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| Diopter | niedbalski: Maybe ssh + dmidecode to compare hypervisor smbios data? | 00:14 |
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| Diopter | niedbalski: Maybe checking the MAC address of the VM's default gateway in the arp cache, to see what the first 3 vendor bytes are | 00:14 |
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| jkff | Hi guys. I've deployed OpenStack on 3 vms (controller + 2x compute) and I can't ping my VMs. I've got a few questions on what the network configuration *is supposed* to be | 01:52 |
| jkff | First of all, should br100 get an IP address when a VM is created? | 01:53 |
| jkff | ...And by "can't ping" I mean "can't even ARP" - tcpdump shows that the ARP request arrives on the compute node, but apparently is not replied. Probably because br100 doesn't get an IP. | 01:54 |
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| jkff | Oh, under "can't ping my VMs" I mean of course the VMs spawned by OpenStack, not the ones this whole thing is running. | 01:54 |
| jkff | I'm trying to ping them from the controller node. | 01:55 |
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| jkff | I'm also concerned that there are no entries in the routing table on the compute node for 10.0.0.0/24. Should they be present? Because how otherwise will the ARP reply get to the requester? | 01:58 |
| Diopter | jkff: Have you read the docs about networking modes and what's required to run them? | 01:58 |
| jkff | Diopter: I'm following the guide at https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-openstack . I did read the docs (I'm using Flat DHCP) and I didn't found anything suspicious, but let me double-check | 01:59 |
| jkff | Diopter: I checked in dnsmasq configs and in syslog that DHCP response *is* being sent to the VM and even DHCPACK is received | 02:00 |
| Diopter | jkff: Never read their guide, but, if you're using Flat DHCP, are you also using multi_host? Or are you expecting to route traffic through the controller? | 02:00 |
| jkff | Diopter: I'm routing through the controller for now. | 02:00 |
| Diopter | jkff: Ok. So where do you have nova-network running? | 02:01 |
| jkff | Diopter: On the controller | 02:01 |
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| jkff | Diopter: I checked that it *is* running. | 02:01 |
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| jkff | Diopter: There are also no errors in that log. | 02:02 |
| Diopter | jkff: Excellent. So your compute nodes VMs are getting DHCP responses, from your controller | 02:02 |
| jkff | Diopter: Yes. | 02:02 |
| Diopter | Which would indicate that all three nodes are on the same broadcast domain/VLAN and successfully communicable | 02:02 |
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| jkff | Diopter: Yes. They're on the same vbox host-only network and the bridge is connected to it. | 02:03 |
| Diopter | jkff: So, in order to ARP across that domain from the host, you would need an IP in their network, as you alluded to | 02:03 |
| Diopter | jkff: I don't generally run FlatDHCP without multi_host, so... I'm not sure immediately about if you might be missing some flags to put a fixed IP on the bridge for you | 02:03 |
| Diopter | But that's most likely all you need | 02:04 |
| jkff | Diopter: Ah, so it's *not ok* that my br100 doesn't have an IP address, right? | 02:04 |
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| Diopter | jkff: Well, it's definitely not ok if you don't have an IP in the same network as the VMs at all on the controller. | 02:04 |
| jkff | Diopter: I'm assuming that it should go like this: ARP request gets through the bridge to the vnet0 interface and there the VM answers that it has this IP address. Or would then the bridge get the IP address too? | 02:04 |
| Diopter | Well, so, there's a bridge on each node, for the vifs (vnet's) | 02:05 |
| jkff | Diopter: br100 on the controller *does* have an IP address, but on the VMs it doesn't | 02:05 |
| Diopter | jkff: An IP in which network? The same as the VMs? | 02:05 |
| jkff | Diopter: 10.0.0.1, this is the VM network, right | 02:05 |
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| jkff | Diopter: My VM is supposed to have IP 10.0.0.3 | 02:06 |
| Diopter | jkff: Interesting. But you said there's no route on the controller? There should at least be an interface route (10.0.0.0/x dev br100) | 02:06 |
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| jkff | Diopter: there is a route on the controller - 10.0.0.0/24 via eth2. But there's no route like this on the compute nodes | 02:07 |
| jkff | Diopter: So that's why I'm worried that perhaps an ARP response doesn't find its way back to the controller. But I can't ARP the VM even from the compute node itself. | 02:07 |
| jkff | (eth2 is the VM network) | 02:07 |
| Diopter | jkff: Is eth2 in br100? | 02:07 |
| jkff | Diopter: yes | 02:08 |
| Diopter | jkff: The compute nodes don't need a route, they're bridging only. | 02:08 |
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| Diopter | jkff: Did you add the via eth2 route yourself? | 02:08 |
| jkff | Diopter: No, I think it was created by openstack | 02:08 |
| jkff | (or perhaps by puppet?..) | 02:09 |
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| jkff | Diopter: let me try creating one on the compute node. | 02:09 |
| Diopter | You don't need one, it's bridging :P | 02:09 |
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| Diopter | Try replacing the controller route | 02:09 |
| jkff | Diopter: with what? | 02:10 |
| Diopter | ip r r 10.0.0.0/24 dev br100 | 02:10 |
| Diopter | That way it'll pick the right source IP | 02:10 |
| Diopter | You probably need to modify whatever /etc/nova/nova.conf flag has "eth2" in it :P | 02:10 |
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| jkff | Diopter: I did what you said on the controller, but ping still doesn't work - Destination Host Unreachable. | 02:11 |
| Diopter | jkff: Try "ping -I br100 x.x.x.x" | 02:11 |
| jkff | Diopter: Same here. | 02:12 |
| jkff | Diopter: Same for arping through eth2 or br100. | 02:12 |
| jkff | Diopter: 0 responses received | 02:12 |
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| Diopter | jkff: Interesting. And I presume nothing on tcpdumping the bridges on the computes? | 02:13 |
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| jkff | Diopter: When I'm tcpdumping on the compute node, I do see that the ARP request arrives. But nothing arrives back on the controller. | 02:13 |
| Diopter | jkff: Ah. So it has nothing to do with the routing table or IPs on the controller. | 02:14 |
| Diopter | jkff: So... there's ebtables and arptables that control things like MAC/ARP filtering | 02:15 |
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| jkff | Diopter: Hm, I noticed I can't ping the controller (10.0.0.1) from the compute node as well | 02:15 |
| Diopter | jkff: Nor should you be able to. What IP would it use as its source? :P | 02:15 |
| Diopter | jkff: How about pinging from inside of one of the VMs? | 02:16 |
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| jkff | Diopter: I need to get into the VM first :) | 02:16 |
| Diopter | Or is VNC not setup | 02:16 |
| jkff | Diopter: I'm headless | 02:16 |
| Diopter | Fun fun | 02:17 |
| Diopter | So... | 02:17 |
| jkff | Diopter: Just to double-check, *should* the compute node's br100 have gotten an IP address of 10.0.0.3/32? | 02:17 |
| Diopter | Not unless you're running FlatDHCP with multi_host | 02:17 |
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| jkff | Diopter: Ok. So it's fine that both eth2 and br100 have no IP addresses? | 02:17 |
| Diopter | In which case nova-network runs on each compute node, and routes its VMs traffic itself | 02:17 |
| Diopter | Yes. That's exactly what networking model you chose -- bridged through the controller | 02:18 |
| jkff | Diopter: Oh ok, so it's not just routed through the controller, but actually *switched* through it, in a sense? | 02:18 |
| Diopter | jkff: Yes. Which is what I mean by bridged. L2 broadcast domain :) | 02:19 |
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| jkff | Diopter: Well, that gives a sense of relief. At least something is not broken. | 02:19 |
| Diopter | The frames are forwarded, in this case by the virtbox host-only network "switch" | 02:19 |
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| jkff | Diopter: And the vnet0 interface shouldn't have an IP address either? | 02:19 |
| Diopter | Correct. In no networking mode does it have an IP | 02:19 |
| jkff | Great. So... let me now try to reconstruct how ping was supposed to work. | 02:20 |
| jkff | First, I need to know the MAC address and I send an ARP request. It arrives successfully. | 02:20 |
| Diopter | jkff: Actually... this might be as simple as security groups :P | 02:21 |
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| Diopter | jkff: Have you setup a security group for the VM to allow ICMP? | 02:21 |
| jkff | Diopter: No. Should I? :) | 02:22 |
| Diopter | jkff: Hehehe, yep. In the dashboard is easiest. And you'll have to rekick the VM, and pick the security group then | 02:22 |
| Diopter | jkff: Add an ICMP rule, from port -1 to port -1, CIDR 0.0.0.0/0, just to open it wide up | 02:23 |
| jkff | Diopter: So does this mean that there's an iptables rule somewhere rejecting the ARP response? | 02:23 |
| jkff | Diopter: And this rule would disappear if I added this security group? | 02:23 |
| Diopter | jkff: ... actually, it probably already had the default security group, and ostensibly changes should go into effect immediately | 02:23 |
| Diopter | jkff: More like ebtables/arptables, and more like an accept would go above the denies | 02:23 |
| Diopter | But yes | 02:23 |
| Diopter | Close enough :) | 02:23 |
| Diopter | Try it. | 02:23 |
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| jkff | Diopter: there's no source/dest port, do you mean ICMP type and code -1 ? | 02:26 |
| Diopter | jkff: Yes. Sorry. The new dash actually makes a distinction for ICMP | 02:26 |
| Diopter | Used to all be port-port, which was nice and confusing for ICMP :P | 02:26 |
| jkff | Diopter: Nope - didn't help | 02:26 |
| Diopter | Maybe rekick the VM | 02:27 |
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| jkff | Diopter: Heh, 1 packet got through ping, but that's it | 02:28 |
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| Diopter | jkff: Restart ping. | 02:28 |
| jkff | Diopter: I had the same situation previously. 1 packet gets through, and nothing more. | 02:28 |
| Diopter | Oh? | 02:28 |
| jkff | Diopter: Now nothing gets through. Destination host unreachable. | 02:28 |
| Diopter | Try rekicking a VM. | 02:29 |
| jkff | Diopter: I tried already | 02:30 |
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| Diopter | Darn. | 02:30 |
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| Diopter | The fact 1 gets through and then no more is exceptionally weird | 02:30 |
| jkff | Diopter: Actually I'm looking at iptables -S on the compute node now | 02:30 |
| jkff | Diopter: And I see there's -A FORWARD -i virbr0 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-port-unreachable | 02:30 |
| jkff | Diopter: And same for -o virbr0 | 02:31 |
| Diopter | That's from the default libvirt network | 02:31 |
| jkff | Diopter: Oh nvm, that's only after nova-compute-FORWARD which should have let it through. | 02:31 |
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| Diopter | The default network isn't used by openstack | 02:32 |
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| Diopter | You can disable it if you like with virsh net-autostart default --disable; virsh net-destroy default | 02:32 |
| jkff | Diopter: ok, I see. | 02:33 |
| jkff | Diopter: So, how should ARP have worked after all? | 02:33 |
| Diopter | jkff: Honestly, 1 packet then nothing is ... really odd. If it's a filtering issue, the filters are all static | 02:33 |
| Diopter | jkff: Makes me think something else odd is happening. | 02:33 |
| jkff | Diopter: Maybe it's something happening in the middle of n-net establishing some rules | 02:34 |
| Diopter | jkff: ... you said you had these running on a host-only network? | 02:34 |
| jkff | Diopter: yes | 02:34 |
| Diopter | Can you go create an internal network, give it a name, and put all three machines on it? | 02:34 |
| Diopter | host-only means they have to bridge through your actual host machine | 02:34 |
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| Diopter | internal is a virtual network that's like a private switch | 02:34 |
| Diopter | Isn't seen by the host at all | 02:34 |
| jkff | Diopter: Sorry, actually it's an internal network, not host-only. | 02:35 |
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| Diopter | Damn. | 02:36 |
| jkff | Diopter: Can we try walking step by step at the link level, how an ARP should have worked? | 02:36 |
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| jkff | Diopter: (btw, thanks for the help so far. I really appreciate you spending the time and I promise to give it back to the community in some form or other) | 02:37 |
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| Diopter | jkff: Sure thing | 02:39 |
| Diopter | Very simply, what happens when you try to ping is that the routing engine needs to first figure out what network the destination IP lives on and how to get there | 02:40 |
| jkff | Diopter: So. 1) controller is sending an ARP request via the br100 interface => via eth2 it gets to the compute node and there via br100 and vnet0 it gets to the VM. Right? | 02:40 |
| Diopter | In this case, you have a route to the 10.0.0/24 network, out br100 (over one of its ports, eth2) | 02:40 |
| jkff | Yup. Then, the VM is supposed to see that someone's looking for it and give an ARP reply? | 02:41 |
| Diopter | There's no "via" (nexthop), so instead of routing through a next hop gateway, it's going to send the frame (L2) to the destination NIC directly | 02:41 |
| Diopter | So it ARPs for the MAC out the device. | 02:41 |
| Diopter | In your case, that's supposed to go br100 -> eth2 -> internal network -> (compute) -> eth? -> br? -> vnet? -> (vm) -> eth0 | 02:42 |
| Diopter | At that point, the inner eth0 Has the IP in question | 02:42 |
| Diopter | So it ARP replies with its MAC | 02:42 |
| jkff | Diopter: Yes. It definitely makes it to "compute -> eth2" | 02:42 |
| Diopter | jkff: Can you tcpdump compute -> vnet? | 02:43 |
| Diopter | Should see it there too, if there's no filtering on the compute node stopping it | 02:43 |
| jkff | Diopter: Yes, I see the ARP requests but no responses. | 02:43 |
| jkff | Diopter: It's "who has 10.0.0.4 tell 10.0.0.1" | 02:43 |
| Diopter | jkff: Cool, so that's a plus! | 02:44 |
| Diopter | Here's something you can try | 02:44 |
| Diopter | on the compute for your vm: ip a a dev br100 10.0.0.100/24 | 02:44 |
| Diopter | ping 10.0.0.4 | 02:44 |
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| jkff | Diopter: Why 10.0.0.100? what is the 100 about? | 02:44 |
| Diopter | Just picking something high to not potentially collide with more VMs | 02:45 |
| jkff | Ok | 02:45 |
| Diopter | We're manually stuffing it on there so we have an IP on the same machine to try from | 02:45 |
| Diopter | (ruling out the internetworking) | 02:45 |
| jkff | Nope, that ping doesn't work. But I recall that it's not supposed to work according to the compute node's iptables... | 02:45 |
| jkff | I mean, pinging a vm from its own compute node isn't supposed to work. Or is that just for the floating IP? | 02:46 |
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| jkff | Diopter: but I *can* ping 10.0.0.100 from the controller. | 02:47 |
| Diopter | jkff: Interesting. I'm starting to think maybe your VM image is to blame. | 02:48 |
| Diopter | You said you do get DHCPACKs though... | 02:48 |
| jkff | Diopter: Though I can't *arping* it, but arp 10.0.0.100 gives me the compute node's br100 mac. | 02:48 |
| Diopter | You could try some fun stuff | 02:48 |
| Diopter | Like flushing ebtables and arptables on your compute node | 02:48 |
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| jkff | Diopter: Whoa, that's another tool in my toolbox. ebtables -t nat -L did return some stuff. | 02:50 |
| jkff | Diopter: (filter and broute were empty) | 02:51 |
| Diopter | mmhmm | 02:51 |
| Diopter | You can -F it to flush, I believe it is | 02:51 |
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| Diopter | (I live in iptables a lot more than ebtables generally) | 02:51 |
| jkff | Diopter: Done. Ping again now? | 02:51 |
| Diopter | Yep | 02:51 |
| Diopter | From compute | 02:51 |
| Diopter | To VM IP | 02:51 |
| jkff | Diopter: Done. The table is empty after the ping. | 02:52 |
| Diopter | Did it succeed? | 02:52 |
| jkff | Nope | 02:53 |
| Diopter | Then now I'm Really starting to blame your VM image :P | 02:53 |
| Diopter | Where did you get it? | 02:53 |
| jkff | Diopter: Well, it's the standard Cirros x86_64 image | 02:53 |
| Diopter | Huh. Interesting | 02:53 |
| jkff | http://wiki.openstack.org/GettingImages . I may have imported it incorrectly in some way, though. | 02:54 |
| jkff | Let me try being hardcode and asking virsh to do a screenshot. | 02:54 |
| Diopter | jkff: Check the instance log | 02:54 |
| jkff | Maybe it died now. | 02:54 |
| Diopter | cat /var/lib/nova/instances/instance*/console.log | 02:54 |
| jkff | It's empty | 02:54 |
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| Diopter | Orly? That's not a great sign | 02:54 |
| Diopter | Using the exact same image here, and logging successfully | 02:55 |
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| jkff | Diopter: Well - getting closer :) | 02:55 |
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| jkff | Diopter: oh crap! | 02:57 |
| jkff | Diopter: It says it doesn't have a bootable hard disk. | 02:57 |
| jkff | Diopter: Apparently I imported the image the wrong way :( Damn, this was a by far too long way to such a dumb realization :( | 02:58 |
| jkff | Diopter: Now the least I can do is write a blogpost and find an appropriate wiki page to edit... Do you think there's a way to detect something like this from openstack automatically? | 02:58 |
| jkff | Diopter: (apparently the DHCP request was from an attempt to do PXE boot, but there was no networking kernel to handle the other requests?) | 02:59 |
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| jkff | Diopter: That's truly a case where too much knowledge hurts :( Had I not thought of myself as an iptables ninja, I'd probably have checked the screenshot first. | 03:01 |
| jkff | Diopter: Thank you again. Going to the ML to post the experience. | 03:01 |
| Diopter | No problem! | 03:02 |
| Diopter | Glad to have helped | 03:02 |
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| jkff | Diopter: hey, I know why a single ping response could have gotten through. Probably it sneaked in while BIOS was running some kind of network micro-kernel while trying to PXE boot. And then it failed, stopped that thing and didn't pay attention to more packets. | 03:07 |
| Diopter | Ahh. Good thinking. Sounds possible | 03:07 |
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| jkff | Diopter: JFYI, I imported the correct image now, and everything works fine. I'm finishing my ML post. | 03:30 |
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| Diopter | jkff: Sweet! | 03:36 |
| jkff | Diopter: Posted. I'm "Eugene Kirpichov". https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg14926.html | 03:36 |
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| Diopter | jkff: Hah, cool. Nice of you to mention me. | 03:38 |
| jkff | Alright, time to go home now. Thanks again, bye! | 03:40 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1026890 in openstack-manuals "in OpenStack Install and Deploy Manual - Essex, when change owner of /etc/nova, document mistype" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026890 | 03:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1026892 in nova "When abnormal exit nova-network, the file lock was not released" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026892 | 04:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1026898 in nova "describe image attribute does not support attributes for kernel/ramdisk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026898 | 04:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1026908 in swift "wrong messages returned when using curl in version 1.5.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026908 | 05:36 |
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| zykes- | how does the pagination marker stuff work ? | 07:14 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1026949 in cinder "c-vol service unable to start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026949 | 08:01 |
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| melmoth | when i ask horizon to create my juju environment.yaml, it complain about "ServiceCatalogException: Invalid service catalog service: s3" | 09:17 |
| melmoth | i m not using swift (nor do i know exactly what is this s3 thingy it mention) | 09:17 |
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| melmoth | anyone had an idea what it may be complaining about ? | 09:17 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1026973 in tempest "Testcase: Write test case for live-migration and live-block-migration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1026973 | 09:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027018 in devstack "XenAPI helpers need to install DevStack agent in Dom0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027018 | 10:50 |
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| lakes | hello | 11:04 |
| lakes | i just added a new centos image to OpenStack Essex | 11:05 |
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| lakes | when i created an instance, the new instance does not have eth0 | 11:05 |
| lakes | only eth1 which was not even configured | 11:06 |
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| lakes | does anyone know what could be going on ? | 11:06 |
| Drakiz_ | lakes: did you cloned image ? | 11:11 |
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| Drakiz_ | lakes: if so, i think interface name eth0 is glued to specific mac adress at guest /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules | 11:25 |
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| lakes | so what do i do ? | 11:38 |
| lakes | how do i unglue it ? | 11:38 |
| aloga | remove the rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules | 11:39 |
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| aloga | or remove the file at all | 11:39 |
| lakes | i deleted the file i still got the same problem | 11:39 |
| Drakiz_ | lakes: rebooted after ? | 11:40 |
| aloga | reboot | 11:40 |
| lakes | oh ok | 11:40 |
| lakes | i ll try that | 11:40 |
| lakes | the file gets recreated when i reboot | 11:47 |
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| lakes | chattr +i /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules | 11:55 |
| lakes | fixed the problem | 11:55 |
| lakes | thanks guys | 11:55 |
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| c0by | hello everyone, can anyone one help me out, apparmor on ubuntu 12.04 nova-compute breaks starting VMs, I get this apparmor="DENIED" operation="exec" info="Failed name lookup" error=-13 parent=1 profile="libvirt-aff0fe3e-cfc4-4825-badd-6c0b3fb5025c" name="/usr/bin/kvm" pid=11660 comm="libvirtd" requested_mask="x" denied_mask="x" fsuid=105 ouid=0 | 12:25 |
| c0by | my apparmor profile for libvirt is default | 12:25 |
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| c0by | turn off apparmor everything work fine | 12:25 |
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| ScottHiland | Is anyone tracking, or has anyone seen stats on the size of the mysql db in relation to size of the openstack install? My storage options are limited, but I have a couple of older servers that would do nicely (mysql <--> drbd) if I didn't have to sweat the db getting out of hand. | 12:30 |
| ScottHiland | Looking at the tables and the filesizes so far, I can't see it becoming a problem, but I want to architect it properly so it doesn't become an issue later. | 12:31 |
| tongli | someone in early June indicated that nova-manage is getting deprecated. anyone know what is replacing it? | 12:32 |
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| roaet | Is it possible to run openstack in openstack? | 12:49 |
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| melmoth | roaet, i think it is. | 12:51 |
| melmoth | roaet, the only thing i m kind of puzzled about would be how to manage networking | 12:52 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027066 in openstack-manuals "XenAPI network docs incorrect around network_driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027066 | 13:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027069 in nova "get_console_output with body 'os-getConsoleOutput' set to non-integer doe not respond with HTTPBadRequest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027069 | 13:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027087 in nova "Quota counts always include VMs in Deleting state" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027087 | 14:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027105 in nova "Restarting nova-compute removes ip packet filters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027105 | 14:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027109 in keystone "DOCS: Broken link in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/api_curl_examples.html" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027109 | 14:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027120 in openstack-common "rpc tests should use BaseTestCase" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027120 | 15:20 |
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| cryptk | anyone know of any docs on getting OpenStack running with Kronos? | 15:22 |
| cryptk | it's xenapi on ubuntu, and I know it works (I've done it) but looking for any already made docs on it that I can point a friend to | 15:23 |
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| s34n | dtroyer: ping | 15:34 |
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| dtroyer | s34n: yo | 15:35 |
| s34n | It looks like you are the one who started the cinder repo on github, so I'm guessing you are involved. | 15:35 |
| dtroyer | cinder? no, I'm really only working the devstack bits for that | 15:36 |
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| dtroyer | but I am mildly familiar with it | 15:36 |
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| s34n | I'd like to become more familiar with it | 15:38 |
| s34n | It looks like markmc is responsible for most of the activity | 15:39 |
| dtroyer | actually jgriffith is leading the charge IIRC | 15:39 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: What are you interested in :) | 15:39 |
| s34n | jgriffith: Everything about it. I'd like to know where it is at, where it's heading, what needs help, etc. | 15:40 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Ok...I can help with all of that | 15:41 |
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| s34n | I need to start with a 10,000 meter understanding | 15:41 |
| s34n | and work closer | 15:41 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Ok, here's a good place to get the general low down: http://wiki.openstack.org/Cinder | 15:41 |
| s34n | cinder.openstack.org is not very informative yet | 15:41 |
| jgriffith | s34n: I should fix that :) | 15:42 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: That's actually one of the answers to your question "what needs help" | 15:42 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Documentation!! | 15:42 |
| s34n | np. I guess I should start with nova-compute volume management | 15:42 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Yep, it's very much the same for now, just taking that component and extracting it from Nova | 15:43 |
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| s34n | jgriffith: k. I have a lot of catch up to do before I waste too much of your time | 15:44 |
| * s34n starts reading | 15:44 | |
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| Spirilis | hey while we have a nova-volume/cinder guy here, is there any docs detailing what all iSCSI SAN drivers have been written so far? | 15:44 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: No worries, you won't be wasting my time at all | 15:44 |
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| jgriffith | Spirilis: I think the best way to get this info is just browse the code... | 15:45 |
| jgriffith | Spirilis: For SAN iSCSI specificially you can just grep class in nova/volume/san.py | 15:45 |
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| Spirilis | aye, saw a couple (HP/Lefthand, Solaris ZFS+iSCSI, some SSD device) but wondered if there was other companies working on adding support/etc | 15:46 |
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| Spirilis | course maybe you don't know if they're doing it on their own :) | 15:46 |
| jgriffith | Spirilis: the only things "in progress" right now are Netapp and IBM | 15:46 |
| Spirilis | ahh k | 15:46 |
| Spirilis | good to know. | 15:46 |
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| jgriffith | Spirilis: There's also a number of drivers that aren't under the iSCSIsan grouping | 15:47 |
| Spirilis | Hmm | 15:47 |
| jgriffith | Spirilis: Looking for anything specific? | 15:47 |
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| Spirilis | Well, my boss and I were tossing around the thought of asking for an iSCSI eval license on some of our arrays and maybe writing one ourselves... | 15:48 |
| Spirilis | we have EMC VNX, HP/3Par and Isilon in house but no iSCSI enabled on any of them | 15:49 |
| Spirilis | However it would be an awesome boon to our openstack prospects if we had access to them. | 15:49 |
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| jgriffith | Spirilis: Yep, understand that for sure | 15:49 |
| jgriffith | Spirilis: Well if you narrow the scope a bit and have some ideas let me know and maybe I can help | 15:50 |
| Spirilis | I'm poking around the VNX right now to see if there's a hidden "we trust you bought a license for this, just enable iSCSI" button :-D | 15:50 |
| jgriffith | Spirilis: Good luck with that :) | 15:50 |
| Spirilis | Np, it'll probably be more questions about the code layout (although looking at existing examples should help) | 15:50 |
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| jgriffith | Spirilis: Just let me know, happy to help | 15:50 |
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| s34n | I'm a bit bewildered by the spread of all the openstack components. One tool wants django, another wants apache with mod-wsgi, another wants paste, another wants memcache, etc... | 15:52 |
| s34n | Some things are ini files, some are YAML, some are json | 15:52 |
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| s34n | I know it takes more than one thing to build a project of this scope, but I expect a little more consistency | 15:53 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Part of what you're seeing I believe is all the different layers of API's etc. | 15:53 |
| jgriffith | s34n: It seems hard to believe at first glance but there is a descent organization to the madness | 15:54 |
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| s34n | but why am I running apache-wsgi and paste on the same server? | 15:54 |
| jgriffith | s34n: keep in mind you have multiple interfaces: Horizon (there's your django), python-client's, ec2 layers etc etc | 15:55 |
| s34n | yes. but why can't they work off the same common toolchain? | 15:55 |
| jgriffith | s34n: Well paste ties into the apache-wsgi stuff so it really is 'the tool chain' | 15:57 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: TBH I'm not the architect so probably not the best person to answer. | 15:57 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Now, what would be cool is if you get all the spaghetti figured out and have a proposal to make it better/cleaner :) | 15:58 |
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| s34n | :) | 15:58 |
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| jgriffith | s34n: Also, for the questions you're asking you might want to look at the tool chain info ie http://pythonpaste.org/url-parsing-with-wsgi.html | 15:59 |
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| s34n | what is a "region" for a keystone service? | 16:14 |
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| dm255029 | in nova security groups is there a rule I can add to allow all ports to/from all ports? | 16:16 |
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| s34n | annegentle: ping | 16:24 |
| wkelly | dm255029: source ip 0.0.0.0/0 ports 1 - 65535 | 16:24 |
| wkelly | for tcp and udp | 16:24 |
| wkelly | icmp is 0.0.0.0/0 -1 -1 | 16:25 |
| wkelly | s34n: a region is a collection of openstack services. If you're using the same keystone to auth for multiple openstack deployments, it can be useful | 16:25 |
| wkelly | but usually, you just pick one ("RegionOne" is popular) | 16:25 |
| wkelly | and use it for everything. | 16:25 |
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| dm255029 | wkelly: thanks, I want my monitoring server to be wide open. | 16:32 |
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| dm255029 | wkelly: Ah i see, it looks like Horizon is limited to what the nova command line can do. | 16:34 |
| s34n | In http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/keystone-service-endpoint-create.html, some endpoints are defined as /v2.0/ and some as /v2/... | 16:35 |
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| s34n | should they be the same? do they need to be different? does it matter? | 16:36 |
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| dm255029 | I take that back, I'm wrong but it works! | 16:38 |
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| annegentle | s34n: v2 is Compute API, v2.0 is Identity API… does that help within the context? | 16:50 |
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| s34n | yes | 16:50 |
| s34n | thx | 16:50 |
| annegentle | s34n: no problem | 16:51 |
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| s34n | annegentle: setsebool -P virt_use_execmem on <-- fails | 17:06 |
| s34n | "record not found in the database (No such file or directory)" | 17:06 |
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| annegentle | s34n: sorry I'm not familiar with virt_use_execmem - any others in channel who can help? (Lots of people at OSCon still or traveling today I'd guess) | 17:10 |
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| s34n | annegentle: sorry to nag you. I thought you authored http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/qemu.html | 17:11 |
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| s34n | The Fedora/Redhat/Centos Admin Guide must have been a copy/paste of the Ubuntu Guide | 17:13 |
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| s34n | http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/compute-configuring-guest-network.html is completely Ubuntu/Debian stuff. Not Redhat. | 17:14 |
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| mtheall | hi, is it possible to use swift all-in-one on a non-xfs filesystem? | 17:34 |
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| notmyname | mtheall: sure. swift only requires a filesystem that supports xattrs | 17:34 |
| mtheall | that's what i thought. my filesystem definitely supports xattrs | 17:35 |
| mtheall | however some swift tests keeps failing because it can't find xxx-file.db-journal | 17:35 |
| mtheall | e.g. 9d00c9d091fea9ea855f29c22714dc83.db-journal | 17:37 |
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| mtheall | 9d00c9d091fea9ea855f29c22714dc83.db exists, but my filesystem is not a journaling filesystem | 17:37 |
| s34n | I somehow missed the part of my install tutorial that covers messaging. It just suddenly expects me to edit /etc/qpidd.conf | 17:37 |
| s34n | So if I'm using qpid, do I need libvirt-qpid? | 17:38 |
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| s34n | qpid-qmf? qpid-cpp-client? | 17:39 |
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| s34n | ahh. nm. here it is two pages later. | 17:46 |
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| mtheall | hmmmm i think it appears to be working now | 17:47 |
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| mtheall | anyways thanks for making it clear that the only requirement is xattrs | 17:48 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027187 in nova "Quota handing is broken for multiple delete requests will reduce the" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027187 | 18:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027194 in quantum "Vm can't talk with DHCP server with LinuxBridgeDriver plugin" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027194 | 18:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027197 in nova "Adding Image name in notifications for rebuild and create can decrease db calls" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027197 | 18:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027206 in horizon "Missing "more" link with images pagination" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027206 | 18:56 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027210 in horizon "Images table broken due to recent glanceclient change" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027210 | 19:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027212 in devstack "unsatisfied dependency: n-net requires glance installed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027212 | 19:06 |
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| annegentle | s34n: the yum/apt guides share source and use conditional settings for outputting two guides, there are doc bugs logged for those issues though, just need to fix! Sorry about that. | 19:08 |
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| context | anyone here run nexenta or just setup openstorage manually? | 19:11 |
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| notmyname | context: what is "openstorage"? | 19:16 |
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| context | err... openstack storage | 19:19 |
| context | http://www.openstack.org/software/openstack-storage/ | 19:19 |
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| bitassassin_ | hmmm | 19:25 |
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| s34n | can somebody help me configure my bridge? | 19:27 |
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| dm255029 | Does anyone know why when we run lokkit on CentOS on a compute (nova) node networking goes down and we have to restart everything including remove the bridge lock files? | 19:32 |
| dm255029 | I really need to open a port and I can't take the environment down right now. | 19:33 |
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| Math___ | anybody here using swift + swift3 ? | 19:43 |
| Math___ | I am trying to get authenticated with a fat client, S3 compatible, and it fails. I want to know why.... | 19:44 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027230 in openstack-manuals "Install guide: guest VM networking settings need RHEL equivalent" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027230 | 19:45 |
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| s34n | annegentle: is bug 1027230 correct? | 19:56 |
| context | apt-get would be debian | 19:58 |
| context | if that page is suppose to be for rhel | 19:58 |
| s34n | right. that part is correct. but is the bridging instruction correct? | 19:58 |
| s34n | do you need to create another bridge besides what libvirt does automatically? | 19:59 |
| context | i dont know. i dont see brctl on debian | 19:59 |
| context | s34n: /but/ i think brctl is general linux command | 19:59 |
| s34n | context: it is. you can apt-get it on debian | 20:00 |
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| context | i dont know too much about openstack yet :/ | 20:00 |
| context | im waiting on parts for my new NAS to come in the mail next week | 20:01 |
| context | then need to setup VLANing for my two servers | 20:01 |
| ewindisch | apt-get install bridge-utils | 20:07 |
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| zykes- | Why do VLANing ? | 20:21 |
| zykes- | use Floodlight and Quantum | 20:21 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027255 in glance "anyjson 0.3.3 appears to break glance-api" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027255 | 21:15 |
| s34n | when I nova-manage db_sync, it tells me that db_sync does not match any options. Why? | 21:18 |
| zykes- | s34n: nova-manage db sync | 21:19 |
| zykes- | koolhead11: ping! | 21:19 |
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| s34n | zykes-: thx. there's that consistency thing again | 21:20 |
| zykes- | : o | 21:20 |
| zykes- | probably will change in the course of Folsom or G* | 21:20 |
| zykes- | one is allowed to hope :p | 21:20 |
| Vinsh_HP | Hey all.. been fighting the latest build of devstack... getting some new errors when I click on images in the dashboard... | 21:21 |
| Vinsh_HP | TypeError at /syspanel/images/images/ | 21:21 |
| Vinsh_HP | object of type 'generator' has no len() | 21:21 |
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| Vinsh_HP | Can't seem to figure this out after 2 days of hacking on it.. wondered if there was any new change in the last week or so that would cause all these django issues. | 21:21 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027263 in nova "Nova volume api volume list and volume detail list are the same" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027263 | 21:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027281 in nova "In the nova-volume api a GET to /types returns extra db fields for json response" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027281 | 22:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027282 in python-novaclient "python-novaclient 2.6.10 causes authentication failure (with correct credentials)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027282 | 22:41 |
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| s34n | why does my lvm volgroup have to have a specific name to work in nova-volume? | 22:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027287 in openstack-manuals "Compute API extension os-hypervisors not documented" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027287 | 22:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1027309 in openstack-manuals "CoreFilter requires setting cpu_allocation_ratio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1027309 | 23:56 |
| s34n | I'm trying to login to the dashboard, but it doesn't like my credentials. How do I change my credentials? | 23:56 |
| s34n | fwiw, a login failure generates an ugly 403 error screen | 23:57 |
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