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| daMaestro | so the diablo storage admin guide says to use keystone.. but then proceeds to show usage of swauth | 00:26 |
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| daMaestro | if we are setting up a new pool of servers, should we use keystone or swauth.. and if keystone... where are the recommended docs at? | 00:26 |
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| vidd | anyone know where middleware for keystone is supposed to be when installed via git? | 00:37 |
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| vidd | daMaestro, are you using keystone for everything else? | 00:40 |
| daMaestro | we are only looking at object store | 00:40 |
| daMaestro | nova, glance and horizon are not being evaluated | 00:41 |
| vidd | daMaestro, are you using nova or glance? [the answer to this will assist in determining is you would be well served with keystone] | 00:42 |
| daMaestro | it looks like the middleware is easy enough to configure | 00:42 |
| daMaestro | we are not using nova or glance with this setup | 00:42 |
| daMaestro | at some point, we will look at it... but not yet | 00:42 |
| daMaestro | keystone looks easy enough to setup, it's just the swift docs (even for diablo) still show swauth | 00:43 |
| vidd | daMaestro, then my recommendation is to, for the time being anyway, use swauth | 00:43 |
| vidd | keystone may LOOK easy...but looks can be decieving =] | 00:43 |
| vidd | and why add a layer of difficulty when you don't need to | 00:44 |
| vidd | unless you intend on intigrating LDAP or some other extername authentication system | 00:45 |
| vidd | *external | 00:45 |
| daMaestro | yeah, and i think i just found that you can't create readonly credentials? | 00:46 |
| notmyname | you can with swauth | 00:46 |
| daMaestro | being able to mark an object as "read by anyone, read-only with credentials, and r/w" is very important to us | 00:46 |
| daMaestro | rather, an account | 00:47 |
| daMaestro | per object is not important | 00:47 |
| johnpur | per container? | 00:47 |
| daMaestro | yes, per account/container combinations is what we would need | 00:47 |
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| notmyname | daMaestro: all of that works with swauth | 00:48 |
| daMaestro | k, so i need to just ignore the diablo "pssst look at keystone" for now | 00:48 |
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| vidd | daMaestro, until your needs change =] | 00:49 |
| notmyname | ya. keystone is the future for openstack in general, but your needs may require something else. I think an active area of current keystone dev work is setting up the ACLs | 00:49 |
| notmyname | perhaps a keystone dev can correct me | 00:49 |
| daMaestro | we are just looking at swift for an s3 like storage bucket api... so we don't have to write our own | 00:50 |
| daMaestro | or, use an external api | 00:50 |
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| daMaestro | i'm running into some odd issues.. but i think it's because i'm running the cluster on a single hypervisor ;-) | 00:51 |
| notmyname | swift also provides (limited) s3 api compatibility. it can help in a transition, but the best long-term use is the use the swift api | 00:51 |
| notmyname | you are running swift on VMs? | 00:51 |
| daMaestro | basically... swift-object-auditor is sitting in i/o wait fairly often | 00:52 |
| daMaestro | poc, testing... yes we have it running on a hypervisor | 00:52 |
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| notmyname | running in a VM will of course affect I/O speed | 00:53 |
| notmyname | you can tune the auditor to slow down, if needed | 00:53 |
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| daMaestro | yeah, i'm just trying to more look at why it's doing it | 00:53 |
| daMaestro | we created 8 million objects in buckets | 00:53 |
| notmyname | the auditor essentially walks the entire drive. it does a ton of IO | 00:53 |
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| daMaestro | http://fpaste.org/WdP8/ is what we ran (iowait at 8 million was too much so we stopped it) against each proxy server with two nodes with a replica count of 2 | 00:57 |
| vidd | ok...so i have an egg for keystone....is that enough? or did i miss a step somewhere? | 00:58 |
| daMaestro | notmyname, i've not found any python and php client apis that are as easy as boto | 00:58 |
| daMaestro | re: swift api vs s3 api | 00:58 |
| notmyname | daMaestro: have you looked at the rackspace cloud files bindings? | 00:59 |
| daMaestro | yeah, i looked into cloudfiles.. maybe i need to look at it somemore | 00:59 |
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| livemoon | morning | 01:00 |
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| notmyname | daMaestro: another python wrapper you could use is in the swift code itself (but it is stand-alone) https://github.com/openstack/swift/blob/master/swift/common/client.py | 01:00 |
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| debo_os | hi did anyone try to install devstack distro tofay | 01:01 |
| debo_os | I | 01:01 |
| debo_os | I cant seem to install | 01:01 |
| vidd | hello livemoon | 01:02 |
| livemoon | hi, vidd | 01:02 |
| livemoon | do you have this case: glance-api error and crashed when I use dashboard(click instances page if instance exists) | 01:03 |
| vidd | livemoon, im still hashing out keystone issues | 01:04 |
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| vidd | have not gotten to installing horizon yet | 01:04 |
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| livemoon | ok | 01:04 |
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| daMaestro | so i assume that i need to pass in authurl of our swift proxy.... | 01:04 |
| daMaestro | but that is not exposed sanely... i had to go read the cloudfiles.Connection constructor to get that | 01:05 |
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| daMaestro | but it looks like i need to do a more thorough review of cloudfiles | 01:07 |
| vidd | is there anyone here that knows where the keystone middleware is? | 01:08 |
| daMaestro | https://github.com/openstack/keystone | 01:09 |
| vidd | ?? | 01:09 |
| vidd | daMaestro, no...i meant once it is installed =] | 01:09 |
| daMaestro | did you use pip or easy_install? | 01:09 |
| vidd | python setup.py install | 01:10 |
| daMaestro | you should have some keystone* commands in your bindir, the rest will go into site-packages | 01:11 |
| daMaestro | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/0bb26b959e856be12f75c403f444bcf706ee7660/setup.py | 01:11 |
| Kiall | vidd, if you used a command like that, its in /usr/loacal | 01:11 |
| Kiall | er, /usr/local/ that is | 01:11 |
| vidd | well i found keystone-2011.3.1-py2.7.egg | 01:11 |
| vidd | but should there not be a not-egg folder? | 01:11 |
| daMaestro | there should be a site-packages/keystone.. yes | 01:13 |
| daMaestro | python -c 'import keystone' ... | 01:13 |
| Kiall | vidd, I still cant understand why you're installing this the way you are ;) Reminded me of an email to the OS mailiing list a while back: | 01:14 |
| Kiall | "...as we do not expect anyone to actually | 01:14 |
| Kiall | install a running OpenStack from PyPI..." | 01:14 |
| Kiall | (The sentiment applies to installing straight from git too) | 01:15 |
| daMaestro | http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2756788 is an example of how things are laid out, which basically uses distribute to do the install | 01:15 |
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| vidd | Kiall, if it is not the intention to install from git, then why do all the docs say how to do it? | 01:17 |
| vidd | and getting it directly from the git repo should be the latest and greatest | 01:18 |
| vidd | with all the bug fixes | 01:18 |
| Kiall | For a few reasons: dev+testing and as a guide for packagers.. I'm sure there is more | 01:18 |
| daMaestro | and all the bugs ;-) | 01:18 |
| daMaestro | i commit bugs all the time, just hope we squashed them all when we stabilize for a release | 01:18 |
| vidd | daMaestro, im gitting from the stablediablo branch | 01:19 |
| Kiall | Installing *anything* on a production server straight from git or pip or rubygems etc is wrong in so many ways ;) | 01:19 |
| daMaestro | Kiall, +1 | 01:19 |
| vidd | the only commits to it SHOULD be bug fixes | 01:19 |
| daMaestro | if you are tracking the release branch, yes | 01:20 |
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| Kiall | vidd, sure, the stable branches should be stable.. but installing straight from git leaves your server in a mess.. | 01:20 |
| Kiall | What if they delete a file? | 01:20 |
| Kiall | it causes isses | 01:20 |
| Kiall | how will you're upgrade procedure handle that? | 01:20 |
| Kiall | your* | 01:21 |
| * daMaestro & | 01:21 | |
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| vidd | then how do you un-python setup something =-\ | 01:25 |
| Kiall | you dont ;) | 01:26 |
| vidd | so yet another format and re-install =\ | 01:26 |
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| Kiall | lol | 01:26 |
| vidd | at least im getting plenty of experience with THAT =] | 01:27 |
| Kiall | LOL | 01:27 |
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| Kiall | One of these days you'll realise its faster to learn how debian (or RPM) packaging works ;) | 01:27 |
| vidd | i know how they work | 01:28 |
| vidd | i just understand how to take a git package and make a .deb out of it | 01:29 |
| Kiall | Thats kinda what I meant by "learn how debian packaging works" ;) | 01:29 |
| vidd | thats now "how they work" that "how they get made" | 01:30 |
| vidd | =] | 01:30 |
| Kiall | no thats "how they work" not "how to use them" P | 01:30 |
| Kiall | :P | 01:30 |
| vidd | po-tay-to/ po-tot-oh | 01:31 |
| vidd | =] | 01:32 |
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| vidd | Kiall, ill have to show you my installer scripts when i get done with them =] | 01:40 |
| vidd | IF i ever get done with them | 01:40 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #890936 in glance "glance-api error when use dashboard show instances" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/890936 | 01:41 |
| vidd | mostly a "fill in the blanks" script | 01:41 |
| vidd | my intention is to make it so easy someone with no clue can get a decent setup running | 01:43 |
| Kiall | "IF i ever get done with them" <-- lol | 01:48 |
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| vidd | Kiall, one issue i have with your ppa is the apt-get install -y managedit-openstack-pin | 01:57 |
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| Kiall | All that does is prevent ubuntu packages getting mixed with mine.. | 01:57 |
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| Kiall | And, its not 100% necessary.. but it makes live a whole lot easier | 01:58 |
| vidd | but eventually *buntu will get thier act together and fix the repos | 01:59 |
| Kiall | Yes - and switching between the packages should be a conscious choice | 01:59 |
| Kiall | not an accident, or worse automatic update | 01:59 |
| Kiall | without the pin, its very likely automatic updates or a simple accident will break stuff... | 02:00 |
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| vidd | and 4 months from now when [theoretically] the new version of ubuntu comes out with openstack diablo fully functional? | 02:01 |
| Kiall | You should make the conscious choice to switch to those packages, by removing the pin and installing the Ubuntu versions | 02:02 |
| Kiall | Ubuntu make all sorts of changes to upstream sources before releasing as .deb's, any one of those changes (or the lack of them in my packages) could cause an "upgrade" from one to the other to completely and utterly fail | 02:03 |
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| vidd | Kiall, you should take one for the team and get on the ubuntu server team =] | 02:05 |
| Kiall | lol .. no counter argument? ;) | 02:05 |
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| vidd | Kiall, i wont be doing any upgrades without sandboxing them first =] | 02:06 |
| vidd | and even though i dont like it, i'll still be using the pin =] | 02:07 |
| Kiall | lol .. thats not a couter argument, thats just common sense ;) Test upgrades before putting them in production ;) | 02:07 |
| vidd | i have no counter aurgument | 02:08 |
| vidd | if i cant even FIND the pieces of keystone, how am i supposed to make sure they upgrade properly in any future update | 02:08 |
| Kiall | lol | 02:08 |
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| Kiall | Seriiousally, Go spend tomorrow learning how to package stuff ;) | 02:09 |
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| Kiall | Seriously* | 02:09 |
| Kiall | The, the day after learning puppet | 02:10 |
| vidd | and how is another person covering for my vacation supposed to run a security update if they havent spent the month figuring out where the pieces go? | 02:10 |
| Kiall | Then on the thrid day, tie the two together and you're done already ;) | 02:10 |
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| vidd | not sure what puppet is =\ | 02:11 |
| Kiall | Its even worse if they "python setup.py" it ;) | 02:11 |
| Kiall | "Oh s*** - this version of keystone isn't compatbile with our nova, where's the undo button dammit!" | 02:11 |
| vidd | and there goes my vacation =] | 02:12 |
| Kiall | exactly, better off just learning to package stuff.. need a security fix? easy. | 02:12 |
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| Kiall | quilt push -a && quilt new security-fix.diff && quit add flle-that-needs-changing.py && vi flle-that-needs-changing.py && quilt refresh && quilt pop -a && dpkg-buildpackage | 02:13 |
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| vidd | vi ....*shutter* | 02:14 |
| Kiall | lol .. i tend to use nano myself, or sublime-text, not sure why i type vi this time ;) | 02:15 |
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| vidd | Kiall, because vi is less keystokes then nano ...and EVERYBOSY knows who vi is =] | 02:15 |
| Kiall | anyway, the point is, it will be much easier to train people how to patch a .deb than muck around with setup scripts, git clones, and pip-installs ;) | 02:16 |
| vidd | saying "vi $file" is the same as saying "$prefered_text_editor $file" | 02:17 |
| * vidd hates pip | 02:17 | |
| vidd | it feels sloppy | 02:17 |
| Kiall | All "language" package managers are IMO ;) | 02:18 |
| Kiall | Anyway - I'm off... | 02:18 |
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| cloudfan | how to config Multiple nodes with a single adapter with flatmanage? | 03:16 |
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| vidd | cloudfan, you have multiple servers, each with a single eth card? | 03:29 |
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| livemoon | hi | 03:53 |
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| Guest5952 | I am a newbie and I wanted to know whether the openstack compute model helps to combine the resources of different computers into on | 06:30 |
| Guest5952 | one single computer | 06:30 |
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| cmasseraf | that's not the idea of the cloud model... | 06:31 |
| cmasseraf | and basically there's no computing model that does it | 06:31 |
| cmasseraf | to combine resources you'll have to use parallel processing (data or task parallel) | 06:32 |
| Guest5952 | any help on parallel processing ? | 06:34 |
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| Guest5952 | so in cloud computing the maximum size of a VM is restricted to the maximum ram in ONE hardware node | 06:36 |
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| cmasseraf | there's always swap... but it's creeping slow... so yes it's limited by the ram of a node | 06:39 |
| Guest5952 | also the number of cores is restricted to the number of cores on the node. | 06:40 |
| cmasseraf | yup | 06:41 |
| Guest5952 | it will not be possible to use cores of various nodes into one VM right ? | 06:41 |
| cmasseraf | normally you can put more cores.... but it will most likely degrade performance instead of icresing it | 06:41 |
| Guest5952 | but it will still not compute across the network, it will just be on the same hardware node right ? | 06:42 |
| cmasseraf | the idead o cloud is the inverse is to one Server as many Pc's | 06:42 |
| cmasseraf | yes | 06:42 |
| Guest5952 | so cloud means to break the resources into much smaller units and sell smaller units right ? | 06:42 |
| cmasseraf | is to use resources on demand... | 06:44 |
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| Guest5952 | but the "on demand" doesnt mean to increase the size of the VM as and when you wish right ? It means launching new instances ASAP. | 06:46 |
| cmasseraf | yes | 06:46 |
| Guest5952 | I would still have to break the application to work on multiple servers | 06:46 |
| cmasseraf | and balancing load between them | 06:46 |
| cmasseraf | yes | 06:46 |
| Guest5952 | ok, you helped me a ton about the concept of cloud computing | 06:49 |
| Guest5952 | all this while i was thinking it can combine resources and make one big computing resource | 06:50 |
| Guest5952 | which can then be broken down | 06:50 |
| Guest5952 | but its not like that, its still restriced as per the hardware node | 06:50 |
| Guest5952 | This brings me to my next question | 06:51 |
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| Guest5952 | Is there any such software to actually COMBINE the resources of DIFFERENT hardware Nodes into one ? | 06:51 |
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| cmasseraf | in the way you want, there might even be some.. but the cost of maintaining a shared memory architecture over network is to big | 06:55 |
| cmasseraf | so you most likely will lose performance | 06:55 |
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| Guest5952 | will there be a special network requirement or gigabit will be sufficient ? | 06:56 |
| cmasseraf | I never used one to know | 06:56 |
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| cmasseraf | what do you want to execute that can't be adapted into messaging-passing style? | 06:58 |
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| Guest5952 | basically I want to combine four computers each with 16GB ram and Intel Xeons into one BIG Windows server 2008 R2 | 06:59 |
| cmasseraf | you won't be able to do it in low lever to install a windows server above it | 07:01 |
| cmasseraf | you'd need a specific OS designed for it | 07:01 |
| cmasseraf | basically it's a no-can't-do | 07:02 |
| Guest5952 | so the only way is to use a 4U motherboard right ? | 07:02 |
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| Guest5952 | cmasseraf, there is no way to combine software resources ? | 07:14 |
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| Guest5952 | sorry, I meant - Is there no way to combine the resources using a software over a 1000MBPS network ? | 07:14 |
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| cmasseraf | there's no way that I know of (exept for some academical OSés from the 90's) | 07:15 |
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| Guest5952 | thank you cmasseraf | 07:20 |
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| shaon | what does eucalyptus use for messaging service? rabbit queue or apache Qpid? or anything else? | 07:29 |
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| shaon | sorry, wrong window :( | 07:29 |
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| Razique | Hi friendz! | 08:02 |
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| livemoon | hi.Razique | 08:43 |
| livemoon | how to get 2011.3-0ubuntu4 | 08:45 |
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| livemoon | anyone here? | 09:02 |
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| Razique | hey livemoon | 09:12 |
| Razique | you can use ppa for that Diablo statble | 09:12 |
| ejat | im trying the devstack .. | 09:12 |
| ejat | how can i import existing vm into OS ? | 09:13 |
| ejat | or build new image ... | 09:13 |
| livemoon | Razique: I use git checkout stable version | 09:13 |
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| livemoon | but nova-volume cannot work on 11.10 | 09:13 |
| Razique | livemoon: why is that ? | 09:14 |
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| koolhead17 | hi all | 09:16 |
| koolhead17 | Razique, where did you disappear last day :( | 09:16 |
| livemoon | because 11.10 use tgt rather than iet | 09:17 |
| Razique | koolhead17: I was doing sport, then came later on irc | 09:17 |
| Razique | sorry :( | 09:17 |
| ejat | anyone can help me ? | 09:17 |
| Razique | koolhead17: how the workflow went , | 09:17 |
| koolhead17 | Razique, np. lets do it tonight :P | 09:17 |
| Razique | ejat: sure just ask :) | 09:17 |
| livemoon | it need 2011.3-0ubuntu6 | 09:17 |
| ejat | im trying the devstack .. | 09:17 |
| Razique | koolhead17: I saw u affected urself 2 bugs :) | 09:17 |
| ejat | how can i import existing vm into OS ? | 09:17 |
| koolhead17 | Razique, i assigned it to myself as wel :) | 09:18 |
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| livemoon | koolhead17: are you developer? | 09:18 |
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| Razique | ejat: what do u mean by importing> creating ? | 09:19 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon, no a openstack user :) | 09:19 |
| Razique | livemoon: don't think the ubuntu6 has been packageg | 09:19 |
| ejat | i already hv vm in the same OS machine .. | 09:19 |
| ejat | is it possible to import ? or need to create new image using the tools ? | 09:19 |
| ejat | instead of the demo tty-uec image | 09:20 |
| Razique | You have a VM into an hypervisor, and u'd like to install devstack on it ? | 09:20 |
| livemoon | Razique: I need source enough | 09:20 |
| livemoon | I install use "python setup.py" | 09:20 |
| koolhead17 | ejat, devstack works without any issue | 09:20 |
| ejat | yeah its work .. but can someone guide me next what should i do to have another images | 09:21 |
| Razique | livemoon: here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/2011.3-0ubuntu6.2 | 09:21 |
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| ejat | ? | 09:22 |
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| livemoon | Razique: all there files? | 09:24 |
| FloFri | good morning everyone. maybe someone online, who can help me with a strange openstack problem? | 09:24 |
| FloFri | i have installed openstack on an ubuntu 11.11 machine (also tried 11.04). everything works fine, but when i try to start an instance, the machine does not boot. it runs, but when i vnc to the instance, i only see the seabios-text | 09:25 |
| FloFri | the strangest thing is: from time to time the instance even succeeds to boot, but most of the time it doesn't | 09:27 |
| livemoon | Razique: how to patch it? | 09:27 |
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| Razique | livemoon: which version are running right now ? | 09:32 |
| Razique | FloFri: can we see nova-compute.log ? | 09:32 |
| Razique | can the full boot sequence (via euca-get-console-output) | 09:32 |
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| Satya | whats the admin password function while creating an instance! | 09:34 |
| Razique | Satya: ? which one ? | 09:34 |
| Razique | the instance one ? | 09:34 |
| Satya | yes | 09:34 |
| FloFri | at the moment, i reinstall unsing 10.04, maybe it works with that. but if it fails again, i will post the log | 09:35 |
| Satya | if we create a instance using nova boot it shows a admin password | 09:35 |
| Razique | Satya: which image are u using ? | 09:35 |
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| Satya | ubuntu maveric | 09:35 |
| Razique | Satya: doesn't seem the instance password | 09:35 |
| Razique | more like the server you are launching the instance FROM | 09:35 |
| Satya | is it for windows only? | 09:35 |
| Razique | Satya: not at all :) | 09:36 |
| Satya | then whats the function of that? | 09:36 |
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| Razique | is it the admin password of the server ? | 09:36 |
| Razique | Satya: the prompt itself asks for a password, just after "nova boot" ? | 09:37 |
| Razique | maybe sudo nova boot ? | 09:37 |
| Satya | no | 09:37 |
| Razique | Satya: that very weird :/ | 09:38 |
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| Satya | accessIPv4 | | | 09:38 |
| Razique | the only time you should be asked for a password, could be the case u don't inject ssh keys | 09:38 |
| Razique | then after a SSH to instance, you should be then asked to provide a password | 09:38 |
| Satya | ohh | 09:38 |
| Satya | so if i dont inject a ssh key thn it will ask me the password? | 09:39 |
| livemoon | Razique: 2011.3 | 09:39 |
| livemoon | Razique: now I use apt-get install nova-volume | 09:40 |
| livemoon | it also older version | 09:40 |
| Satya | Razique: whats the use of accessIPV4 ans access IPV6 | 09:42 |
| Razique | Satya: where do u see these lines ? | 09:42 |
| Satya | nova boot | 09:42 |
| Razique | Satya: yah, if you don't inject SSH keys into the instance | 09:42 |
| Razique | when u'll want to connect to it , since u don't have the keys, u'll need to provide a password | 09:43 |
| Razique | livemoon: try to force the version | 09:43 |
| Satya | ok | 09:43 |
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| Razique | like aptitude install nova-volume=$version | 09:43 |
| livemoon | how to? | 09:43 |
| Satya | i'm using diablo stable without injecting key it says publickey denied | 09:43 |
| Razique | Satya: that means the instances supports only per-key connection :) | 09:44 |
| Razique | is it the official canonical image ? | 09:44 |
| Razique | uec.canonical.com ? | 09:44 |
| Satya | thn it should be a defect i guess | 09:44 |
| Razique | nope :) if u use official image, the user is "ubuntu" not root | 09:45 |
| Razique | trey ssh -i $path_to_key ubuntu@instance_ip | 09:45 |
| Razique | try* | 09:45 |
| Satya | key login works fine | 09:45 |
| Satya | i want to figureout whats the adminpasswd is about | 09:46 |
| Satya | why its there | 09:46 |
| Razique | that is a wanted behaviour for cloud images | 09:46 |
| Satya | where its used | 09:46 |
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| Razique | we suppose the user provides it's public key which would be injected at boot | 09:46 |
| Razique | that avoid the whole password stiff | 09:46 |
| Razique | stuffs | 09:46 |
| Satya | then why adminpassword is thre | 09:47 |
| Satya | there | 09:47 |
| Razique | Satya: I don't understand when exactly this admin password appears ? | 09:47 |
| Satya | while doing a nova boot (creating an instance) | 09:47 |
| Satya | it shows the admin password | 09:47 |
| Satya | | adminPass | y7Mnhi4q72zojnJb | 09:47 |
| Razique | ahhhh ok | 09:48 |
| Satya | so whats the use of the | 09:48 |
| Razique | let me look at the code | 09:48 |
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| Razique | it's the root password obviously | 09:51 |
| Razique | try this | 09:51 |
| Razique | connect to instance | 09:51 |
| Razique | update sshd_config, enable the password authentication | 09:51 |
| Razique | and try to login via ubuntu, but don't send the key | 09:52 |
| Razique | livemoon: aptitude install nova-volume=2011.3-0ubuntu6.2 | 09:54 |
| Razique | does that work ? | 09:54 |
| livemoon | yes | 09:54 |
| livemoon | I installint | 09:54 |
| livemoon | but | 09:55 |
| livemoon | I install it from git before, now nova-volume still use older version's coding | 09:55 |
| Satya | razique permit rootlogin is yes | 09:56 |
| Satya | still same problem | 09:56 |
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| Razique | have u enabled the authentication via password ? | 09:57 |
| Razique | PasswordAuthentication yes | 09:57 |
| Razique | then service sshd restart | 09:57 |
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| Razique | livemoon: ok so try to remove nova-volume | 09:59 |
| Razique | and reinstall it from github | 09:59 |
| Razique | aptitude remove --purge nova-volume | 09:59 |
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| Satya | Razique: its asking for password but while passing the adminpass in the password feild it fails with permission denied :( | 10:02 |
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| Satya | tried with root@<IP> and ubuntu@<IP> | 10:03 |
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| Razique | ok i'll see how it get that password | 10:05 |
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| Razique | @utils.arg('--password', dest='password', metavar='<password>', default=False, | 10:06 |
| Razique | help="Set the provided password on the rebuild instance.") | 10:06 |
| larissa | Razique: Error: "utils.arg('--password'," is not a valid command. | 10:06 |
| Razique | Satya "Set the provided password on the rebuild instance."" | 10:07 |
| Razique | so try a nova rebuild | 10:07 |
| Razique | it should ask for a pass | 10:07 |
| Razique | try to use it then | 10:07 |
| Satya | yes its a optional in rebuild | 10:09 |
| Razique | so that's how that adminPass is used to | 10:09 |
| Satya | I guess no | 10:09 |
| Satya | as rebuild we can provide a password | 10:10 |
| Razique | u think it could be something else ? | 10:10 |
| Satya | yes | 10:10 |
| Razique | that's the only reference I've found into the novaclient code | 10:10 |
| Satya | still my question is whats the use of the password which is generated by nova boot | 10:10 |
| Satya | nova rebuild [--password <password>] <server> <image> | 10:11 |
| Razique | Satya: here https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient/blob/master/novaclient/v1_1/servers.py | 10:11 |
| Razique | Satya: which version are u using ? | 10:11 |
| Satya | client 2.6.7 | 10:12 |
| Satya | if we pass the password in the rebuild option its just update the password in adminpass feild | 10:13 |
| Razique | well seen, I've just tried | 10:14 |
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| livemoon | Razique:thanks | 10:17 |
| Razique | did it work ? | 10:17 |
| livemoon | now I have used stable as my production | 10:17 |
| livemoon | yes | 10:17 |
| livemoon | tomorrow I am ready to start swift | 10:18 |
| Satya | def change_password(self, server, password): | 10:18 |
| livemoon | Razique: have you test block migration? | 10:18 |
| Satya | self._action("changePassword", server, {"adminPass": password}) | 10:18 |
| Razique | Satya: ah https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient/issues/113 | 10:18 |
| Razique | looks like i was right :p | 10:19 |
| Razique | that adminPass is used in order to do admin operations on servers | 10:19 |
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| Razique | we lost livemoon :( | 10:19 |
| koolhead17 | he will be back am sure :) | 10:20 |
| Razique | he better be if he doesn't want us kick his ass | 10:20 |
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| Satya | Razique: does it means rescue needs a adminpass? | 10:22 |
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| Satya | Razique: Admin operations on server!!! but every instance generates a different password | 10:25 |
| Razique | Satya: I'd say that password works per instance then | 10:26 |
| Razique | not per tenant | 10:26 |
| Razique | not clever I agree :) | 10:26 |
| Razique | Satya: rescue / rebuild should require that password | 10:26 |
| Razique | if no, then, same question as urs, what would be the point of that pass then :p | 10:26 |
| Razique | plus I don't know where it's stored | 10:26 |
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| FloFri | Razique: ok, still no success. Have installed 11.11 again. Here is the nova-compute.log of the instance start http://pastebin.com/cRkdGgjV | 10:32 |
| FloFri | i mean 11.10 of course ^^ | 10:32 |
| Razique | looks like the instance is now up | 10:34 |
| Razique | :) | 10:34 |
| Razique | does the security group allows icmp + ssh ? | 10:34 |
| FloFri | the problem is not, that the instance does not start, it does. but it seems to hang in the seabios | 10:35 |
| FloFri | i vnc to the instance and all in see is the seabios-string | 10:35 |
| Razique | is it possible to obtain the whole ouput of euca-get-console-ouput ? | 10:35 |
| Razique | and where did u get the image from ? | 10:36 |
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| Razique | has it been prepared for the cloud ? | 10:36 |
| FloFri | its an ubuntu cloud image | 10:36 |
| Razique | ok good | 10:36 |
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| FloFri | Razique: thanks for the hint with euca-get-console-ouput, all the time i thaught, it hangs in the bootloader, but now i see, it hangs in the kernel, because of a network problem. that should be possible to fix, thank you! | 10:44 |
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| Razique | FloFri: looks likes it a metadata retrieval issue innit ? | 10:45 |
| Razique | of the instance cannot get it's ip from dnsmasq | 10:45 |
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| FloFri | as of now, tha problem should be, that i have no network defined ^^ | 10:46 |
| Razique | haha | 10:47 |
| Razique | nova-manage network list ? | 10:47 |
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| Satya | Razique Thanks and sorry for bugging u :) | 10:49 |
| Razique | Satya: hehe no problem at all | 10:49 |
| Razique | we both had our answer here :) | 10:49 |
| Satya | i have some more doubts | 10:50 |
| Satya | can i go ahade? | 10:50 |
| Razique | about what ? | 10:50 |
| Razique | totally | 10:50 |
| Satya | in nova boot it shows accessipv4 and accessipv6 whats the use of that | 10:50 |
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| Razique | if you use ipv6 as a network | 10:51 |
| Razique | the instance will have two adresses ; an ipv4 one and a ipv6 one | 10:51 |
| Razique | that suppose u have an ipv6 network defined though :) | 10:51 |
| Satya | then accessipv4 should list out the public ip of the instance am i right? | 10:51 |
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| Satya | or private ip | 10:52 |
| Satya | but all the ips are listed under null network | 10:53 |
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| FloFri | Razique: ok, now no more network errors, but the kernel does not continue. last message: no instance data found in start-local | 10:55 |
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| Razique | Satya well technically it won't be, the public one will be the "floating" one | 10:58 |
| Razique | FloFri: ok now it's a metadata retrieval issue | 10:58 |
| Razique | the instance tries to inject the SSH keys, but the server doesn't answer | 10:59 |
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| Razique | check the iptables rules, and make sure u have a prerouting rule 169.254.169.254:80 -> $nova_api:8774 | 10:59 |
| Razique | lunch time | 11:00 |
| Razique | be back in 2 hours tops guys | 11:00 |
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| Razique | Satya: basically, the ips are the one u use in order to connect to the instance | 11:00 |
| FloFri | ok, thank you for the moment | 11:00 |
| Razique | in order to make the instance reacheable from the internnet, assign it a floating ip | 11:00 |
| Razique | FloFri: sure, good luck :) | 11:00 |
| Satya | yes | 11:01 |
| Satya | true | 11:01 |
| Satya | thn whst should be accessipv4 | 11:01 |
| Satya | is it private or public ip? | 11:01 |
| Satya | if its any of these then y public and private ips are listed under null network | 11:02 |
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| tungvs | I've managed to run an instance of openstack image (ubuntu10.10, in detail). The instance is at running state, and is assigned an IP. But I can't ssh to the IP, nor ping it. euca-get-console-output <instance_id> show nothing but datetime. How can I troubleshoot this situation (pre-boot time problems) ? | 11:31 |
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| shaon | tungvs, did you enable icmp for all instances? | 11:35 |
| tungvs | shaon: maybe I didn't, need to check it again. | 11:35 |
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| tungvs | shaon, I tried enable both icmp & ssh, still no luck. I think there're some troubles at boot time so the instance cannot fully bootup. But without any access to the console, I can't determine what it is. Any idea ? | 11:44 |
| shaon | tungvs, try log | 11:45 |
| Satya | tungvs: whats the euca-get-console output | 11:47 |
| Satya | is it having the keys? | 11:47 |
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| tungvs | I'm looking in the log. euca-get-console outputs just instance id and date time, nothing more. | 11:48 |
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| Satya | so it means instance is not bootup properly | 11:50 |
| Satya | whats the euca-authorize command used to enable icmp | 11:50 |
| Satya | tungvs: is nova list showing the instance is active? | 11:51 |
| tungvs | yes, it is in running state | 11:54 |
| Satya | whats the euca-authorize commands used? | 11:55 |
| tungvs | euca-authorize -P icmp -t -1:-1 default | 11:55 |
| tungvs | euca-authorize -P ssh -t -1:-1 default | 11:55 |
| tungvs | I've found them on openstack document site | 11:55 |
| Satya | use euca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default | 11:56 |
| Satya | for ssh | 11:56 |
| Satya | euca-authorize -P icmp -t -1:-1 default | 11:57 |
| Satya | for ping | 11:57 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891040 in swift "swift-proxy service does not start on boot when using port 443" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891040 | 11:57 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891082 in openstack-manuals "Live migration doc could benefit from glusterFS connector arrival !" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891082 | 11:57 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891093 in keystone "Missing files from tarball due to incomplete MANIFEST.in" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891093 | 11:57 |
| tungvs | euca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default | 11:57 |
| tungvs | sorry, that's what I've typed | 11:57 |
| Satya | the instance is in default group? | 11:58 |
| tungvs | I'm not sure, how can I tell ? | 11:58 |
| Satya | euca-describe-instace | 11:59 |
| Satya | 1 more question | 11:59 |
| Satya | have you associated a floating ip to the instace? | 11:59 |
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| tungvs | not yet, I've used private IP | 12:00 |
| tungvs | checked, it's in default group | 12:01 |
| Satya | please allocate a floating ip then associate to the instance | 12:01 |
| tungvs | ok then | 12:01 |
| Satya | thats the problem u r not able to ping or ssh | 12:01 |
| tungvs | so I cannot use the private IP to communicate with the instance ? | 12:01 |
| Satya | no | 12:02 |
| tungvs | even I'm ssh or ping it from the server ? | 12:02 |
| Satya | only instance to instance within a project | 12:02 |
| tungvs | ok, let me try it first | 12:02 |
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| Satya | tungvs: is it worked? | 12:04 |
| tungvs | no, it didn't work | 12:07 |
| tungvs | is there any way to get the console messages when the instance boot up ? | 12:09 |
| Satya | euca-get-console-output | 12:11 |
| tungvs | the command not work in this case, it return instance id and date_time always | 12:11 |
| Satya | for all instance? | 12:12 |
| Satya | or for only a singhe 1 | 12:12 |
| tungvs | I've just started 1 instance | 12:12 |
| Satya | might be instance is not bootup properly | 12:12 |
| Satya | please try to create another instace allocate ip thn associate ip and try | 12:13 |
| tungvs | ok then | 12:13 |
| tungvs | one more question about the feature | 12:13 |
| tungvs | have openstack got the high availability feature for instances ? | 12:13 |
| Satya | i am not sure able it | 12:14 |
| Satya | if volume is there then it should be | 12:14 |
| tungvs | I haven't found it in the document yet. | 12:14 |
| tungvs | thanks guys. | 12:14 |
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| koolhead17 | hugokuo, around | 12:45 |
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| livemoon | :) | 12:54 |
| koolhead17 | aah livemoon wassup :P | 12:55 |
| livemoon | koolhead17: :) | 12:55 |
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| Razique | back | 13:41 |
| Razique | livemoon: here he is :) | 13:41 |
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| chokesmaster | hello, is anyone on here? | 14:14 |
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| Razique | yah | 14:21 |
| Razique | $ | 14:21 |
| chokesmaster | hi | 14:21 |
| chokesmaster | i have some question about how openstack is installed | 14:22 |
| chokesmaster | first is it running on centos? | 14:22 |
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| sloop | chokesmaster, have you already installed openstack? | 14:25 |
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| chokesmaster | sloop, no i never installed this | 14:39 |
| sloop | chokesmaster, most people run it on ubuntu, but you don't have to. try reading the documentation. | 14:39 |
| Razique | anyone have been able to run live migration with kvm ? | 14:40 |
| chokesmaster | the installation guide is with ubuntu :/ | 14:40 |
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| chokesmaster | well i don't think this will be a good solution for me as my hosting provider install xen on centos only :( | 14:42 |
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| Daviey | ls | 14:46 |
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| Razique | everytime I try to migrate accross hosts a VM I've the following exception : http://paste.openstack.org/show/3370/ | 15:14 |
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| Micric | Anyone able to offer a little advice on running multiple compute servers | 15:20 |
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| vidd | what kind of advice? | 15:20 |
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| Micric | Hey Vidd, I have two servers running, though i cannot get teh second server, running compute and network, to pick up an instance | 15:21 |
| vidd | Micric, are they both in sinc? | 15:21 |
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| Micric | both sync's | 15:21 |
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| vidd | all happy faces? | 15:22 |
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| Micric | all happy smiley faces | 15:22 |
| vidd | both on the same availability zone? | 15:22 |
| shaon | Hey Razique, how did you migration go last day? | 15:23 |
| Razique | shaon: perfectly | 15:23 |
| Razique | 10 minutes max of services cut | 15:23 |
| shaon | Razique: cool :) | 15:23 |
| koolhead17 | can someone help me in telling what modification in pip-requires of horizon i need to do if am running my operation behind proxy | 15:23 |
| Micric | same zone | 15:24 |
| vidd | Micric, does the instance launch? | 15:24 |
| Micric | Remains pending | 15:24 |
| Micric | shows the same zone but does not change the host from none | 15:25 |
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| vidd | are you launching via horizon/dashboard, novaclient, or euca command ? | 15:26 |
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| Micric | Horizon/Dashboard | 15:27 |
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| vidd | Micric, check on command line to see if the instance is actually running and horizon just isnt reporting it properly | 15:28 |
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| Micric | It shows that the instance is pending under the EUCA tools | 15:29 |
| vidd | and the log files say....? | 15:29 |
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| Micric | 2011-11-16 15:30:28,480 DEBUG nova.utils [-] Attempting to grab semaphore "get_dhcp" for method "_get_dhcp_ip"... from (pid=4593) inner /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/utils.py:675 | 15:31 |
| Micric | The compute just shows "Updating host status" | 15:31 |
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| vidd | Micric, so, your instance is not getting a private ip | 15:32 |
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| Micric | No | 15:32 |
| vidd | that is going to stop it from loading | 15:33 |
| Micric | I cannot see why it is not working though | 15:34 |
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| Micric | They both point to the same DB at the backend | 15:34 |
| vidd | there are no flat ip addresses getting assigned | 15:34 |
| Micric | The other server starts them up and assigns the IP's and passes to the "running" state | 15:34 |
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| vidd | you said you have networking on both machines? | 15:35 |
| Micric | yes | 15:35 |
| koolhead17 | Razique, around | 15:35 |
| vidd | do you have the "multi-host" flag set in nova.conf? | 15:35 |
| Micric | Though the beginners guide says you don't install it and the admin guide says you need to | 15:35 |
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| Micric | No...well spotted | 15:36 |
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| Razique | koolhead17: yup, I've been able to run a migration at least =D | 15:37 |
| vidd | its a process =] | 15:37 |
| koolhead17 | Razique, hi5 | 15:37 |
| koolhead17 | :P | 15:37 |
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| vidd | i do basic troubleshooting over the phone for a living =] | 15:37 |
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| Micric | As do I. Spirit crushing work some days | 15:38 |
| vidd | only if your the one doing the crushing is it fun =] | 15:39 |
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| Micric | Ahh, you are more of a Dogbert | 15:39 |
| vidd | always have to ask the "do you have electricity" question =] | 15:40 |
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| vidd | Micric, more like catbert =] | 15:40 |
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| Micric | So you don't find the money appealing then | 15:41 |
| vidd | no...i can make more elsewhere but i LIKE the work =] | 15:41 |
| Micric | OK, you win. What is the flag I am looking for? | 15:42 |
| Razique | oohoho block migration works ! | 15:42 |
| vidd | --multi-host= | 15:42 |
| vidd | its either "True" or "1" | 15:43 |
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| vidd | i dont use it personally | 15:43 |
| vidd | i think its "1" but dont quote me | 15:44 |
| vidd | [and dont point the fire department in my direction either] | 15:44 |
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| Micric | It was him :p | 15:45 |
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| Micric | OK, with the flag added......no change | 15:48 |
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| vidd | did you restart all services on both machines? | 15:48 |
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| Micric | yes | 15:49 |
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| vidd | did you kill existing instances and attempt to load a new one? | 15:49 |
| Micric | Changed from True to 1, restarted the services and tried another group of instances | 15:49 |
| Micric | yes every time I made a change the instances were terminatted | 15:49 |
| vidd | Micric, ok...im out of ideas | 15:49 |
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| Micric | OK, thanks anyway | 15:50 |
| vidd | did you get your stuff from git Kiall 's ppa's or someplace else? | 15:50 |
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| * Micric fetches his "HELP ME" sign and continues touting for trade | 15:50 | |
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| Micric | 11.10 Repositories | 15:51 |
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| Micric | Ubuntu that is | 15:51 |
| vidd | you have GOT to be kidding me | 15:51 |
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| Micric | ... | 15:51 |
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| vidd | so you used stock repos and got everything to work on one server? | 15:52 |
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| Micric | Yeah | 15:52 |
| Micric | Had to patch one file | 15:52 |
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| vidd | how much duct tape, bailing wire, aluminum foil, and chewing gum did THAT take? | 15:53 |
| Micric | One wig and a bit of patience | 15:53 |
| vidd | i know hospitals with less pacients | 15:53 |
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| Micric | The manager.py is out of date so the IP stack did not work, but once I picked up the patch from github I had it running | 15:54 |
| Micric | Piece of .... | 15:55 |
| Micric | But only on 11.10, cannot get anything to work on 11.04 backward | 15:55 |
| vidd | Micric, i was under the impression that more than just the manager.py was broken | 15:56 |
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| vidd | does your vnc work? | 15:57 |
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| Micric | vnc?? I only used that for the image creation | 15:57 |
| Micric | Not using a VPN | 15:57 |
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| Micric | VLAN's......well, I have access on VLAN100 to the running instances | 15:57 |
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| vidd | Micric, vpn is also useful for ...say...your instance hangs waiting for a command to be past to it | 15:58 |
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| Micric | Cannot say I have had that problem yet..have spawned some 1000 servers so far. Only issue found so that I cannot get any idea on is the multi compute issue I am having now | 15:59 |
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| vidd | Micric, so try this: take down the redundant networking and turn off multi-host | 16:00 |
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| vidd | this will let you know if its a newtorking conflic | 16:01 |
| Micric | Oh, yeah the servers are operating on a completly clean IP stack on a completely empty group of switches | 16:01 |
| Micric | The can be no IP clashes, or network hardware clashes | 16:02 |
| vidd | "internal to Openstack" | 16:02 |
| Micric | You may have to be a little more specific | 16:02 |
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| vidd | in other words make sure nova-network on compute node is not conflicting with nova-network on controler node | 16:03 |
| Micric | OK | 16:03 |
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| Micric | With the second nova-network service disabled, there is no change. | 16:07 |
| vidd | Micric, have you ever had the second compute node working? | 16:08 |
| Micric | no | 16:08 |
| vidd | paste-bin me its nova.conf | 16:08 |
| Micric | I have never managed to any instances to pass over. | 16:08 |
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| Micric | http://pastebin.com/nTAkA4x9 | 16:09 |
| vidd | there is some stuff missing here | 16:11 |
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| vidd | --host_ip | 16:11 |
| vidd | --my_ip | 16:11 |
| vidd | your remote host has no idea where the controller is =] | 16:11 |
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| Micric | Ahh, but the documentation reads that it only actually needs to know where the rabbitMQ server is.....like I believe the docs anymore | 16:12 |
| vidd | Micric, look here: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/reference-for-flags-in-nova-conf.html for the appropriate flags | 16:12 |
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| annegentle | Micric: let us know the page that gave you that impression and we can fix it | 16:13 |
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| Micric | Humor me, both the my_ip and host flag to refer to the local server, or am I misunderstanding | 16:19 |
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| Micric | Annegentle, I will when I remember where I saw it and can verify I am not being an idiot. | 16:20 |
| annegentle | Micric: I'm sure you're not being an idiot :) | 16:22 |
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| Razique | Micric: hehe | 16:22 |
| annegentle | Micric: it's a big corpus :) | 16:22 |
| Micric | I promise you, I have stared at these documents for so long I am not sure where to even begin looking | 16:22 |
| Razique | Micric: if you find out, don't hesitate to open a bug | 16:23 |
| Razique | lemmings here are waiting for that | 16:23 |
| annegentle | Razique: hee hee | 16:23 |
| jdg | Does anybody have a recommendation for a first time multi-node install? There are multiple options/deployment tools, any of them have specific strengths? | 16:23 |
| annegentle | Micric: you might also like the docs.openstack.org/trunk docs as they are the freshest | 16:23 |
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| annegentle | jdg: what's your use case? Demo or production? | 16:24 |
| jdg | demo | 16:24 |
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| jdg | Demo with iscsi block device attach | 16:24 |
| annegentle | jdg: okay. also Ubuntu's ok? | 16:25 |
| jdg | annegentle: Oh yes, absolutely. | 16:25 |
| jdg | annegentle: I have 5 physical nodes to utilize | 16:25 |
| jdg | My goal was one cluster controller and 4 compute nodes | 16:26 |
| annegentle | jdg: I haven't done it myself but crowbar probably fits the bill. https://github.com/dellcloudedge/crowbar | 16:26 |
| * Micric bangs head on wall | 16:26 | |
| annegentle | jdg: might be a sledgehammer when you need just a hammer, though. | 16:26 |
| Micric | "Your installation can run any nova- services anywhere, so long as the service can access nova.conf so it knows where the rabbitmq server is installed" I did mis-read it. | 16:26 |
| jdg | annegentle: Thanks for the input, it's one of the tools on the list. That or dodai | 16:27 |
| Razique | =D | 16:27 |
| Razique | the devstack should do it though | 16:27 |
| annegentle | jdg: oh yeah, Dodai just sent me their docs, so yeah | 16:27 |
| jdg | annegentle: was leaning that direction because of the "sledge-hammer but only need a hammer right now" :) | 16:27 |
| annegentle | Razique: they've got a space ready for mulit-node on devstack :) | 16:28 |
| jdg | devstack was great on my VM but it looks like multi-node physical is still in the works. | 16:28 |
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| Razique | jdg: yah true, the thing is multi node networks always implies network differences | 16:29 |
| Razique | we need to update the doc | 16:29 |
| Razique | for instances the bridges, vlan, etc… depend everytime on different setup | 16:30 |
| Micric | Am I missing th point here but, the trunk link for the Openstack Begginer guide points to Cactus. Surely the Diablo docs would be the better option | 16:30 |
| Razique | need to figure out a way to explain the subtilies, so an abstract doc should do it | 16:30 |
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| annegentle | Micric: ah good find. I need to fix that. They made 2 branches but I bet Jenkins needs reconfiguring of the automatic build. | 16:30 |
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| annegentle | jdg: don't know if it helps you get going with Dodai, but here's the updated docs, waiting for another reviewer https://review.openstack.org/#patch,sidebyside,1607,1,doc/src/docbkx/openstack-compute-admin/computeautomation.xml | 16:31 |
| annegentle | Razique: maybe you can take a look ^^ | 16:31 |
| jdg | annegentle: It will be helpful regardless of isntall tools etc. Thank you!! | 16:32 |
| Razique | oh yah great doc, i've started to read it yesterday :) | 16:32 |
| Razique | Puppet is a pertient tool here | 16:32 |
| annegentle | Razique: ok, cool | 16:32 |
| Razique | arf so much pain with review system =D | 16:33 |
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| jdg | Razique: Yes, maybe so. This is first time install/setup though so I'm trying to find the "easiest/quickest" path for the first go around. | 16:33 |
| Razique | jdg: here is the way I do everytime I integrate a new node | 16:34 |
| Razique | run a complete install for the "controller" | 16:34 |
| Razique | then for everynode; install nova-compte ; update nova-conf | 16:34 |
| Razique | and voila | 16:34 |
| jdg | Razique: Really, that sounds too easy. :) | 16:34 |
| Razique | that's why you could go for a single-node install | 16:34 |
| jdg | I've got the controller set up | 16:35 |
| Razique | and manually install compute-node and copy the nova.conf | 16:35 |
| Razique | make sure you update the interfaces into the conf and taht's it | 16:35 |
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| Razique | the node should by itself register to the scheduler | 16:35 |
| jdg | Razique: Thanks, I think I'll give that a shot. | 16:35 |
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| Razique | ok :) integrated a new node, is very easy actually :) | 16:36 |
| Razique | I don't say then make instance run is as easy but… :p | 16:36 |
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| jdg | Razique: LOL... nice disclaimer | 16:36 |
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| Razique | hehe to be honnest, having a first setup running is the hardest part | 16:38 |
| Razique | integrating new nodes is the extremely easy | 16:38 |
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| Razique | that block migration feature is awesome guys | 16:39 |
| Razique | a new step to HA | 16:39 |
| vidd | isnt rabbitmq-server supposed to create a /etc/rabbitmq/ config file? | 16:40 |
| Razique | vidd: yah it does | 16:40 |
| vidd | =\ i dont have one | 16:40 |
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| Razique | vidd: ubuntu ? | 16:41 |
| Razique | installed from repos or manually ? | 16:41 |
| vidd | ubuntu repo | 16:41 |
| Razique | perfect | 16:41 |
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| Micric | 5 dyas spent trying to work out why my 2nd node canno run an instance. I am not really any the wiser as I know why but I have no idea how to fix. | 16:42 |
| Razique | dpkg -i --force-confmiss rabbitmq-server | 16:42 |
| Razique | Micric: what's the status now :) | 16:42 |
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| Micric | The host still do not run on the second node | 16:42 |
| kbringard | what does nova-manage service list show? | 16:43 |
| Micric | Vidd tells me it is due to the fact the the second node cannot pass over an IP to the instance | 16:43 |
| jdg | Razique: Ahhh.... so close!! "Can't connect to MySQL server" | 16:43 |
| kbringard | is there a :-) by the second compute node? | 16:43 |
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| Micric | yes | 16:44 |
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| Micric | I have smileys all round | 16:44 |
| Razique | smileys are good | 16:44 |
| Razique | hey kbringard :) | 16:44 |
| kbringard | hey Razique | 16:45 |
| Micric | Smileys are reassuring | 16:45 |
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| Razique | what's up kbringard ? | 16:45 |
| kbringard | not a whole lot | 16:45 |
| kbringard | working on getting crowbar going to manage deploys | 16:45 |
| Razique | Micric: beware, they only indicate time sync I've figured | 16:45 |
| Razique | in fact you can have nodes registered with a XXX | 16:45 |
| kbringard | yea, but it means that the node is checking in | 16:45 |
| kbringard | and can communicate with the controller | 16:45 |
| Razique | yah totally | 16:45 |
| kbringard | which is a good sign | 16:45 |
| Razique | you are right | 16:46 |
| Micric | It tells me that rabbitMQ is actually accepting requests | 16:46 |
| kbringard | Micric: do you get any errors when you're trying to launch instances? | 16:46 |
| kbringard | do they get stuck in scheduling, networking...? | 16:46 |
| Micric | Nope, the second node stops waiting on DHCP | 16:46 |
| Razique | kbringard: I've been able to run a block migration accross two nodes =D | 16:46 |
| Razique | took me time though :/ | 16:46 |
| kbringard | oh, so it launches but it just hangs trying to get an IP? | 16:46 |
| Micric | yes | 16:46 |
| Razique | vidd: did the dpkg -i work ? | 16:46 |
| kbringard | Razique: that's awesome | 16:47 |
| vidd | Razique, no | 16:47 |
| Razique | vidd: does the service runs , | 16:47 |
| Razique | ?* | 16:47 |
| Razique | Micric: which network mode ? | 16:47 |
| kbringard | if the instance is launching but just not getting DHCP, that's… interesting, but good | 16:47 |
| vidd | yes.... | 16:47 |
| vidd | but i dont want to use the default username and password | 16:47 |
| Razique | vidd: ps axl | grep rabbi | 16:47 |
| kbringard | it means the nova components are mostly orchestrating correctly | 16:47 |
| Razique | rabbit* ; or lsof | grep rabbit | 16:47 |
| kbringard | do you see any errors in the nova-compute log on the compute node? | 16:48 |
| Micric | VLAN | 16:48 |
| kbringard | it could be that it's not bringing up the bridge correctly | 16:48 |
| kbringard | or vlan tagging properly | 16:48 |
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| kbringard | or, are your switches passing tagged traffic properly? | 16:48 |
| Razique | +1 | 16:48 |
| Razique | Micric: run brctl showbr and cat /proc/net/vlan/config on the node | 16:49 |
| Razique | and see if the bridge (default, br100) is up, and if a vlan is created on it | 16:49 |
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| kbringard | nodes on the controller will just arp internally so it'll work, but if your switches are dropping the tagged packets then a second node won't make it over to your controller, which is where the DHCP server lives | 16:49 |
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| Micric | well, well, well on the second node the vlan is not up | 16:51 |
| Micric | on the primary node I have the VLAN | 16:51 |
| Razique | ok that means two things | 16:52 |
| Razique | 1 - vlan package is not installed ; 2- the specified interface doesn't exist/ accept vlan | 16:52 |
| Razique | check /var/log/nova-compute.log | 16:52 |
| Razique | and into nova.conf --vlan_interface flag | 16:52 |
| Micric | Hmm, the virbr0 exists, so I can see vlan is installed | 16:53 |
| kbringard | virbr0 is created by libvirt | 16:53 |
| Razique | mmm not so sure; | 16:53 |
| kbringard | it doesn't imply vlan | 16:53 |
| Razique | check /proc/net/vlan/config | 16:53 |
| Razique | +1# | 16:53 |
| kbringard | yea, what Razique said | 16:53 |
| kbringard | about the vlan/config | 16:54 |
| Razique | thus you make sure the vlan is up on the node | 16:54 |
| Micric | kbringard, I see, so I just have to say yes | 16:54 |
| kbringard | I think you also need to make sure the bridge_interface is correct in the DB | 16:54 |
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| kbringard | I believe you specify it when you do nova-manage network create | 16:54 |
| kbringard | but if you didn't you may need to set it manually | 16:54 |
| kbringard | and also check to see what VLAN tags the networks created for nova are getting | 16:55 |
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| Razique | kbringard: i've figured out that in diablo | 16:55 |
| Micric | OK, /prc/net/vlan/ does not exist though I can verify that vlan IS installed | 16:55 |
| Micric | thanks to apt | 16:55 |
| Razique | if you explicitely set the bridge_interface into the datase, you won't be able to run multi-nodes setup with different interfaces | 16:55 |
| kbringard | I think it gets created the first time you do a vconfig | 16:55 |
| kbringard | Razique: ah, good to know | 16:56 |
| Razique | kbringard: the workaround, is to leave bridge_interface to null | 16:56 |
| kbringard | so what's in the DB overrides whats in the nova.conf? | 16:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891244 in nova "No downgrade function for 057 migration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891244 | 16:56 |
| Razique | and for every nova.conf set --bridge_interface=ethX | 16:56 |
| kbringard | but if you leave it null in the DB it'll use what's in the nova.conf? | 16:56 |
| kbringard | that's good to know | 16:56 |
| Razique | here for instances i've eth2, sometimes eth1 | 16:56 |
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| vidd | does anyone have a "standard" rabbit conf file? | 16:56 |
| kbringard | I've taken great care to setup my udev stuff to make sure my NIC aliases are consistent across all my hardware | 16:57 |
| Razique | nope, weird, if it's not null into the databse, you hit the "interface doesn't exist" | 16:57 |
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| Razique | that means nova-network doesn't use the flag into nova.conf | 16:57 |
| kbringard | so eth0 is the same physically connected interface on every machine I own | 16:57 |
| Razique | vidd: i've the one when i installed rabbitmq-server | 16:57 |
| Micric | nice, the nova.conf links it to br100 with no hardset link anywhere else | 16:58 |
| Razique | kbringard: good, here it's very heterogeneous | 16:58 |
| vidd | Razique, you did not change it? can you paste-bin it for me? | 16:58 |
| Razique | (dunno if it's the correct spelling =D ) | 16:58 |
| Razique | vidd: sure | 16:58 |
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| Razique | mmm which one in fact :p | 16:59 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard, supp | 16:59 |
| kbringard | hey koolhead17 | 16:59 |
| kbringard | how are you? | 16:59 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard, am fighting a bit :) | 16:59 |
| vidd | Razique, currently, my /etc/rabbitmg/ folder is empty | 17:00 |
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| Razique | vidd: in fact, so does mine | 17:00 |
| Razique | sorry | 17:00 |
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| vidd | ok...so how/where do i set username/password info? | 17:00 |
| Razique | vidd: conf is in var/lib/rabbitmq/mnesia/rabbit | 17:00 |
| vidd | ah | 17:01 |
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| Razique | mmm vidd no i'm wrong http://www.rabbitmq.com/configure.html | 17:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891246 in quantum "The Makefile for building the openvswitch plugin agent tarball no longer works" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891246 | 17:01 |
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| Razique | let me check the startup script | 17:02 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard, how have you been | 17:04 |
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| kbringard | busy, but mostly well | 17:04 |
| kbringard | my wife just brought me a pumpkin scone and a chai | 17:05 |
| kbringard | I'm in heaven | 17:05 |
| Razique | vidd: I think you are right, it's like rabbit doesn't use any conf file | 17:05 |
| Razique | weird | 17:05 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #891247 in swift "bad accept header causes 503" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891247 | 17:05 |
| vidd | The location of these files is distribution-specific. By default, they are not created, but expect to be located in the following places on each platform: | 17:06 |
| Razique | yah :/ | 17:08 |
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| Razique | http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/11/can-eucalyptus-compete-with-op.php | 17:10 |
| swill | i have a working version of swift that i can connect to via curl and with swift -A. i included the swift3 middleware and I am trying to connect with boto. what port should i be using to connect with boto. swift port (8080), keystone service port (5000) or keystone admin port (35357)? | 17:11 |
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| Razique | keystone service port i'd say | 17:12 |
| Razique | I mean if you intend to use it | 17:12 |
| Razique | otherwise swift port | 17:12 |
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| vidd | Razique, rabbitmqctl change_password guest $RABBIT_PASSWORD | 17:13 |
| swill | Razique: i am not sure hwat you mean by 'intend to use it'. the only doc i have found on this is: http://swift.openstack.org/misc.html#module-swift.common.middleware.swift3 | 17:14 |
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| chrism_ | hola | 17:15 |
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| chrism_ | So I did the cactus->Diablo upgrade via aptitude | 17:16 |
| chrism_ | anyone happen to know how to fix the "vlans blowing up" part of that process? | 17:16 |
| chrism_ | heh | 17:16 |
| kbringard | I think Razique has done Cactus -> Diablo migrations, he may be able to help | 17:17 |
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| Razique | chrism_: how did u run the upgrade , | 17:17 |
| chrism_ | Followed this guide here | 17:18 |
| chrism_ | http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/migrating-from-cactus-to-diablo.html | 17:18 |
| chrism_ | hit the bug w/ glance DB updates failing out, but whatever i just zeroed out my glance install (purged) | 17:18 |
| Razique | ah ok I have written it :p | 17:18 |
| chrism_ | nice =) | 17:18 |
| kbringard | Razique is a documentation ninja | 17:19 |
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| chrism_ | I hit a problem when using the vlan manager, as of now my bridges/vlans aren't being created properly | 17:19 |
| chrism_ | =( | 17:19 |
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| Razique | mmm in the process u don't need to tear down vlan /brdiges | 17:19 |
| Razique | is it a multi node install ? | 17:19 |
| chrism_ | Hldup, let me find the actual bug | 17:19 |
| Razique | kbringard: hehe :p | 17:19 |
| chrism_ | yeah, 2 compute nodes, one controller | 17:19 |
| Razique | chrism_: I think you have the bridge issue | 17:20 |
| chrism_ | yeah | 17:20 |
| Razique | ok | 17:20 |
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| Razique | so update the database, set brdige_interface to NULL | 17:20 |
| Razique | and for every node; into nova.conf | 17:20 |
| Razique | add "--brdige_interface" same as "--vlan_interface" | 17:21 |
| chrism_ | aah nice | 17:21 |
| Razique | bridge_interface* | 17:21 |
| chrism_ | what table in the main DB? | 17:21 |
| Razique | networks | 17:21 |
| chrism_ | aah hldup doing so now | 17:21 |
| chrism_ | ty, btw =) | 17:21 |
| Razique | you welcome | 17:21 |
| kbringard | see, told you Razique is the man ;-) | 17:22 |
| chrism_ | okay it looks like that's already set to NULL in the DB, let me update the nova.conf files | 17:22 |
| Razique | kbringard: u nice ^^ | 17:22 |
| kbringard | naw, I'm just in a really good mood ;-) | 17:22 |
| Guest8352 | good afternoon channel :-) Does anybody know the rationale behind creating TWO disks for instances (vda and vdb) instead of just a single disk? | 17:22 |
| Razique | kbringard: as usual eh | 17:23 |
| kbringard | Guest8352: the first disk (vda) is the disk image | 17:23 |
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| kbringard | the second (vdb) is the ephemeral disk that gets created based on the flavor | 17:23 |
| Razique | I'd add that it's according the flavor u use | 17:23 |
| Razique | yup | 17:23 |
| n88 | why not just make one especially if the instance size is known (say 40 GB?) | 17:24 |
| chrism_ | n88: depends on the hypervisor you're using too | 17:24 |
| chrism_ | if you set base disk usage to like 20G, you get two disks with KVM, with other hypervisors, you'll get that 20G allocated to / | 17:24 |
| chrism_ | at least w/ cactus, not sure if htat's fixed in diablo | 17:24 |
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| Razique | what could be the point of using nova-volume's then ? | 17:24 |
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| n88 | chrism: ah so it's KVM (which I'm using in my OS install) that causes the creation of two disks | 17:25 |
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| chrism_ | Right now it's a known bug, so I think when that gets fixed the nova-volume will work as expected | 17:25 |
| chrism_ | give me afew and I can dig up the bug | 17:25 |
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| n88 | the reason I ask is i have a few users who didn't know about /vdb and filled up the /vda since users home directories are on vda…and then found out the extra 30 GB of their instance is on vdb which needs to be mounted AND formatted…seems like a lot of effort since they just want a 40 GB instance | 17:27 |
| chrism_ | yeah | 17:27 |
| n88 | I would've thought that libvirt and KVM would be smart enough to create a 40 GB disk, and then install the img on that 40 GB | 17:27 |
| chrism_ | hrm cant' find the bug right now | 17:28 |
| Razique | n88: when u set the size to 0 into the flavor, the disk is not created I think | 17:28 |
| chrism_ | yeah set the size to 0 | 17:28 |
| Kiall | Razique: correct | 17:28 |
| chrism_ | now what you can do is create the image in the size that you want to begin with | 17:28 |
| Kiall | All my "flavors" have disk size of 0 | 17:28 |
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| chrism_ | that's what I had to do to get a 60G / | 17:29 |
| chrism_ | =\ | 17:29 |
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| n88 | chrism: ah ok…so I could make my my own image and upload that with a 40 GB 'image' | 17:29 |
| Razique | chrism_: use nova-volume :) | 17:29 |
| Razique | you can on the fly provide extra space | 17:29 |
| n88 | when you say set flavors to size of 0 you mean the 'size' colum in the glance/images table? or using a nova-manage command | 17:30 |
| chrism_ | Razique: yeah but it's an additional disk at that poing | 17:30 |
| Razique | n88: the flavors | 17:30 |
| chrism_ | n88: yeah let me find the docs hldup | 17:30 |
| Kiall | Razique: nova volume is much slower than local disk, so its not always as easy as that ;) | 17:30 |
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| Razique | Kiall: I've benched both | 17:30 |
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| Kiall | Razique: was the nova-volume on the same server as compute? | 17:30 |
| Razique | the results are excellent.. | 17:30 |
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| Razique | nope, another server | 17:31 |
| n88 | Raz: 'the flavors'? I assume that means the actual unique images I have (like oneiric-x86_64) | 17:31 |
| Kiall | n88: no, they are the "m1.small" etc | 17:31 |
| Razique | in fact, it's more subtle, nova-volume is a VM itself | 17:31 |
| Razique | and connect to a SAN | 17:31 |
| Kiall | Razique: Okay, so you have a snazzy SAN that probably helps with the performance ;) | 17:31 |
| Razique | n88: openstack "flavors" = amazon "types" | 17:31 |
| chrism_ | n88: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/creating-a-linux-image.html | 17:32 |
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| Razique | Kiall: HP MSA | 17:32 |
| n88 | Kiall: oh….so in the nova/instance-type table you have the local_gb column all set to '0'? | 17:32 |
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| Kiall | n88: yea.. we'll i have all the m1.* left as default | 17:32 |
| chrism_ | n88: if you do that, read the part about the "bootable images" at the bottom, where you skip most of the work. You wn't be able to resize it, but you'll get a VM that's > 10G | 17:32 |
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| Kiall | and added matching p1.* with 0 local_gb | 17:32 |
| Kiall | Razique: that the P4k series that nova-volume supports then? | 17:33 |
| Razique | Kiall: not at all, MSA2312i | 17:33 |
| Kiall | Someone else was looking to try and get the P2k series going, cant remember who though | 17:33 |
| n88 | Kiall: ah I see…do you use the nova-manage command for adding the entires? or did you just manually edit the DB table? | 17:33 |
| Razique | i simply do iscsi betwenn the san and nova-volume | 17:33 |
| n88 | brb | 17:33 |
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| Kiall | n88: either should work, but i used nova-manage | 17:33 |
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| Razique | n88 : I do it manually =D | 17:33 |
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| chrism_ | actually here's where it gets mentioned | 17:34 |
| chrism_ | http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Diablo | 17:34 |
| chrism_ | look under "known issues and limitations" | 17:34 |
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| n88 | so I understand…if I change local_gb = 0, then how big will OS make the instance? | 17:34 |
| cmasseraf | Hello everyone, I was trying to get the openstack-dashboard to work with no success... | 17:34 |
| Micric | Razique, running a similar setup here, I use the SAN for the more.....greedy, parts. Shat myself when it decided it could not find the LUNS yesterday evening | 17:34 |
| chrism_ | 10G | 17:35 |
| n88 | chrism: awesome thanks! I am going to bookmark that page | 17:35 |
| Razique | Kiall: http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/325188plop20111014105610.jpg = local storage | 17:35 |
| chrism_ | n88: if you do the "bootable image" but make your initial image size say 50G, then when you use that image, it'll always be 50G | 17:35 |
| Kiall | n88: it will be however big the image is... | 17:35 |
| chrism_ | but an image that big kills glance | 17:35 |
| chrism_ | lol | 17:35 |
| n88 | chrism: hahaha ok…. | 17:35 |
| Razique | nova-volume http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/602975plop20111014105552.jpg | 17:35 |
| Kiall | chrism_: look at the ubuntu oneiric .img files ;) | 17:35 |
| chrism_ | I haven't seen those | 17:36 |
| chrism_ | are they big? | 17:36 |
| Kiall | they are like 250MB, have much space ;) | 17:36 |
| Micric | cmasseraf, this page has instructions and they have never failed for me. It is near the end of the setup http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/openstack-beginners-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04-installation-and-configuration/ | 17:36 |
| chrism_ | oh yeah, but if you do xen/KVm as your hypervisor, you can only make / == 10G onn those at most | 17:36 |
| chrism_ | if you want to create a VM with / > 10G, you have to do ghetto stuff w/ the images =( | 17:36 |
| Kiall | chrism_: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/oneiric/current/ specifically, oneiric-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img | 17:36 |
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| chrism_ | aah yeah i've used those | 17:37 |
| Kiall | chrism_: not the one linked at the top! | 17:37 |
| Kiall | Those are "useless" for openstack since you can never update the kernel ;) | 17:37 |
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| Micric | OK, so do I need to manually create the br100 interface on the node so that the VLAN can be added | 17:37 |
| chrism_ | Kiall: you can update the kernel within the image i'm pretty sure | 17:37 |
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| n88 | so it sounds like my options are: 1) Keep things way they are until bug gets resolved (users must mount, format, and be cognizant of /vdb) 2) Change local_gb to 0 for a new set of instance_types and then resize my images in glance to be the actual size I want them to be (10GB, 15GB, 20GB, 40GB, etc.) | 17:37 |
| Kiall | the .img versions are like 250MB, but boot to a 10G volume | 17:37 |
| Kiall | chrism_: not in the .tar.gz versions | 17:38 |
| chrism_ | n88: pretty much | 17:38 |
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| chrism_ | I was dissapoint w/ that | 17:38 |
| chrism_ | =P | 17:38 |
| Kiall | there is a bug filed against not being able to update the kernel in the .tar.gz versions, the solution was not to use them, and instead use the .img versions | 17:38 |
| n88 | Chrism/Kiall: thanks for all the help and explanations | 17:39 |
| n88 | Kiall: Crap…I used the tar.gz versions...*sigh* | 17:39 |
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| Kiall | n88: heh ;) | 17:39 |
| Kiall | The issue is that the VM has no control over the kernel used to boot it, that happens at the HV level.. | 17:39 |
| n88 | I swear if it wasn't for this channel I'd be in the dark --> ####8)##### | 17:40 |
| n88 | that didn't quite work ###### 8) ###### | 17:40 |
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| Razique | n88: If patience is the mother of all virtues then who the father is? | 17:41 |
| n88 | ignorance? | 17:41 |
| Razique | weird, it looks like the novaclient is making non-stop calls to nova-api | 17:41 |
| Razique | after I spawned a new instances | 17:42 |
| n88 | If I don't know, there's nothing I have to be patient about :-P | 17:42 |
| * vidd hate rabbit...but will still be having rabbit stew =] (i think i figured it out) | 17:42 | |
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| Micric | His fault | 17:42 |
| vidd | having default usernames and passwords for services is bad | 17:43 |
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| Micric | Yeah, but I am too lasy to even begin trying until it ALL works for me | 17:44 |
| * vidd has determined how to kill the default username for rabbit and replace it with user-generated info =] | 17:44 | |
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| * vidd is scripting the entire process =] | 17:44 | |
| Micric | Time to vacate my place of work | 17:44 |
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| Razique | vidd: great | 17:45 |
| Razique | I'm starving :/ | 17:46 |
| vidd | give me a few to finish cookink up the script =] | 17:46 |
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| Razique | it was a literal complain :p | 17:48 |
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| Razique | does someone remember the flag which allow instance resizing on the same host ? | 17:50 |
| Razique | oh the resize only works with xen :( | 17:52 |
| n88 | here's another question that hopefully has a simple answer: does OS support EBS-backed instances? | 17:53 |
| Razique | n88: yes! | 17:53 |
| n88 | or put another way…is there any way to save the state of an instance in OS other than writing all your permanent data to a volume and re-attaching it to a new instance | 17:53 |
| Razique | also known as "boot from volume" | 17:53 |
| Razique | n88: two options here | 17:53 |
| n88 | Raz: yes boot from volume! | 17:54 |
| Razique | convert the instances to images via nova image-create | 17:54 |
| vidd | script to keep poachers off your rabbit farm =] http://dpaste.com/657572/ | 17:54 |
| Razique | second option, backup nova-volumes via a script I've written https://github.com/Razique/BashStuff/blob/master/SCR_5005_V01_NUAC-OPENSTACK-EBS-volumes-backup.sh | 17:54 |
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| Razique | nothing fancy but works here :p | 17:54 |
| Kiall | what a name ;) SCR_5005_V01_NUAC-OPENSTACK-EBS-volumes-backup.sh | 17:55 |
| Razique | n88: the nova image-create is awesome | 17:55 |
| vidd | this deletes the default "guest" user and adds your user defined user and password | 17:55 |
| Razique | thanks vidd ! | 17:55 |
| vidd | Razique, we need to get this to the devstack ppl =] | 17:55 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891264 in nova "OSAPI - Access addresses not checked for format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891264 | 17:56 |
| Razique | yah sure, u know any of them ? | 17:56 |
| vidd | hacking becomes harder if you dont already have half the user/password combo =] | 17:56 |
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| vidd | they re around here somewhere | 17:57 |
| n88 | Raz: how does the second option work…? If I backup a volume, how do I 're-launch' it? | 17:57 |
| Razique | n88: you reattach it to an instance | 17:57 |
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| n88 | ah ok…got it | 17:57 |
| Razique | see a volume as a usb key | 17:57 |
| swill | has anyone here ever used swiftauth and swift3 together? | 17:57 |
| Razique | you put content on via an instance | 17:58 |
| Razique | and can be attached to any other instance | 17:58 |
| vidd | annegentle, any chance to get this little nugget into the docs? | 17:58 |
| n88 | Raz: and the first option….you just run against a running instance and it creates an image in glance | 17:58 |
| n88 | that you then launch next time? | 17:58 |
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| Razique | n88: yup :) | 17:58 |
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| Razique | nova image-create <server> <name> | 17:58 |
| swill | I can see my boto calls hitting the keystone server in debug mode, but it is getting a 404 trying to access some bogus token that I do not believe actually is on my keystone server. | 17:58 |
| Razique | but make sure you have qemu in version 0.14 somehting like this | 17:58 |
| Razique | the one which supports qemu-clone command | 17:59 |
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| Razique | the 0.12 version doesn't have the cloning feature implemented . the image is then uploaded to glance | 17:59 |
| n88 | Raz: that's pretty sweet! what happens when you do this: Launch standard image then write some data to the ephemeral drive, then use nova image-create command to create an image of this instance. Now terminate instance. Then launch an instance using the newly created 'custom' image. Write more data to ephemeral drive. Now do I need to use nova image-create yet again to persist that second set of data? | 18:00 |
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| Razique | n88: here is the commit http://wiki.qemu.org/ChangeLog/0.14 | 18:00 |
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| Razique | that feature is the one used by nova | 18:00 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #891267 in quantum "ovs plugin fails on stock xenserver" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891267 | 18:01 |
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| Kiall | Okay, who remembers the name of the utility to generate entropy on a VM? | 18:01 |
| Razique | n88: the answer is here I'd say "Right now, it only supports to copy the full snapshot, delta snapshot is on the way". | 18:01 |
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| Kiall | I *always* forget the damn name -_- | 18:02 |
| Razique | rng ? | 18:02 |
| Kiall | thats the one! | 18:02 |
| Kiall | thanks | 18:02 |
| Razique | rng-tools :) | 18:02 |
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| Razique | n88: before creating an image don't forget to use "sync" so you force the pending I/O to be written | 18:02 |
| swill | has anyone had swift3 point to a non-existent keystone token? | 18:02 |
| n88 | Raz: ok so that means my statement above is basically correct…everytime you want to "power off" the instance you will need to run sync and then do a nova image-create command | 18:03 |
| n88 | until they implement delta snapshots | 18:03 |
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| n88 | then just clean up the old image that is no longer valid and make sure to use the new image on next instance "power up" | 18:04 |
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| Razique | n88: yah i think a instance power off was on it's way | 18:04 |
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| Razique | cuz today if you power off the instance, you loose it | 18:05 |
| Razique | soft power-off = need to run a nova reboot or euca-reboot | 18:05 |
| Kiall | Razique: unless you use nova suspend | 18:05 |
| Razique | hard power-off = nova delete of euca-terminate | 18:05 |
| Razique | Kiall: yah true but that doesn't power off the instance, does it ? | 18:05 |
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| Kiall | Yea - That instances KVM is gone once its suspended, and a nova reboot brings it back up | 18:06 |
| n88 | Kiall/Raz: so is nova-suspend and nova-reboot similar to my using say VirtualBox on my personal machine to save the image state and then boot it back up? | 18:07 |
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| Razique | n88: yup it does that | 18:07 |
| Kiall | nova suspend is like a shutdown that doesnt wipe it | 18:07 |
| Kiall | and nova reboot brings it back up again | 18:07 |
| Razique | Kiall: oh u sure ? | 18:07 |
| n88 | (I'm coming from Eucalyptus where this wasn't an option…if you terminated your instance…you lost everything…you could reboot it from within the VM, but if you terminated it hasta la vista) | 18:07 |
| Kiall | Razique: yea.. | 18:07 |
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| Razique | Kiall: so it's the equivalent of virsh destroy $domain ? | 18:08 |
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| Razique | n88: yah me too, lost a couples of datas in production here | 18:08 |
| * Razique remembers the loooong days he had trying to get back a terminated instance | 18:09 | |
| vidd | Kiall, Razique i tweeked the rabbit script http://dpaste.com/657578/ | 18:09 |
| Razique | vidd: perfect ! how nova uses the credentials then ? | 18:10 |
| n88 | Raz: Yeah…I mean my cloud users want to: run instance, save data locally (i.e. not using a volume), power-off instance. Then 3 days later, come back, power up instance, and see saved local data. I was under the impression this was only possibly with EBS-backed instances | 18:10 |
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| Kiall | Razique: off the top of my head, I dont actually know. I tend to shutdown the instance from the inside first | 18:10 |
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| vidd | Razique, --rabbit_userid and --rabbit_userid | 18:11 |
| vidd | sorry &--rabbit_password | 18:11 |
| Razique | Kiall: what would be the point of shuting down an instance ? | 18:11 |
| Razique | vidd: thanks ! | 18:11 |
| Razique | good to know that | 18:11 |
| vidd | dolphm, you here? | 18:11 |
| Kiall | Razique: So its not consuming resources while its unused... | 18:12 |
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| n88 | Kiall: but if you don't destroy the VM, isn't it still considered 'using' resources? | 18:13 |
| Kiall | Razique: I've only used it once, for an instance that wouldnt boot up and was chewing 100% cpu on 4 cores ;) | 18:13 |
| vidd | Razique, lets say for example, you have a world soccor tornament site load-balanced on 5 vm's.... | 18:13 |
| vidd | 2 months after the season, do you really need 5 instances? | 18:13 |
| Kiall | vidd: you should really be using puppet or whatever to manage that | 18:13 |
| Kiall | not setting up 5 VMs, pausing 4 of them, giving 1 8 months of updates, then trying to rejoin the other 4 | 18:14 |
| Razique | vidd: you would delete them wouldn't you ? | 18:14 |
| Razique | n88: I did a test | 18:14 |
| Razique | spawned an instance, create an image from it | 18:14 |
| n88 | Raz: ok…I could've too but I'm eating lunch and reading this channel :-P | 18:14 |
| n88 | so thanks :) | 18:14 |
| Razique | deleted the instances, recreated it from the newily created image | 18:15 |
| Razique | then update the instance, and try to override the image | 18:15 |
| Razique | that doesn't work | 18:15 |
| Razique | I end up with two images | 18:15 |
| Razique | maybe I don't know how to "update" and image | 18:15 |
| n88 | Raz: that's what I was expecting….b/c of no delta snapshots... | 18:15 |
| n88 | Raz: it just means you should delete the old image…and then make sure to use the new image on next reboot | 18:16 |
| vidd | Kiall, it was the first example i could think of that didnt involve "audult websites" =] | 18:16 |
| Razique | n88: i'll try another one, create an image, update the instance | 18:16 |
| Razique | and respawn from the same image | 18:16 |
| Razique | that would be fantastic | 18:16 |
| n88 | Raz: But if Kiall is saying I can 'power-down' my VM with its state and then later power it back up and when it's unpowered it doesn't use any resources, that may be what I'm actually looking for... | 18:16 |
| n88 | Raz: so you want to see if the updates are persisted back into the image on glance? | 18:17 |
| Kiall | n88: give it a test.. I could be wrong about the KVM being shutdown, it may only stop CPU usage.. | 18:17 |
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| Kiall | As I said, I only used it once for a messed up VM that was chewing CPU) | 18:17 |
| n88 | Kiall: I might as well try it now…lunch is almost finished…one sec | 18:17 |
| n88 | don't any of you have users that want to persist permanent data? Or do you just tell them to use a volume? My issue is that if you install lots of applications you have to reinstall them each time you start a new instance unless you create a unique image with those applications pre-loaded | 18:18 |
| Razique | n88: when I try to run a nova suspend I've " (nova.rpc): TRACE: Error: operation failed: domain save job: unexpectedly failed" | 18:18 |
| n88 | Raz: bummer | 18:18 |
| * koolhead17 wonders if he is going to add his existing project name inside tenats filed of keystone db | 18:18 | |
| Kiall | n88: then you're doing it wrong ;) | 18:18 |
| Kiall | Go look at puppet ;) | 18:19 |
| n88 | Kiall: wouldn't be the first time...haha | 18:19 |
| n88 | Kiall: so you're using the puppet framework to set up configurations and having those get pushed to instances as soon as they boot up?... | 18:19 |
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| Kiall | n88: I use puppet and ubuntu cloud init to bootstrap | 18:20 |
| n88 | Raz: what about nova shutdown or nova suspend | 18:20 |
| Razique | n88: nova shutdown ? | 18:21 |
| Kiall | Razique: weird.. suspend works for me.. | 18:21 |
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| Razique | dosn't exist | 18:21 |
| Kiall | let me try it on a test vm | 18:21 |
| n88 | Raz: guessing at commands =P | 18:21 |
| vidd | Kiall, in your ppa of dashboard, do you auto-add dashboard to apache? you is that an after install config? | 18:21 |
| Razique | Kiall: doesn't work at all here :/ | 18:21 |
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| Razique | Kiall: u use repos ? | 18:21 |
| Kiall | vidd: I do, but frankly I want to change how it does it right now | 18:21 |
| Kiall | Razique: i have my own PPA for all the packages | 18:22 |
| Razique | ok, do I need extra conf in order to make the suspend work ? | 18:22 |
| Razique | appart the allow_admin_api ? | 18:22 |
| Kiall | Not that I know of .. give me a few mins and I'll look | 18:22 |
| vidd | Kiall, yeah...i dont much like the phpmyadmin-esque method...plus it destroys the default file | 18:22 |
| Razique | here is the log http://paste.openstack.org/show/3374/ | 18:23 |
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| n88 | Raz: ok…yeah I guess it's nova suspend I'm interested in…if that does indeed "suspend" an instance and releases it resources but then lets a user 'restart' or 'reboot' that image at a later time, re-consuming the resources that would be ideal | 18:23 |
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| Razique | n88: yah, looks like it's what you need | 18:24 |
| Razique | nova suspend | 18:24 |
| vidd | Kiall, i suppose the .deb does that too then | 18:24 |
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| chrism_ | Razique: fwiw, it's not bringing up any bridges at all now =( | 18:26 |
| chrism_ | nor vlans | 18:26 |
| chrism_ | heh | 18:26 |
| Razique | check nova-network.log | 18:26 |
| Razique | need to eat | 18:29 |
| Razique | i'll be back later | 18:29 |
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| chrism_ | werd =) | 18:29 |
| bwong | Hello | 18:29 |
| Razique | try to check if the vlans are not up | 18:29 |
| chrism_ | vlans aren't getting brought up | 18:29 |
| chrism_ | but yeah | 18:29 |
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| chrism_ | not seeing anything obvious in nova-networ | 18:29 |
| Razique | ok, good luck, bye guys | 18:29 |
| chrism_ | but go eat, i'm going to tinker for a bit | 18:29 |
| chrism_ | =) | 18:29 |
| chrism_ | and ty again | 18:29 |
| Razique | ;) | 18:30 |
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| n88 | Kiall: When I try to do 'nova suspend 9' on my running VM, I get: n/a (HTTP 404) | 18:34 |
| n88 | let me check logs | 18:35 |
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| n88 | Only error in the logs: 2011-11-16 13:31:50,216 DEBUG routes.middleware [-] No route matched for POST /project1/servers/f98a58fb-5fa3-4504-82a1-9c31a430708b/suspend from (pid=2363) __call__ /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/routes/middleware.py:97 | 18:36 |
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| xavicampa | hi guys, see if somebody can help, I've been searching the web for a solution to this without any success, and I'm pretty sure is something very stupid | 18:38 |
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| xavicampa | I just apt-get upgraded my 10.10 with the nova-trunk repository | 18:39 |
| xavicampa | but can't get nova-common configured | 18:39 |
| xavicampa | I get this error: nova.exception.ClassNotFound: Class Client could not be found: cannot import name Random | 18:39 |
| xavicampa | is there anything broken in that branch at the moment? | 18:40 |
| xavicampa | or my setup? | 18:40 |
| Kiall | n88: I'm not sure .. http://paste.openstack.org/show/3376/ | 18:40 |
| Kiall | n88: and the instance's KVM is gone from ps aux | 18:41 |
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| n88 | Kiall: I just tried shutting down from within the VM and then using nova reboot; it also releases the memory and CPU | 18:41 |
| n88 | or at least doesn't consume as much | 18:41 |
| Kiall | n88: http://paste.openstack.org/show/3377/ | 18:42 |
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| n88 | there's a few commands: suspend/resume, pause/unpause (any idea what those do?), shutdown (from within instance)/reboot | 18:43 |
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| n88 | Kiall: do the pause commands work for you? You used reboot in your pastebin…do you know what resume does? | 18:44 |
| Kiall | n88: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/diablo/nova/virt/libvirt/connection.py#L525 | 18:44 |
| Kiall | they all just call straight into libvirt | 18:45 |
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| n88 | so I guess I should look at libvrit…thanks for the quick code reference. Seems there's quite a few different 'dom' commands being called…guess I'll research what each does | 18:46 |
| n88 | still not sure why I'm getting that 404 error | 18:46 |
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| n88 | unless…Kiall are you running everything on one box? | 18:46 |
| Kiall | Nope | 18:47 |
| Kiall | But- that instance is on the main node | 18:47 |
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| n88 | yeah…the address it's trying to use appears to be a like a 'libvirt' address | 18:47 |
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| n88 | so it can find /project1/servers/blah blah | 18:47 |
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| n88 | maybe... | 18:47 |
| Kiall | that code is part of the compute node .. | 18:47 |
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| Kiall | It should be working with multi-node.. without a doubt | 18:48 |
| n88 | Kiall: then it appears that the webserver handling the nova suspend call is either not running or misconfigured on my machine | 18:48 |
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| Kiall | Maybe its part of the admin api? (I cant see why it would be though) | 18:50 |
| Kiall | Do you have that enabled? | 18:50 |
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| n88 | no I don't…is that a flag in nova.conf? | 18:51 |
| Kiall | yea | 18:51 |
| Kiall | --allow_admin_api=true | 18:51 |
| n88 | what component needs that…. nova-api? | 18:51 |
| Kiall | yea | 18:51 |
| Kiall | thr same nova.conf should be suitable for all servers | 18:52 |
| Kiall | I havent found a setting yet that needed to be different on a second node | 18:52 |
| n88 | I've got users running instances on compute nodes…I'm worried about adding that configuration file and restarting nova-api on my cloud 'controller' | 18:52 |
| Kiall | I see you went into production too early so ;) | 18:53 |
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| n88 | haha…well they are a beta tester ;-) we only have 3 4-core compute nodes…we're certainly not an enterprise cloud (thank god) … haha | 18:53 |
| n88 | but they're doing some processing using the instance and I'm just nervous doing anything that might cause hiccups until they're done processing data | 18:54 |
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| Kiall | n88: any luck? | 19:08 |
| n88 | oh I'm probably going to wait unless you think I can restart nova-api without any detrimental effects? :-P | 19:09 |
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| n88 | Kiall: I printed out the chat log so will just take a stab at it later and see if it resolves things… I know where to find you if it doesn't ;-) | 19:12 |
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| xavicampa | anybody who can give me a hand to troubleshoot the "nova.exception.ClassNotFound: Class Client could not be found: cannot import name Random" error? :) | 19:20 |
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| xavicampa | happens in the line "GlanceClient = utils.import_class('glance.client.Client')" | 19:22 |
| xavicampa | of /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/nova/image/glance.py | 19:23 |
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| haji | hello | 19:28 |
| haji | what is the default user/pass for an ubuntu cloud image | 19:28 |
| haji | ?? | 19:28 |
| haji | kiall, little help | 19:29 |
| vidd | haji, ubuntu / password | 19:29 |
| xavicampa | haji, I think the password is generated randomly on boot, so you must login using ssh keys (which are injected) | 19:29 |
| vidd | but you need to log in password-less with the key | 19:29 |
| haji | doesnt work | 19:30 |
| haji | im trying to using using vnc | 19:30 |
| haji | :/ | 19:30 |
| xavicampa | you can't login from vnc... | 19:30 |
| haji | really | 19:30 |
| haji | so whats the dashboard for? | 19:31 |
| xavicampa | not with the default ubuntu AMI images at least, I think | 19:31 |
| vidd | haji, you have to ssh in with the key and turn on access from within the server | 19:31 |
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| xavicampa | vidd is correct, you can enable that afterwards | 19:31 |
| xavicampa | first login must be done though ssh | 19:31 |
| xavicampa | through* | 19:32 |
| haji | damn.. ok got it | 19:32 |
| vidd | haji, or, use a diffent image | 19:32 |
| haji | a custom image? | 19:32 |
| vidd | one that already has these abilities turned on by default | 19:33 |
| vidd | haji, yes | 19:33 |
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| haji | kk | 19:34 |
| Kiall | haji: yea, the standard ubuntu images dont have a default password (think of the giant security hole that would be!) | 19:35 |
| Kiall | You just have to set one once you SSH in | 19:35 |
| vidd | Kiall, if im not mistaken, not only do you need to reset the password, you have to enable ssh password login in the server config files | 19:36 |
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| Kiall | vidd: Possibly, I've never done it ;) | 19:36 |
| vidd | running my [hopefully] complete script from a fresh install | 19:37 |
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| haji | do i generate the key with the euca or with the dashboard? | 19:37 |
| vidd | either one should work | 19:38 |
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| haji | okk | 19:38 |
| Kiall | the dashboard (and the nova command) lets you import an existing one (bit win for me :P) | 19:38 |
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| Kiall | big win* | 19:38 |
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| vidd | Kiall, if my scripting works and i get a fully functioanl stack, would you like to see it all? | 19:39 |
| Kiall | nah.. ;) | 19:39 |
| Kiall | Sure - There are some things I'd like update my packages to handle | 19:40 |
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| vidd | your scripts just say "do this, do that" my say "what do you want for this" and "what do you want for that" =] | 19:41 |
| Kiall | vidd: lol.. I dont want them to do that ;) | 19:41 |
| Kiall | People should know what is necessary ;) | 19:41 |
| vidd | makes random passwords for databases etc =] | 19:41 |
| Kiall | I do want to update my packages to ask for details like "RabbitMQ Server IP", "RabbitMQ Server Password" etc etc | 19:42 |
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| Kiall | that way, you can deploy with little more than some standard preseeding | 19:42 |
| vidd | Kiall, i have alot of sub-scripts | 19:43 |
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| vidd | so that way you get things like a a host list (auto-created) that the scripts pull from | 19:44 |
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| vidd | bahhh forgot a "-y" | 19:45 |
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| n88 | does Nova have snapshots? Or is that in essence what image-create is? | 19:48 |
| fulanito | kiall: what ip do I need to have in the private interface | 19:48 |
| fulanito | ?? | 19:49 |
| fulanito | I am using your scripts | 19:49 |
| Kiall | fulanito: it depends really, pretty sure that step suggests going and reading the OpenStack docs :) | 19:49 |
| vidd | another missing -y =\ | 19:52 |
| n88 | does anybody know…if I want to change my glance location after I've already got images | 19:52 |
| n88 | can I: 1) change glance.api configuration directory location, 2) Manually change db entries 3) Manually copy over the image files | 19:52 |
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| n88 | and have everything still "work"? | 19:52 |
| n88 | and then of course, restart glance | 19:52 |
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| py__ | is there any good tutorial for ubuntu 11.10 and openstack install | 19:53 |
| vidd | hrm...my keystone database is not getting built | 19:53 |
| fulanito | kiall: I have already created an instance and it has a 127.16.0.3 ip and my private network is 192.168.3.2 and I do have a bridge with 172.16 network and I cant access to the instance | 19:53 |
| n88 | py_: There's a few out there... | 19:53 |
| n88 | py_ I will send you links | 19:54 |
| py__ | n88: tnx | 19:54 |
| n88 | py_: I haven't found any to be compltely accurate or updated | 19:54 |
| n88 | py_: I would recommend using Kiall's PPA repo though | 19:54 |
| n88 | py_: and looking at his scripts and files…very helpful | 19:54 |
| py__ | aha | 19:54 |
| n88 | py_: I've actually put together a very detailed document but it's not complete nor up on web yet | 19:54 |
| n88 | py_: (or at least I'm trying)…standby for links | 19:55 |
| py__ | i am looking forward to see your tutorial as wll | 19:55 |
| py__ | well* | 19:55 |
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| py__ | any goog detailed document is good | 19:55 |
| n88 | http://www.rhonabwy.com/wp/2011/09/23/installing-openstack-diablo-release-nova-and-glance/ | 19:55 |
| py__ | good* | 19:55 |
| n88 | that link doesn't say specifically 11.10 but I used many of the steps to create my doucment | 19:55 |
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| py__ | aha | 19:56 |
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| py__ | i'll give a try | 19:56 |
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| py__ | on 11.10 with this steps | 19:56 |
| n88 | http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/openstackbookv2-0_csscorp.pdf | 19:56 |
| n88 | py_: that second is a little more step by step | 19:56 |
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| n88 | here's Kiall's PPA 'homepage' as well as instructions and links to his 'scripts' that really help show what commands to issue: https://launchpad.net/~managedit/+archive/openstack/ | 19:57 |
| Kiall | n88: yea 'scripts' is the right way to put them ;) | 19:57 |
| py__ | n88: tnx, does it really need to be 2 servers ? | 19:57 |
| Kiall | no .. 1 server can run everything. | 19:58 |
| fulanito | kiall: I have already created an instance and it has a 127.16.0.3 ip and my private network is 192.168.3.2 and I do have a bridge with 172.16 network and I cant access to the instance | 19:58 |
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| py__ | Kiall: ok | 19:58 |
| n88 | py_: yes you can do it all on one for testing/development | 19:58 |
| py__ | great | 19:58 |
| n88 | py_: in fact if you're only doing one Kiall's scripts can actually be used | 19:58 |
| Kiall | fulanito: you create a set of floating IPs using nova-manage | 19:58 |
| Kiall | they would be in the 192.168.3.X range | 19:58 |
| Kiall | and you assign those to instances for public access | 19:58 |
| n88 | py_: I can't run nova-compute on my cloud controller so I have nova-compute on 3 separate nodes and that's it | 19:59 |
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| py__ | aha | 19:59 |
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| n88 | if you private message me your email I can send you the document I have with my detailed instructions…keep in mind it's draft and it assumes separate machines | 19:59 |
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| py__ | that would be great n88 | 19:59 |
| py__ | one sec | 19:59 |
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| haji | i created some floating ips, but they dont appear on the dashboard | 20:03 |
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| Kiall | haji: have you clicked the button on that page? ;) | 20:03 |
| robix | is the github nova branch 'diablo/stable' the same as the nova-2011.3.tar.gz file located athttp://www.openstack.org/projects/compute/ ? | 20:04 |
| Kiall | robix: no. | 20:04 |
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| Kiall | Its that tar.gz + a bunch of fixes | 20:04 |
| Kiall | it will eventually become 2011.3.1.tar.gz .. | 20:05 |
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| robix | ok, that helps. | 20:05 |
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| xavicampa | for the record, my problem "nova.exception.ClassNotFound: Class Client could not be found: cannot import name Random" seems to be related to the version of python-crypto Maverick packages, I may need to upgrade to natty | 20:11 |
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| haji | so i get a no route to host with ssh | 20:21 |
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| haji | im guessing a problem with my network setup | 20:22 |
| haji | my private interface to my vlan switch is different from from the bridge interface | 20:23 |
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| vidd | haji, did you set up the default ip rules? | 20:23 |
| haji | yeah port 22 | 20:23 |
| Kiall | haji: and your trying to connect to a floating IP? | 20:23 |
| Kiall | you're* | 20:23 |
| Kiall | god - I always get those wrong -_- | 20:23 |
| haji | to the fixed ip | 20:23 |
| Kiall | are you trying to ssh from the nova node? or your desktop? | 20:24 |
| haji | nova node | 20:24 |
| haji | from my desktop im using the floating ip | 20:24 |
| Kiall | weird, it should be accessible.. all in 1 or multiple nodes? | 20:24 |
| haji | two nodes | 20:25 |
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| Kiall | I think it would only be accessible from the compute node in that case.. I cant remember | 20:25 |
| haji | on the controller i have a br100 with 172.16.0.4 | 20:25 |
| haji | eth0 with 192.168.3.1 | 20:25 |
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| haji | eth1 with 10.10.10.2 | 20:26 |
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| Kiall | haji: VLAN networking? | 20:26 |
| haji | yep | 20:26 |
| haji | vlan100 shows up | 20:26 |
| Kiall | and its bound to eth1? | 20:26 |
| Kiall | cat /proc/net/vlan/vlan100 | 20:26 |
| Kiall | look for the "Device:" line | 20:27 |
| Kiall | it should say eth1 (assuming the VLAN traffic should be going over eth1 that is..) | 20:27 |
| haji | Device: eth0 | 20:27 |
| Kiall | --vlan_interface=eth1 in nova.conf? | 20:27 |
| haji | no the interface connected to the vlan switch is eth0 | 20:28 |
| haji | in my case | 20:28 |
| Kiall | Oh - so what is eth1 used for then? | 20:28 |
| vidd | Kiall, your keystone only made 3 tables in the database? | 20:28 |
| haji | public interface | 20:28 |
| Kiall | vidd: yea, if you let keystone create the tables automatically, it does that... | 20:28 |
| Kiall | if you run the migrate command, it does 4 | 20:29 |
| Kiall | go figure | 20:29 |
| haji | --vlan_interface=eth0 in my nova.conf | 20:29 |
| vidd | Kiall, half the daggone database is missing | 20:29 |
| Kiall | daggone ? | 20:29 |
| Kiall | oh wait - keystone uses more than 4 tables.. thats glance | 20:29 |
| haji | my ifconfig http://pastebin.com/A3Z3tJz2 | 20:29 |
| vidd | its short for "(*&%^&*$$&* (*)^&&^%&^* )(*)&$#$%#%^*& 78907896768$#$#^%*&*(&)(*&" | 20:30 |
| Kiall | vidd: no idea, works for me ;) | 20:30 |
| Kiall | and a pile of other people | 20:30 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891329 in nova "inconsistency in documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891329 | 20:30 |
| Kiall | haji: I'm not sure so, are you sure the switch is passing the VLAN traffic correctly? | 20:31 |
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| haji | yeah | 20:32 |
| vidd | note to self...use "service keystone restart" not "keystone-control all restart" | 20:32 |
| Kiall | vidd: yup | 20:32 |
| haji | i only configured the vlan 100 on the device | 20:32 |
| Kiall | haji: ports set to Trunk mode? | 20:32 |
| Kiall | vidd: you decided to use my packages? | 20:32 |
| haji | oh | 20:32 |
| haji | let me check | 20:33 |
| Kiall | If they are general/access vlan 100, things wont work as expected.... | 20:33 |
| vidd | Kiall, im sandboxing =] | 20:33 |
| Kiall | and what do you mean by "sandboxing".. that could have 100 different meanings ;) | 20:34 |
| vidd | well...im seeing if i can get past setting up keystone and get an instance to load =] | 20:34 |
| Kiall | lol | 20:35 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891330 in nova "installing python postgresql module" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891330 | 20:36 |
| vidd | since i cant find the middleware in the git package of keystone, what is the harm of using yours | 20:36 |
| vidd | pluss we had that conversation about pros and cons of one over the other.... =] | 20:36 |
| Kiall | ;) | 20:36 |
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| Kiall | If you want, I can write out some basic docs about how the packages work, so you can feel update them + safer using them ;) | 20:37 |
| Kiall | If you want, I can write out some basic docs about how the packages work, so you can update them + feel safer using them ;)* | 20:37 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #891335 in nova "mysql user has broad privileges" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891335 | 20:46 |
| haji | i enabled trunk mode on the ports | 20:48 |
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| haji | but i still get no route to host | 20:48 |
| haji | damn | 20:48 |
| Kiall | After setting trunk mode, did you grant access to vlan 100? | 20:48 |
| Kiall | (the default vlan is a different setting) | 20:48 |
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| haji | i did a command like this one: switchport trunk native vlan 100 | 20:50 |
| haji | after setting trunk mode | 20:50 |
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| Kiall | Looks like cisco switch syntax? | 20:50 |
| Kiall | Sadly, I dont know the cisco commands ;) | 20:50 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891337 in nova "nova-manage db sync" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891337 | 20:50 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891338 in nova "configuring mysql in nova.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891338 | 20:50 |
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| haji | yeah | 20:51 |
| haji | it is | 20:51 |
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| Kiall | Okay, so take a step back and assign vlan100 on both servers an IP .. something unused at the moment | 20:52 |
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| Kiall | get that going first | 20:52 |
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| haji | mmm the compute node doesnt have the interface vlan100 | 20:54 |
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| Kiall | From memory, It should, | 20:55 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #891339 in nova "flat network injection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/891339 | 20:56 |
| Kiall | I do use the multi-node networking though.. | 20:56 |
| haji | http://pastebin.com/kUwnTpky | 20:56 |
| Kiall | So all compute nodes also run nova-network | 20:56 |
| haji | OOH | 20:56 |
| haji | i only installed compute and volume on the second node | 20:56 |
| Kiall | and was the network created with --multi_node T ? | 20:57 |
| haji | yep | 20:57 |
| haji | i thought the nodes only need compute and/or volume | 20:58 |
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| Kiall | haji: they only need compute | 20:59 |
| Kiall | unless you create the networks with the multi-node flag | 20:59 |
| Kiall | in which case, they need nova-network aswell | 20:59 |
| Kiall | nova-volume is not needed on all servers | 20:59 |
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| haji | and the interface will be created for me or i have run the command | 21:01 |
| Kiall | nova creates all the interfaces | 21:01 |
| Kiall | ie dont manually setup bridges | 21:01 |
| haji | well i dont see them :( | 21:03 |
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| haji | gotta run | 21:05 |
| hsomd | for my first time install of swift just to familiarize myself, would you all recommend installing keynote or should i use swauth | 21:08 |
| notmyname | hsomd: why not use the included tempauth? it's much simpler | 21:08 |
| hsomd | oh i didn't know. the docs.openstack seem to imply that i should be using swauth *or* keynote | 21:08 |
| hsomd | http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-object-storage/admin/content/installing-and-configuring-auth-node.html | 21:09 |
| hsomd | ^ arethese the right directions? | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | hsomd: Error: "arethese" is not a valid command. | 21:09 |
| hsomd | notmyname, are there more straight forward docs i should look at? | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | hsomd: http://swift.openstack.org/howto_installmultinode.html or http://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html may be useful to you | 21:10 |
| hsomd | i didn't follow saio because i'm doing the install across 5 servers , and i was following the installmultinode you linked but i thought maybe it was out of date | 21:11 |
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| hsomd | it is still accurate then i assume? | 21:11 |
| notmyname | hsomd: how many proxy servers are you running? | 21:12 |
| hsomd | just 1 | 21:12 |
| notmyname | then tempauth should be fine for a simple POC | 21:13 |
| hsomd | excellent. thx | 21:13 |
| notmyname | hsomd: the swift.openstack.org docs are updated with every commit to swift. they are, by definition, the most current docs out there. there still can be mistakes in them, of course | 21:14 |
| hsomd | understood | 21:14 |
| notmyname | generally the *.openstack.org docs are written by the devs and are generally technical. the docs.openstack.org docs are generally written by a dedicated doc person (and actual writer) and are targeted at a broader audience | 21:16 |
| hsomd | the installmultinode.html doc u linked, step #1 for proxy node install says: "For every storage device in /srv/node on each node add entries to each ring." What is /srv/node? And for clarification , does that mean i'm running the swift-ring-builder command only on proxy node at this point? | 21:18 |
| hsomd | but i repeat the command, for each node, yet running that command only on the proxy server | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | you can build the ring on any computer you want. it will create 2 files and you can distribute those to each server however you want | 21:20 |
| hsomd | thx for clarifying | 21:20 |
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| jdg | Tried OpenStack-NOVA-Installer-Script for a multi-node demo setup. Now when running nova-manage db sync I'm failing with what appears to be a KeyError... anybody have any ideas? | 21:23 |
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| haji | so either is my switch or my second node that is failing | 21:25 |
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| hsomd | jdg, can u paste the exact error? | 21:26 |
| jdg | hsomd: Would you like the Trace from the nova-manage.log? | 21:27 |
| Kiall | haji: thought you were going ;) | 21:27 |
| hsomd | jdg: sure maybe pastebin it | 21:28 |
| haji | I'm mobile | 21:28 |
| jdg | hsomd: Give me a second to figure out how to pastebin and not clobber everybodys window | 21:28 |
| haji | on my android hehe | 21:28 |
| Kiall | lol | 21:29 |
| hsomd | jdg: paste.openstack.org | 21:29 |
| jdg | hsomd: Thanks... it's at #3380 | 21:31 |
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| hsomd | i'mnot really familiar w/ that. can u gimme the url? | 21:33 |
| hsomd | oh i see it | 21:33 |
| jdg | hsomd: I think you can just do paste.openstack.org/show/3380/ | 21:34 |
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| jdg | never mind... sounds like you got it | 21:35 |
| haji | but yeah I installed the nova-network and I didn't get new interfaces | 21:35 |
| haji | does it takes time | 21:35 |
| haji | or something | 21:35 |
| Kiall | haji: usually pretty quick | 21:35 |
| hsomd | jdg, sorry i'm not really familiar w/ what might be causing that :( | 21:36 |
| jdg | DOH!! That's ok, neither am I :) | 21:36 |
| jdg | Maybe I'll try posting the same query in dev? | 21:36 |
| haji | mmmm | 21:36 |
| hsomd | ya might be good idea | 21:37 |
| jdg | hsomd: Thanks for looking at it | 21:37 |
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| jog0 | notmyname, Do you know anything about http://nova.openstack.org/runnova/managing.users.html listing different roles then http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/managing-compute-users.html? | 21:42 |
| notmyname | jog0: sorry, no | 21:42 |
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| hsomd | jog0, i know a little bit about it. just basic stuff | 21:43 |
| jog0 | hsomd, my question is why are they different, and how up to date is http://nova.openstack.org | 21:44 |
| hsomd | oh ya, when i firsted started using openstack , this was confusing as HELL | 21:45 |
| hsomd | first tell me what your interpretation is so that i know how much of it you comprehend , i don't want to disparage u otherwise | 21:45 |
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| jog0 | hsomd, my understanding is that http://nova.openstack.org is more out of date then http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute which is also a little out of date (as reflected by the actual nova-manage commands) | 21:46 |
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| hsomd | the diablo one is probably the most up to date.. but i didn't see much diff in them | 21:47 |
| hsomd | i mean they're typed up diff but the cmds they give you look the same no? | 21:47 |
| haji | I was thinking my eth0 IP was the trouble | 21:49 |
| jog0 | I am referring to the command format the doc says "nova-manage user create john my-access-key a-super-secret-key" but it should be "nova-manage user create --name=john --access=my-access-key --secret=a-super-secret-key | 21:49 |
| haji | cuz its 192.168 | 21:49 |
| hsomd | jog0, u should be able to do either | 21:50 |
| jog0 | right, I am not having trouble running the commands. I am interested in knowing if ova.openstack.org docs are actively maintained since they are the first docs that pop up usually in google searches | 21:52 |
| hsomd | i don' thave the answer to that sorry | 21:53 |
| jog0 | hsomd, thanks anyway | 21:53 |
| jog0 | hsomd, do you know who I could talk to about that? | 21:54 |
| haji | and the fixed network is 172.16 | 21:56 |
| jdg | hsomd: No response in dev... do you have any recommendations for a better way to try and bring up a multi-node demo cluster? | 21:56 |
| hsomd | jdg, i think http://disqus.com/annegentle/ | 21:56 |
| hsomd | whoops | 21:56 |
| hsomd | wrong person | 21:56 |
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| hsomd | jog0, i think http://disqus.com/annegentle/ is the right person | 21:56 |
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| hsomd | jdg, here's what i'd try... | 21:57 |
| hsomd | is it mysql? | 21:57 |
| jdg | hsomd: yes | 21:57 |
| hsomd | log into mysql, drop the old db, create a new db 'nova' and give it the nova username perms permissions | 21:58 |
| hsomd | and then retry the nova-manage db sync | 21:58 |
| jdg | hsomd: sounds logical, I'll try it. | 21:58 |
| jog0 | hsomd, thanks | 22:00 |
| vidd | Kiall, you still here? | 22:01 |
| Kiall | yea | 22:01 |
| vidd | how you want me to get you copies of my scripts? | 22:01 |
| Kiall | not putting them anywhere public? | 22:01 |
| vidd | ummm...like where? | 22:02 |
| Kiall | github? | 22:02 |
| vidd | how? | 22:03 |
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| Kiall | really? | 22:03 |
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| Kiall | Create a repo on github, and they give pretty good instructions ;') | 22:04 |
| n88 | Kiall - have you ever changed the default glance image storage and cache directories? | 22:04 |
| n88 | Kiall: (this is for local image storage using glance) | 22:05 |
| Kiall | No, I dont use swift so leaving it as is was fine for me.. | 22:05 |
| n88 | Kiall: I'm not using swift either…I'm running out of space on the disk where glance is by default storing images | 22:06 |
| n88 | Kiall: So I wanted to have glance use another path on a different disk | 22:06 |
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| Kiall | Oh, If there is no config option to change it, just mount a partition there | 22:06 |
| Kiall | or ln -s .. | 22:06 |
| n88 | Kiall: I see in the glance configuration files paths and could manually change those | 22:06 |
| Kiall | or a bind mount | 22:06 |
| n88 | well all the glance-*.conf files have the path coded | 22:07 |
| n88 | so unless i did a bind mount or symbolic link | 22:07 |
| n88 | I guess I would have to change all of those | 22:07 |
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| Kiall | gotta love when your shell ends up like "┘␊┼┐␋┼⎽@␌␋:·$" | 22:10 |
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| vidd | Kiall, so...with 401's all over the place... | 22:12 |
| Kiall | no, exported a gpg key and forgot to redirect it to a file.. | 22:13 |
| vidd | most likely a openstackx issue right? | 22:13 |
| Kiall | oh, dunno.. | 22:13 |
| Kiall | what 401's? | 22:13 |
| vidd | in dashboard Unable to get service info: 401 Unauthorized This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser does not understand how to supply the credentials required. | 22:14 |
| Kiall | Oh, Dashboard has never given me that message | 22:14 |
| haji | :o | 22:15 |
| Kiall | keystone and dashboard were *really* easy to setup, I don't think I had any issues with them after i realised the ubuntu packages were broken. | 22:15 |
| dolphm | Kiall: awesome | 22:15 |
| Kiall | dolphm: lol .. I bet that the first time you heard someone say that? | 22:16 |
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| dolphm | Kiall: now that you mention it, it absolutely is | 22:16 |
| vidd | dolphm, im getting ready to [attempt to] upload some scripts for automating an install of openstack | 22:16 |
| dolphm | vidd: to where? | 22:16 |
| vidd | i think the devstack ppl might be intersted in my approach to setting rabbitmq username and password | 22:17 |
| vidd | to github if i can ever figure it out | 22:17 |
| dolphm | vidd: let me know if you need help | 22:17 |
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| vidd | i always need some kind of help...but you probably dont have a degree in psycology =] | 22:18 |
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| jdg | vidd: Do your scripts work for a multi-node setup? I may be interested in testing for you this afternoon since I can't get this $%&^ thing to work. | 22:32 |
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| vidd | jdg currently, my scripts are for single-node, single eth | 22:32 |
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| hsomd | jdg, dropping the db and recreating it didn't work? | 22:32 |
| haji | vidd are u making scripts, where can i get them? | 22:33 |
| vidd | but will be expanding [sometime after i figure out what went wrong where] | 22:33 |
| jdg | hsomd: I ran a test of just doing a mysql client connect from the remote host and all was fine. Leads me to believe there's something actually wrong in one of the .py files maybe? | 22:33 |
| vidd | haji, they are not ready for prime time yet | 22:33 |
| vidd | they are barely sutable for review | 22:33 |
| haji | oh | 22:34 |
| hsomd | jdg, did your /etc/nova.conf have the db settings in it? | 22:34 |
| vidd | and if i cant get them to git they wont even be for that =\ | 22:34 |
| jdg | hsomd: Yep, that was my first suspect. | 22:34 |
| hsomd | if you log into your mysql nova db, does it create *some* of the tables? | 22:34 |
| jdg | yes, there are the basic tables there | 22:34 |
| hsomd | odd, might be a bug then | 22:35 |
| hsomd | does that script pull the latest from trunk? | 22:35 |
| hsomd | or does it use the stable release | 22:35 |
| jdg | I'm trying to figure that out now... | 22:36 |
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| vidd | Kiall, you sure this github thing is "easy" | 22:36 |
| hsomd | jdg, you might just try downloading the stable release. i know for sure it works there | 22:36 |
| jdg | Looks like it's just an apt-get of the pkg | 22:37 |
| jdg | Which means there's something wrong with my config somewhere then. | 22:37 |
| hsomd | jdg, i can walk you through how to install multi node from source if you'd like | 22:38 |
| jdg | ppa:nova-core/release is what it pulls. | 22:38 |
| hsomd | i'm not sure what that is | 22:38 |
| jdg | hsomd: I would definitely take you up on your offer | 22:38 |
| Kiall | vidd: yea it is. | 22:38 |
| hsomd | what os you running? | 22:38 |
| jdg | Ubuntu 11.04 | 22:39 |
| hsomd | oh that's easy then. | 22:39 |
| hsomd | one sec | 22:39 |
| jdg | Two nodes, 2 nics on each (1 1Gig and 1 10Gig for iscsi/volumes) | 22:39 |
| hsomd | oh well i can help you get past the mysqldb part anyway | 22:40 |
| jdg | hsomd: more than fair | 22:40 |
| hsomd | gimme a sec | 22:41 |
| jdg | No problem | 22:41 |
| jdg | Grabbing some caffeine... | 22:41 |
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| haji | where can i find a tutorial to configure a cisco switch for openstack vlan setup | 22:41 |
| haji | ? | 22:42 |
| hsomd | jdg, here are my personal notes on getting it working from source http://paste.openstack.org/show/3381/ | 22:42 |
| hsomd | hopefully it'll be of help | 22:42 |
| jdg | hsomd: Excellent, I'll give it a go | 22:45 |
| jdg | hsomd: Would I be best starting from a fresh install of the OS? | 22:45 |
| hsomd | mmm... i don't see why you'd have to | 22:46 |
| jdg | I like that answer :) | 22:46 |
| hsomd | maybe just uninstall the nova* pkgs | 22:46 |
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| hsomd | jdg, i gotta run but good luck. | 22:48 |
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| jdg | hsomd: So I would leave my cluster controller as is and try this on the compute nodes I wish to add correct? | 22:48 |
| jdg | hsomd: Thanks for your help, I appreciate it!! | 22:48 |
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| haji | anybody here knows how to configure a cisco switch with openstack | 23:00 |
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| vidd | Kiall, dolphm FINALLY got my scripts up | 23:18 |
| vidd | https://github.com/vidd/vidd | 23:18 |
| vidd | word to the wise...these are experimental...not for general use at this time | 23:19 |
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| daMaestro | anyone know who gholt is on freenode? | 23:38 |
| notmyname | daMaestro: actually, he's gholt | 23:40 |
| notmyname | he's just not in this channel | 23:40 |
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| hsom | notmyname, so after following the http://swift.openstack.org/howto_installmultinode.html, which makes no mention of auth-server.conf, when i do swift-init all start it complains it doesn't exist. | 23:43 |
| notmyname | hsom: auth-server.conf was part of an auth server that was depricated many releases ago. what version of swift are you running? | 23:44 |
| daMaestro | i made some guesses on where he might be and whois is of no help, notmyname if you know let him know i'd like him to add a download tar on his github | 23:45 |
| hsom | i'm installing from ppa, it says 1.4.3-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 | 23:45 |
| notmyname | daMaestro: for swauth? | 23:45 |
| daMaestro | yes | 23:45 |
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| bwong | ello | 23:46 |
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| notmyname | daMaestro: https://github.com/gholt/swauth/downloads doesn't work? | 23:46 |
| daMaestro | swauth-lucid-build-1.0.2-1.tgz has too much in it | 23:46 |
| notmyname | what, then, are you looking for? | 23:47 |
| notmyname | hsom: that's the current version. have you upgraded versions of swift? | 23:47 |
| daMaestro | swauth_1.0.2-1.tar.gz alone as a download option | 23:48 |
| hsom | no it's fresh install | 23:48 |
| hsom | i don't get the error on my proxy node. it only comes up on the storage nodes | 23:49 |
| notmyname | hsom: specifically about auth-server.conf? | 23:49 |
| hsom | the only pkg difference between my storage and proxy node is 'swift-proxy', which wasn't installed on the storage nodes | 23:49 |
| hsom | yes | 23:50 |
| notmyname | daMaestro: I'm still not clear on what you are looking for. or what "too much" is | 23:50 |
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| notmyname | hsom: what exactly is the error you are seeing? | 23:56 |
| hsom | notmyname, Starting account-replicator | 23:58 |
| hsom | Unable to locate config file for auth-server. /etc/swift/auth-server.conf does not exist? | 23:58 |
| hsom | that's after a bunch of other services listed started up . cmd was swift-init all start | 23:59 |
| notmyname | hsom: I'm not sure why that would have happened | 23:59 |
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