only = false15:18
FabriceBlock file = /var/lock/container.lock15:18
FabriceBin rsyncd.conf, as request15:19
FabriceBthat's almost the same15:19
FabriceBno authentication15:19
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FabriceBuid = swift15:19
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notmynameFabriceB: no easy way to protect the rsync connections? the advice has always been to not run it on a public network15:20
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gnu111my $PROXY_LOCAL_NET_IP is set to a private ip.15:20
FabriceBbut giving every one already on that network full access15:20
FabriceBthat's too much15:20
FabriceBthat's an egg security15:20
FabriceBone the first layer is broken, everything is full open15:20
FabriceBand by broken, juste one plain user with nobody access is enough15:21
FabriceBso even the tape operator can read all data15:21
gnu111notmyname: do you have the link to the bug report?15:21
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notmynamegnu111: let me look15:22
robixany insight on adding nova-volume to keystone services?  Or, what's the proper way to expose nova-volume API?  Should I just create another service type "volume"?15:22
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gnu111notmyname: is it this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/869235 ?15:24
notmynameya. just found that. looks like it15:24
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crussellCan someone please perform a live-migration, and tell me what is supposed to occur after my last line listed in http://pastebin.com/wpMZp8Uh15:26
crussellThe migration never completes15:26
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FabriceBthe rsync configuration i gave gives exactly the same right than a umask 015:28
FabriceBand that's the configuration provided by swift15:28
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notmynameFabriceB: I'd be happy to review a patch that adds more security to the internal parts of swift15:32
FabriceBbut there is a lot of things to be done15:32
FabriceBa good umask15:32
FabriceBa secure rsync15:32
FabriceBdoes the communcation between storage and proxy authenticated ?15:33
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notmynameno (it uses standard http)15:33
FabriceBi'm not talking about encryption15:34
FabriceBjuste authentication15:34
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crussell Unable to pre-create chardev file '/var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000114/console.log': Permission denied15:38
crussellseems to be my problem15:38
uvirtbotNew bug: #877525 in quantum "Unit tests dump log to stdout/stderr" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87752515:41
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Oneiroimay sound odd, anyone got the openstack logo as ASCII ? so I can inject it into node motds's ?16:14
FabriceByou can always try : http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/libcaca16:15
OneiroiYeh I _could_ I suppose16:17
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Oneiroior ... http://www.text-image.com/convert/ascii.html16:18
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Oneiroibut the webone is infact crap ><16:19
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uvirtbotNew bug: #877571 in openstack-ci "Simplify search with link to Gitweb from Gerrit front page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87757116:42
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robixcan anyone confirm the syntax to add nova-volume to the keystone service list?16:53
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heckjhajik: ola18:45
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hajikif i have 2 machines with 160gb and 1gb of ram, will i be able to run an instance? im guessing only a tiny one, right?18:46
heckja tiny one (ttylinux) should work18:46
heckj1gb is awfully small though, you might have some trouble with that18:46
heckj(i.e. VERY slow)18:47
hajikwhere can i find ttylinux images?18:47
crussellQuestion: How does highavailability look in nova-compute?  And fundementally how would it work?18:47
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heckjcrussell: not sure I grok your question - is it "how do I make the nova-compute service highly available"?18:48
heckjhajik: there's a link in the devstack.org scripted install, and I'm sure it's listed in the wiki somewhere18:49
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hajikok thanks18:49
crussellWell at i read... virtuals are still a one to one relationship to their compute host.  Live migration can be setup, but i see nothing about heartbeats to test availability of a virtual.  SO therefore if a compute server goes down, so does it's virtuals.18:50
crussellFurther, network communications route through the nova-network.18:50
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crussellIf it goes down, well that is a big issue.18:50
crussellI see the advantages of scaling out/wide with simple ease, and metering that scale..18:51
heckjcrussell: yeah, you've got it - that's the state of the union today. There's nothing managing orchestration of the existence of VMs on a compute node should that node fail.18:51
crussellbut how do i ensure it stays up, and moves sites if necesary18:51
heckjcrussell: most of the philosophy of using VM's in this kind of environment has been to assume they're disposable and ephemeral, easy recreated.18:52
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heckjcrussell: to do that means changing a lot of currently-commonly-used architectures for making applications, which is why nova also has enabled live-migration to make it easier to adopt and move in18:53
crussellwell given that, predefined virtuals to attach to a nova-swift volume for data does you no good if the system isn't wise enough to know itself is down18:53
hajiki found these: http://smoser.brickies.net/ubuntu/ttylinux-uec/18:53
heckjhajik: that's it!18:53
hajikyay, nice18:53
heckjcrussell: most of the HA work has been in making the control plane for IaaS highly available, with the expectation that a failure of a piece of hardware shouldn't take down the overall system. It will still, however, loose VMs in that process.18:54
crussellheckj: ok, what about putting a load balancer in front of and behind a network node to atleast begin creating site survivability18:54
crussellok, so is this the intended direction forever?18:55
heckjcrussell: absolutely - that's where incoming projects like Atlas are making some inroads, and there's talk about orchestration over the top of OpenStack (maybe a part of OpenStack - that's getting into philosophical discussions that are ongoing) to do some of what you're talking about18:55
heckjcrussell: In a project like this, there's never a "intended direction forever".18:56
crussellAnd it makes me wonder how rackspace provides 4 9's for these systems, given that it's their intial baby18:56
heckjcrussell: You can influence where this project goes and what it does simply by submitting code - the joy of an open and open-source project18:56
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crussellYeah no i get it, i'm just an engineer for a company that wants to make a jump into markets like this but the investment and return is always the question18:57
crussellAnd my cio is only concerned about up time.18:57
heckjcrussell: I totally get where you're coming from - switching to "cloud technologies" without also considering your application architecture in doing so is a recipe for disaster. I've been there, walked into a few of those fires18:59
mjforkheckj: +118:59
mjforkadopting cloud with out adopting processes for the cloud is not productive18:59
mjforka true cloud app could care less if a VM disappeared18:59
mjfork"failure happens, plan for it"18:59
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smoseranyone have thoughts on this bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/85503019:00
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__Benhi all19:03
crussellPacemaker seems to start the ball rolling on the necessary intelligence to ensure avilability.19:03
zykes-what's pacemaker?19:04
heckjcrussell: It'll definitely help. It's a bit of a PITA to configure and set up, but definitely does the trick.19:04
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sdakepacemaker-cloud is not difficult to set up19:04
sdaketwo different things19:04
heckjzykes-: http://www.linux-ha.org/wiki/Main_Page19:04
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crussellI suppose i should fall back and punt, and describe my intial intentions on looking into this private cloud setup.. more specifically the IaaS mantra.19:04
sdakezykes cloud version -> www.pacemaker-cloud.org19:05
sdakezykes bare metal version -> www.clusterlabs.org19:05
crussellRunning windows servers on top of it... With services such as exchange, ocs, sharepoint, etc.  And then down the road some linux voip solutions.19:06
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crussellBut the more i read, this just can't help....19:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #877661 in nova "test_stop_start_with_volume test occasionally fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87766119:06
mjforkcrussell: yeah, those look more like server vritualization workloads19:06
crussellI realizes it's intentions, and agree with it.. in that consuming the services provided here is how applications need to work later19:07
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mjforkdon't get me wrong, they *could* run on openstack but if uptime and availability are #1 ....19:07
crussellSadly it took me two weeks of making it work to realize this. =/19:07
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heckjcrussell: no knowledge learned is a bad thing19:08
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crussellWhat would be cool to come out of this.. A company has their own zone setup, and it constantly replicated to another partners zone... Company A's zone goes down, and is spun up at their partners.19:09
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crussellThe partner zone, could be amazon for that matter.19:09
crussellBut you're right the orchestration is missing19:10
sdakecrussell escalation -> www.pacemaker-cloud.org19:10
crussellIt handles the federation?19:10
zykes-sdake: so kind of a PaaS alike funcitoning thing?19:10
zykes-or a component of it19:10
sdakeno, more focused on IAAS systems, HA is usually built into PAAS designs19:11
sdakeread website, join mailing list, enjoy :)19:11
zykes-sdake: built into it how exactly ? restarting stuff etc ?19:11
crusselli'm going too19:11
sdakeya focus on restart19:12
sdakethats the ha mantra19:12
crussellProviding data is consistent across sites.. a restart is fine.19:12
zykes-is there a plan to get that into openstack ?19:12
sdakerather detect failure->isolate->recover->notify19:12
sdakeopen source, not a miracle worker, time will tell :)19:13
sdakemight find slide deck handy19:13
zykes-slide deck ?19:15
sdakeya there are slides on the website19:15
sdake"Project Slides"19:15
crussellHow do you mirror a cluster?? +)19:17
crussellthat'd get it done.. =)19:17
crussellconceptually of course19:17
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crussellsdake, funny you're in http://www.redhat.com/summit/2011/presentations/summit/whats_new/thursday/dake_th_1130_high_availability_in_the_cloud.pdf19:24
crussellsdake @ beast19:24
sdakeya laptop name19:24
crussellInteresting read, ty19:26
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jcannavaAnyone using Dashboard have vncproxy working? Dash keeps redirecting me to
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rmkjcannava: Set --vnc_proxyurl=http://host:port in your config20:33
rmksorry vncproxy_url20:33
jcannavaso I have that in nova.conf:20:33
jcannava# VNCPROXY20:33
rmkerr vncproxy_url .. can't type20:34
rmkso your config parameter is incorrect20:34
jcannavastill rolls to localhost20:34
rmkdid you restart nova-api?20:36
rmkthat's what's actually using that flag20:36
jcannavaah no, restarted nova-vncproxy.20:36
jcannavaworks now, thanks.20:36
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uvirtbotNew bug: #837535 in quantum "plugins do not comply with quantum_plugin_interface" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83753521:21
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hajiki need help with the dashboard on ubuntu 11.1021:35
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devcamcarhajik: what problems are you having?21:36
hajikwell i installed it from the repos21:36
hajiki dont know how to run it21:36
zykes-has anyone here bothered trying to setup Quantum ?21:37
hajiki think the package also installs apache and mod_python21:38
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uvirtbotNew bug: #834012 in quantum "API: GET networks/{net_id}/detail is inefficient" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83401221:41
robix1any example for adding nova-volume to the service list?21:42
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backburner2anyone know how to snapshot an instance to a launchable emi file?21:51
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Pr0toc0lhello all....question, is there a way to use curl to make api calls to create volumes?22:03
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heckjPr0toc0l: I'm pretty sure there is, although I don't know what's exposed in the Openstack 1.1 API - but it's all REST based, so it should be quite doable.22:09
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Pr0toc0lyeah i'm looking into that right now22:10
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heckjPr0toc0l: I'm totally lying to you - I don't see any volume manipulation in the API right now: http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-compute/1.1/content/22:12
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heckjI know it works through the ec2 API, but I"m not seeing the analog22:14
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Pr0toc0lahh..ok...i knew i was seeing that right...it's nice to have a second pair of eyes to validate22:16
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Pr0toc0lthank heckj22:16
heckjPr0toc0l - there's an extension API that has the volume stuff in it (not sure where it's doc'd at) - but the API doesn't apparently work at the moment. At least that what I'm hearing from behind me22:17
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Pr0toc0li see....i'll google22:18
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hajiknope, the package also installs apache and mod_wsgi22:24
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viddIm trying to set up a new cloud and i'm having an issue getting glance and keystone to work together....22:26
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viddim trying to use the glance add command and im getting 401 Unauthorized22:27
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viddI know i have to pass on my admin key with -A [key] ...do i have to pass on user as well?22:28
jcannavano -A [key] should be sufficient22:30
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viddshould i be doing $"sudo glance...." or #"glance......22:31
viddor should i be a standard user?22:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #877777 in openstack-dashboard "Novaclient authentication has possible failure case" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/87777722:31
rmkAnyone know what dashboard's syntax for "any port" is in reference to security groups?22:31
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rmkvidd: User shouldn't matter, you're hitting the api anyway22:35
rmkvidd: And all you should need is -A22:35
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viddthere is a space between -A and the key22:36
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rmkthats fine22:36
viddshould -H be "localhost"  "" or the IP of the machine?22:37
viddkeystone and glance are both on the same server22:38
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TogerHello, I am using devstack.org' script. Everything seems to be proceeding fine, but when I try to log in to the dashboard, I get 'Unexpected error' in the web console. If I intentionally use an incorrect password it gives me authentication denied, so I am confident in the password. The apache logs say 'nonspecific error while handling form', http://paste.openstack.org/show/2764/. Any suggestion on what is happening?22:42
Togerthis was using the stock devstack.org script, so it pulled novaclient dashboard from 'master' and keystone from 'diablo'22:43
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viddToger, have you resatrted the machine since you first ran the script?22:45
TogerNo; is that normally necessary?22:45
viddno...if you do it messes things up22:46
viddand you have to run the script again22:46
viddhave you made any modifications to the script?22:46
TogerNo modifications.22:47
Togerstackrc unmodified too22:47
viddVM or hardware run?22:47
TogerESXi, enterprise license22:48
viddtry restarting and re-running the script22:48
Togerok, ill try that.22:49
vidddash runs in a VM so is it possible issue with vm in vm ?22:49
viddi made modifications to the script to get my instance to work...but i was working with physical hardware22:50
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viddrmk, all i need for glance add commad is  ...  glance add name"[image-name]" is_public=[true/false] </path/to/image -H -A [admin-key]22:58
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viddor am i missing something?22:58
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mjforklooks out of order?23:00
mjforkyour < /path/to/imge should be dead last23:00
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viddwell...that took longer to fail....so off to investigate the NEW issue =]23:03
viddth ya mjfork for getting past the auth error23:03
viddnow im getting ECONNREFUSED ....23:05
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hajikwhere can i find a guide to configure the dashboard with apache223:09
mjforkvidd: whats in log?23:09
TogerRestarted, reran devstack.sh, am getting same error.23:10
viddhajik, http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/openstack-beginners-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04-installation-and-configuration/23:10
viddmjfork, api or registry?23:10
mjforkis there a stack trace23:10
vidd! paste23:11
openstackvidd: Error: "paste" is not a valid command.23:11
viddmjfork, where is stack trace? (or is that the CLI leading up to the error)23:12
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mjforkI would expect soemthing in the logs with the ECONNREFUSED message23:13
mjforkare you sure rthat glance is running on local machine?23:13
viddyes...its running23:13
mjforknetstat -tnap | grep 929223:14
mjforkwhat address is it listening on?23:14
viddlisten 22792/python23:15
viddtcp        0      0  *               LISTEN      22792/python23:15
mjforkglance -H -p 9292 index23:17
mjforkwhat does that do23:17
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viddNot authorized to make this request. Check your credentials (OS_AUTH_USER, OS_AUTH_KEY, ...).23:19
rmkthat's not going to work with keystone, need -A23:19
rmkvidd: ANd yeah your command earlier looks fine23:20
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viddrmk, i needed the host and auth key before the < /path to file23:21
viddresults of index request: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2765/23:22
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viddi can telnet to 929223:25
viddso the port is open and listening23:26
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jhmartinCan anyone point me to documentation about configuring vmware with openstack? I see that it is listed as supported but I don't see anywhere to put in the API destinations.23:45
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viddjhmartin, have you looked at http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/hypervisor-configuration-basics.html ?23:46
jhmartinI see that, it actually doesn't mention vmware as a valid libvirt_type23:48
jhmartinand I think it would need some info about the vmware admin location / credentials.23:49
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jhmartinI see virt/vmwareapi in the source tree,23:52
viddjhmartin, http://wiki.openstack.org/HypervisorSupportMatrix says ESX compatibility-Needs testing23:53
jhmartinI'm running ESXi23:53
jhmartinI think I found it, ./doc/source/vmwareapi_readme.rst talks about the config settings needed.23:54
viddjhmartin, sorry...i wasnt much help23:55
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jhmartinJust surprised I couldn't find anything on the web about the config considering the big Citrix announcement about vmware+openstack.23:56
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