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| masumotok | hello, I am using swift1.4.3 with keystone. If I go "/usr/bin/swift -A http://localhost:5000/v1.0 -U admin -K pass stat -v", then I got NotFound. I insert some debug statement proxy-server and account server , I realized there is no account registered. Can I "PUT" new account using /usr/bin/swift? I didnt find any sourcecode doing such operation in /usr/bin/swift. | 13:27 |
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| vicelow | Hi all, I'm looking for a storage solution, where is not necessary to use expensive servers, could I use openstack storage with economical computers? | 13:52 |
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| mjfork | masumotok: you need to use keystone-manage | 14:34 |
| mjfork | vicelow: yes, swift is designed for whitebox hardware | 14:34 |
| mjfork | vicelow: what is your use case? what kind of stroage. | 14:34 |
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| vicelow | mjfork, I would storage videos of a survillance system | 14:46 |
| vicelow | and I have to choose what kind of hardwarde I have to buy | 14:47 |
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| mjfork | ok | 14:49 |
| mjfork | how does the software store the videos - as indivdiual files in a filesystem? | 14:50 |
| vicelow | yes, I will save an ID and file name in a database for each video | 14:51 |
| mjfork | are you writing the software to grab and store videos or are you using off the shelf software? | 14:52 |
| vicelow | No, we are writing the software | 14:55 |
| oleg__ | sounds very much like swift use case | 14:55 |
| mjfork | ok | 14:55 |
| mjfork | Swift would be a good option | 14:56 |
| mjfork | you need minimally 5 machines to make it work well though | 14:56 |
| mjfork | which could be a problem | 14:56 |
| vicelow | great! | 14:56 |
| mjfork | would you be hosting this service in a datacenter or selling to to customers? | 14:57 |
| mjfork | and they would have hardware on-premises | 14:57 |
| vicelow | 5 phisical machines or coud be 3 physical and 5 virtual machines | 14:59 |
| mjfork | that sounds less than ideal to me, i would pose that question on the mailling list | 15:01 |
| mjfork | how many TBs of storage do you need? | 15:02 |
| mjfork | again - is this a hosted datacenter isntall or a on-premises customer thing | 15:02 |
| vicelow | we will host the service in a datacenter, we are reading about this in order to design the architecture | 15:03 |
| vicelow | but we don't have enough money.. this is the reason why want to start with a few machines and add more in the future | 15:04 |
| vicelow | we want to start with 12 TB | 15:06 |
| mjfork | if it is in a datacenter, I would start with 5 machines which should make future expansion easier | 15:06 |
| mjfork | have you seen http://www.referencearchitecture.org/ | 15:06 |
| vicelow | no yet | 15:07 |
| vicelow | I will read about this | 15:07 |
| vicelow | thanks mjfork | 15:07 |
| mjfork | some great informatino from rackspace | 15:08 |
| mjfork | np | 15:08 |
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| mjfork | look at Private Object Storage Requirements under Hardware Specs | 15:10 |
| vicelow | ok, thank you so much... I will come back again soon :P | 15:11 |
| mjfork | vicelow: one question - how big are your files? | 15:12 |
| vicelow | between 2mb to 1gb | 15:15 |
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| mjfork | ok, because swift doesn't handle > 5GB very well | 15:16 |
| mjfork | then you are good to go | 15:16 |
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| notmyname | mjfork: I take issue with that :-) | 15:17 |
| vicelow | I just started reading about storage solutions | 15:21 |
| mjfork | notmyname: did you see vicelow's earlier question - could be 3 physical with 5 virtual machines? | 15:21 |
| vicelow | And I wonder if gluster is an alternative to swift or a complement | 15:21 |
| mjfork | my understanding of gluster is that it is a filesysetm | 15:23 |
| mjfork | not an object store | 15:23 |
| mjfork | you would then need to run a webserver or some software to make the videos available from the filesysetm | 15:25 |
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| zykes- | hmmm | 15:28 |
| zykes- | US Senate Bill 1867 | 15:28 |
| zykes- | is freaky | 15:28 |
| oleg__ | there is an object interface for gluster | 15:29 |
| mjfork | oleg__: does it put S3 like APIs on it? | 15:29 |
| oleg__ | looks like that | 15:30 |
| mjfork | ok, then vicelow it may be an option for you | 15:30 |
| notmyname | mjfork: vicelow: VMs aren't great for swift since hypervisors tend to limit IO performance. and swift is all about IO | 15:31 |
| oleg__ | i think it's possible to setup swift with 3 zones, one per server | 15:32 |
| oleg__ | and 3 replicas | 15:32 |
| oleg__ | but it makes up total 36 TB to get 12 TB of storage space | 15:33 |
| notmyname | oleg__: yes. I'd recommend you have 4 zones to start with, though. the 4th zone allows handoff nodes (in failure situations). 3 zones will work, but without the handoff nodes, you'll limit availability in certain failure scenarios | 15:33 |
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| mjfork | whats the 5 server recommendation then? | 15:35 |
| oleg__ | notmyname: yes, i think, you are right | 15:35 |
| mjfork | "Fewer Storage nodes can be used initially, but a minimum of 5 is recommended for a production cluster." | 15:37 |
| notmyname | mjfork: 3 is minimum, 4+ recommended, 5+ ideal | 15:38 |
| oleg__ | such a cluster will survive loss of 2 nodes :) | 15:39 |
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| notmyname | right. only 3 zones will survive the loss of 2 nodes too, but at the cost of availability | 15:39 |
| notmyname | gotta run. I leave you to it | 15:40 |
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| mjfork | ok undrsatand now | 15:41 |
| mjfork | thx | 15:41 |
| mjfork | vicelow: based on that, you could setart with 4 servers minimally which would survive the loss of 1 node | 15:44 |
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| annegentle | notmyname: yeah that's the bexar release docs, not backporting | 16:44 |
| annegentle | AaronSchulz: thanks for noting it though. It's fixed in current docs. | 16:44 |
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| Kiall | annegentle: would it be worth adding "these docs are for an outdated release" to the old docs? .. I always find myself on the bexar and cacti docs via google :) | 16:48 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #899701 in tempest "Server instances not deleted after tempest test methods" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899701 | 20:01 |
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| exprexxo | does anyone know of a list of public trusted glance servers? It seems like centos and ubunto could be in a remote glance server that I could register with my glance server | 22:00 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #899731 in nova "admin extension list instances fails with KeyError" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/899731 | 22:18 |
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