Monday, 2012-02-27

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technologovI did:00:41
technologovnova-manage network create novanet 1 25600:41
technologovbut I getting:00:41
technologovNetworkNotCreated: --bridge_interface is required to create a network.00:41
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technologovany ideas ?00:41
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941705 in tempest "test_resize_server_revert fails occasionally due to Nova bug" [Medium,In progress]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941711 in openstack-manuals "Creating creds needs revision for Essex" [High,Confirmed]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941731 in swift "ZeroDivisionError in obj/ while running unit tests" [Undecided,In progress]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941735 in quantum "pip-requires is missing configobj" [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941738 in quantum "fix the keystone cmd in quantum doc. If required add more details on keystone roles." [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941760 in nova "QuantumManager ends up with dangling quantum network" [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941777 in tempest "Positive tests for disk config extension" [Medium,In progress]
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Guest41598hi,is there anyone who installed openstack using Xen?so do i have to put nova-compute on a DomU or Dom0?06:43
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941794 in nova "VIF and Interface drivers for Quantum Linux Bridge plugin need to be added to linux_net library" [Undecided,New]
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siwosguys - is anyone using successfully python-boto library with essex?07:52
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hwestmanto add a stop-button in horizon for each instance running, how hard could it actually be?07:55
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LarsErikPdoes this look familiar to anyone? (nova): TRACE: Failure: Unable to log in to XenAPI (is the Dom0 disk full?)08:53
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ohadlevyLarsErikP: do you have free disk space on your xen host? :)09:21
LarsErikP212GB free09:22
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ohadlevyLarsErikP: on that storagepool?09:23
LarsErikPuuhhm.. may be som conf i've missed here...09:23
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LarsErikPokey, what i'm trying to do. I have one controller, running api, scheduler etc... then i wish to setup X computenodes using Xen, and run nova-conpute on a storagebox...09:27
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LarsErikPwhat I'm doing now is trying to get nova-compute to talk to XCP on one of the compute nodes... Installed xcp-xapi and xcp-xe and that particular machine, and tried to follow this guide
LarsErikPwhat am i missing?09:28
LarsErikPonly packages installed on this compute node, is nova-compute, nova-compute-xen, nova-xcp-plugins. And their dependencies09:30
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LarsErikPxe sr-list does only list a ISO...10:06
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941860 in devstack "Devstack: Installation FAILURE" [Undecided,New]
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Tristan|i3DI still have a issue where dashboard thinks my keystone and glance are localhost11:29
Tristan|i3Dwhich they are not11:29
Tristan|i3Dany idea where I can change that?11:30
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LarsErikPokey, hace a working controller, with glance and keystone... now I want to add a compute node.. Switched back to kvm. Steps to follow?12:23
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davepigottHi. Hoping someone here can help. I have an OpenStack configuration with one controller node running all of the nova/glance/swift services and then 3 compute nodes running nova-network, nova-compute and nova-api. I have the same nova.conf on *all* nodes. When I run an instance, if it ends up on the controller node I can ssh to it, ping it whatever. If it ends up on any other node I get the instance running and I can't12:25
davepigottconnect to it. If I get the console output it seems  to have booted, but the last line is saying: "cloud-init-nonet waiting 120 seconds for a network device." Any ideas what I've got wrong in my config?12:25
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davepigottjamespage: ^12:26
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lxuTristan|i3D: hey12:27
Tristan|i3Dlxu: hi12:27
lxuTristan|i3D: I'm looking at your config files. How many nodes do you have, and what is installed on them and its IPs ?12:29
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Tristan|i3Dlxu: 3 nodes (mysql master / master, single floating ip) 1 rabbitmq with 1 ip (will be 3 like mysql), 1 keystone/glance with 1 ip, 1 nova compute with 1 ip12:32
Tristan|i3Dmysql, rabbitmq, keystone/glance, nova
lxuok, I will take a look12:34
Tristan|i3Dlxu: thank you very much!12:34
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lxuTristan|i3D: where is your nova-api?12:36
Tristan|i3DIll grep it for you12:36
phschwartzWhat lib would you guys suggest for working with OS from python? I have been looking at Boto, but want to make sure that it is the best choice.12:36
phschwartzAlso, do I need to generate an ec2 key and id or can I use my keystone tenant/user for it?12:37
Tristan|i3Dyou mean nova-api process12:37
Tristan|i3Don the nova-compute system12:37
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lxuTristan|i3D: and where is dashboard?12:39
Tristan|i3Don nova-compute12:39
uvirtbot`New bug: #941880 in openstack-ci "New sync script not updating existing users" [Medium,New]
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maploinwhere do I get the value for [nova] key, in tempest/etc/config.ini?12:52
lxuTristan|i3D: show me the api-paste.ini12:52
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Tristan|i3Dyes sir12:53
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lxuTristan|i3D: yeah, all seems fine12:55
Tristan|i3Dinteresting eh?12:55
Tristan|i3Dit really says12:55
Tristan|i3D( )12:56
Tristan|i3D( )12:56
Tristan|i3Dand probably therefor Error connecting to glance: Unable to connect to server. Got error: [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED when trying to enter the images tab12:56
zynzelTristan|i3D: keystone endpoint templates?12:56
Tristan|i3Dzynzel: ill check12:57
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Tristan|i3Dwhat was the command for it?12:58
zynzelkeystonkeystone-manage list_endpoint_templates12:59
zynzelkeystone-manage list_endpoint_templates *12:59
zynzelTristan|i3D: you have answer.13:00
Tristan|i3Droot@server10332:~# keystone-manage list_endpont_templates *13:01
Tristan|i3DSupported objects: user, tenant, role, service, endpointTemplates, token, endpoint, credentials13:01
Tristan|i3Dzynzel: I thought so ;)13:01
uvirtbot`New bug: #941892 in openstack-manuals "Docs: Flat DHCP network image is cut in PDF" [Undecided,New]
Tristan|i3Dzynzel: how does keystone-manage list_endpont_templates work?13:02
Tristan|i3Dkeystone-manage endpointTemplates list works13:02
Tristan|i3Dkeystone-manage endpointTemplates delete RegionOne13:03
Tristan|i3DAction not supported for endpointTemplates13:03
Tristan|i3Dhow do I change them?13:04
phschwartzAnyone know of a link to an example of any of the major python libs for cloud computing working with OS? boto, libcloud, txaws?13:04
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zynzelTristan|i3D: create_endpoint_template13:06
Tristan|i3Dzynzel: what about the existing ones?13:07
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Tristan|i3DI mean13:09
Tristan|i3Dthrough CLI13:09
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Tristan|i3Dzynzel: ?13:15
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Tristan|i3Dinteresting, as it seems keystone-manage does not support delete13:23
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Tristan|i3Dok so I have cleared the endpoints_templates within the db itself (mysql)13:27
Tristan|i3Drestarted nova13:28
Tristan|i3Dit still shows
Tristan|i3Ddo i need to restart more?13:28
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Tristan|i3Dneed to logout and login into dashboard13:34
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Adri2000keystone's README says LDAP backend is still to do. does it mean essex will be released without ldap support at all? wasn't ldap supported in nova before keystone existed?13:57
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phschwartzIs there really no examples of using somthing like boto or libcloud with OpenStack + keystone out there? I have been googling and can't seem to find anything thing, and any attempts I try to make with libcloud from looking at the source, fail.14:03
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prectechCharliehello all, I am having a problem where I can't ping or ssh to my host14:09
prectechCharlieI mean my running instance14:09
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prectechCharliehas anyone been able to get the VLAN network configuration working? I really need a hand with it14:12
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phschwartzprectechCharlie: What is the issue your having? We run here multiple clusters (2 of them at 400+ compute nodes) with vlan networking14:14
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phschwartzI located this link But the examples with OpenStack seem to not work. Anyone have links they can provide for other examples with different libs?14:16
Kiallphschwartz: the openstack-ci repo has some examples..14:18
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phschwartzkiall: hmm, I am looking at those now, but they don't seem to use the Openstack driver, but rackspace. Curious as to why they did it that way.14:20
KiallThey get free VM's from rackspace for running the tests etc on14:20
KiallBut AFAIK the usage is nearly identical.. just supply a different set of init params14:21
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phschwartzThe Openstack driver needs an auth_url set and when I have tried, I have pointed it at http://keystone:5000/v2.0/ and only get the following error14:22
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phschwartzlibcloud.common.types.MalformedResponseError: <MalformedResponseException in <libcloud.compute.drivers.openstack.OpenStack_1_1_NodeDriver object at 0x7f8762ecaf90> 'Malformed response'>: 'code: 400 body:{"badRequest": {"message": "Expecting passwordCredentials:username or Invalid attribute(s): passwordCredentials", "code": "400"}}'14:22
phschwartzReason I was looking for more examples.14:22
Kiallah - its out of date it seems14:22
KiallThats caused by an API change made to keystone right before diablo was released14:22
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phschwartzLol, libcloud failed then. This is with their latest version 0.8.0 release on the 8th14:23
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phschwartzIs there a way to access the old apu?14:24
KiallI don't think so offhand..14:25
phschwartzdoes keystone:5000/v1.0 or keystone:5000/v1.1 still work?14:25
phschwartzDo you know of any other examples of python libs with openstack? boto? txAWS?14:25
KiallSorry - I don't :)14:26
phschwartzI need to do some automated work with my  clusters and can't without a working lib. :(14:26
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phschwartzI just got 2 new 4u's to work with and want to really push them.14:26
KiallI was sure libcloud was fixed though.. could you be on an old version?14:26
phschwartzdownloaded from their site today and installed with distutils14:27
phschwartz>>> libcloud.__version__14:27
phschwartzThat is their latest release14:27
phschwartzI see some stuff about 2.0 auth in common/, but not sure why it isn't used in the compute driver14:29
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KiallLooks like you need to use "self.auth_version == "2.0_password":"14:30
KiallNot sure how you tell it to do that though!14:30
phschwartzThat is the same point I am at with it after looking14:31
KiallIt seems really daft for that lib to default the OpenStack driver auth to a rackspace specific API extension -_-14:31
prectechCharliephschwartz: I have two server one compute one contorller both with 2 NICs each NIC is connected to a switch and I have enabled a VLAN on the prviate IP connected switch. Forsome reason though, I can create instance they go to running but I can't ping or ssh to them14:31
KiallprectechCharlie: have you enabled SSH and ping access? OpenStack firewalls every instance with a "block everything" by default14:32
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prectechCharlieKiall: yes I have14:32
Kiallhave you checked the console output to be sure that have actually booted?14:33
Kiall"ACTIVE" simply means kvm has started - OpenStack has no way of knowing if the VM actually booted14:33
prectechCharliewith regards to vlan, I believe it is the private IP interface that is configured as the vlan_interface right?14:33
KiallRight - and public_interface is the network card with access to the floating ip's14:34
prectechCharlieKiall: that is true and when I check the console output, I just get a timestamp.14:34
KiallThat doesnt sound right! There should be all sorts of info the the console output...14:34
prectechCharliedoes this mean my images are corrupt?14:35
prectechCharlieI bundled them using the instructions in the doc14:35
KiallAh - I would start with the pre-made 100% works images...14:35
prectechCharliewhere can I get one?14:35
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Kiall is a tiny distro basically intended for testing OpenStack ...14:36
prectechCharliecool. thanks I'll check it out.14:36
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prectechCharlieOne last thing on vlans, do I setup up my switch so that the ports my servers are in will carry untagged (i.e. trunking) or tagged packets?14:38
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KiallThe ports should be setup as trunk ports, with the list of VLANs specifically marked as allowed..14:38
Kiall(usually thats vlan 100+)14:38
Kiall(assuming all the default settings etc)14:39
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prectechCharlieokay. but my switch can only assign oen VLAN id to a port14:40
KiallThen  either you have terrible switches, or your not quite understanding how to set them up!14:41
KiallTypically a trunk port switch config will have 2 settings..14:41
Kiall1) The VLAN tag to add to any untagged packaged received on that interface14:42
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Kiall2) The list of acceptable VLAN tags for packets received14:43
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prectechCharlieI am sure it's me  :-). I am using a Netgear FSM700S.14:43
Kialland .. #1 should not be set to one of the OpenStack VLANs..14:43
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KiallNever used netgear switches, but I would be shocked if they claimed VLAN support but only allowed 1 vlan to be used per port14:44
prectechCharlieI'll do more research. Thanks Kiall, you have been very helpful :-)14:45
prectechCharlieone more thing :-)14:45
phschwartzThere are no netgear on the market that support vlan tagging. vlan tagging is a datacenter feature and a pretty highend one at that. Most Lowend cisco rackmount switches don't even support it.14:46
uvirtbot`New bug: #941951 in nova "SQLAlchemy (Migrate): useexisting is deprecated." [Undecided,New]
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phschwartzUnless you have a 10gb or core switch that is, but that is another ball of wax. lol14:47
prectechCharliephschwartz:  I see so what switch will I need if I want to use VLAN tagging?14:48
KiallprectechCharlie: can you find that screen on your switch?14:48
prectechCharliethat looks very much like the frontend to my switch :-) thanks14:49
phschwartzthat is a FSM700s which is a core switch module. lol14:49
phschwartzThat falls into my exception noted above. lol14:49
prectechCharlieI have created VLAN with id 100 and set port 1 and 2 as trunk ports14:49
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KiallprectechCharlie: I'm guessing here, but try this..14:51
Kiall1) Create a VLAN "1", assign those ports as "U"14:52
Kiall2) Create VLAN's 100/101/102/etc, assign those ports to each of them as "T"14:52
Kiall(BTW - VLAN "1" could be anything.. probably worth setting that to some unused VLAN, or the discard VLAN)14:53
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prectechCharlieKiall: Done. There is also an option to assign each port a VLANID but that is probbably for untagged traffic. There is a separate section for assign trucked ports15:02
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uvirtbot`New bug: #941978 in openstack-manuals "[PATCH] Docs: (compute) FlatDHCP disallows IP injection" [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942007 in openstack-manuals "Docs-compute: Figure 7.7. High Availability image does not fit into PDF" [Undecided,New]
uvirtbot`New bug: #942008 in nova "Rapidly creating and rebooting vms causes nova to fail" [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942017 in openstack-manuals "Docs-compute: Dashboard image does not fit into PDF" [Undecided,New]
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phschwartzkiall: you still around?15:49
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Kiallkinda ;)15:50
phschwartzSo you know it looks like with an override to OpenStackComputeConnnection I can get an auth to work.15:50
phschwartzTook a bit to get it there, Just not sure if there is a flag to do it easier15:50
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KiallI'm not sure TBH, Never used the lib! But from the code it looks like you just need to set the right auth mode (somehow!)15:51
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phschwartzcloser: bcloud.common.types.MalformedResponseError: <MalformedResponseException in <libcloud.compute.drivers.openstack.OpenStack_1_1_NodeDriver object at 0x7f96be338f90> 'Malformed response'>: 'code: 400 body: {"badRequest": {"message": "Invalid attribute(s): RAX-KSKEY:apiKeyCredentials", "code": "400"}}'15:53
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KiallRight, Thats using "2.0" rather than "2.0_password" as the auth_version15:53
Kiall(as I said - WTF at libcloud defaulting the OpenStack auth mechanism to a rackspace specific extension)15:54
phschwartz2.0_password has: libcloud.common.types.MalformedResponseError: <MalformedResponseException in None 'Auth JSON response is missing required elements'>: KeyError('serviceCatalog',)15:54
KiallRAX-KSKEY = the RackSpace extension namespace...15:54
phschwartznow to figure out what it is looking for there and it might work15:54
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KiallYea, the "2.0_password" is closer, it's issuing the request and getting, I assume, a 200 OK back..15:56
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phschwartzcorrect as it is in a try block after a 200 was recieved.15:56
phschwartzIt is complaining that the return from the request has not serviceCatalog in the json15:57
KiallRight - And a quick look at at the suggests its looking for the correct information...15:57
Kialllook at the code*15:57
phschwartzI wonder if there is a verbose debug out put so I can see the returned json15:57
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KiallMaybe, you could try the request manually too..15:58
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Kiallphschwartz: eg like this:
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KiallI get a response along these lines:
refactorEssex on ubuntu 12.04, uploaded image shows:16:03
refactorNotAuthorized: You are not authorized to complete this action.16:03
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phschwartzkiall: should the auth for the user have a serviceCatalog?16:08
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phschwartzThis is the return and the reason libcloud is failing.
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Kiallphschwartz: it should AFAIK..16:15
KiallUnless essex doesnt have that anymore?16:15
Kiall(are you using essex?)16:16
KiallAnd - are your endpoint templates marked as global?16:16
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942068 in horizon ""Error: Unable to retrieve usage information" on /nova/ if you have no instances" [Undecided,Invalid]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942074 in horizon "ERROR:horizon.middleware:Could not retrieve tenant list." [Undecided,New]
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technologovhi !17:00
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technologovCan anyone answer the Q about nova-manage failure ?17:00
technologov* nova-manage network create FAILURE17:00
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technologov* Docs: credentials create FAILURE17:01
technologovon ML17:01
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technologovQ: Does legacy auth scheme supported in Essex ? Or17:04
technologovkeystone only ?17:04
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gmitechnologov: all Openstack services now use keystone for authentication so your chances of using legacy auth with anything newer than Diablo are slim17:23
gmiDashboard works ONLY if you use keystone, so unless you want to use only API, you have to use keystone17:23
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942099 in tempest "Tests that change access to vms need to be more thorough" [Undecided,New]
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aweissanyone know why that keystone would respond with following error: Response from Keystone does not contain a Glance endpoint.17:31
aweissi setup the endpoint in the default_catalog.templates file17:32
aweissand also created the service using service-create17:32
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phschwartzkiall: using your ppa. And how can I check if they are global?17:44
Kiallphschwartz: fastest way is to check the keystone DB directly..17:45
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phschwartzany chance you can pass along the query to look it up? I haven't looked at that db before.17:49
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942118 in glance "Glance copy_from should gracefully handle file store" [Medium,New]
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phschwartzHow can I determine why keystone is not returning a serviceCatalog?18:59
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942156 in nova "floating-ip-delete disassociates and doesn't de-allocate when ip is associated." [Undecided,New]
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phschwartzkiall: any idea if your still around?19:04
phschwartzI looked at the service table in the keystone database and there are 3 rows in the table.19:04
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Kiallphschwartz: and the is_global column?19:06
phschwartzin which table?19:06
Kiallthe endpoint_templates table19:06
phschwartzset to 119:07
phschwartzenabled is set to 1 also19:07
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KiallWeird - I'm not sure why your not getting the list of endpoints back, did you try that bash snipped I posted?19:08
phschwartzThis is the return
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KiallOh - does admin and a default tenant?19:09
Kiall(users table)19:09
Kialltenant_id in users table19:09
phschwartzShould I update it to be a valid tenat?19:10
KiallAh, that explains it..19:11
KiallThere should be no harm in setting it..19:11
Kiallotherwise, I assume there is a way to give libcloud a tenant name or id19:11
technologovQ: Does legacy auth scheme supported in Essex ? Or keystone only ?19:13
uvirtbot`New bug: #942158 in openstack-manuals "To install keystone, no need to add repo in ubuntu anymore" [Undecided,New]
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phschwartzkiall: no way to give libcloud a tenant as I can see. But setting the tenant_id=1 worked.19:13
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phschwartzgetting closer now with libcloud. I can auth now.19:15
phschwartznow down to libcloud.common.types.LibcloudError: <LibcloudError in None 'Could not find specified endpoint'>19:15
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Kiallphschwartz: the region?19:16
phschwartzLooking at what it is set too19:17
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ShiShI get the following error on the compute node only 2012-02-27 19:49:23,421 -[WARNING]: '' failed: http error [404]20:09
ShiShany idea why?20:09
ShiShI can start instances on the cloud controller correctly20:10
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phschwartzkiall: time to figure out how to create an instance with sshkeys :)20:17
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gmiShiSh: if you run in HA networking mode you need nova-api on you nova-compute nodes20:40
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gmicheck if you have iptables rules for 169.254 and if the instance can reach the nova-api service20:41
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creihtvishy: around?????20:42
creihtheh... just realized I should ask this on -dev20:43
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ShiShgmi: but I use the --ec2_dmz_host flag, on compute node I only have network, and compute20:48
ShiShbefore using the flag the api server was not reachiable20:49
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ShiShafter using the flag I get the 404 error20:49
gmiso, can you wget anything from ?20:49
uvirtbot`New bug: #942231 in keystone "pypi fails to fetch lxml needed as deps for keystone" [Undecided,New]
ShiShno, not from command line20:51
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ShiShbut nova-network should replace the with the api server ip specified in --ec3_dmz_host flag right?20:52
gmiis nova-api running on your controller node? do you have iptables rules for 169.254 on your nova-compute  (e.g.
gmiI have to leave now, sorry20:54
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ShiShapi is running on controller node20:55
ShiShok thanks20:55
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zykes-yes, at last back on irssi and no more xchat!21:04
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942247 in keystone "Admin token auth completely broken" [Critical,Confirmed]
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ShiShInstance metadata not found (http error [404]) for instances started on a compute node. Instances started on controller run correctly. Any idea why?
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phschwartzdo you have nova-network and nova-api on the compute nodes also?21:15
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phschwartzAlso, how did you do the install? distrobution packages, devstack, kiall's scripts?21:16
ShiShI don't have api on cpmpute only network21:16
ShiShdistribution packages21:16
phschwartzDo you have iptable rules setup for prerouting to fwd to your controller?21:16
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phschwartzif not, you need nova-api running on the compute nodes also to handle the meta-data21:17
ShiShno I use the --ec2_dmz_host flag and I get 404 error so ip server seems reachable21:17
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phschwartzbecause it is not routable. If you want to use that flag, you have to setup iptables routing of to the controller.21:18
phschwartzEasier action is to remove that flag and run nova-api on the compute nodes.21:18
phschwartzUnless you like playing with iptables21:18
ShiShhmmmm but why I get 404 error?21:18
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phschwartzbecause it sees it as an unreachable address21:19
ShiShbut without flag I get "url error [[Errno 111] Connection refused]"21:19
ShiSh"The 404 or Not Found error message is a HTTP standard response code indicating that the client was able to communicate with the server, but the server could not find what was requested."21:20
phschwartzBecause you don't have nova-api on the local system.21:20
phschwartzThe meta-data server works with routing to determine the instance ip. Without the routing correctly, you will get a 404 as it doesn't know the correct ip of the instance you are running. It sees the ip of the compute node.21:21
phschwartzAs I said, the only way around that is correct prerouting rules for or running nova-api directly on the compute node.21:21
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ShiShhow can I run the nova-api. --enabled_apis=metadata didn't work for me?21:22
phschwartzI haven't gotten that working correctly. I just start it up with service nova-api start21:23
phschwartzWorks just fine as long as it can read your nova.conf21:23
phschwartzbut make sure you remove --ec2_dmz_host or it will not work correctly.21:24
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ShiShso I don't need the --enable_apis=metadata ?21:26
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ShiShOK I'll try it. Thanks so much for the help :)21:31
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Kzimi just discover openstack, i just want to know if it's possible to create a openstack systeme within vmware or any virtual machine to try it ? thanks a lot21:36
Spirilisthe default/most tested config is based on KVM, which needs native access to your CPU21:38
Spirilisthere are alternative hypervisors I've heard, like LXC (linux containers), that might work.21:38
Spirilisnot at all familiar with LXC though besides the idea that they're similar to solaris lightweight zones I think21:38
WormManfor just playing you can use devstack, it will run KVM(maybe LXC)21:38
annegentleKzim: you can run the script from in a VMWare Fusion VM or VirtualBox VM as an all-in-one21:39
WormManer not KVM, QEMU21:39
WormManer, yea, what annegentle says21:39
Spirilisannegentle: ah would that use the software qemu then?21:39
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Kzimannegentle: ho i check that thanks a lot !21:42
technologovQ: Does legacy auth scheme supported in Essex ? Or keystone only ?21:43
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zykes-anyone know what happened to "vidd" ?21:53
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annegentletechnologov: you did not like the answer from gmi earlier? :) Essex supports RC files containing credentials is that "legacy" auth?21:57
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technologovit is related to my email21:57
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technologov"credentials create FAILURE"21:58
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annegentlevariables vs names?21:58
technologovnope, this one I patched.21:59
annegentleok, I follow21:59
technologovthe main Q is what are the steps to get it going... ?21:59
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technologovI mean... I'm trying for like a week, but still no success :(21:59
technologovthe docs, step-by-step22:00
annegentletechnologov: your end goal is - validating that Keystone is working? Or having a user that can do things?22:00
technologovdocs say this:22:00
technologovmkdir –p /root/creds22:00
technologov/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/nova-manage project zipfile $NOVA_PROJECT22:00
technologov$NOVA_PROJECT_USER /root/creds/novacreds.zip22:00
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annegentletechnologov: that doc needs updating22:00
technologovIf this command is broken, then docs need update22:00
technologovfor equivalent in keystone or whatever22:01
kbringardI don't think there is an equivalent in keystone22:01
kbringardkeystone is a different beast entirely22:01
annegentletechnologov: yup, bug logged, 94171122:01
technologovok, but there must be some procedure to get nova up-n-running22:01
kbringardbut please correct me if I'm wrong22:01
annegentletechnologov: the equivalent for that nova-manage command is to make an RC file22:01
technologovhow ?22:02
annegentletechnologov: but yes there's no keystone equivalent for that particular command22:02
WormMan(by hand, with lots of magic)22:02
WormMannot that I'm cynical...22:02
kbringardI have a script that I use to add users and tenants22:02
kbringardand it writes out an rc file22:02
kbringardlet me find it22:02
technologovkbringard, it all must be documented22:02
annegentletechnologov: manually, or by getting it from an already-working Dashboard22:02
technologovis this script part of OpenStack ?22:02
kbringardtechnologov: nope22:02
kbringardand please, feel free to document it22:03
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technologovif not, then the full procedure must be documented22:03
technologovkbringard, I will, but I need working setup22:03
kbringardchcken and egg it seems22:03
technologov(small bugs I fix without working setup... BTW)22:03
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wabatkbringard: I'd be interested in seeing that script if you would not mind22:05
technologovcould you type the correct commands in bug 941711?22:05
annegentleis anyone making E3 packages yet? Kiall or anyone?22:05
kbringardthere may be bugs in it, but it works pretty well for me22:05
technologovWe need to document them22:05
kbringardand you can use it to see what you need to run to add users to keystone with ec2 creds22:05
technologovLooking for a good equivalent command22:06
kbringardtechnologov: as far as I know there isn't one22:07
technologovkbringard, then how-to install nova ?22:08
technologovThis command is part of nova docs22:08
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technologovand I can't install nova22:08
technologovwithout it22:08
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technologov... there should be a way to install Nova.22:10
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kbringarduse deprecated auth22:11
kbringardthat will make the nova-manage project zipfile stuff work22:11
technologovI do... but they depend on the command above22:11
kbringardbut, it should be noted that adding users to keystone != getting nova installed22:12
technologovI have "--use_deprecated_auth" in nova conf22:12
technologov"nova-manage project zipfile" is for nova-auth, not for keystone. Correct ?22:13
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annegentletechnologov: yes nova-manage project zipfile is for --use_deprecated_auth22:14
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technologovThen "--use_deprecated_auth" can work in nova-essex or not ?22:15
technologovor nova-essex requires keystone ?22:16
technologov(this is why I say, that the docs must be built with the product... they are part of.)22:17
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annegentletechnologov: I believe --use_deprecated_auth will still work with nova essex version22:20
technologovit might work for existing deployments22:20
technologovbut fail for new deployments22:20
technologov(if it is impossible to generate new keys for this)22:20
technologov(but possible to use old keys)22:21
annegentletechnologov: it's a choice. Object Storage has a few auth choices as well - tempauth, swauth.22:21
technologovok, if it is a choice, what is the way to get it going ?22:21
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technologov"nova-manage project zipfile" is necessary for "--use_deprecated_auth" for new deployments ?22:22
annegentletechnologov: keystone is the "way" for auth22:22
technologovthen "--use_deprecated_auth" is not a choice any longer.22:23
annegentletechnologov: if your nova.conf has --use_deprecated_auth you must use nova-manage commands22:23
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technologovBut nova-manage does not work, (as bug #941711 shows us)22:23
annegentletechnologov: essentially, there are many admin commands you do with nova-manage, there was a discussion to remove all references to nova-manage, but it has not all been removed from docs.22:24
technologovIt means, that old-style deprecated auth will not work for essex. Correct ?22:24
technologov(docs should keep only working commands)22:24
technologovIf some command no longer works, it should be removed from docs, with the new replacement written22:25
technologovI will try to update docs22:25
annegentletechnologov: yes, that would be great22:25
technologovbut my understanding of OpenStack is incomplete at this time22:25
technologovso what you recommend ? Use keystone ?22:26
annegentletechnologov: it's ok, we all glue our knowledge together. Yes, Keystone results in the ability to use the OpenStack Dashboard, it is recommended.22:26
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* technologov will try keystone22:27
technologov... again22:27
annegentletechnologov: the Diablo guide is the only tested working guide, just so you know.22:28
annegentletechnologov: at
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technologovmy goal is learn OpenStack and to deliver quality Debian 7.0 (stable) release... since Debian 7.0 will ship Essex, this is what I'm standardizing on.22:30
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technologovSince it does not work... I recommend to remove "--use_deprecated_auth" from the "installation" part of the docs. (it can be kept in the "upgrade from Diablo" part)22:36
* technologov is trying keystone...22:36
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technologovthanks for clarification !22:39
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Kiallannegentle, I've been holding off Essex in the hopes that the ubuntu precise packages will be suitable :)23:06
Kiallholding off essex packages*23:06
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technologov"holding off" = "delaying upgrade from Diablo" ?23:09
* technologov will attempt to make Debian 7.0 + Essex a stable one.23:09
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KiallWell, I wouldnt install a beta OS on production servers, and I wouldn't install unpackaged software on  production servers.. So I've held off upgrading and help off updating my packages to essex!23:10
Kialland held off*23:10
KiallHopefully I won't need to build any essex packages :) From what I've seen, the Ubuntu precsice packages are shaping up nicely23:10
technologovy, on Ubuntu precise there are *lots* of people...23:11
technologovworking on O-S23:11
technologovbut Essex gets released same month as Ubuntu 12, which won't give Ubunters much time...23:12
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KiallSame thing happened with Oneiric, But, I think they are keeping pretty much up-to-date with master, and the with the master feature freeze, things should be easier this time23:12
technologovit is just 1 month until release23:14
technologovnot much time for Ubuntu23:14
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* technologov will see if Ubuntu guys can fix both the packages and the docs till then23:14
technologov(and gals)23:14
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KiallFingers crossed ;)23:14
technologovnah... for Debian we have more time :)23:15
technologov7.0 is expected early 201323:15
technologovwe have like 1 year to test Essex :)23:15
uvirtbot`New bug: #942304 in openstack-ci "stable/diablo branches needed for tempest and openstack-chef" [Undecided,New]
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Kialltechnologov, lol.. F will nearly be out by then ;)23:18
technologovsurely it will23:18
technologovassuming 6 month cycle, F will be ready in oct.2012.23:19
technologovDebian 7.0 will ship with Essex early 2013, hopefully stable :)23:19
KiallLol - I forgot it was 6mo rather than 12mo..23:19
technologovso we talk about competition with G, not F then :)23:20
KiallSo - Debian 7.0 wont ship F then? F will have been out for a few months at that point?23:20
technologovnope. Feature freeze happens in Jun 2012 for Debian 7.0.23:20
technologovAfter this it is only testing + docs.23:20
technologov(+backporting fixes)23:20
KiallAh well .. OS has to pick someone's release schedule to follow :)23:21
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Kiall(Pity they didnt give Ubuntu an extra month ;))23:21
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technologov.. or schedule O-S a month *before* Ubuntu release23:21
technologovit would be a smart move for Ubunters23:21
technologov(i.e. early Mar instead of April)23:22
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technologovUbuntu has like 1 or 2 weeks for testing O-S and publishing it for an LTS23:22
technologov.. which is not nearly enough. (by my Debian-weighted opinion)23:23
KiallYea - I'm pretty sure that's why they are running per-commit build+smoketests to try and get every issue as soon as it happens, rather than grabbing the tarball on release day!23:23
Kiallper-commit build+deploy on real hardware+smoketests*23:24
technologovwho is "they" ?23:24
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technologovautomated tests do not cover 100% of functionality.23:24
technologovI'm a big believer of manual testing.23:24
KiallYea - But it certainly doesnt hurt ;)23:25
WormManI hope to get my test cloud up23:25
WormManthen I can break openstack just like all previous versions :)23:25
technologovAre those tests reliable ?23:26
Kialltechnologov, its new a thing they are doing.. Not sure how reliable they are..23:27
Kiallthey build the packages, bare metal provision a bunch of servers, deploy and test.. probably lots of room for error in that23:27
technologovwell... on physical hardware .. prolly tricky...23:28
technologovon virtual hardware should be easier23:28
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942318 in openstack-manuals "Docs-compute: euca-authorize FAILURE" [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbot`New bug: #942322 in tempest "NovaConfig should allow setting of auth_url" [Undecided,New]
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