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hezekiah_ | nova show <ID> can take uuid or integer id or name | 00:23 |
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hezekiah_ | but the rest api cannot | 00:23 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043579 in anvil "tests fail due to pycrypto not being upgraded" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043579 | 00:25 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043583 in quantum "Ubuntu 12.04: must start quantum-dhcp-agent by hand" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043583 | 00:50 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043584 in horizon "Keypair name lost after launch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043584 | 00:56 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043585 in nova "Flavor disabled status should not be shown by default" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043585 | 01:01 |
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huaia | Any body here? | 01:22 |
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huaia | I want ask a question about tempest test for openstack on ubuntu server | 01:23 |
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huaia | hello~??? | 01:29 |
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bitblt | does anyone have a good example of getting an auth token via API? the example in the docs does not work | 01:50 |
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csmalley | I heard about openstack and I'm hoping it's what I'm looking for. | 02:07 |
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csmalley | Can someone tell me what the Cloud Storage / Swift part does? | 02:08 |
csmalley | Is it for actually storing files? | 02:08 |
csmalley | chucks | 02:09 |
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chucks | anyone on line? | 02:09 |
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JoeJulian | chucks: swift is an object store similar to s3. It's a restful standardized api to object (can be a file such as a vm image, jpeg, video, or a text file containing a json such as are used in various nosql implementations) and it's metadata. | 02:21 |
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chucks | JoeJulian: thanks, but I have a couple more questions if you have time. | 02:22 |
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JoeJulian | I have time, but I'm still learning myself so we'll see whether or not my answers are any good. | 02:22 |
chucks | Does swift provide redundancy? | 02:22 |
JoeJulian | The way I use it it does. I'm actually using the gluster-swift-proxy that uses GlusterFS as the backend. | 02:24 |
lifeless | chucks: yes, it makes N copies of objects, where N is configurable | 02:24 |
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JoeJulian | See, stuff I didn't know yet. :D | 02:25 |
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chucks | So, I want to make a tons of files available to my website. I want something that's multinode also. | 02:29 |
chucks | So I can shutdown 1 of 5 nodes to do maintenance and stuff. | 02:29 |
chucks | Sounds a lot like elasticsearch. | 02:30 |
chucks | lifeless: Am I correct? | 02:30 |
huaia | sorry, does someone use tempest test for openstack on ubuntu server? | 02:30 |
lifeless | chucks: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-object-storage/admin/content/ch_introduction-to-openstack-object-storage.html may be useful for you | 02:33 |
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chucks | thanks lifeless, there so much to read on the site, I really appreciate being pointed in the direction. | 02:34 |
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lifeless | chucks: indeed! | 02:38 |
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troya | hi all | 03:27 |
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troya | anyone here know about pinston ? | 03:31 |
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notmyname | chucks: still around? I can give you all the info you want about swift | 04:11 |
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DaOmarN | hello | 04:16 |
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DaOmarN | i don't understand very well, how am authenticated glance with keystone? | 04:18 |
DaOmarN | which credentials i have to use? | 04:19 |
DaOmarN | the credentials of the /etc/glance/glance-api-paste.ini? | 04:20 |
DaOmarN | help me please!! | 04:20 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043630 in quantum "some policy check code for ports should be purged" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043630 | 04:42 |
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DaOmarN | keystone people help me whit glance | 05:13 |
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DaOmarN | con you help me whit a little keystone-glance problem? | 06:10 |
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troya | hi all | 06:39 |
troya | anyone here ? | 06:39 |
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JoeJulian | 447 total. | 06:39 |
AndyMillar | 446, at least one's a bot | 06:40 |
troya | Hi JoeJulian | 06:40 |
troya | Hi AndyMillar | 06:40 |
troya | i try to install openstack essex on ubuntu 12.04 | 06:41 |
troya | i following instruction from http://stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html | 06:41 |
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troya | when i input fixed range ip and float range ip i got error message like on http://pastebin.com/Pq9fJf3H | 06:41 |
troya | could you help me what is that error ? and what should i do to solve this ? | 06:42 |
AndyMillar | what command did you run? | 06:42 |
troya | i just execute shell script with contain like this http://pastebin.com/U9V8HN6H | 06:46 |
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troya | i think if i read that script, i have execute >> nova-manage network create private --fixed_range_v4=$fixed_range --num_networks=1 --bridge=br100 --bridge_interface=eth1 --network_size=$fixed_size nova-manage floating create --ip_range=$floating_range | 06:47 |
troya | where $fixed_range,fixed_size, etc is value which i input on form | 06:48 |
JoeJulian | With a valid mysql password, "1bM+7uQe6", in nova.conf I, not surprisingly, have to url encode it, "1bM%2b7uQe6" and it works fine. In glance-registry.conf it errors because ConfigParser is trying to expand the % symbol. Any idea what would cause the difference? I can't find anything obvious in the source. | 06:48 |
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troya | AnddyMillar. what do you think about it ? | 06:49 |
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troya | actually my host have ip 192.168.2.90 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.2.1 | 06:52 |
JoeJulian | troya: in that script, you never define "fixed_size" so that value will be missing on line 91. | 06:53 |
troya | ok, i will input it manually with slice of command | 06:54 |
troya | could you tell me more about fixed size ? is it same as network size ? | 06:54 |
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JoeJulian | I hope this doesn't come across as too harsh, but since you're trying to learn this you should read the script. line 91 should be a pretty obvious answer to that question. Try it out, break it, delete your mysql tables, do it again... It's a fun process. :D | 06:57 |
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troya | thanks Joe, some minuts again i will back :D | 07:02 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043659 in openstack-community "Inconsistent behavior parsing sql_connection between glance-registry.conf vs nova.conf" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043659 | 07:16 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043662 in glance "Inconsistent behavior parsing sql_connection between glance-registry.conf vs nova.conf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043662 | 07:21 |
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troya | JoeJulian: i have ip address on my host 192.168.2.90, then i want to create fixed range ip 10.0.2.32/27, is it can make connection between that ip ? | 07:25 |
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troya | hi Razique | 07:34 |
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troya | are you here ? | 07:34 |
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Razique | hey troya | 07:48 |
Razique | :) | 07:48 |
Razique | doing good | 07:48 |
Razique | what about you ? | 07:48 |
troya | Razique, i want to install openstack on single server, how i can do that ? | 07:49 |
troya | is it can ? | 07:49 |
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Razique | how do you want to install it ? | 07:49 |
Razique | manually or using a solution | 07:49 |
Razique | such a stackops ? | 07:49 |
troya | no, | 07:49 |
troya | i install it manually | 07:49 |
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troya | i following instruction from http://stackgeek.com/guides/gettingstarted.html | 07:50 |
troya | what do you think if my machine only have one network interface ? | 07:51 |
troya | i think it's can, but how i can cheat it | 07:54 |
rpawlik | troya: you may also want to take a look at this: http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/private/openstack_software/ | 07:55 |
troya | how about i create virtual eth such as eth0:1 ? | 07:56 |
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troya | rpawlik: is it can running if i only have 1 network interface? | 08:00 |
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Razique | troya yes you can | 08:06 |
troya | Razique: what do you talk about openstack, or rackspace private ? | 08:07 |
Razique | both actually | 08:07 |
troya | how to cheat on openstack installation ? | 08:07 |
Razique | choosing the interface is only a matter of configuration | 08:07 |
troya | for example ? | 08:07 |
Razique | well after the setup you should be able to tweak the configuration files | 08:07 |
Razique | well within nova.conf mainly and into the database | 08:08 |
Razique | I mean using nova-manage for the networks | 08:08 |
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Razique | you'll just have to use the same interface everywhere | 08:08 |
troya | like this >> sudo nova-manage network create private --fixed_range_v4=10.0.2.32/27 --num_networks=1 --bridge=br100 --bridge_interface=eth1 --network_size=24 | 08:08 |
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troya | Razique: on nova.conf i found both of --public_interface=eth0 --flat_interface=eth1 | 08:19 |
Razique | you will only use eth0 right ? | 08:19 |
troya | if i have only one network interface, so i should change both of them to eth0, isn't it | 08:19 |
troya | so i must change eth1 be eth0, right ? | 08:20 |
Razique | yes exactly | 08:20 |
Razique | just put eth0 everywhere | 08:20 |
Razique | but if you do that post install | 08:20 |
Razique | either reboot everything | 08:20 |
Razique | or tear down briges, kill dnsmasq/ nova service,s etc.. | 08:21 |
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foexle | morning guys | 09:36 |
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kviiri | ello | 09:47 |
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kviiri | Uh oh, tomorrow is my last day of paid OpenStacking :) | 09:52 |
koolhead17 | kviiri: :P | 09:53 |
kviiri | Now that I mentioned it | 09:53 |
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EKK | might as well join with my univ IRC client as well | 09:54 |
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amos_ | anyone 's openstack f3 's network up and run ok? | 10:05 |
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EmilienM | with QuantumV2 ? | 10:08 |
EmilienM | which plugin are you using ? | 10:08 |
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kviiri | I have essex with Quantum, working | 10:09 |
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eagles0513875_ | hey guys I am wondering can i run open stack on the same server as where I am going ot be hosting vm's? | 10:10 |
amos_ | openvswitch | 10:10 |
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eagles0513875_ | amos_: ? | 10:11 |
eagles0513875_ | thing is i am not running openstack anywhere should i be running openstack to run openvswitch | 10:11 |
amos_ | and quantum v2 | 10:12 |
eagles0513875_ | amos_: is it possible to run all this off the same machine? | 10:12 |
EKK | eagles0513875_: amos_ was replying to a previous user, not you | 10:12 |
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EKK | eagles0513875_: You'll actually need to run Nova Compute on the server where you'll have the VMs | 10:13 |
EKK | as far as I know | 10:13 |
eagles0513875_ | EKK: what about the dashboard and all that | 10:13 |
eagles0513875_ | can it run on the host where the vms will be running | 10:13 |
EKK | I don't see why not | 10:13 |
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eagles0513875_ | EKK: ok might have to give it a shot | 10:15 |
eagles0513875_ | EKK: is there any documentation on how to setup nova and openstack on ubuntu 12.04 | 10:16 |
EKK | Yes | 10:17 |
eagles0513875_ | cuz i already have ubuntu installed as the DC uses a network script to install and i sadly dont have a say as to what gets installed | 10:17 |
EKK | eagles0513875_: http://docs.openstack.org/ | 10:17 |
eagles0513875_ | EKK: question for you what is the difference between openstack and cloudstack | 10:17 |
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EKK | eagles0513875_: well, they're two different products. I don't know much about CloudStack | 10:18 |
eagles0513875_ | all i know is that it was run by citrix and now an incubator project at apache not sure the exact difference | 10:19 |
eagles0513875_ | can open stack be used for cloud computing solutions | 10:19 |
EKK | Yes | 10:19 |
eagles0513875_ | ok kool :) | 10:20 |
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amos_ | use openVswitch to manage ifaces... and how to trace data flow like tcpdump? | 10:23 |
eagles0513875_ | first thing i need to do is setup the hypervisor im going ot be using correct? | 10:24 |
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eagles0513875_ | or will openstack ask me which hypervisor i want to use? | 10:24 |
Jules_ | hey guys | 10:24 |
EKK | eagles0513875_: Configuration files | 10:27 |
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eagles0513875_ | EKK: you mean setup the networking via the appropriate hypervisor config files correct? | 10:27 |
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Jules_ | anybody ever had problems that the vm's not getting their dhcp ip? all i see in log is: dnsmasq-dhcp[5021]: DHCPDISCOVER(br100) fa:16:3e:xx:xx:xx no address available | 10:28 |
EKK | eagles0513875_: I mean that the hypervisor used is specifid in the conf files | 10:28 |
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eagles0513875_ | ahh ok :) nice | 10:29 |
empiric | hi | 10:29 |
eagles0513875_ | hi empiric | 10:29 |
eagles0513875_ | then in that case time to reinstall my server | 10:29 |
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empiric | guys i want to start with open stack how can i , i have vmware workstation i doenlosd ubuntu based openstack iso | 10:29 |
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eagles0513875_ | empiric: i have the perfect documentation for you as i am installing it directly on my dedicated | 10:30 |
empiric | can u share plz | 10:30 |
eagles0513875_ | empiric: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/ | 10:30 |
empiric | i am assuming its like vmware esxi ,, the openstack iso | 10:31 |
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empiric | and ill install it in vm and then launch multiple vms in it | 10:31 |
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eagles0513875_ | you cant virtualize something that is already virtualized though | 10:31 |
eagles0513875_ | correct me if you can anyone else | 10:31 |
EKK | You can run VMs in VMs, but at some point it'll get just silly | 10:32 |
eagles0513875_ | agreed | 10:33 |
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EKK | A friend of mine did this on a less commercial scale - he had a VirtualBox, inside it he had a Linux Machine, on which he ran a Windows-only NES-emulator using WINE | 10:35 |
EKK | Performance wasn't exactly A+ | 10:35 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043746 in quantum "lack of L3 support of ryu plugin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043746 | 10:36 |
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empiric | eagles0513875 i need to have all things nova ,swifT, glance in 1 one to test things or what is the design it should be seperate | 10:41 |
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myz | Hi everyone :) When I use the command 'nova boot' there is a commandline option '---availability_zone-'. I woulder what is it good for?? and thanks in advance | 10:42 |
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Jules_ | anybody ever had problems that the vm's not getting their dhcp ip? all i see in log is: dnsmasq-dhcp[5021]: DHCPDISCOVER(br100) fa:16:3e:xx:xx:xx no address available? | 10:50 |
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eagles0513875_ | empiric: im setting up openstack on my host machine which will be running xen virtualization thenwill host the vms on the same machine | 10:52 |
empiric | hmmmmm | 10:54 |
empiric | why xen | 10:54 |
empiric | i thin openstack is framewrk just like vmware ESXi | 10:54 |
bluenemo | moin guys, i need a little help, i guess i set up the stuff correctly according to the ubuntu 12.04 pdf guide, however my syspanel is now giving me internal server error and apache error log says: No handlers could be found for logger "openstack_dashboard" what logfile can i look into to get more information about the application (dashboard)? | 10:55 |
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eagles0513875_ | empiric: xen is just another hypervisor | 10:55 |
eagles0513875_ | openstack: will work with guests on any hypervisor be it esxi xen kvm etc | 10:56 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043758 in keystone "RBAC policy definition is not utilized by default (policy.json)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043758 | 11:06 |
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empiric | guys how can i start with openstack | 11:11 |
empiric | any idea | 11:11 |
empiric | i am confused i downlaod openstack iso | 11:11 |
koolhead17 | empiric: what is confusing you? | 11:11 |
empiric | and i am trying to install in it vm inside vmware worksration but it hangs | 11:11 |
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empiric | wht is openstack i paltform just like vmware ESXI an OS that need to be install on server itself then all are controlled by vcenter and create vms inside that ESXi hosts | 11:12 |
empiric | through vcenter | 11:12 |
empiric | how open stack works | 11:13 |
empiric | similar? | 11:13 |
koolhead17 | empiric: where you able to get any documentation about openstack ? | 11:13 |
empiric | yes reading http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/starter/content/Functions_and_Features-d1e132.html | 11:14 |
koolhead17 | empiric: cool. spend some time, finish the doc and then proceed for deployment. | 11:15 |
koolhead17 | it will make everything less painful :P | 11:15 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1043760 in cinder "Service does not start if volumes exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043760 | 11:16 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043764 in nova "RPC timeout when trying to delete VM on FlatDHCP multi host setup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043764 | 11:26 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1043765 in nova "Quota reservation not rolled back if security group create fails" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043765 | 11:26 |
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empiric | koolhead17 from where i start | 11:45 |
EKK | empiric: Reading the docs is a good start | 11:46 |
koolhead17 | empiric: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/what-is-openstack.html | 11:46 |
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kviiri | I think I should part with this client now, annoying to get the same chat in two different windows :) | 11:49 |
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NuxRo | Hello, for how long is openstack supported for security issues? | 11:53 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043779 in cinder "Snapshot in error state stays in 'deleting' status " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043779 | 12:01 |
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noob2 | morning everyone! i need a hand with debugging why my vnc console is broken. | 12:11 |
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noob2 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/20578/ is what i see in the logs | 12:11 |
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noob2 | it just times out when i try to connect | 12:12 |
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noob2 | the server it's trying to connect to is listening properly | 12:15 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043793 in tempest "Quantum tests do not target v2.0 api" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043793 | 12:41 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043796 in nova "Number of ARPs sent for floating IP assignment needs to be configurable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043796 | 12:45 |
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annegentle | empiric: still around? If it's the Rackspace ISO I never could get it to work within a VM on my Mac, it's intended for real hardware. That said, here are specific instructions that are tested http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/installing-rackspace-private-cloud-vmware-fusion | 12:55 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043827 in nova "quantum allocate_for_instance() returns non-related subnet info for a port on a network without subnet" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043827 | 13:31 |
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EKK | http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Guest_won%27t_start_-_warning:_could_not_open_/dev/net/tun_%28%27generic_ethernet%27_interface%29 | 13:37 |
EKK | "Since each of these steps is significantly decreasing security protections of the host against qemu guest domains, you should only do it if there is no alternative to using <interface type='ethernet'> " | 13:37 |
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EKK | What types of security threats will these modifications cause? Could someone summarize? | 13:37 |
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Razique | hi guys! | 13:44 |
Razique | I have the hard time using the multi_host mode | 13:44 |
Razique | the instance is not reachable from another server the one it's running on | 13:44 |
Razique | (via its floating ip | 13:44 |
Razique | (vlan mode btw - vlan works well when I'm not using the multi_host mode) | 13:45 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1033934 in horizon "Attempting to change regions in the dashboard does not display correctly" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033934 | 13:46 |
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zhuxuegang | any good idear to learn and test openvswitch...? | 14:14 |
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GMI | Razique: can you provide more info? is traffic reaching the compute node where the floating IP is bound? security-groups are ok? | 14:18 |
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Razique | Hi GMI : yes secgroup is good (tcp + icmp) | 14:19 |
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Razique | and the floating ip get assigned to the instance, from the node that last is reachable | 14:19 |
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Razique | in fact, more weird, when I delete the pre-routing rule, the floating ip is reachable from another node | 14:19 |
GMI | Razique: how about a tcpdump on the compute node when you ping the floating ip from outside? is the traffic reaching the compute node at all? | 14:20 |
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Razique | now when the pre-routing rule is created (floating ip to the instance) it gets unreachable | 14:20 |
Razique | GMI it does | 14:20 |
Razique | tcdpump shows the packet | 14:21 |
Razique | but somehow the routing seems uncorrect | 14:21 |
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Razique | there is not any return packet, explaining why instances are not reachable from another node | 14:21 |
GMI | Razique: how about a tcpdump from inside the instance? | 14:22 |
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Razique | GMI : unfortunately I can't, since the instance doesn't have tcpdump installed | 14:23 |
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Razique | and since it cannot reach the outside | 14:23 |
Razique | i'll try another image | 14:23 |
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GMI | Razique: so the instance cannot even reach outside? does it have an IP address and its gateway is the bridge's IP address? does it have an ARP for it? | 14:25 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043861 in nova "Pause/Unpause instance should generate a notification in "notification.info"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043861 | 14:26 |
Razique | GMI yes it does have all the parameters (ip and gateway being the one dnsmasq hold for that vlan) | 14:26 |
Razique | and it can ping the gateway | 14:26 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1032633 in keystone "Keystone's token table grows unconditionally when using SQL backend." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032633 | 14:27 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1039077 in horizon/essex "open redirect / phishing attack via "next" parameter" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039077 | 14:27 |
Razique | GMI I recall a mail I saw on the ML regarding a guy who had to delete the default route on the node | 14:27 |
Razique | ah there | 14:28 |
Razique | http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack@lists.launchpad.net/msg13788.html | 14:28 |
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bluenemo | there was a way to get the user-id via keystone user-list only, without the --- stuff around it (for scripting) via python -c something. how was that again :) ? | 14:31 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1040626 in keystone/essex "Update user's default tenant partially succeeds without authz" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040626 | 14:31 |
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Razique | mmmm no lucj | 14:31 |
Razique | luck | 14:31 |
GMI | Razique: can the compute node reach the Internet? | 14:33 |
Razique | yes :) | 14:33 |
Razique | what kills me is once both pre/post routing rules are created | 14:35 |
Razique | then the floating ip is not reachable | 14:35 |
Razique | when it's up and assigned to the compute node without the iptables rules, it's working | 14:35 |
Razique | and when I ssh to the instance from the node using the floating ip, it's also working | 14:36 |
Razique | very confusing :D | 14:36 |
Razique | i'll check the routing table on the node | 14:37 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043874 in devstack "http://devstack.org/stack.sh.html unreadable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043874 | 14:41 |
bluenemo | how can i list the user-id of say 'admin' ONLY so i can script with it? like keystone user-list only that i can specify what i want exactly | 14:43 |
Razique | bluenemo : what do you mean ? | 14:43 |
Razique | like having only 'admin' output ? | 14:43 |
bluenemo | for example Razique i have for keystone user-list one row of: | 58e78c3eae394265a047072b3f6b699b | True | admin@foobar.com | admin, however i want it to ONLY show the id so that i can use that for scripts. i want something like keystone user-list --name admin | 14:44 |
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bluenemo | i would not have a problem with python -c "something" but my python is not exactly good and i need a first working hint; if possible :) | 14:46 |
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Razique | bluenemo = $ keystone user-get $admin_id | 14:47 |
Razique | otherwise, dirty way via a sql query | 14:48 |
Razique | select id from user where name ="admin" | 14:48 |
Razique | dirtier way : keystone user-list | grep admin | cut -f 2 -d " " | 14:50 |
bluenemo | yesterday some guy posted me a python -c "some strange stuff" command, basicly a small python script that actually was supposed to give only the id, i'm sure its possible, however i destroyed my apt dependencies old school a few hours ago and re setup my testing machine, so i've sadly lost it :/ i thought about sql query as well but i think its a bit hacky | 14:50 |
bluenemo | yeah or that :/ | 14:50 |
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bluenemo | maybe an idea for future implementations of keystone ;) not meant offensive, i love openstack as far as i've worked with it :0 | 14:51 |
bluenemo | :) | 14:51 |
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Razique | bluenemo : that's an excellent suggestion | 14:55 |
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Razique | I quickly looked for such, but looks like there is not any official way to retrieve the ID | 14:56 |
bluenemo | i'd love to implement it but my python is basicly not present m) i think especially for automated setup scripts (as i'm currenlty writing one in bash) that would be quite awesome | 14:56 |
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Razique | now that we think of that, keystone cli does perform query to the database for such info - so it's no biggy to query it directly I'd say | 14:56 |
bluenemo | i thought so too yes. | 14:57 |
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bluenemo | another question besides; do you prefer to get openstack in production usage from apt in debian / ubuntu or do you prefer to compile the latest stable? | 14:57 |
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vachon | bluenemo: apt | 14:58 |
vachon | easier rolling upgrades | 14:59 |
Razique | what vachon said :) | 14:59 |
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bluenemo | do you use ubuntu 12 or debian stable? | 15:00 |
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vachon | debian stable is too old | 15:00 |
vachon | you would have to use debian testing | 15:00 |
bluenemo | problem with debian is that its so dam old :/ i'm currently testing around on ubuntu 12 but i'm near tears when i think that i'd have to use it for production stuff.. | 15:00 |
vachon | and the overall problem with debian is, they are packaging essex for testing | 15:00 |
bluenemo | ah m( | 15:00 |
vachon | by the time its out, you will be 2 releases behind | 15:00 |
bluenemo | yes | 15:00 |
bluenemo | i know the feeling ;) | 15:00 |
vachon | go with 12.04, but that being said, what the hell out for bonding + 12.04 guests | 15:01 |
vachon | so very broken right now | 15:01 |
bluenemo | sry i dont get all after what the hell :D | 15:01 |
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bluenemo | you mean the 12.04 version one gets via apt is not stable? | 15:02 |
vachon | its stable | 15:02 |
vachon | but DO NOT run 12.04 as your guest | 15:02 |
vachon | 10.04LTS is the only stable ubuntu guest right now | 15:02 |
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vachon | 12.04 is a fine bare metal host | 15:03 |
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bluenemo | ah ok. may i ask why? isnt it (veeeeery basicly) just kvm some-12-image.iso or so..? | 15:03 |
vachon | its a QEMU bug | 15:03 |
bluenemo | or what more exactly is the problem? | 15:03 |
bluenemo | that you cant run 12 on 12? | 15:04 |
vachon | they are basically faking out the dhcp checksum and its not working | 15:04 |
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vachon | there is appa unstable fix, but its only been out a week, needs at least 3 before ill touch it | 15:04 |
Razique | what's wrong about using ubuntu 12.04 in production | 15:04 |
bluenemo | ah ok i c. strange. i just did a heavy remaster of the 12.04 iso with heavy testing usage of kvm, never had the issue | 15:04 |
vachon | *a ppa | 15:04 |
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bluenemo | however i'll only host debian stable so no problem fo rme :) | 15:04 |
vachon | Razique: nothing as long as you have less than 2 mbit worth of traffic to your guests at all times | 15:04 |
vachon | yup, no issues there | 15:04 |
bluenemo | Razique, ubuntu scares me ;) i'm an ooold debianer ;) | 15:05 |
Razique | vachon haha :p | 15:05 |
vachon | Razique: install casssandra, run stress.py | 15:05 |
vachon | watch the instances just stop responding | 15:05 |
vachon | its that reproducable | 15:05 |
bluenemo | hehe ;) | 15:05 |
Razique | vachon :D | 15:05 |
Razique | I had as issues with Debian as I had with Ubuntu | 15:06 |
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Razique | I think frankly both are quite good OS | 15:06 |
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bluenemo | Razique, yes totally. but i dont like the newest in production (not always..) | 15:06 |
vachon | they both are, but the QEMU team are IDIOTS for doing what they did | 15:06 |
Razique | I'm not pro OS actually | 15:06 |
Razique | as long as it does the job you know :) | 15:06 |
Razique | vachon : now this is one another debate, but yes, I know what you mean | 15:07 |
Razique | let's say "dev streams" are not the same when it comes to OS | 15:07 |
bluenemo | yes. you are right. when you take a minimal linux distri and keep it minimal, its basicly the same. even though, i can sleep way better at night with debian running my stuff ;) it just doesnt disappoint me. dont have that trust in ubuntu.. | 15:07 |
Razique | but lot of politics often involved I think | 15:07 |
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vachon | yea, it was a dumb patch to a non-existant problem | 15:07 |
bluenemo | next thing that is very important to me if i use sth a lot: the irc. i think #ubuntu is one of the worst channels.. compared to #debian on OFTC, only noob questions and mostly only noob or no answers. i dont like that. | 15:07 |
vachon | and now its dependant on them removing it, or isc releasing sometime in the next year | 15:08 |
vachon | which isnt isc's release cycle | 15:08 |
Razique | bluenemo : the counterpart being you have more ressources on the net | 15:08 |
bluenemo | ? | 15:08 |
Razique | vachon : I second taht | 15:08 |
Razique | bluenemo I mean there are plethora ressources on ubuntu on the net | 15:08 |
Razique | I slept with google more than once | 15:09 |
bluenemo | ah. hm. well i've actually never noticed ;) | 15:09 |
bluenemo | rofl :D | 15:09 |
Razique | so it's not that biggy if the Ubuntu IRC doesn't suit you :) | 15:09 |
Razique | vachon : thanks for the stress.py good ressource to try | 15:09 |
bluenemo | well yeah but i just prefer irc.. i of course google at least 5 min before i ask.. but if so i much more like to emediately see professional admins answering.. thats VERY often the case in #debian.. not so in ubuntu imho | 15:10 |
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Razique | ok - I don't know I never use IRC appart OPS one ^^ | 15:10 |
bluenemo | this channel for example is a nice example for a working chan :) | 15:10 |
bluenemo | OPS one? | 15:10 |
vachon | that being said | 15:11 |
Razique | that one | 15:11 |
Razique | OpenStack ^^ | 15:11 |
bluenemo | ah lol ;) | 15:11 |
vachon | the openstack-operators mailing list is faaaaanntastic | 15:11 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1043886 in nova "Firewall rules are not updated if you restart nova-compute" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043886 | 15:11 |
vachon | best list ever | 15:11 |
bluenemo | i'm using it quite a lot, i'm in every chan of projects i use in production | 15:11 |
bluenemo | quite handy imho :) | 15:11 |
vachon | i am too, sadly, im getting to expert instead of beginner in everything, so i answer now | 15:11 |
vachon | and people expect my presense | 15:12 |
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Razique | vachon : haha | 15:12 |
Razique | That's good then | 15:13 |
Razique | knowledge is like money - never good to keep it in the pocket | 15:13 |
vachon | well it got me a book deal | 15:13 |
vachon | im not arguing | 15:13 |
bluenemo | hehe :) well thats good isnt it? i also like answering, helps you keep stuff in mind and rethink. if i get a good answer in a chan and i have time and the needed knowledge, i often try to answer 3 back | 15:13 |
bluenemo | vachon, what kind of book? | 15:13 |
p3n74D4v1d | my nova-manage service doesn't show any service just empty "table" | 15:13 |
Razique | I mostly focus on writing the official doc | 15:13 |
p3n74D4v1d | and the log files don't show any error | 15:14 |
vachon | kickstarter for sysadmins on puppet | 15:14 |
Razique | vachon : that's fantastic :) | 15:14 |
p3n74D4v1d | what could be the issue | 15:14 |
vachon | p3n74D4v1d: rabbit-mq? | 15:14 |
vachon | anything in your services table in mysql | 15:14 |
p3n74D4v1d | nothing | 15:14 |
p3n74D4v1d | the table is empty | 15:14 |
bluenemo | Razique, cool. i'm flying over the ubuntu guide, its so dam well written! thank you very much! | 15:14 |
p3n74D4v1d | and rabbit-mq is started | 15:15 |
Razique | bluenemo : the ubuntu guide has been written by CSSCorp guys | 15:15 |
Razique | yah they did an outstanding job for that | 15:15 |
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bluenemo | ah ok. just btw are there already any complete - test setup scripts for ubuntu 12? like install.sh and then one can access the syspanel? | 15:15 |
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p3n74D4v1d | vachon : any idea | 15:17 |
p3n74D4v1d | ? | 15:17 |
vachon | not really, sql connections come to mind | 15:18 |
vachon | something cant talk | 15:18 |
Razique | time to go home | 15:18 |
p3n74D4v1d | the point is the log files don't show any error | 15:18 |
Razique | cya guys :) | 15:18 |
p3n74D4v1d | c ya | 15:18 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043905 in nova "instance fails to terminate (XAPI)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043905 | 15:51 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1043906 in python-novaclient "Doc string and string formatting errors on floating ip" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043906 | 15:51 |
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yocum | I have a question - what's the dhcpbridge_flagfile and why, in some installations, I see that it's set to /etc/nova/nova.conf and in others I see it set to /etc/nova/nova-dhcpbridge.conf | 16:04 |
yocum | I mean, it's an option set *in* nova.conf, so why would it reference itself? | 16:04 |
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myz | yocum: Join my voice to you :) | 16:05 |
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yocum | myz: heh. pretty soon we'll have a dhcpbridge_flagfile revolution on our hands. | 16:07 |
myz | yocum: LOL | 16:08 |
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myz | yocum: I've another thing in my mind regarding nova configuration; The normal installation of nova would be a controller + many compute nodes | 16:10 |
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yocum | myz: revolutions have been started over less, I'm sure. To wit: big-endian vs. little-endian. | 16:11 |
yocum | myz: well, unless you just wanted to get an idea of how it works and you only have 1 machine... | 16:11 |
yocum | but, yes, a normal production system will have a controller and a number of compute nodes | 16:11 |
myz | yocum: Why aren't the configuration files of the controller and the compute nodes diffrentiated?? | 16:12 |
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myz | yocum: I mean, in the tutorials they says, write the configuration file and copy it along your compute nodes!! and in the mean time, there is a configuration file called nova-compute.conf on the compute nodes!! | 16:13 |
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yocum | myz: it's supposed to make it easy. I'll be honest - I haven't looked at the format of the nova-compute.conf file, yet. I'm hung up on networking, in general. I am not an expert on OpenStack. | 16:15 |
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yocum | myz: however, on LVS and heartbeat systems, the config files MUST be the same between the primary and secondary nodes | 16:15 |
myz | yocum: Ok, what is your problem in networking, may be I can help | 16:15 |
yocum | to make sure that everyone knows who is who | 16:16 |
yocum | myz: I think I've got it figured out, I'm just wading through the conf files, now. | 16:16 |
myz | yocum: Yes, may be that is the reason, you are right | 16:16 |
yocum | s/files/file/ | 16:16 |
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yocum | I'm doing option #1 from this page, basically: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/existing-ha-networking-options.html | 16:16 |
yocum | I come from OpenNebula-land, where the network bridges need to be set up manually before OpenNebula gets installed. That threw me for a loop | 16:17 |
yocum | 'cause apparently OpenStack doesn't want that | 16:17 |
yocum | OpenNebula's networking is far simpler than OpenStack. | 16:18 |
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yocum | OpenNebula doesn't have this concept of separated traffic and an internal network between the VMs | 16:18 |
myz | In the controller node you should create the bridge br100 'or what ever you like it to be' manually | 16:19 |
myz | but in te compute node it will start automatically | 16:19 |
yocum | hm, that's not what derekh is telling me... | 16:19 |
yocum | he says that all physical systems shouldn't have any bridge devices configured, and to let OpenStack manage them all | 16:20 |
vachon | yocum++ | 16:20 |
vachon | everything should be setup, but IP'less | 16:21 |
vachon | except your "admin" net | 16:21 |
myz | Yes, but in case the controller restarted, the bridge will not start automatically | 16:21 |
vachon | myz: never seen that, but then again, i don't run nova-network on the controller | 16:21 |
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vachon | no need to | 16:21 |
myz | vachon: How your setup is done | 16:22 |
vachon | 2 "backends/controllers", 5 computs | 16:22 |
yocum | vachon: how do the VM images get from glance (on my controller) to the compute nodes, then? | 16:22 |
vachon | they go over the "admin" net | 16:22 |
vachon | not the VM net | 16:22 |
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vachon | so my contoller is 192.168.1.10 | 16:23 |
vachon | a compute could be 192.168.1.11 | 16:23 |
yocum | oh, so not over the openstack, internal network... | 16:23 |
vachon | thats how it talks to flance | 16:23 |
vachon | yes | 16:23 |
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yocum | ah | 16:23 |
vachon | say way it talks to mysql or rabbitmq | 16:23 |
vachon | *same | 16:23 |
yocum | vachon: so, here's the next question - I have also have a public network, and I want users to be able to get to the dashboard from the public network. | 16:24 |
vachon | firewalls are your friend | 16:24 |
yocum | would I set up the public nic to be on a bridge device or on the physical device (eth0)? | 16:24 |
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yocum | i.e., I want that public IP to come up when the system reboots... | 16:25 |
myz | vachon: You have two controllers in the backend; what openstack components each one of them have?? | 16:26 |
vachon | yocum: eth0 | 16:26 |
vachon | but i would put a hardware firewall in front | 16:26 |
vachon | and NAT | 16:26 |
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vachon | myz: one runs most of the things, the other is a mysql slave and volumes manager | 16:26 |
vachon | which uses san.py to hand out stuff form my san | 16:27 |
vachon | lunch, bbl | 16:27 |
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myz | vachon: what about nova-network, where is it installed?? | 16:27 |
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stacking | noob question but can someone explain what ephemeral disk is used for? | 16:28 |
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yocum | stacking: scratch disk, you can attach it to a VM then take it away. It won't be there the next time you reboot the VM. | 16:29 |
yocum | stacking: or, rather, the data won't be there the next time you reboot | 16:30 |
stacking | yocum:ohhh doy that makes alot of sense thanks | 16:30 |
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yocum | stacking: np. | 16:31 |
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yocum | myz: nova-network will only be on the compute nodes | 16:31 |
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myz | yocum: Have you practised any solution related to failover scenarios to the cloud controller?? I mean if that controller failed, everything in the cloud is meaningless | 16:33 |
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yocum | myz: no, not yet. | 16:37 |
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yocum | I think it would be pretty simple to set up, though. Use mysql multi-master replication for the DB and either have LVS in front of a set of controller nodes, or have an active-passive (heartbeat) set up. | 16:38 |
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myz | yocum: I recommend you to have a look at pacemaker | 16:39 |
myz | yocum: It is a great clustering tool | 16:40 |
yocum | I am old skool | 16:40 |
yocum | ;-) | 16:40 |
myz | yocum: Is Openstack capable to be public service, like service provider, or it is not there yet? | 16:40 |
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yocum | myz: good grief, I hope it's capable, but I don't completely know. | 16:52 |
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GMI | stacking: actually, ephemeral disk are lost only when you terminate the instance, rebooting the instance doesn't make you loose that data stored on the ephemeral disk attached, but the root disk and any additional ephemeral disks are usually located on the compute node and not guarranteed to survive failure (cheap hardware, possible without RAID, etc) | 16:52 |
yocum | myz: I'm making our available to our people via the public IPs, but not to the world at large. | 16:53 |
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myz | yocum: Who do You refer to by 'our people'? | 16:54 |
stacking | GMI: ahh so rebooting inside the os of the instance won't cause loss the ephemeral disks to be lost. Yeah I'm going to setup raid most in the future right now I'm just creating custom images. | 16:55 |
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stacking | GMI: thanks for the clarification | 16:55 |
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GMI | stacking: welcome | 16:56 |
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Ish_ | Hello friends , I want to know in which language can we contribute to OpenStack ? | 17:04 |
bluenemo | ok i resetup from scratch but i cant get rid of No handlers could be found for logger "openstack_dashboard" in apache2 error log :( | 17:04 |
yocum | myz: our internal developers and sales people doing on-site sales demos... | 17:05 |
yocum | Ish_: COBOL. | 17:05 |
yocum | Ish_: I kid! | 17:05 |
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Ish_ | Is there any work on C++ ? | 17:05 |
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Ish_ | yocum , is there any work on c++ ? | 17:07 |
yocum | myz: I work on the OpenShift team at Red Hat. | 17:07 |
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Ish_ | great | 17:08 |
yocum | Ish_: I don't know - I was being funny. ;-) I was going to follow up with a suggestion to translate the docs into Icelandic, too. ;-) | 17:08 |
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Ish_ | :P | 17:08 |
yocum | hehehe | 17:08 |
yocum | Ish_: the best thing to do is just download the source and dig in. | 17:09 |
yocum | see if there's anything that piques your interest | 17:09 |
Ish_ | okay | 17:09 |
Ish_ | sure ! | 17:09 |
Ish_ | Right now I don't know much about Openstack | 17:09 |
yocum | Ish_: and seriously, if you want to work on documentation, I'm sure just about everyone here would love that! | 17:09 |
yocum | I know I would | 17:10 |
Ish_ | I would like to code ! | 17:10 |
Ish_ | <yocum> which language do you work upon ? | 17:12 |
yocum | Ish_: I'm a systems guy, not a developer. I avoid programming as much as possible. bash, ruby, perl, python, in that order. | 17:13 |
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Ish_ | okay | 17:13 |
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Ish_ | Nice talking to you yocum , I have to leave now , bbye ! | 17:14 |
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stacking | yocum: have you made any custom images? | 17:18 |
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myz | stacking: You can download AWS image, run it on a KVM server, install what ever applications you like, then upload the image back to glance | 17:23 |
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stacking | myz: Thanks, I think we will try that as creating the custom image for linux is driving us crazy three days we've been at it finally tried windows server yesterday got it to work first try | 17:24 |
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myz | stacking: Good job :) | 17:25 |
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Slower | is it possible to add an existing user to another tenant (and have multiple tenants per user) in keystone? | 18:03 |
Slower | I see in the db it appears possible but I can't find the option using the command line tool | 18:03 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043952 in cinder "Invalid GB computation in bootable volume" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043952 | 18:06 |
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GMI | Slower: you can give a user the desired role in more than one tenant | 18:11 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1043980 in tempest "Quantum smoke tests do not target running VMs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043980 | 18:11 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043935 in openstack-manuals "Document template substitution in config file values" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043935 | 18:12 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1043999 in nova "nova usage-list returns wrong usage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1043999 | 18:51 |
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Dwight_K_Schrute | Can anyone here take a look at my instance logs? I just installed StackOps and launched a few instances, but they are unable to reach the internet, and I am unable to ssh or ping to them. I have created seclists and allowed both protocols from all IPs and I have ran nova list and all instances seem to have the correct IPs. | 19:00 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044004 in nova "zmq RPC driver errors: AttributeError: 'Context' object has no attribute 'destroy'" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044004 | 19:01 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044008 in nova "Incorrect image metadata sent in notification on rebuild" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044008 | 19:05 |
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Slower | GMI: ok cool thx! | 19:07 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044027 in horizon "VM shutoff status should not have a in-progress bar" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044027 | 19:31 |
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stacking | Anyone used preinstalled images from UEC am I understanding this wrong. I download the tar.gz then untar and then add the .img file to glance and then I should be able to create an instance? Correct? | 19:45 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1044032 in keystone "Trying to auth with a bad request reply with a KeyError" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044032 | 19:46 |
kbringard | stacking: you need to add the kernel and ramdisk as well | 19:47 |
kbringard | then either set the kernel and ramdisk as the default for the image, or specify —kernel_id and —ramdisk_id in euca when you launch the image | 19:47 |
stacking | kbringard: I will give that a try thanks | 19:48 |
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yocum | stacking: I've made tons of custom VMs in my day. Nothing specific for OpenStack though. As long as it's a qcow2 image, it should work. Just use virt-manager or virt-install. | 19:57 |
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kbringard | yea, if you build your own with /boot in the image you won't need to "link" it to a kernel/ramdisk | 19:58 |
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kbringard | but the images from uec don't have /boot in the base image, iirc | 19:58 |
stacking | yocum: I think that was my first mistake I used raw. I followed the directions word for word though http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/creating-a-linux-image.html | 19:58 |
yocum | stacking: what OS/distro? | 19:59 |
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stacking | I used the ubuntu 12.04 server | 19:59 |
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stacking | precise | 19:59 |
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stacking | exactly as they detailed in the document for creating a linux image | 19:59 |
yocum | stacking: hm. my background is specifically Red Hat. | 20:00 |
stacking | it installs fine but then when I relaunch it says there is no boot | 20:00 |
yocum | ah, could be a partitioning problem | 20:00 |
stacking | The document says create a single partition mounted on / | 20:00 |
stacking | Yeah I think the problem is partitioning I must be dummying up somewhere | 20:01 |
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yocum | try to mount it manually | 20:01 |
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yocum | losetup and all that | 20:01 |
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yocum | stacking: or you could come over to Red Hat. :-D | 20:02 |
yocum | use Fedora | 20:02 |
stacking | lol well Fedora /Cent Os is on my list | 20:02 |
stacking | that is my next challenge after ubuntu | 20:02 |
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stacking | yocum: The openstack cluster is being used at a college as a learning platform for cloud computing so we are creating images of each major distribution | 20:03 |
stacking | yocum: I'll go do the manual mounting | 20:04 |
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Dwight_K_Schrute | Anyone here successfully deployed a StackOps installation? | 20:09 |
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rnirmal | anyone have any ideas why auto_disk_config is failing with xenapi http://paste.openstack.org/show/C5RYM2FS5CoSRgU0kjrh/ | 20:24 |
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rnirmal | this is with Essex and I have the glance image set as auto_disk_config=1 to resize the filesystem on instances startup | 20:25 |
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stacking | what is a bucket? and how do I figure out what the name of my bucket is ? | 20:39 |
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stacking | I see it associated with amazon secret key but I don't think I have one since our openstack isn't connected to amazon | 20:40 |
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stacking | since it is storage based perhaps I created a bucket with swift | 20:41 |
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nightcrawler786 | is it possible to have a read only dashboard user? If so could someone point me in the right direction | 20:57 |
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Ryan_Lane | is there any reason that my services are constantly available and unavailable? | 21:19 |
Ryan_Lane | from nova-manage service list's perspective? | 21:19 |
Ryan_Lane | occasionally all of my compute nodes will show as down for a short period of time and it causes instance creation to fail | 21:20 |
Ryan_Lane | it's driving me insane | 21:20 |
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Ryan_Lane | is there a checkin-timeout or something that I don't have properly set? | 21:20 |
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nightcrawler786 | is it possible to have a read only dashboard user? | 21:26 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044083 in quantum "rootwrap filter for ip netns exec" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044083 | 22:15 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1044084 in quantum "devstack support for quantum rootwrap" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044084 | 22:15 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044085 in quantum "automated test to detect missing rootwrap filters" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044085 | 22:21 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044090 in nova "cleaning up an LXC instance fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044090 | 22:26 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044103 in nova "need instanceId, instanceName and auto_assigned in the payload of _associate_floating_ip() " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044103 | 22:56 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044108 in nova "floating_ip_get_by_address() should return a valid ip that "deleted" is False" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044108 | 23:06 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044113 in quantum "mangle network namespace used for dhcp " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044113 | 23:26 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044119 in glance "glance-control <service> reload prints traceback" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044119 | 23:46 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1044127 in glance "v2 api displays deleted image properties" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044127 | 23:56 |
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