Saturday, 2012-09-01

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binyaminWhen I execute " nova image-list " I'm getting " Could not find any suitable endpoint. Correct region? " But the endpoints and the region have been specified into shell environ variables. And Keystone looks correct.00:32
binyaminIs there anyway to find all all the information for a specific service such as nova?00:33
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atriusanyone around?03:21
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044664 in nova "nova show returns wrong hypervisor_hostname" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104466409:26
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shatskyGreetings. I'm developing an open-source CMS with Django, and I host my source on GitHub. How can I configure an environment to be able both to push application to OpenStack as well as just push Django project source to GitHub repo? I. e. something like "git push openstack" to deploy everything to OpenStack and "git push github" to push ./wsgi/openshift/ subdirectory to GitHub repo root...12:36
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uvirtbotNew bug: #1044695 in keystone "missing git tag for keystoneclient 0.1.2" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104469512:41
funnyboy243How recently?  Do you have any conditions I should know about? Like Ass Burgers?12:41
shatskyIs 0.5 msg/min a real message rate here, or something wrong with my IRC client config so I can't see you ppl speaking intensively?12:44
funnyboy243Do you know if  0 point 5 msg min a real message rate here or something wrong with my IRC client config so I can not see you ppl speaking intensively?12:44
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shatskyfunnyboy243, Was that 'how native English-speakers would say that' reply or what?12:46
funnyboy243Yeah.  When was this exactly?12:46
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NuxRoHi, how do I forcefully terminate an instance? From the dashboard it never happens because of some network errors.14:08
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Spirilisfrom the cli it's "nova delete"15:44
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Spirilismight wan to check out what those network errors are though.15:44
Spirilispeek the nova-compute.log file on the hypervisor housing the VM15:45
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cdDoes anyone have a rough draft reference architecture for folsom?  I'm after recomendations for hardware as well as recomended network topologies for the provider network.16:54
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cdThe documented best practice for swift is a minimum of 5 zones - does anyone have any insight into starting with a single chassis with 5 zones and scaling that cluster into multiple zones across multiple chassis and then further scaling the cluster into multiple facilities (geographically)?20:02
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jeremybcd: you can't have at least 3-4 machines to start?20:12
cdfor production yes - i guess i'm just trying to conceptualize how to scale20:16
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jeremybwell for development i guess you don't have to care20:27
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cdso is there a limit to the number of zones in a cluster? does having more than 5 affect performance?20:31
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jeremybcd: errr, i guess not really but i'm not sure20:39
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jeremybcd: what's the reason to have more?20:40
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jeremybcd: each replica of an object goes to a different zone. so your zones should be tied to real world physical differences between components. (e.g. different spindles or different machines or even different datacenters)20:41
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notmynamecd: jeremyb: you can start with only one box and a few drives and swift will work. a prod setup will have multiple zones20:41
jeremybnotmyname: i meant more than 5 zones20:41
notmynamecd: jeremyb: those docs are a little dated (but not wholly incorrect). swift will put replicas in as uniquely as possible. so it will try for another zone and if that won't work it will try another server in an already used zone20:42
jeremybright20:42
jeremybi was going from memory not docs ;)20:43
notmynamecd: there is no limit to the number of zones in a cluster20:43
zcd: what he means is the limit is high enough you are unlikely to hit it ;)20:43
jeremybnotmyname: he asked about perf. it would just effect the ring builder but not ring consumers?20:43
notmynamejeremyb: the unique-as-possible is relatively new to swift (last 6 months-ish). previously it only put replicas in unique zones and therefore required at least 3 zones20:43
jeremybnotmyname: cool20:44
jeremybor do ring consumers know about zones?20:44
jeremybi guess maybe in this new world20:44
notmynamejeremyb: not directly (and they never did directly). the ring consumers (ie proxy, object, etc) ask the ring instance for the replicas. it doesn't really pay attention to zones20:45
notmynamezones affect the placement of partitions in the ring, and so are only directly known by the ring builder20:46
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jeremybnotmyname: so i ask for replicas for a given partition and what do i get back?20:47
notmynamez: cd: no, there is no performance impact or limit of any kind to the number of zones you have. it's simply not in the request code path. you can't have less than one drive per zone (and therefore you're "limited" by the number of hard drives you have). however, I wouldn't recommend deploying with 300 drives in 300 zones20:48
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notmynamejeremyb: you should have been at the meetup I talked at on thursday night ;-)20:48
notmynamejeremyb: you give the ring structure the name of the object (account + container + object) and you get back the partition and the primary replicas. then there is another call that can give you handoff nodes20:49
notmynamejeremyb: actually, we'll be presenting the meetup again as a webcast on wednesday at 1pm pacific (http://swiftstack.eventbrite.com)20:50
jeremybnotmyname: is that SF?20:51
jeremybnotmyname: there doesn't seem to be much activity in NYC...20:51
notmynamejeremyb: ya, I'm in SF (and that's where the meetup was), but the webinar is wherever the Internet is :-)20:51
notmynameif you're in ny, then 4pm on wednesday20:51
jeremybwell fast internet20:51
jeremybright20:52
jeremybis it going to be downloadable or only live?20:52
notmynameshouldn't be too BW intensive. some static slides and audio20:52
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jeremybright, i just don't know if i'll be free at exactly the right instant20:53
notmyname;-)20:53
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notmynameI'm not sure what will be downloadable. I'm not sure the slide have enough info alone without the accompanying talk. slides are supporting material, ya know?20:54
jeremybe.g. for http://www.airbnb.com/meetups/jznjzcsa9-tech-talk-jay-kreps20:54
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jeremybi'm going to watch it later (maybe even download for the subway) because i couldn't make it live20:54
notmynamecool20:55
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jeremyb(that's about kafka btw, distributed logging at linkedin. talk is by linkedin)20:55
jeremyband is opensource of course ;)20:55
jeremybanyway, time to hit the road20:56
jeremybnotmyname: thanks for the pointer to that talk!20:56
notmynameI've been working on some ideas around a "Swift video series" that I hope to get started on this week20:56
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cdjeremyb: sorry for the delay - reason for more than 5 zones is I have conceptualized a zone as a seperate facility (of which we currently have 11)20:56
jeremybcd: you might want regions then20:57
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jeremybnot sure how mature they are20:57
jeremybzone per rack or zone per row or something. and region per facility20:57
notmynamecd: a zone is whatever the deployer decides it is. it's designed to designate a set of hardware that is independent from the other sets of hardware. this may be a rack for some or a DC room for others20:57
notmynameor a entire DC on a DC campus20:58
notmynameor if you have a small cluster, maybe it's just a set of drives on a single raid controller20:59
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cdthanks both of you ... as you can tell I'm a little green when it comes to openstack - I've got the concepts down but implemtation I'm still getting my hands around21:00
notmynamecd: no worries. that's why I'm here :-)21:01
cdMy project is to determine of openstack is a suitable replacement for a large hyper-v deployment we've got21:01
cddetermine if*21:01
notmynamecd: I think nova supports hyper-v. not sure what the migration path would look like, but it might be possible21:02
cdand get away from shared storage entierly!21:02
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cdfolsom release + xenserver 6.2 + block_migration is where I am at as of now21:03
cdbut I am having trouble finding any reference architecture on hardware/networking to help conceptualize the actual deployment21:03
nelsmarso i am completely lost at this point... i started off reading one guide on installing openstack, tried to start over, then tried devstack, which turned into a horrid mess, i tried to remove all of its files by hand in the end... looks like i got it all and i started setting it up again via another guide. last night i had VM's running but i had a problem with my network bridge and some reason my LAN went hay wire and i was getting21:04
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nelsmari came into the office this AM and rebooted my server and my network was fine again, however when i logged into the dashboard it cannot get any info on any instances, i checked nova-manage service list and i get xxx on all 4 items (scheudler, volume, compute, network). when i go to the var/log/nova fodler nothing has been touched in hours i am not sure whats going on, 0 errors..21:05
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nelsmarany chance anyone has a direction they could point me in ? im really just not sure at this point nova-manage log error shows older errors and nova-console & nova-consoleauth just loop oepnign and closing with exit code 1, eating up my cpu usage on my server atm21:06
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nelsmarodd, so i just executed nova-api by hand and it seems to be working... hhmm21:41
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zcd: another thing to bear in mind is Windows Server 2012 can live migrate on Hyper-V without shared storage22:46
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