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| Darkarnium | Interestingly enough, if I had the other-config value of "i18n-key" set to anything other than "local-storage" - even if I had sr_matching_filter set in the nova.conf - it would fail to start nova-compute. I've tagged my NFS store with that value and commented the sr_matching_filter and use_local_volume=false in my nova.conf and now the daemon starts without error. | 00:37 |
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| plusk | i'm reading about swift. it's possible to have swift as a cloud storage, and some machine to mount the stored data provided by swift? for e.g. by a protocolo like NFS ? | 00:41 |
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| Spirilis | plusk: short answer, no, swift isn't like that. it would be hideously inefficient if it were possible | 01:33 |
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| plusk | Spirilis, thank you. :) what i'm trying to do is: to have a web server that serve files stored by swift. how can i do this? | 01:56 |
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| Spirilis | plu: I'm not 100% sure, but I think swift can serve it directly? Just like Amazon S3? | 02:16 |
| Spirilis | erp | 02:16 |
| Spirilis | he's not there :) | 02:16 |
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| Keoven | hello.. :) | 06:47 |
| Keoven | what's the difference between the list of images gotten through glance and the list of images gotten through nova. It seems in some cases they tend to be inconsistent with each other with glance sometimes not giving the same amount/set of images... | 06:48 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017379 in nova "Automatically assigned floating IP neither reported as allocated nor assigned in horizon or the CLI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017379 | 08:11 |
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| uksysadmin | hey all, got a problem in our multi-node, pre-prod OpenStack environment... after repeatedly spinning up instances and destroying them - after a while I get NoMoreFloatingIP ERRORs - it doesn't seem to be releasing them. | 08:58 |
| uksysadmin | Anybody in here seen this? | 08:58 |
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| uksysadmin | The fix seems to be recover the environment (sometimes machines get very stuff requiring database intervention) and then deleting the floating ip ranges and re-creating them. | 08:59 |
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| sgran | the problem is that on node deallocation the database isn't being updated to remove the node id from the ip address table | 09:02 |
| sgran | there's a discussion about this going on somewhere | 09:02 |
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| uksysadmin | sgran, do you know where, I'm about to raise a bug report. | 09:03 |
| uksysadmin | just gathering the required evidence | 09:03 |
| uksysadmin | (and really wanted confirmation that this is a known issue and someone can be bugged about it!) | 09:03 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017395 in quantum "V2 network deletion deletes ports and subnets" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017395 | 09:06 |
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| sgran | uksysadmin: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017013 | 09:13 |
| uksysadmin | cheers - I was about to say that isn't my error, I'll check through my logs | 09:14 |
| uksysadmin | the issues is the floating range, not fixed | 09:14 |
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| uksysadmin | (I did see something along this line though in my logs - but not as reported) | 09:15 |
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| koolhead11 | hi all | 09:52 |
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| uksysadmin | hey koolhead11 | 10:03 |
| koolhead11 | uksysadmin: hello there | 10:04 |
| koolhead11 | Ryan_Lane: hi | 10:04 |
| Ryan_Lane | koolhead11: howdy | 10:04 |
| koolhead11 | Ryan_Lane: good good. Are you in some other timezone these days :) | 10:05 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm in Berlin till the end of the month | 10:05 |
| koolhead11 | ooh cool | 10:06 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017418 in nova "NoMoreFloatingIps: Zero floating ips available after repeatedly creating and destroying instances over time" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017418 | 10:11 |
| nRy | what is better for a service provider trying to build a very custom cloud? OpenStack or CloudStack? | 10:11 |
| zykes- | nRy: I think openstack | 10:12 |
| nRy | why? | 10:12 |
| zykes- | but I guess that's opinionated | 10:12 |
| uksysadmin | nRy, ask the same q in #cloudstack | 10:12 |
| nRy | trying to make a choice between the different options | 10:12 |
| uksysadmin | they'll want to say OpenStack too ;-) | 10:12 |
| nRy | we are doing a lot with special VM's with high-end graphics | 10:12 |
| zykes- | why uksysadmin ? | 10:12 |
| nRy | and GPU's | 10:12 |
| koolhead11 | nRy: sounds spicy | 10:13 |
| koolhead11 | :) | 10:13 |
| nRy | so I am guessing that OpenStack is more open to customizing? | 10:13 |
| uksysadmin | zykes-, joking... surely its highly opinionated whichever channel you're in | 10:13 |
| zykes- | nRy: for a start, they call it opensource, though take a look at the committers list on github for cloudstack vs openstack projects not a big diversion of companies contra citrix I think | 10:13 |
| zykes- | s/contra/except | 10:13 |
| nRy | isn't CloudStack just based on OpenStack? | 10:13 |
| nRy | interesting zykes | 10:14 |
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| zykes- | nRy: no | 10:14 |
| nRy | what I do not understand is why Citrix paid like $600 for CloudStack when they could have built their own solution based on OpenStack | 10:14 |
| nRy | oh, so it is different? | 10:15 |
| nRy | I always thought that cloud.com and therefore cloudstack where based on OpenStack | 10:15 |
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| zykes- | it's a code base run by citrix by the looks, they bought cloud.com earlier to get a fast entry into the cloud market | 10:15 |
| nRy | yes last year for a LOT of money | 10:15 |
| zykes- | nRy: not even close in my opinion | 10:15 |
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| nRy | that is why I am wondering why they paid so much | 10:15 |
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| nRy | what is your opinion zykes? I am just curious of the history | 10:16 |
| zykes- | not much opinions, I run with openstack :) | 10:16 |
| zykes- | another funny thing, amount of people in #openstack vs #cloudstack | 10:17 |
| nRy | what is the ratio? | 10:17 |
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| uksysadmin | My take on OpenStack vs CloudStack: CloudStack is ready now, OpenStack is *nearly* there, but has a better future in terms of support, functionality, etc. | 10:18 |
| zykes- | not sure of ratio but more people here | 10:18 |
| nRy | cool | 10:18 |
| zykes- | uksysadmin: OS not ready because ? | 10:18 |
| uksysadmin | zykes-, still buggy | 10:18 |
| nRy | that is great info to help me make my decision | 10:18 |
| zykes- | uksysadmin: a bit yeah | 10:19 |
| zykes- | but Folsom I think will be better | 10:19 |
| zykes- | it's kinda a iterative curve with openstack | 10:19 |
| uksysadmin | and 3rd parties are still finding their feet with it | 10:19 |
| nRy | but there are full implentations of companies using OpenStack to run their clouds right? | 10:19 |
| nRy | that have been in production for a while now? | 10:19 |
| zykes- | for each time they introduce a new project or split a project new stuff happens :p | 10:19 |
| zykes- | nRy: HP / RS | 10:19 |
| uksysadmin | zykes-, when running with Cactus, was told Diablo was the one. When running Diablo was told Essex was the one. When running Essex... Folsom's the one... so "nearly" there. | 10:19 |
| uksysadmin | big users of OpenStack are the ones that have developers close to the code/have cash injected into OpenStack | 10:20 |
| zykes- | uksysadmin: yeah, though Essex was "the most" stable on up until now | 10:20 |
| uksysadmin | zykes-, agree - "most stable" doesn't cut it with an executive board | 10:20 |
| nRy | but is Cloudstack anymore stable? | 10:21 |
| uksysadmin | btw - I'm an OpenStack user and supporter, reporter of bugs and author. my money is on OpenStack - just have to accept the fact that launchpad is your friend. | 10:21 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: Have you been using Ubuntu Precise packages? | 10:22 |
| nRy | and what do you guys think of Apache taking over CloudStack? | 10:22 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, yes - we've just had your guys in the other week doing JumpStart for us. | 10:22 |
| nRy | is OpenStack developed all on launchpad? | 10:23 |
| nRy | darn, I was just getting used to GitHub | 10:23 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: All going well? | 10:23 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, so so | 10:23 |
| uksysadmin | is it stable? no. | 10:23 |
| ijw | nRy: it's all on github. | 10:23 |
| ijw | launchpad for bugs, questions, blueprints | 10:23 |
| ijw | github for the code. | 10:23 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, we had some issues with a kernel bug affecting our network adapter. | 10:23 |
| Daviey | nRy: github stores the code, launchpad stores the bugs and spec's.. gerrit handles the cod ereview | 10:23 |
| nRy | ah ok, cool | 10:23 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, we had issues with cobbler and grub | 10:23 |
| zynzel | uksysadmin: kernel panic on bridge code? ;) | 10:23 |
| nRy | so anyone know anything about GPU integration with OpenStack? | 10:24 |
| nRy | last I checked there was not really any | 10:24 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: Oh? I'm surprised this wasn't escalated to me.. What problems did you have? | 10:24 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, and now I've issues where I run out of floating ips when I continually spin up 30 machines, destroy them, repeat. | 10:24 |
| koolhead11 | nRy: your free to try whichever you like and suits your need | 10:24 |
| zynzel | nRy: sugestion to look hypervisor with gpu support. ;) | 10:24 |
| nRy | but out cloud, which is controlled mostly manually right now is all based on GPU for GPGPU and cloud VDI for graphics | 10:24 |
| zynzel | this is not openstack task to support gpu, cpu and other :) | 10:24 |
| nRy | ok I see | 10:25 |
| uksysadmin | zynzel, not so much kernel panic - the OS just won't play ball with the network when bridging is used. no packets traverse the bridged interface. | 10:25 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: There was a bug where released ip's were not put back into the queue fast enough. | 10:25 |
| nRy | does CloudStack support VirtualBox? | 10:25 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, could be my issue - I have to delete the floating up range and create it again | 10:25 |
| ijw | zynzel: technically it is, in the sense that you want the scheduling to work with it. But I believe the scheduler can be set up to filter for GPGPU hosts. | 10:25 |
| uksysadmin | just raised a support case with you and raised the public bug on launchpad (last one to appear in this channel a few lines up) | 10:25 |
| nRy | I like some features of Virtualbox that believe it or not none of the other hyper-visors have | 10:25 |
| zynzel | ijw: exactly, scheduler code is simply | 10:25 |
| zynzel | so additional futures are not a big problem | 10:26 |
| uksysadmin | only discovered this last week when I was stress testing the environment | 10:26 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, the bigger pressure from me is the fact RightScale can't commit to resource to plugging in their service to an on-premise cloud running OpenStack Essex | 10:26 |
| uksysadmin | s/from me/for me/ | 10:27 |
| zynzel | umum, we have working automatic powerdns setup for openstack ;) | 10:27 |
| nRy | is there a list of all the supported Openstack hypervisors? | 10:27 |
| zynzel | nRy: http://wiki.openstack.org/HypervisorSupportMatrix | 10:28 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: Yeah, it's kinda odd that... Rightscale were quite fast to implement support for Eucalyptus | 10:28 |
| zynzel | but dont know how actual it is. | 10:28 |
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| uksysadmin | Daviey, yeah - think they have bigger fish to fry in that Rackspace are fast to moving to OpenStack (so that's variation 1 of an OpenStack endpoint), HP Cloud use a hybrid Diablo/Essex and then there's the little guys who use OpenStack Essex as we know what it is... | 10:29 |
| koolhead11 | Isn`t Rightscale was one of the 1st compaines to open its support for Openstack | 10:29 |
| koolhead11 | ttx: hi there | 10:29 |
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| uksysadmin | they have it working for Diablo - so a pre-keystone world | 10:29 |
| uksysadmin | they have to do some monkeying around to get it working with essex | 10:30 |
| koolhead11 | ooh okey | 10:30 |
| uksysadmin | but they're a business and there are more users in the public space than people looking at OpenStack + RightScale | 10:30 |
| uksysadmin | so they're putting resource on the public space which isn't what an on-premise cloud looks like | 10:30 |
| uksysadmin | upshot? buggy cloud software + no support for orchestration that we're currently using = pressure to find a solution /whatever that may be/ | 10:31 |
| uksysadmin | of course - I've seen amazing things from the community fixing issues - so the first part should be alleviated... ;-) | 10:31 |
| nRy | zynzel: I guess that is a no? | 10:32 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, when things get fixed into the stable branch of OpenStack upstream - when do we see that in Ubuntu? | 10:32 |
| zynzel | nRy: ? | 10:32 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: it's in the ubuntu -proposed archive at the moment, it will take extended validation.. then will show soon. | 10:33 |
| nRy | the question was if OpenStack can work with Virtualbox as a hypervisor? | 10:33 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: If you are willing to test the -proposed packages, i'd be super happy.. but I'm not expecting too many production clouds to try that. | 10:33 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, I'm willing to give proposed a go - we're pre-prod (as per jumpstart) so got lots of time and focus on raising issues ahead of when we want to do some real work on it | 10:33 |
| Daviey | The Canonical internal hybrid cloud will ugrade to it shortly. | 10:34 |
| koolhead11 | nRy: i don`t think there is anything such as virtualbox as hypervisror | 10:34 |
| zynzel | nRy: i guess no | 10:34 |
| nRy | koolhead11: what do you mean? It is a hypervisor just as much as XenServer is | 10:34 |
| nRy | VirtualBox is used by many large corporations and is much more than just the frontend GUI based product | 10:35 |
| koolhead11 | nRy: well i need to need/read about virtualbox hypervisor then | 10:35 |
| nRy | hmm, ok | 10:35 |
| nRy | thanks | 10:35 |
| Daviey | Yeah, but the API is apparently not as strong as other supervisors | 10:36 |
| Daviey | herr, hypervisors. | 10:36 |
| koolhead11 | Daviey: *Supervisors was it auto suggestion :P | 10:37 |
| nRy | but there is no CloudStack integration with the VirtualBox API then? | 10:38 |
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| uksysadmin | nRy, is VirtualBox used by large corporations? It's a desktop product. | 10:41 |
| uksysadmin | nRy, I use it every day - but wouldn't expect it to live beyond my laptop | 10:42 |
| nRy | uksysadmin: yes it is used by large corporations to run 15,000+ person setups | 10:45 |
| nRy | it can be much more than just a desktop product | 10:45 |
| nRy | and there are some API's that work very well with it | 10:45 |
| uksysadmin | nRy, wow... amazing. There was support for vbox under OpenStack but nobody could think of a use case for it so was dropped (last time I checked) | 10:45 |
| nRy | hmm, that is a bummer | 10:46 |
| nRy | I certainly could use it! :-) | 10:46 |
| nRy | I have a very good use case | 10:46 |
| nRy | for OpenGL and sharing a GPU across multiple VM's | 10:46 |
| uksysadmin | nRy, good thing about this open source development... ;-) | 10:46 |
| nRy | using VirtualBox and VirtualGL together | 10:46 |
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| nRy | VirtualGL used to be developed by SUN so naturally it works very well with Vbox | 10:47 |
| ijw | nRy: for compute rather than desktop virtualisation? | 10:47 |
| koolhead11 | nRy: mailinglist is your friend is all questions are not answered here :) | 10:47 |
| nRy | for VDI | 10:47 |
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| ijw | VDI's a slightly different use case to cloud, though. | 10:48 |
| nRy | I don't see it as being different | 10:48 |
| nRy | a true cloud must include everything a user needs on an everyday basis | 10:48 |
| nRy | and that includes a desktop | 10:48 |
| nRy | soon, VDI will be fully integrated into the cloud technologies | 10:49 |
| nRy | and in 5 years or so I do not see anyone buying a desktop computer, but instead rather just getting a new cloud desktop upgrade | 10:49 |
| nRy | ijw: so how does VDI not fit into the cloud use case | 10:50 |
| ijw | Yes, that's the thin appliance dream and people have been having it for 15 years. | 10:50 |
| ijw | I think it depends on your definition of cloud. | 10:50 |
| nRy | yes and the part that was missing was a virtualized GPU | 10:50 |
| ijw | No, not really. VNC's remote desktop protocol predates GPUs. | 10:51 |
| ijw | Back that far, I think what was missing was the ability to make a thin client that was significantly cheaper than a desktop. | 10:51 |
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| Leander_ | hello all | 10:55 |
| Leander_ | i'm stuck trying to run the test with nova | 10:55 |
| Leander_ | the creation of the virtual_env fails with: src/lxml/etree_defs.h:9:31: fatal error: libxml/xmlversion.h: No such file or directory | 10:55 |
| nRy | ijw: 15 years? there was not hardly an internet then | 10:56 |
| Leander_ | i'm running ubuntu 12.04, any ideas on how to solve this? | 10:56 |
| nRy | how could there have been cloud based virtual desktops then? | 10:56 |
| ijw | nRy: you see, now you're just trash talking ;) | 10:56 |
| ijw | VNC was invented at Cambridge and was certainly in active use in 1992. | 10:56 |
| ijw | I know, because I used to work with it. | 10:56 |
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| koolhead11 | Leander_: whats the issue | 10:57 |
| Leander_ | koolhead11: i execute ./run_tests.sh -f | 10:58 |
| ijw | It wasn't used for 'let's put all our desktops into the DC' at the time, and not for quite a while afterward. For that you'd want to look up the dates of Sun's and Oracle's thin client production, which didn't take off signficantly. | 10:58 |
| nRy | yes but was there really enough bandwidth then to have true VDI? | 10:58 |
| koolhead11 | Leander_: are you using devstack | 10:58 |
| nRy | but I think the key part that was missing was a virtual GPU | 10:58 |
| nRy | which did not exist until now | 10:58 |
| Leander_ | koolhead11: no, i'm using the nova repositories | 10:59 |
| Leander_ | directly | 10:59 |
| nRy | ijw: or maybe I should say virtualized GPU | 10:59 |
| ijw | You should. | 10:59 |
| nRy | that is the key :-) | 10:59 |
| koolhead11 | Leander_: i execute ./run_tests.sh -f where/how | 11:00 |
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| ijw | And I don't agree, but that's because if you're working in-memory with a virtual display and since you're usually virtualising desktops then it's really the prevalence of streaming video and decent rendering that makes the difference. You didn't need a GPU to run MS Office. But this is all very much a side-track from what this channel's actually about... | 11:01 |
| Leander_ | koolhead11: i shall try it like that | 11:02 |
| nRy | ijw: yes there are the non graphical users and the ones who do requires hardware graphics acceleration | 11:03 |
| nRy | yes, I agree this is getting sidetracked :-) | 11:03 |
| nRy | was related to the channel many lines ago | 11:03 |
| nRy | good discussion though | 11:04 |
| koolhead11 | Leander_: any specific guide you are following | 11:08 |
| Leander_ | koolhead11: nova's developer documentation | 11:08 |
| koolhead11 | Leander_: docs.openstack.org is right place for installing openstack | 11:09 |
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| Leander_ | koolhead11: yes, i'm well aware of that, however i want to contribute a piece of code and i can't get the tests running, that's my problem | 11:10 |
| Leander_ | :) | 11:10 |
| koolhead11 | Leander_: ooh okey | 11:11 |
| * koolhead11 points Leander_ openstack-dev | 11:11 | |
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| Leander_ | koolhead11: what does this line mean 'koolhead11 points Leander_ openstack-dev' | 11:12 |
| ijw | nRy: the distinction seems to be between VMs that you run one-per-user and keep up indefinitely (VMWare's historical use case, plus all the $15-a-month VM resellers) versus many VMs per app which you start and stop in response to varying load (e.g. Amazon AWS). In my opinion OpenStack is very much at the AWS end of things, but you're absolutely welcome to hold a contradicting one. | 11:12 |
| ijw | Leander_: #openstack-dev channel is probably useful to you. | 11:12 |
| koolhead11 | Leander_: there is one more channel #opnstack-dev that will help | 11:12 |
| Leander_ | koolhead11: ah ok | 11:13 |
| Leander_ | thx for the tip! | 11:13 |
| koolhead11 | Leander_: np :D | 11:13 |
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| zykes- | ijw: openstack aws what ? | 11:44 |
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| ijw | zykes-: would you like to rephrase that as a question? ;) | 11:45 |
| zykes- | 13:05 < ijw> nRy: the distinction seems to be between VMs that you run one-per-user and keep up indefinitely (VMWare's historical use case, plus all the $15-a-month VM resellers) versus many VMs per app which you start and stop in | 11:45 |
| nRy | still does not look like a question :-) | 11:46 |
| zykes- | what did you mean by the last part? | 11:47 |
| zykes- | In my opinion OpenStack is very much at the AWS end of things, but you're absolutely welcome to hold a contradicting one. | 11:47 |
| ijw | That I see OpenStack as built to provide you with VMs on demand. More when you want them, fewer when you want them, the same as Amazon does. | 11:53 |
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| zykes- | ah | 11:54 |
| ijw | nRy's desktop in the cloud case needs VMs that live forever (because they aren't redundant) and where the number doesn't change (one per user, all the time). | 11:54 |
| ijw | (Which, for instance, you would never dream of doing on AWS.) | 11:55 |
| zykes- | wasn't the OS summit in San Francisco the last time as well ? | 11:57 |
| zykes- | ah, boston | 11:57 |
| ijw | Um, SF last time. SD this time. | 11:57 |
| zykes- | ah ok | 11:58 |
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| zykes- | any news on hotel prices? | 11:58 |
| ijw | I've not looked yet. | 11:58 |
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| nRy | ijw: I do not think that is correct | 12:02 |
| nRy | they can simply be turned on and off during login | 12:02 |
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| nRy | and also with linux desktops, they are multi-user to begin with so you do not absolutely need 1 vm per user | 12:03 |
| nRy | linux is built for this, whereas Windows OS needs Active Directory and all kinds of stuff | 12:03 |
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| Syrupsystem | Hi, having trouble with networking in openstack. Some instances got IPs, some don't.... Idk why, and I can't ping or access these instances with ssh. | 12:08 |
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| afterglow | if you are using a hardware gateway how do you stop nova trying to bind the IP on the network node? | 13:15 |
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| salv-orlando | afterglow: you mean telling nova to not manage IPs any more let your GW do that. If I got it right, from what I know openstack does not have such facility at the moment. | 13:21 |
| afterglow | I don't mind openstack managing the IPs I just don't want it to bind the gateway IP on the nova-network host | 13:22 |
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| betteradmin | hi guys. My boot from volume not working. instance stuck at start (boot from hard disk ....) please help me in that. | 13:25 |
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| souza | Hello guys! | 13:29 |
| johngarbutt | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/existing-ha-networking-options.html says you can config dnsmasq with an external gateway | 13:32 |
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| salv-orlando | afterglow: the doc linked by John will then allow you to do so, unless you're running VLAN mode or Quantum | 13:37 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017494 in swift "Swift-init doesn't indicate permissions issues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017494 | 13:41 |
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| etnt | installing a compute node, I guess it is enough to point keystone to the cloud controller running the mysql server? | 13:48 |
| etnt | or do I need to run mysql on all compute nodes too ? | 13:49 |
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| afterglow | etnt: you do not need to run mysql on all compute servers | 13:49 |
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| etnt | afterglow: thx! | 13:50 |
| agonella | Has Anyone a architectural overview of openstack? I was able to find only this one: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/conceptual-architecture.html. Are there more? | 13:55 |
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| koolhead11 | agonella: looks good/prefect/fine | 13:55 |
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| betteradmin | hi guys. My boot from volume not working. instance stuck at start (boot from hard disk ....) | 14:01 |
| betteradmin | ?? | 14:01 |
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| tightwork | If I have nova-volume using glance and swift as a backing store what is the operation of the actual instance image? Is it created and ran in swift or is it transfered to the node? | 14:11 |
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| realnorth | anyone know how to debug horizon-dashboard | 14:40 |
| realnorth | I put the debug flag to True in local_settings | 14:40 |
| realnorth | but not sure how to restart the task nor where the logs are stored | 14:41 |
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| realnorth | I get an internal server error when I log in | 14:42 |
| realnorth | and can't find a single log with an actual error in it | 14:42 |
| koolhead11 | realnorth: restart apache2 | 14:43 |
| koolhead11 | service apache2 restart | 14:43 |
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| realnorth | beautiful | 14:43 |
| realnorth | thanks | 14:43 |
| cheez0r | anyone working with juju + openstack and have a minute? | 14:43 |
| realnorth | can't believe it was so simple | 14:43 |
| koolhead11 | realnorth: :P | 14:43 |
| koolhead11 | realnorth: you should have checked the documentation :D | 14:43 |
| koolhead11 | cheez0r: shoot, someone might help | 14:44 |
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| realnorth | yeah for some reason in my head I didn't link restarting dashboard with apache2 idk why it makes sense brain fart | 14:44 |
| cheez0r | I'm struggling with keystone; I'm trying to access it but getting mysql errors- "An unexpected error prevented the server from fulfilling your request." "Access denied for user 'keystone'@'192.168.1.102' (using password: YES)") | 14:45 |
| dolphm_ | cheez0r: can you connect to mysql with those settings? | 14:45 |
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| cheez0r | I looked at the mysql node, the keystone user exists, has grant usage on *.* to 'keystone'@'%' | 14:45 |
| sgran | you are missing a mysql grant | 14:45 |
| cheez0r | dolphm_: I can't figure out where it's storing the keystone mysql password on the keystone node | 14:45 |
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| dolphm_ | cheez0r: can you connect to mysql with those credentials yourself? | 14:49 |
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| cheez0r | dolphm_: I don't know, because I can't find the credentials to try with. | 14:50 |
| cheez0r | ok I did find where the password is stored on the mysql node, and no I can't log in. | 14:51 |
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| tightwork | I created a 60G windwows, image and uploaded it to swift backed glance. It works but takes a very long time to deploy. I imagine that is because I am transferring 60G over 1Gbit lan. (I also had to create a new flavor to accomodate the size) what is the operation here? Do all instances get transfered locally from glance? | 14:53 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017543 in openstack-manuals "Docs for reboot are incomplete" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017543 | 15:06 |
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| koolhead11 | tightwork: is too big IMHO | 15:06 |
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| tightwork | koolhead11: yeah it should be smaller but windows is annoying and wants to dump everything into C, win2k8. I just made it as rule of thumb. It would be interesting to try a larger flavor than the original windows image | 15:08 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017554 in keystone "Provision certificates for Keystone install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017554 | 15:20 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017562 in nova "vm_vdi_cleaner.py calls vmops._destroy with unknown shutdown kwarg" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017562 | 15:46 |
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| awaterma | Where would I go to download the Essex release? Or would I need to pull source at a tag? | 15:57 |
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| matiu | awaterma, it should be on openstack.com I think | 16:06 |
| matiu | awaterma, or maybe look at http://github.com/openstack/nova | 16:06 |
| matiu | and choose the essex trunk | 16:06 |
| matiu | anyone super familiar with swift ? | 16:07 |
| awaterma | Thanks, I'll check the github site. | 16:07 |
| awaterma | The main page is quite confusing, no dl links: http://www.openstack.org/software/essex/ | 16:07 |
| matiu | aw sad | 16:07 |
| matiu | awaterma, and check out http://github.com/openstack | 16:08 |
| matiu | to see all the other components | 16:08 |
| awaterma | Very cool, many thanks for the help out. | 16:08 |
| matiu | nova is the main one I think | 16:08 |
| matiu | no worries :) | 16:08 |
| matiu | So .. anyone know about swift ? | 16:08 |
| matiu | I want to use it for logging... | 16:08 |
| matiu | rather than storing text files, storing small one line log entries | 16:09 |
| matiu | woul | 16:09 |
| matiu | would this idea be good or crazy ? | 16:09 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017572 in nova "rootwrap iptables-save broken in recent build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017572 | 16:11 |
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| mnaser | annegentle: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/terminology-storage.html under "block storage" > "Relatd concepts" :) | 16:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017585 in nova "test_KillFilter fails on Fedora 17" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017585 | 16:36 |
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| realnorth | hey guys | 16:47 |
| realnorth | I have an issue deleting an instance | 16:47 |
| realnorth | its just hanging there | 16:47 |
| realnorth | deleting | 16:47 |
| realnorth | I've tried switching the vm_state to active | 16:47 |
| realnorth | I've tried changing the task_state to something else | 16:48 |
| realnorth | and then delete | 16:48 |
| realnorth | didn't work | 16:48 |
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| realnorth | tried flipping the deleted tag and it wouldn't work | 16:48 |
| realnorth | well it removed it from the list but it was still trying to delete it | 16:48 |
| realnorth | nova delete doesn't do anything | 16:49 |
| Jake___ | I've had that before. The only solution that worked was to manually remove rows from the tables in the nova database & delete the instance dir from /var/lib/nova/instances | 16:50 |
| Jake___ | ymmv | 16:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017593 in nova "avoid use of libvirt reset() for hard reboot" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017593 | 16:56 |
| realnorth | yeah I had removed a network connection | 16:56 |
| realnorth | and it wasn't liking that | 16:56 |
| realnorth | so I had to add the connection back set it to the old id and it then finally went away | 16:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017600 in horizon "duplicate left name and header on images page." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017600 | 17:05 |
| notmyname | matiu: I cna help with swift | 17:05 |
| notmyname | matiu: your use case is somewhat interesting. I'd love to talk to you more about it | 17:08 |
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| matiu | notmyname, yeah, I don't think it'd be the best fit | 17:12 |
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| matiu | I was thinking maybe with a small chunk size | 17:12 |
| notmyname | matiu: How many log lines per second are you planning to write? | 17:13 |
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| matiu | are the chunksizes in the config file in bytes ? or KBs ? | 17:13 |
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| matiu | no | 17:13 |
| matiu | notmyname, not too many, I was gonna log nova api calls | 17:13 |
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| matiu | I think we do about 200-800 a second | 17:13 |
| matiu | or maybe that's per minut | 17:14 |
| matiu | I think per minute :) | 17:14 |
| matiu | and not gonna log all of those | 17:14 |
| matiu | only ones that change the state of an instance | 17:14 |
| matiu | the way I got to swift was, I was thinking about storing them in text files, then thinking of putting the text files in swift | 17:15 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017602 in horizon "instance launch page not selecting dropdown for image" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017602 | 17:16 |
| notmyname | matiu: on the phone, give me a minute, please | 17:16 |
| matiu | then thought why not put each entry in as a swift object | 17:16 |
| matiu | no worries | 17:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017606 in horizon "References to 'Project' are confusing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017606 | 17:21 |
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| dieterdemeyer | [D[D[D[D[C[C[C[D[C[D[C[D[C[D[C[C[D | 17:30 |
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| notmyname | matiu: back | 17:35 |
| notmyname | matiu: thanks for being patient | 17:35 |
| matiu | no worries, I have plenty to fill in the time :) | 17:35 |
| notmyname | matiu: you said you won't be using swift for that workload now. why not? I think it could work pretty well | 17:35 |
| notze_ | can i set up swift with only 1 server as well? | 17:36 |
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| notze_ | so that it's proxy and storage node on the same machine? | 17:36 |
| matiu | notmyname, well at the moment I'm just going to go with mysql logging and maybe some mysql partitioning | 17:36 |
| matiu | I would like to document the possibilty of swift though | 17:37 |
| matiu | should mysql proove sucky | 17:37 |
| notze_ | or 2 servers -> 2 storage nodes and proxys in the same | 17:37 |
| matiu | which it probably will | 17:37 |
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| matiu | The main reason for not using swift would be I want to make as little change as possible to existing archetecture, and though we do have a swift install | 17:38 |
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| matiu | it's currently set up more for glance and large files, in fact we're looking at upping the chunk size | 17:38 |
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| notmyname | matiu: I've seen swift used(quite successfully) as a long-term store for logs. hourly log files stored locally uploaded to swift in a sanely named manner | 17:38 |
| matiu | but I think with logging a lot of small single lines, you'd want a tiny chunk size, like 100 bytes or something | 17:39 |
| notmyname | matiu: small files aren't a problem | 17:39 |
| matiu | notmyname, ah but then, I'd like to have realtime reporting off of the logs | 17:39 |
| notmyname | matiu: and you could then add the manifest files to "group" them for later retrieval in larger chunks | 17:39 |
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| matiu | a nova admin api call, to get the logs for server instance 1234 for example | 17:40 |
| matiu | notmyname, what do you think of the possibility of setting the chunksize to 100 bytes | 17:40 |
| notmyname | matiu: ah, well I don't think swift would be good for real-time stuff. the eventually consistent nature of the system (in the case of hardware failures) could make it tricky to work well. | 17:40 |
| notmyname | matiu: what do you mean by "chunksize"? | 17:40 |
| matiu | and storing each log entry as a separate swift object | 17:41 |
| matiu | the swift disk chunk size | 17:41 |
| matiu | (in the config file documentation) | 17:41 |
| betteradmin | My boot from volume instance sutck at bios (booting from hard disk...) any help?? | 17:41 |
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| notmyname | matiu: what config option are you referring to? | 17:41 |
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| notmyname | matiu: from the client perspective, there is no such think as a "chunk size" | 17:42 |
| matiu | notmyname, yeah, http://swift.openstack.org/deployment_guide.html#object-server-configuration - disk_chunk_size | 17:42 |
| notmyname | matiu: each object is a logical, atomic thing | 17:42 |
| matiu | do you know if that setting is in bytes or KBs ? | 17:42 |
| notmyname | matiu: ah. that doesn't affect how it's stored. but it can certainly be adjusted depending on the workload. it's in bytes | 17:43 |
| matiu | yeah, swift for real time logging and restoring was a crazy idea | 17:43 |
| matiu | but for archiving of logs it'd be great | 17:43 |
| notmyname | matiu: that config variable is not how data is split up (it isn't split up). think of it like the TCP window, but for the drive | 17:43 |
| matiu | the trick would just be figuring out a quick lookup method | 17:43 |
| matiu | ah, like how many bytes to write in one go ? | 17:44 |
| notmyname | ya | 17:44 |
| matiu | thanks notmyname - I am now more educated :) | 17:44 |
| notmyname | matiu: I'm hear to help :-) | 17:44 |
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| matiu | So I'm thinking of a possibility now, where there's a buffer logging daemon using text files | 17:45 |
| matiu | and every hour or so, it'd download the logs for some instance uuid from swift | 17:45 |
| matiu | and update it, and upload it again | 17:46 |
| matiu | that could work | 17:46 |
| notmyname | matiu: that is a very good way to do it | 17:46 |
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| matiu | then if someone requested the logs, it could do a swift call, then add any it had in its buffer | 17:46 |
| matiu | I'll go with the plain old DB for now, but I'll document the swift idea | 17:46 |
| notmyname | matiu: you might want to take a look at http://github.com/notmyname/slogging too. it's designed to manage swift log data stored in swift itself | 17:48 |
| matiu | looking | 17:48 |
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| matiu | notmyname, you're that guy that stayed up late to give a webinar thing | 17:51 |
| matiu | at the sy | 17:51 |
| matiu | sydney openstack | 17:51 |
| matiu | meeting ? | 17:51 |
| notmyname | matiu: oh yeah. I've done one for syndey and one for melbourne | 17:51 |
| matiu | haha, you looked really tired | 17:51 |
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| matiu | but we appreciated it | 17:51 |
| notmyname | matiu: it was 2am for me :-) | 17:52 |
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| matiu | we have the Brisbane meeting tomorrow | 17:52 |
| matiu | but it's just a pub meeting as it's the first one in the city | 17:52 |
| matiu | just to see who's interested in future meetups | 17:52 |
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| notmyname | cool | 17:52 |
| matiu | it's like 3 am for me now :) | 17:53 |
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| matiu | So I know how you feel | 17:54 |
| matiu | felt | 17:54 |
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| fm255005 | I'm getting this error message when I try to verify if glance is install via the documentation | 18:20 |
| fm255005 | glance --os_username=adminUser --os_password=secretword --os_tenant=openstackDemo --os_auth_url=http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0 add name="tty-linux-kernel" disk_format=aki container_format=aki < ttylinux-uec-amd64-12.1_2.6.35-22_1-vmlinuz | 18:20 |
| fm255005 | thats the command im running | 18:20 |
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| fm255005 | and im getting "The request returned 500 Internal Server Error" | 18:20 |
| fm255005 | http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/images-verifying-install.html | 18:21 |
| fm255005 | im using this documentation | 18:21 |
| thefoot | Is your adminUser and password set correctly in the ini files? | 18:21 |
| fm255005 | let me check again | 18:21 |
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| fm255005 | i changed the name for adminUser but that shouldnt be an issue right? | 18:22 |
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| trued0x | When I perform a "nova-manage db sync" I'm getting the following error: "2012-06-24 11:11:17 DEBUG nova.utils [-] backend <module 'nova.db.sqlalchemy.migration' from '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/db/sqlalchemy/migration.pyc'> from (pid=2907) __get_backend /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/utils.py:658" | 18:23 |
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| fm255005 | are you running "nova-manage db_sync" or "nova_manage db sync"? | 18:27 |
| trued0x | nova-manage db sync | 18:27 |
| zynzel | trued0x: and where you have any error? | 18:27 |
| zynzel | i dont see any. :) | 18:27 |
| trued0x | zynzel: so i shouldn't be worried about DEBUG errors? | 18:28 |
| zynzel | trued0x: DEBUG != error. | 18:28 |
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| trued0x | zynzel: fair enough. i ask because when I run nova-manage service list the DEBUG message comes up again and I don't see the proper response to verify all the nova services are running | 18:29 |
| zynzel | you should see DEBUG+service list. | 18:30 |
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| trued0x | zynzel: yes I should see this right? http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/compute-verifying-install.html | 18:31 |
| trued0x | zynzel: except i don't see the list of services running | 18:32 |
| betteradmin | Please help me. My boot from volume instance stcuk at bios saying boot from hard disk. any sugestion ?? | 18:33 |
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| trued0x | zynzel: http://paste.openstack.org/show/18768/ | 18:33 |
| zynzel | trued0x: and services are running? | 18:34 |
| zynzel | trued0x: ps aux|grep nova-compute | 18:34 |
| zynzel | trued0x: nova-manage query only db nothing else | 18:34 |
| trued0x | root 3954 0.0 0.0 9376 940 pts/3 S+ 11:34 0:00 grep --color=auto nova-compute | 18:34 |
| zynzel | betteradmin: dont use volumes to boot instances, sorry. | 18:34 |
| zynzel | trued0x: so service is not in db, because it is not running ;) | 18:34 |
| trued0x | zynzel: so how do i fix that. i'm not sure i understand what you're saying | 18:35 |
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| zynzel | trued0x: tail -20 /var/log/syslog | 18:35 |
| betteradmin | zynzel:any reason it will help me undestand :) | 18:35 |
| zynzel | probably see smth like: nova-compute: terminated with signal 1 | 18:36 |
| trued0x | yes sir. nova-cert main process (3879) terminated with status 1 | 18:36 |
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| zynzel | trued0x: ls -la /etc/nova | 18:36 |
| zynzel | betteradmin: and on volume you have installed os? | 18:37 |
| trued0x | http://paste.openstack.org/show/18769/ | 18:37 |
| zynzel | trued0x: chown nova:nova /etc/nova -R | 18:38 |
| zynzel | and start service | 18:38 |
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| betteradmin | zynzel:centos 6.2 & cirros-0.3.0 | 18:38 |
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| betteradmin | both tried but no luck | 18:39 |
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| trued0x | http://paste.openstack.org/show/18770/ | 18:40 |
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| zynzel | betteradmin: no idea, in your place i would check partition on volume (maybe grub?) | 18:41 |
| zynzel | trued0x: try to start service 'from hand', what distro? | 18:42 |
| zynzel | ubuntu? | 18:42 |
| trued0x | ubuntu 12.04 | 18:43 |
| trued0x | from hand meaning /etc/init.d/nova-compute start | 18:43 |
| zynzel | nope | 18:43 |
| zynzel | cat /etc/init/nova-compute | 18:43 |
| betteradmin | zynzel : ok i used this steps http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/boot-from-volume.html | 18:43 |
| zynzel | and you have line like: exec su .... | 18:43 |
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| trued0x | hmmm long output of errors. hold on | 18:46 |
| trued0x | http://paste.openstack.org/show/18771/ | 18:47 |
| trued0x | so it looks like i didnt properly populate my nova db in mysql? | 18:47 |
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| zynzel | yes | 18:48 |
| zynzel | try mysql -u nova -p nova | 18:49 |
| zynzel | and enter nova password | 18:49 |
| zynzel | check if you have any tables. | 18:49 |
| trued0x | well there are tables inside the nova db | 18:49 |
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| trued0x | http://paste.openstack.org/show/18773/ | 18:49 |
| zynzel | and you test with nova user? | 18:50 |
| trued0x | yes | 18:50 |
| trued0x | the db connection is inside the /etc/nova/nova.conf file right? | 18:51 |
| zynzel | trued0x: paste full output from starting nova-compute | 18:51 |
| zynzel | trued0x: yes | 18:51 |
| trued0x | so the default nova.conf file had lines in there --dhcpbridge_flagfile, --logdir, etc.. | 18:51 |
| trued0x | but i noticed the sample nova.conf file looks more like ini file | 18:52 |
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| zynzel | dont know what version you are using, and syntax of config could change | 18:54 |
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| trued0x | every time i run exec su -s /bin/sh -c "exec nova-compute --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova-compute.conf" nova it will close out my putty connection. weird. | 18:54 |
| zynzel | we use config with --option :) | 18:54 |
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| trued0x | exec su -s /bin/sh -c "exec nova-compute --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova-compute.conf" nova > output.txt | 18:56 |
| trued0x | since it closes my putty connection i have to log back in and the output.txt file is 0 bytes | 18:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017633 in nova "deallocate_fixed_ip attempts to update an already deleted fixed_ip" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017633 | 18:56 |
| gmi | trued0x: you could try to use screen and get back to your session | 18:57 |
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| trued0x | gmi: sorry not too familiar with screen. can you give me a quick how-to | 18:58 |
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| gmi | trued0x: you first install screen, then run "screen" which starts it and then your command (e.g. exec su -s /bin/sh -c "exec nova-compute --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova-compute.conf" nova > output.txt); you then have your ssh session disconnected so you ssh back in, type "screen -ls" to find your screen number and type "screen -r 2743" (if your number is 2743) | 19:02 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #995198 in openstack-ci "upload client libs to PyPI from Jenkins" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995198 | 19:02 |
| trued0x | gmi: thanks will try now | 19:02 |
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| gmi | trued0x: and you reattach to your screen number where your command was running | 19:02 |
| trued0x | heh, it clsoed the screen session completely | 19:03 |
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| fm255005 | is there a token for glance ? | 19:30 |
| fm255005 | i know i created one for keystone | 19:30 |
| trued0x | fm255005 still having problems? | 19:30 |
| trued0x | in /etc/glance/glance-api-paste.ini make sure admin_user and admin_password are your adminUser acct | 19:32 |
| trued0x | admin_tenant_name shoudl be openstackDemo if you're using the default name | 19:32 |
| trued0x | same with /etc/glance/glance-registry-paste.ini | 19:32 |
| fm255005 | i did that | 19:33 |
| fm255005 | yea | 19:33 |
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| trued0x | and you can connect to your mysql db for glance? | 19:33 |
| trued0x | mysql -u glance -p glance | 19:33 |
| fm255005 | yea | 19:33 |
| fm255005 | wait | 19:33 |
| fm255005 | let me check again | 19:33 |
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| fm255005 | did you add admin_token to the inis? | 19:34 |
| trued0x | no | 19:35 |
| trued0x | [pipeline:glance-api] | 19:35 |
| trued0x | pipeline = versionnegotiation authtoken auth-context apiv1app | 19:35 |
| fm255005 | i didnt have auth-context | 19:36 |
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| trued0x | did it fix the problem? | 19:39 |
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| fm255005 | nay | 19:39 |
| fm255005 | i get 503 service unavailable errors | 19:39 |
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| fm255005 | im running glance with the following command | 19:41 |
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| fm255005 | sudo glance --os_username=adminuser --os_password=secretpassword --os_tenant=ARTIM --os_auth_url=http://153.65.185.202:5000/v2.0 add name="tty-linux-kernel" disk_format=aki container_format=aki < ttylinux-uec-amd64-12.1_2.6.35-22_1-vmlinuz | 19:42 |
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| fm255005 | sudo glance --os_username=adminuser --os_password=secretpassword --os_tenant=ARTIM --os_auth_url=http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0 add name="tty-linux-kernel" disk_format=aki container_format=aki < ttylinux-uec-amd64-12.1_2.6.35-22_1-vmlinuz | 19:43 |
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| fm255005 | also tried that | 19:43 |
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| fm255005 | no go | 19:43 |
| dolphm_ | fm255005: is keystone running at either of those endpoints? | 19:44 |
| dolphm_ | fm255005: could also be an issue reaching swift if swift is backing glance? | 19:44 |
| dolphm_ | fm255005: hard to say without any details of the 503 | 19:44 |
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| fm255005 | yes | 19:48 |
| fm255005 | let me check swift | 19:48 |
| fm255005 | dont think swift has been confifured | 19:48 |
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| fm255005 | im going by the documentation | 19:48 |
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| fm255005 | so i ran an endpoint-list | 19:50 |
| fm255005 | and i dont see 127.0.0.1:5000 | 19:51 |
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| fm255005 | CRITICAL [keystone.middleware.auth_token] Unable to obtain admin token: invalid json response | 19:54 |
| fm255005 | if i look at the logs i get this | 19:55 |
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| fm255005 | when i put the admin_token command in to the paste.ini it does away | 19:55 |
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| fm255005 | got it | 20:03 |
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| fm255005 | WHOO HOO! | 20:04 |
| s34n | I'm trying to get my arms around how swift works. I'm mostly interesting in block storage. | 20:07 |
| s34n | I've read http://openstack.org/software/openstack-storage/ which claims 'Having no central "brain" or master point of control provides greater scalability, redundancy and durability.' | 20:08 |
| notmyname | s34n: swift isn't block storage, but if you're interested in how it works, i'll be happy to answer any questions you have | 20:08 |
| s34n | notmyname: ok. swift is the object storage piece? | 20:09 |
| notmyname | s34n: yes | 20:09 |
| ijw | <notmyname> it's mainly dark magic. And squirrels. | 20:09 |
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| notmyname | that's totally made up ;-) | 20:09 |
| s34n | what's the block storage piece? | 20:09 |
| notmyname | s34n: cinder | 20:10 |
| ijw | Well, I can't think where else the squirrels are coming from. | 20:10 |
| WormMan | we pay a fair amount to have the folks at our datacenters keep the squirrels fed and entertained so swift keeps running | 20:10 |
| notmyname | s34n: still in development. I'm not sure of the prod-ready status of it. it's nova-volumes spun off into a separate project | 20:10 |
| zykes- | notmyname: the block storage thing is a seperate one from cinder as well isn't it ? | 20:10 |
| s34n | hmm.. | 20:10 |
| zykes- | I mean RS Block Storage | 20:11 |
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| notmyname | zykes-: the stuff that RAX is working on will integrate into the rest of openstack (ie, implements or uses nova-volumes) | 20:12 |
| notmyname | zykes-: but you'd have to ask someone who works at RAX for more details ;-) | 20:12 |
| zykes- | notmyname: as far as I understood | 20:12 |
| zykes- | notmyname: don't you wokr at rax ? :p | 20:12 |
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| notmyname | zykes-: not anymore. my last day was june 8 (http://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/06/20/swiftstack-welcomes-john-dickinson/) | 20:13 |
| zykes- | oh, tired of rs ? :| | 20:13 |
| s34n | I'm looking for something where I can say, "Make me a 2TB drive that is mirrored to a different site, and give me a usable handle so I can attach it to a server." | 20:13 |
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| notmyname | zykes-: nope, RAX is an awesome place to work. just some more interesting opportunities (personally) for me elsewhere. I'm still a huge fan of RAX | 20:14 |
| zykes- | :/ | 20:14 |
| zykes- | I wonder what happened to Rick Clark and co that "started" much of the stuff :p | 20:15 |
| zykes- | seems to have disappeared | 20:15 |
| s34n | does openstack have something like that? | 20:15 |
| ijw | Rick's at Cisco | 20:15 |
| zykes- | ijw: I know, but can't see his presence :p | 20:15 |
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| notmyname | s34n: that's what cinder (called nova-volumes until recently) is all about. you should talk to clayg_ about it | 20:16 |
| notmyname | s34n: openstack/swift | 20:17 |
| notmyname | oops | 20:17 |
| notmyname | s34n: https://github.com/openstack/cinder | 20:17 |
| zykes- | notmyname: did others change as well ? | 20:18 |
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| notmyname | zykes-: others == other RAX employees? no | 20:19 |
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| zykes- | ok ;p | 20:21 |
| s34n | notmyname: that page points me to cinder.openstack.org, which doesn't exist | 20:21 |
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| s34n | it also has a twitter link that comes up empty for me | 20:21 |
| zykes- | hmm, does anyone know why samsung didn't succeed in getting OS up ? | 20:22 |
| notmyname | s34n: ayoung and clayg_ are core devs for it. I'd ask them | 20:23 |
| s34n | it also has a link to jenkins.openstack.org, which gives me an OpenID transaction error page | 20:24 |
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| ijw | s34n: you want to talk to an expert on the subject, but I think nova-volume / cinder is more about getting a volume attached to a VM than making the volume redundant in the first place. | 20:25 |
| s34n | I'm talking about even carving out a volume, too | 20:26 |
| ijw | Yeah, it does that too, now you say it | 20:27 |
| s34n | I would think that if I can create volumes, I should be able to connect them to VMs just like any other iSCSI target, or whatever | 20:27 |
| BLZbubba | does openstack use nbd only from snapshot launches? | 20:28 |
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| s34n | is cinder built on nbd? | 20:29 |
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| BLZbubba | not sure, i am just getting horrible performance whenever i launch a snapshot | 20:30 |
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| ayoung | notmyname, Not me. | 20:36 |
| ayoung | Anthony Young, perhaps? | 20:36 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017682 in nova "Should not use an IPNetwork when assigning floating IPs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017682 | 20:36 |
| ayoung | aka sleepsonthefloor | 20:36 |
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| notmyname | ayoung: ya, ok. sorry :-) | 20:38 |
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| BLZbubba | 2012-06-25 14:37:54 TRACE nova.rpc.amqp libvirtError: internal error cannot load AppArmor profile 'libvirt-52ce97f0-1ed9-4a42-b828-d2162c09f503' | 20:45 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017691 in openstack-manuals "Task: add rootwrap configuration information" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017691 | 21:11 |
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| mgalkiewicz | hi I am using essex and I cant change default ip address of glance server | 21:14 |
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| mgalkiewicz | I have configured glance_api_servers=10.1.0.1:9292 in nova.conf and restarted nova-api | 21:15 |
| mgalkiewicz | but it still tries to connect to localhost | 21:15 |
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| benner | mgalkiewicz: is keystone endpoint correct? | 21:25 |
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| mgalkiewicz | benner: what do you mean | 21:26 |
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| mgalkiewicz | keystone is properly configured | 21:26 |
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| benner | mgalkiewicz: ok. what part of openstack connects to glance throuth localhost? | 21:31 |
| mgalkiewicz | nova-api | 21:31 |
| benner | is this done: glance_api_servers=x.y.z.w and image_service=nova.image.glance.GlanceImageService ? | 21:32 |
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| benner | and is debuging output or servise startup says the same? | 21:32 |
| benner | grep glance /var/log/nova/nova-api.log | 21:33 |
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| mgalkiewicz | image_service=nova.image.glance.GlanceImageService is configured | 21:35 |
| benner | so need set up glance_api_servers properly | 21:35 |
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| mgalkiewicz | glance_api_servers are configured as well I am telling that it does not work so I have already set it up | 21:38 |
| mgalkiewicz | grep does not show anything I can find how to set debug log level | 21:38 |
| mgalkiewicz | cant* | 21:38 |
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| benner | add --verbose | 21:42 |
| benner | and restart | 21:42 |
| benner | and restart | 21:42 |
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| mgalkiewicz | --verbose to nova.conf? | 21:45 |
| mgalkiewicz | did not help | 21:45 |
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| mgalkiewicz | verbose=true works | 21:49 |
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| mgalkiewicz | logs shows sth like this: glance_api_servers : ['10.1.0.1:9292'] | 21:50 |
| mgalkiewicz | but when I dump traffic with tcpdump it uses localhost | 21:51 |
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| mgalkiewicz | omg this is so annoying I had the same problem with other flags | 21:53 |
| trued0x | zynzel: still around? | 21:53 |
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| benner | mgalkiewicz: i think 10.1.0.1 is your localhost | 22:02 |
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| BLZbubba | ugh what does this error mean: cannot load AppArmor profile | 22:04 |
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| mgalkiewicz_ | yes it is but nova-api uses 127.0.0.1 instead of 10.1.0.1 | 22:04 |
| BLZbubba | trying to start a VM after I had to power cycle the compute node | 22:04 |
| benner | BLZbubba: this is problem with your AppArmor | 22:04 |
| mgalkiewicz_ | on 127.0.0.1 glance is not listening only on 10.1.0.1 | 22:04 |
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| benner | it's some kind of selinux with other perspective | 22:05 |
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| mgalkiewicz_ | benner: it should not work this way, shouldnt it? | 22:08 |
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| benner | i see the problem that nova-api logs shows other IP address for glance_api_servers | 22:09 |
| benner | also i will be checking keystone endpoits-list for glance service | 22:10 |
| mgalkiewicz_ | well it shows the same which was configured but using sth different for real | 22:10 |
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| benner | try repaste or better - rewrite the text by hand. sometimes when pasting from browser generates other symbols who looks the same as '-' and so on | 22:13 |
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| mgalkiewicz_ | I dont get it what would you like to rewrite for you? | 22:16 |
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| trued0x | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/compute-minimum-configuration-settings.html the example nova.conf at that URL is in a different format than the ones here http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/sample-nova-configuration-files.html | 22:20 |
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| trued0x | is the first URL for an older version of nova? | 22:20 |
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| mgalkiewicz_ | benner: what workaround do you suggest? | 22:25 |
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| BLZbubba | benner: what is AppArmor and why does it prevent kvm from starting? | 22:31 |
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| kieppie1 | hi guys. what are the key differences between OpenStack & CloudStack? why would I want to use the one over the other? | 22:34 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1017722 in nova "instance create API action is extremely slow" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017722 | 22:41 |
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| salv-orlando | kieppe1: that's a rather long discussion :) Why don't you bring this up in the mailing list? | 22:45 |
| kieppie1 | I think I might have to. | 22:46 |
| kieppie1 | Dustin Kirkland ? | 22:47 |
| kieppie1 | = kirkland ? | 22:47 |
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| benner | mgalkiewicz_: i'm note sure. double check all things. see logs. do strace and debug. or give root to other | 22:51 |
| kieppie1 | found kirkland 's post (Canyon's edge) re new Ubuntu VM paradigm via Juju, Orchestra, etc | 22:51 |
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| BLZbubba | can i just remove apparmor altogether? | 22:55 |
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| annegentle | trued0x: the format is the same, it's just that there are more comments in some than others | 23:08 |
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| annegentle | BLZbubba: TryStack ran into that problem with AppArmor as well, maybe ask in #trystack to see if they have specific suggestions. I think they just removed AppArmor. | 23:09 |
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| annegentle | BLZbubba: ah, found the reference. In a Design Summit talk about TryStack, Jay said "AppArmor kills compute nodes" | 23:13 |
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| mikal | Do I need to run a keystone per node which needs authentication services? Or can I configure the middleware to point to keystone on another machine? | 23:51 |
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| WormMan | keystone can run anywhere | 23:59 |
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