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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939122 in nova "floating ips do not display in 'nova list' after association to instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939122 | 00:11 |
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Ryan_Lane | I'm using the simple scheduler. If I want to switch to some scheduler that will actually take resources into account, do I need to do anything other than just changing my configuration? | 00:12 |
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Kyle___ | Can you add multiple pools of floating addresses? | 00:21 |
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Kyle__ | Networking questions: can you add mulitple pools of floating addresses? | 00:32 |
anotherjesse | Kyle__: in essex yes | 00:32 |
Kyle__ | Can you use openstack on a subnet with a DHCP server? | 00:32 |
Kyle__ | anotherjesse: K. Thanks. | 00:32 |
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anotherjesse | Kyle__: the question about subnet & dhcp is ambiguous | 00:33 |
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Kyle__ | anotherjesse: OK. The dnsmasq processes that start with your instances. Do those only communicate with VM instances, or are they available across the physical local network. | 00:35 |
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anotherjesse | Kyle__: what network mode? flatdhcp? | 00:36 |
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Kyle__ | anotherjesse: Which flag in nova.conf specifys that? network_manage? dhcpbridge? | 00:38 |
Kyle__ | network_manager rather. | 00:38 |
Kyle__ | My current setup is dhcpbridge=/usr/bin/nova-dhcpbridge, network_manager=nova.network.manager.VlanManager. But I'd love a simpler setup to be honest (just following getting started docs now). | 00:38 |
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anotherjesse | Kyle__: vlan manager is complicated | 00:40 |
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anotherjesse | it means each tenant (project in nova) is a different VM | 00:41 |
anotherjesse | Kyle__: have you seen devstack? | 00:41 |
Kyle__ | anotherjesse:nope. | 00:41 |
anotherjesse | Kyle__: are you trying to deploy diablo or essex? | 00:41 |
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Kyle__ | anotherjesse: diablo. Is essex newer/less buggy/ihopetogodlesscomplicatedtogetstartedwith? | 00:42 |
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anotherjesse | Kyle__: so - imo the simplest way to get start is to install devstack (devstack.org) on a single ubuntu oneric box | 00:46 |
anotherjesse | then based on your learnings decide how you want to deploy in production | 00:46 |
Kyle__ | actualy wait... how do you get it to report the version? I'm not trusting myself anymore. | 00:47 |
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anotherjesse | a distro / product / your own packages / ... | 00:47 |
anotherjesse | essex is currently "in development" | 00:47 |
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Kyle__ | OK. I found some docs on managedit. How does that compare to devstack? Good bad same? | 00:48 |
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anotherjesse | devstack is what various devs use, and is what the project uses to gate merges | 00:49 |
anotherjesse | but isn't meant for production | 00:49 |
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Kyle__ | ah. | 00:50 |
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Kyle__ | So, assuming I went with the flat DHCP mode, how would things work? Would each vm get an ip from some openstack process, or would it get an ip from whichever dhcp server is serving the local network? | 01:00 |
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multinode-trying | Hello, I'm trying multinode settings using griddydynamics diablo repo. Compute node with Controller can boot instances, but single Compute node can't. Where should I check? nova-manage service list is smiley and there's no error in nova-compute.log of single Compute node(except nova delete, says "No such file or directory"). | 02:07 |
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neo_skull | Hey I have been getting an error importing middleware, "cannot import name client" has anyone else faced this issue? | 05:14 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #843055 in keystone "Content compression" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/843055 | 05:23 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939247 in devstack "did not checkout to new branch if repo already exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939247 | 05:31 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939252 in nova "libvirt OVS vif-plugging broken on Red Hat / Fedora" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939252 | 05:55 |
uvirtbot` | New bug: #939254 in nova "No test coverage for libvirt vif plugging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939254 | 06:02 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939257 in glance "container_format is not mandatory in glance add" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939257 | 06:11 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939269 in openstack-manuals "ID needs to be replaced by UUID in API documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939269 | 06:36 |
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Adri2000 | I wonder if some people have tried running nova-compute on diskless machines? | 08:45 |
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mecenesiak | http://www.sadistic.pl/nie-zasypiaj-na-imprezie-w-akademiku-vt105256.htm | 08:50 |
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heyho | Hello.. does anybody know how to change the default keymap in libvirt and vnc? I mean, kvm process has "-k =en-us" libvirt.xml has keymap="en-us" in vnc proprieties .. how do I change these values? | 09:21 |
tjoy | heyho: i've been told that you can specify a template libvirt definition file | 09:21 |
tjoy | which is where that directive would live | 09:21 |
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heyho | tjoy: I actually find a libvirt.xml.template in three different nova folders (/usr/share/pyshared/nova/virt/libvirt.xml.template, /usr/lib/python2.7 (and python2.6)/dist-packages/nova/virt/libvirt.xml.template) but i find a "keymap='${vnc_keymap}'" where does it get the ${vnc_keymap] from? | 09:24 |
tjoy | hm | 09:25 |
tjoy | i don't know, but i can guess | 09:25 |
tjoy | try putting the directive '--vnc_keymap' in nova.conf | 09:26 |
heyho | thanks, I'll try that | 09:26 |
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tjoy | the quick and dirty way would be to replace '${vnc_keymap}' in libvirt.xml.template | 09:28 |
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tjoy | but the fact that it's parameterized does indicate that there is another, right way | 09:29 |
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heyho | yes.. that's why i wanted to leave it unchanged | 09:32 |
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Razique | oi all :D | 09:33 |
epic | is there any ubuntu essex package repositories available? | 09:34 |
tjoy | for diablo there was a PPA that contained milestone releases | 09:34 |
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heyho | tjoy: adding that flag in nova actually changed the values in xml! The bad thing is that the keys pressed are still messed up.. but it's a step forward, thanks | 09:38 |
tjoy | good, good | 09:38 |
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heyho | reading the console log of the new launched instance this remains "Generating locales... en_US.UTF-8... * Starting AppArmor profiles " Is there a way to change this? | 09:41 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #937554 in nova "Lots of problems with deleting a server immediately after create (dup-of: 934575)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/937554 | 09:42 |
tjoy | you may need to install the proper locale in a guest (via ssh?) and create another image | 09:42 |
tjoy | or do it through puppet | 09:42 |
tjoy | if you have puppet set up | 09:43 |
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heyho | Ok thanks for the advice | 09:45 |
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epic | tjoy: maybe this ? https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/+archive/openstack-milestone-testing | 09:50 |
tjoy | i would try that, or https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/+archive/openstack-stable-testing | 09:52 |
tjoy | not sure which release that is | 09:52 |
tjoy | epic: i would wait about 4 hours and then ask again when someone with a clue might be around | 09:52 |
epic | hehe ok | 09:53 |
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uksysadmin | g'day y'all | 10:05 |
epic | i'll ask u uksysadmin : is there any ubuntu essex package repositories available? | 10:07 |
epic | :) | 10:07 |
epic | i thought maybe this: https://launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/+archive/openstack-milestone-testing ? | 10:08 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939386 in nova "Console-Output does not escape XML correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939386 | 10:36 |
LarsErikP | anyone have experience with setting up O-S with xen? I don't manage to connect to the XenAPI using pam... http, says authentication failure, and https comes with some kind of ssl errors.. (no wonder, cause i've no set up ssl) | 10:39 |
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lxu_ | I'm having an error when trying to launch an image using dashboard: "Can not find requested image". I used the files templates of the new manual. | 11:15 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939417 in devstack "DevStack should set up metadata port forward in FlatManager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939417 | 11:43 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939440 in nova "issues on changing fixed-range in nova.conf file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939440 | 11:58 |
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Vadim2 | guys what hypervisors diablo fully support? | 12:21 |
LarsErikP | kvm | 12:24 |
LarsErikP | xen | 12:24 |
LarsErikP | ++ | 12:24 |
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LarsErikP | so.... XenAPI won't auth root.. created a new user, it auths but xend says (among some other API calls missing..) WARNING (XendAPI:708) API call: event.get_all not found | 13:07 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939480 in nova "network manager specific flags in vmwareapi readme need to be updated" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939480 | 13:11 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939481 in glance "glance image update via CLI does not support copy_from field" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939481 | 13:16 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939484 in glance "image size not set on update of queued image with location metadata " [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939484 | 13:20 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939486 in keystone "auth token try to connect with self.cert_file which does not exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939486 | 13:20 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939494 in keystone "Add logging of actions in token_auth " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939494 | 13:31 |
uvirtbot` | New bug: #939496 in openstack-ci "glance-tarball failing due to tox upgrade" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939496 | 13:31 |
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Adri2000 | in nova, does --auth_driver has any effect when --use_deprecated_auth=false ? | 13:48 |
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epic | is there some docs on how to install and run openstack from the git source? | 13:55 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939523 in keystone "[Keystone-manage] please give a nicer failure message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939523 | 14:11 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939531 in nova "[Nova-manage] please give a nicer failure message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939531 | 14:16 |
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LarsErikP | xen 4.1 is supported right? Keep on getting Failure: ['MESSAGE_METHOD_UNKNOWN', 'pool.get_all'] | 14:18 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939550 in melange "melange client gettext not installed" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939550 | 14:51 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939557 in nova "Files in vm sometimes zeroed after 'nova reboot'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939557 | 15:01 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939580 in nova "Network related cleanup might fail on instance deletion" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939580 | 15:31 |
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kirkland | mtaylor: ping | 15:33 |
aleixdorca | hi guys, let's see if someone can help me with a problem with vncproxy... is nova-consoleauth needed in essex? If so how do I install it/run it? | 15:33 |
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kbringard | does anyone have recommendations for RAID levels on compute nodes? | 15:45 |
kbringard | I was going to go with RAID10 for performance with redundancy, but wanted to know if anyone had opinions | 15:46 |
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uksysadmin | kbringard, personally RAID10 (min 4 disks) gives a lot for little gain in a cloud environment | 15:46 |
kbringard | uksysadmin: yea? | 15:47 |
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kbringard | so you think parity based, like 5 or 6? | 15:47 |
uksysadmin | what are you actually accounting for? I'd design my services to fail - in which case, paying out extra for highly available storage is overkill | 15:47 |
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uksysadmin | BUT - that's personal opinion for an environment where this is ok | 15:48 |
kbringard | well, my systems have 12 disks in them | 15:48 |
kbringard | and we're OK with failure | 15:48 |
kbringard | the env is built with the "throwaway servers" idea in mind | 15:48 |
kbringard | but at the same time, we don't want a single disk failure to take down an entire system | 15:48 |
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uksysadmin | mirror the disks, lvm group them accordingly - get space and some resilience | 15:49 |
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Kylie | Hi | 15:50 |
kbringard | so RAID1 with lvgroups | 15:50 |
uksysadmin | at the end of the day you want to account for a failure of a disk... chances of multiple failures? slimmer, but equally can bring down raid10 too if multiple disks go | 15:50 |
uksysadmin | kbringard, personally yes. | 15:50 |
uksysadmin | the only caveat is performance | 15:50 |
kbringard | yea, we were also considering raid10 with hot spares | 15:50 |
uksysadmin | openstack hits the disks hard with its dd, copies, deletes. | 15:51 |
kbringard | right, which is why I was looking at the striping and mirroring | 15:51 |
Kylie | Hello, I am trying to look in to security of openstack and dashboard. I am having a hard time finding any documentation. Could you guys help me out? :) | 15:51 |
uksysadmin | I guess I'm only jealous, we're a blade environment with little incentive to go with a jbod blade - so 2 disks at best ;-) | 15:51 |
phschwartz | in a vlan capable switch what settings are needed to allow vlan tagging with OS to work? | 15:51 |
kbringard | so I was considering array0 of 4 disks, array1 of 4 disks and 4 hsps | 15:51 |
uksysadmin | Kylie, what is there to know? | 15:51 |
kbringard | disks are 1TB each, so even with hotspares we still get ~4TB of raided space per compute | 15:52 |
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kbringard | bump that up to 6TB if you lose the hot spares | 15:52 |
uksysadmin | phschwartz, check out the networking documentation (apologies, not telling you to RTFM) but I'm guessing it explains what you need | 15:52 |
Kylie | How can I test the security of my openstack cloud / dashboard? | 15:52 |
kbringard | phschwartz: I don't know the exact commands, but you're basically going to need to trunk all VLANs you want to use as project VLANs to all your compute and network nodes | 15:53 |
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uksysadmin | Kylie, the dashboard is based on apache, so usual pentesting tools and pentesting proxy servers can help you there | 15:53 |
kbringard | on the interfaces which will carry the VLAN tagged traffic, so more or less what you're using as your bridge device | 15:53 |
uksysadmin | (I say based on apache, its installed through apache via mod_wsgi) | 15:54 |
phschwartz | kbringard: ty. that is what I was looking for. Time to tell the network team to do it. lol | 15:54 |
Kylie | Thank you. | 15:54 |
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uksysadmin | Kylie, for the openstack cloud stuff itself - they open up particular ports - usual testing of throwing good and bad traffic at it | 15:54 |
kbringard | phschwartz: no worries, yea, we basically define a range of VLANs to use as project VLANs ahead of time | 15:54 |
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uksysadmin | its mainly restful interface/webservices stuff - so go knock yourself out :) | 15:55 |
kbringard | uksysadmin: so, taking a step back, if your systems had 12 disks in them, would you consider raid10? | 15:55 |
uksysadmin | would I... not sure... I would've taken a step further back and not bought systems with 12 disks in! | 15:56 |
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uksysadmin | BUT - that's not your question - to take advantage - I'd certainly look at RAID10. If you're happy with the extra overhead of requiring 4 disks to do mirroring and the striping, it is the best use for resilience and performance | 15:57 |
uksysadmin | I think alternatives wouldn't take advantage of that amount of disks | 15:57 |
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uksysadmin | it would certainly cover you for disk failure - rather than it requiring immediate remedy to fix - you don't want to have to deal with that if you've got a large number of instances at stake on that box | 15:59 |
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FlipFlop_ | is ppa:openstack-core/trunk the correct ppa for Essex? I'm trying to install in Oneiric | 16:01 |
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lebowski | hi all | 16:07 |
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Kyle__ | kbringard: Late to the party, but I would not do raid 10 (1+0) with 12 discs, unless you know you need the performance gains. The administrative overhead is more severe than say, raid 5 + hot spares or raid 6. | 16:11 |
kbringard | Kyle__: even in a hardware RAID controller? | 16:12 |
kbringard | or do you mean like, in a failure scenario | 16:12 |
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Kyle__ | kbringard: Yes, in a hardware failure scenario. Also in the unlikely event of a double drive failure/second drive failing before first fail is recovered, you have a chance of being screwed. With the distributed parity of raid 5 and 6 I think the math works out to much less likely to be screwed. | 16:14 |
kbringard | Kyle__: yea, I hear ya | 16:14 |
kbringard | I'm trying to balance throwaway servers to performance | 16:14 |
Kyle__ | kbringard: I got sent to EMC training once upon a time (I was the backup to our normal SAN admin), and they went through all the math. But for something like DB logfiles, 1+0 is the only way to go. | 16:15 |
Kyle__ | you _really_ need the performance there. | 16:15 |
kbringard | I built the environment with the idea that if a server fails we leave it sitting there until N number fail then we call in the server vendor to replace them all at once | 16:15 |
kbringard | so it's built with failure assumed | 16:16 |
Kyle__ | Heh. That's both lazy and awesome. | 16:16 |
Spirilis | kbringard: does your HW raid controller support RAID6? | 16:16 |
kbringard | :-D | 16:16 |
kbringard | Spirilis: yea | 16:16 |
Spirilis | wouldn't use it if it's slow as crap, but, might be worth a test. | 16:16 |
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Spirilis | that'd be a balance between multiple-disk-failure resiliency and not wasting all those tons of disks | 16:16 |
kbringard | yea, well that's the trick, it's hard to test all the different VM scenarios | 16:16 |
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Spirilis | eh, I'd just do an iozone on the baremetal to test | 16:17 |
kbringard | mostly I just want to make sure I'm not going to be spinning up VMs and their disks are all latent | 16:17 |
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Spirilis | compare it to what you have now and ask yourself if that's unreasonable :) | 16:17 |
kbringard | fair enough, and at the end of the day I knew the answer was "just test it" | 16:17 |
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kbringard | but I figured I'd ask in case people were like "definitely use X, it's the only way to go" | 16:18 |
Spirilis | yeah like if RAID6 suddenly makes I/O's take 4 times the amount of time, that's kind've ridiculous | 16:18 |
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Spirilis | now the other thing to consider is if you do spin up a ton of VMs and expect them to actually do work, you may want to consider the RAID10 because of the inherently random I/O profile that will show up with that kind of load | 16:18 |
Spirilis | lots of VMs hitting their "disks" that live in different parts of the RAID, concurrently, isn't that different from database log I/O | 16:19 |
Spirilis | but if these mostly fire up, boot, then do most of their stuff over the network (NFS, http, whatever) it might not matter | 16:19 |
Spirilis | another option...... maybe create a RAID for the box's O/S and instance backing store, and another RAID for nova-volume use? | 16:20 |
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Spirilis | not sure if you have any nova-volume out there | 16:20 |
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kbringard | well, the OS is on an onboard SSD | 16:20 |
kbringard | then the raid is mostly just /var | 16:21 |
kbringard | logs are shipped elsewhere, so /var is more or less just for VMs | 16:21 |
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Spirilis | well if you have no use for nova-volume, ask yourself which you need more--the space, or the performance | 16:21 |
Spirilis | if it's space, use RAID6 imo, for performance use RAID10 and be happy | 16:22 |
kbringard | right, that's what I'm trying to figure out | 16:22 |
kbringard | hmmm, can I do iozone on a raw device, or do I need to partition and format it? | 16:22 |
lebowski | hi all, a quick question from a newbie. I have some older dell 2650 machines without virtualisation support. If I run them on te compute node, can I still run Centos guests? I presume that I need the virtualisation support for Windows guests only? | 16:22 |
Spirilis | partition... ideally mount it sync too, not async (which is the default) | 16:22 |
kbringard | kk | 16:22 |
kbringard | thanks | 16:22 |
Spirilis | that'll give you more reasonable write I/O stats | 16:23 |
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Spirilis | so the other thing I was going to suggest is do both-- a subset of the disks RAID6 for the /var, and the rest RAID10 for nova-volume | 16:23 |
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Spirilis | VMs boot up on their local disks but if they need some relatively fast disks, allocate nova-volume LUNs to them | 16:23 |
Spirilis | bad thing is if a server croaks its nova-volume LUNs are gone | 16:23 |
Spirilis | but, eh | 16:24 |
technologov_ | lebowski, it can run in Qemu (emulated) engine, but will be dog-slow for Windows guests. | 16:24 |
lebowski | cheers technol, will it be ok to run several centos guests? | 16:24 |
technologov_ | lebowski, you can get good perf from Linux guests (Xen PV) | 16:24 |
technologov_ | lebowski, using Xen PV engine | 16:25 |
lebowski | this is without the hardware support in the bios yes? | 16:25 |
technologov_ | yes | 16:25 |
lebowski | ie on an older cpu set | 16:25 |
lebowski | ok, I thought so, thanks mate, cheers | 16:25 |
kbringard | Spirilis: cool, thanks for the ideas | 16:25 |
kbringard | I'm going to start by doing some iozone tests on the various raid levels and see how that looks | 16:26 |
kbringard | http://paste.openstack.org/show/4962/ | 16:26 |
kbringard | that's on a single RAID10 | 16:26 |
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kbringard | http://paste.openstack.org/show/4963/ | 16:31 |
kbringard | and that's RAID6 | 16:31 |
kbringard | doesn't really seem like there's that much of a performance difference | 16:32 |
Spirilis | hmm | 16:32 |
Spirilis | how much RAM on the box? | 16:32 |
kbringard | 72GB | 16:32 |
Spirilis | ahh k | 16:33 |
kbringard | iozone -R -l 5 -u 5 -r 4k -s 100m -F /mnt/f1 /mnt/f2 /mnt/f3 /mnt/f4 /mnt/f5 | 16:33 |
kbringard | that's the command I used | 16:33 |
Spirilis | yeah I think your RAM is caching so much it doesn't even matter | 16:35 |
uvirtbot` | New bug: #939634 in openstack-ci "Swift Sphinx site won't build correctly without a docs/build directory present" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939634 | 16:35 |
kbringard | hehe | 16:35 |
kbringard | but once the machine is under load and the RAM is allocated to VMs that may change | 16:36 |
Spirilis | not sure if mounting sync mode avoids using the cache, guess not | 16:36 |
Spirilis | yeah | 16:36 |
kbringard | aiight, let me mess with this some more | 16:36 |
kbringard | thanks for your help/input | 16:36 |
kbringard | it's appreciated | 16:36 |
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Spirilis | can't remember offhand if there's an easy way to tweak the use of pagecache/buffercache, but I guess you could test it with hideously large files | 16:37 |
kbringard | hah | 16:37 |
Spirilis | either the -s or -g option, make it push 100GB or something | 16:37 |
kbringard | put 100GB files on there | 16:37 |
Spirilis | then let it run for a while :) | 16:37 |
kbringard | lol, yea | 16:37 |
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Spirilis | that should show up some metrics | 16:37 |
kbringard | yea, lets do it | 16:37 |
kbringard | iozone -R -l 5 -u 5 -r 4k -s 100g -F /mnt/f1 /mnt/f2 /mnt/f3 /mnt/f4 /mnt/f5 | 16:38 |
kbringard | hehe | 16:38 |
Spirilis | lol I remember doing some experiments like that with some 128GB RAM opterons at my last job, each box came with 4x300GB 15K rpm SAS disks and 4x500GB 7200rpm SAS | 16:38 |
Spirilis | was comparing the two with various iozone parameters | 16:38 |
kbringard | oh baby, make it hurt so good | 16:38 |
Spirilis | yeah the goal is to make it scream in agony and time the interval between exhaustions ;) | 16:38 |
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kbringard | Each process writes a 104857600 Kbyte file in 4 Kbyte records | 16:41 |
kbringard | haha | 16:41 |
kbringard | that's gotta hurt | 16:41 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939616 in glance "'module' object has no attribute 'DataInvalid'" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939616 | 16:43 |
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Glace_ | any good tools to mount openstack swift as a filesystem or as nfs? | 16:43 |
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notmyname | Glace_: there is cloudfuse, but it has limitations (speed, mostly) | 16:44 |
Glace_ | notmyname: thanks | 16:46 |
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mine | hi all, i have openstack on 3 nodes, when i try to ssh to an instance i receive no route to host. i try with ssh -i mykey root@10.0.0.11. Any ideas? | 16:54 |
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mine | hi all, i have openstack on 3 nodes, when i try to ssh to an instance i receive no route to host. i try with ssh -i mykey root@10.0.0.11. Any ideas? | 16:55 |
wabat | mine: I had this same type of issue with a recent setup using a VLAN config. What type of networking are you using? | 16:56 |
mine | vlan | 16:56 |
mine | i set it up on my wireless lan with vlan manager and using 192.168.1.1 | 16:57 |
mine | all services work fine...but i cant ping or ssh the instance | 16:58 |
wabat | mine: Did you go through the database setup as outlined in the Compute documentation on docs.openstack.org? | 16:58 |
kbringard | did you setup your authorize rules to allow ssh and ping? | 16:58 |
mine | yes to both | 16:58 |
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wabat | The reason I had this error was due to the way I had setup my NICs. Do you have eth0 or eth1 as your vlan interface? | 17:01 |
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mine | auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.107 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 | 17:02 |
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wabat | mine: What is the gateway on the cloud controller set to? | 17:03 |
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mine | in the db in the table networks is 10.0.0.1 | 17:06 |
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wabat | Okay, I have a different setup. I had to set the first 6 IPs of the network I specified to reserved according to the documentation. That would have made your gateway be 10.0.0.6 with a dhcp_start of 10.0.0.7. | 17:09 |
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wabat | Would it help you to see what my configuration looks like? | 17:10 |
wabat | I can put them on paste.openstack.org if you would like | 17:12 |
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mine | thx | 17:13 |
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wabat | mine: http://paste.openstack.org/show/4966/ That is what I have in my networks table for network id 1 | 17:15 |
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wabat | I am using the valn_interface flag so my traffic goes through eth1. It sound like you are not using this so yours should be fine set to eth0 | 17:16 |
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mine | i'm using eth0 and vlan...it's wrong? | 17:17 |
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kbringard | only you can answer that, it depends on how your network is setup | 17:18 |
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mine | wabat what interface is eth1? | 17:19 |
wabat | mine: That is being used in my setup. I specified the interface I wanted to use for traffic. By default, nova uses eth0 which is perfectly fine. | 17:21 |
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wabat | Once I set up the networks table in the database I restarted my nova processes. This created a bridge interface with my gateway IP and another interface for my first vlan 700 | 17:22 |
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wabat | I tested the config by making sure I could ping the gateway from my compute-node. If you have compute running on the same system as your controller you should be okay but I would test to make sure. | 17:23 |
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wabat | mine: This wireless lan you have uses vlan tagging? | 17:26 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939613 in keystone "update auth_token to support timeout with http_connect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939613 | 17:29 |
wabat | kbringard - Do you happen to know if there is a large repository of openstack images available to use? I'm looking for working versions of CentOS in particular. I've not been successful in getting the image on the eucalyptus site to work in my environment. | 17:29 |
kbringard | not really… Ubuntu are the only ones who reliably produce cloud images | 17:30 |
kbringard | I'd check out boxgrinder.org | 17:30 |
kbringard | makes it pretty easy to build your own | 17:30 |
kbringard | they even have a meta-appliance disk image that you can upload in to openstack and use | 17:30 |
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wabat | Yeah, I think I am going to have to take that route. Do you think a repository like that would be something of use to the community? I could probably provide space for something like that and make it available to all. | 17:32 |
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kbringard | I'm sure it would | 17:33 |
wabat | Is there anyone in particular I should coordinate with or would it suffice to just let everyone know in this channel once something like that could be made available. | 17:34 |
kbringard | yea… I'd probably start by just making it available | 17:34 |
kbringard | let people her eknow | 17:34 |
kbringard | send something to the list | 17:34 |
kbringard | and ask if they're interested in making it a "thing" | 17:35 |
kbringard | i'd wager probably it won't become an official thing | 17:35 |
kbringard | given the movement away from maintaining packages, etc | 17:35 |
kbringard | but it's the sort of thing that would do well on the wiki or something | 17:35 |
kbringard | just don't backdoor them ;-) | 17:35 |
wabat | hehe | 17:36 |
wabat | no worries there | 17:36 |
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kbringard | getting a boxgrinder flow setup is pretty easy | 17:37 |
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mtaylor | kirkland: pong | 17:37 |
wabat | I am working for a web service provider that is going to provide cloud services this year. We're currently getting our 10GB network in place with ASR 9000's. They are interested in working more with the openstack community and have let me know that we could provide storage to house images. | 17:39 |
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Mik656 | hi | 17:39 |
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Mik656 | I wanna know how to run devstack on Lucid | 17:40 |
Mik656 | can any body help me? | 17:40 |
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Mike656 | hi | 17:42 |
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RamonUK | swift is pretty cool by the way | 17:42 |
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Glace_ | RamonUK: agreed :) | 17:45 |
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mine | ok i don't understand | 17:48 |
mine | i cant ping or ssh the server => the problem is in the network configuration => what can i do to find the error? | 17:50 |
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wabat | mine: look at your logs in /var/log/nova | 17:52 |
mine | also...i have 172.0.17.133 ip in vpn_private_address. i have to change to my gateway? | 17:52 |
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wabat | I don't use the vpn_private_address at all in my configuration so for me it's a no. Are you using VPN in your setup? | 17:54 |
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ggi_ | mine: how do you know if your instance even got that fixed ip? can you ping it from the nova-compute node where the instance is running? try to connect to the console and see what is doing (hint: virsh list --all; virsh vncdisplay instance-0000XXX) | 17:58 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939699 in openstack-ci "client lib integration tests should hit multiple branches" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939699 | 18:01 |
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mine | no i don't use vpn...i can ping from compute node but if i try to connect i get connection reset by peer | 18:02 |
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wabat | Then as ggi_ had suggested I would connect to the node using virsh and check the networking setup | 18:05 |
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mine | from virsh i get :0 | 18:06 |
wabat | From that error it seems to be that the export of your display is not set to your local system. | 18:09 |
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kbringard | e4 was yesterday, right? | 18:14 |
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mine | wabat thx...i need to study admin guide better to understand how to set up the network. thx all | 18:16 |
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wabat | mine: no problem...I had to do the same to get my vlan config working correctly | 18:20 |
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csh-harmful | Trying to install openstack trunk on 12.04LTS , getting errors http://pastebin.ca/2121085 , should I switch to some king of stable ppa ? If so, which one? | 18:26 |
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shraddha | how to delete/remove network configured with nova-manage network create | 18:29 |
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zykes | shraddha, tried nova-manage network delete ? | 18:31 |
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shraddha | zykes: what are the arguments? | 18:32 |
zykes | shraddha, i think network numeric id | 18:32 |
shraddha | tried | 18:33 |
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shraddha | didnt work | 18:33 |
shraddha | let me check the logs | 18:33 |
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amadeus_ | . | 18:33 |
shraddha | zykes: nothing in the logs | 18:35 |
zykes | nova-manage help then ? | 18:35 |
zykes | google ? | 18:35 |
csh-harmful | Cocumentation is a bit confusing to me, 'controller' is a node which runs management interface and 'compute' one which actually runs VMs, right ? | 18:35 |
zykes | csh-harmful, correct | 18:36 |
zykes | though you can have multiple controllers :p | 18:36 |
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ggi_ | mine: use vncviewer to connect to the nova-compute_IP:5900 and you'll get the console of your VM | 18:39 |
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wabat | I though he tried and had a problem with his display. | 18:44 |
shraddha | zykes: i could delete the n/w bt br100 still shows same IP | 18:44 |
zykes | don't delete the br100 | 18:45 |
shraddha | zykes: no i did not. I tried restarting nova-network | 18:45 |
shraddha | but didnt work | 18:45 |
shraddha | should I just create another network? | 18:45 |
Mike656 | Can any one explain how nova interact with keystone? | 18:47 |
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Mike656 | It seems that nova has its own authentication manager | 18:47 |
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shraddha | Mike656: this is how u can check if keystone is working | 18:49 |
shraddha | curl -d '{"auth": {"tenantName": "adminTenant", "passwordCredentials":{"username": "adminUser", "password": "password"}}}' -H "Content-type: application/json" http://openstack1_IP:35357/v2.0/tokens | python -mjson.tool | 18:50 |
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davidkranz | Any one know how to assign a floating ip in the trystack dashboard? I don't see any UI for it. | 18:52 |
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ggi_ | Trystack allocated public IPs to each instance by default | 18:55 |
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mutex | is it possible for me to connect a VM to an arbitrary VLAN say that I have access to ? | 18:57 |
ggi_ | Trystack dashboard is missing volume, instance console and floating IP functionality | 18:57 |
koolhead17 | ggi_: http://www.capsunlock.net/2012/02/trystack-is-openstack-sandbox.html | 18:57 |
koolhead17 | this might help | 18:57 |
mutex | I only see descriptions of how to connect VMs to a network that nova manages | 18:57 |
* koolhead17 wonders if some admin can put this link to topic!! :) | 18:57 | |
davidkranz | ggi_: So how do I know what it's ip is? | 18:57 |
koolhead17 | davidkranz: http://www.capsunlock.net/2012/02/trystack-is-openstack-sandbox.html it was for you i mean :) | 18:58 |
ggi_ | koolhead17: I have a trystack account | 18:58 |
koolhead17 | ggi_: ^ _^ cool | 18:58 |
ggi_ | kool | 18:59 |
davidkranz | koolhead17: I see the IP column in the instance table but mine is empty! | 19:00 |
koolhead17 | davidkranz: is machine state running? | 19:00 |
davidkranz | Ah. It is still in build. But I started it a long time ago so I guess it is hung. | 19:01 |
davidkranz | I will try another one. | 19:01 |
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koolhead17 | davidkranz: ;-) | 19:02 |
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davidkranz | This one worked. I guess there is some bug in trystack. | 19:04 |
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oneal | hey guys | 19:09 |
oneal | i am looking for a way to connect a cloudfs with another ftp client | 19:09 |
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Mike656 | I mean that nova should work without keystone too. | 19:09 |
Mike656 | what is the advantage of using keystone with nova? | 19:10 |
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oneal | can someone help me there | 19:10 |
oneal | thx | 19:10 |
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davidkranz | How should trystack bugs be reported? I rebooted a vm 10 minutes ago and even after refresh the state is REBOOT. But the vm is still up. | 19:20 |
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Kiall | davidkranz: #trystack might have someone who can help.. and maybe there is a launchpad bug tracker? | 19:22 |
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clayg | Mike656: oh... heh | 19:30 |
clayg | If you try out a deploy with devstack, keystone is setup automatically | 19:31 |
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clayg | nova had a auth service at one point, and it was split into a seperate project (keystone) | 19:31 |
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clayg | you can run nova for dev with "noauth", but generally you want some sort of restrictions around users and projects - so keystone fills that role | 19:31 |
Mike656 | Keystone is a standalone identity manager that can work independently? | 19:32 |
Mike656 | Is there any document that describe the relationship between keystone and other components? | 19:33 |
wabat | davidkranz: I had the same issue yesterday with an instance. It does eventually report correctly but it took a long time before doing so. | 19:33 |
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clayg | Mike656: probably... not sure where... tho... | 19:34 |
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clayg | Mike656: http://keystone.openstack.org/ | 19:35 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939766 in nova "python-novaclient flavor-list is broken against nova diablo/stable" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939766 | 19:51 |
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csh-harmful | What is the proper way to run openstack-dashboard from the repository? Documentation refers only on how to install via bzr | 20:00 |
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annegentle | csh-harmful: where do you see docs referring to bzr? Those are outdated. Try http://wiki.openstack.org/OpenStackDashboard or http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/install/content/ch_install-dashboard.html | 20:02 |
annegentle | csh-harmful: please paste a link so we can fix | 20:03 |
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csh-harmful | I was reading this http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/configure-email-openstack-dashboard.html | 20:03 |
csh-harmful | which wrong I guess | 20:04 |
annegentle | csh-harmful: it was accurate for the Cactus release | 20:04 |
csh-harmful | and trunk is diablo ? | 20:04 |
annegentle | csh-harmful: we're not really back porting fixes for Cactus. Diablo is the release from last fall. Essex comes out in April and is trunk. | 20:04 |
csh-harmful | Ok. Thanks for clarification | 20:05 |
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annegentle | csh-harmful: sure thing. | 20:06 |
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mjfork | Is there a guide for nova-volumes with GlusterFS? | 20:20 |
wabat | mjfork: If you ever do find one let me know. As far as I can tell there is no integration between nova-volumes and GlusterFS. I've been looking for quite some time now. | 20:21 |
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wabat | Gluster put out a document called "Using GlusterFS for OpenStack VM Image Storage" which does not cover anything with nova-volumes | 20:23 |
mjfork | yeah, foudnt hat as well. | 20:25 |
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wabat | I really wish there was a way to use GlusterFS with nova-volumes. I really like it and have found it easy to manage. | 20:27 |
koolhead17 | hi annegentle | 20:28 |
wabat | You can try asking on #gluster however I asked last week and have still not had a response | 20:28 |
koolhead17 | wabat: probably asking on mailinglist will be good idea :) | 20:29 |
annegentle | mjfork: I once knew where GlusterFS kept it let me see if I can locate it again :) | 20:29 |
* annegentle adds http://gluster.org/community/documentation//index.php/OSConnect to our wiki too | 20:30 | |
annegentle | ah, it already is at http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/Proposed/OpenStack%20Cloud%20Storage%20%28Gluster%29 | 20:30 |
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wabat | annegentle: I saw this but the link under "Current State of Development" goes to the gluster site which has links to the above mentioned manual | 20:34 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939791 in nova "Nova image list does not list killed images. " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939791 | 20:36 |
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phschwartz | Anyone used boto with openstack? | 20:44 |
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phschwartz | And how would I determine what to use for the id and key with openstack (I am using an install done with kiall's scripts) | 20:45 |
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shraddha | when we do nova-manage network create/delete. where is thisconfig saved? which file | 20:52 |
shraddha | ? | 20:52 |
WormMan | the database(sqlite/mysql/tetc) | 20:52 |
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koolhead17 | shraddha: and you can see at the log file nova-network.log if anything fails :) | 20:56 |
shraddha | koolhead17: somehow I dont get any logs on creating/deletion of network | 20:58 |
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koolhead17 | shraddha: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-logging.html#d6e979 see if its configured inside your nova.conf file | 21:00 |
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shraddha | getting following error when I try to start nova-network | 21:05 |
shraddha | ProcessExecutionError: Unexpected error while running command. (nova): TRACE: Command: sudo ip addr del 172.16.0.7/24 brd 10.20.0.255 scope global secondary dev br100 (nova): TRACE: Exit code: 255 | 21:05 |
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sgd | Curious, what is the status of Active Directory integration with Keystone? | 21:50 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939798 in nova "Injection should not happen with metadata service" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939798 | 22:53 |
uvirtbot` | New bug: #939820 in devstack "Swift and Quantum added to keystone service catalog even when not enabled" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939820 | 22:53 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939893 in nova "nova flavor-create yeilds 500 against stable/diablo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939893 | 22:55 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939896 in nova "python-novaclient should enable/disable features based on extension list" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939896 | 23:01 |
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ark_ | Hello! I am looking to devstack , does anyone know how to install with eth0 and routable ips in the range of 10.10.243.0/24 in localrc file before ./stach.sh ? | 23:09 |
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fri096 | hi, is there a Java library which supports swift with keystone authentication? | 23:20 |
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technologov_ | fri096, maybe "jclouds"... | 23:21 |
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fri096 | @technologov_: Seems it is under development in JClouds, but does not seem to be finished / usable. | 23:22 |
clayg | fri096: I think the only swift client that supports keystone is the python client | 23:23 |
clayg | but not like python-cloudfiles, like swift.common.client | 23:23 |
clayg | there's cloud files for java - but rackspace doesn't (yet?) run keystone | 23:23 |
technologov_ | yes, you're unlikely to find stable 3rd party software, that supports OpenStack, simply because OpenStack is a fast-moving target, with fast development | 23:23 |
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clayg | https://github.com/rackspace/java-cloudfiles would probably support a patch to optionally add keystone support :) | 23:25 |
fri096 | thanks. Might have to wait for jclouds (or cloud files) to catch up in this case :-(. | 23:26 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939907 in devstack "old nova.conf and paste.config aren't deleted" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939907 | 23:42 |
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CaptTofu | who here has a spare cycle to help a python question? | 23:50 |
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uvirtbot` | New bug: #939916 in nova "OSError Invalid cross-device link during resize" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/939916 | 23:58 |
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