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| rookie_tang | Hi , everyone , i have a question , can i configure flatDHCP mode with every compute node has a nova-network service? | 01:21 |
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| AndrewWeiss | hey, is anyone available for help in the chatroom? | 02:21 |
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| notmyname | AndrewWeiss: most people are active in here during US business hours. what do you need help with? | 02:30 |
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| AndrewWeiss | notmyname: yea, i figured that…i've been having an ongoing issue with euca-tools and keystone | 02:31 |
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| notmyname | sorry to hear that. unfortunately, I don't know enough to help since I don't use those parts of openstack | 02:31 |
| AndrewWeiss | ok no worries, thanks though | 02:31 |
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| shraddha | how do we upload application image to openstack? | 04:18 |
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| deshantm | shraddha: have you looked at glance for that? | 04:21 |
| shraddha | deshantm: no.. can we do it using the dashboard? | 04:21 |
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| deshantm | shraddha: looks like work in progress (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/image-upload) | 04:25 |
| deshantm | shraddha: in the mean time, you should be able to use other tools or the api | 04:25 |
| shraddha | deshhantm: thanks. So for now what do we yse? | 04:25 |
| shraddha | euca-tools? | 04:26 |
| deshantm | euca-tools is one way, but it looks like there is a glance command to do it | 04:28 |
| deshantm | see: http://devstack.org/stack.sh.html | 04:28 |
| deshantm | "Upload an image to glance" | 04:28 |
| deshantm | shraddha: see the glance add command example | 04:29 |
| shraddha | deshantm: great. thanks. I will look it up | 04:29 |
| deshantm | shraddha: you may want to take a look at docs.openstack.org for other documentation | 04:30 |
| deshantm | shraddha: for example http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-image-service/admin/content/using-the-glance-cli-tool.html | 04:31 |
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| shraddha | deshantm: thanks a lot! | 04:32 |
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| corXi | Does anyone know how long it will take to get your CLA thingy approved on launchpad? Created one yesterday... | 09:35 |
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| mattstep | Pretty quick, but make sure you update the wiki page, join the launchpad group, etc. | 09:43 |
| corXi | mattstep: did all of such steps afaik.... | 09:43 |
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| Tristan|i3D | I am building myself a Centos 6 image from a iso | 09:52 |
| Tristan|i3D | create a centos.img | 09:52 |
| Tristan|i3D | but what is the container format? | 09:52 |
| Tristan|i3D | img? | 09:52 |
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| Tristan|i3D | I guess its raw | 10:05 |
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| raimaz | pitichai: | 10:31 |
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| Tristan|i3D | So i have build a centos image | 10:56 |
| Tristan|i3D | but when I launch the image, the instance wont get any IP address | 10:56 |
| Tristan|i3D | any idea whats wrong? | 10:56 |
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| uksysadmin | Tristan|i3D: connect via vnc (computehost:5900, 5901, etc) and see why | 11:04 |
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| journeeman | Hi. The openstack-compute starter guide lists a flag `--cc_host' to be added to nova.conf (http://goo.gl/I75mT) but the reference for flags in nova.conf doesn't list it. What does the flag stand for? Do I need to add it in nova.conf? | 12:04 |
| journeeman | Nova version is 2011.3 | 12:05 |
| journeeman | Appreciate any help :) | 12:05 |
| journeeman | Does it stand for the host machine where nova-api is running? | 12:07 |
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| Tristan|i3D | journeeman, where is the reference guide for nova.conf located? | 12:12 |
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| spampel | Hello to everone! I have one question: Is it possible to resume an OpenStack Upload? | 12:21 |
| journeeman | Tristan|i3D: http://goo.gl/nuOll | 12:21 |
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| dubey | hello | 12:21 |
| journeeman | Tristan|i3D: It does not list all the flags but, nova-compute --help doesn't have it either | 12:22 |
| spampel | I mean an Upload to the Object Storage. | 12:22 |
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| zynzel | keystone bug, trunk: OperationalError: (OperationalError) attempt to write a readonly database u'INSERT INTO tokens | 12:24 |
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| spampel | Does anyone know if Swift supports Content-Range Header for PUT Requests? | 12:32 |
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| zynzel | oh, bad chmod, not bug ;) | 12:36 |
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| cliassom | who knows why the swift proxy returns 404 on step 2 when I follow http://swift.openstack.org/howto_installmultinode.html#create-swift-admin-account-and-test ? | 13:08 |
| cliassom | googling brings nothing | 13:10 |
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| ritesh | iam able to ping a vm from my controller but not from outside the controller | 13:13 |
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| spampel | @cliassom What did you get back from the first request? | 13:18 |
| larissa | spampel: Error: "cliassom" is not a valid command. | 13:18 |
| cliassom | @spampel HTTP/1.1 200 OK | 13:19 |
| larissa | cliassom: Error: "spampel" is not a valid command. | 13:19 |
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| cliassom | with X-Storage-Url, X-Storage-Token, X-Auth-Token | 13:20 |
| spampel | Are you using TempAuth? | 13:20 |
| cliassom | yep | 13:20 |
| cliassom | now I'm considering using swauth | 13:21 |
| spampel | Did you specify a X-Storage-Url in the proxy.conf? | 13:21 |
| cliassom | yes, just like the manual says | 13:21 |
| spampel | Can you post the actual commandy that you used? (obfuscated) | 13:23 |
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| Tristan|i3D | my instances wont get any dhcp / static ip address | 13:25 |
| Kiall | cgoncalves: yes, they work on single server. They actually work better on single server ;) | 13:25 |
| Tristan|i3D | what am i doing wrong? | 13:25 |
| Kiall | phschwartz: I've never seen that happen, but it sounds like a routing issue to me. | 13:26 |
| Tristan|i3D | sorry, note: the instance i am talking about is a instane created with my own centos image | 13:26 |
| spampel | #cliassom: Are you doing the SAIO setup? Or do you have multiple nodes? | 13:26 |
| cliassom | here's proxy-server.conf http://pastebin.com/uiFxv6ae and here are commands http://pastebin.com/RBK6zs8M | 13:26 |
| cliassom | multiple nodes | 13:26 |
| cliassom | what's SAIO? | 13:27 |
| spampel | Swift All in One | 13:27 |
| cliassom | ah, ok | 13:27 |
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| spampel | Is the IP you used in proxy-server.conf reachable from the PC you are testing with or is it the internal interface of the proxy | 13:28 |
| spampel | ? | 13:28 |
| cliassom | invoking curl on the proxy machine | 13:29 |
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| notmyname | cliassom: spampel: I know what the issue is. let me find the config variable to paste | 13:29 |
| spampel | How does your $PROXY_LOCAL_NET_IP look like? | 13:30 |
| cliassom | 192.168.56.105 | 13:30 |
| notmyname | cliassom: in the [app:proxy-server] section, set "account_autocreate = true", then restart the proxy server (swift-init proxy restart) | 13:30 |
| cliassom | ok, thanks, will do | 13:31 |
| spampel | That will work | 13:31 |
| spampel | I had the same problem. But didn't remember what the actual fix was. | 13:31 |
| phschwartz | kiall: That is what I am thinking. But I am not sure what the issue might be. I might get one of the networking guys to take a look. | 13:31 |
| Kiall | Is there only 1 upstream router, just accessible over multiple VLANs? | 13:32 |
| cliassom | notmyname: spampel: is it any way to do the manual modification request? | 13:32 |
| Kiall | phschwartz: As in .. is you had a default gateway for each interface, would all the GW IPs be the same physical router? | 13:32 |
| notmyname | cliassom: you mean updating the docs? or doing something non-automatically? | 13:33 |
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| cliassom | notmyname: just ask openstack guys to update the doc | 13:33 |
| cliassom | with account_autocreate = true | 13:33 |
| phschwartz | kiall: 2 switches, one on the external side and one on the internal side. The internal side is the one that has the hang up issue. | 13:33 |
| Kiall | phschwartz: the switches double as routers?? | 13:34 |
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| Kiall | What I'm getting at is, if all the GW IPs for each VLAN are the same physical piece of hardware, regardless of the cables/switches used to get there or not.. | 13:35 |
| phschwartz | Yes, the external is a high end Force10 switch with level 2 routing internal. The internal side is a cisco super 2924xl with level 2 routing. | 13:35 |
| phschwartz | Kiall: Ah, the answer to that is yes. | 13:35 |
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| Kiall | Wait - That can't be a yes if you use a F10 and Cisco router ;) | 13:36 |
| phschwartz | Wait, I just reread the question. I am still out of it due to this cold. lol | 13:36 |
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| notmyname | cliassom: actually, it's already in the docs (see the example config here: http://swift.openstack.org/howto_installmultinode.html#configure-the-proxy-node) | 13:37 |
| phschwartz | No, the GW ips for the VLans are different. Which is why I am getting the routing issue. I will have to add a few static routes to the internal network between vlans. | 13:37 |
| Kiall | If the next router - an actual router i.e. the thing you would set as a default gateway in a simple setup - are the same, then you can likely get things working by disabling reverse path filtering on the router | 13:37 |
| cliassom | notmyname: account_autocreate is absent there | 13:37 |
| cliassom | and yes, it helps, just checked that out | 13:38 |
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| notmyname | cliassom: ah. I was seeing allow_account_management. sorry | 13:38 |
| phschwartz | kiall: I didn't think about that. Let me try it and I will get back to it. | 13:38 |
| phschwartz | *s/it/you | 13:38 |
| Kiall | RPF is used to drop packets from unverifiable IPs. Eg if a packet arrives at the router on its 1.0.0.0/24 nic, but has an source address in 2.0.0.0/24, the router will scrap the packet | 13:39 |
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| Kiall | If both router IPs point at the same piece of hardware, its usually enough to disable that and it should be happy.. | 13:40 |
| Kiall | If its 2x routers, things get more complex. | 13:40 |
| Kiall | 2x physcial routers* | 13:40 |
| notmyname | cliassom: https://review.openstack.org/#change,3958 | 13:40 |
| phschwartz | Maybe I will disable routing on the internal network and have it all use the router on the external network. | 13:40 |
| phschwartz | Might clean it up a bit. | 13:40 |
| Kiall | phschwartz: meaning the instances are only accessible over floating IPs? | 13:40 |
| phschwartz | kiall: That is what I was thinking. I only need the nodes really to communicate with eachother over the private, nothing else. | 13:41 |
| Kiall | (Thats the standard + correct setup IMHO .. And I really do mean in my opinion.. I've never seen anything official saying it should be done that way) | 13:41 |
| phschwartz | kiall: I will do that as I think it will be easier to maintain in the long run. :) | 13:42 |
| ivoks | i'm having problems connecting dashboard with nova... querying glance objects (images) works from dashboard, nova objects (like keypais) are accessible with nova CLI client, but dashboard complains with 'Unable to retrieve keypair list'. api-paste.ini looks ok (i guess) | 13:42 |
| phschwartz | Hell if I need another block of floating ip's I can add them easy enough even though I started with a /25 | 13:42 |
| Kiall | No matter what happens, when a computer can reach the outside world (ie outside its own subnets) via more than 1 interface, things go haywire | 13:43 |
| phschwartz | Very true. | 13:43 |
| Kiall | phschwartz: right, you can add more - even in a completely different subnet easily enough | 13:43 |
| phschwartz | kiall: exactly, and then only need to be routable on the public network. | 13:43 |
| Kiall | Exactly, the private side IMO is meant to only be accessible from nova nodes and instances.. | 13:44 |
| cliassom | notmyname: ok | 13:44 |
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| Kiall | "CloudPipe" Nova's VPN stuff is intended to provide access to the private VLANs without floating IPs if needed, but I've not heard of anyone getting it working (yet) ;) | 13:45 |
| Kiall | (and I've never tried) | 13:45 |
| phschwartz | kiallL: ok, that switch to single routing works nicely. I will leave it like that. | 13:47 |
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| corXi | Kiall I have cloudpipe working just fine :P | 13:53 |
| phschwartz | What exactly is cloudpipe? | 13:53 |
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| Kiall | I probably should have qualified that statement a tad.. "but I've not heard of anyone getting it working with keystone" | 13:54 |
| corXi | except it lacks keystone support.... | 13:54 |
| Kiall | ;) | 13:54 |
| corXi | for which I have a patch | 13:54 |
| corXi | but can't commit .... CLA :S | 13:54 |
| Kiall | -_- | 13:54 |
| Kiall | Company wont let you sign the CLA? | 13:54 |
| corXi | yeah I did sign CLA.... but waiting for admins to approve it on launchpad :S | 13:54 |
| Kiall | Oh.. when did you apply to the LP group? | 13:55 |
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| corXi | yesterday.... but there are some other pending requests from people in there (one is even 6days old)... so I'm not sure how often this pending list is checked/approved | 13:56 |
| Kiall | Ping one of these guys if you wany.. https://launchpad.net/~openstack-admins | 13:57 |
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| Kiall | Most of them are in the -dev chan, and AFAIK they usually do the list every day | 13:57 |
| corXi | they're all in other timezone +8hrs .. except for one which isn't online :( | 13:58 |
| Kiall | Older entries are likely people who messed up, didnt use the right LP id or w/e | 13:58 |
| corXi | ah okie | 13:58 |
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| annegentle | ttx: can you approve the pending CLA members? see ^^ | 14:01 |
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| * ttx looks | 14:02 | |
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| ttx | Kiall: you actually need to ping a core developer. They are the ones that can add new members. | 14:03 |
| Kiall | ttx: not for me :) | 14:03 |
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| * ttx is not an admin of the membership in that group. | 14:04 | |
| Kiall | Right - I was wondering why anne suggested you ;) | 14:04 |
| ttx | corXi: which project are you contributing for ? | 14:04 |
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| corXi | compute I guess... cloudpipe.... | 14:04 |
| ttx | hmm, actually I can. Let me know how I can fix you | 14:05 |
| ttx | let me see* | 14:05 |
| annegentle | Kiall: ttx oh interesting, ttx is in the openstack-admins group, but it's actually a core member needed | 14:05 |
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| annegentle | er, that should have been a question? | 14:05 |
| * Kiall didnt see ttx in the admins group | 14:05 | |
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| * Kiall gets back to work.. or maybe a nap. Something that doesnt involve too much thinking! | 14:06 | |
| annegentle | Kiall: ttx is Theirry :) | 14:06 |
| ttx | I must inherit it from some admin group. | 14:06 |
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| Kiall | Yea - I didn't notice his name on the group page, I always forget to click into the full member list! | 14:06 |
| ttx | corXi: what's your name ? | 14:07 |
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| corXi | ttx: Cor Cornelisse | 14:08 |
| ttx | corXi: done | 14:09 |
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| corXi | ttx: cool! Tnx a lot! | 14:10 |
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| Kiall | Now all you have to do is figure gerrit out ;) | 14:11 |
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| corXi | Kiall: managed to get that stuff setup last time I committed something ... so that's easy :P | 14:12 |
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| Tristan|i3D | Kiall, http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/starter/content/Uploading_to_OpenStack-d1e1534.html <- I dont have euca-* available with my diablo install, how come? | 14:14 |
| ttx | Tristan|i3D: euca-* is in the euca2ools package | 14:15 |
| Kiall | Did you install the euca2ools package | 14:15 |
| Kiall | ? | 14:15 |
| Kiall | As detailed here ;) http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/starter/content/Client_Tools-d1e1206.html | 14:15 |
| Tristan|i3D | Kiall, no I did not. Not needed untill now. Glance add worked fine | 14:15 |
| Kiall | the euca tools are alternatives to the nova and glance commands.. | 14:16 |
| Kiall | they use the EC2 compatible API, rather than the OpenStack native API | 14:16 |
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| Tristan|i3D | I figured. | 14:16 |
| Kiall | annegentle: BTW, Are there any plans to update the docs to use the native tools primarily? | 14:16 |
| Tristan|i3D | ^ would like to know, issue now for me | 14:17 |
| uvirtbot | Tristan|i3D: Error: "would" is not a valid command. | 14:17 |
| Kiall | I've noticed it causing all sorts of confusion with A) What does Eucalyptus have to do with OpenStack, and B) Keystone | 14:17 |
| Tristan|i3D | right | 14:17 |
| Tristan|i3D | I need to figure out the openstack native command for uploading ubuntufinal.img | 14:18 |
| Kiall | that's `glance add` | 14:18 |
| Kiall | https://github.com/managedit/openstack-setup/blob/master/glance-upload-oneiric.sh | 14:18 |
| Tristan|i3D | I know | 14:18 |
| Tristan|i3D | but with the --kernel etc | 14:18 |
| Kiall | Avoid using external kernels wherever possible... | 14:19 |
| Kiall | Same for ramdisk... | 14:19 |
| Kiall | If you use an external kernel/ramdisk - you can never update the kernel inside the instance.. | 14:19 |
| Tristan|i3D | well I followed the 'creating linux image ubuntu' guide | 14:19 |
| Kiall | glance add name="ubuntu-final" is_public=true container_format=ovf disk_format=qcow2 < ubuntufinal.img | 14:19 |
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| Kiall | assuming its a qcow2 image | 14:20 |
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| Tristan|i3D | how do I know its a qcow2 image? | 14:20 |
| Tristan|i3D | if following the guide | 14:21 |
| Kiall | Did you create an qcow2 image, or a raw image? | 14:21 |
| Kiall | (I've no clue what the guide says BTW) | 14:21 |
| Tristan|i3D | sudo kvm -m 256 -cdrom ubuntu-11.10-server-amd64.iso -drive file=server.img,if=scsi,index=0 -boot d -net nic -net user -nographic -vnc :0 | 14:21 |
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| Kiall | What did you use to create "server.img" | 14:21 |
| Tristan|i3D | sorry | 14:21 |
| Tristan|i3D | wrong paste | 14:21 |
| Tristan|i3D | kvm-img create -f raw server.img 5G | 14:21 |
| Tristan|i3D | so raw :) | 14:21 |
| Kiall | Right, so its a raw image rather than qcow2 | 14:22 |
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| Tristan|i3D | So the guide should say qcow2 instead? | 14:23 |
| Kiall | No - Either work | 14:23 |
| Kiall | you just need to tell glance add what kind of image you are uploading | 14:24 |
| Kiall | glance add name="ubuntu-final" is_public=true container_format=ovf disk_format=qcow2 < ubuntufinal.img | 14:24 |
| Kiall | vs | 14:24 |
| Kiall | glance add name="ubuntu-final" is_public=true container_format=ovf disk_format=raw < ubuntufinal.img | 14:24 |
| Tristan|i3D | right | 14:24 |
| Tristan|i3D | nova@server10326:~$ glance -A 3529c3aa-d616-4ee5-96a5-6134d89e0cf6 index | 14:25 |
| Tristan|i3D | Not authorized to make this request. Check your credentials (OS_AUTH_USER, OS_AUTH_KEY, ...). | 14:25 |
| Tristan|i3D | I think I passed the 24h period :) | 14:25 |
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| Kiall | ;) | 14:26 |
| Tristan|i3D | how come I need to add -A | 14:26 |
| Tristan|i3D | where most guides says none of this | 14:26 |
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| Kiall | because, as it says, you haven't set the OS_AUTH_USER, OS_AUTH_KEY etc env variables | 14:26 |
| Tristan|i3D | ahh | 14:26 |
| Tristan|i3D | ok added | 14:29 |
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| Tristan|i3D | lets see if it runs | 14:29 |
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| Tristan|i3D | nope :( | 14:30 |
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| Tristan|i3D | hmmm | 14:31 |
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| BasTichelaar | is anyone using keystone backed by ldap? | 14:31 |
| Tristan|i3D | still having issues BasTichelaar ;) | 14:32 |
| Tristan|i3D | sorry I do not, cant help | 14:32 |
| BasTichelaar | Tristan|i3D: issues with what? | 14:33 |
| Tristan|i3D | BasTichelaar, keystone + ldap, you were here yesterday | 14:33 |
| BasTichelaar | ah ok | 14:33 |
| BasTichelaar | well, I managed to get keystone working fine, and I can create and remove tenants using the api | 14:33 |
| Tristan|i3D | cool | 14:34 |
| BasTichelaar | but was wondering if it would make sense to switch the backend to ldap | 14:34 |
| Tristan|i3D | got it documented? | 14:34 |
| BasTichelaar | what, setting up keystone? | 14:34 |
| BasTichelaar | I can paste it in a pastebin or so | 14:34 |
| Tristan|i3D | ah thought with ldap | 14:34 |
| BasTichelaar | ok | 14:34 |
| BasTichelaar | will try it out now | 14:35 |
| BasTichelaar | Ill let you know | 14:35 |
| BasTichelaar | but not sure if there are any advantages in using ldap over db backend | 14:35 |
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| BasTichelaar | but it seems even the developers are discussing about it | 14:36 |
| BasTichelaar | http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack@lists.launchpad.net/msg07151.html | 14:36 |
| BasTichelaar | hmm, interesting, keystone light | 14:37 |
| BasTichelaar | https://github.com/termie/keystonelight | 14:37 |
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| Tristan|i3D | Still To Do | 14:38 |
| Tristan|i3D | LDAP backend | 14:38 |
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| BasTichelaar | Tristan|i3D: haha, yes | 14:41 |
| BasTichelaar | Tristan|i3D: but its interesting: http://robhirschfeld.com/2012/01/30/openstack-keystone-makes-smart-bold-move-to-improve-quality/ | 14:42 |
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| Tristan|i3D | BasTichelaar, true | 14:43 |
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| Tristan|i3D | So I dont understand one part of the OS installation guide of a custom ubuntu image. Does the single / ext4 partition needs to be bootflagged? As mine wont boot. | 14:48 |
| Tristan|i3D | Well it says, could not read from CDrom | 14:48 |
| Tristan|i3D | hm thats weird | 14:48 |
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| Tristan|i3D | How do I shutdown the vm after the installation? Kill the kvm process? | 14:49 |
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| gnu111 | can i run nova-mange commands outside of my nova management node? do i just need to install python-novaclient? | 15:03 |
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| Tristan|i3D | annegentle, I have the feeling this guide is still for cactus? http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/starter/content/Uploading_to_OpenStack-d1e1534.html | 15:14 |
| Tristan|i3D | "The last step would be to upload the images to OpenStack Imaging Server glance. The files that need to be uploaded for the above sample setup of Ubuntu are: vmlinuz-2.6.38-7-server, initrd.img-2.6.38-7-server, serverfinal.img" There is no previous mention about extracting and uploading the kernels | 15:15 |
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| Tristan|i3D | Kiall, can you guide me on how to create a ubuntu image? | 15:23 |
| Tristan|i3D | the installation part goes alright, but if I complete the installation and the system reboots it cannot find its boot device. keeps trying to pxe. | 15:24 |
| Tristan|i3D | When I launch the same img with a new kvm console it boots ubuntu fine | 15:24 |
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| Kiall | what does the /etc/fstab look like inside the new image? | 15:24 |
| Tristan|i3D | lets see | 15:25 |
| Tristan|i3D | when I run nova@server10326:~$ sudo kvm -m 256 -drive file=server.img,if=scsi,index=0,boot=on -boot c -net nic -net user -nographic -vnc :0 | 15:25 |
| Tristan|i3D | its boots just fine | 15:25 |
| Tristan|i3D | I can vnc to it | 15:25 |
| Tristan|i3D | hmmm the UID is still hex | 15:26 |
| Tristan|i3D | Ive read in the cactus docs that needed to change | 15:26 |
| Tristan|i3D | http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/starter/content/Tweaking_etc_fstab-d1e1463.html | 15:27 |
| Tristan|i3D | this part is missing in the diablo docs | 15:27 |
| Kiall | Yea - You need to change that | 15:28 |
| Tristan|i3D | pfff | 15:28 |
| Kiall | I use "LABEL=cloudimg-rootfs", matching the current ubuntu images | 15:28 |
| Kiall | Also .. `rm -f /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-*` | 15:29 |
| Tristan|i3D | done that | 15:29 |
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| Kiall | if you boot it back up, you need to do it again | 15:29 |
| Tristan|i3D | oh | 15:29 |
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| Tristan|i3D | nova@server10326:~$ sudo rm -rf /mnt/etc/udev/rules.d/ | 15:30 |
| Tristan|i3D | 70-persistent-cd.rules README | 15:30 |
| Tristan|i3D | its not there | 15:30 |
| Tristan|i3D | so im good | 15:30 |
| Tristan|i3D | http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/starter/content/Kernel_and_Initrd_for_OpenStack-d1e1503.html | 15:30 |
| Tristan|i3D | this part is not needed anymore? | 15:30 |
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| Kiall | No - I avoid using an external kernel/ramdisk where possible... | 15:31 |
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| Tristan|i3D | ok reuploading the image | 15:32 |
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| Tristan|i3D | can I create an instance tiny even if the image is 5gb? | 15:34 |
| Tristan|i3D | Kiall, nope same issue | 15:35 |
| Tristan|i3D | still booting pxe | 15:35 |
| Tristan|i3D | it might have not been saved to the serverfinal.img | 15:36 |
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| Kiall | Did you remember to pull the partition out of the image? When you install, serverfinal.img is treated as a disk.. the installer then creates a partition inside it.. | 15:38 |
| Kiall | Did you pull the partition out into its own file? | 15:38 |
| Tristan|i3D | i did. ill start over just to be sure | 15:38 |
| Tristan|i3D | now with the step where fstab is being changed | 15:38 |
| Tristan|i3D | oh wait | 15:39 |
| Kiall | Probably no need to start over, boot (or mount) serverfinal.img (assuming that's the extract partition), make any changes, and upload | 15:39 |
| Tristan|i3D | There is a tweaking fstab part in the diablo docs | 15:39 |
| Tristan|i3D | its hided under the OS installation part | 15:39 |
| Tristan|i3D | ffs | 15:39 |
| Kiall | weird - it says to use "uec-rootfs" even though all the ubuntu images use "cloudimg-rootfs" | 15:40 |
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| Tristan|i3D | does the bootable flag needs to be 'on' on the single ext4 / partition? | 15:41 |
| Tristan|i3D | guess not | 15:42 |
| Kiall | I would imagine so ;) | 15:42 |
| Tristan|i3D | it does? | 15:42 |
| Tristan|i3D | or does not be on bootable | 15:42 |
| Kiall | Well.. Yea.. If you want the VM's BIOS to try and boot it, it should be marked as bootable... | 15:42 |
| Tristan|i3D | the docs dont mention | 15:43 |
| Tristan|i3D | so thats why im in doubt :) | 15:43 |
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| Tristan|i3D | ok Kiall im now at this part | 15:45 |
| Tristan|i3D | After finishing the installation, relaunch the VM by executing the following command. | 15:45 |
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| Tristan|i3D | but the thing is. I can only reboot after the install | 15:45 |
| Tristan|i3D | and the reboot wont boot | 15:45 |
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| Kiall | "wont boot"? | 15:46 |
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| Tristan|i3D | as in: it wont find any bootable disk. Tries to pxe | 15:46 |
| Tristan|i3D | I can kill the kvm process ofcourse | 15:46 |
| Kiall | Did you amend the fstab before rebooting? | 15:46 |
| Tristan|i3D | and relaunch then | 15:46 |
| Tristan|i3D | how? going in console? | 15:47 |
| Kiall | No, Just wondering if you did.. It would cause issues if you did.. | 15:47 |
| Kiall | (at this state_) | 15:47 |
| Kiall | stage* | 15:47 |
| Tristan|i3D | ah no i did not | 15:47 |
| Tristan|i3D | I have to option to continue (and reboot) or go back | 15:47 |
| Tristan|i3D | I the previous 3 times I choose contine | 15:47 |
| Tristan|i3D | continue* and if failed to boot | 15:48 |
| Kiall | Honestly can't remember, It's been ages since I build a DIY image... | 15:48 |
| Tristan|i3D | so i am wondering if I am doing something wrong here | 15:48 |
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| Tristan|i3D | heres the screen from after the reboot | 15:51 |
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| Tristan|i3D | https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&view=bsp&ver=ohhl4rw8mbn4 | 15:51 |
| Tristan|i3D | oh | 15:51 |
| Tristan|i3D | hmm | 15:51 |
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| Tristan|i3D | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/qemu.png/ | 15:51 |
| Tristan|i3D | well, Ill kill the kvm process and continue | 15:52 |
| Tristan|i3D | well see | 15:52 |
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| Tristan|i3D | Kiall, shall i proceed with uec-rootfs or cloudimg-rootfs | 15:57 |
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| mattray | anyone here working on thefreecloud.org? | 16:09 |
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| Tristan|i3D | Kiall, started all over, follow every step. Still got the same problem. Any idea? | 16:11 |
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| mattray | are the API keys somewhere exposed in Dashboard? | 16:20 |
| annegentle | mattray: check out #freecloud | 16:22 |
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| mattray | annegentle: thanks! | 16:22 |
| annegentle | mattray: nati2 and jaypipes are the main points of contact, I'm working on it too, though not as an admin. I think you have to request the API key on the command line, it's not in the Dashboard that I know of. | 16:22 |
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| mattray | good to know | 16:23 |
| mattray | maybe someone in there will help me get setup, since I have web access | 16:23 |
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| Kiall | mattray: the user/pass you use for web access will get you native API access (ie not access the EC2 compatibility API) | 16:31 |
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| mattray | Kiall: your access key id and secret key? | 16:32 |
| mattray | Kiall: so you use your login as your access key and your pass as your secret key? | 16:33 |
| Kiall | OpenStack has 2 APIs.. The "OpenStack API" and the "EC2 Compatible API" .. The user/pass you use for the dashboard is the key and secret for the "OpenStack API" | 16:33 |
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| mattray | excellent, I hadn't used the OpenStack API | 16:34 |
| mattray | last time I worked with the ec2 api | 16:34 |
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| cloudgeek | any alternative for amazon how setup | 16:37 |
| cloudgeek | like for private VM openstack is super | 16:37 |
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| Tristan|i3D | Anyone else who can help me with my image problem? | 16:46 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: ping? | 18:13 |
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| davepigott | Anybody? I have a problem. I've installed openstack and got swift running as per the Beginner's Guide (plus some guidance from jamespage). When I get swift up, I do the suggested "curl" command and the response I get is: "This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser does not understand how to | 18:15 |
| davepigott | What have I got wrong and where? | 18:15 |
| dolphm | davepigott: what's the suggested curl command? | 18:16 |
| davepigott | dolphm: curl -v -H ’X-Storage-User: admin:admin’ -H ’X-Storage-Pass: admin’ http://127.0.0.1:8080/auth/v1.0 | 18:17 |
| davepigott | It's just designed to see that swift is running properly | 18:17 |
| davepigott | Which, obivously, it isn't. :) | 18:18 |
| dolphm | davepigott: where did you set up the admin user? i.e. which authentication implementation | 18:19 |
| davepigott | dolphm: I'm not sure. I've been pretty much following the script, as it were. Weirdly this worked before. We had a crash and I had to reconfigure things again | 18:20 |
| davepigott | dolphm: And I don't see anywhere in the document that actually sets up an admin user | 18:21 |
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| dolphm | davepigott: what happens when you `curl http://localhost:35357/v2.0/` | 18:23 |
| davepigott | dolphm: I get "couldn't connect to host" | 18:24 |
| dolphm | davepigott: is keystone installed? startup should just be `keystone` if it's on your path | 18:25 |
| notmyname | davepigott: do you have a link to the guide you followed to set up swift? | 18:26 |
| davepigott | dolphm: No. It's not installed | 18:26 |
| dolphm | davepigott: you might be able to configure swift without it, but that's probably the problem | 18:27 |
| davepigott | notmyname: http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/openstackbookv2-0_csscorp.pdf | 18:27 |
| notmyname | no, keystone is not required in any way fro swift | 18:27 |
| davepigott | dolphm: I didn't have it installed previously when it worked | 18:27 |
| notmyname | davepigott: so I can assume your proxy config matches the one found in section 2.2.7.4 of that document? | 18:28 |
| davepigott | notmyname: Yep | 18:29 |
| notmyname | davepigott: the important part is the [filter:tempauth] section | 18:29 |
| notmyname | davepigott: cool | 18:29 |
| davepigott | notmyname: Ah yes. That's where the admin user gets set up. I see. :) | 18:30 |
| notmyname | davepigott: the "admin" user you are using is set in the "user_admin_admin" line | 18:30 |
| notmyname | ya | 18:30 |
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| dolphm | cool | 18:30 |
| notmyname | davepigott: you said you had a crash? everything is started and working? | 18:31 |
| notmyname | including memcached? | 18:31 |
| davepigott | notmyname: It is now. The crash was because of a network config error. I installed memcached. Let me check if it's running | 18:31 |
| notmyname | davepigott: actaully, we can simply look in the logs to see what's going on | 18:31 |
| davepigott | notmyname: True. Which one of the many? ;) | 18:32 |
| notmyname | davepigott: look in syslog (assuming you haven'r redirected it somewhere--I'm not sure what that guide does) | 18:32 |
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| davepigott | notmyname: Just so you know, it says it can't resolve admin: | 18:33 |
| davepigott | * getaddrinfo(3) failed for admin:80 | 18:33 |
| davepigott | * Couldn't resolve host 'admin' | 18:33 |
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| notmyname | davepigott: try this `curl -i -H "X-Auth-User: admin:admin" -H "X-Auth-Key: admin" http://127.0.0.1:8080/auth/v1.0` | 18:35 |
| notmyname | slightly modified version of your command | 18:35 |
| davepigott | HTTP/1.1 200 OK | 18:35 |
| davepigott | X-Storage-Url: http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/AUTH_admin | 18:35 |
| davepigott | X-Storage-Token: AUTH_tk1c2bc30e07d749b49ec4aa57430a106a | 18:35 |
| davepigott | X-Auth-Token: AUTH_tk1c2bc30e07d749b49ec4aa57430a106a | 18:35 |
| davepigott | Content-Length: 0 | 18:35 |
| davepigott | Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:35:24 GMT | 18:35 |
| notmyname | davepigott: so it worked. now use the X-Auth-Token value for subsequent requests: `curl -i -H "X-Auth-Token: AUTH_tk1c2bc30e07d749b49ec4aa57430a106a" http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/AUTH_admin | 18:36 |
| notmyname | and have fun | 18:36 |
| davepigott | notmyname: Thanks! But why did that command fail when it worked previously? And the response from the original was a lot longer (as per the doc)? | 18:37 |
| notmyname | not sure. you should use X-Auth-Token/X-Auth-User/X-Auth-Key instead of the X-Storage-* ones. those are depricated | 18:38 |
| davepigott | notmyname: Ah. I did do an apt-get upgrade. Could that explain it? | 18:39 |
| notmyname | davepigott: it shouldn't have affected anything with swift. we haven't (ever) made any backwards-incompatible changes | 18:39 |
| davepigott | notmyname: Oh. OK. Put it down to weirdness | 18:40 |
| davepigott | notmyname: It worked! Brilliant. Thanks a lot! | 18:41 |
| warik | notmyname: hi! have you worked on a multiple nodes swift env. before? | 18:42 |
| notmyname | warik: heh, ya :-) I'm on the cloud files team at rackspace. we run several swift clusters with thousands of nodes | 18:43 |
| warik | oh! well! Hello sir :) | 18:43 |
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| notmyname | thanks for the chuckle ;-) | 18:44 |
| notmyname | warik: something I can help with? | 18:44 |
| warik | notmyname :) I am not suck or anything, I will deploy soon a 5 nodes swift cluster and I have a question regarding the zones | 18:45 |
| notmyname | ok | 18:45 |
| davepigott | notmyname: Quick question... | 18:45 |
| warik | ok, what strategy should I use to create my zones? should I have multiple XFS partitions on each of my nodes and assign these partitions to a zones OR only one big partition divided in multiples one? | 18:46 |
| warik | (although, i am not sure that is really clear...) | 18:47 |
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| davepigott | notmyname: In the document it says in nova.conf put --glance_api_servers to point at the main node, but I can't find any documentation on that. And in one place it seems to imply it should point at the other node. | 18:48 |
| warik | in another words, what do you recommend in term of "zoning" and "partitioning" on the storage node | 18:48 |
| warik | thanks | 18:48 |
| davepigott | notmyname: No wait. It seems to be saying that the main server points at the compute node and the compute node points at the main server | 18:49 |
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| davepigott | notmyname: 2.2.6.2 and 2.3.4 sections in the doc | 18:49 |
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| davepigott | notmyname: What's the real story on that parameter? | 18:50 |
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| notmyname | warik: zones should be as distinct as your deployment allows. it's probably a bad idea to slice a single box into multiple zones (normally). with 5 servers, I'd set one zone per server | 18:51 |
| notmyname | or you could add one more box and do 3 zones of 2 servers | 18:52 |
| notmyname | warik: the point is that each of the three replicas will never be in the same zone. so the zone becomes your failure isolation. set it as high as you can (cabinet, DC room, DC, region, etc) | 18:52 |
| warik | notmyname: ok! that makes sense! thanks! | 18:53 |
| notmyname | warik: oh, and you should only have one filesystem partition per drive | 18:53 |
| notmyname | well, at least with swift | 18:53 |
| warik | alright! | 18:54 |
| notmyname | davepigott: ahhh, sorry. I don't know enough about nova to help with configuration | 18:54 |
| davepigott | notmyname: No worries. Thanks a lot for all your help! | 18:54 |
| notmyname | warik: splitting a drive into 2 mount points (ie 2 partitions) adds complexity and doesn't get you any extra availability or durability (since it's still the same physical disk) | 18:55 |
| warik | notmyname: does a configuration, sda1 (system files) sda2 (XFS for swift) works well? Or only one big partition? | 18:55 |
| warik | ok! | 18:55 |
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| notmyname | warik: we run our nodes with an OS drive (or volume, could be RAID'ed drives) and then a bunch of disks for swift data (normally no RAID, but JBOD) | 18:56 |
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| warik | notmyname: interesting | 18:57 |
| notmyname | warik: how much storage will your cluster have? (if you can share that) | 19:00 |
| warik | that will be 5 servers 1.7T each (but probably 3 servers for now) | 19:01 |
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| notmyname | warik: there's somthing else I should point out about swift zones | 19:02 |
| notmyname | warik: you grow your swift cluster by either adding to zone equally or adding a new zone the same size as the existing ones (ie zones need to be the same size) | 19:02 |
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| warik | notmyname: that is really interesting! what happens if you want to add more space to your zones? you have to delete the zones and re-create them ? | 19:03 |
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| zynzel | warik: you can add new node to zone with higher weight (for example 200) | 19:05 |
| jcapel | why do the zones need to be the same size? we have 5 zones and 6 servers, although the balance is not perfect it works well enough | 19:05 |
| zynzel | rebalance ring and remove 'small' node, after replication | 19:05 |
| warik | zynzel: got it! thanks! | 19:06 |
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| zynzel | but also you can have mixed setup, with small and big nodes in zone. | 19:07 |
| zynzel | as jcapel says. | 19:07 |
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| warik | zynzel: that make sense, specially if you need to add more space | 19:07 |
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| warik | thanks guys! | 19:08 |
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| zynzel | np ;) | 19:08 |
| jcapel | we have zones set up per-switch btw | 19:08 |
| AndrewWeiss | hey guys, was wondering if anyone could help me out with a swift/keystone authentication issue | 19:09 |
| jcapel | and we found free rack space in the datacenter here-and-there to put the swift cluster nodes in, nicely spread out | 19:09 |
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| notmyname | warik: actually, that's not quite right | 19:10 |
| notmyname | zynzel: ^ | 19:10 |
| notmyname | warik: zynzel: the weight is set on drives, not zones | 19:10 |
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| zynzel | jcapel: what hardware you use on storage node? i have to choose between ssd and sas hdd. | 19:10 |
| jcapel | for the storage nodes we use 2TB SAS disks | 19:11 |
| jcapel | but we have container and account services on corsair force 3 SSDs | 19:11 |
| notmyname | jcapel: if the zones are the same size, then it will use the space more efficiently | 19:11 |
| zynzel | notmyname: yes, but if you need 'resize' zone, you can add new node with big weight | 19:11 |
| jcapel | the 7200rpm disks could not keep up with the container and account i/o | 19:11 |
| zynzel | and after replication, remove small nodes. | 19:11 |
| notmyname | jcapel: +1 to SSDs for account+container | 19:12 |
| jcapel | yeah it was just not doable without SSDs | 19:12 |
| jcapel | we host a lot of very small files | 19:12 |
| jcapel | we're experimenting with the flashcache module for the object servers | 19:13 |
| notmyname | zynzel: ya, but then if you have 3 zones where one is twice as big, you'll "fill up" before the big zone gets full | 19:13 |
| jcapel | if you plan on keep adding servers as the cluster grows I don't think that's big deal | 19:13 |
| zynzel | notmyname: imho any change in one zone, should lead to change in every zone | 19:14 |
| notmyname | zynzel: agreed | 19:14 |
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| praefect | hey guys just a quick question, if openstack is using virtio for disks, why doesn't the qemu-kvm command line (ps -ef) reflect that... it says if=none and not if=virtio | 19:14 |
| praefect | how can I confirm it uses virtio? | 19:15 |
| praefect | for disks | 19:15 |
| warik | zynzel: how do you defining the "weight" ? | 19:15 |
| zynzel | warik: swift-ring-builder ring add zNUM-IP:PORT/DEV_COM weight | 19:16 |
| warik | zynzel: got it | 19:16 |
| zynzel | or simply swift-ring-builder ring set_weight SEARCH_PATERN NEW_WEIGHT | 19:16 |
| termie | BasTichelaar: the work is now being done on the redux branch of keystone | 19:16 |
| praefect | in the diablo doc, the section about windows image says: start your instance with kvm (blablabla) if=virtio... but still, on a running openstack node, all the qemu-kvm lines have if=none | 19:16 |
| termie | BasTichelaar: and ayoung is working on ldap stuff | 19:16 |
| warik | notmyname: another one… how should I split up the container / object node? | 19:17 |
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| phschwartz|rem | Afternoon | 19:18 |
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| * davepigott notmyname: Any indeed anyone: I got everything back up and running and then when I started an instance and tried to attach to it via ssh it wouldn't. I assume I should use ssh myusername@instance.ip.address. Then I read that I had to do a "euca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default", which I did on the main cloud server, and nova-network died. When I try to restart it, I get this in the log file: | 19:30 | |
| davepigott | (nova): TRACE: Command: sudo vconfig add br100 100 | 19:30 |
| davepigott | (nova): TRACE: Exit code: 3 | 19:30 |
| davepigott | (nova): TRACE: Stdout: '' | 19:30 |
| davepigott | (nova): TRACE: Stderr: 'ERROR: trying to add VLAN #100 to IF -:br100:- error: No such device\n' | 19:30 |
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| davepigott | This is where I was before when it all went wrong, because I added br100 as a network bridge and then the server just died. | 19:31 |
| davepigott | Any ideas? | 19:31 |
| mjfork | davepigott: look in nova.conf, what is your vlan_interface | 19:32 |
| mjfork | is it br100? | 19:32 |
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| davepigott | mjfork: Yep | 19:36 |
| mjfork | that needs ot be an eth* device | 19:36 |
| mjfork | that doc is broken | 19:36 |
| mjfork | opened a bug report, can't find it now | 19:36 |
| davepigott | mjfork: ****! | 19:36 |
| davepigott | Which one? eth1 or eth0 | 19:36 |
| mjfork | depends | 19:36 |
| mjfork | which do you want the vlan on | 19:36 |
| davepigott | eth1 | 19:36 |
| davepigott | answered my own question. :) | 19:36 |
| mjfork | yes | 19:37 |
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| mjfork | so, you need to update the DB too | 19:37 |
| mjfork | get into my sql DB | 19:37 |
| mjfork | SELECT vlan_interface FROM networks; | 19:37 |
| davepigott | Using postgres | 19:38 |
| mjfork | ok | 19:38 |
| mjfork | either way | 19:38 |
| davepigott | ok | 19:38 |
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| davepigott | mjfork: Says relation networks doesn't exist | 19:41 |
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| mjfork | \dt | 19:42 |
| mjfork | or, it may be in a schema | 19:42 |
| mjfork | \dn i think? | 19:42 |
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| davepigott | Says there's one schema called public. Doesn't work if I say 'select vlan_interface from public' | 19:44 |
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| mjfork | \dt networks | 19:46 |
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| mjfork | \dt show anything? | 19:46 |
| mjfork | are you in the right DB? | 19:46 |
| davepigott | not a seasoned postgres user so no idea. :) | 19:47 |
| mjfork | so why postgres over mysql :-P | 19:48 |
| mjfork | select datname from pg_database; | 19:48 |
| mjfork | run that | 19:48 |
| davepigott | mjfork: It's ok we worked it out. It's \c. Postgres because that's the db the team use that the team who are going to use this already know | 19:49 |
| davepigott | So do I go into nova as the db? | 19:49 |
| mjfork | no sure, so are you connected to the right DB? | 19:50 |
| zynzel | davepigott: \l | 19:50 |
| davepigott | mjfork: I'm connected to the nova db, and it says vlan_interface column doesn't exist | 19:50 |
| zynzel | davepigott: and then probably \c nova | 19:50 |
| mjfork | \d networks | 19:50 |
| mjfork | davepigott: what do you see for *_interface columns? | 19:51 |
| davepigott | mjfork: Only bridge_interface | 19:51 |
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| mjfork | ok, thats it | 19:52 |
| mjfork | SELECT bridge_interface FROM networks; | 19:52 |
| mjfork | what do you see | 19:52 |
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| davepigott | br100 | 19:52 |
| mjfork | ok | 19:53 |
| mjfork | UPDATE networks SET bridge_interface = 'eth1'; | 19:53 |
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| mjfork | restart nova-network | 19:54 |
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| davepigott | mjfork: ok... | 19:54 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: a question about instance images | 19:55 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: I have OS images in swift. | 19:55 |
| davepigott | mjfork: Yay! It's staying up!! | 19:55 |
| davepigott | \o/ | 19:55 |
| davepigott | mjfork: Thanks a lot. :) | 19:55 |
| mjfork | good | 19:55 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: whats up | 19:55 |
| notmyname | warik: sorry for the delay. we had a fire alarm | 19:56 |
| warik | notmyname: no problem | 19:56 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: hello | 19:56 |
| notmyname | warik: how to split containers and objects? | 19:56 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: mjfork: is it possible to use swift containers for storing computer node disk images which can be seen at /var/lib/nova/instances/_base | 19:56 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: no, not running VMs, just images which can be downlaoded to the location | 19:56 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: so in prdouction what is recommened? | 19:57 |
| notmyname | warik: in what way do you mean how to split them? | 19:57 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: i mean whats the typical method | 19:57 |
| warik | notmyname: yes, I just want to setup this swift cluster the most efficient way | 19:57 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: what do you mean? in production you run your VM on block devices like hardrives | 19:58 |
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| mjfork | that directory cuold be NFS if you want to do live migration | 19:58 |
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| notmyname | warik: as always, it depends on your use case. will you have large containers? small objects? large objects? mostly GETs? mostly PUTs? | 19:59 |
| notmyname | warik: however... | 19:59 |
| ppradhan | ppradhan: ok | 19:59 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: ok | 19:59 |
| warik_ | notmyname: that will be mostly get and the object size will be between 5go up to 40go | 20:00 |
| notmyname | warik: long-term scalability in swift is helped if you run each part on optimized hardware (ie instead of "good enough" hardware for everything) | 20:00 |
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| notmyname | warik: side note, you're aware of swift's 5GB/object limit with the ability to support larger file sizes by using a large-object manifest? | 20:00 |
| warik_ | I read about that yes | 20:01 |
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| notmyname | warik: for a large-scale cluster, I'd recommend running on 2 hardware SKUs: a) proxy + object servers optimized for CPU+RAM+dense storage and b) account+container servers optimized for IOPS(+RAM) | 20:02 |
| notmyname | warik: but you're only talking about <10TB, right? | 20:03 |
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| warik | notmyname: yes, the images/files will be less than 10TB | 20:03 |
| warik | the max size will be maybe 50 go | 20:04 |
| notmyname | warik: how many objects do you expect to have in one container? | 20:04 |
| warik | notmyname: that I don't really know at this point | 20:05 |
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| warik | I don't have a really good idea of the final infrastructure | 20:06 |
| notmyname | warik: can you realistically keep it below, say, 1 million objects per contianer? | 20:06 |
| warik | notmyname: sure | 20:06 |
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| notmyname | warik: do you need HA for the proxies (ie 100% uptime)? | 20:07 |
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| notmyname | (obviously you want as good as you can get, but better == more $) | 20:07 |
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| gilbakrunk | Hi. Question: Since non nova-volume disks (i.e disks that reside on the compute nodes) are ephemeral, I don't see any disadvandage (from a safety point of view) to using cache=writeback. Is this correct? | 20:08 |
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| notmyname | warik: and what do you expect your req/sec to be? | 20:09 |
| warik | notmyname: I thought the multiple zone will the "ha" for now | 20:09 |
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| gilbakrunk | I mean, why wouldn't I use cache=writeback with qcow2 images instead of default of writethrough | 20:09 |
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| ppradhan | mjfork: what flag should we use to change this defaul location /var/lib/nova/instances/_base | 20:10 |
| ppradhan | ? | 20:10 |
| notmyname | warik: yes, that will ensure availability and durability for the storage nodes. for the proxies, though (which don't have to be running on the same box), you could have either just one or multiple behind a load balancer. just one is simpler, but you don't have the failover | 20:10 |
| mjfork | ppradhan: doin't change it, just symlink or mount the storage you want there | 20:11 |
| ppradhan | mjfork: ok | 20:11 |
| warik | notmyname: oh yes, i have the second proxy server in mind | 20:11 |
| warik | but for now, I will just setup on | 20:11 |
| warik | one | 20:11 |
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| warik | notmyname: I have to read a little more about all the components.. :) | 20:13 |
| warik | do you think, 1 proxy + 2 or 3 storage servers are fair enough to start? | 20:13 |
| notmyname | warik: for a small HA cluster (which is what you are describing), you could probably pretty easily get away with running everything on 4 boxes. then load balance however many of the proxies you need (2-all 4) | 20:13 |
| notmyname | warik: you need 3 minimum, and 4+ is recommended | 20:14 |
| warik | for the storage node you mean? 4 storages and 1 proxy | 20:14 |
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| notmyname | warik: no. have 5 boxes. run everything (proxy+account+container+object) on each of them. then run your load balancer configured to talk to 2-5 of the proxies (depending on how much traffic you have) | 20:16 |
| warik | oh! | 20:16 |
| warik | that will be 5 zones then | 20:17 |
| notmyname | warik: right | 20:17 |
| warik | ok | 20:17 |
| notmyname | warik: probably for your use case you won't need to split the account+container servers | 20:17 |
| notmyname | warik: of course, you know your use case better than me | 20:17 |
| warik | notmyname :) sure but I really appreciate your help | 20:18 |
| notmyname | warik: if you did want to separate them, you'd need at least 3, and that gets proportionally very expensive when your only talking about 10TB total | 20:18 |
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| warik | notmyname: that makes sense | 20:20 |
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| notmyname | warik: FWIW, you should be able to support around 1K req/sec/proxy in a "normal" (ie non-optimized) setup | 20:23 |
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| warik | that's fair! Regarding the load balancer for the proxies? do you have recommandation | 20:25 |
| warik | *recommendation ? | 20:25 |
| gilbakrunk | Anyone? Qcow2, writeback vs writethrough for ephemeral storage? | 20:26 |
| notmyname | warik: zeus (commercial, called something else now; it's what we use at rackspace) or pound (free). you need your load balancer to terminate SSL. nginx is a bad choice because it spools to disk | 20:26 |
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| warik | alright! i'll keep that in mind! | 20:27 |
| warik | notmyname: that's a ton for your time! | 20:28 |
| notmyname | warik: np. once you get your cluster up and running, I'd love to be able to read about it online | 20:28 |
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| warik | notmyname: I'll let you know how it goes for sure! | 20:28 |
| notmyname | cool | 20:28 |
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| warik | :) | 20:29 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #928855 in openstack-manuals "Install glance registry conf file fix" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/928855 | 20:30 |
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| gilbakrunk | Does anyone use cache=writeback with QCow2/KVM? | 20:43 |
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| mutex | Hi, I'm just installed the dodi deployer on a machine | 21:25 |
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| mutex | I guess I am a bit confused about what a 'proposal' is | 21:26 |
| mutex | I am trying to get a simple nova,swift,glance stack installed on one piece of hardware and do some provisioning tests | 21:26 |
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| davepigott | notmyname: mjfork: anybody. I now have openstack up and running, and I did the magic runes to allow icmp and tcp, but I can't ping or ssh onto the instance that is running (from client or server). Any idea what I might have missed? I assume the magic runes are run on the server and not the client, since the client can already ssh | 21:34 |
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| davepigott | jamespage: ^ | 21:37 |
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| mjfork | davepigott: connect to the isntance via VNC and see if it actually got an IP | 21:39 |
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| mjfork | annegentle: did i see a call for translators yesterday some place? | 21:40 |
| davepigott | mjfork: If I do a describe-instance it says it has one. Is that not the same? | 21:40 |
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| mjfork | no | 21:40 |
| davepigott | mjfork: How do I vnc into it? | 21:40 |
| mjfork | that was allocated by openstack, but doesn't mean the machine sucessfully picked it up | 21:40 |
| davepigott | Ah right | 21:41 |
| mjfork | virsh list | 21:41 |
| mjfork | virsh dumpxml <instance id> | grep vnc | 21:41 |
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| dspano | davepigott: When that happens to me, there's usually something in the nova-network logs. | 21:42 |
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| mjfork | or nova-compute logs as well | 21:42 |
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| davepigott | dspano: mjfork OK. I'll play with it. Have to run to a meeting. Thanks for your help! | 21:42 |
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| mjfork | np | 21:43 |
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| gilbakrunk | Hi, does anyone use cache=writeback with QCow2/KVM? I can't think of a reason why not to do that for ephemeral storage. Thanks in advance. | 21:44 |
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| aliguori | gilbakrunk, it all depends on what your expectations of "ephemeral" are. if it's truly ephemeral, you might as well use cache=unsafe | 21:45 |
| gilbakrunk | aliguori: I've never heard of cache=unsafe. This is a valid cache option with qcow2? | 21:46 |
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| aliguori | yes | 21:47 |
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| gilbakrunk | aliguori: With Openstack, my expectations with ephemeral is that I lose all data if in case of a failure. Nothing more. Nothing less. | 21:47 |
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| aliguori | gilbakrunk, then cache=unsafe would be the fastest option | 21:48 |
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| aliguori | gilbakrunk, although one thing to keep in mind, cache=writeback/unsafe allows a guest to generate a lot of dirty page cache entries | 21:48 |
| gilbakrunk | aliguori: Yup thought of that. More memory pressure on the host | 21:49 |
| aliguori | and dirty-page cache entries is a globally controlled setting, so one guest can potentially generate lots of memory pressure | 21:49 |
| aliguori | yeah | 21:49 |
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| gilbakrunk | aliguori: I think it's worth a try though. | 21:49 |
| aliguori | i've seen OOMs from this before | 21:49 |
| gilbakrunk | Thanks for the heads up | 21:49 |
| aliguori | but it's under very synthetic, heavily loaded environments | 21:49 |
| aliguori | np | 21:50 |
| gilbakrunk | That's similar to the POC workload that I've got right now | 21:50 |
| gilbakrunk | And BTW: Should I have other expectations from ephemeral? | 21:50 |
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| gilbakrunk | aliguori: Thanks for your help. It's much appreciated. | 21:55 |
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| Pr0toc0l | hello all... | 21:55 |
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| Pr0toc0l | quick question on nova-compute and iptables....is a flat file used to store the iptables rules when ip addresses are associated to an instance? | 21:56 |
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| davepigott | mjfork: dspano: The network log seems to be hanging at "Attempting to grab semaphore "get_dhcp" for method "_get_dhcp_ip"…". In the log I see messages of the type: "WARNING nova.network.manager [-] No fixed IPs for instance x", but not in the case of every instance. The nova-compute log doesn't seem to change when I start and stop instances. | 22:15 |
| mjfork | are you out of fixed ips? | 22:16 |
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| davepigott | mjfork: I have yet to allocate one IP, so unless I have zero, no | 22:17 |
| davepigott | mjfork: And it's floating in this instance | 22:18 |
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| mjfork | veirfy you have an unalllocated floating ip | 22:19 |
| mjfork | do you have autoassign on? seem to recall that being broken in diablo | 22:19 |
| davepigott | mjfork: Hmm. Where's that set? | 22:19 |
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| davepigott | mjfork: How do I get the allocation/free list? | 22:20 |
| davepigott | mjfork: Also, the instances always come up pending. I have to reboot them to get them to a running state | 22:21 |
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| mjfork | davepigott: sorry, neeed to run now. i believe the reboot was resolved a hile back | 22:24 |
| dspano | I had to go into the fixed_ips table and set the reserved and allocated ips to false. Not sure if that was the proper way to do things. Wouldn't necessarily do it that way in production, but I'm still testing. | 22:24 |
| mjfork | are yuo on standard PPA packages? | 22:24 |
| davepigott | mjfork: yes | 22:24 |
| davepigott | mjfork: No worries. You've been a great help | 22:25 |
| davepigott | dspano: Where's that done? | 22:25 |
| dspano | davepigott: In the database. | 22:25 |
| mjfork | standard PPA packages have lots of problems | 22:26 |
| davepigott | dspano: Oh. Right | 22:26 |
| mjfork | i strongly recommand Kiall's PPA respotiory at https://github.com/managedit/ | 22:26 |
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| davepigott | When I do nova-manage floating list I get a list 192.168.2.x. The IP it says when I look at the instance is 192.168.4.x - that's odd | 22:26 |
| davepigott | mjfork: OK. I'll look at it. Thanks | 22:27 |
| mjfork | floating ips are different than private | 22:27 |
| davepigott | mjfork: Ah. ok | 22:27 |
| mjfork | every isntance gets a fixed IP | 22:27 |
| mjfork | floating ones are assigned on demand, not automateically | 22:27 |
| dspano | You can query your fixed ips with nova-manage fixed list | 22:29 |
| davepigott | dspano: Yeah, with that I get the 192.168.2.x list | 22:30 |
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| dspano | davepigott: Is 192.168.4.0/24 supposed to be your floating ips? | 22:30 |
| davepigott | dspano: I have no idea where that number came from | 22:31 |
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| davepigott | dspano: When I created the floating list I set it to 192.168.2.0/24 | 22:37 |
| dspano | Are your fixed and floating on the same subnet? | 22:38 |
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| dspano | davepiggott: Sorry, I'm toggling back in forth between windows. Looking back at your original log entry. You said it wasn't doing it with every instance correct? | 22:41 |
| dspano | davepiggott: When that happened to me, it was because some fixed ips never got unreserved in the fixed_ips table, but the dnsmasq server was leasing them anyway. | 22:42 |
| dspano | davepiggott: I don't remember this being a problem when I was using just a single network controller. I think it may have had to do with using multi-host. | 22:43 |
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| davepigott | dspano: No problem. I'm doing the same. Hmm. But even when an ip address *seems* to be assigned, I just can't ping or ssh to it, and vcn shows no instances | 22:43 |
| dspano | davepiggott: My quick fix was unreserving them and restarting the network controller. I still haven't had time to research enough to see if anyone found a permanent solution. | 22:43 |
| davepigott | dspano: How do I unreserve them? In the db? | 22:44 |
| davepigott | dspano: Which db/table/column? | 22:45 |
| dspano | davepiggott: After you do unreserve the offending ips, I would stop nova-network, run 'killall dnsmasq' then restart it. | 22:45 |
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| davepigott | dspano: Yeah, I've seen that suggested before. Do I have to kill the instance and its image | 22:46 |
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| davepigott | dspano: But how do I unreserve the ips?? | 22:46 |
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| davepigott | dspano: Oh. Wait. Just reading the network management stuff. May know what's happening | 22:47 |
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| dspano | davepiggot: The proper way is to use nova-manage fixed unreserve. | 22:48 |
| archit_ | Could anybody , say how can we hardly enter a floating IP to an instance .. than auto allocation .. | 22:49 |
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| dspano | davepiggott: The hard way is logging into your database and running update fixed_ips set reserved=false where address=<address your having trouble with>. | 22:51 |
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| dspano | davepiggot: Good luck. I've gotta run before my wife kills me. I'll be on tomorrow if you need anymore help. | 22:56 |
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| warik | notmyname: real quick, what the "workers" flag stands for in the swift config files? | 23:47 |
| notmyname | warik: how many child processes are forked to do work. 1 per core is a good starting point | 23:48 |
| warik | thanks! | 23:48 |
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