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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052725 in python-novaclient "secgroup-add-rule and delete-rule handle case differently" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052725 | 02:00 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052727 in quantum "the README file for linuxbridge plugin should be updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052727 | 02:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052729 in quantum "the README file for ryu plugin should be updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052729 | 02:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052731 in quantum "the README file for nec plugin should be updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052731 | 02:20 |
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| atrius | so... i created a VM using virtualbox and have tried to import it into openstack (vmdk/ovf)... however, when i try to launch the instance, it fails to launch and i get an error complaining about "qemu-img: error while reading sector NUMBER" | 03:15 |
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| atrius | can an instance be assigned to more than one security group at a time? | 03:55 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052747 in tempest "Tempest assumes you are using floating IPs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052747 | 03:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052749 in tempest "Tempest requires a certain amount of quota" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052749 | 03:56 |
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| livemoon | morning | 04:06 |
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| atrius | okay... trying to figure out how to increase the amount of video ram a guest has in openstack | 04:18 |
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| atrius | is there no way to get a higher resolution in an instance? so far all i've tried isn't making a bit of difference... i've changed the settings in the /etc/qemu directory... virsh reports the setting change took... restarted nova-compute.. restarted the instance... nothing... the model of the video card changed... that's it | 05:41 |
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| vishy | atrius: what do you mean a higher resolution? | 06:18 |
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| vishy | atrius: you can change the libvirt definition with virsh | 06:18 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052776 in nova "Missing prmisc mode on VLAN bridge" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052776 | 07:16 |
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| zykes- | anyone got a clue on how I can get vnc to work with a controller and compute nodes ? | 07:56 |
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| previa | Hi, I am new to openstack. Is there any command to know how many job in queue ? | 08:00 |
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| zynzel | previa: rabbitmqctl list_queues | 08:01 |
| previa | I have create a snapshot, but its status remain Queued like forever. | 08:01 |
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| previa | zynzel: Thanks. | 08:02 |
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| previa | Hi all, I couldn't create a snapshot of iso booted instance. | 09:03 |
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| previa | The problem seems to be this https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1023492 | 09:04 |
| previa | But what if I really need to create a iso booted instance and export instance, what should I do ? | 09:04 |
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| tott-mb | hey there, i'm wondering a bit here how data from the ring, horizon and keystone is stored to avoid bottle necks and single point of failures. | 09:17 |
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| tott-mb | especially losing data from the ring would render the whole switft data useless if i understood things right. | 09:18 |
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| NuxRo | guys, if one was planning a production based on folsom, should i start with Cinder from start as well or choose nova-volume? | 09:21 |
| wica | I have a strange thing. When I put a load a network traffic thru a instance. It stops responding and I need to reboot the instance | 09:22 |
| wica | Has someone a clue? | 09:22 |
| wica | vnc stops, logging to the console.log stops | 09:23 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052826 in devstack "noVNC keyError on start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052826 | 09:30 |
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| zynzel | wica: what libvirt and kvm version? | 09:31 |
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| wica | libvirt 0.9.8 and qemu-kvm 1.0 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS | 09:55 |
| wica | zynzel: | 09:55 |
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| dguerri | hi all, someone could please point me toward some docs about keystone policies? | 10:07 |
| dguerri | I'd need a role to allow users to create tenants and users. | 10:07 |
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| dguerri | I need something like this document (but for keystone, not glance): http://docs.openstack.org/developer/glance/policies.html | 10:17 |
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| notze | i have cpu_allocation_ratio : 32.0 | 10:18 |
| notze | but in the database even after service restart: novaserver (used_max) 16 | 10:18 |
| notze | whats is here going wrong? | 10:19 |
| notze | i need to have more | 10:19 |
| notze | my cpu has 4 cores so i want to start more machines | 10:19 |
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| notze | 16 is nothing | 10:20 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052846 in python-glanceclient "Glanceclient does not allow endpoints not starting with '/v1'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052846 | 10:21 |
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| wica | twe/win 4 | 10:47 |
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| cryptk | hello all, I have an OpenStack install running on XCP, the issue is that it is launching my instances as HVM rather than PV, anyone have any pointers on where to look to solve this? | 11:04 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052901 in devstack "errors not reported unless verbose is set" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052901 | 12:46 |
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| lc | Hey guys, I'm having the following trouble -> <overLimitFault code="413" xmlns="http://docs.openstack.org/compute/api/v1.1"><message>This request was rate-limited.</message><details>Only 10 POST request(s) can be made to * every minute.</details></overLimitFault> | 13:17 |
| lc | It's releated a limit to POST in a * minutes. How can I change this configuration? | 13:18 |
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| viraptor | hi all, has anyone noticed quotas being a bit weird lately in master? I've got a system which auto-assigns floating ips, but I've got 10 instances and system counted 5 of their floating_ips as "in use" - now spawning a new one fails (this shouldn't be checked in general) | 13:22 |
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| NuxRo | Kiall: hi, you said ubuntu resizes itseld at first boot, are you able to provide the script which does that? or the link to the img file so I can have a look myself | 13:40 |
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| Augustine | Good Morning All. Quick question. Has anyone successfully created a VIF in a running instance in openstack and also access that instance from that VIF? By default the image creates eth0. if you create a vif eth0:1 in the instance and address it can you access that instance from that vif? | 14:05 |
| Augustine | if you have done this, can you share how you made this work? Thanks a Million | 14:06 |
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| notze | guys i still have a prob with max vcpu | 14:19 |
| notze | the scheduler stops after 16 vcpus | 14:19 |
| notze | even if i increase the ratio to 32 | 14:19 |
| notze | e.g | 14:19 |
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| notze | i have cpu_allocation_ratio : 32.0 | 14:24 |
| notze | but in the database even after service restart: novaserver (used_max) 16 | 14:24 |
| notze | what can i do | 14:24 |
| Augustine | @notze: Are you trying to overide the default cores in the Quota for openstack? | 14:25 |
| notze | yes | 14:25 |
| notze | something like that | 14:25 |
| Augustine | ok. This is what you do | 14:25 |
| notze | since i have 1 cpu with 4 cores | 14:26 |
| notze | and the ratio is 16 per cpu | 14:26 |
| notze | i can only emulate 16vcpu | 14:26 |
| notze | but i want more | 14:26 |
| Augustine | No problem | 14:26 |
| Augustine | If you are working under the tenant admin | 14:27 |
| Augustine | type this to see what you get first | 14:27 |
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| Augustine | nova-manage project quota admin | 14:27 |
| Augustine | change your tenant name to what you have | 14:27 |
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| Augustine | you should have some thing like this down the result | 14:27 |
| Augustine | metadata_items: 128 volumes: 10 gigabytes: 1000 ram: 51200 security_group_rules: 20 instances: 30 security_groups: 10 injected_file_content_bytes: 10240 floating_ips: 10 injected_files: 5 cores: 20 | 14:28 |
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| Augustine | take note of the cores value | 14:28 |
| Augustine | to change it, you then type | 14:28 |
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| Augustine | nova-manage project quota --project=admin --key=cores --value=32 | 14:29 |
| Augustine | again remember to change your project to your desired project name | 14:29 |
| Augustine | when you are through, restart | 14:29 |
| Augustine | openstack-nova-compute | 14:29 |
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| Augustine | I found that this usually gives the right result when you perform a listing of the quotas but does not actually implement it. If you do all the above and the cores reading is updated in your dashboard, you should be fine | 14:31 |
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| Augustine | if it does not work, make the changes directly to the python config file | 14:31 |
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| Ceno3x | Hi everyone | 14:31 |
| Augustine | In my cloud, I have the files location in | 14:32 |
| Augustine | changes yours accordinly | 14:32 |
| Augustine | file location: =>/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/nova/quota.py | 14:32 |
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| Augustine | you should be all set. | 14:33 |
| Augustine | Let me know how it goes | 14:33 |
| imsplitbit | Ceno3x howdy | 14:33 |
| Ceno3x | nova-compute is failing to spawn a VM with the error "Network filter not found" from libvirt. Indeed, running "nwfilter-list" in "virsh" shows the entry libvirt is looking for is missing. How can I go about debugging this? | 14:34 |
| Ceno3x | I'm very new to this subject and I'm trying my best, but google has been drawing blanks for me on this one | 14:34 |
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| mercenary | hi | 14:35 |
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| mercenary | trying to test openstack and having issue starting nova-network | 14:35 |
| mercenary | http://paste.openstack.org/show/20997/ | 14:36 |
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| notze | now the system fckd up^ | 14:40 |
| notze | thank god its test system | 14:40 |
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| Augustine | @notze: Ok. Revert your changes and restart your system then. I work primarily on CentOS 6. Your milage may vary on Ubuntu. I should have asked that first. | 14:43 |
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| notze | milage? | 14:44 |
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| Augustine | @notze: What I mean is this. Their implementation may be different so find out what works on your distribution. My approach worked on Centos 6 | 14:45 |
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| Augustine | That is how I overide all global defaults in openstack. | 14:46 |
| annegentle | ttx: around? | 14:46 |
| Augustine | @notze: The configuration file is written in Python. I hope you did not distort the file? Python adheres to strict syntax especially spaces. Just checking to be sure | 14:47 |
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| notze | i didnt change any files | 14:48 |
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| ttx | annegentle: yes | 14:48 |
| notze | nova-manage project quota --project=admin --key=cores --value=20^C | 14:48 |
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| Augustine | @notze: That is correct. If you are working under the admin Project/Tenant | 14:53 |
| Augustine | to see if your changes worked | 14:53 |
| Augustine | type | 14:53 |
| Augustine | nova-manage project quota admin | 14:53 |
| Augustine | the value for cores should be different | 14:54 |
| Augustine | log into your dashboard=> http://<ip address of your cloud controller>/dashboard and check the Quotas section | 14:55 |
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| Augustine | if the values of cores changed, you should be all set | 14:55 |
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| fm255005 | is it possible to set nova to use a routeable range on my network as the private/public address | 14:56 |
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| fm255005 | i have a 10.128.2/23 range that i want to use for openstack but i dont want to have to use floating ip addresses...i want to use my network domain and ip range and I want the instance to launch on the network | 14:57 |
| Augustine | @fm255005: Yes it is. | 14:58 |
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| vachon_ | anyone figured out a way to get dnsmasq to send a static route to the guest? | 14:59 |
| Augustine | With FlatDHCPManager, it works for me. You just have to make sure that when you create the network, you isolate any addresses of other systems on that network because nova will allocate and deallocate accordigly from that pool | 14:59 |
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| vachon | for instance if i want to send all traffic over a vpn tunnel if destined for foo | 15:00 |
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| atrius | good morning/evening all | 15:00 |
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| atrius | if you change the instance definition via virsh... is it necessary to restart nova-compute or will restarting the instance be sufficient? | 15:04 |
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| fm255005 | Augustine: ok, ive set it up before but not with a single range that is the public/private | 15:04 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052957 in tempest "Flavor list marker tests unexpectedly pass on the latest Essex code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052957 | 15:05 |
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| fm255005 | http://pastie.org/4754063 | 15:06 |
| fm255005 | this is the network portion of my nova.conf | 15:06 |
| fm255005 | does that look about right? | 15:07 |
| atrius | also... do you guys often have instances get stuck on boot at the grub prompt? they proceed, but require me connecting to the console and hitting enter | 15:07 |
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| Augustine | @fm255005: Setting it up with an address block is the only way I got mine to work. If you want to use the cobination of public/private network, you can use what ever private IP range you want but the floating address CIDR block must work | 15:07 |
| atrius | it's like the timeout isn't working properly | 15:07 |
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| fm255005 | what do you mean by address block | 15:10 |
| fm255005 | ip range? | 15:10 |
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| Augustine | @fm255005>: Your config looks good to me. I will make a suble change and see. | 15:11 |
| Augustine | See the changes below | 15:11 |
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| Augustine | public_interface = p1p1 flat_network_bridge = br100 flat_interface = p1p1 | 15:11 |
| Augustine | After that run this command | 15:11 |
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| Augustine | nova-manage network list | 15:12 |
| Augustine | If your network does not appear | 15:12 |
| fm255005 | ok | 15:12 |
| Augustine | run this command | 15:12 |
| fm255005 | yea thats what i had before | 15:13 |
| fm255005 | before it would create br100 automatically | 15:13 |
| fm255005 | its not being created this time around | 15:13 |
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| Augustine | nova-manage network create --label=public --fixed_range_v4=10.128.2.0/24 --num_networks=1 --network_size=256 --bridge=br100 | 15:14 |
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| Augustine | if it errors out, check if you have the bridge to begin with | 15:14 |
| Augustine | type | 15:14 |
| Augustine | brctl show | 15:14 |
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| Augustine | if it does not have the bridge, it means NOVA is not creating it and everything dependent on it will fail | 15:15 |
| fm255005 | yea ive had that happen beofre | 15:15 |
| Augustine | in this case, manually create a bridge called br100 | 15:15 |
| fm255005 | the issue is that ive had it that it creates it automatically | 15:15 |
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| fm255005 | then ive seen where it has to be manually created | 15:15 |
| Augustine | restart your system, clean the network stack and recreate it again | 15:15 |
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| Augustine | The manual process worked for me. | 15:16 |
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| Augustine | Based on my observation, if the NIC comes up as em1, em2 etc or p1p1, p1p2 etc. NOVA may not work right | 15:16 |
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| Augustine | but if you have eth0, eth2 etc which is standard, it works well | 15:17 |
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| fm255005 | well em1 and em2 are intergrated nics used on servers, p1p1 is for dual port nics | 15:17 |
| fm255005 | a dual port nic wont use eth0/1 | 15:18 |
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| fm255005 | i wasnt lecturing...didnt mean it that way | 15:18 |
| fm255005 | i havent seen eth0/1 used on dual or quad nics before | 15:19 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052967 in openstack-manuals "Task: add appendix containing versions and dependencies to Install and Deploy guide" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052967 | 15:21 |
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| Augustine | @fm255005: That is fine. what matters most is if it works. Identify what NIC to use for your bridge, create it manually, test it to make sure it works, clean out your network start, create your network using the nova commands and test again | 15:21 |
| fm255005 | do you mind showing me a pastie of your bridge? | 15:22 |
| fm255005 | you can remove any sensitive info | 15:23 |
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| Augustine | When in doubt, spin up a KVM instance and see if it works on the bridge. If it works, you know your configs are ok and that NOVA is not doing some thing right | 15:23 |
| Augustine | I use centOS for my cloud | 15:23 |
| fm255005 | yea me too | 15:23 |
| Augustine | ok | 15:23 |
| Augustine | one sec | 15:24 |
| fm255005 | i just rebuilt it from a two server cloud to a four | 15:24 |
| fm255005 | networking was one of those things that ive had working a few different ways but could never wrap my head around it completely | 15:24 |
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| fm255005 | i understand the standard setup with private networks and floating ips but this setup is alittle different | 15:25 |
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| Augustine | Yes. I agree. That for Centos is not clearly spelt out | 15:27 |
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| Augustine | See the configs below. | 15:27 |
| Augustine | ifcfg-br100 ==================== DEVICE="br100" BOOTPROTO="static" ONBOOT="yes" TYPE="Bridge" DELAY=0 IPADDR=<bridge ip> NETMASK=<bridge NM> ifcfg-em1 =================== DEVICE="em1" BOOTPROTO="none" HWADDR="<YOUR MAC ADDRESS" NM_CONTROLLED="no" ONBOOT="yes" BRIDGE="br100" | 15:27 |
| Augustine | remember to | 15:27 |
| Augustine | service network restart | 15:27 |
| Augustine | brctl show ============= bridge namebridge idSTP enabledinterfaces br1008000.d4ae5275b9ednoem1 virbr08000.5254002d03c6yesvirbr0-nic | 15:28 |
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| fm255005 | so would I be able to set p1p1 as the as the bridged adapter and still keep internet connectivity? | 15:29 |
| gatuus | I can show you mine.. it's on fedora17 3 nics | 15:29 |
| fm255005 | gatuus: cool, are you using floating ips or just one network range? | 15:29 |
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| gatuus | ips | 15:30 |
| fm255005 | im trying to avoid using floating ips and have the private ip range be routable through my network | 15:30 |
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| gatuus | ohhh my config is in a virtual server | 15:31 |
| gatuus | virtual box to be exact | 15:31 |
| Augustine | Set a bridge for plpl in br100 and you should be all set | 15:31 |
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| gatuus | I hate ppipipipipi nics names | 15:31 |
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| gatuus | I prefer to rename it to classical ethX | 15:31 |
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| Augustine | See what I sent. In my case I have em1, yours should plpl | 15:31 |
| gatuus | and move NetworkManager aside | 15:32 |
| fm255005_ | yea i have an em1 and em2 also | 15:32 |
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| gatuus | wait.. starting VM | 15:32 |
| Augustine | let me know how it goes | 15:32 |
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| gatuus | now... sshing to it | 15:33 |
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| Augustine | Yeahh. | 15:33 |
| fm255005_ | so this is possible right? basically to have the private or internal ip range routeable to the network (non cloud instances) | 15:33 |
| Augustine | Yes. It is | 15:34 |
| fm255005_ | ok | 15:34 |
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| gatuus | well.. there isss a.... a tiny problem.. .every time I boot my Vm I need to restart network.service... wait | 15:34 |
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| Augustine | @fm255005. Please, note the following, | 15:34 |
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| Augustine | make sure you make exceptions for other hosts with IPs in that block. This is very very important | 15:35 |
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| fm255005_ | yea i have the dhcp range starting at .11 | 15:36 |
| Augustine | In my case, I created a VLAN for this, reserved the first 10 addresses for my Cloud Hosts and the rest for the instances. So far its been working | 15:36 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052978 in openstack-manuals "Task: determine if all new folsom nova options are in master branch documentation" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052978 | 15:36 |
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| Augustine | Ok. That is better | 15:36 |
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| Augustine | Nice it worked. Good Luck | 15:36 |
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| gatuus | ok... here it is: http://pastebin.com/p1zV81WM | 15:37 |
| fm255005_ | the br100 bridge needs to have an ip? | 15:37 |
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| Augustine | Yes. | 15:37 |
| fm255005_ | like a 192 address | 15:37 |
| fm255005_ | or any class C | 15:37 |
| Augustine | No. It has to be an address on that network | 15:37 |
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| Augustine | that is the trick | 15:37 |
| fm255005_ | is it the same address as the p1p1, in your case the em1 | 15:38 |
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| Augustine | With the bridge setup plpl should not have any address. That address should be assigned to br100 | 15:38 |
| gatuus | eth0 is my natted nic and has internet access.. eth1 is my public and eth2 is my private.. hehe | 15:38 |
| fm255005_ | ooooh...got it | 15:38 |
| fm255005_ | are you using two nics on yours? | 15:38 |
| Augustine | I am using one NIC | 15:39 |
| fm255005_ | ok | 15:39 |
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| fm255005_ | now i have four nics | 15:39 |
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| fm255005_ | would there be a better setup to use? | 15:39 |
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| fm255005_ | just in case | 15:39 |
| fm255005_ | p1p1, p1p2, p2p1,p2p2 | 15:39 |
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| Augustine | I created a VLAN for my cloud and put everything there. That removes all the Network and Firewall complexities | 15:40 |
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| Augustine | no DHCP, no DNS. I left all that work to DNSMASQ | 15:40 |
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| fm255005_ | i was going to use a vlan but couldnt think of a use for more than 2 | 15:41 |
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| egoitz | Hi all!! | 16:05 |
| zeus | hi hi! | 16:05 |
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| egoitz | I was wondering if some of you could please me give an idea of what could be failing in my little testing openstack installation | 16:05 |
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| zeus | egoitz: maybe you should paste your error and then ask for someone on line ;) | 16:08 |
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| egoitz | Yep sorry I was talking to a workmate | 16:15 |
| egoitz | I'm using a XenCloud, and devstack pv machine | 16:15 |
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| egoitz | the most basic config | 16:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052993 in nova "Scheduling error in resize does not create an instance fault" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052993 | 16:16 |
| egoitz | If I do | 16:16 |
| egoitz | nova boot --image 34bcff6d-2eb0-488e-9da9-b51edf919e31 --flavor 2 my-first-server | 16:16 |
| egoitz | +-------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | Property | Value | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | +-------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | OS-DCF:diskConfig | MANUAL | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR:host | None | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR:hypervisor_hostname | None | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | OS-EXT-SRV-ATTR:instance_name | instance-00000001 | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | OS-EXT-STS:power_state | 0 | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | OS-EXT-STS:task_state | scheduling | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | OS-EXT-STS:vm_state | building | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | accessIPv4 | | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | accessIPv6 | | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | adminPass | mUSqGhw8sp7Z | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | config_drive | | | 16:16 |
| egoitz | | created | 2012-09-19T16:03:19Z | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | flavor | m1.small | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | hostId | | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | id | 89c08b16-d99d-4637-a142-e700509f81c2 | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | image | cirros-0.3.0-x86_64-uec | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | key_name | None | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | metadata | {} | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | name | my-first-server | | 16:17 |
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| egoitz | | progress | 0 | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | security_groups | [{u'name': u'default'}] | | 16:17 |
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| egoitz | | status | BUILD | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | tenant_id | fac531df07da4cdbafcc3593ea44137c | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | updated | 2012-09-19T16:03:20Z | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | user_id | 8fb03f8c4ed5434eba989b92f31a300a | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | +-------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | 16:17 |
| egoitz | stack@DevStackOSDomU:~$ nova list | 16:17 |
| egoitz | +--------------------------------------+-----------------+--------+----------+ | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | ID | Name | Status | Networks | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | +--------------------------------------+-----------------+--------+----------+ | 16:17 |
| egoitz | | 89c08b16-d99d-4637-a142-e700509f81c2 | my-first-server | ERROR | | | 16:17 |
| egoitz | +--------------------------------------+-----------------+--------+----------+ | 16:18 |
| egoitz | perhaps I should have pasted in pastebin | 16:18 |
| zeus | egoitz: use http://paste.openstack.org/ to paste your strings please! | 16:18 |
| egoitz | sorry | 16:18 |
| egoitz | how could I debug or go further debugging? | 16:18 |
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| notze | my nova is still screwed up dashboard tell me that instances are running but virsh list shows nothing can i reinitialize nova somehow? | 16:18 |
| egoitz | I have not nova-compute.log or similar... | 16:18 |
| egoitz | I have thrown to syslog with | 16:18 |
| egoitz | zeus: yep sorry | 16:18 |
| zeus | notze: I got that error a time ago... drop database nova; create database nova; then nova-manage sync db :P | 16:18 |
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| egoitz | how could go deeper investigating what happened? | 16:18 |
| Augustine | What key are you starting your instance with? I don't see that in your command | 16:18 |
| zeus | egoitz: you don't have /var/log/nova/*.log ? | 16:19 |
| viraptor | egoitz: you're stuck at scheduling - are your schedulers working correctly? are they connected to the database / mq? check nova-scheduler.log and see if they're active in `nova-manage service list` | 16:19 |
| Augustine | check logs in /var/log/nova/ | 16:19 |
| atrius | so.. i built my first instance from scratch.. vice using a pre-built image... it seems half the time it doesn't report to nova that it has finished resuming... it does come up correctly... anyone know how exactly nova determines the instance is up? | 16:19 |
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| Augustine | Oops. @Zeus already sent it | 16:19 |
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| egoitz | Augustinehttp://paste.openstack.org/show/21000/ | 16:20 |
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| notze | zeus what data do i loose? | 16:20 |
| egoitz | are active viraptor | 16:20 |
| notze | instance data?ß | 16:20 |
| zeus | notze: everything | 16:20 |
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| egoitz | zeus: nope I don't have those directories | 16:20 |
| notze | zeus nice! | 16:20 |
| egoitz | I'm running devstack | 16:20 |
| egoitz | by the way... | 16:20 |
| notze | so all project all instances are gone? | 16:20 |
| zeus | notze: same words that my boss used XD | 16:20 |
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| notze | are you kidding ? | 16:21 |
| zeus | egoitz: how did you installed nova ? | 16:21 |
| zeus | notze: not kidding | 16:21 |
| notze | it has be possible to repair | 16:21 |
| egoitz | zeus: just with devstack scripts | 16:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1052997 in nova "auto_assigned floating ips are counted when used, but never removed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1052997 | 16:21 |
| notze | otherwise nova is useless | 16:21 |
| zeus | notze: so I go a bit deeper and delete the instance using just delete commands with mysql | 16:21 |
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| egoitz | mmm what does mean XXX state? | 16:21 |
| zeus | notze: if I remember well theres a bash script that will deal with that in the wiki | 16:22 |
| zeus | egoitz: in nova-manage list services ? | 16:22 |
| notze | do you have a link? | 16:22 |
| notze | so for me nova is not productive with that | 16:22 |
| egoitz | zeus: yes | 16:22 |
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| egoitz | have just done a very similar plain installation | 16:23 |
| zeus | egoitz: :-( means not running and :-) running so I guess that XXX means "unknown state" | 16:23 |
| zeus | notze: in my experenience you have those error when you commit an error with install or uploading the image to glance | 16:23 |
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| egoitz | my nova.conf | 16:23 |
| egoitz | http://paste.openstack.org/show/21001/ | 16:23 |
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| zeus | notze: not really laptop with that info it's at the office sorry :/ | 16:24 |
| zeus | notze: I will have to search again | 16:24 |
| zeus | egoitz: spanish user :P I can tell for the passwords that you should not show :P | 16:25 |
| egoitz | just testing config | 16:25 |
| egoitz | nothing serious | 16:25 |
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| egoitz | in devstack where could I look for logs? | 16:25 |
| zeus | egoitz: never used devstack so don't know where the logs are :/ | 16:25 |
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| egoitz | how could I see where the logs are being written? | 16:26 |
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| zeus | egoitz: devstack use some kind of screen when it runs right? maybe logs are in that screen | 16:26 |
| notze | 2012-09-19 18:25:47 CRITICAL nova [-] Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-00000006' | 16:27 |
| viraptor | hmm... I submitted a patch and jenkins started 503-ing... coincidence or breakage? :) | 16:27 |
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| zeus | notze: no the instance isn't that | 16:27 |
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| zeus | notze: you should look the instance id in "nova show <instance name>" | 16:28 |
| zeus | notze: or just the id that "nova list" shows | 16:28 |
| zeus | egoitz: I'm reading the devstack scripts | 16:28 |
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| egoitz | zeus: thanks mate I'm pseudo crazy now with openstack debugging | 16:28 |
| egoitz | just to see the error | 16:28 |
| egoitz | nothing else lol!! | 16:28 |
| zeus | egoitz: at first look did you look at /opt/stack/ ? | 16:29 |
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| zeus | egoitz: it should use syslog | 16:34 |
| egoitz | zeus: yep | 16:34 |
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| egoitz | I'm not able to launch an instance | 16:35 |
| egoitz | and all is done with the install_domU script .... | 16:36 |
| egoitz | it's pretty crazy | 16:36 |
| notze | i have id and name | 16:36 |
| notze | but none with instance.... | 16:36 |
| notze | if i do virsh list i have 5 instances | 16:36 |
| notmyname | zykes-: you rang? | 16:36 |
| notze | but no 6 | 16:37 |
| notze | 11 instance-00000001 running | 16:37 |
| notze | 12 instance-00000002 running | 16:37 |
| notze | 13 instance-00000004 running | 16:37 |
| notze | 14 instance-00000005 running | 16:37 |
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| notze | virsh list | 16:37 |
| egoitz | gonna read a little more mates | 16:37 |
| egoitz | thanks | 16:37 |
| egoitz | bye!! | 16:37 |
| zeus | notze: does instance name will not be used on the database | 16:38 |
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| atrius | grrrr.... my instances have suddenly lost contact with the internet | 16:38 |
| Augustine | nova list | 16:38 |
| Augustine | will give you the information you need | 16:39 |
| Augustine | run that on the cloud controller | 16:39 |
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| notze | zeus but thats the error the logfile of nova-compute gives me | 16:40 |
| zeus | notze: that's because you are seeing the raw log with the command that fails | 16:41 |
| zeus | not the information that nova use in the database which it's the one that you want to clean iup | 16:41 |
| zeus | a sec be back in 30m have to buy for lunch | 16:41 |
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| notze | f02c2c3e-f593-4155-87da-3fffb202addc | CloudInit | HARD_REBOOT | 16:41 |
| notze | hangs | 16:41 |
| zeus | notze: thats your id! :D | 16:41 |
| notze | can i restart it from command line | 16:42 |
| zeus | f02c2c3e-f593-4155-87da-3fffb202addc <-- that one! | 16:42 |
| notze | what to do with ito | 16:42 |
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| zeus | notze: the market close in 15m if I don't go now I will no have something for lunch!! | 16:42 |
| zeus | bye! | 16:42 |
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| notze | cu :) | 16:43 |
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| atrius | the instances can access everything in the local network.. but cannot leave the local network to the internet... weird | 16:44 |
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| notze | ERROR: Cannot 'suspend' while instance is in task_state rebooting_hard (HTTP 409) | 16:45 |
| notze | i cant do anything? | 16:45 |
| notze | ERROR: Cannot 'suspend' while instance is in task_state rebooting_hard (HTTP 409) | 16:45 |
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| atrius | notze: do you know what the true state of the instance is? is it really suspended? | 16:46 |
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| atrius | sorry, rebooting_hard | 16:46 |
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| notze | its doing nothing since hours | 16:47 |
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| atrius | can you reach the instance? get to the console or anything? | 16:47 |
| notze | nothing | 16:47 |
| notze | its down | 16:47 |
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| atrius | do you know the internal name of the instance? something like instance-0000002a? | 16:48 |
| notze | its not doing anything since nova compute is down | 16:48 |
| notze | where can i find it | 16:49 |
| atrius | oh.. nova-compute is down? | 16:49 |
| notze | nova compute doesnt start because of instance-000006 | 16:49 |
| atrius | what reason is given? | 16:49 |
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| notze | 2012-09-19 18:25:47 CRITICAL nova [-] Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-00000006' | 16:50 |
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| atrius | oh.. that's no good | 16:50 |
| atrius | but.. i don't think it would cause nova-compute to fail to start | 16:50 |
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| notze | but it does | 16:52 |
| atrius | hmm... well... do you know what happened to that instance? | 16:52 |
| notze | no | 16:53 |
| notze | not at all | 16:53 |
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| zynzel | notze: virsh list --all | 16:54 |
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| zeus | and the market was close | 16:57 |
| zeus | instant lunch for me | 16:57 |
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| zeus | notze: did it work ? | 16:59 |
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| notze | 1 instance-00000001 running | 17:05 |
| notze | 2 instance-00000002 running | 17:05 |
| notze | 3 instance-00000004 running | 17:05 |
| notze | 4 instance-00000005 running | 17:05 |
| notze | - instance-0000000a shut off | 17:05 |
| notze | - instance-0000000c shut off | 17:05 |
| notze | - instance-0000001f shut off | 17:05 |
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| notze | - instance-00000020 shut off | 17:05 |
| notze | - instance-00000021 shut off | 17:05 |
| notze | - instance-00000022 shut off | 17:05 |
| notze | - instance-00000023 shut off | 17:06 |
| notze | - instance-00000024 shut off | 17:06 |
| notze | no instance with that name exists | 17:06 |
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| atrius | it's in the database then.. but no longer exists | 17:06 |
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| notze | how to remove | 17:06 |
| alop | notze: try virsh define | 17:07 |
| zynzel | notze: ls /etc/libvirt/qemu/instance-000006.xml | 17:07 |
| zynzel | [6~;) | 17:07 |
| alop | like, virsh define /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-0000XXXX/libvirt.xml | 17:07 |
| alop | then you can do virsh start | 17:08 |
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| mmalesky | swift question: does swift always run in https mode or does it run in http unsecure when you don't specify a cert/change the bind port in the proxy config? | 17:11 |
| atrius | PiP mode on a computer monitor is awesome :D | 17:11 |
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| mmalesky | i seem to have come across config examples that would demonstrate either of those scenarios | 17:11 |
| zynzel | mmalesky: you can runn 'unsecure' swift. | 17:11 |
| notze | i try later and come back thx for now gotta eat as well bbl | 17:11 |
| zynzel | even you should use unsecure swift. | 17:11 |
| notmyname | mmalesky: swift runs non-ssl if you do not specify the certs, ssl if you specify certs. it's recommended that your run non-ssl with swift and terminate ssl outside of swift | 17:12 |
| zynzel | swift have (had?) problem iwth https performance. | 17:12 |
| notmyname | zynzel: s/swift/python+eventlet/ ;-) | 17:12 |
| zynzel | notmyname: yeah, right ;) | 17:12 |
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| mmalesky | i dig it. thanks. that seemed to be the implication of cert/no cert config. i've also seen https performance issues with similar applications which is why i asked when i saw the two different configs | 17:13 |
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| chao-mu | Is there a way to remotely identify the version of a Keystone installation? | 17:34 |
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| atrius | chao-mu: how do you mean remotely? | 17:36 |
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| chao-mu | atrius: | 17:37 |
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| chao-mu | atrius: From a different computer on the network | 17:37 |
| atrius | chao-mu: do you mean without sshing to the machine and asking it? | 17:37 |
| chao-mu | atrius: Correct. | 17:37 |
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| chao-mu | atrius: Via some http request to the service itself | 17:37 |
| atrius | chao-mu: not sure off hand... logically you should be able to ask it over the API | 17:38 |
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| ev0ldave | i see notes for live migration capability to increase number of virtual CPUs. does anyone have the documentation on actually doing it? | 17:39 |
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| chao-mu | atrius: You can get the API version that way, but I am interested in the services version | 17:40 |
| chao-mu | the code base. | 17:40 |
| chao-mu | release | 17:40 |
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| atrius | chao-mu: right.. i imagine you're working on verifying updates or something of that nature? | 17:42 |
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| chao-mu | atrius: Something like that :-) | 17:43 |
| chao-mu | atrius: But that's the nail on the head of what I am trying to do | 17:43 |
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| atrius | chao-mu: unfortunately i don't know off the top of my head :( if possible, it might be quicker and easier to just ssh to the machines in question and ask them... i imagine you have key based logins setup on the servers, yes? | 17:45 |
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| chao-mu | atrius: Unfortunately not a possibility. I'll keep digging and let you know if I come up with anything through the service :-) | 17:46 |
| atrius | chao-mu: sounds good :) | 17:46 |
| atrius | i'd be surprised if there were no method to determine such information.. you can't be the first person to want it, know what i mean? | 17:47 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1053028 in nova "marker option not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053028 | 18:01 |
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| Augustine | Quick Question All: Has anyone successfully configured a VIF in a running instacne? like eth0:1, eth0:2 and access that VIF outside the instance? | 18:13 |
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| Augustine | If you have, I will like to know how | 18:13 |
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| fm255005_ | is a bridge needed if you have an available nic ot use it | 18:16 |
| fm255005_ | instead of br100 would i just be able to use a nic | 18:16 |
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| Augustine | I already have a bridge and all that works. One of the objectives in my POC is to test the use of VIFS within the instance. I can create the VIF but the VIF is not accessible outside the instance or between instances | 18:17 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1053037 in horizon "Horizon reports the wrong flavor for an instance." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053037 | 18:35 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1053041 in cinder "SolarisISCSIDriver does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053041 | 18:46 |
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| warik | Hello guys! What are you using to centralize your logs across all your compute nodes? syslog-ng/rsyslog/ossec ? thanks | 18:53 |
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| akio1 | Is there friendly helping going on here? | 19:35 |
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| nelson1234 | akio1: no, now go away. | 19:36 |
| akio1 | Tried to install by using https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_EPEL | 19:36 |
| akio1 | I can take unfriendly as well. | 19:36 |
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| nelson1234 | I may have written part of those instructions. let me go read them. | 19:36 |
| akio | now getting unexpected response 301 when trying to interact with glance | 19:37 |
| akio | i probably typoed something, but I'm not familiar enough with it yet to troubleshoot it. | 19:37 |
| nelson1234 | Oh, okay, Nova. I worked on Swift. Sorry, can't help. | 19:37 |
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| akio | nelson1234: know anyone who worked with glance in here? | 19:39 |
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| nelson1234 | no, sorry. | 19:39 |
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| sampson | Anyone here a guru in object storage? | 19:41 |
| akio | nelson1234 is | 19:41 |
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| gatuus | guru?? | 19:41 |
| annegentle | akio: weird, I haven't seen a 301, but then again I haven't run on Fedora. | 19:41 |
| sampson | well i just have a question about the proxy servers | 19:41 |
| sampson | is it possible to run two separate clusters of proxy api servers on the same data pool | 19:42 |
| akio | on CentOS 6.3 | 19:42 |
| nelson1234 | sampson: afaik, yes. | 19:42 |
| annegentle | akio if 301 = moved permanently, can you confirm that your endpoints are ok? | 19:43 |
| akio | annegentle: what is preferred? | 19:43 |
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| akio | I'm a noob following a setup guide. | 19:43 |
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| akio | I don't know what glance is even trying to access. | 19:43 |
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| sampson | and are there any benchmarks for large-scale implementation anywhere? i've been trying to find some but it's rather hard... this setup is targeting 3PB of data which will be replicated in triplicate to 9PB stored | 19:43 |
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| annegentle | akio: in the (longer-than-a-wiki-page) Fedora install guide, here are the assumptions; http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/assumptions.html | 19:44 |
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| annegentle | akio: the image service endpoints are defined here: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/keystone-service-endpoint-create.html | 19:45 |
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| annegentle | akio: and basic concepts about the services and the catalog that tracks them can be found here: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/keystone-concepts.html | 19:45 |
| annegentle | akio: if you just want a single-node install to play with, go to devstack.org rather than doing all the config manual :) | 19:46 |
| annegentle | manually I mean | 19:46 |
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| uhnzach | I'm having trouble setting up keystone. When I run the command keystone user-list for the first time, I get the error: No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.v2_0.client" Authorization Failed: Unable to communicate with identity service: (403, 'Forbidden'). (HTTP 400) | 19:49 |
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| notmyname | sampson: ya, I can help | 19:50 |
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| notmyname | sampson: what do you mean by "two separate clusters"? | 19:51 |
| sampson | alright give me a few to type out the issue | 19:51 |
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| sampson | so coming/going from the internet to storage is only 2Gbit/sec which is fine and dandy, but internal to the network the storage pool is on the client wants to grab files, apply deltas and throw them back in the pool as fast as possible... currently they're doing this with amazon using ec2 10gbit communicating with s3. so the idea is to have proxy servers for each application patcher both hooked up via 10gbe to a router so request goes to proxy server, i | 19:53 |
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| sampson | because otherwise they'll have to go off the same proxy pool as the internet traffic which means quite a bit of circular routing | 19:53 |
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| notmyname | sampson: so you want to have an "internal" and "external" set of proxies to handle different classes of traffic, right? | 19:55 |
| sampson | correct | 19:55 |
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| notmyname | sampson: ok, no problem. that's actually exactly how rackspace does it with cloud files for servicenet connections (internal-to-RAX network) and public connections. there is nothing that is done within swift to set this up--the proxies are exactly the same (ie same rings). just set your networking to connect to the right place | 19:57 |
| sampson | ok | 19:57 |
| notmyname | sampson: IOW, 2 different endpoints that hit the separate VIPs/LBs/whatever | 19:57 |
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| sampson | and can swift work with dsr notmyname ? i would assume so? | 20:00 |
| zykes- | sampson: dsr | 20:00 |
| zykes- | ? | 20:00 |
| sampson | direct server return | 20:00 |
| sampson | request goes into load balancer, goes to proxy server, returns to client | 20:01 |
| sampson | so the return is skipping the load balancer | 20:01 |
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| notmyname | sampson: wouldn't that be something handled in your load balancer? | 20:04 |
| sampson | no, lb supports dsr | 20:04 |
| sampson | http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org/VS-DRouting.html | 20:04 |
| sampson | the thing is if swift is ok with responding to the ip on loopback | 20:04 |
| sampson | so say i send a request to 4.4.4.4, lb sends this to the real server saying destiniation is 4.4.4.4 and the source is the real server... direct server return/routing allows you to bind 4.4.4.4 via loopback and tell the real server to not arp on the interface. so it listens, and then returns directly to the source | 20:05 |
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| sampson | so theoretically swift would need to bind locally to the same ip on all servers, or be able to bind on two ips | 20:06 |
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| sampson | since it has the memcache pool | 20:07 |
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| notmyname | sampson: so if you can't tell, I'm not very familiar with that (ie, it makes sense, but I haven't dealt with it in a prod setup before) | 20:08 |
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| sampson | yeah, it's just a really nice way to get more oomph out of a load balancer since it has to do much less | 20:08 |
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| notmyname | sampson: the proxies bind to whatever interface is in the config file. so assuming you set up the networking correctly, I suppose it would work (similarly, the memcache connections are to whatever IPs are specified in the config) | 20:11 |
| sampson | also notmyname is there any sort of diminishing returns w/ the object storage servers? i see rackspace does 24 sata drives but why not 36? | 20:12 |
| sampson | should be able to fit that many in the same cab space | 20:12 |
| notmyname | sampson: no, use whatever size of boxes make sense for you. the important part is balancing the ratio of GB:CPU:RAM:BW based on your usage patterns. but there's no problem running very dense storage nodes (eg 45-drive JBODS on a head unit) | 20:14 |
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| sampson | and what about the proxy servers? do they need any storage at all? the documentation really doesn't touch on that or what kind of size the storage container can grow to | 20:15 |
| notmyname | sampson: you can build out each part of the cluster (proxy, object, account/container) to match your use case | 20:15 |
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| notmyname | sampson: no, the proxy doesn't need storage | 20:16 |
| notmyname | sampson: proxy needs CPU/RAM/ability to read and write from the network | 20:16 |
| notmyname | sampson: object needs GB and some RAM (for page cache) | 20:16 |
| notmyname | sampson: account+container need IOPS and some RAM (at large scale) | 20:17 |
| sampson | can that be clustered as well or setup with a standby unit? | 20:17 |
| sampson | the account/container server | 20:17 |
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| notmyname | sampson: there is no shared state with any swift process, so you can go as wide as needed | 20:18 |
| sampson | well i mean iops i could just throw ssd raid array in and wash my hands of it, but it doesn't touch on how the sqlite db grows over time :/ | 20:18 |
| notmyname | sampson: but, of course, you should have at least as many drives as replicas you are using. that's pretty much the lower limit | 20:18 |
| notmyname | sampson: ya, exactly right. a RAID 10 SSD array has a ton of IOPS. as containers grow (to dozens or hundreds of millions of objects), that kind of hardware may be necessary. another option, if you control the client, is to shard your data across more containers | 20:20 |
| notmyname | sampson: long-term, we'd like to transparently shard containers to keep them more performant as they grow to massive size | 20:20 |
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| akio | annegentle: need to run this on centos, says only fedora 16 is supported | 20:29 |
| akio | but thanks for the info, looks like i will be hopping for this | 20:29 |
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| yocum | udev is giving me fits - how do I force it to NOT regenerate the 70-persistent-net.rules file every time I bring a RHELv6.3 VM online? | 20:40 |
| yocum | I really don't want my eth0 to be renamed to eth1 | 20:41 |
| yocum | that causes for a bad day | 20:41 |
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| akio | yocum: link to dev null? | 20:44 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1053099 in python-quantumclient "Invalid help option for quota-update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053099 | 20:51 |
| dachary | Hi. I'm looking for a simple way to create an instance from an existing disk ( without going thru glance ). | 20:51 |
| dachary | In essex. | 20:51 |
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| dachary | disk == raw img file, with partition table, kernel + initrd included. Ready for full virtualisation. | 20:52 |
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| dachary | it looks like http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/boot-from-volume.html is my best bet | 20:57 |
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| EmilienM | dachary: I've used http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/creating-a-linux-image.html | 21:01 |
| EmilienM | dachary: good evening by the way :) | 21:01 |
| dachary | :-) | 21:01 |
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| dachary | EmilienM: good evening sir | 21:02 |
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| zykes- | hint dachary use Oz for building linux images ! :) | 21:02 |
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| EmilienM | daychary: oh but your VM is ready you told us | 21:02 |
| EmilienM | mhh, starting from volume seems to be the best way I guess | 21:02 |
| dachary | I have no problem building an image : I want to migrate an existing image ( from ganeti ) to OpenStack. | 21:02 |
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| EmilienM | and maybe create a snapshot of the instance with the goal to export it into Glance | 21:03 |
| zykes- | what's ganeti dachary ? | 21:03 |
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| EmilienM | boot from volume + snapshot | 21:03 |
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| dachary | zykes-: http://code.google.com/p/ganeti/ was my favorite pre-cloud cluster environment. Before I turned to OpenStack. I have legacy there ;-) | 21:04 |
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| EmilienM | dachary: what do you think about my idea ? | 21:04 |
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| zykes- | ;) | 21:04 |
| dachary | EmilienM: these are large virtual machines ( over 100GB ) and I'm not eager to export them to glance. | 21:04 |
| zykes- | kind of like eucalyptus or ? | 21:05 |
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| dachary | EmilienM: booting from volume seems to be the way to go indeed. | 21:05 |
| zykes- | dachary: I wonder if you can *maybe* manipulate that someway | 21:05 |
| zykes- | boot volume indeed | 21:05 |
| EmilienM | dachary: I agree :) | 21:05 |
| dachary | I kind of remember there were traps to avoid. | 21:05 |
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| EmilienM | dachary: are you going to run Folsom or Essex ? | 21:05 |
| NuxRo | i notice the injected ssh key files don't have the proper selinux context hence not allowing key access .. is this a known issue? | 21:06 |
| dachary | EmilienM: I'm doing this on a pure essex cluster. | 21:06 |
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| zykes- | dachary: upgrade to folsom | 21:06 |
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| zykes- | once it comes | 21:06 |
| dachary | zykes-: I will, for sure ;-) | 21:06 |
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| * dachary trying to remember why booting from volume is tricky in essex | 21:08 | |
| notze | alop+zynzel that helped a lot!!!! | 21:08 |
| notze | after virsh define it works again | 21:08 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1053110 in python-quantumclient "--router and --floating ip are missing for quota-update" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053110 | 21:11 |
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| notze | in general my openstack works again only dashboard stills shows old instance states | 21:16 |
| notze | like deleting | 21:16 |
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| notze | how can i restart that? | 21:16 |
| notze | where does dashboard get the states frm | 21:17 |
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| alop | notze: np, i see that problem a lot | 21:22 |
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| notze | so maybee it should be bugfixed :) | 21:25 |
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| notze | now i only have still that one instance showing Hard RebootRebooting Hard | 21:25 |
| notze | in dashboard | 21:25 |
| notze | but its running | 21:25 |
| notze | weiredd | 21:26 |
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| notze | its fully accesseable | 21:26 |
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| notze | cannot stop cannot reboot since its pending in hard reboot ^ | 21:29 |
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| dachary | EmilienM: do you know of a way to target a volume availability zone, other than " euca-create-volume --zone myzone ..." ? | 21:30 |
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| EmilienM | dachary: I don't use eucatools | 21:30 |
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| EmilienM | dachary: I'm not sure nova-volumes is able to perform that, do you ? | 21:35 |
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| EmilienM | I think that's a feature for Cinder | 21:35 |
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| dachary | EmilienM: I'm using it using euca-create-volume --zone myzone, it works in essex. It does not work with nova volume-create though, parameter is missing. | 21:44 |
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| EmilienM | dachary: ok. But AFIK, eucatools is deprecated, isn't it ? | 21:48 |
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| dachary | EmilienM: it's in wheezy for the next few years ;-) | 21:50 |
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| EmilienM | dachary: I guess yes, but what I mean, is that I'm not familiar with eucatools since people told me that's going to be depcrecated. That's why I'm trying to work only with openstack CLI | 21:51 |
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| dachary | I'm after the simplest way to select an availability zone with standard unmodified software. A solution that lasts for ~2 years is plenty. | 21:51 |
| dachary | EmilienM: I would much prefer to use openstack cli too. But I could not find a way to do it with essex & openstack cli. | 21:52 |
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| EmilienM | dachary: I see | 21:52 |
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| dachary | EmilienM: interesting puzzle to solve ;-) | 21:53 |
| EmilienM | dachary: Good luck with that. I'm done for today :) | 21:53 |
| dachary | night | 21:53 |
| EmilienM | dachary: thx, you too | 21:54 |
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| tziOm | Can swift be used for email storage? | 21:58 |
| notze | mhmh | 21:58 |
| notze | its object storage | 21:58 |
| notze | so normally not | 21:58 |
| notze | only if you want to save each mail as own object | 21:59 |
| notmyname | tziOm: depends on what you mean. swift doesn't have any sort of SMTP interface, but it could be used for backing up emails | 21:59 |
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| notze | the f*** nova state is still HARD_REBOOT even if i did already virs destroy domain | 22:00 |
| notze | then restarted all works good | 22:00 |
| notze | but nova doesnt recognize | 22:00 |
| tziOm | hmm.. | 22:00 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1053131 in nova "111_general_aggregates migration does not preserve aggregate_hosts.host data for sqlite" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053131 | 22:01 |
| tziOm | notmyname, could one make every email account a object? | 22:01 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: sure | 22:02 |
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| tziOm | notmyname, and an object would need a filesystem I suppose? | 22:02 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: now you lost me | 22:03 |
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| tziOm | a object in swift terms is a block device? | 22:03 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: no | 22:03 |
| notmyname | tziOm: an object in swift is a blob of data | 22:03 |
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| tziOm | but to do anything useful to the data, one should perhaps have a filesystem on it? | 22:05 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: no, swift does not expose a filesystem | 22:07 |
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| zykes- | tziOm: if you need a filesystem for swift as a "proxy" there are products that does this. | 22:08 |
| zykes- | but it's not recommended for random io and heavier workloads | 22:08 |
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| zykes- | like twinstrata, riverbed whitewater (backup stuff), nasuni etc | 22:09 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: swift provides a REST API to a fairly flat namespace. it can store massive amounts of data, supports very high concurrency, and is ideal for static content that can grow without bound (think backups, archives, web content, etc) | 22:09 |
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| tziOm | so many words I dont understand.. | 22:10 |
| tziOm | notmyname, my problem is understanding how my operating system can access this content.. | 22:11 |
| notmyname | tziOm: swift's API is based on http. there are existing client CLI tools, language bindings, and other 3rd party libraries and tools that provide access | 22:12 |
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| tziOm | isnt http an extremely inefficient protocol for transferring data? | 22:13 |
| lifeless | tziOm: not at all | 22:13 |
| lifeless | tziOm: its 8 bit clean, and you can transfer with arbitrary compression | 22:13 |
| tziOm | notmyname, so do you mean I can "mount" this swift storage as a filesystem? | 22:14 |
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| Mops_ | tziOm: you can't | 22:14 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: you cannot do that without 3rd party tools (ie, it's not part of swift itself). also, there will be performance tradeoffs for doing that, since you'll be combining both file storage and object storage. the general advice is "don't do that" | 22:15 |
| notze | on complete server reboot my nva services are not starting directly since mysql is not ready | 22:15 |
| notze | then they stuck | 22:15 |
| tziOm | notmyname, I still dont understand the difference.. | 22:16 |
| tziOm | notmyname, say I would like to add foo@bar's maildir to swift? I would need to be able to list the content of this storage, write new "files" to it and so on, or is this not how works? | 22:17 |
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| notze | not possible | 22:18 |
| notze | you always have to download the whole maildir | 22:18 |
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| notze | and save the whole | 22:18 |
| notze | you save as object | 22:18 |
| notze | not as file | 22:18 |
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| notze | the diffrence ist block device vs object storage | 22:18 |
| notze | i had the same thinking at the beginning | 22:18 |
| Mops_ | notze: but in a maildir each email is a separate "object" | 22:18 |
| Mops_ | so he can do it | 22:19 |
| notze | yes | 22:19 |
| notze | if you want to do it seperate for each one | 22:19 |
| notze | hf | 22:19 |
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| notze | was hoping that nova-compute works 1:1 with swift as blockstorage so if 1 system goes down next nova-compute can directly use same disk | 22:19 |
| notmyname | ya, that would be nova-volumes/cinder. not swift | 22:20 |
| Mops_ | notmyname: Q: is there anything in a swift proxy that would require disk storage or heavy disk I/O | 22:20 |
| tziOm | Mops_, so could one set a limit on each "object" size? and an object can contain multiple files?.. | 22:20 |
| Mops_ | tziOm: i don't think swift support size quotas | 22:21 |
| Mops_ | as for multiple files in an object | 22:21 |
| Mops_ | if you create such an object why not | 22:21 |
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| Mops_ | but don't think of swift object as "file" | 22:21 |
| Mops_ | it's just a blob of data | 22:21 |
| Mops_ | what's inside of it it's 100% up to you | 22:21 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: no. the proxy does not use the disk | 22:22 |
| tziOm | so how does openstack use this storage for filesystems? add a filesystem to the object? | 22:23 |
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| notmyname | Mops_: well, aside from (re-)loading configs and rings. but the disk isn't in the normal request path on the proxy | 22:23 |
| notmyname | tziOm: it's not used for filesystems | 22:23 |
| notmyname | tziOm: it's a separate class of storage | 22:23 |
| Mops_ | notmyname: tnx | 22:24 |
| tziOm | so I could use it for backup, then? | 22:24 |
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| Mops_ | btw: i'll probably be using WD caviar blacks | 22:24 |
| Mops_ | good price + 5y warranty | 22:24 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: backups are an ideal use case for swift | 22:25 |
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| notze | guys | 22:26 |
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| notze | what can i do that my nova will retry to start if mysql inst ready? | 22:26 |
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| tziOm | notmyname, so I can use amanda for example with swift? | 22:28 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: yes, I think so. in fact, zmanda (the company) has blogged about swift some. I don't know their full level of support for swift, though | 22:30 |
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| tziOm | seems good: http://www.zmanda.com/blogs/?cat=18 | 22:30 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1053150 in nova "nova aggregate-details badID throws a stack trace" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053150 | 22:31 |
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| tziOm | So swift can emulate s3? | 22:37 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: there is a 3rd party plugin to provide S3 compatibility. https://github.com/fujita/swift3 | 22:38 |
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| tziOm | ok, thanks | 22:40 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1053154 in quantum "Error in flat and local network creation in Cisco plugin" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1053154 | 22:41 |
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| tziOm | notmyname, as I understand it, swift can run some kind software raid across hosts. How will this work with machines located far apart? | 22:42 |
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| notmyname | tziOm: swift does not use RAID nor does it stripe across multiple disks or servers. each replica is stored as a complete file in different places | 22:43 |
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| tziOm | notmyname, yeah | 22:45 |
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