Tuesday, 2012-04-17

WormMan	instance storage? I like /dev/sdb :)	00:00
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* Renich found the html files included with the package		00:06
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webx	I've been wanting to try out ceph myself, but that's on the back burner until I get swift up and running	00:09
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Renich	I'm getting this error when trying to add an endpointTemplate: ERROR: Service keystone not found	00:41
Renich	and they're showing up in netstat (ports, I mean)	00:42
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Renich	forget it; the service wasn't added first	00:46
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mknight88	Is anyone available to help with a keystone endpoint-create question?	00:47
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jasonb	If I'm using Flat Manager with a set of IP addresses from the same network as my host's network, do I still need a bridge?	02:02
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livemoon	hi,anyone here?	02:24
jasonb	I'm here, asking questions. :)	02:24
livemoon	what is the meaning of "Operational State" in aggregate?	02:24
jasonb	Are you reading a doc page somewhere?	02:25
livemoon	I am testing in my environment	02:26
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jasonb	Which daemon is meant to handle a metadata request like: http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id ?	03:06
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Renich	whoa, it seems we don't get enough attention here... ;=s	03:31
Renich	busy with essex?	03:31
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jasonb	Could someone tell me what the docs/configs mean when they say "floating IP address"?	03:37
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jasonb	Ahh, found this page: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/Private_and_Public_IP_Addresses.html	03:51
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aspiers	Renich: 400 openstack developers are currently drinking beer: http://openstack.org/conference/san-francisco-2012/	03:52
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WormMan	except for those of us who are just relaxing :)	03:53
tserong	that's a lot of beer	03:53
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aspiers	well, I have to admit I'm not either	04:00
aspiers	it's probably a bit less than 400 by now :)	04:00
aspiers	tserong: met fhaas this morning within about 30 secs of joining the registration queue	04:00
aspiers	he managed to guess who I was, presumably from the accent and a mention of SUSE	04:02
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aspiers	right, need to find some food	04:02
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tserong	aspiers, excellent :)	04:06
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Falcon\|	Hi everyone, I got a strange issue with my openstack diablo setup and got some strange network issue. Some of my instances seems to not be able to connect to the internet thru my compute node while others can. Any idea what might be causing this? When I first launched the instances they all got internet access.	04:28
benner	Falcon\|: try tcpdump on compute node's tun/br interfaces	04:31
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Falcon\|	benner: ok, I can see my ICMP packets going out on the br interface for the vlan that my tenant uses.	04:33
Falcon\|	but no reply	04:33
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benner	so look further where the packets stops (on gateway)	04:35
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Renich	aspiers: ah, good for them! ;)	04:36
Falcon\|	benner: Ok this is odd, the compute node is using one of it's private IPs that I use for connection between the nodes when it NATs the instance that not have any internet access.	04:47
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Falcon\|	To clarify, this is a IP that is used for connections between my compute nodes	04:47
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hugokuo	morning	04:52
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benner	Falcon\|: does compute node see your vm?	04:57
Falcon\|	benner: I can ping my vm from my compute node yes	04:58
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benner	Falcon\|: how about from other compute node?	05:03
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Falcon\|	benner: I can reach it from machines that got vms in the same subnet, from other compute node I can't access it because the bridge interface is not setup for that vlan	05:06
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Falcon\|	benner: OK, I see a pattern in this now. All machines that have a floating IP attached got working internet connection. The ones that don't can't reach internet because they got NATed to a private IP on my network that my router don't accept (it assumes that the IP that is reaching it's interface are a public ip)	05:11
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aarcane	can I provision and run machines in openstack that have fully read/write root filesystems ?	05:11
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Falcon\|	benner: Thanks for the help with tip on how to diagnose this trouble. I think that one setting that was changed yesterday might be causing this trouble. We changed the my_ip setting in nova.conf and the IP we changed it to is the IP that the vms now get as NATed IP from the compute, which is confirmed when I check the iptables NAT table.	05:35
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livemoon	help. This is my error when I using shared storage with two hosts. http://pastebin.com/FAGwwSAg	05:50
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zykes-	hmmm, the public network I use for instances for floating ips, can't it for demos sake be a 192.168.5.0/24 for example ?	05:52
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benner	Falcon\|: np m8	05:59
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jasonb	nova-volume doesn't stay running.. in the log it says: "CRITICAL nova [-] volume group nova-volumes doesn't exist" .. but it does. The "vgs --noheadings -o name" command outputs: nova-volumes	06:16
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jasonb	.. and now the dashboard won't spin up VM instances anymore, apparently because nova-volume doesn't stay running.	06:17
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saju	i done upto Step 5: Install and configure Nova in site http://www.hastexo.com/resources/docs/installing-openstack-essex-4-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/step-5-install-and-configur	06:24
saju	then i installed # apt-get install euca2ools	06:24
saju	now i want ACCESS_KEY and SECRET_KEY	06:25
saju	how get it ?	06:25
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melmoth	saju i havent used this doc, but most probably keystone ec2-credentials-create	06:26
saju	ok, let me check	06:26
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zykes-	jasonb: you need to create a volume group called nova-volumes	06:30
zykes-	and export it via a iscsi target	06:31
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jasonb	zykes-: Hmm, I didn't have the iscsi target set.. and it was working fine.. until just now.	06:46
jasonb	As I said above, my nova-volumes lvm volume group was already there.	06:46
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zykes-	ok	06:50
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zykes-	Hmmm, the public routed network in nova, shouldn't the nova compute node have a ip address in that subnet ?	06:54
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cloudfly	zykes no	06:55
cloudfly	not necessarily	06:55
cloudfly	unless the node is running nova-network	06:55
cloudfly	and even then	06:55
cloudfly	depending on your goal	06:55
cloudfly	not necessarily	06:55
cloudfly	=P	06:55
zykes-	cloudfly: well I have a "router" (fortigate thing) on 192.168.5.1	06:56
jasonb	Is it possible to have a nova-network where it gives each VM a static IP address in the same network as the nova-network host machine's IP address?	06:56
cloudfly	it's been done before	06:56
cloudfly	why not just script it though?	06:56
jasonb	How?	06:56
cloudfly	you can create the mapping and set the security stuff	06:56
cloudfly	allocate ip address is what it was	06:56
cloudfly	i think that still works	06:57
cloudfly	you basically allocate an ip for the isntance and map it	06:57
zykes-	I assign a floating ip cloudfly to a vm and I see it get's assigned to 192.168.5.190/32, but I can't ping the .190 address from a machine not on the subnet	06:57
cloudfly	then add port permissions	06:57
cloudfly	yeah	06:57
cloudfly	you need to add permissions for use	06:57
zykes-	and I think it's due to that there's no "gateway"	06:57
cloudfly	that's possible as well	06:57
cloudfly	depends on your config a bit	06:57
cloudfly	you obviously can check routin gon the network node	06:58
zykes-	cause the nova node has a default gw via the admin network	06:58
jasonb	Yeah, the routing on this stuff is very tough to get right, and there's no step by step guide, it seems.	06:58
jasonb	db question: does it hurt anything if I do: use nova; delete from instances; ? (if all the instances were test instances that I've already tried to delete..)	06:59
zykes-	cloudfly: hints on networking setup ?	06:59
cloudfly	sorry	07:01
cloudfly	was in bathroom	07:01
cloudfly	uhm what i've done is made public and internal net	07:01
cloudfly	and defaulted it to a router	07:01
cloudfly	for nat	07:01
cloudfly	if i need to give a direct external i use a separate vlan for that	07:02
zykes-	ah ok	07:02
zykes-	so you dont set the default gw via the admin network	07:02
cloudfly	the reasoning is that wasting an external on every single network node can be ugly	07:02
cloudfly	well it's set there	07:03
cloudfly	obviously but the gateway is not part of openstack	07:03
zykes-	but, but ?	07:03
cloudfly	the public network is public	07:03
cloudfly	it uses an upstream gateway	07:03
cloudfly	it's not using the network node	07:03
zykes-	how the heck you set a gateway ?	07:03
cloudfly	can't recall off the top of my head	07:04
cloudfly	the external is i think set as a flag file config	07:04
jasonb	There should really be concrete examples of that in the docs.	07:04
cloudfly	since it's 'special'	07:04
cloudfly	which IMHO is just stupid	07:04
cloudfly	but they are working on networking	07:05
cloudfly	maybe this design summit will yield some good news for netstack work	07:05
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cloudfly	actually as we speak i am looking into getting a new wifi ap with openwrt w/ openfly support	07:05
cloudfly	err	07:05
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cloudfly	openflow	07:05
cloudfly	typo typo	07:05
livemoon	hi, who know "host-aggregate" well?	07:06
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cloudfly	imma pop off to sleep it's post midnight here	07:06
cloudfly	good night all	07:06
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zykes-	does nova have a default to 10.0.0.0/8 for something ?	07:08
cloudfly	yes	07:08
cloudfly	i believe that's the default for instances / project space	07:08
cloudfly	or at least it WAS	07:08
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zykes-	uhm, but why does it snat that when I have created another network ?!	07:09
jasonb	g'night cloud	07:09
jasonb	fly.	07:09
cloudfly	zykes god help you if you are reading nat rules on the network controller.	07:10
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zykes-	:p	07:10
jasonb	hehe	07:10
zykes-	I just don't get why I can't reach the stuff	07:10
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jasonb	zykes-: I have found that sometimes there are db rows containing old data in the db, and that nova is still pulling those out and doing network stuff for them, after I've reconfigured the conf file and restarted.	07:11
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zykes-	so basically each compute node would need a public ip ?	07:17
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jasonb	ahh, man.. my problem was only that /etc/nova/nova.conf was owned by root and not user nova.. it had nothing to do with the nova-volumes LVM volume group. As soon as I chowned it back to user nova and restarted the daemons, it all worked again.	07:21
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uvirtbot	New bug: #983734 in keystone "Keystone fails badly if you miss one option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/983734	07:51
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uvirtbot	New bug: #983744 in keystone "execute endpoint failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/983744	08:01
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zykes-	question, for the networking HA stuff	08:12
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dnaori	2012-04-17 10:19:15 ERROR nova.rpc.impl_qpid [-] Unable to connect to AMQP server: Error in sasl_client_start (-1) SASL(-1): generic failure: GSSAPI Error: Unspecified GSS failure. Minor code may provide more information (Credentials cache file '/tmp/krb5cc_162' not found)	08:29
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dnaori	2012-04-17 10:19:16 ERROR nova.rpc.impl_qpid [-] Unable to connect to AMQP server: None(already open)	08:29
dnaori	help ^	08:29
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pixelbeat	dnaori try setting auth=no in /etc/qpidd.conf	08:39
dnaori	pixelbeat, thanks!	08:44
zykes-	do people assign 1 public ip pr compute node ?	08:48
Razique	zykes- no, private network here	08:49
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foexle	hey guys	08:59
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Razique	foexle :-)	09:00
foexle	Hey Razique :) how are you doing ?	09:01
Razique	great :-)	09:01
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Razique	working on a kvm live bacup script :)	09:02
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foexle	oh yes ? ... nice. I'm trying to run openstack in a staging env with lxc	09:03
foexle	;)	09:03
Razique	awesome	09:03
foexle	i've solved my performance issues with kvm	09:03
foexle	it was .... yeah ... no command pretty hard to find out the problem	09:04
Razique	oh	09:05
Razique	what was it ?	09:05
koolhead17	foexle, lxc ^^	09:05
foexle	first, journaling of the filesystem on host was to slow. has blocked and has produced the high load	09:06
foexle	second, the default networking driver of kvm has not the required throughput so i've changed to e1000 and it's working now :)	09:07
foexle	but the write performance are not the best :( .... i'm loosing ~20%	09:08
foexle	koolhead17: hey :)	09:08
foexle	koolhead17: lxc ? whats happen ? :D	09:08
Razique	yah I know...	09:08
koolhead17	foexle, long time. looking fwd for LXC OS deployment pointer from you. :D	09:09
koolhead17	hola Razique	09:09
Razique	hey koolhead17 :)	09:09
foexle	but to find the problem with the journaling .... OMG it was an odyssee	09:09
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foexle	koolhead17: why ? its complicated with opentack ? .... so my next milestone are only configure the network correctly to communicate lxc with openstack	09:10
koolhead17	foexle, awesome.	09:11
foexle	hmpf :(	09:11
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Razique	I found a cool way to enhance qcow2 images	09:12
Razique	backup* sorry	09:12
Razique	with the rsync --inplace flag :D	09:13
foexle	Razique: you'll backup complete images ?	09:14
Razique	foexle : one time only	09:15
Razique	then I use snapshots	09:15
foexle	hmmm ok why do you need backups ?	09:15
Razique	of the base image you mean ?	09:16
foexle	yeah	09:17
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Razique	it's not directly openstack related	09:17
foexle	i'm using 2 different images .... everytime and install this image automaticly with chef	09:18
Razique	but I wanted a way to be able to remount directly the instance of case of any issue	09:18
Razique	foexle : doesn't apply here	09:18
foexle	chef installs alle customer required packages	09:18
Razique	the type of customers we have can't use such	09:18
foexle	ahh	09:18
Razique	these are transactions website, the instances have shitload of non-ephemeral stuff installed	09:18
Razique	I went thorough the pain of network failure, and bootstraping	09:19
Razique	but there are some datas that are not I'd say compliant	09:19
foexle	do you have running 1 instance or more than one with a loadbalancer ?	09:19
Razique	I never used the load balancing :)	09:19
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foexle	i'm using it , but i can't use with openstack layer3 loadbalancer -.-	09:20
foexle	maybe with quantum	09:20
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VivekVC	nijaba: Have you put the slides of you talk on Ubuntu Cloud Day in Bangalore online ?	09:31
VivekVC	s/you/your	09:32
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uvirtbot	New bug: #983800 in keystone "TokenNotFound not raised in testsuite because of timezone issues" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/983800	09:41
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Adri2000	when configuring keystone to use an LDAP directory, is it going to write stuff into the LDAP directory? if yes, is it possible to make it only read? (and maybe make it store its specific stuff somewhere else)	09:45
dnaori	i have this error when trying nova-manage network create http://fpaste.org/9TJd/	09:46
dnaori	> nova-manage network create demonet 192.168.1.0/24 1 256 --bridge=demonetbr0	09:47
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rohit404	test	09:58
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koolhead17	rohit404, passed	10:09
uvirtbot	New bug: #983829 in glance "notify_kombu incorrect message format for logging" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/983829	10:16
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saju	error when running # nova volume-list	10:42
saju	ERROR: The server could not comply with the request since it is either malformed or otherwise incorrect. (HTTP 400)	10:42
saju	command # nova list is working well	10:43
zykes-	saju: paste of nova --debug volume-list	10:46
saju	This is the issue i am facing, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/962615	10:46
saju	have any fix ?	10:47
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saju	zykes : http://dpaste.com/732994/	10:49
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uvirtbot	New bug: #983845 in nova "nova-compute won't restart after libvirt spawn failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/983845	10:50
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saju	# nova volume-list was working before	11:02
saju	but it doesn't working after following operations create _volume---> create snapshot --->create volume	11:03
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saju	have any way to restore to old working config ?	11:03
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zykes-	what's a aggregate ?	11:13
uvirtbot	New bug: #983856 in tempest "volumes are not deleted in teardown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/983856	11:15
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livemoon	who can help me "live migrate"	11:20
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zykes-	Hmm, shouldn't I be able to see the vm interface in a bridge when I do brctl show ?	12:04
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phschwartz	zykes-: If the bridge is setup correctly and working, yes.	12:07
phschwartz	here, from one of my compute nodes.	12:08
zykes-	funky thenm i only see vlan60 and vnetX	12:08
phschwartz	br1008000.02163e30654anovlan100	12:08
zykes-	am I missing something then or ?	12:08
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phschwartz	can you do a pastebin of the whole brctl show output	12:09
zykes-	sure	12:09
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zykes-	http://pastebin.com/mwHsnXTj phschwartz	12:14
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phschwartz	Is there an ip associated with br60 on both nodeS?	12:15
phschwartz	from the look of that brctl show you have a working bridge.	12:15
zykes-	on one of the nodes (networking node) yes	12:15
phschwartz	Then, yes. It looks to be correct.	12:15
zykes-	:(/	12:16
phschwartz	You have a link via the bridge on vlan60. If the networking node has an ip for it, then the bridge is functional.	12:16
no`x	hi try to understand how nova starts and configures dnsmasq in FLATDHCPmode. Just with the options in nova.conf and the nova-manage network settings?	12:16
zykes-	what kind of device is vlan60 phschwartz ?	12:17
phschwartz	zykes-: It is not, it is a vlan interface used in tcp/ip packet tagging.	12:18
phschwartz	The device is the bridge br60	12:18
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zykes-	maybe some switch config then ?	12:24
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phschwartz	you most likely have your bridge device set to br60 which is why br60 was created.	12:31
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phschwartz	no`x: The nova networking guide in the docs on the site show all of the settings needed for working with flat dhcp.	12:32
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WilliamHerry	I have a odd problem, if I login as admin, a error shows when i create swift container, but it actually created, when i delete container, Internal server error shows, but when i login as nova/glance/swift, error never happen, and the the three user share the containers, can some one help	12:37
chopkorn	:)))	12:41
chopkorn	2bad m8	12:42
chopkorn	;))))	12:42
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chopkorn	TROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLL	12:45
chopkorn	TROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLLTROLLTROLLTROLL :D::D:D:DTROLL	12:45
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phschwartz	wow, talk about childishness.	12:46
eirikbb	yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh	12:46
eirikbb	yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh	12:46
eirikbb	sorry	12:47
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no`x	phschwartz: but does not help me to debug why dnsmasq is not starting anymore :)	12:51
phschwartz	no`x: Your not reading the flags it talks about using and your logs correctly then. Your most likely not setting flags correctly and it will be complaining in the network log.	12:52
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no`x	now i reconstucted the parameter and startet it by hand. but now the instances doesnot even get a netdev :/	12:53
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no`x	no network log only tells me about the ampq connect after restart , no error there	12:54
phschwartz	There should be a lot more in the network log then just the connect to rabbit.	12:55
phschwartz	you defn have something messed up with your flags	12:55
phschwartz	can you pastebin your nova.conf	12:55
no`x	sure sec	12:55
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no`x	http://pastebin.com/qqm48KC8	12:56
no`x	well you the i tried a lot there	12:57
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no`x	it is the fc17 setup	12:58
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phschwartz	no`x: essex?	13:00
no`x	yes	13:00
phschwartz	k, let me look at the config	13:00
no`x	thx	13:00
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phschwartz	You have settings that are needed for network to function correctly in flat dhcp commented out. I would reread the flat dhcp networking guide and make sure you have all of the needed flat_* flags set correctly.	13:03
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no`x	--flat_network_dhcp_start --flat_interface= --flat_injected didn not change the behavior	13:05
no`x	but try it again	13:05
phschwartz	If they didn't, you had them set incorrectly for your setup.	13:06
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melmoth	I think there is no such flat_network settinfs in essex	13:07
melmoth	at least, i do not find trace of them grepping -r in the nova sources anywhere	13:07
no`x	but bridge is already set up, thought them to be only neccesary when nova has to setup the bridge	13:08
phschwartz	melmoth: if that is true, there was a failure to update docs.	13:08
phschwartz	lol	13:08
melmoth	i believe the most update information source is etc/nova/nova.conf.sample in the sources.	13:09
melmoth	i spent the morning chasing out flag that i have in my conf not knowing what they did	13:10
melmoth	happen that several of them were just not exising anymore :)	13:10
melmoth	now... i havent try out what happen without all of them ...i may have some surprise.	13:10
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Razique	hey	13:13
Razique	I found myself having my qcow2 images corrupted when a snapshot is performed	13:13
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Razique	have guys experienced similar issues ?	13:14
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zykes-	hmmms, I'm getting bored of this, Razique what can be wrong, Now i've assigned addresses to a "public" interface but when I assign a address to a vm it's not able to get reached	13:29
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Razique	when you assign a floating ip ?	13:30
zykes-	y	13:31
zykes-	I can't ping out of the vm and not into the assigned floating interface	13:31
zykes-	though I can ping the compute nodes ip	13:31
Razique	ok	13:31
Razique	check if the prerouting rule is being added	13:31
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Razique	iptables -L -nv -t nat	13:31
zykes-	pixelbeat: any update on getting vnc packaged with nova for rhel?	13:32
zykes-	what's the diff btw folks on vnc and xvpvnc ?	13:32
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Razique	I dunno man	13:33
pixelbeat	nope sorry, not looking at that yet	13:33
zykes-	possible to do pixelbeat ? Just missing the script for it i guess	13:33
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pixelbeat	zykes-, I noticed the /etc/rc.d/init.d/openstack-nova-vncproxy script. Did you try that?	13:35
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foexle	Razique: you're using quantum ?	13:38
Razique	foexle : nope	13:39
foexle	hmpf :(	13:39
Razique	pretty new stuff to me man :)	13:41
foexle	anyone knows if each NIC has his own MAC in quantum ? and do arp requests ?	13:41
Razique	to be honnest I'm not very familiar with the Essex big step	13:41
foexle	yeah me too ....	13:41
Razique	foexle : yes it does	13:42
foexle	Razique: ohhhhh really ? wohooooooooooooooooooo	13:42
foexle	*happy	13:42
Razique	I think yes, it does handle em as VIF	13:42
Razique	every VIF has it's own properties	13:42
Razique	but I could be wrong	13:42
zykes-	http://pastebin.com/UiadPypb < Razique	13:43
foexle	if every nic has his own mac and broadcasted this one .... it will be awesome because i can use layer3 loadbalancer :)	13:44
foexle	and not a fucking slowly layer7	13:44
zykes-	seems it just stops Razique @ the nova node	13:44
Razique	zykes- what is your floatung ip ?	13:45
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Kiall	WormMan, ping... remember those ebtables rules you mentioned for blocking ARP from the nova-network gateways leaking outside the physical server? Don't suppose you have them handy? ;)	13:53
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saju	how check openstack version	14:01
saju	have any command	14:01
saju	i want to check is it Essex r diablo ?	14:02
sante	Hi all, do someone know if it is possible to load balance nova's scheduler? Does the multi.py (Dristribuited) driver do this job?	14:03
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Kiall	sante, you can just run multiple copies of nova-scheduler and nova will "do the right thing"	14:05
sante	Amazing, I'll try asap. Thanks a lot!	14:06
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Birk_	annegentle: Following the oficial essex tutorial I didn't get the dashboard working. I've done a few things to get it working properly. Things like install new components and download the noVNC. Should I create a doc bug and suggest this new steps ?	14:15
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annegentle	Birk_: Sure, though I think I can do it fast by amending this commit I did yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/6615/ it fixes the dashboard steps for one, and then I can probably just xi:include the novnc steps	14:20
annegentle	Birk_: so tell me the missing components	14:20
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Birk__	you have to add some configurations at the nova.conf and a few commands should be executed to.	14:22
Adri2000	shouldn't the keystone service table be filled when I do keystone service-create?	14:22
Kiall	WormMan, DOOH. Nevermind.. Figured out why it wasn't working.. switched out eth0 for eth1 ;)	14:22
Adri2000	keystone service-list does list the added service, but the table in the DB is still empty :s	14:23
annegentle	Birk__: ok, more details in a doc bug is ok	14:23
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Birk__	maybe it's better I write it to some place then you add it to the manual. I'm going for lunch now, when i come back I talk to you again.	14:24
Birk__	annegentle: ok	14:25
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annegentle	Birk__: that works too, have a good lunch :)	14:29
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nphase	any cool updates from the openstack summit?	14:33
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livemoon	any help me about "live migration", I use essex in 12.04, when I perform a live migration, nothing happens	14:37
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Kiall	livemoon, have you read the docs? They are pretty complete and not missing anything from memory...	14:38
livemoon	yes , I am according to docs	14:39
livemoon	I have changed three file about libvirt config	14:39
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alexp_	Hi guys	14:40
livemoon	The bad things is there are no error logs in nova-compute.log	14:41
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Guest63608	My name is Alessandro, I'm a Microsoft MVP	14:41
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Guest63608	My company has an Hyper-V library that could be integrated in OpenStack	14:42
Guest63608	is the Hyper-V support still broken?	14:42
koolhead17	Guest50718, Hyper-V is not supported with Essex release of openstack	14:43
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mknight88	Can someone assist me with keystone endpoint-create ?	14:44
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Guest63608	koolhead17, our idea would be to contribute the Hyper-V stack for the next release	14:44
Guest63608	would that make sense?	14:44
Guest63608	or do you have already somebody else working on it?	14:45
koolhead17	Guest50718, better try the mailinglist. As everyone is not present everytime here	14:45
Kiall	Guest63608, your best bet is to send the info to the developers mailing list..	14:45
koolhead17	Kiall, +1 :)	14:45
uvirtbot	New bug: #984034 in openstack-manuals "Inconsistencies in Install and deploy doc - glance, keystone, endpoints" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984034	14:45
Guest63608	ok guys, will write on the ML	14:46
mknight88	^^^^wonder if that is my problem...	14:46
uvirtbot	mknight88: Error: "^^^wonder" is not a valid command.	14:46
Kiall	I believe hyper-v would be accepted back in, assuming some level of commitment to keeping it functional for the foreseeable future etc etc	14:46
Guest63608	tx!	14:46
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koolhead17	gosh annegentle :)	14:47
annegentle	koolhead17: that bug gets a gosh? :)	14:48
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mknight88	Can anyone assist me with the keystone enpoint-create command, having trouble with the tenant_id variable	14:49
koolhead17	annegentle, your rocking this morning. :D	14:49
koolhead17	mknight88, pastebin what your trying plz	14:49
mknight88	kk	14:49
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livemoon	hi, Kiall	14:50
koolhead17	hello livemoon :D	14:50
livemoon	are you here after 10 hours	14:50
livemoon	hi, koolhead17	14:50
koolhead17	livemoon, how have you been?	14:50
livemoon	I am meeting some problems these days	14:50
mknight88	http://pastebin.com/rp667KNb	14:51
mknight88	for the record i have tried single and double quotes, same exact result	14:51
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koolhead17	mknight88, http://paste.openstack.org/show/12915/	14:53
koolhead17	see if this helps. :D	14:53
livemoon	koolhead17:have you tested live migrate	14:53
mknight88	woah, that looks different, kk ill try	14:53
koolhead17	livemoon, not yet. Razique was onit i suppose :P	14:54
koolhead17	mknight88, your using Essex isn`t it?	14:54
mknight88	mmmhmm	14:54
koolhead17	cool	14:54
livemoon	another question, where nova save iptables rules	14:54
uvirtbot	New bug: #984042 in swift "unit test failing on python-webob 1.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984042	14:56
Razique	livemoon yes I've been able to make it work	14:57
Razique	but I had to compile by hand libvirt	14:58
Razique	the 0.9-11-rc2	14:58
Razique	the 0.8.3 seems buggy about locked files	14:58
kokyu	does anyone have a good link on how to setup keystone backed by mySQL instead of TemplateCataloge?	14:58
mknight88	koolhead17, that still failed for me http://pastebin.com/5gLHFEv2	14:59
mknight88	koolhead17, i am about to step into an hour meeting, i will be back then hopefully	14:59
koolhead17	cool	14:59
livemoon	Razique: only Modify three files?	14:59
koolhead17	mknight88, try using variable way as i used	14:59
livemoon	you use Diablo?	15:00
koolhead17	i was getting exactly same error. so i added the other way if you can see	15:00
koolhead17	it works	15:00
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Razique	livemoon : no I removed the installed version of libvirt	15:05
Razique	and compiled the last stable version	15:06
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livemoon	in 12.04 , the version is 0.9.8	15:06
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kokyu	anybody running keystone with mySQL?	15:07
livemoon	Razique: only $NOVA_DIR/instances need be shared, isn't it?	15:07
koolhead17	kokyu, i am	15:08
kokyu	koolhead17: I only find out-dated docs on how to set it up. can you recommend me one (for essex)?	15:08
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Razique	livemoon : not if you use the block migration feature	15:08
livemoon	Razique: I mean live migration.	15:09
Razique	yes	15:10
livemoon	I mean only instances dir need shared. network dir don't need shared.	15:10
Razique	but live migration + block = no need for shared dir	15:10
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livemoon	there is no error log in nova-compute.log. so it is difficult for me to find where is mistake	15:11
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Razique	check libvirt.log :)	15:12
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eneabio	ssh in my instance(only compute node, in controller all is ok) ssh -vvvv -i Downloads/demo.pem ubuntu@172.16.1.3	15:13
eneabio	OpenSSH_5.6p1, OpenSSL 0.9.8r 8 Feb 2011 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh_config debug1: Applying options for * debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0 debug1: Connecting to 172.16.1.3 [172.16.1.3] port 22. debug1: connect to address 172.16.1.3 port 22: Connection refused ssh: connect to host 172.16.1.3 port 22: Connection refused	15:13
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eneabio	instance console log: http://pastebin.com/6qqWaycM	15:15
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* Kiall so nearly has live/block migration+multi_host networking working together :)		15:16
eneabio	I used this iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 172.16.0.1:8773 but nothing	15:16
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Kiall	eneabio, is nova-api running on the same server as the instance? and.. is 172.16.0.1 in the same subnet as VM's get IPs from?	15:17
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eneabio	No. I have two hosts: controller 172.16.0.1 (all) and compute 172.16.0.2 (only network and compute). The instance is in the compute.	15:20
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livemoon	libvirtd.log is nothing .only some error when start libvirt-bin	15:21
Kiall	Okay, and what do you have for the --fixed_range setting in nova.conf?	15:21
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zykes-	Razique: still here mr ?	15:23
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Razique	yes	15:23
zykes-	192.168.5.0/24 is my net .190-254	15:23
Razique	:D	15:23
livemoon	Kiall: yes ,I use mutil_host	15:23
livemoon	but I failed	15:23
eneabio	kiall: --fixed_range=10.0.0.0/8 in nova.conf on the compute	15:23
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Kiall	eneabio, k.. lots of people use 172.16.* there, just wanted to be sure ;)	15:24
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Kiall	eneabio, are you using the multi_host network mode?	15:24
Razique	zykes- the range for the floating ip ?	15:24
zykes-	Razique: .190-254	15:25
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eneabio	--multi_host in nova.conf	15:25
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Kiall	eneabio, so, yes, you are using multi-host? or are asking if that's the setting? ;)	15:26
eneabio	in nova.conf I have --my_ip=172.16.0.1 both controller and compute	15:26
uvirtbot	New bug: #977944 in horizon/essex "refreshing in log viewer interprets html and javascript" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/977944	15:26
Kiall	that would probably cause other issues BTW	15:26
eneabio	sorry, in nova.con I have only --multi_host	15:27
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Kiall	Okay.. So multi-host does something a little different than it sounds like at first..	15:27
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Kiall	multi_host means every compute node will also run nova-network (To remove the nova-network single point of failure)	15:27
Kiall	When you do that..	15:28
zykes-	Razique: ideas ?	15:28
Kiall	you also have to run nova-api-metadata, due to the way the metadata request is NAT'd	15:28
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kokyu	re	15:28
kokyu	koolhead17: did I miss your answer? (we had internet connection issues .... :)	15:29
Razique	zykes-: can I see the nova.conf ?	15:29
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eneabio	my nova.conf on compute host: http://pastebin.com/gH02gYmD	15:32
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zykes-	Razique: sure	15:32
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eneabio	my nova.conf on controller host: http://pastebin.com/bM7quunz	15:34
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eneabio	what's mean "you also have to run nova-api-metadata"?	15:35
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zykes-	Razique: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/583056/	15:36
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Razique	mmm	15:38
Razique	why did you commented out routing_source_ip setting ?	15:39
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zykes-	cause I got 1 IP pr compute ?	15:39
zykes-	Do you still need that the ?	15:39
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Razique	Yah I thnik os	15:40
Razique	so	15:40
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zykes-	Kiall: got a opinion ?	15:42
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Razique	I don't know essex very well zykes- :(	15:53
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soukihei	I'm getting the error 'unable to obtain admin token: invalid json response' in my glance/api.log file. I can clearly see in my history the username/password combination I am using is correct	15:54
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soukihei	is there some other method I can use to check the admin token?	15:54
eneabio	console instance log: http://pastebin.com/MWMvfU5i error is [ 5.509212] init: lxcguest pre-start process (58) terminated with status 1	15:55
eneabio	cloud-init start-local running: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:50:18 +0000. up 56.41 seconds	15:55
eneabio	no instance data found in start-local	15:55
eneabio	ci-info: lo : 1 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0	15:55
eneabio	ci-info: eth0 : 1 10.1.0.7 255.255.254.0 fa:16:3e:79:77:14	15:55
eneabio	ci-info: route-0: 0.0.0.0 10.1.0.5 0.0.0.0 eth0 UG	15:55
eneabio	ci-info: route-1: 10.1.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.254.0 eth0 U	15:55
eneabio	cloud-init start running: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 15:50:27 +0000. up 65.80 seconds	15:55
eneabio	2012-04-17 15:51:11,566 - DataSourceEc2.py[WARNING]: 'http://169.254.169.254' failed: url error [timed out]	15:55
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zykes-	ok Razique I tried that, still no response when pinging	15:57
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eneabio	ping 172.16.1.3 is ok	15:58
zykes-	clues Razique	15:58
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Razique	zykes- can I catch you later ?	16:00
Razique	I need to go home right now :)	16:00
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Kiall	zykes-, sorry.. had to reboot	16:02
Kiall	devstack killed my networking ;)	16:02
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Razique	ahah	16:02
Razique	:D	16:02
Kiall	zykes-, cant see the question ;)	16:02
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eneabio	Any idea?	16:07
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Kiall	eneabio, sorry.. devstack screwing with my connection ;)	16:07
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soukihei	I'm able to verify the json request with the curl command in the documentation, but when I try to add the vmlinuz image to glance, it is still giving me an authentication error	16:07
Kiall	When you use the multi_host setting, every compute node must also run the nova-api-metadata service	16:07
soukihei	is there a step I'm missing, perhaps that isn't in the trunk documentation?	16:07
Birk__	annegentle: take a look here :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals/+bug/984106	16:08
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annegentle	Birk__: nice! Thanks!	16:12
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zykes-	Kiall: I am wondering what's borked with my network :/	16:13
Kiall	zykes-, what are the symptoms? I was offline for a bit..	16:14
zykes-	Kiall: Can't ping from instances and out to the inet	16:14
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zykes-	and can't ping a instances floating ip	16:14
Kiall	can you ping the instance's IP from the node its running on?	16:15
zykes-	y	16:15
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zykes-	You mean from the networking node no?	16:15
uvirtbot	New bug: #984106 in openstack-manuals "MIssing Dashboard configurations." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984106	16:15
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zykes-	shall I post the iptables stuff ?	16:16
zykes-	and networking setu	16:16
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zykes-	p	16:16
Kiall	sure	16:17
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zykes-	Kiall: node 1 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/583081/	16:29
zykes-	node 2 http://paste.pocoo.org/show/583083/	16:30
Kiall	"multi-host = True? should that not be multi_host=True	16:30
Kiall	(the _ vs -)	16:30
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zykes-	lemme try Kiall	16:34
zykes-	rebooting the compute nodes now	16:34
zykes-	Kiall: you got any knowledge to sheepdog or ceph?	16:34
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Kiall	Nope. Looked at gluster once, but it was just too slow ;)	16:35
zykes-	what you use then Kiall ?	16:35
Kiall	Nothing at the moment.. If an instance dies, it dies, build a new one ;)	16:35
uvirtbot	New bug: #984130 in openstack-manuals "PDF link in Compute API dev guide gives 404 error" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984130	16:35
Kiall	Also - Since your using multi-host networking.. migration wont work	16:36
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Kiall	(I've been trying to get a working patch for that all day..)	16:36
zykes-	Kiall: why ?: \|	16:36
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zykes-	how does people do it if not then ? :\|	16:37
Kiall	Because instances on Host1 get a default gateway of, say, .1 and instances on Host2 get a default gateway of, say, .2	16:37
Kiall	when you migrate, things fek up	16:37
zykes-	hmm, but shouldn't you with more then 1 node use multihost ?	16:37
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Kiall	Not necessarily, the multi_host setting has nothing to do with having multiple hosts (yea.. i know)	16:38
zykes-	but why can't I get online then without it ?	16:38
Kiall	It has to do with each host running its own nova-network instance, to remove the SPOF that is nova-network without it	16:38
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zykes-	Kiall: so you kill 1 bad thing and gain another	16:39
zykes-	that's kinda wicked	16:39
Kiall	I know -_-	16:39
Kiall	Hence I've been trying to get it working all day!	16:39
Kiall	Nearly there though ;)	16:39
zykes-	what's the normal thing to run then? multi host or not ?	16:39
Kiall	There are a bunch of different ways to do it.. but as always, there are tradeoffs	16:40
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Kiall	the tradeoff for multi-host is no SPOF, but no migration	16:40
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Kiall	You can also use an active/active or active/passive hardware router, and keep migration..	16:41
Kiall	but floating IP traffic is still subject to the SPOF	16:41
zykes-	why is it ?	16:41
Kiall	Because floating IP traffic still goes via nova-network, even when a hardware router is in use..	16:42
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Kiall	Quantum will help here in F	16:42
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zykes-	k	16:42
zykes-	but my networking didn't work even without multi host	16:43
WormMan	multi-host is very friendly, it's just really picky about who its friends are :)	16:43
zykes-	floating that is	16:43
Kiall	WormMan, true ;)	16:43
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zykes-	tried again Kiall, nothin	16:44
Kiall	Weird, I dont see anything else obviously wrong	16:44
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zykes-	:(	16:45
zykes-	like now i should be able to ping a floating ip i think, but nooo	16:46
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Kiall	OMG. No wonder it hasnt been working -_-	16:47
Kiall	I had a typo in the new flag I added! grr	16:47
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jasonb	If I'm configuring a stock FlatDHCPManager with eth0 being the gateway interface, and br100 having no "ports", then which of those should be configured to be the public_interface and which should be the flat_interface??	16:47
jasonb	(in nova.conf?)	16:48
Kiall	normally, neither of those is set directly to a bridge name	16:48
zykes-	worth mentioning Kiall, i've got problems in the gues instance as well: wget: can't connect to remote host (169.254.169.254): Connection timed out	16:48
zykes-	wibder if they are inter related	16:48
Kiall	probably ;)	16:49
Kiall	are you using the ubuntu packages, or something else?	16:49
zykes-	centos	16:49
jasonb	Kiall: So if I only have eth0 before I start installing nova, then what should I end up setting flat_interface and public_interface to?	16:49
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Kiall	jasona, as far as I understand, you have to do some trickery to get things working with only 1 interface	16:50
jasonb	I'm asking because your nova.conf config example shows public_interface set to br100 and that seems wrong to me.. http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/nova-conf-file.html	16:50
Kiall	I've never needed to do that though...	16:50
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Kiall	jasonb, on a host of mine with FlatDHCP and 2 nics, I have this:	16:50
Kiall	--public_interface=eth0 --flat_interface=eth1 --flat_network_bridge=br100	16:50
jasonb	I could make an eth0:1 but I haven't seen any config examples of that.. and I don't know if it really does have to be separate nic hardware for some reason.	16:50
eneabio	kiall: sorry, what I have to do with nova-api-metadata service?	16:50
Kiall	where nova sets up br100, and adds eth1 to it for me	16:51
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zykes-	bloody crap, I'm freaking clueless	16:51
Kiall	eneabio, run it on the compute nodes ;)	16:51
zykes-	Kiall: you got no clues?	16:51
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Kiall	Wipe and try again? ;)	16:52
zykes-	:/	16:52
Kiall	Honestly though - kinda distracted trying to get multi_host+migration working	16:52
zykes-	not wanting to reinstall both nodes	16:52
Kiall	But - I didn't see anything obvious wrong..	16:52
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jasonb	Kiall: Okay. Thanks for that info. Still, documenting the most common use case (one NIC) would sure help.. If I can get it working, I'll open a doc bug and donate my configs.	16:52
zykes-	http://paste.pocoo.org/show/583103/ - http://paste.pocoo.org/show/583106/ < that's how it looks Kiall while running	16:53
Kiall	jasonb, i very much doubt 1 NIC is the most common use case ;)	16:53
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Kiall	But.. yea.. it should be doc'd	16:53
jasonb	zykes-: Do your machines have two or more NICs in them?	16:53
zykes-	6 pr compu node	16:54
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Kiall	Right, we have either 4+mgmt or 6+mgmt is most of our hardware	16:54
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jasonb	hmmf.	16:55
jasonb	I guess they don't make these quantum computers with more than one nic yet..	16:55
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Kiall	WormMan, Just implemented your idea for sharing a single IP between all the nova-network nodes.. Seems to be working a charm :)	16:58
Kiall	(finally! Took me a few months to get to it!)	16:59
WormMan	Kiall: heh, yea, that's always a bit 'special'	16:59
zykes-	Kiall: what is the idea ?	16:59
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Kiall	So.. Migration should (mostly) work now..	16:59
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Kiall	Just gotta get DHCP stuff, and floating IP NAT moved to the new network host too ;)	16:59
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Kiall	zykes-, right now (with multi_host), every nova-network instance gets an IP on every network (you usually only have 1, unless you use VLANs)..	17:00
WormMan	yea, it does make DHCP a bit of a pain	17:00
eneabio	kiall: apt-get install nova-api-metadata on the compute?	17:00
Kiall	The issue is, when you migrate, the instance has a default route of the OLD nova-network IP	17:00
Kiall	eneabio, yup	17:00
zykes-	ah ok	17:00
zykes-	Kiall: so what you using thne ?	17:01
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Kiall	(among other things)	17:01
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Kiall	So.. Now, I've got it so every nova-network instance gets the same IP, and ARP packets are prevent from leaking outside the same physical server	17:01
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Kiall	That means they instances should keep their connectivity when a migration is done..	17:02
zykes-	ok	17:02
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Kiall	But, for now, they will loose their DHCP lease after a few seconds...	17:02
Kiall	(Next on my list)	17:02
zykes-	I think i'll give up soon, been trying for 2 hours now to fix this :(	17:02
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zykes-	Kiall: it attaches the /32 address to the nodes WAN interface and adds iptasbles stuff but nothing	17:04
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zykes-	Kiall: I think the word "D0h" describes my situaton the most: "sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" < painkiller	17:07
Kiall	LOL	17:08
Kiall	that was it?	17:08
zykes-	;p	17:08
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jasonb	zykes-: You had to do that on your nova-network host?	17:11
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B_Night	Hi Guys	17:27
B_Night	I have a question regarding Swift	17:28
B_Night	I create a test install with testauth	17:28
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B_Night	however is there a way to make Swift serve content to public via URL	17:28
B_Night	because when I try to access for example: https://15.185.165.235:8080/v1/AUTH_System/blaga/blagiandNadin.jpg	17:28
B_Night	it give me 401 error	17:28
B_Night	is there a way to make this url accessible by all ?	17:29
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B_Night	i browse trough all possible documentation	17:30
B_Night	did try making the container public	17:31
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B_Night	with swift post -r '.r:*' blaga	17:31
B_Night	but no help	17:31
B_Night	stil 401	17:31
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jasonb	What is vnet0 supposed to be for? It keeps creating that and adding it to br100. Do I then need to configure nova.conf to use it?	17:37
kbringard	that is the VM's virtual ethernet adapter	17:37
jasonb	Do I need to set flat_interface=vnet0?	17:38
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kbringard	hmm, I have not done much with the flat networking modes	17:38
kbringard	but, vnet0 should be generated by nova… I think it'll be like vnet1, 2, 3 etc as more VMs are spawned	17:38
jasonb	Okay, that makes sense.	17:39
kbringard	I need to go find some caffeine	17:39
kbringard	I'll bbl :-)	17:39
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Kiall	that was it?	17:53
Kiall	gah.. wrong window -_-	17:53
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uvirtbot	New bug: #984219 in nova "resize doesn't properly update launched at times" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/984219	18:01
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zykes-	Kiall: around still ?	18:12
Kiall	just about..	18:12
zykes-	you said with multi_host that I would get multiple gateways?	18:13
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Kiall	No, you would get 1	18:13
Kiall	but when the instance migrates, the GW would need to change	18:13
zykes-	<g	18:13
zykes-	ah	18:13
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zykes-	why not use some linux cluster stuff ?	18:14
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zykes-	why would you need a gw change Kiall ?	18:15
Kiall	zykes-, because when the instance moves to a new server (with multi_host enabled), it needs to use a different nova-network instance as a gateway...	18:16
Kiall	You can (as I said earlier..) have a physical router in place of nova-network as the GW	18:16
Kiall	but that doesnt help with floating IPs etc etc	18:16
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zykes-	hmmm	18:17
zykes-	how you solved it ten ?	18:17
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Kiall	I'm still working on that ;)	18:17
Kiall	I've somehow just borked my ability to migrate ;)	18:18
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zykes-	:o	18:20
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zykes-	Kiall: what way you think it could be done thne ?	18:20
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Kiall	By forcing all nova-network instances to use the same IP, the instance doesnt need any changes once it migrates.. This simulates using a hardware router, but keeping nova-network	18:21
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zykes-	couldn't k	18:21
zykes-	how can you have it to the same it	18:21
zykes-	ip	18:21
Kiall	Once I get that going, I'll see what's involved in having migrate move the floating IP	18:21
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Kiall	well, you can just assign it in the same IP.. But you need to prevent ARP traffic for that IP from leaking out to the others nova-network nodes, or their VMs.	18:22
Kiall	this can be done with ebtables..	18:22
zykes-	why not use clustering ?	18:22
Kiall	Clustering is a tad vague a suggestion ;)	18:23
Kiall	That could mean anything ;)	18:23
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Kiall	And besides. Any clustering tools would need to understand how nova-network works for the floating IP's to move.	18:23
Kiall	I dont believe any such tool exists.	18:23
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ogelbukh	gw is configured by dhcp in most deployments anyways	18:25
ogelbukh	what we have to do is force vm to use new host's dhcp server instead original one	18:26
Kiall	ogelbukh, right.. But there is a lag between moving the VM, and it getting a new lease..	18:26
ogelbukh	and this transition have to be in sync with transition of lease	18:26
ogelbukh	yes	18:26
Kiall	Hence we can avoid all that by having all the nova-network's share a single IP..	18:26
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ogelbukh	and another problem is floating ip, this should be moved in sync too	18:27
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Kiall	ogelbukh, right.. thats next on my list ;)	18:27
Kiall	(Once I get migration working again)	18:27
ogelbukh	:)	18:27
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ogelbukh	does VM's arp cache restrict use of same ip per all nova-network nodes?	18:29
ogelbukh	well, not restrict	18:29
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ogelbukh	but it seems to me it can cause some packet loss	18:29
cloudfly	ogel it has been done before	18:29
Kiall	ogelbukh, yea.. its fixable though	18:29
cloudfly	you'd need to suppress arp traffic	18:29
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cloudfly	it's a terrible solution	18:30
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WormMan	works great for us... but we don't do migration :)	18:30
ogelbukh	we can make them share mac address also.. )	18:31
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Kiall	ogelbukh, right.. I want to see what sort of lag I get with the GW IPs ARP blocked from exiting the server first	18:31
WormMan	lag?	18:32
Kiall	if its more than a few seconds.. I'll probably look at fudging the mac address too	18:32
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WormMan	ahh, for your failover :)	18:32
Kiall	WormMan, the instance will have an incorrect mac address in the arp table once the migration is complete..	18:32
ogelbukh	not exactly a failover	18:32
ogelbukh	more of transition )	18:33
WormMan	Kiall: yea, Gratutitous ARP on the physical hardware or make them all use the same MAC :)	18:33
Kiall	ogelbukh, add shared storage and STONITH, and failover is pretty "e"asy once this works	18:33
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WormMan	I just want working non-shared-storage migration :)	18:33
WormMan	(mostly to play with it)	18:34
Kiall	well - by failover, i mean, reboot the instance immediately on another node..	18:34
ogelbukh	yes, I see	18:34
Kiall	WormMan, nova live-migration --block_migrate $uuid $dest_server	18:34
ogelbukh	though it is HA, at least in vmware terms..	18:34
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Kiall	Hence correcting myself ;)	18:34
WormMan	hmm, reminds me, I need to see if anyone is working on a way to say 'this instance is allowed to steal other IP addreses' to run something like corosync between instances with a VIP	18:34
ogelbukh	block migration should d othe trick, yes	18:35
WormMan	(private IP failover)	18:35
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Kiall	WormMan, yea.. I've been wanting that too.. I dont think is doable really (with LOTS of change) in essex.. but maybe quantum will help here..	18:35
zykes-	isn't there migration stuff yet ?	18:35
Kiall	(Note to self: look into quantum properly)	18:35
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WormMan	Kiall: well, it actually works fine, I just have to remove all IP checks from KVM(we have a special security group that does that for the couple instances we do that on)	18:36
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cloudfly	worman i think the netstack folks have an idea on that	18:36
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cloudfly	i know more than one group has come up with PaaS images that work as routers between stack environments	18:36
cloudfly	something more formal and a component of netstack seems to be inevitable	18:37
cloudfly	we may see some sort of plan post folsom summit	18:37
zykes-	cloudfly: image ?	18:37
cloudfly	ours was not distributable	18:38
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cloudfly	also a pretty nasty hack	18:38
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zykes-	so you can't have migration with networking always being up atm, kinda funky ;p	18:39
zykes-	doesn't nicira solve this some way ?	18:39
cloudfly	sometimes a hack is so nasty it's best left in the cellar where it can be chained and fed fish heads	18:39
cloudfly	zykes yes	18:39
cloudfly	nicira does solve that and more	18:39
zykes-	but not upstream yeT ?	18:40
cloudfly	and if you have the coin i recommend it	18:40
cloudfly	zykes i think nicira will probably not port that up	18:40
cloudfly	since that's their money making component	18:40
zykes-	you mean multi node stuff ?	18:40
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cloudfly	well dynamic networking stuff	18:40
cloudfly	in general	18:40
zykes-	;p	18:40
zykes-	does it build on quantum or ?	18:41
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cloudfly	though it'll be interesting to see how openflow integrates into netstack	18:41
cloudfly	nicira is pluggable into quantum	18:41
cloudfly	that's how it was written	18:41
zykes-	k	18:41
cloudfly	but nicira's solution also has its own api	18:41
cloudfly	with increased capabilities	18:42
cloudfly	=/	18:42
zykes-	how come noone has created something similar ?	18:42
cloudfly	it's hard	18:42
zykes-	i mean, all other kinds of features are there ;p	18:42
cloudfly	also the entirety of networking in openstack is not clearly defined yet	18:42
cloudfly	I am hoping folsom locks down some of the fundamental questions	18:42
cloudfly	like will network containers exist?	18:42
cloudfly	what will quantum end up looking like	18:42
cloudfly	how will openflow integration work	18:43
WormMan	network has hurt since I started looking at Openstack a year ago	18:43
cloudfly	etc etc	18:43
cloudfly	worman it shipped broken by default	18:43
cloudfly	nicira has been pushing quantum hard	18:43
cloudfly	seems cisco is now involved	18:43
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cloudfly	so lots of discussion on the netstack list	18:43
cloudfly	i'd suggest reading	18:43
cloudfly	also they are doing a lot at this summit	18:43
cloudfly	i think that and keystone are probably the two biggest question marks at the moment	18:44
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WormMan	hmm, everyone here sure seems to like shared storage	18:45
sstent	wormman: correct :P	18:46
zykes-	isn't quantum getting nicer ?	18:46
zykes-	kind of like keystone at diablo	18:46
WormMan	I like not-shared storage, makes my network performance needs much lower	18:46
sstent	wormman: you can get away without shared storage, jsut have to forgo migration. which kind of sucks.	18:47
WormMan	it's a cloud, just click 'terminate instance' in your software deployment dashboard then click 'deploy new node'	18:48
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zykes-	how does nicira solve it then ? create a distributed "router" ?	18:48
WormMan	(and in a few short years, that will even work here :) )	18:49
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sstent	wormman: the main issue is for when you want to do planned maintenance on a node. how do you manage the instances if you cant migrate them to another host	18:49
WormMan	you should have paid for VMWare, obviously :)	18:49
Kiall	sstent, thats a different mindset than most people who want to use OpenStack have ;)	18:50
WormMan	(and signs do point to migration working without shared storage, but it's not going to be quite as fast)	18:50
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zykes-	cloudfly: what does nicira do ?	18:50
Kiall	sstent, When EC2 do hardware maintenance, the hit delete on your VMs ;)	18:50
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Kiall	(or at least, they can if they want.. Not sure in practice)	18:50
WormMan	I think the QEMU2 image format does have some stuff that can make migration staging possible and do a fast final sync, but I expect that's not quite here yet	18:51
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zykes-	Kiall: you know if Donabe has gone anywhere ?	18:52
Kiall	No clue..	18:52
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mknight88	Can someone help me with keystone endpoint-create, I am following this guide pg.10, http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/openstack-install-guide-trunk.pdf	19:21
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soukihei	has anyone else experienced a problem loading the glance image, as described in the install guide in trunk?	19:21
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soukihei	mknight88, what are you having trouble with?	19:26
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mknight88	soukihei, when using the tenant_id variable, i have tried serveral suggestions from others, as well as the guide, but the variable contents are never used	19:27
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mknight88	publicurl \| http://10.3.10.211:8774/v2/$(tenant_id)s	19:27
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mknight88	following the guide, leads to the same proble,	19:27
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soukihei	I've gone through this portion of the guide, as recent as yesterday and it works	19:28
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soukihei	do you have the trunk version dated apr 13?	19:28
mknight88	kk, so help me (if you don't mind :) ) make sure i have the corect versions, yes 13th version	19:28
soukihei	ok	19:28
mknight88	im not sure if i am using the latest versions of keystone, etc.. i used the 12.04 ubs x64 daily from the 16th, and then normal apt-get packages	19:29
soukihei	does running 'keystone service-list' output the services you created?	19:29
mknight88	also, i am using mysql backend..	19:29
soukihei	same	19:29
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soukihei	also, I suggest creating an alias for keystone that includes the token and endpoint, so you don't have to go typing those in repetitively	19:30
mknight88	yes, as long as i use keystone tok end service-list (roughly)	19:30
soukihei	yes	19:30
mknight88	yea, i agree, my method was a terrible shortcut	19:30
mknight88	keystone $KTOK $KEND service-list	19:30
mknight88	lol	19:31
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soukihei	so after going through the service-create commands, I ended up with 5 listings in that output	19:32
mknight88	soukihei, better? $keystone service-list	19:32
soukihei	one for ec2, image, compute, volume and identity	19:32
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mknight88	i have nova, keystone, glance, ec2	19:32
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soukihei	so when you make the corresponding endpoint-create for each service, are you using the proper ID?	19:34
mknight88	right now, i am just trying to create a single endpoint for nova, let me verify correct id	19:34
soukihei	you can use the command 'keystone endpoint-list' to see what you've got in there already	19:35
mknight88	soukihei, yep serv id matches	19:35
mknight88	so far the only part that hasn't worked is the %(tenant_id)s	19:35
mknight88	never replaces the tenant id with the variable name	19:36
soukihei	the variable must not be created	19:36
soukihei	let me paste what I created in pastebin.com and you can compare	19:36
mknight88	so the guide never had me manually define it previously, was there some script that should have defined it?	19:36
mknight88	kk	19:36
mknight88	soukihei, thank you for your help btw	19:36
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soukihei	you're welcome	19:38
soukihei	so the $(tenant_ids) the documentation references should match the id of your service tenant	19:38
soukihei	do this	19:38
soukihei	keystone tenant-list	19:39
soukihei	take the service id and create a local variable in your shell	19:39
soukihei	TENANT={id from command}	19:39
soukihei	and then you can use the variable $TENANT in the endpoint-create commands as described in the documentation	19:39
mknight88	0.o	19:40
mknight88	wait, let me confirm something with you	19:40
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mknight88	that isn't stored as a variable,? i can just put a static tenant id in the command?	19:40
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jasonb	When I spin up a new VM, it assigns the VM's eth0 to the wrong network (maybe because I've tried too many different configurations at this point). I've set fixed_range in nova.conf to the network I want to use, and it's set for FlatDHCPManager, but it uses a different network. Where should I look now?	19:41
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soukihei	yes, you could just copy/paste the service tenant id into your command	19:42
soukihei	either way, when you run a keystone endpoint-list command afterwards, it will show the url with the full id in the string	19:42
mknight88	wow	19:42
mknight88	i thought that was a dynamic variable based on the tenant, didn't know it was just a shortcut for entering the command	19:43
mknight88	THANK YOU	19:43
Kiall	wait.. ;)	19:43
Kiall	It is a "dynamic variable"	19:43
mknight88	0.o	19:43
Kiall	Keystone replaces the $(tenant_id) on the fly as it sends data back out	19:44
mknight88	shoot, that is what i was thinking	19:44
mknight88	so, i need to get it entered correctly, and not just throw the tenant id int here	19:44
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Kiall	keystone endpoint-create bla bla 'http://bla/$(tenant_id)' ;)	19:45
Kiall	(Use single quotes)	19:45
mknight88	will try that as well, could sware i have tried every combo of quotes and % vs $	19:46
mknight88	testing	19:46
Kiall	when you run `keystone endpoint-list`, you should see something like this: http://X.X.X.X:8776/v1/$(tenant_id)s	19:47
Kiall	if not, its not right ;)	19:47
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mknight88	wait, I am supposed to see the variable in the endpoint-list command????	19:47
mknight88	\| adminurl \| http://10.3.10.211:8774/v2/$(tenant_id)s \|	19:48
Kiall	Yea - thats perfect	19:48
mknight88	OMG	19:48
mknight88	ive had it right the whole time	19:48
mknight88	lol	19:48
Kiall	LOL	19:48
mknight88	wow	19:48
mknight88	fml	19:48
mknight88	then i would say the guide is a lil misleading	19:48
Kiall	heh..	19:49
mknight88	lol	19:49
Kiall	I used this as a guide: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/files/default_catalog.templates	19:49
mknight88	see, i was thinking i was doing something wrong, in the trunk guide (vs 4/13/2012), the confirmation for the command entered, shows the actual tenant id, so i was thinking mine should match	19:50
Kiall	where is that?	19:51
mknight88	in reality, the guide should show the variable in the url, and not the real id	19:51
mknight88	standby,	19:51
mknight88	http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/keystone-service-endpoint-create.html	19:51
mknight88	location:	19:51
Kiall	Yea - that looks wrong to me	19:52
mknight88	section 2/ installing / installing / defining / creating	19:52
Kiall	annegentle, ^	19:52
mknight88	wow, what a relief	19:52
mknight88	THANK YOU	19:52
Kiall	Anyway, give `keystone catalog` a go..	19:52
Kiall	it should look like this once your done:	19:52
Kiall	http://pastie.org/3806333	19:53
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Kiall	(Note: the variables get expanded in the output of that command)	19:53
mknight88	.....nice	19:53
mknight88	hmmm, guess i need to move forward in the guide	19:54
mknight88	$keystone catalog	19:54
mknight88	'Client' object has no attribute 'service_catalog'	19:54
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Kiall	Maybe that command doesnt work until your further in ..	19:54
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mknight88	thats my guess	19:54
mknight88	are you using the mysql backend or the templated backend?	19:55
Kiall	keystone	19:55
Kiall	mysql	19:55
Kiall	lol	19:55
Kiall	And.. At least the essex keystone CLI tools are somewhat usable ;) The diablo tools were painful..	19:55
Kiall	I just edited the DB directly in diablo. never got the CLI to work ;)	19:55
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mknight88	lol	19:55
mknight88	that is painful	19:55
zykes-	cli in diablo was like getting raped	19:55
mknight88	i haven't had a bad time, per say, just finding the correct packages is a pain till 12.04 is released	19:56
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zykes-	keystone in diablo was like getting smacked in the face eache time you thought it worked :p	19:56
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mknight88	does your /etc/keystone/keystone.conf have this?	19:56
mknight88	[identity]	19:56
mknight88	driver = keystone.identity.backends.sql.Identity	19:56
mknight88	[catalog]	19:56
mknight88	driver = keystone.catalog.backends.sql.Catalog	19:56
zykes-	yes	19:56
mknight88	kk, just making sure, knew there were some options based on what route you chose	19:57
B_Night	Hi Again	19:57
B_Night	can someone help me with Swift	19:57
zykes-	anyone tested quantum ?	19:57
B_Night	?	19:57
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B_Night	i have a question is there a way	19:59
B_Night	swift to serve public files	20:00
B_Night	like S3 with simple url ?	20:00
soukihei	mknight88, let me know if you get Glance to correctly upload the kernel to it (page 18). I'm getting errors related to authentication and json tokens	20:00
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imsplitbit	I'm hoping you guys can help me. I'm working on a driver for opevz containers and I am updating it to work with trunk and I am having an issue where even though I've added a network to nova assigned to the one host I have for testing and it's not handing out an ip to my instances	20:01
Kiall	soukihei, once you have keystone working, you can create an openrc file (template: http://pastie.org/3806388 )	20:01
Kiall	then "source openrc"	20:01
zykes-	have you tested it kia?	20:01
soukihei	Kiall, yeah I did that. still no joy	20:01
Kiall	they you dont need to pass auth info to the varions command	20:01
Kiall	ah.. if they are still failing, you have something wrong ;)	20:02
soukihei	and I triple-checked the authentication I'm using matches the commands I used to create the glance user	20:02
Kiall	what error are you getting?	20:02
Kiall	zykes-, tested what?	20:02
zykes-	quantum	20:02
soukihei	2012-04-17 10:24:40 1080 WARNING [keystone.middleware.auth_token] Unexpected response from keystone service: {u'error': {u'message': u'Invalid user / password', u'code': 401, u'title': u'Not Authorized'}}	20:02
soukihei	2012-04-17 10:24:40 1080 CRITICAL [keystone.middleware.auth_token] Unable to obtain admin token: invalid json response	20:02
Kiall	ah.. no. I've never really looked at it even	20:02
soukihei	those are the two errors that pop into /var/log/glance/api.log when I execute the glance command	20:02
Kiall	soukihei, does `keystone catalog` work for you?	20:03
Kiall	Paste the output if it does..	20:03
soukihei	no, I get a 'Client' object has no attribute 'service_catalog' error	20:03
Kiall	(not here! use paste.openstack.org ;))	20:03
Kiall	Humm - If you have keystone, and the openrc file setup right.. that should be working	20:04
mknight88	lol, i step away for a few mins, and my keyston server is locked up	20:04
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Kiall	soukihei, how about `keystone service-list` and `keystone endpoint-list`	20:05
soukihei	Kiall, those two commands work just fine	20:05
Kiall	can you still the output on pastebin?	20:06
soukihei	Kiall sure	20:06
soukihei	http://paste.openstack.org/show/12926/	20:06
Kiall	The service list is missing the s3 entry, but that wont hurt until you try and use the EC2 / S3 API..	20:08
Kiall	The compute and volume service URLs are wrong though	20:08
Kiall	They should have "$(tenant_id)s" in place of "14ab129c5f0643b59f26e489ed668634"	20:09
mknight88	soukihei, i wont be at pg18 for quite some time lol, but now that i am on the irc channel, will say hi periodically, feel free to drop me a pm	20:09
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soukihei	Kiall, alright I'll try recreating those two again then	20:10
zykes-	what have you been working on then Kiall ?	20:10
Kiall	soukihei, honestly.. just edit the DB direct ;)	20:10
Kiall	Its faster	20:10
soukihei	ok	20:11
jasonb	That http://169.254.169.254 request that the VM is doing to get "metadata".. what info is it trying to get?	20:11
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jasonb	(and failing)	20:11
Kiall	zykes-, nothing.. given up for the day.. Been on the same thing for too long ;)	20:11
zykes-	;p	20:12
zykes-	i feel kinda stupid when I had the forwarding thing	20:12
zykes-	is that documented btw?	20:12
B_Night	Kiall could you advice on my Swift issue i have simple swift install with tempauth	20:12
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Kiall	B_Night, I've never used swift - I've no need for it	20:12
B_Night	ahh	20:13
Kiall	soukihei, The end result should look like this.. http://paste.openstack.org/show/12928/	20:13
B_Night	bad i hope that someone here could help me	20:13
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Kiall	Pity there is no easy way to check that the endpoints are assigned to the right services ;)	20:13
soukihei	and if it is working correctly, then keystone catalog should work as well	20:14
Kiall	You might want to check they are by doing each one like this this: "keystone endpoint-get --service identity"	20:14
Kiall	then match that URL up with what you expect to get fom the endpoint-list	20:14
Kiall	Yea - `keystone catalog` has no external dependencies.. If its not working, chances are your keystone is not setup right..	20:15
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mknight88	fyi, my keystone catalog command doesn't work either, investigating	20:17
mknight88	yea nothing in the guide is left after i do endpoint-create, so not sure why that isn't working	20:18
Kiall	you guys using 12.04 + the stock packages? (Just in case your using something else, and its broken in whatever your using..)	20:21
mknight88	yep, 12.04 daily x64 from the 16th	20:21
soukihei	yes, I'm up-to-date with 12.04 packages as of about 4 hours ago	20:21
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mknight88	so, i may have found something, that i personally did not do	20:22
soukihei	and even after fixing my endpoint-list, I still get the error on keystone catalog	20:22
Kiall	yea, those packages do work..	20:22
mknight88	the mailing list speaks of soemone having this issue, and they were supposed to set some env variables	20:22
mknight88	well, i would never accuse openstack of having a bug, 99% of the time its my fualt	20:23
mknight88	lol	20:23
mknight88	what do you think about this link?	20:23
mknight88	https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg09012.html	20:23
Kiall	lol .. run these, paste the output..	20:23
Kiall	http://paste.openstack.org/show/12929/	20:23
Kiall	You should see these results, with different UUIDs placed in.. http://paste.openstack.org/show/12930/	20:24
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Kiall	any of them fail?	20:24
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soukihei	all of them, with the same error "'Client' object has no attribute 'service_catalog'"	20:24
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WormMan	I've not found any bugs, just some missing features... Like decent database performance for the EC2 API :)	20:25
soukihei	I must have missed something in the install document	20:25
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mknight88	same here	20:25
Kiall	Let me see what happens if I have an invalid openrc file with those commands...	20:25
mknight88	did you look at that link, regarding the env variables	20:25
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Kiall	AHHH	20:27
Kiall	run `export SERVICE_TOKEN=` then `export SERVICE_ENDPOINT=`	20:27
Kiall	then `source openrc` again (just in case..) and try again	20:27
soukihei	leave them blank? or add something after the = sign?	20:27
Kiall	no, exactly like that	20:28
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soukihei	same error	20:28
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Kiall	and your openrc file looks like (minus the PW..)?	20:28
soukihei	just as the Apr 13 document says it should	20:28
soukihei	and I can see the variables using echo are matching the file entries	20:28
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Kiall	`env \| grep SERVICE` still show those 2 vars?	20:29
soukihei	only SERVICE_TOKEN	20:30
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Kiall	Does it have a value, or?	20:30
soukihei	blank	20:30
Kiall	(I can re-create the same error, by giving those env variables values)	20:31
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Kiall	once i blank them out, it works again..	20:31
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soukihei	and no entries in either api.log or registry.log to help	20:32
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mknight88	i know for a fact, i haven't touched any openrc stuff, prolly my issue for catalog not repsonding	20:33
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mknight88	but i don't see in the guide where openrc is mentioned for keystone	20:34
mknight88	i see it later in nova	20:34
mknight88	pg19	20:34
Kiall	the "openrc" file is just a bunch of env variables that all the openstack CLI tools can use to auth..	20:35
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Kiall	keystone should be able to use it to auth against itself, before anything else is working..	20:35
mknight88	so, no software needed to set it up...?	20:35
Kiall	(I know for a fact it can..)	20:35
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mknight88	i was just referring to the keystone doc section not having you set it up	20:36
Kiall	Nope - Just pop the right values in..	20:36
Kiall	http://pastie.org/3806593	20:36
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Kiall	the auth URL should be the keystone server BTW	20:36
mknight88	save the file as /home/openrc ?	20:36
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soukihei	I can use the user/pass combination to get the curl command to output everything correctly	20:37
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Kiall	soukihei, that suggests keystone is working.. but if the keystone catalog command doesnt work, then neither will any of the other CLI tools (like glance..)	20:37
Kiall	Close out your shell, and start a fresh one..	20:37
soukihei	so there is some disconnect somewhere	20:38
Kiall	then double check the openrc file, re-source it, and try it again..	20:38
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soukihei	go figure, that worked	20:38
Kiall	lol	20:38
Kiall	You had some sort of leftover ;)	20:38
soukihei	so aggravating	20:38
soukihei	been bouncing my head against it for a few hours	20:38
soukihei	so hopefully now I can upload the kernel image	20:39
mknight88	I HEAR YA	20:39
mknight88	when u say OS_PASSWORD, which password is this?	20:39
mknight88	they keystone token ?	20:39
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soukihei	Kiall, well keystone appears to be working. but that didn't solve my glance issue. still getting an unable to obtain admin token error when I try to upload the ttylinux vmlinuz kernel to glance	20:41
Kiall	Yea.. First time I installed openstack was something like that ;)	20:41
Kiall	No - not a token	20:41
Kiall	a password was setup at some point (I've never actually read the guide you guys are using ;) not sure what they suggest)	20:41
mknight88	ur so cool, lol	20:41
zykes-	;p	20:41
Kiall	What does your glance-(api\|registry)-paste look like?	20:42
zykes-	what problems are you having mknight88 ?	20:42
mknight88	lol, user errors	20:42
mknight88	lack of understand, and massive learning curve for me, nothing i can't get over	20:42
Kiall	And they are slowly compounding it seems ;)	20:42
mknight88	LOL	20:42
mknight88	so true	20:42
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soukihei	Kiall, they look exactly as they should -- again, as the document suggests.	20:43
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mknight88	tho, when i use the guide as my confirmation, and its wrong, i freak out a lil, thinking i did something wrong, that being said, i am aware this guide is a draft and i respect it as such	20:43
Kiall	which doc is this? (There are too many_	20:43
soukihei	http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/	20:44
mknight88	http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/novarc-file.html	20:44
soukihei	the one straight off the main docs.openstack.org site	20:44
mknight88	glad we are at least on the same page	20:44
mknight88	:D	20:44
Kiall	soukihei, yea.. heard you say a page number earlier and assumed it was something different ;)	20:44
mknight88	someone gets to share my pain lol	20:44
mknight88	oh yea my password is "yourpassword" per the guide	20:45
mknight88	LOL	20:45
Kiall	lol	20:45
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mknight88	i could care less about security on this, using private ip space and in a sandbox	20:45
mknight88	$keystone catalog	20:46
mknight88	'Client' object has no attribute 'service_catalog' GRRR	20:46
Kiall	mknight88, close your shell.. start another, `source openrc` and try again ;)	20:46
Kiall	(Thats not a joke..)	20:46
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soukihei	glance should use the environment variables right?	20:48
Kiall	yup - it should, if its failing to auth against keystone, something in the glance config is incorrect	20:48
Kiall	check the admin_* settings as a start..	20:49
mknight88	same error, what is the full string for catalog?	20:49
mknight88	should it have --token and --endpoint in there?	20:50
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Kiall	mknight88, It should work with just the openrc variables and `keystone catalog`	20:50
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mknight88	ah, then that is my problem	20:50
mknight88	im using my shortcut for "keystone --token=bla --endpoint=bla"	20:51
annegentle	mknight88: oh do tell. I'm trying to troubleshoot the difficulty myself to fix that doc.	20:51
mknight88	need to use raw "keystone catalog"	20:51
Kiall	And without?	20:51
mknight88	keystone catalog	20:51
mknight88	No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.client"	20:51
mknight88	Invalid user / password (HTTP 401)	20:51
mknight88	lol more errors	20:51
mknight88	again, prolly my fault	20:51
Kiall	annegentle, looks like this caught them both: https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/962600	20:51
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annegentle	Kiall: ohhhhh	20:52
Kiall	specifically - if SERVICE_TOKEN or SERVICE_ENDPOINT are still set as env variables, they take precedence over any other auth vars..	20:53
mknight88	yep just read that,	20:53
mknight88	based on my new error tho, i think admin is the wrong user name for me	20:53
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Kiall	mknight88, possibly - I'm not sure what the default user that guide uses..	20:54
Kiall	"Create a default user named adminUser."	20:54
mknight88	playing around, will tell you what the guide correct version is	20:54
mknight88	so tenant "service" and yes, what you said, "adminUser"	20:54
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Kiall	looks like the doc uses "openstackDemo" as the tenant	20:55
mknight88	love debugging user error	20:55
mknight88	well, is that the tenant or is service the tenant, has us create both, and i believe the services are tied to tenant=service, I THINK	20:55
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Kiall	annegentle, it would probably help to introduce the openrc file at the end of the keystone section.	20:55
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mknight88	or....OR....	20:56
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Kiall	And, until `keystone catalog` works via it, dont move onto glance	20:56
mknight88	before service creation	20:56
mknight88	before endpoint-creation* i mean	20:56
mknight88	cuz thats where i am at, and failing	20:56
Kiall	That would prevent people from debugging glance issues that are actually keystone issues :)	20:56
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drecute	does all openstack project have a java port/	20:57
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Kiall	mknight88, well, it cant be introduced too early.. It will only start to work after you create the services and endpoints	20:58
mknight88	ok that makes perfect sense actually	20:58
Kiall	Yea basically, once keystone is configured, only then will the openrc file work..	20:58
mknight88	USER IS KEYSTONE	20:59
mknight88	sorry....	20:59
Kiall	mknight88, user is adminUser if you didnt change anything from the guide ;)	20:59
mknight88	user="keystone" pw per guide is "yourpassword"	20:59
Kiall	username=adminUser / password=secretword / tenant=openstackDemo	20:59
Kiall	(according to the guide)	20:59
mknight88	...still didn't work for me lol	21:00
drecute	I mean, for each openstack project, is there a java build?	21:00
mknight88	which page is that, showing adminUser?	21:00
Kiall	dragondm, You mean client library to interact with it?	21:00
Kiall	mknight88, http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/setting-up-tenants-users-and-roles.html	21:00
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mknight88	u referring to keystone user-list?	21:00
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Kiall	I dont see user-list mentioned on that page ;)	21:01
mknight88	yep secretword, told you, more user errors....	21:01
Kiall	lol	21:01
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mknight88	your right, its not listed, i meant, are you referring to useres created within keystone, which was in itself, a dumb question	21:02
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Kiall	;)	21:02
mknight88	IVE GOT A CATALOG	21:02
mknight88	one service, but a catalog none the less	21:02
Kiall	woot.. keystone + openrc should be okay now ;)	21:03
Kiall	Oh.. 1 service? lol	21:03
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Kiall	did you re-use the same UUID by mistake for everything?	21:03
mknight88	no, i stopped creating them over and over	21:03
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mknight88	see what happened, was, i kept seeing the tenant_id in "endpoint-list", so i kept deleting them and retrying other ways	21:04
mknight88	not realizing that was the correct output for that specific command, (guide is wrong in this aspect)	21:04
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mknight88	so instead of creating all of the services repeatedly, i just focused on nova, now i will go back and create them all, and move forward lol	21:05
mknight88	THANK YOU	21:05
mknight88	so for anyone who wants to see the openrc file that matches the guide, i will link below	21:05
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Kiall	mknight88 / soukihei, good luck with the rest of the guide.. I gotta run!	21:06
soukihei	Kiall, thank you for the help	21:06
Kiall	no hassle..	21:06
mknight88	http://pastebin.com/uJRga6ZR	21:07
mknight88	thank you again, sure we will meet again lol	21:07
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mknight88	annegentle, the only thing i have noticed with the guide that was outright incorrect, was this section.....below	21:08
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koolhead17	mknight88, u got endpoint thing working	21:10
mknight88	annegentle, when following the section, "endpoint-create", the confirmation box below the command shows the real tenant ID, instead of "%(tenant_id)s" , misleading	21:10
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jasonb	Why is nova-network constantly setting virbr0 to 192.168.122.1?	21:10
mknight88	i did, apparently i was doing it right the whole time, but the guide confirmation part leads you to believe its wrong	21:10
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Kiall	jasonb, its not.. thats a default network libvirt provides...	21:11
Kiall	Openstack doesnt use it	21:11
Kiall	anyway - cyas!	21:11
jasonb	Thanks.	21:11
Kiall	(in other words .. leave it be, it does no harm..)	21:11
jasonb	okie.	21:11
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mknight88	soukihei, creating the remaining endpoints and moving on to section 3	21:14
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bwong_	Hay guise	21:27
bwong_	anyone installing ESSEX?	21:27
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bwong_	Anyone know where the instructions are for ESSEX install (centos/rhel)?	21:27
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mknight88	i installed essex, but used 12.04 x64 dialy	21:28
mknight88	daily*	21:28
mknight88	ubuntu	21:28
zykes-	I wants openflows!	21:28
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zykes-	bwong_: I kind of have some home cooked ones	21:29
ayoung	bwong_, funny you should ask	21:29
ayoung	https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_EPEL	21:29
zykes-	ayoung: does it setup forwarding ?	21:29
ayoung	zykes-, ARE YOU NEVER SATISFIED?	21:29
bwong_	there are no official ones yet huh	21:30
ayoung	Actually, I don't know yet	21:30
zykes-	eh, did I do something wrong ayoung ?	21:30
ayoung	heh	21:30
ayoung	zykes-, I didn't get that far yet	21:30
ayoung	I just got the VMs to launch	21:30
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zykes-	seriously, why the caps ?	21:30
ayoung	because I didn't look as I typed...	21:31
ayoung	and I hit caps lock by accident	21:31
bwong_	ayoung: these work for rhel/centos?	21:31
zykes-	still, seems a bit mad :/	21:31
ayoung	I'm actually just back from doing the happy dance cuz I got them to work	21:31
zykes-	bwong_: correct, I've followed them to some extent for Nova	21:31
ayoung	nah...just overplayed the joke. You are still cool w/ me zykes-	21:31
zykes-	ayoung: Should one really instlal Quantum ?	21:32
ayoung	bwong_, I'm going through the F17 steps and converting them to EPEL	21:32
bwong_	oh ok	21:32
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ayoung	bwong_, once you see references to systemctrl, you know I haven't tried that step yet	21:32
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zykes-	ayoung: $> sudo openstack-config --set /etc/nova/nova.conf DEFAULT force_dhcp_release False < that you can add a optional thing for	21:32
zykes-	pixelbeat: added a dnsmasq-utils package to his repo	21:33
ayoung	bwong_, BTW, I'm testing against RHEL 6.2	21:33
zykes-	ayoung: Want me to give you notes ?	21:34
pixelbeat	you can use dnsmasq-utils from my repo on 6.2 but that not going to be supported so the instructions say to set to False there	21:34
jasonb	Frequent annoying problem: when I start nova, it adds my eth0 to br100 and then my machine becomes unreachable via the network. As soon as I do "brctl delif br100 eth0" it's all back reachable from the net again. But, I have a feeling that doing this prevents some bridging from working. Any hints here?	21:34
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ayoung	force_dhcp_release = False	21:34
zykes-	oii, pixelbeat your pkgs worked fine btw	21:34
* jasonb has force_dhcp_release=False set.		21:34
ayoung	pixelbeat, BTW, did you see that EPEL is updating DJango?	21:35
ayoung	For now we can use a Koji one, but epel-testing should have it soonish, request has been submitted	21:35
ayoung	zykes-, did you tewt dashboard?	21:36
ayoung	test	21:36
zykes-	ayoung: yeah, works like a charm!	21:36
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zykes-	ayoung: a note to quantum, you won't be able to use multi host networking with it	21:37
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ayoung	zykes-, BTW, the person to ask the Quantum question to just left. rkukura....	21:37
pixelbeat	ayoung, interesting. I'm in the process of updating dashboard package to install static files correctly on django 1.2	21:37
ayoung	pixelbeat, I wouldn't bother	21:37
pixelbeat	what's timeframe for 1.3 upgrade?	21:37
ayoung	pixelbeat, incipient	21:37
ayoung	IE...we are waiting on automated systems to push it on through	21:38
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pixelbeat	oh. that's daring	21:38
ayoung	you can get the package from http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/Django/1.3.1/1.el6/noarch/Django-1.3.1-1.el6.noarch.rpm	21:38
ayoung	actually, the DJango upstream refuses to support 1.2	21:38
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ayoung	they support the most recent two monir version numbers. and they are at 1.4	21:39
ayoung	1.4 might break some things, but 1.3 should be OK	21:39
ayoung	so mrunge updated....	21:39
ayoung	Tomorrow he is going to kick off a 1.4 build, and I agreed to test that against Dashboard	21:40
pixelbeat	Should be fine for horizon, but I'm not sure for others, anyway...	21:40
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ayoung	Well, the XSRF attack alone is reason to upgrade, IMHO	21:40
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soukihei	is the volume_group parameter in nova.conf referring to the volume group name or the LVM name?	21:48
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mknight88	yay, my curl test in keystone passed :D	21:59
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zykes-	anyone give me a example endpoint for swift?	22:09
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notmyname	zykes-: http://swift.example.com/v1/AUTH_acct/mycontainer/someobject/with/slashes/in/it	22:10
zykes-	notmyname: i meant for use with keystone ;)	22:11
zykes-	can't seem to find that anywhere :/	22:11
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notmyname	I think the person who knows best is giving a talk at the summit as we speak	22:11
zykes-	:p	22:12
zykes-	that's kinda doh	22:12
warik	notmyname: are you going to the SF conference ?	22:12
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notmyname	I'm here	22:12
warik	rad!	22:12
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zykes-	the swift adventure begins	22:15
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zykes-	notmyname: is there a way to implement search for swift?	22:15
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fifieldt	zykes-, you might want to look at http://devstack.org/stack.sh.html and search for "Add swift endpoints to service catalog if swift is enabled"	22:17
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jasonb	If I'm not running nova-compute on my nova-network machine anymore, which machine(s) need br100 configured?	22:21
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mknight88	soukihei, u there?	22:24
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mknight88	im working on glance now and getting error 503 with "glance index"	22:25
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mknight88	anyone have any ideas on the glance 503 error?	22:27
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zykes-	checked logs mknight88 ?	22:28
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zykes-	notmyname: ?	22:29
zykes-	ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: ''	22:29
zykes-	http://swift.openstack.org/howto_installmultinode.html < step 5 of that	22:29
mknight88	zykes-, found "u NOt authorized in logs, checking it out now	22:30
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zykes-	mknight88: probabl that then ;p	22:30
mknight88	zykes-, yep, problem is, i don't understand which user is causing the error	22:30
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mknight88	i think when i do glance index, it is using /home/openrc file	22:31
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mknight88	but i don't know why the openrc file would work for keystone, but not for glance	22:31
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bwong_	ayoung: are you there?	22:38
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mknight88	found my problem, keystone default password is "yourpassword" glance default password is "glance"	22:40
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mknight88	I have a question for anyone, what should the sql connection line in glance-registry.conf say if i am using mysql?	22:47
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jasonb	mknight88: Probably something like mysql://root:rootpw@10.1.2.3/glance	23:01
mknight88	yep, thats it, thanks	23:02
mknight88	the docs don't mention changing it, but when i couldn't add an image, i figured out the doc never has me remove sqlite config	23:02
bwong_	Has anybody here successfully installed it into rhel/centos6.2?	23:03
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sood	hey... we are new to openstack, but were wondering that is it possible to use swift standalone without getting compute and glance..	23:11
zykes-	sood: yeah it is	23:12
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sood	thanks zykes.. so I guess all we need to do is follow the instructions on http://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html to install swift	23:13
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sood	and then use the REST api to start using it	23:13
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sood	additionally .. I was wondering if its possible to use horizon with this to monitor swift..	23:14
sood	as i said still new to openstack so there I am sure I might be missing several concepts	23:14
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chmouel	Sood: there is a session tomorrow about using horizon and swift recon	23:18
sood	oh.. great.. is it a web session.. can u ping me the details.. that will be helpful	23:19
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zykes-	notmyname: ?	23:24
zykes-	chmouel: when will you release lunr ? ;p	23:24
chmouel	zykes-: humm I'm not at all involved with that :)	23:26
chmouel	Sood	23:26
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zykes-	ah, that was chuck ;)	23:26
chmouel	Sood , its a conf at the summit so hopefully we can talk about it and see how we can integrate the two	23:27
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zykes-	chmouel: you good on swift?	23:27
mknight88	wish i was good on nova, can't get it to stop using sqlite	23:28
sood	chmouel: Yeah I think so.. I am still reading about it.. My gut feeling was it can be used by itself but just wanted to be sure.. appreciate the help	23:28
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mknight88	for some reason, my nova.conf file by default has --switches in it, i thought that was removed in essex	23:30
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sood	chmouel: My next logical step was to put horizon on top to see what is going under the hood from UI, but it seems horizon piggy banks on nova	23:30
mknight88	i would think you could install nova-controller and switft, then horizon, but skip glance and nova-compute	23:31
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zykes-	chmouel: you got any example of swift with keystone config ?	23:34
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zykes-	or sood ;p	23:34
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chmouel	zykes-: Yeah, sorry on iPad and at a summit session but send me an email to chmouel@chmouel.com and ill follow up	23:35
sood	zykes : I wish :) but glad got ppl talking about it :P	23:36
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zykes-	sood: well i set everything up like 6 months ago ++	23:37
zykes-	sucks I didn't keep my configs ;p	23:37
notmyname	zykes-: sorry, I'm not trying to ignore you but I'm pretty busy with the openstack summit/conference this week	23:37
zykes-	;p	23:39
zykes-	notmyname: or chmouel can one of you cough up a config example ?	23:39
chmouel	zykes-: You can install a devstack with swift enabled and Grep the configs there	23:40
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chmouel	zykes-: Sorry at the conf as well and not on laptop	23:41
zykes-	;p	23:41
sood	yeah for some reason the devstack install keeps bombing on me.. will give it another shot in a few hours i guess	23:42
mknight88	zykes-, you have a working nova.conf ?	23:43
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zykes-	yeah mknight88	23:43
zykes-	http://paste.pocoo.org/show/583291/	23:44
mknight88	is yours a flagfile version?	23:44
zykes-	nope	23:44
zykes-	I'm on essex	23:44
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mknight88	hmmm, im supposed to be as well, what is your output of nova-manage version list	23:44
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Renich	hey guys? still drinking beer in San Francisco?	23:45
zykes-	2012.1 (2012.1-LOCALBRANCH:LOCALREVISION)	23:46
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zykes-	this is just not funny	23:46
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zykes-	now floating ips work with one tenant, but on a second tenant it doesn't work to ping it's instances, arg	23:47
mknight88	hmm we have the same version, yet mine shipped with a very tiny flagfile	23:47
mknight88	thats interesting issue	23:47
zykes-	oh, nvm	23:47
zykes-	:D	23:47
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zykes-	distro mknight88 ?	23:47
zykes-	i'm on centos	23:47
zykes-	might be a distro thing	23:47
mknight88	hmm touche, im on ubuntu 12.04 daily	23:47
zykes-	hmmm, you COULD try to	23:47
mknight88	not sure, i was under the impression essex removed all flag files	23:48
mknight88	yea, ill back up mine and copy yours	23:48
zykes-	nah	23:48
zykes-	no need	23:48
zykes-	sed 's/^\-\-//g' -i /etc/nova/nova.conf	23:48
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jkyle	when rebooting my vms, they're sticking at "Starting SeaBIOS", what would some potential causes for that be?	23:48
mknight88	0.o	23:48
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mknight88	what does that sed command even do?	23:48
Renich	I need some help with, what I presume, is a diablo keystone openstack-keystone-2011.3.1-3/openstack-swift-1.4.7 installation @ Fedora 16 (from the repos). I think I have it configured but not sure how to test it...	23:49
jkyle	if it begins with a -- replace with a ''	23:49
Renich	so, how to test? can an account create subaccounts on the fly?	23:49
mknight88	crazy	23:50
zykes-	Hmmm, can't you after a vm has been spawned add a sec group to it ?	23:50
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mknight88	zykes-, i think you fixed it!	23:51
mknight88	nope :(	23:52
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aarcane	can I provision and run machines in openstack that have fully read/write root filesystems ?	23:56
mknight88	sure	23:57
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aarcane	mknight88, is there any etra configuration required, or can I just set it up and tell it to run ?	23:59
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