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| uvirtbot | New bug: #959426 in nova "nova services start before mysql on boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959426 | 00:42 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #959843 in nova "Regression in libvirt lxc console" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959843 | 01:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #959881 in swift "webob 1.2b3 breaking the proxy server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959881 | 02:36 |
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| catbot_ | I have 3 physical nodes with 8 cores per one, and the total cores are 24, that mean the number of virtual machine that I can run must be less or equal than 24, right? | 03:46 |
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| catbot_ | much more, all the nodes run KVM hypervisor | 03:47 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #959916 in keystone "sql config options are incorrect" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959916 | 04:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #959929 in nova "--novncproxy_base_url is misdocumented" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959929 | 05:31 |
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| halfss | i install dashboard+keystone+nova+glance+swift,now i use dashboard create an user,the user have permissions of nova,but don't have permissions of swift | 06:14 |
| halfss | what show i do if i want the user have swift permissions? | 06:14 |
| halfss | is there anyone can help me? thks | 06:14 |
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| Crshman | What service provides the security group settings? Is that Quantum? | 06:58 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #959953 in swift "x-storage-url from remote server not referring to correct host address" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/959953 | 07:01 |
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| halfss | nova-network | 07:15 |
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| jopz | hello | 07:25 |
| jopz | After completing openstack controller installation i am getting [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/www/.novaclient' | 07:26 |
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| jopz | while accessing as project admin | 07:26 |
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| oNeToWn | #keystone | 07:27 |
| jopz | keystone-manage service add swift object-store "Swift-compatible Service" | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage service add nova compute "OpenStack Compute Service" | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage service add nova_compat compute "OpenStack Compute Service" | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage service add glance image "OpenStack Image Service" | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage service add identity identity "OpenStack Identity Service" | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage endpointTemplates add RegionOne nova_compat http://192.168.0.69:8774/v1.0/ http://192.168.0.69:8774/v1.0 http://192.168.0.69:8774/v1.0 1 1 | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage endpointTemplates add RegionOne nova http://192.168.0.69:8774/v1.1/%tenant_id% http://192.168.0.69:8774/v1.1/%tenant_id% http://192.168.0.69:8774/v1.1/%tenant_id% 1 1 | 07:28 |
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| jopz | keystone-manage endpointTemplates add RegionOne glance http://192.168.0.69:9292/v1 http://192.168.0.69:9292/v1 http://192.168.0.69:9292/v1 1 1 | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage endpointTemplates add RegionOne identity http://192.168.0.69:5000/v2.0 http://192.168.0.69:35357/v2.0 http://192.168.0.69:5000/v2.0 1 1 | 07:28 |
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| jopz | keystone-manage user add admin admin | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage tenant add admin | 07:28 |
| dj_ryan | any good guides to installing openstack compute with ubuntu 12.04? | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage role add Admin | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage role grant Admin admin | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage role grant Admin admin admin | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage role add KeystoneServiceAdmin | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage role add Member | 07:28 |
| jopz | keystone-manage token add 999888777666 admin admin 2015-02-05T00:00 | 07:28 |
| dj_ryan | jopz: er, stop | 07:28 |
| jopz | what? | 07:28 |
| dj_ryan | you are pasing a lot of shit into the channel | 07:29 |
| jopz | <dj_ryan> | 07:29 |
| jopz | what u mean? | 07:29 |
| dj_ryan | are you kidding me? | 07:29 |
| dj_ryan | you are pasting your entire installation script/output/whatthefuckever | 07:29 |
| jopz | actually i am posting the keystone | 07:30 |
| jopz | which i got error | 07:30 |
| chmouel | jopz: usually on IRC people use paste service for long texts like http://paste.openstack.org | 07:30 |
| jopz | oh ok | 07:30 |
| chmouel | and post the link | 07:30 |
| jopz | i will post it there | 07:30 |
| dj_ryan | you should (a) get someone to indicate they'll look at your problem and (b) do what chmouel says | 07:30 |
| dj_ryan | in a bit more of a meta note, why do when i look at the 'crowbar' project and read 'cd images' cry like a little girl? | 07:31 |
| jopz | I have posted my keystone which i used | 07:32 |
| jopz | http://paste.openstack.org/show/11282/ | 07:32 |
| dj_ryan | its 2012, cds and dvds are dying | 07:32 |
| dj_ryan | and have no place in production nodes imo | 07:32 |
| jopz | please help me | 07:32 |
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| jopz | I am getting [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/www/.novaclient' | 07:33 |
| jopz | while accessing images in dashboard | 07:33 |
| jopz | as project admin | 07:33 |
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| chmouel | jopz: its probably a unix permission problem i am not dashboard expert but that's where i would start investigating | 07:37 |
| dj_ryan | chmod 777 already dude | 07:38 |
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| LarsErikP | hi, trying to follow this guide. But keystone doesn't have any option "--token" | 07:43 |
| LarsErikP | it says | 07:44 |
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| q2112 | hi, how do you associate a vm instance to a specific network? | 07:45 |
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| Crshman | what's the difference between swift and nova-volume? | 07:53 |
| Crshman | they both handle storage right? | 07:53 |
| chmouel | swift is a object-storage (like s3) and nova-volume is a persistent block storage like ebs | 07:55 |
| q2112 | swift is an cloud object store while nova-volume is to manage storage volumes in a cloud | 07:55 |
| Crshman | ohhhh | 07:55 |
| Crshman | thanks guys | 07:55 |
| Crshman | A lot of shit going on under the hood here…but it's all pretty neat (and overwhelming! :)) | 07:56 |
| q2112 | yep...yep | 07:56 |
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| LarsErikP | hmm.. keystone-manage version say Implementation v2012.1-dev but I'm really missing the keystone-all command, keystone doesn't have the --token option.. what is wrong? | 08:09 |
| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: are you using from ubuntu repository? | 08:10 |
| LarsErikP | no, i used the trunk ppa | 08:10 |
| LarsErikP | koolhead17: here is the ouput from apt-get Unpacking keystone (from .../keystone_2012.1~e4~20120206.1578-0ubuntu0ppa1~oneiric1_all.deb) ... | 08:11 |
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| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: sudo apt-get upgrade | 08:11 |
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| LarsErikP | no... I did install it just now.. | 08:12 |
| LarsErikP | Setting up keystone (2012.1~e4~20120206.1578-0ubuntu0ppa1~oneiric1) | 08:16 |
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| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: pastebin dpkg -l keystone* | 08:17 |
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| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: http://paste.ubuntu.com/891890/ <-- my sources.list file | 08:26 |
| oNeToWn | I have the same problem as LarsErikP, I am using ubuntu repo's | 08:26 |
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| oNeToWn | deb http://ops.rcb.me/packages oneiric diablo-final | 08:27 |
| koolhead17 | and this is the version of keystine am using http://paste.ubuntu.com/891892/ | 08:28 |
| LarsErikP | but i'm not using that repo.. | 08:28 |
| LarsErikP | oNeToWn: | 08:28 |
| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: just used the default precise repo, it works well | 08:29 |
| LarsErikP | koolhead17: http://paste.openstack.org/show/11296/ | 08:29 |
| LarsErikP | koolhead17: i'm running on oneiric | 08:30 |
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| oNeToWn | thanks, koolhead17, i will try this one | 08:32 |
| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: am not the right guy to tell you about that :( | 08:33 |
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| koolhead17 | oNeToWn: np :) | 08:34 |
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| LarsErikP | is it impossible to get keystone rc1 in 11.10? | 08:44 |
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| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: i hope i could be in position to answer that :) | 09:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960018 in swift "Missing tools and tox.ini in published tarballs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960018 | 09:01 |
| koolhead17 | *wish | 09:01 |
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| LarsErikP | hehe. Seems that both glance and nova are in rc1 in 11.10.. but keystone is e4... | 09:02 |
| koolhead17 | :) | 09:02 |
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| koolhead17 | seems like without nova endpoint i cannot log in to the dashboard | 09:05 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960027 in nova "Some files missing in python-novaclient tarballs" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960027 | 09:11 |
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| foexle | heyho koolhead17 :) | 09:14 |
| koolhead17 | hellp foexle | 09:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960040 in horizon "Incomplete message text when starting multiple instances" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960040 | 09:36 |
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| * uksysadmin has been teased with a fixed Horizon in Ubuntu 12.04... damn you rsync... kick in! | 09:49 | |
| uksysadmin | or not! | 09:58 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960060 in nova "Translation Item #70 should be updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960060 | 10:05 |
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| LarsErikP | okey.. precisce installed... new problem.. (but ofc..) No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.client" | 10:08 |
| LarsErikP | when running keystone tenant-create ...... | 10:08 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960061 in nova "server is allowed to be deleted while image snapshot is in progress" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960061 | 10:11 |
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| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: keystone --token ADMIN --endpoint http://<IP>:35357/v2.0 tenant-create --name openstack --description "Default Tenant" --enabled true | 10:15 |
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| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: keystone --token ADMIN --endpoint http://<IP>:35357/v2.0 tenant-list | 10:16 |
| koolhead17 | what do you get | 10:16 |
| koolhead17 | LarsErikP: https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/doc/source/configuration.rst <-- this is where i got reference from | 10:19 |
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| kesor_ | is there a way to run openstack inside a virtualbox or something? | 10:22 |
| scoph | can anyone help me with an "IndexError: list index out of range" on a fresh new swift install (initial balance of a new ring) | 10:24 |
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| uksysadmin | kesor_: most people when trying out OpenStack do it in a vm | 10:26 |
| scoph | It appears that it may be because I only have one zone, but I need to do an initial "rebalance" to initialize the .gz files before I can add a second node/zone, correct? | 10:26 |
| uksysadmin | install ubuntu as normal and then either grab devstack or follow any number of guides... give your vm enough ram to run and to run instances (say, 2Gb), enough disk space (say 20Gb) and install | 10:27 |
| uksysadmin | if you virtual server software can't do nested hardware-vt, then set your --libvirt_type=qemu flag which will use software virtualization emulation | 10:28 |
| uksysadmin | kesor_: self publicising: http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/ although its a bit out of date... best just going straight for the OpenStack on Essex very small guide | 10:29 |
| dweimer | scoph: I believe that error usually happens when you have fewer zones than the number of replicas (3 by default). You can add multiple zones with swift-ring-builder before running rebalance. If you are using the default 3 replicas, make sure to have at least 3 zones in the ring before the first rebalance run. | 10:30 |
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| foexle | uksysadmin: nice :) | 10:34 |
| foexle | uksysadmin: but one point is missing :( | 10:35 |
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| uksysadmin | foexle: go ahead... | 10:41 |
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| alexn6 | Hi! A networking question. I still cannot get access VM for realIP from inside itself. What to check? | 10:43 |
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| scoph | dweimer: cool, thanks | 10:45 |
| foexle | uksysadmin: advanced networking :) | 10:46 |
| foexle | uksysadmin: i'm looking for use shared services in openstack cloud | 10:46 |
| kesor_ | uksysadmin: thanks, i'll try and get it working. | 10:47 |
| foexle | and i can't find any solution or an approach | 10:47 |
| uksysadmin | foexle, what do you mean? separating the installations? so a central keystone, central mysql cluster, etc? | 10:48 |
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| LarsErikP | kordless: used ADMIN as token. worked fine now | 10:48 |
| LarsErikP | tnx | 10:48 |
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| foexle | uksysadmin: yeah i've open a question https://answers.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+question/191197 ... but yes thats the point | 10:49 |
| foexle | uksysadmin: using central db cluster, searching services and other... | 10:50 |
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| uksysadmin | foexle: as in the instances themselves use some resource that's already on your network? | 10:51 |
| foexle | yes thats the goal | 10:52 |
| kesor_ | eucalyptus is open stack? | 10:52 |
| foexle | i've a central mysql cluster, there are all openstack related db's and all user DB's | 10:52 |
| foexle | kesor_: no | 10:52 |
| foexle | kesor_: its ubuntu's cloud stack | 10:53 |
| kesor_ | i'm just reading uksysadmin's script, and it has euca2ools as a dependency, and rabbitmq, and mysql, and whatnot .. | 10:53 |
| kesor_ | do i really need al that to create openstack? :/ | 10:54 |
| foexle | hahahaha more and more ;) | 10:54 |
| uksysadmin | kesor_: openstack is the environment - yes you need a database (although you can rely on a local sqlitedb), a messaging system (rabbitmq is the 'default') and yes you need everything else | 10:54 |
| uksysadmin | its not virtualisation software, its a cloud operating system | 10:54 |
| foexle | euca2ools are only to control your cloud with amazon api .... but you can use the nova client instead | 10:55 |
| uksysadmin | euca2ools and python-novaclient are the client tools to access your cloud to operate it | 10:55 |
| kesor_ | i thought it was an api layer mostly | 10:55 |
| uksysadmin | its a complete stack... OpenSTACK | 10:55 |
| uksysadmin | nova-api provides the api | 10:55 |
| uksysadmin | nova-compute allows you to spin up instances | 10:56 |
| kesor_ | it doesnt sound so complete if you need to give it mysql, and rabbitmq, and whatnot. | 10:56 |
| uksysadmin | kesor_... ???? | 10:56 |
| kesor_ | what is the bare minimum I need to run api requests that don't spin anything, just the api … nova-api? | 10:56 |
| uksysadmin | are you suggesting the project re-invents the wheel and produces its own database, messaging system, etc? | 10:56 |
| uksysadmin | its built using open standards | 10:57 |
| uksysadmin | nova-api will allow you to send commands... but that's like saying you only need the car door and not the whole care... you can have a door that opens, but you need the rest to make it into a car | 10:57 |
| kesor_ | guess i'll read the installation guide :/ | 10:57 |
| uksysadmin | kesor_: do you want virtualisation or a cloud environment? | 10:58 |
| kesor_ | i want the openstack api. | 10:58 |
| kesor_ | :) | 10:58 |
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| uksysadmin | what for? | 10:58 |
| uksysadmin | without the other components those messages go nowhere | 10:58 |
| kesor_ | to write software that talks to it, and then use it for rackspace/etc. | 10:58 |
| kesor_ | i don't need them to go anywhere, not really. | 10:59 |
| uksysadmin | kesor_, but when you talk to rackspace endpoint api, you're talking to the equivalent of the openstack nova-api | 10:59 |
| uksysadmin | you don't go: nova-api -> rackspace-api | 10:59 |
| kesor_ | ok, a simpler question … is there a livecd with openstack installed that I can use to talk with? | 10:59 |
| uksysadmin | there is one in progress | 10:59 |
| uksysadmin | easier to install ubuntu then run devstack | 11:00 |
| kesor_ | excellent, sounds like the perfect solution to what I need I think. | 11:00 |
| uksysadmin | ok | 11:00 |
| kesor_ | found it here http://nova.openstack.org/livecd.html | 11:00 |
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| LarsErikP | in the creation of endpoints in keystone. The example only shows for nova. The URLs are different for keeystone, ec2 and glance, right? anyone remember the ports? | 11:05 |
| LarsErikP | and urls... | 11:05 |
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| chmouel | LarsErikP: I would advise to look over devstack: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/files/keystone_data.sh | 11:08 |
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| chmouel | LarsErikP: in general i would install devstack in a VM and try to copy and paste the bit needed from your working devstack env | 11:09 |
| foexle | uksysadmin: sry kernel panic -.- | 11:09 |
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| uksysadmin | awesome - Nova RC1 officially out | 11:22 |
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| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel: Flo-Rider... how are you? | 11:24 |
| uksysadmin | I got swift and keystone working a charm | 11:24 |
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| uksysadmin | thanks to you guys and chmouel and agy | 11:24 |
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| chmouel | uksysadmin: great! | 11:24 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, Steaming. | 11:25 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, really crappy day so far -- debugging BOMs and corporate shit I hate | 11:25 |
| FlorianOtel | anyway | 11:25 |
| FlorianOtel | how's going for you ? Was just thinking to debug that doc, fix the swift proxy conf and shoot it over | 11:25 |
| FlorianOtel | I haven't even time to look at chmouel 's pad either :( | 11:26 |
| FlorianOtel | bad, really bad. | 11:26 |
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| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel: yes, you should feel bad. :p | 11:29 |
| uksysadmin | ;-) | 11:29 |
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| uksysadmin | all is good - just doing a reinstall of a box to have as a second compute node and a test swift server too so I've got something akin to a useable openstack environment | 11:30 |
| uksysadmin | allow me to troubleshoot some networking, etc | 11:30 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, Don't tell me you got glance on swift w/ keystone auth 2.0 | 11:32 |
| FlorianOtel | just give me smth to cling on :) | 11:32 |
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| LarsErikP | hmmm got 401 when uploading image... the token it wants.. that is the keystone admin token? | 11:47 |
| oneiroi | LarsErikP: if you have linked glance + nova to keystone then yes | 11:50 |
| LarsErikP | not installed nova yet... guide says glance first :p | 11:50 |
| oneiroi | ah | 11:51 |
| oneiroi | just running glance+nova here atm from 2011.3 EPEL packages ... can't say I've tried glance + keystone only, can't see why it wouldn't work | 11:51 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, mail on its way. | 11:51 |
| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel, yes I have swift and keystone v2.0 auth | 11:52 |
| LarsErikP | oneiroi: okey.. no need for images yet anyways. Can install nova first. no prob. | 11:52 |
| LarsErikP | but why would that make a difference? | 11:52 |
| * FlorianOtel is going for a quick lunch before heading to the dentist. | 11:52 | |
| LarsErikP | oneiroi: running essex rc1 btw | 11:52 |
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| alexn6 | uksysadmin, can you show yor keystone conf please? you have ubuntu repo openstack diablo install? | 12:09 |
| alexn6 | uksysadmin, and swift keystone filter config also | 12:11 |
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| uksysadmin | alexn6: I've been concentrating on Essex on 12.04 and the keystone configs have moved on somewhat | 12:13 |
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| alexn6 | uksysadmin, do yo know if one can use essex release keystone with older swift/nova releases? Is it worth for larger functionality? | 12:16 |
| LarsErikP | uksysadmin: know why I get 401 when trying to upload an image? :s | 12:20 |
| uksysadmin | hmmm... I've seen updates to nova that were needed for keystone... not 100% sure if that configuration to be honest. | 12:20 |
| LarsErikP | to glance | 12:20 |
| uksysadmin | 401 - A | 12:21 |
| uksysadmin | Unauthorized | 12:21 |
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| uksysadmin | check your user/pass creds in keystone | 12:21 |
| uksysadmin | and that you're specifying the correct tenant | 12:21 |
| LarsErikP | pretty sure i'm entering right cred | 12:21 |
| uksysadmin | I tend to run keystone-all in a terminal to see the gory debug details | 12:22 |
| uksysadmin | check you are authorized | 12:22 |
| uksysadmin | you also need to be a member of the 'admin' group too within your tenant for an upload to work | 12:22 |
| uksysadmin | iirc | 12:22 |
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| LarsErikP | i have my adminUser user, who is granted the adminRole role.. | 12:23 |
| LarsErikP | in the openstackDemo tenant | 12:23 |
| uksysadmin | adminRole isn't a standard role... unless you have that specified as a role that is an admin | 12:23 |
| LarsErikP | hmm | 12:23 |
| LarsErikP | i may have to fix that.. just followed the guide :s http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/setting-up-tenants-users-and-roles.html | 12:24 |
| TREllis | uksysadmin: did you manage to get the ec2 api bits working yet? | 12:24 |
| uksysadmin | TREllis: not yet | 12:25 |
| uksysadmin | my setup: ubuntu 12.04, Essex from Ubuntu (last updated packages were Friday), keystone, glance, nova and swift with keystone. can use swift and nova client tools, not euca | 12:26 |
| uksysadmin | dashboard still broken for me too | 12:26 |
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| uksysadmin | once I've just finished a re-install of a second compute node I'll tackle "swift+keystone+glance" which I believe should be doable now? /cc chmouel ? | 12:27 |
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| LarsErikP | what env-variables do i need to set? i'm tired of specifying --username and so on for the keystone-commands | 12:30 |
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| chmouel | uksysadmin: there is a HP guy who's doing the change on glance, it should not be too hard (see one of the post this morning sent to the mailing list) | 12:32 |
| uksysadmin | chmouel: yeah will do. Florian sent me his workings so I'll see what I can follow, bearing in mind I'll be looking at doing this with debs as much as possible - else I'll wait until Friday/next week for the Ubuntu guys to catch up | 12:32 |
| uksysadmin | LarsErikP: just looking at that document... hmmm - think the role name has to match a config entry (either in keystone.conf or glance.conf - when I've finished an install I'll double check) | 12:32 |
| chmouel | uksysadmin: cool, hopefully things will get much more apt-getable quickly in the next couple of weeks now that RCs are coming out | 12:32 |
| uksysadmin | e.g. you can call your admin role "god" if you like, providing that keystone has been told that god is essentially an alias to the admin role | 12:32 |
| uksysadmin | chmouel: yes - hope so. it needs it. | 12:32 |
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| uksysadmin | LarsErikP: see if this helps: https://github.com/uksysadmin/OpenStackInstaller/blob/essex/upload_ubuntu.sh | 12:34 |
| chmouel | LarsErikP: something along those lines http://pastie.org/private/zj4ryxkznkr6s1vgla6czw | 12:35 |
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| uksysadmin | LarsErikP: sorry - I misread tired as tried | 12:35 |
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| LarsErikP | uksysadmin: so, how do i tell keystone that the adminRole actually is a admin-role? :s | 12:42 |
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| LarsErikP | chmouel: no OS_AUTH_KEY? | 12:45 |
| uksysadmin | LarsErikP: I just grepped 'admin' in /etc/keystone and in the policy.json there is a line: policy.json: "admin_required": [["role:admin"], ["is_admin:1"]] | 12:45 |
| LarsErikP | uksysadmin: ok, i'll check | 12:45 |
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| LarsErikP | uksysadmin: i have that to... changed it to "role:adminRole" | 12:57 |
| LarsErikP | no effect | 12:57 |
| uksysadmin | restarted services? | 12:58 |
| indiaswift | Hi, need some help on openstack swift formpost middleware | 12:59 |
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| notmyname | indiaswift: if you don't get an answer, ping me in an hour or so, and I'll try to help | 13:00 |
| indiaswift | Cool, thnx | 13:00 |
| livemoon | hi | 13:02 |
| livemoon | anyone can tell me how to configure vncproxy and xvnc | 13:03 |
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| TREllis | uksysadmin: likewise, I have all that going except swift with keystone | 13:04 |
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| LarsErikP | uksysadmin: suddenly worked... think i missed admin_token in glance-api.conf | 13:08 |
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| uksysadmin | TREllis: just got swift + keystone working in the last day | 13:19 |
| uksysadmin | LarsErikP: glad all working! | 13:19 |
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| kbringard | anyone remember the command to query your compute nodes for available resources? | 13:23 |
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| kbringard | ah, n/m, figured it out | 13:24 |
| kbringard | : nova-manage service update_resource —host= ... | 13:24 |
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| oNeToWn | hum, LarsErikP, any luck? | 13:31 |
| oNeToWn | I got a problem when register an image. http://paste.ubuntu.com/892172/ | 13:32 |
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| alexn6 | can anyone tell me If he can work from instance with public address assigned with that address itself? | 13:55 |
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| uksysadmin | alexn6: not sure what you mean? | 13:59 |
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| alexn6 | mm.. I see now this in docs - "Note that you cannot SSH to an instance with a public IP from within the same server as the routing configuration won't allow it." | 14:00 |
| alexn6 | I mean smth like this, but not only ssh | 14:00 |
| alexn6 | uksysadmin, clear? | 14:01 |
| LarsErikP | oNeToWn: managed to upload image now | 14:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960218 in keystone "belongsTo should validate on tenant ID not name" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960218 | 14:01 |
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| alexn6 | uksysadmin, can you check this? ssh from node with public IP to that IP | 14:05 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960226 in nova "Nova API os-hosts extension broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960226 | 14:06 |
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| oNeToWn | LarsErikP, sounds good. I still can not upload any shit now. >o | 14:10 |
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| uksysadmin | alexn6: you mean if I have a "public ip" assigned say 172.16.1.1 and I ssh to that instance. Then from that instance i want to ssh to 172.16.1.1 ? | 14:14 |
| alexn6 | uksysadmin, yes | 14:14 |
| uksysadmin | alexn6: why would you? | 14:15 |
| Dieterbe | is the hashing in swift consistent? as in, if nodes join the cluster, will the files get nicely redistributed with minimal overhead? | 14:15 |
| uksysadmin | you should get an ssh prompt up, but you won't be able to log in as the private key you used to log in to that instance won't be on that instance you spun up | 14:15 |
| alexn6 | uksysadmin, then just try to telnet 172.16.1.1 22 | 14:16 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: yes | 14:16 |
| alexn6 | can you just try? | 14:16 |
| uksysadmin | ah, yes - your instance has a private IP... it doesn't know about itself | 14:17 |
| uksysadmin | so you mightn't get an ssh prompt up | 14:17 |
| uksysadmin | it doesn't know, when inside the instance, it has a different IP assigned to it | 14:17 |
| alexn6 | it doesn`t matter - it go and ask dnsmasq on nova-compute | 14:18 |
| alexn6 | or smth like this | 14:18 |
| uksysadmin | alexn6: I'm failing to understand the use case for this... you would just ssh to localhost if you want to ssh to itself | 14:18 |
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| uksysadmin | or the private range | 14:18 |
| scoph | I'm getting "Object PUT returning 503, 1/2 required connections". running 'swift -A http://my-proxy:8080/auth/v1.0 my setup = 2-nodes, 2 zones, 4 drives-node/zone. I've confirmed that the rings are set up and that swift works and that the ports are listening on serverB. can anyone help? | 14:18 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: thanks, also, do you know what happens when nodes go offline? the files will get rebalanced and the mappings will be adjusted, right? | 14:19 |
| alexn6 | uksysadmin, we have some services, that want access itself via net and also must have public accessible urls for the same resources | 14:19 |
| LarsErikP | anyone experienced this? http://paste.openstack.org/show/11373/ essex | 14:19 |
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| scoph | soory, that should have read: 'swift -A http://my-proxy:8080/auth/v1.0 /auth/v1.0 -U system:me -K mypass upload myfiles /tmp/testfile1 | 14:20 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: if they get pulled from the ring, yes. otherwise, existing content will have one less replica and new content will get a replica put on a handoff node (to be moved when the down node comes back online) | 14:20 |
| uksysadmin | alexn6: then you access via hostname, not ip | 14:20 |
| LarsErikP | compute is throwing that stuff | 14:20 |
| uksysadmin | where the hostname internally will resolve to the internal IP | 14:20 |
| uksysadmin | and externally will resolve to the external IP | 14:20 |
| notmyname | scoph: check your object server logs to see why the 2nd PUT to the object server failed | 14:20 |
| notmyname | scoph: with 2 replicas, both must succeed on PUT for the proxy to return 2xx | 14:20 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: thanks. i'm comparing swift to ceph. we need a HA object store, size +- 100TB of files, avg 150MB upto 5GB (later, files will get bigger). file access preferably over linux vfs mount (although api is acceptable too). it seems to me ceph is a bit more promising, but less tested, whereas swift seems to have more production deployments | 14:23 |
| scoph | notmyname: I've been looking through them and haven't found any indicators as to why it's failing | 14:24 |
| scoph | probably time to crank up log_level | 14:24 |
| * FlorianOtel is back | 14:24 | |
| alexn6 | uksysadmin, we have working implementation of some package on real node, but to make it work in the cloud we had to make object like innerIP and outerIP -i.e. some kind of change concept and code rewriting. Also you may think about token and auth/certs etc. To me it looks like this is not very rare case, especially if you not know exactly what must be public and what is localhost_like enough | 14:24 |
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| LarsErikP | uksysadmin: do you know anything about my paste up there? | 14:25 |
| notmyname | scoph: one of your 2 storage nodes should have an error about why it couldn't write the object (permissions, drive not mounted, etc) | 14:25 |
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| alexn6 | uksysadmin, will try. don`t think about it. but then hostname must be in public dns, not only in dnsmask | 14:26 |
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| uksysadmin | alexn6: its how EC2 do it if it helps... seems like a good model to follow | 14:27 |
| alexn6 | uksysadmin, btw - real case - tokens in keystone for swift and ssl host cert - must be there an IP or name? | 14:27 |
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| uksysadmin | LarsErikP: are you missing a package? | 14:28 |
| LarsErikP | uksysadmin: maybe... don't which one.. but.. i created thedirectory.. stopped complaining | 14:29 |
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| LarsErikP | still something wrong about the roles... | 14:29 |
| uksysadmin | LarsErikP: actually scrub that - you must have a config issue | 14:29 |
| uksysadmin | its not present on my system | 14:29 |
| LarsErikP | aha | 14:29 |
| uksysadmin | and the instances suggests it should be /var/lib/nova/instances...? | 14:29 |
| LarsErikP | yeah.. it was that before... sec, i shall post conf | 14:30 |
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| LarsErikP | uksysadmin: http://paste.openstack.org/show/11374/ | 14:30 |
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| alexn6 | uksysadmin, I mean that in swift account has storage url with IP by default, and ssl cert of proxy usually is hostname - so when service with HTTPS want to use that cert it must use cert with IP not with hostname | 14:32 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: so, any thoughts on swift vs ceph for blob storage? | 14:33 |
| Dieterbe | or anyone else, for that matter | 14:33 |
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| LarsErikP | how do I ensure that a role in keystone actually _is_ a admin role? | 14:38 |
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| uksysadmin | LarsErikP: this is done on a per-service basis | 14:40 |
| uksysadmin | in swift this is specfied in /etc/swift/proxy-server.conf | 14:41 |
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| uksysadmin | [filter:keystone] | 14:41 |
| uksysadmin | paste.filter_factory = keystone.middleware.swift_auth:filter_factory | 14:41 |
| uksysadmin | operator_roles = Member,admin | 14:41 |
| uksysadmin | in glance this seems to be /etc/glance/policy.json | 14:41 |
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| LarsErikP | okey. then i need to check horizon | 14:42 |
| uksysadmin | alexn6: ssl cert can be hostname or ip | 14:42 |
| LarsErikP | uksysadmin: leaving for work now... talk tonthon wstgrd :-) | 14:42 |
| LarsErikP | talk to* | 14:42 |
| uksysadmin | np see ya | 14:42 |
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| dachary | Hi, is there a HOWTO explaining how to retrieve an AMI from AWS to store it in glance ? | 14:43 |
| alexn6 | uksysadmin, ok. Thanks a lot for good advice! | 14:43 |
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| uksysadmin | np | 14:45 |
| swill | i am finding that slogging has data for the same hour in more than one log, should the values be summed together? | 14:46 |
| swill | that is probably a question for notmyname | 14:46 |
| notmyname | swill: that's expected (or at least not unusual). in whatever importer/aggr you are using for the resulting files, you should combine them (note that storage numbers should not be summed) | 14:47 |
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| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, ok..now that was new to me (wrt /etc/glance/policy.json). Mind pointing me to docs ? | 14:48 |
| swill | ok, i need to check which numbers are storage. so are storage numbers the total storage used to that date? | 14:48 |
| FlorianOtel | or, for that matter, the format for that file ? | 14:48 |
| annegentle | dachary: hm,not that I know of, but good idea for a howto | 14:49 |
| scoph | notmyname: this is all I'm seeing so far: https://gist.github.com/2136418 | 14:49 |
| swill | notmyname: storage is a total in its self and is not the storage added in that period. | 14:49 |
| scoph | notmyname: hah, nevermind. I think I found the problem | 14:50 |
| dachary | annegentle: it looks like this is not possible : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3893614/download-an-amazon-ec2-ami https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=131841 | 14:50 |
| notmyname | swill: the storage number is in bytes and is the average number found in the files processed in that log processing run. yes, it's total, not a delta | 14:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960261 in glance "Need policy control over making images public" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960261 | 14:50 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960265 in nova "DescribeVolumes EC2 API issues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960265 | 14:50 |
| zynzel | any good habits to drop traffic from vm to openstack infrastructure? (for example from vm you have access to ALL volumes in nova-volume, from vm you have access to compute-node ssh) | 14:51 |
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| swill | notmyname: is that only the 'bytes_used' field or are there other storage fields that i am not recognizing? | 14:51 |
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| notmyname | swill: that's the only one | 14:52 |
| swill | ok ty. | 14:52 |
| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel: I was guessing... was the only place that mentioned "admin"... see /etc/glance/policy.json | 14:53 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, On that, I'm reading Jay P. answer here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/953989/comments/2 wrt to "long-lived" tokens being now deprecated | 14:54 |
| uksysadmin | although... erm.... I grepped before and it was there... my file is empty now | 14:54 |
| uksysadmin | :S | 14:54 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, (so is mine) | 14:54 |
| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel, yeah - its all about user/pass | 14:54 |
| * uksysadmin wonders who's server he grepped before! | 14:54 | |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, ok, so what do we do with in swift then ? | 14:55 |
| uksysadmin | ah no | 14:55 |
| uksysadmin | it was /etc/keystone/policy.json | 14:55 |
| annegentle | dachary: ah, ok. | 14:55 |
| uksysadmin | for glance, there are no restrictions on creating machines | 14:56 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, "Keystone...Glance...it's all policy.json to me" huh :)) ? | 14:56 |
| FlorianOtel | sorry mate, just kidding | 14:56 |
| uksysadmin | :) | 14:56 |
| uksysadmin | haha | 14:56 |
| uksysadmin | my swift set up is good now | 14:56 |
| uksysadmin | I've not had a chance to read your blog... | 14:56 |
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| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, yes, but does it use a long-lived token or username/pass | 14:57 |
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| FlorianOtel | in "tokenauth" middleware | 14:57 |
| uksysadmin | ah, see what you mean | 14:57 |
| uksysadmin | erm... tbh, not sure | 14:57 |
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| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, oh, so Jay must have meant that the concept was deprecated only in Glance / Nova | 14:58 |
| FlorianOtel | but not in Swift | 14:58 |
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| alexn6 | uksysadmin, one more thing - what if I configure service with dnsmasq hostname, and then try on outer machine use URLs to objects with that hostname in path. And real DNS not know about machine at all or have other name. If I don`t allow to make static reference in real DNS, I must use publicIP and then again this scheme will not work straightforwardly. Do you know such cases? | 14:58 |
| FlorianOtel | brilliant. Tripple Hurray for consistency ! | 14:58 |
| uksysadmin | lol | 14:59 |
| uksysadmin | yes looking in proxy-server.conf for keystone setup, I have tokens and user/pass | 14:59 |
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| swill | notmyname: if you are going to bill on 'bytes used', would you bill based on the largest 'bytes used' number in the billing period? | 14:59 |
| uksysadmin | alexn6: my head just exploded reading that. | 14:59 |
| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel: I guess it *should* use short lived user/pass generated tokens | 15:00 |
| notmyname | swill: no, we use the average (mean). the number could be high or low depending on different conditions, so the mean is "good enough". especially since it's calculated hourly but billed monthly | 15:00 |
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| uksysadmin | not the ADMIN/999888777666 token hard set - that was what jaypipe was referring to | 15:00 |
| swill | notmyname: ok, that makes sense. thanks. | 15:01 |
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| alexn6 | uksysadmin, ups. sorry then. Nevermind :) Simply - you have http server and give users urls to objects in it for a local and external services, but cannot change real DNS, then just http://hostname/object will not work. | 15:04 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, dude. your mixing things up -- or I misunderstand you badly. "proxy-server.conf" is swift proxy config. The "tokenauth" section is Keystone middleware . And to me the configs for that middleware should be the same in both Swift and Glance | 15:04 |
| FlorianOtel | i.e. in "proxy-server.conf" for Swift, resp "glance-api-paste.ini" for glance | 15:05 |
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| FlorianOtel | And, come to think of it, it's called "tokenauth" in proxy-server.conf and "authtoken" in glance-api-registry.ini. | 15:07 |
| FlorianOtel | Meaning that we can call them "icyposicletokenauthonastick" if we want to | 15:07 |
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| FlorianOtel | fark | 15:08 |
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| stmod | hi all | 15:09 |
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| stmod | I am doing a research in comparing the API of Openstack with other cloud APIs. Can someone help me? | 15:11 |
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| stmod | does exist documents explaing the relationship between OpenStack and the other APIs ? | 15:13 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, Now I got me totally confused. My swift is happily using the admin token but glance -- referring to same middleware -- can't / shouldn't (as per Jay's comment). Ok, clear as mud. | 15:13 |
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| * uksysadmin thinks everyone is smoking crack in #openstack today | 15:14 | |
| uksysadmin | ;-) | 15:15 |
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| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, pass the pipe, I'd happily "joint" the party :) | 15:15 |
| uksysadmin | alexn6: sorry - I'm doing some day job work and getting distracted... I'll have to help you another day, sorry. | 15:15 |
| uksysadmin | pass the pipe? think you're hogging it. | 15:15 |
| uksysadmin | hands up if you think FlorianOtel is a nutter? | 15:16 |
| uksysadmin | o/ | 15:16 |
| uksysadmin | :S | 15:16 |
| uksysadmin | ;-0 | 15:16 |
| * FlorianOtel raises two hands | 15:16 | |
| blamar | stmod: I haven't seen anything comprehensive, but off the top of my head there is the SimpleCloud project which attempts to deal with a bunch of different cloud APIs?so that might be helpful? | 15:16 |
| uksysadmin | just checking | 15:16 |
| uksysadmin | So yes, proxy-server.conf is like the api-paste stuff - they enable the interaction with keystone for that service | 15:17 |
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| stmod | blamar: thank you, I will have a look to that project, because I am really confused about this topic. | 15:17 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, bingo | 15:17 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, i.e. "auth_token" middleware | 15:17 |
| uksysadmin | I'm just happy that I've got a working setup - think if those long live tokens disappear, it will just be another release of OpenStack | 15:17 |
| uksysadmin | or another day | 15:17 |
| alexn6 | uksysadmin, all well. You`ve managed to help me. I know that it`s uneasy to work and answer here. Good day to you! | 15:18 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, so, as my swift is working perfectly fine with that setup | 15:18 |
| uksysadmin | np! | 15:18 |
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| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel: I think you have an advantage, you're using github source | 15:18 |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, why the actual fsck cannot glance / nova -- using the same middleware -- cannot / | 15:18 |
| uksysadmin | I'm bound to the ubuntu folks | 15:18 |
| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel: I get you | 15:18 |
| uksysadmin | technically, yes, it should be the same mechanism | 15:19 |
| uksysadmin | send user/pass, get token back | 15:19 |
| uksysadmin | ? | 15:19 |
| * FlorianOtel reminds uksysadmin that he's still hogging the pipe | 15:19 | |
| uksysadmin | point taken | 15:19 |
| FlorianOtel | so no, I'm not using github :) | 15:19 |
| blamar | stmod: Sure, let me know if I can help reduce confusion at all. | 15:19 |
| FlorianOtel | no dude, I'm freaking not. | 15:19 |
| FlorianOtel | I'm using Essex-4 keystone + swift v1.4.6 and -- up to this point -- glance Essex-4 | 15:20 |
| stmod | @blamr: may we have a priv chat? | 15:20 |
| stmod | sorry blamar | 15:20 |
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| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel: I'm on Ubuntu 12.04 B1, E4~RC1 kinda world from the Ubuntu repos for Nova, Glance, Keystone, Swift | 15:20 |
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| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, That's cheating. | 15:21 |
| uksysadmin | hahaha | 15:21 |
| uksysadmin | something about deploying tested packaged code kinda fits here though... crazy as we are ;-) | 15:22 |
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| FlorianOtel | I think I need to pull the latest keystone (is it RC1 now ?) and look at auth_token there, and send a mail to the list to sort this out. | 15:24 |
| swill | notmyname: i am finding that 'container_requests' seems to be an ever increasing number as time passes. is that field also a total? | 15:24 |
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| * uksysadmin goes and puts on his "I'm with crazy T-shirt" | 15:24 | |
| * FlorianOtel goes types crazy mail mail to the mailing list and and spoofs it as from a certain email addie from UK :) | 15:26 | |
| dolphm | FlorianOtel: RC1 is coming, but not out yet | 15:26 |
| uksysadmin | FlorianOtel: I don't think our Queen cares you're faking her mail addy again though | 15:27 |
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| notmyname | swill: I think that should be the count of requests in the processed logs. so yes, a total for that run | 15:30 |
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| swill | notmyname: does that explain why each successive log has an increased number for that? so to figure out the number of requests in a period, i need to find the value for 'container_requests' at the beginning of my period and subtract that from the last entry in my period? | 15:34 |
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| notmyname | swill: hmmm....that's not what I'd expect (but I haven't looked at that part of the code in a while) | 15:35 |
| swill | notmyname: its not what i was expecting either, but that is what it is looking like from what i am seeing. | 15:36 |
| swill | notmyname: its not hugely important because i am not billing on that right now. | 15:37 |
| swill | notmyname: i just wanted to understand. :) | 15:37 |
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| notmyname | swill: a quick glance at the code makes it seem like it should just be a total of container-level requests for that log processing run | 15:40 |
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| swill | notmyname: i will need to do a bunch of testing with controlled data to ensure everything works as expected, so i will do some testing of this when i do that. | 15:42 |
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| uksysadmin | has anyone had experience of using keystone, swift and setting acls using the swift tool? | 15:44 |
| swill | uksysadmin: yes, i have done that | 15:45 |
| swill | uksysadmin: i am not using keystone anymore though, so i am not sure if I will be much help because i cant really test anything right now. | 15:45 |
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| uksysadmin | swill: no probs | 15:46 |
| swill | uksysadmin: are you having specific problems? | 15:46 |
| uksysadmin | swill: I've setup a user, 'member' who is just a 'Member' in the 'demo' tenant. | 15:46 |
| uksysadmin | I created a container in my swift environment called 'test' by a user that was an admin | 15:47 |
| uksysadmin | swift -V 2.0 -A http://172.15.0.1:5000/v2.0/ -U demo:demo -K openstack post test -w demo:member | 15:47 |
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| uksysadmin | (demo user is admin in demo tenant) | 15:47 |
| uksysadmin | I assumed that -w option allowed member in the demo tenant write access | 15:47 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: one sec, i am checking what i had written. i did it in chef, so i should have what i had working at one point (i know keystone has changed since i had that setup working). | 15:49 |
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| * swill checking... | 15:49 | |
| uksysadmin | awesome. thanks swill. | 15:49 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: i will have to check, but i am not sure that you can change the permissions on a container once it is set. you may have to create the container with the permissions set. i remember something like that. i am still checking. | 15:52 |
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| uksysadmin | ok - never thought of that - can play | 15:53 |
| uksysadmin | ah, could be me... | 15:54 |
| uksysadmin | when trying to write to a container, I get the following: | 15:54 |
| uksysadmin | Error trying to create container 'test2': 403 Forbidden: 403 Forbidden | 15:54 |
| uksysadmin | (as the member user) | 15:54 |
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| kbringard | what sort of memory oversubscription ratios do people recommend? | 15:55 |
| kbringard | like, allocated to vms : total compute host memory | 15:56 |
| uksysadmin | actually, no - the Account is consistent: (Account: AUTH_5a015a68e21f40b6bae8975e815ac703 in my case) | 15:56 |
| uksysadmin | which is AUTH_$(tenant_id)s in my keystone setup | 15:57 |
| blamar | kbringard: I like a 1:1 :) Good performance. | 15:57 |
| kbringard | blamar: hehe, fair enough | 15:57 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: so i was only trying to set ACL on creation of a container. i am not sure if that was because i could not get it to work otherwise or if that is all i was testing. | 15:59 |
| swill | uksysadmin: in the auth middlewhere i wrote, i allow for acl to be an account. here is how i set the acl. | 16:00 |
| swill | swift -v -A http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1.0 -U $account_1_user -K $account_1_key post -r $account_2_name -w $account_2_name swift_container | 16:00 |
| swill | this would give read and write access to account 2 on the container swift_container | 16:01 |
| uksysadmin | swill: yes that's the syntax I've just done | 16:02 |
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| uksysadmin | swift -V 2.0 -A http://172.15.0.1:5000/v2.0/ -U demo:user -K openstack stat test2 Account: AUTH_5a015a68e21f40b6bae8975e815ac703 | 16:02 |
| uksysadmin | Container: test2 | 16:02 |
| uksysadmin | Objects: 0 | 16:02 |
| uksysadmin | Bytes: 0 | 16:02 |
| uksysadmin | Read ACL: demo:member | 16:02 |
| uksysadmin | Write ACL: demo:member | 16:02 |
| uksysadmin | Sync To: | 16:02 |
| uksysadmin | Sync Key: | 16:02 |
| uksysadmin | Accept-Ranges: bytes | 16:02 |
| uksysadmin | (user is also an admin in demo) | 16:02 |
| armaan | Does latest devstack support fedora too ?? | 16:02 |
| swill | uksysadmin: so is it working? it seems to have the right acl set (no?) | 16:04 |
| uksysadmin | swill: no | 16:04 |
| uksysadmin | my proxy-server.conf is set so that only users with 'admin' role are an admin | 16:04 |
| uksysadmin | member is just a member of 'Member' | 16:04 |
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| uksysadmin | and I get 403 when trying to upload a file to that test2 container | 16:04 |
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| uksysadmin | syslog shows a 403 for PUT /v1/AUTH_xxx/test2 | 16:06 |
| uksysadmin | and correctly identifies the user being just a member of 'Member' | 16:06 |
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| uksysadmin | I'll post to the mailing list to see if its something that has crept in recently | 16:07 |
| swill | uksysadmin: is 'Member' and 'demo:member' different? | 16:07 |
| swill | uksysadmin: are you using tokenauth or swiftauth? | 16:07 |
| uksysadmin | swill: member has been assigned the 'Member' role in the 'demo' tenant | 16:07 |
| uksysadmin | tokenauth | 16:08 |
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| uksysadmin | armaan: its a shell script for ubuntu | 16:09 |
| armaan | uksysadmin: i heard the latest also support for fedora | 16:09 |
| uksysadmin | maybe they have a fork of it... www.devstack.org - only used Ubuntu 11.10 for it | 16:10 |
| russellb | it hasn't been merged in yet | 16:10 |
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| armaan | same here, only tried it on ubuntu | 16:10 |
| russellb | you can try it from here though: https://review.openstack.org/#change,4364 | 16:11 |
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| russellb | armaan: ^ | 16:12 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: it just occured to me. you are using tempauth style acl groups. maybe try with just the role name. if i remember correctly token auth did not require the role to be the same syntax. | 16:13 |
| uksysadmin | ok | 16:15 |
| uksysadmin | swill: tried that originally and it failed, but tried again to be sure. and still 403. | 16:15 |
| swill | ok | 16:16 |
| FlorianOtel | phew. | 16:16 |
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| FlorianOtel | that took a while to write down | 16:16 |
| FlorianOtel | let's see if anyone can make sense of it :) | 16:16 |
| * uksysadmin goes to check his email for an epic. Grabs popcorn too. | 16:16 | |
| FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, grab the biggest bag you can find mate -- it is going to be epic. | 16:17 |
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| uksysadmin | swill: you've been a help - I'm sure you've other things to do. I'll post a mail to the mailing list to see if any can see any failing in what I'm trying to do. | 16:18 |
| swill | uksysadmin: just so you know. there used to be a bug in tokenauth (https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/890415) which was causing it to not handle acl correctly. this was why i originally changed from tokenauth to swiftauth (to solve that problem). | 16:19 |
| swill | uksysadmin: since then I wrote my own auth middleware and removed keystone completely, so i am not up-to-date with the current status of keystone (and tokenauth). | 16:19 |
| swill | uksysadmin: just found this... using swift auth, i was setting ACL with: | 16:21 |
| swill | swift --auth-version 2.0 -A http://127.0.0.1:5000/v1.0 -U company:company_admin -K testing post -r User -w User company | 16:21 |
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| swill | the 'company' at the end is actually the container name | 16:21 |
| uksysadmin | swill: so that is just the user and not tenant:user | 16:22 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: yes... this was my test script to make sure my acl was working with swift_auth: http://pastebin.com/yfsvJVEv | 16:23 |
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| swill | --auth-version 2.0 was required to make that work. | 16:24 |
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| uksysadmin | I could even be tripping over myself with the different middleware and the like... and the flag: operator_roles... I mistook that as admin role | 16:24 |
| swill | also setting up the keystone database correctly was key. let me see if i can find more files i can give you to show how my setup was configured. | 16:25 |
| uksysadmin | your tests don't test ACL, just that your admin user can upload and delete things? I'd expect User to be auth'd to test the upload | 16:25 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: no, the admin creates a container that allows a user to upload and download. then it uses the user to test if they can upload and download. notice that the user is different. | 16:28 |
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| swill | here was my keystone conf file: http://pastebin.com/2iZLfMkB | 16:28 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: and this is how i configured keystone. http://pastebin.com/Hm2WsKUj | 16:29 |
| swill | uksysadmin: sorry that some of the naming of roles and such are kind of ugly. | 16:30 |
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| uksysadmin | swill: ah yes | 16:31 |
| swill | uksysadmin: my proxy conf was this: http://pastebin.com/LcS4VtFL | 16:31 |
| swill | uksysadmin: did that shed some light on things? | 16:32 |
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| uksysadmin | I don't understand the relationship between: -U company:company_user and post -r User -w User | 16:33 |
| zomGreg | what controls the X-Storage-Url that's returned from an auth attempt to the swift endpoint? | 16:33 |
| zomGreg | i auth against 10.1.2.3 and I get a 127.0.0.1 as the X-Storage-Url | 16:33 |
| zomGreg | what do I need to tweak to make it report 10.1.2.3 as the X-Storage-Url? | 16:34 |
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| uksysadmin | swill: ahh.. peny drops.. is 'User' a role, not a user... | 16:36 |
| uksysadmin | (recalls you said this!) | 16:36 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: yes. :) | 16:36 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: check this to see how my user, role, etc is setup in keystone: http://pastebin.com/Hm2WsKUj | 16:37 |
| swill | uksysadmin: keep in mind that i have not used keystone in a few months and i know it has been changing, so this is the last working state i had, but i have not tested in months. | 16:38 |
| uksysadmin | swill: well something is different... but end result the same: 403 | 16:38 |
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| uksysadmin | but in logs I get: "user xxx:member allowed in ACL: Member authorizing | 16:39 |
| swill | uksysadmin: make sure you have configured the Admin and KeystoneServiceAdmin roles (which are defined in your keystone conf). if you dont, you will get 403's all day. (if i remember correctly). | 16:39 |
| uksysadmin | but preceding I get a 403 | 16:39 |
| uksysadmin | yeah Admin is now 'admin' in keystone light (or that's the trend these days!) | 16:40 |
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| swill | and the KeystoneServiceAdmin role? | 16:40 |
| swill | or the equivalent in your keystone.conf file | 16:40 |
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| uksysadmin | no don't have one of those... think that's replaced by the keystone user in the service tenant | 16:40 |
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| swill | uksysadmin: here was my keystone conf file for reference: http://pastebin.com/2iZLfMkB | 16:41 |
| swill | if those are not setup correctly i know you will have issues. | 16:42 |
| uksysadmin | swill: it has done it | 16:42 |
| uksysadmin | weird | 16:42 |
| swill | whats that? | 16:42 |
| uksysadmin | I get a 403 but then I see a 200 | 16:42 |
| uksysadmin | when I upload now, it works | 16:42 |
| swill | did you change anything? | 16:42 |
| uksysadmin | but it says "can't create container... xxxx...." and then uploads the file anyway | 16:42 |
| uksysadmin | only the role bit - the bit where I missed what you put about role and thought user | 16:43 |
| swill | uksysadmin: you could be using a bad syntax for the swift tool. look at my test file to see what was working for me. | 16:43 |
| uksysadmin | looks like a bug now | 16:43 |
| swill | right | 16:43 |
| dolphm | uksysadmin: that's correct KeystoneServiceAdmin role has been replaced | 16:43 |
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| swill | dolphm: thanks for confirming that for us. :) | 16:43 |
| dolphm | post essex-4, i think | 16:43 |
| dolphm | np | 16:44 |
| swill | it has been a while since i have worked with keysone | 16:44 |
| swill | but i am glad we got you going. :) | 16:44 |
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| uksysadmin | swift --auth-version 2.0 -A http://172.15.0.1:5000/v2.0 -U demo:member -K openstack upload test4 /tmp/test/test2 | 16:44 |
| uksysadmin | Error trying to create container 'test4': 403 Forbidden: 403 Forbidden | 16:44 |
| uksysadmin | Access was denied to this resource. | 16:44 |
| uksysadmin | 16:44 | |
| uksysadmin | tmp/test/test2 | 16:44 |
| uksysadmin | see the 403 then the 200 | 16:44 |
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| uksysadmin | def in a better place | 16:45 |
| uksysadmin | I'll check for bugs now | 16:45 |
| uksysadmin | does seem like a bug - trying to create a container before uploading | 16:45 |
| robix | can anyone confirm the chance scheduler can crash compute hosts? I hear it doesn't check for resources first so it can over allocate crashing the host.... | 16:46 |
| swill | uksysadmin: ya, it is a better place to be troubleshooting from. good luck. :) | 16:47 |
| uksysadmin | swill: yes, definitely. thank you! | 16:48 |
| swill | uksysadmin: np. :) | 16:48 |
| uksysadmin | I'm out of here now - great timing! | 16:48 |
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| Glacee | Is there a reason why swift 1.4.7 is only packaged for precise? | 17:42 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: ttx: ^? | 17:42 |
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| Glacee | well.. 1.4.8 would be more relevant now.. I just saw that ti has been released :0 | 17:45 |
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| reed | Glacee, isn't that a question for Ubuntu? | 17:49 |
| annegentle | Glacee: bring it up at the team meeting, someone said something about choosing 1.4.7 at the last team meeting | 17:50 |
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| mtaylor | notmyname: def more of a question for zul | 17:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960437 in nova "CLI volume-snapshot creation error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960437 | 17:56 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: gotcha. thanks | 17:56 |
| notmyname | mtaylor: do you need anything from me at the CI meeting today? | 17:57 |
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| mtaylor | notmyname: nope | 17:59 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960441 in horizon "kernel and ramdisk id should not be required" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960441 | 18:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960443 in horizon "image names should not be limited to 25 characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960443 | 18:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960445 in horizon "firefox instance and volumes page weirdness" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960445 | 18:01 |
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| longoria | In the "Volumes" table, is the "ec2_id" being used? I don't see a reference to it in the Volume class, in models.py... | 18:02 |
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| Maroo | Hi everybody...i'm just another guy who needs some help :) | 18:26 |
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| Maroo | Hi everybody...i'm just another guy who needs some help :) | 18:28 |
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| kbringard | can someone tell me what exactly the cc_host is used for? | 18:29 |
| Maroo | i'm developing a ftp-like client, with REST, for swift cloud storage, using java | 18:29 |
| Maroo | and i need some examples :) | 18:29 |
| kbringard | I mean, I know it's supposed to be the host of the nova api server, but what actually uses that flag? | 18:29 |
| chmouel | Maroo: you can maybe start from https://github.com/chmouel/ftp-cloudfs | 18:30 |
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| Maroo | @chmouel thank you | 18:32 |
| kbringard | n/m, looks like it's not used anymore | 18:32 |
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| mugu | java :{ | 18:34 |
| Maroo | chmouel: but i need something in java | 18:34 |
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| chmouel | I think the java-cloudfiles api could be a start | 18:35 |
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| justinsb_ | Maroo: Check out https://github.com/justinsb/openstack-java-sdk | 18:38 |
| justinsb_ | Luis & I have been working on a Java binding & we hope to release it "real soon now" | 18:38 |
| justinsb_ | Includes swift support | 18:38 |
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| Maroo | justinsb_: thanks :) | 18:39 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960487 in openstack-common "Request deserializer does not pass an empty body" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960487 | 18:53 |
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| Madkiss | okay. So with the current Ubuntu 12.04 packages, can I get a working nova+keystone+glance+quantum+horizon+swift? | 18:57 |
| jeblair | annegentle: ping | 18:57 |
| jeblair | annegentle: i have a "how to use the documentation as a user" question... :) | 18:57 |
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| jeblair | i'd like to know more about what attributes are required/optional, and what they mean. for example looking at this page: http://docs.openstack.org/api/openstack-identity-service/2.0/content/POST_authenticate_v2.0_tokens_Admin_API_Service_Developer_Operations-d1e1356.html | 18:58 |
| koolhead17 | ttx, seems like busy day 4 you today!! :) | 18:58 |
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| jeblair | i'm wondering (a) is tenantid required? (b) what does it mean in that context? and, skipping ahead a bit, (c) what's the deal with tenantid vs tenantname? :) | 18:59 |
| jeblair | annegentle: so is there somewhere else i should be looking for that info? | 18:59 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: hm. thinking | 19:06 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: the identity API docs are in disarray, for one. | 19:06 |
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| annegentle | jeblair: especially the admin API commands | 19:06 |
| annegentle | jeblair: this is probably the more accurate page: http://keystone.openstack.org/api_curl_examples.html#id1 | 19:07 |
| koolhead17 | jeblair, the best place i would suggest is https://github.com/openstack/keystone/tree/master/doc/source | 19:08 |
| koolhead17 | hey annegentle | 19:08 |
| annegentle | koolhead17: hey | 19:08 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle, i got the mail :( | 19:08 |
| annegentle | koolhead17: yeah, saw it :( | 19:08 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle, thanks :D | 19:09 |
| annegentle | heckj: what do you want to do about the Identity API dev guide that jeblair refers to above? | 19:09 |
| koolhead17 | jeblair, are you trying keystone from source? | 19:09 |
| jeblair | koolhead17: i'm trying to use libcloud with an openstack provider, and they both do things a little differently. i'd like to submit bug reports, but it would be great to back up my assertions with some documentation | 19:10 |
| jeblair | rather than "other people seem to do it this other way" :) | 19:11 |
| * koolhead17 googles to find what is libcloud | 19:11 | |
| jeblair | and i actually don't have any idea whether keystone is in use, which is why i need to know what the API is supposed to be | 19:11 |
| heckj | jeblair: the original WADLs lacked any additional detail to explain context of how to use. It presumes a LOT of a-priori knowledge | 19:12 |
| heckj | annegentle: generally fix it, but I've been heads down with the RC1 cuts and haven't spent anything other than light time on docs efforts (including editing WADL's to generate additional detail) | 19:12 |
| annegentle | heckj: yeah it is really difficult to hack on. | 19:14 |
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| andrewbogott | Does essex nova require keystone, or is that change not happening until folsom? | 19:14 |
| heckj | andrewbogott: I don't know about require, but it's definitely fully supported. | 19:15 |
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| annegentle | heckj: I can't really fix 'em since I lack the knowledge :) | 19:15 |
| andrewbogott | I'm upgrading a diablo install to essex, wondering if I can coast along with the old auth setup for now. | 19:15 |
| heckj | annegentle: I've got most of the knowledge now, just need the time to sit down and hack it up with details | 19:15 |
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| annegentle | heckj: jeblair should I remove that inaccurate doc? | 19:17 |
| annegentle | heckj: jeblair temporarily anyway? Seems we do a disservice by leaving it. | 19:18 |
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| ttx | koolhead17: lots of fun and long days :) | 19:44 |
| lxu | How do I use euca2ools with keystone? dont know how to generate the file credentials | 19:44 |
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| koolhead17 | ttx, TBH for the first time i have seen so many mails coming one after another :P | 19:45 |
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| koolhead17 | annegentle, https://answers.launchpad.net/keystone/+question/191217 am i doing anything wrong? | 19:47 |
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| annegentle | koolhead17: hm, I don't know. heckj? ^^ | 20:00 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle, won`t trouble heckj at this moment :) | 20:00 |
| * heckj looks | 20:01 | |
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| heckj | koolhead17: user update only updated name and password right now - doesn't update the tenant linkage. However, just adding a role to a user and a tenant (such as "Member") will link that user account to a tenant. | 20:03 |
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| koolhead17 | heckj, at time of adding user i can pass parameter which tenant he should be associated to i suppose :) | 20:04 |
| koolhead17 | with --tenant_id | 20:05 |
| heckj | yeah - that's setting a default tenant_id. Not sure that you can change that with command line client tools at this point. | 20:06 |
| koolhead17 | but funny part is i can add any random key and user gets added along with tenant_id == "the wrong/non-exisitingting tenant id | 20:06 |
| koolhead17 | heckj, i found another way modifying the DB manually :D | 20:06 |
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| * heckj nods | 20:07 | |
| heckj | koolhead17: do you have that logged as a bug? | 20:08 |
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| koolhead17 | heckj, am scared at times filing bugs TBH so i added it in my question. Shall i add it as bug? :P | 20:08 |
| heckj | please | 20:09 |
| koolhead17 | doing right away sir | 20:09 |
| heckj | if the bug isn't valid, we'll just close it as invalid. Would prefer to know there was an issue, even if it's easily resolved | 20:09 |
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| kbringard | quick ? about keystone (in diablo-stable, not light or essex) | 20:17 |
| kbringard | when using the nova client, i set my nova api endpoint to be the keystone service | 20:17 |
| kbringard | which auths and gives me a token and an endpoint | 20:17 |
| kbringard | at that point does keystone itself proxy the connection back to the internal url from the endpoint_templates table? | 20:17 |
| kbringard | or does it tell the client to do it, which establishes another connection from the outside? | 20:18 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960577 in keystone "keystone user-add command takes random --tenant-id value and maps it in user profile" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960577 | 20:26 |
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| swill | notmyname: i just wanted to let you know that i was wrong previously about the 'container_requests' thing. it is working as expected. | 20:37 |
| notmyname | swill: ah cool. thanks for letting me know :-) | 20:37 |
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| swill | notmyname: ya for sure. it was one of those brain fart situations. i was expecting enumerate(headers[2:0]) to give me the index in headers, instead of starting from 0. | 20:39 |
| swill | sorry: enumerate(headers[2:]) | 20:39 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960588 in horizon "Custom column class triggers KeyError" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960588 | 20:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960590 in horizon "Column and Cell don't inherit from HTMLElement" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960590 | 20:46 |
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| manlymatt83 | Hi folks. For a new deployment that we need to get up this week, should we go diablo or essex (and if essex, what's the best way to install it?). While we do need to get something up soon, we *won't* need it to be stable/production for at least a few weeks. | 20:53 |
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| oNeToWn | devstack if you won't need it to be stable. ;D | 20:55 |
| manlymatt83 | well, it'll need to be stable in a few weeks ;) | 20:57 |
| manlymatt83 | so figured if there was some way we could setup four dedicated boxes with essex and then upgrade to release in the upcoming weeks? | 20:57 |
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| oNeToWn | essex-rc1 just come out. | 20:59 |
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| manlymatt83 | oNeToWn: Where's the best way to get that? | 21:00 |
| oNeToWn | https://launchpad.net/nova/essex/essex-rc1 | 21:00 |
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| manlymatt83 | thanks | 21:01 |
| oNeToWn | np. | 21:01 |
| manlymatt83 | that's Nova release candidate 1 right? What about the rest of openstack? | 21:02 |
| manlymatt83 | I'm a bit confused. There's Nova, then the control panel, swift, etc. right? | 21:02 |
| manlymatt83 | is Essex just nova? | 21:02 |
| dolphm | all are releasing their own RC's as fast as they can | 21:02 |
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| manlymatt83 | ahhh! OK, gotcha. | 21:02 |
| dolphm | manlymatt83: countdown to other RC's: http://wiki.openstack.org/releasestatus/rc1.html | 21:03 |
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| manlymatt83 | dolphm: OK, thanks. Can't really use Nova RC1 for Essex and the older Products from Diablo, right? | 21:05 |
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| dolphm | manlymatt83: probably not | 21:10 |
| dolphm | keystone essex should be backwards compatible with the rest of diablo, but i can't speak for other projects | 21:10 |
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| manlymatt83 | dolphm: OK. So best bet if we're spinning up a new environment is to either wait two weeks or install diablo, and then upgrade to essex? | 21:12 |
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| dolphm | manlymatt83: are you installing from packaging or source? | 21:13 |
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| manlymatt83 | dolphm: I'd like to install from packages, but looks like we'd have to use source if we went with essex. | 21:13 |
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| dolphm | manlymatt83: at the moment, yes | 21:15 |
| dolphm | manlymatt83: rc1's could all be out this week *crosses fingers* | 21:16 |
| manlymatt83 | OK, thank you. So if it were you, you'd wait for Essex, versus installing Diablo and then upgrading? | 21:16 |
| dolphm | manlymatt83: personally, yes | 21:18 |
| manlymatt83 | OK, thank you. I assume the upgrade path from diablo -> essex won't be trivial. | 21:19 |
| dolphm | manlymatt83: starting with RC's and upgrading to final from there should be trivial, and you won't have to relearn stuff :) | 21:19 |
| manlymatt83 | okay, cool ;) So I'll wait for all of the RCs | 21:19 |
| dolphm | manlymatt83: we've made that upgrade path as trivial as possible, but there's a learning curve i'd be more worried about :P | 21:19 |
| manlymatt83 | gotcha ;) | 21:19 |
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| cloudfly | anyone have a good source on comparitive benchmarks / stats between openstack opennebula and say cloudstack / eucalyptus? | 21:20 |
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| cloudfly | found a chinese article that was decent but the translation was pretty weak and i kinda wanted more technical analysis than feature set comparison | 21:21 |
| manlymatt83 | dolphm: while you're here, mind if I ask you a quick question on Keystone? It can be powered by OpenLDAP, right? I heard in Essex that may not be the case. If we need an OpenLDAP store for puppet variables and such, would share Keystone's LDAP directory be a good idea, or best to keep those separate? | 21:21 |
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| heckj | manlymatt83: yes, it's possible, but expects you to be comfortable with OpenLDAP and schema config | 21:22 |
| manlymatt83 | Yeah, we're running OpenLDAP now. And I'm very comfortable with it. Been using it for many years. | 21:22 |
| * dolphm post-emptively defers to heckj. | 21:23 | |
| manlymatt83 | We have OpenLDAP for authentication, system authorization (pam_ldap), public keys, puppet external nodes, internal DNS backing for pdns, etc. | 21:23 |
| heckj | manlymatt83: the docs are anemic, but the support for identity is there (thank you ayoung!). It's expecting a specific schema | 21:24 |
| manlymatt83 | Wondering, when we jump from EC2 over to OpenStack, we'll still need puppet and pdns storage inside OpenLDAP. Wondering if Keystone can simply work with the same OpenLDAP instance(s) too. | 21:24 |
| manlymatt83 | heckj: Great! I'll look into it. | 21:24 |
| heckj | manlymatt83: read through the bits at keystone.openstack.org - no other docs will have those details yet | 21:25 |
| cloudfly | it'd be nice if keystone had more of an RFC style protocol setup | 21:26 |
| cloudfly | but maybe not as... special... as LDAPs | 21:26 |
| heckj | cloudfly: what do you mean by "RFC style protocol setup"? | 21:27 |
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| cloudfly | well setup was probably the wrong word | 21:27 |
| cloudfly | but a literal request for comments on keystone protocol elements | 21:27 |
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| manlymatt83 | Thanks heckj! I'm looking at this now. | 21:28 |
| cloudfly | it seems to me that the biggest issue with keystones success is ensuring it can grow to handle all the things it may be called on to do | 21:28 |
| cloudfly | but that those things are really aren't clearly known widely yet | 21:28 |
| manlymatt83 | We intend to run CentOS as our Guest OS, but rumor has it Ubuntu + KVM is the easiest to run for the VMM. Is that also true? | 21:28 |
| cloudfly | openstack of course has only seen some limited use at this point | 21:28 |
| cloudfly | manlymatt83 most of openstacks core devs work in ubuntu. but there are a number of very active deployments on centos | 21:29 |
| cloudfly | and there is considerable documentation as a result | 21:29 |
| cloudfly | from what i have seen | 21:29 |
| manlymatt83 | cloudfly: OK, cool. | 21:29 |
| kbringard | manlymatt83: when you say "As our guest OS", do you mean as the host, or in a VM that runs on openstack? | 21:30 |
| heckj | cloudfly - that was definitely a problem with the V2 API, and we plan to expand on that conversation at the design summit. We're actively collecting use stories to keep keystone grounded in reality. IT's easy to fly away with "woulda coulda shoulda" | 21:31 |
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| cloudfly | yeah but that's the whole point of RFCs | 21:32 |
| manlymatt83 | kbringard: As in, the OS we'd run inside VMs | 21:33 |
| cloudfly | also just because you can't implement something now, doesn't mean you can't keep an eye torward making sure that you can later on when you need to without major issues | 21:33 |
| manlymatt83 | kbringard: still trying to figure out to run on the actual physical hosts (the ones we install openstack on). | 21:33 |
| kbringard | manlymatt83: that works fine | 21:33 |
| kbringard | we run centos 5.7 and 6.2 images all day long | 21:33 |
| manlymatt83 | kbringard: I assume that works okay, yeah. We've had good luck running KVM out of box with CentOS (without OpenStack) | 21:33 |
| manlymatt83 | just wondering what the best OS is to put on the actual physical hardware. IE: do we do yum install openstack or apt-get install openstack ;) | 21:34 |
| kbringard | we run Ubuntu 11.04 | 21:34 |
| cloudfly | manlymatt83 my guess is your biggest issue is ensuring the kvm version and libvirt version have everything openstack needs | 21:34 |
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| cloudfly | kvm has seen a siginificant number of improvements in its own right at a staggering pace | 21:34 |
| kbringard | with the rackspace cloud builders repo | 21:34 |
| cloudfly | you will want bleeding edge packages | 21:34 |
| kbringard | http://ops.rcb.me/packages/pool/diablo-final/ | 21:35 |
| kbringard | that's what I use | 21:35 |
| kbringard | if it helps | 21:35 |
| cloudfly | kbringard dunno if you've rebuilt packages from there before but i find just ripping them apart with ar works great | 21:35 |
| cloudfly | to do edits | 21:35 |
| cloudfly | easier than rebuilding from scratch | 21:36 |
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| kbringard | we have a repo full of diffs that get applied automatically after the packages get installed | 21:36 |
| kbringard | which is kind of jankey, but I didn't want to deal with rebuilding my own packages :-D | 21:36 |
| manlymatt83 | so are you guys saying if we run Ubuntu under the hood vs. CentOS our lives should be easier package wise? | 21:37 |
| kbringard | manlymatt83: I think so, yes | 21:37 |
| kbringard | I think grud dynamics maintains centos packages | 21:37 |
| kbringard | err | 21:37 |
| kbringard | grid* | 21:37 |
| kbringard | but Ubuntu has "official" packages, and all the devs use it | 21:37 |
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| manlymatt83 | alright. Thank you. | 21:39 |
| kbringard | np | 21:39 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960627 in glance "'bin/glance add' docstring *_format is out of date" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960627 | 21:41 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960637 in openstack-ci "keystone watch in gerrit isn't sticking" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960637 | 21:45 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960655 in nova "vm_utils vbd_unplug_with_retry failing to retry" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960655 | 22:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #960684 in horizon "Python novaclient writing to homedir" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960684 | 22:56 |
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| dj_ryan | ok now that it's day time | 23:26 |
| dj_ryan | anyone have any suggestions on learning how to install openstack essex the hard way (tm) on ubuntu 12.04? | 23:27 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: The hard way = from source? | 23:30 |
| dj_ryan | no from packages i think | 23:31 |
| dj_ryan | i mean there are nightlies | 23:31 |
| dj_ryan | but without scripts | 23:31 |
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| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: That is the hard way :-) | 23:31 |
| dj_ryan | devstack no worky, and crowbar is just fucked :-) | 23:31 |
| dj_ryan | gotcha | 23:31 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: I'm sure the packagers would disagree though! | 23:31 |
| dj_ryan | heh | 23:31 |
| dj_ryan | i just want some vmmmmmms | 23:31 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: I've been experimenting with installing from source | 23:31 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: https://github.com/justinsb/openstack-simple-config | 23:32 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: Work in progress, but it installs nova, swift, glance, horizon with minimal scripting | 23:32 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: I should probably do a readme :-) | 23:32 |
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| dj_ryan | the issue is | 23:33 |
| dj_ryan | a lot of these are like 'press GO and you get an openstack' | 23:33 |
| dj_ryan | i kinda want to know HOW it works practically | 23:33 |
| dj_ryan | the docs are only so useful to fully groking how the system works in operation | 23:33 |
| dj_ryan | i find seeing it happening helps | 23:33 |
| justinsb_ | Well, for that, you're going to have to read the openstack source I guess | 23:34 |
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| dj_ryan | sure but there is a lot not in the source | 23:34 |
| justinsb_ | Check out the scripts (in roles/); they are very minimal and not too much magic | 23:34 |
| dj_ryan | like the use of dnsmasq, bridge interfaces, etc | 23:34 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: Oh that fun stuff... | 23:35 |
| dj_ryan | yes, THAT fun stuff :-) | 23:35 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: Networking is very tricky, and I definitely don't understand it all. But if you use FlatManager to side-step most of it | 23:35 |
| dj_ryan | i thought that dnsmasq was masqurading dhcp too, but apparently not. | 23:35 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #960719 in keystone "creating the same role multiple time should not create multiple role" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/960719 | 23:35 |
| dj_ryan | so for me i just want virtual machines that are equal peers on the same network as my host, which is also my workstation(s) | 23:35 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: Apart from the bridge device. Bridge=software network switch, at least in my mental model | 23:36 |
| dj_ryan | since we are using Virtualization to turn a bunch of workstations into hadoopy nodes | 23:36 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: Yes, that's what I want to. FlatManager gives you that | 23:36 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: I think FlatDHCPManager can do so also, but it's much more complicated | 23:36 |
| justinsb_ | s/want to/want too/g | 23:36 |
| dj_ryan | yeah i dont get that | 23:37 |
| dj_ryan | apparently using DHCP = harder ? | 23:37 |
| dj_ryan | reading the openstack docs it seems that flat networking lets you NAT thru a single node? | 23:37 |
| dj_ryan | dunno about that shit | 23:37 |
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| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: I have it set up like this. My network is 192.168.0.0/16, my gateway is 192.168.1.1, I give 192.168.100.0/24 to VMs | 23:38 |
| dj_ryan | ahh | 23:38 |
| dj_ryan | k | 23:38 |
| justinsb_ | If you had the foresight to use 10.x.x.x, you can probably give OpenStack a more sensible allocation | 23:38 |
| dj_ryan | this is my home network atm, still doing office hunting :-) | 23:38 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: Me too. My gatway is a DD-WRT. | 23:38 |
| dj_ryan | my gateway is a fucking shitty as hell modem from sonic.net | 23:39 |
| dj_ryan | fuckers | 23:39 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: Well, I'll understand if you drop off IRC then. But OpenStack works just fine on a small scale. | 23:39 |
| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: Even if the docs try to make you feel inadequate ;-) | 23:40 |
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| dj_ryan | i will persevere | 23:40 |
| dj_ryan | our business kind of somewhat depends on this | 23:40 |
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| justinsb_ | dj_ryan: devstack should work also. The magic arguments are: | 23:41 |
| justinsb_ | NETWORK_CREATE_ARGS="--fixed_cidr=192.168.100.0/24 --gateway=192.168.1.1" | 23:41 |
| justinsb_ | NET_MAN=FlatManager | 23:42 |
| justinsb_ | EXTRA_OPTS=(--flat_injected=True) | 23:42 |
| justinsb_ | FLAT_INTERFACE=eth0 | 23:42 |
| dj_ryan | i had some issues with the devstack killing my dnsmasq that provides DNS caching | 23:42 |
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| dj_ryan | then i ended upfailing the script | 23:42 |
| dj_ryan | rerunning the script would fuck my sudo config | 23:42 |
| dj_ryan | then i was fucked, i'd have to boot into recovery to fix! | 23:42 |
| justinsb_ | devstack probably isn't great for a multi-node setup | 23:42 |
| dj_ryan | im using ubuntu 12.04 did i mention :-P | 23:42 |
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| dj_ryan | i think im going to dissassemble the stack.sh and do it "by hand" | 23:43 |
| justinsb_ | That's what I'm working on with that github project | 23:43 |
| dj_ryan | but with the packages | 23:43 |
| dj_ryan | this aint my first rodeo :-P | 23:43 |
| justinsb_ | OK! Good luck! | 23:43 |
| dj_ryan | thanks! | 23:43 |
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