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| JayLee | Hi guys, | 01:11 |
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| JayLee | I found a bug about virtual interface creation failed. | 01:11 |
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| JayLee | Could anyone review that bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1062097 | 01:12 |
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| zodiak | JayLee, not my area but let me have a look see | 01:15 |
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| zodiak | yeah, that original python doesn't "smell right" .. capture any exception and than raise a DB one ? yeah. not right | 01:17 |
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| zodiak | JayLee, sounds like it's time to make a test and git review ;) | 01:19 |
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| JayLee | zodiak, Thx to review- | 01:43 |
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| atrius | i honestly can't prove 100% that the folsom based VMs were slower.. but they sure seemed dog slow for some reason... i'm dropping back to Essex on a freshly loaded machine to see if the issue persists | 02:06 |
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| kseifried | atrius: linbench/bonnie/etc? | 02:35 |
| kseifried | atrius, : it's entirely possible that it's slower :P | 02:35 |
| kseifried | linmark rather | 02:36 |
| atrius | kseifried: everything was slower | 02:36 |
| kseifried | linpack? sorry my brain just fritzed | 02:36 |
| kseifried | atrius, : felt slower. or WAS slower? | 02:36 |
| atrius | ssh logins were slow enough i could make coffee waiting for them | 02:36 |
| kseifried | e.g. you have benchmarks to back it up? | 02:36 |
| kseifried | that's DNS timeout | 02:36 |
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| atrius | not beyond having time to make coffee :D | 02:36 |
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| kseifried | atrius, : "w" shows what, IP's or hostnames? I'm guessig ips =) | 02:37 |
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| kseifried | atrius, : ssh doesn't require any real cpu/etc. if it's slow just for login, that's almost always 99.99999999% DNS issue | 02:38 |
| atrius | other ops were slow as well though.. that said.. i'm honestly not 100% sure as in i can prove it.. but given that it seems that horizon required quantum and i don't want to get into that anyway... i just decided to drop back to essex for now... let folsom cook a bit longer | 02:38 |
| atrius | probably.. but this was incredibly slow | 02:38 |
| kseifried | ok well fucked up DNS would impact a lot of things | 02:38 |
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| kseifried | so fix that and try again | 02:38 |
| atrius | not "i'm trying to do reverse look ups" slow... but "holy crap are you kidding me?!" slow | 02:38 |
| kseifried | I love how people complain about "slow" but have no facts to back it up :P gather real data. proove it! | 02:38 |
| atrius | lol | 02:38 |
| kseifried | then we can fix it | 02:39 |
| atrius | i'll totally grant i've got nothing more than impressions for data :-) so i'm not really complaining complaining, if you know what i mean | 02:39 |
| kseifried | like this: | 02:39 |
| kseifried | http://kurt.seifried.org/2010/05/01/it-feels-slow-testing-and-verifying-your-network-connection/ | 02:39 |
| kseifried | you're basically whining and making stuff up at this point which isn't helpful :P | 02:39 |
| atrius | :p | 02:39 |
| atrius | :D | 02:39 |
| kseifried | if it is slower, for real, then please, report it, it's a problem! | 02:39 |
| kseifried | but to do so you need data to back it up | 02:40 |
| atrius | i can take another crack at it later... for now, i need things to work (POC coming up) | 02:40 |
| kseifried | like I said, DNS. IO. CPU. etc. | 02:40 |
| kseifried | test and measure those things | 02:40 |
| atrius | that said... aside from "newer", is there any serious heavy features i'd be missing out on that makes working on it (right now) worth it? | 02:41 |
| kseifried | I've only lightly played with folsom | 02:41 |
| kseifried | er essex | 02:41 |
| kseifried | sorry brainfart | 02:41 |
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| atrius | :D not enough coffee? too much? :D | 02:42 |
| kseifried | my problem is I know a little about a lot, especxially openstack | 02:42 |
| kseifried | I'm the security guy, I don't actually do this in productions | 02:42 |
| kseifried | but as far as performance/availability goes, you need to measure things | 02:43 |
| kseifried | otherwise we're all just guessing | 02:43 |
| atrius | true | 02:43 |
| kseifried | I mean honestly | 02:43 |
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| kseifried | my P100/8megs ram, 1meg video card "feels" about the same as my current desktop (6core, 16 gigs ram, I duno, maybe 1-2 gigs video ram?) =) | 02:43 |
| kseifried | but then I realize I'm doing things like grep'ing 60gigs of source code rather than 60k of course code | 02:44 |
| kseifried | and so on | 02:44 |
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| kseifried | so yeah it feels about the same, but I'm doing about 1000times more... | 02:44 |
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| kseifried | like right now I'm rsync'ing some data... but it's 780Gigs.... | 02:45 |
| kseifried | more data than I used to know existed in the world =) | 02:45 |
| atrius | lol | 02:45 |
| atrius | it still blows me away how cheap storage is these days.. and how much data we have to fill it all | 02:46 |
| kseifried | yah | 02:46 |
| kseifried | I got 5+TB of data now at home. | 02:46 |
| kseifried | insanity | 02:46 |
| atrius | hell, it amazes me how much we can even get at home.. let alone with company budgets | 02:46 |
| kseifried | yah | 02:46 |
| kseifried | I think I have like 1.5TB of SSD now | 02:46 |
| kseifried | let alone disk. it's nuts | 02:46 |
| atrius | yeah.. when i'm done with my home storage server it'll end up with some 24TB... in the back of my mind i'm thinking "i'll never fill it!!" yeah right | 02:46 |
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| atrius | now that's one thing i don't actually have any of yet.. SSDs | 02:47 |
| atrius | though i'll probably be ordering my first one soon | 02:47 |
| kseifried | oh dude | 02:47 |
| kseifried | you are missing out | 02:47 |
| kseifried | for system drives.. holy heck | 02:47 |
| kseifried | and for work space... | 02:47 |
| kseifried | like unpack 60G of tarballs... on SSD vs disk... | 02:47 |
| atrius | i've been waiting for them to come down in price to something more reasonable... well.. that and the new wife is far more understanding of such things than old wife :D | 02:48 |
| atrius | lol | 02:48 |
| kseifried | yeah 480gig Intel SSD for <1$/gig now/ wow. | 02:48 |
| kseifried | dude they | 02:48 |
| atrius | yeah | 02:48 |
| kseifried | re all <1$ a gig now | 02:49 |
| atrius | friend of mine has a 15k SAS drive for his system drive... bloody hell that thing is fast too | 02:50 |
| kseifried | hahaha | 02:50 |
| kseifried | whaat a waste | 02:50 |
| atrius | lol | 02:50 |
| kseifried | hd latency is still about 1000X a cheap SSD | 02:50 |
| atrius | SSDs were at like 20 a gig or something insane when he did it... made sense at the time | 02:50 |
| kseifried | I went ssd's about about that price, well $10 a gig | 02:51 |
| kseifried | so worth it | 02:51 |
| kseifried | HD's are basically tape drives at this point | 02:52 |
| kseifried | large and slow | 02:52 |
| atrius | i've been kicking around getting an SSD to boost the storage server's performance (ZFS)... or one for a system drive in my main machine | 02:52 |
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| kseifried | dude.. | 02:52 |
| kseifried | you are literally wasting your time by not doing it | 02:52 |
| kseifried | ZFS talks multiple storage layers | 02:52 |
| kseifried | and for the fact it costs about $200 now... | 02:53 |
| kseifried | th time you spend thinking about it costs more than just doing it | 02:53 |
| atrius | lol | 02:53 |
| atrius | you make a good case :D | 02:53 |
| kseifried | so for me the payback on a $200 drive was | 02:53 |
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| kseifried | if it saves say 1 minute per work day | 02:53 |
| kseifried | so ~250 minutes a year | 02:54 |
| kseifried | that's 4 hours a year | 02:54 |
| kseifried | that pay for itself | 02:54 |
| kseifried | and it saves a LOT more than 1 minute per day | 02:54 |
| kseifried | ad on servers it's a no brainer | 02:55 |
| kseifried | get a $2000 PCIex card that saves say 30 seocnds per user per day, pay off is in the months | 02:55 |
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| atrius | oh, all the above was just for me at home... at work we've gone to SSDs and the like for all kinds of stuff | 02:56 |
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| kseifried | yah | 02:56 |
| kseifried | honestly I find it funny that apple getsit | 02:56 |
| kseifried | and noone else does :P | 02:56 |
| atrius | sorry.. i just read everything you said... i think i need more/less coffee... lol | 02:56 |
| kseifried | my ipad is a damn magic slab | 02:56 |
| kseifried | turns on in "poof" and so on | 02:57 |
| atrius | yeah, solid state is amazing | 02:58 |
| atrius | one thing i kick myself for is not getting a switch with enough ports at home... now that i've decided to go with port bonding as much as i am.. i'm going to run out of bloody ports on that switch | 02:58 |
| atrius | oh well... it's a solvable problem.. just annoying | 02:59 |
| kseifried | just get a cheap 16 port managed switch | 02:59 |
| kseifried | or 64 or whatever | 02:59 |
| atrius | yeah.. i'll end up with more like 24 ports or so.. probably more.. depends on whether i get stackable ones or not (i probably will.. why not? :D ) | 02:59 |
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| atrius | hmmm... zfs or ceph for the back end storage... do you know anyone who have deployed ceph in production? | 03:00 |
| kseifried | dude | 03:01 |
| kseifried | I'm a redhat guy | 03:01 |
| kseifried | you should use glusterfs =) | 03:01 |
| atrius | lol | 03:01 |
| atrius | okay... why should i? :D | 03:01 |
| kseifried | cause it's good | 03:02 |
| kseifried | although it;'s mean for multiple servers | 03:02 |
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| kseifried | atrius, : do you like bacon? | 03:03 |
| atrius | kseifried: random.. but sure | 03:04 |
| kseifried | ok | 03:04 |
| kseifried | so ssd's are basically bacin | 03:04 |
| kseifried | bacon | 03:04 |
| kseifried | pricier sure | 03:04 |
| kseifried | but so worth it =( | 03:04 |
| kseifried | =) | 03:04 |
| atrius | lol | 03:04 |
| atrius | as to gluster.. i was also thinking of using it | 03:04 |
| kseifried | QED. BOOYAH! | 03:04 |
| kseifried | gluster is the shit for things like server backends | 03:05 |
| kseifried | I use it for webservers | 03:05 |
| kseifried | web server A to gluster A, back end gluster blob | 03:05 |
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| kseifried | scaled out to N gluster servers | 03:05 |
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| kseifried | and N web servers | 03:06 |
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| atrius | but how well does it handle being backing storage for VMs? | 03:06 |
| kseifried | let me check what I can say | 03:06 |
| kseifried | ah https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/home/tags/gluster?lang=en | 03:06 |
| kseifried | https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/ibmvirtualization/entry/upcoming_features_in_kvm_promise_greater_ease_of_use_and_security?lang=en | 03:07 |
| kseifried | I can't comment on this but I can post some public pages =) | 03:07 |
| atrius | :D | 03:08 |
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| kseifried | ok so it is public | 03:09 |
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| kseifried | yeah you can soon do glusterFS backed VMs | 03:09 |
| kseifried | which will fricking rock for reliability/performance | 03:09 |
| atrius | true.. and i've read where some people have done it... but they were short on the "and we're using this for real live production" bits | 03:10 |
| kseifried | get some cheap servers, heck maybe some cheap ones with SSD's and booyah. VMs booting off of highly survivable/fast storage | 03:10 |
| kseifried | atrius, : It'll be mainstream in <12 months, probably in <6 months | 03:10 |
| kseifried | or so I heard. =) | 03:10 |
| kseifried | but yeah. glusterfs is rocking | 03:10 |
| atrius | we're moving from our current environment to our new one in like three months or so | 03:11 |
| kseifried | I can't comment on that | 03:11 |
| kseifried | =) | 03:11 |
| kseifried | but you can plan you system to move to glusterfs | 03:11 |
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| kseifried | although it's pretty easy | 03:11 |
| atrius | thus, the dilemma | 03:11 |
| atrius | true | 03:11 |
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| kseifried | the reality is the new IT is service based | 03:12 |
| kseifried | not server/etc based | 03:12 |
| kseifried | and most _modern_ services can easily be distributed/made highly reliable | 03:12 |
| atrius | yeah.. this is true... and i won't lie.. there are times when that is a bit scary... given how easy that makes it to send jobs to... places of lower cost | 03:13 |
| kseifried | the beauty is glusterfs just works (TM) | 03:13 |
| kseifried | atrius, : nah | 03:13 |
| kseifried | atrius, : we';ll always need higher end guys to build these services | 03:13 |
| kseifried | so I did a presentation | 03:13 |
| kseifried | one point I make is simply: 10 years ago a GOOD admin handles 50 servers | 03:13 |
| kseifried | would you agree with that? | 03:14 |
| atrius | hmmm... well... 10 years ago i was handling over 100... but in general, yeah | 03:14 |
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| kseifried | ok so now we're looking at minimum 500, probably 5,000. and in many cases 50,000. | 03:14 |
| kseifried | per admin | 03:14 |
| kseifried | so the people that can set those things up/manage them... | 03:15 |
| kseifried | I wouldn't worry about the cheap labour concern =) | 03:15 |
| atrius | which in reality isn't that much harder... not really anyway (at least if you have a clue) | 03:15 |
| kseifried | exactly | 03:15 |
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| kseifried | here's thing thing | 03:16 |
| kseifried | if we wanted to make sure people had jobs | 03:16 |
| atrius | of course, the counter argument is that there is a certain quality to quantity... each of the cheaper people may not be able to handle as much.. but you sure do get a lot of them... that logic frequently breaks down.. but only after the damage is done if you get me | 03:16 |
| kseifried | we'd dig ditches and do streek repairs with spoons. | 03:16 |
| kseifried | street | 03:16 |
| atrius | lol, true | 03:16 |
| kseifried | but everytime I see people digging, they're using backhoes =) | 03:16 |
| kseifried | and I don't see anyone competent at IT I know not having a job | 03:17 |
| atrius | except in China... where they don't use spoons but i have seen them use gangs of people with shovels.. for exactly the reason you named | 03:17 |
| atrius | (the wife is Chinese) | 03:17 |
| kseifried | ouch | 03:17 |
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| atrius | keeps people employed | 03:17 |
| kseifried | my advice: work on your value add and you won't have any problems | 03:17 |
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| atrius | same reason you don't see street sweepers over there... but you do see veritable armies of people with brooms like it was the 1910s or 20s | 03:18 |
| atrius | true | 03:18 |
| atrius | that's part of the reason i'm moving my skill set into cloud "stuff"... the writing is on the wall for certain segments after all | 03:18 |
| kseifried | check out cloudsecurityalliance.org | 03:18 |
| atrius | geeze.. who _isn't_ a corporate member? | 03:20 |
| kseifried | uhmmm | 03:20 |
| kseifried | agai I'm not allowed to say =) | 03:20 |
| kseifried | but basically I think uhhh | 03:20 |
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| atrius | lol | 03:21 |
| kseifried | dell | 03:21 |
| kseifried | novell/suse | 03:21 |
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| kseifried | surprisngly most of the linux world is not a member other than redhat | 03:21 |
| kseifried | but yeah basically =) | 03:22 |
| atrius | huh... wonder why? too "closed" for them? | 03:22 |
| kseifried | perceived value | 03:22 |
| kseifried | most aren't really shipping good cloud products | 03:22 |
| kseifried | most will repackage some | 03:23 |
| atrius | and thus no interest for them | 03:23 |
| atrius | i didn't see canocal in there, did i just over look them? | 03:23 |
| kseifried | I dunno. canm't say | 03:23 |
| kseifried | nope | 03:23 |
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| jeremyb | kseifried: i meant to talk to other users. anyway, figured it out | 04:10 |
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| jeremyb | turns out when there's an error message you're just told there's an error but not what the msg is. you have to ask explicitly for the msg. (and it doesn't hint that you need to) | 04:11 |
| jeremyb | anyway, </offtopic> | 04:11 |
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| wzssyqa | glance image-create give an error 404, any problem? | 07:11 |
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| zykes- | check your endpoints wzssyqa | 07:13 |
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| SkyMan | hi stackers | 07:22 |
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| SkyMan | i am experiencing a problem with the new Horizon | 07:24 |
| SkyMan | it's not giving me a proper display | 07:24 |
| SkyMan | i checked in the apache error log and found this | 07:24 |
| SkyMan | http://pastebin.com/P44Edku5 | 07:24 |
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| SkyMan | Can anyone please help me out ? | 07:24 |
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| wzssyqa | zykes-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1267026/ | 07:28 |
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| SkyMan | Anyone has a clue ? | 07:30 |
| wzssyqa | SkyMan: you didn't create the needed endpoint? | 07:31 |
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| SkyMan | wzssyqa: No, all the endpoints are working fine, i checked them with keystone endpoint-list | 07:32 |
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| dguerri | hi all… i've go a very strange problem with dhcp and bridges made by nova-compute for the VMs connectivity… I sniffed on each interface (physical, bridge and vnet*) and it seems DHCP response doesn't cross the bridge | 07:51 |
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| dguerri | other traffic (like arp requests) seem to work properly | 07:52 |
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| SkyMan | People of OpenStack | 07:52 |
| SkyMan | i need some heeeeelp plz | 07:52 |
| SkyMan | http://pastebin.com/P44Edku5 | 07:53 |
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| chincloud | hi all | 07:55 |
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| chincloud | SkyMan: plesae check your endpoint url | 07:57 |
| chincloud | EndpointNotFound: Endpoint not found. | 07:57 |
| chincloud | its self explanatory error | 07:57 |
| SkyMan | chincloud: i checked them, this is the script i used to populate my database: https://github.com/EmilienM/openstack-folsom-guide/blob/master/scripts/keystone-endpoints.sh | 07:57 |
| SkyMan | chincloud:To me, they are all fine, what do you think ? | 07:58 |
| chincloud | do you have the IP 192.168.0.1 ? | 07:58 |
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| SkyMan | chincloud: Yes, that's my bridge address , why ? | 07:59 |
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| SkyMan | chincloud: ahh , i have change that 192.168.0.1 to my controller node address | 08:02 |
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| uksysadmin | hello all | 08:16 |
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| troya | hi all | 09:08 |
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| troya | anyone know about how to resize resource on openstack instance ? | 09:08 |
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| melmoth | hmmm, i m confused with the doc about quantum. is it needed to install the quantum plugin in the controller node where quantum-server runs ? | 09:40 |
| melmoth | (knowing that the manager node is not hooked to the fixed network link anyway) | 09:40 |
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| wzssyqa | melmoth: yes | 09:42 |
| melmoth | ok. thanks. | 09:43 |
| wzssyqa | melmoth: and the agent should be installed on the compute node or something else | 09:43 |
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| wzssyqa | melmoth: you can not install python code to an cisco switch, then there is no cisco agent | 09:44 |
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| melmoth | i ll do my first tets with openvswitch plugins.. looks like it s the most "popular" | 09:45 |
| melmoth | at least the one the doc mention the most. | 09:45 |
| * melmoth has a strange feeling he has no idea what he is doing :) | 09:45 | |
| * uksysadmin sends his sympathy to melmoth (but at the same time happy for him to make notes I can refer to ;-)) | 09:46 | |
| melmoth | i m writing notes stuff in a txt file, just in case it works i can do it again. | 09:47 |
| melmoth | but i have my doubts. | 09:47 |
| uksysadmin | that's how I end up writing bash scripts for all this - they're essentially my notes | 09:48 |
| uksysadmin | one day, I'll have to let go an embrace chef and/or puppet ;-) | 09:48 |
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| melmoth | hmm, i have set rabbit_user_id to "nova" in quantum.conf (same user as the whole nova stuff), but when i start quantum-server, there s a python backtrace about not being able to connect to the amqp server | 10:24 |
| melmoth | and the amqp server logs tells me "AMQPLAIN login refused: user 'guest' - invalid credentials", | 10:24 |
| melmoth | looks to me quatum does not try to access rabbit as the user i have defined. | 10:24 |
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| foexle | melmoth: your post ? https://answers.launchpad.net/quantum/+question/208446 | 10:25 |
| melmoth | nopen i haven yet install the dhcp service | 10:26 |
| foexle | do you have tried rabbit_userid instead of rabbit_user_id ? | 10:26 |
| foexle | i'll take a look into the code ... one sec | 10:27 |
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| melmoth | nope. Let me try that | 10:27 |
| One-Man-Bucket | it seems ubuntu sometimes tries to start glance-registry before mysqld | 10:27 |
| melmoth | hmm, looks better | 10:27 |
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| foexle | /usr/share/pyshared/quantum/openstack/common/rpc/impl_kombu.py: cfg.StrOpt('rabbit_userid', | 10:28 |
| foexle | its rabbit_userid | 10:29 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | hmm i deleted a network, but there was a terminated instance that had a reference to the deleted network, now i can't get rid of it | 10:38 |
| One-Man-Bucket | or launch new instances | 10:38 |
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| foexle | One-Man-Bucket: a terminated instance ? °° .... normally if an instances have deleted=1 you don't have a existing reference in your database. The ip will released | 10:40 |
| foexle | One-Man-Bucket: if you have really inconsitency in your db ... you need to fix it by hand | 10:41 |
| One-Man-Bucket | exception.NetworkNotFound(network_id=network_id)\n', u'NetworkNotFound: Network 1 could not be found.\n'] | 10:42 |
| One-Man-Bucket | is what i see in nova-compute.log | 10:42 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | and network with index 1 is gone | 10:42 |
| foexle | you're using essex or folsom ? | 10:42 |
| One-Man-Bucket | essex | 10:43 |
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| foexle | take a look into the db if an instance is marked with this network and deleted=0 | 10:44 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | hmm, where's the reference from instance -> network? | 10:48 |
| foexle | fixed_ips and virtual_interfaces | 10:49 |
| One-Man-Bucket | yeah, there's one row in virtual_interfaces that references the deleted network | 10:50 |
| One-Man-Bucket | is it safe to drop it? | 10:50 |
| One-Man-Bucket | and all the fixed_ips are still present for even the old networks | 10:51 |
| foexle | dont delete | 10:51 |
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| foexle | only update to deleted=1 | 10:51 |
| One-Man-Bucket | ok | 10:52 |
| One-Man-Bucket | also for each fixed_ip row with the old network? | 10:52 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | hmm, fixed_address = fixed_ips[0][\'address\']\n', 'IndexError: list index out of range\n' | 10:55 |
| One-Man-Bucket | i nova-network.log | 10:55 |
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| melmoth | One-Man-Bucket, there was a bug.. apparently it s still there | 10:58 |
| melmoth | when you delete a fixed netwtrok, things were not removed from the fixed_ips table | 10:59 |
| melmoth | so delete ip associated to the not existing anymore network there | 10:59 |
| melmoth | and cross your fingers | 10:59 |
| One-Man-Bucket | i think i'm going to re-install everything | 10:59 |
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| melmoth | what i do is a backup of the nova database just after a fresh install. | 11:00 |
| melmoth | before i play with the networks... "just in case" :-) | 11:00 |
| One-Man-Bucket | yeah that seems like a good idea | 11:00 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | hmm | 11:12 |
| One-Man-Bucket | what happens if you check the "virtual machine host" option during the ubuntu install? | 11:12 |
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| melmoth | One-Man-Bucket, i think it install libvirt kvm virt-install and things | 11:33 |
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| oneiroi | Hi all getting an issue with horizon and keystone seeing this in the logs: 2012-10-08 12:42:16 DEBUG [keystone.common.wsgi] openstack.params = {u'auth': {u'tenantName': u'service', u'passwordCredentials': {u'username': u'nova', u'password': u'servicepass'}}} | 11:42 |
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| oneiroi | those credentials are certainly incorrect, any ideas where they are being picked up from? | 11:43 |
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| foexle | oneiroi: if you login with your creds, horizon will ask keystone with your creds | 11:46 |
| One-Man-Bucket | ok | 11:47 |
| foexle | oneiroi: you can configure keystone in your local_settings.py | 11:47 |
| oneiroi | foexle: I am, that's the weird thing | 11:47 |
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| oneiroi | foexle: aha user error, nova galnce et al, are misconfigured. | 11:50 |
| oneiroi | glance* | 11:50 |
| foexle | glance ? ... ah ok | 11:50 |
| oneiroi | thanks for the heads up on local_settings.py though :) | 11:50 |
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| foexle | you're welcome | 11:51 |
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| janisg | what is physical network name meant to be in quantum documentation? | 11:57 |
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| janisg | interface name? | 11:57 |
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| oneiroi | janisg: iirc yes the primary interface name of the host | 11:59 |
| janisg | thats the interface where all vlans are connected? | 11:59 |
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| janisg | or what's that ? | 12:00 |
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| janisg | for example i have interface eth3 where vlans 1-4 are coming in | 12:01 |
| janisg | what should I put in ovs_quantum_plugin.ini bridge_mappings? | 12:01 |
| janisg | eth3:br-eth3? | 12:01 |
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| melmoth | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/install_quantum-l3.html | 12:04 |
| melmoth | so, it says i need _not_ to have an ip on my dhcp node eth0 | 12:04 |
| melmoth | all right, i remove it, no probelmo | 12:05 |
| melmoth | but then, of course i cannot connect to it anymore... | 12:05 |
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| melmoth | and if i try to cnnect to eth1 , ip , does not work neoither, most proabably due to the ovs switch command i ran without having any clue what i was doing | 12:05 |
| melmoth | so yeah..i got a machine with all nics not available anymore. i guess it s not going to work. | 12:06 |
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| janisg | i think its not eth0 but the interface where the external network will be mapped | 12:07 |
| melmoth | it is eth0 in my case. (this is the nic i would use for the floating ip if i was to use nova-network) | 12:07 |
| janisg | well then it's correct ;> | 12:07 |
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| melmoth | and eth1 is the static one where i build the ovs bridge | 12:08 |
| One-Man-Bucket | i get an internal server error when trying to access my newly installed openstack dashboard.. and the error log says error] No handlers could be found for logger "openstack_dashboard | 12:08 |
| One-Man-Bucket | any idea what i could have missed? | 12:08 |
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| melmoth | there s a setting that enable debug mode in the dashboard | 12:09 |
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| melmoth | so the doc http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/install_quantum-l3.html mention "you must run the command within a particular router's network namespace." | 12:09 |
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| janisg | well | 12:10 |
| melmoth | how do i list existing "router", and get their names ? | 12:10 |
| janisg | ip netns | 12:10 |
| melmoth | thanks | 12:10 |
| janisg | you will see the namespaces | 12:10 |
| janisg | and router will start with qrouter- | 12:10 |
| janisg | networks with qdhcp | 12:10 |
| melmoth | no output... | 12:10 |
| janisg | then just ip netns <namespace-id> ifconfig | 12:10 |
| melmoth | i must have missed something | 12:10 |
| One-Man-Bucket | hmm there seems to be something wrong with my nova install | 12:10 |
| janisg | the namespaces are created when you create networks through quantum | 12:11 |
| zykes- | namespaces btw are not supported with security grups | 12:11 |
| One-Man-Bucket | root@essex1:/var/log/apache2# nova image-list | 12:11 |
| One-Man-Bucket | ERROR: string indices must be integers, not str | 12:11 |
| zykes- | just as a heads up! | 12:11 |
| janisg | quantum net-create, quantum subnet-create | 12:11 |
| melmoth | i havent created any netowrk yet | 12:11 |
| janisg | i think after creating subnet the dhcp will show up | 12:11 |
| melmoth | ok | 12:11 |
| janisg | and routers correspond to routers | 12:11 |
| janisg | so if ytou create router then check namespace for router | 12:11 |
| melmoth | i just wonder how communication will/can work with my unconnected node.... | 12:12 |
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| janisg | what do you mean unconnected? | 12:12 |
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| melmoth | well, i removed the adress on eth0, and i cannot connect to the ip on eth1 from others node | 12:12 |
| janisg | then you are fucked | 12:12 |
| janisg | ;> | 12:13 |
| melmoth | that s the feeling i have.. | 12:13 |
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| melmoth | proper fucked. | 12:13 |
| janisg | then quantum-server should be able to communicate with the agents | 12:13 |
| janisg | and vice versa | 12:13 |
| One-Man-Bucket | ah, error in api-paste.ini | 12:14 |
| janisg | oneiroi, have you had working VLAN setup with Folsom+quantum? | 12:14 |
| oneiroi | janisg: way down my todo list I'm afraid atm | 12:15 |
| zykes- | janisg: are you using OVS? | 12:15 |
| janisg | yes | 12:15 |
| janisg | i want to test how provider networks work | 12:16 |
| zykes- | janisg: what kind of problem are you getting ? | 12:16 |
| janisg | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/provider_api_workflow.html | 12:16 |
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| janisg | trying to execute command for creating vlan provider network | 12:16 |
| janisg | and get back: Invalid input for operation: unknown provider:physical_network default. | 12:16 |
| janisg | i'm not sure what is meant with physical_network | 12:16 |
| janisg | is it something in quantum, a physical interface, ovs device, or what? | 12:17 |
| zykes- | janisg: a physical network is the "physical" network set in your .ini file fyi | 12:18 |
| zykes- | you can typically see it in bridge_mappings | 12:18 |
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| janisg | hmm | 12:19 |
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| janisg | the doc says | 12:20 |
| janisg | # (ListOpt) Comma-separated list of <physical_network>:<bridge> tuples | 12:20 |
| janisg | # mapping physical network names to the agent's node-specific OVS | 12:20 |
| janisg | # bridge names to be used for flat and VLAN networks. Each bridge must | 12:20 |
| janisg | # exist, and should have a physical network interface configured as a | 12:20 |
| janisg | # port. All physical networks listed in network_vlan_ranges on the | 12:20 |
| janisg | # server should have mappings to appropriate bridges on each agent. | 12:20 |
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| janisg | the pysical network it whatever i choose it to be? | 12:20 |
| janisg | s/it/is/ | 12:20 |
| zykes- | Think so | 12:20 |
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| janisg | well makes sense, then othervise how quantum would know whats going on each node | 12:21 |
| janisg | if it's not inside plugin conf | 12:21 |
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| zykes- | :) | 12:21 |
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| janisg | no still doesn't work | 12:26 |
| janisg | # quantum net-create vlan1501 --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network default --provider:segmentation_id 1501 | 12:26 |
| janisg | Invalid input for operation: unknown provider:physical_network default. | 12:26 |
| zykes- | hmmm | 12:26 |
| zykes- | what are provider networks for again ? | 12:26 |
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| janisg | direct mapping of ips to vms | 12:27 |
| janisg | without fixed ips in the middle | 12:27 |
| zykes- | huh ? | 12:27 |
| janisg | Provider networks allow cloud administrators to create Quantum networks that map directly to physical networks in the data center. | 12:28 |
| zykes- | ah | 12:28 |
| janisg | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/provider_networks.html | 12:28 |
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| melmoth | so, it looks like i have added the wrong nic to the ovs port with ovs-vsctl. doc says to add the port to the public nic | 12:28 |
| melmoth | so now, i still do not have any adresses on the eth0 nic, but i can connect back to eth1 (fixed network) | 12:29 |
| janisg | you should add your eth0 to br-ex manually | 12:29 |
| melmoth | done. | 12:29 |
| melmoth | but there s no ip | 12:29 |
| janisg | and there won't be | 12:29 |
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| melmoth | so doe sit mean i should have done all that only after creating some quantum network ? (the doc does not mention this step) | 12:29 |
| melmoth | if there s no ip, how can this node running dhcp and l3 stuf communicate with the quantum-server node ? | 12:30 |
| janisg | you should have additional interface where service network is conected, where you can connect for administrative purposes | 12:30 |
| melmoth | hmmm. | 12:30 |
| janisg | and that would be the network where quantum and other nova services will use as a service bus | 12:31 |
| melmoth | so, unlike what is happening with nova-network, the nic for the "floating network" is a dedicated nic ? | 12:31 |
| janisg | and for other required connections | 12:31 |
| melmoth | ok, things get a bit clearer. | 12:31 |
| janisg | basically you need to have 2 nics | 12:31 |
| janisg | one is reserved for floating ips | 12:31 |
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| janisg | and other is where you set something like 192.168.0.0/24 | 12:31 |
| melmoth | only 2 ? what about the "fixed" network where all the vms are connected ? | 12:32 |
| * melmoth is confused | 12:32 | |
| janisg | and that net is set on all openstack nodes | 12:32 |
| janisg | if you are just playing around you don't need to worry about fixed network | 12:33 |
| janisg | if it's single node | 12:33 |
| melmoth | it s node. | 12:33 |
| melmoth | i mean it s not. | 12:33 |
| melmoth | i have a manager node, a "messaging one", and " compute nodes (1 of wich running dhcp and l3 stuff) | 12:33 |
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| janisg | oh then you might want another phisical interface :> | 12:34 |
| melmoth | when using nova-network, all compute nodes had 2 nic, 1 on th esame network as the floating ip (and the other nodes), 1 bridged (or vlanned) to the static network for th evms | 12:34 |
| janisg | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/connectivity.html | 12:34 |
| janisg | you trying to do as here? | 12:34 |
| melmoth | yep | 12:35 |
| melmoth | ok... i see | 12:35 |
| melmoth | i di dnot pay notice the dhcp node was plugged in 3 networks. | 12:35 |
| janisg | red it what you should use for ssh | 12:35 |
| Triade | Hi there | 12:35 |
| Triade | just an easy question, when I use a nova command such as "nova list" | 12:36 |
| janisg | zykes-, anything about provider networks ? :/ | 12:36 |
| Triade | I have to enter the password: Please input your password for the keyring | 12:36 |
| Triade | How can I skip this? | 12:37 |
| Triade | disable keyring | 12:37 |
| janisg | alias nova='nova --no-cache' | 12:37 |
| Triade | k ;) | 12:37 |
| janisg | in bash | 12:37 |
| Triade | thx janisg | 12:37 |
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| janisg | I think the docs lacks some info on provider networks ;> | 12:47 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | hmm, can i get nova to launch images with a default key? | 13:51 |
| One-Man-Bucket | i'm provisioning vm's from jenkins via jclouds | 13:51 |
| One-Man-Bucket | but i can't seem to find anywhere to set a keypair | 13:52 |
| One-Man-Bucket | so instances start without a keypair set | 13:52 |
| melmoth | i use to set one when i run nova-boor or euca-run-instance, but i do not know if there s a way to set a default one | 13:52 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | hmm jclouds docs say: "injection of an SSH key from the JClouds is not working (but working for the registered user's default key) | 13:56 |
| One-Man-Bucket | injection of an SSH key from the JClouds is not working (but working for the registered user's default key) | 13:56 |
| One-Man-Bucket | ops, sorry for double paste | 13:56 |
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| melmoth | i never used jclouds, but it sounds like all you have to do is ssh-keygen , so you have a default one ? | 13:57 |
| One-Man-Bucket | i have a keypair added | 13:57 |
| One-Man-Bucket | and it works as expected | 13:57 |
| One-Man-Bucket | but i have to explicitly specify that keypair, otherwise the VM boots with no keypair set | 13:57 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-authentication-authorization.html | 14:22 |
| One-Man-Bucket | can i set something like credential_key_file to make use of a default key? | 14:22 |
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| sibi_a | Hello all, a small question I had raised few days ago.. | 14:31 |
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| sibi_a | I wish to bring in swift APIs for an existing cloud storage.. I read a bit on swift and it looks like the proxy is the front-end receiving all the requests.. | 14:31 |
| sibi_a | So for me it is not necessary that the object/container servers are managing the files. | 14:31 |
| sibi_a | Rather the proxy server can pass on the calls to a 'custom' interface for an existing storage system. Is this possible ? | 14:31 |
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| sibi_a | Would this make me to instrument object server on my own.. any other options ? | 14:31 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | is it possible to set a default key for a user? So that if i start an instance without specifying a keypair, openstack will use a default one? | 14:47 |
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| uksysadmin | Daviey - you around? | 14:51 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: I'm never not :) | 14:51 |
| uksysadmin | :) | 14:51 |
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| uksysadmin | Quick update on that iptables SNAT thing: I had a config (ip) set in nova.conf to do with source routing [smoking gun...] so removed that option | 14:52 |
| uksysadmin | all is good with the world now | 14:52 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin: Happen to have a diff of your nova.conf? | 14:53 |
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| Daviey | diff might help explain what you mean... :) | 14:53 |
| uksysadmin | Daviey, the config was: routing_source_ip= | 14:53 |
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| uksysadmin | I set to be the IP of my host | 14:54 |
| Daviey | ahh | 14:54 |
| Daviey | so it was black-holing to lo? | 14:54 |
| uksysadmin | the err was a syntax error | 14:54 |
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| Daviey | Oh! | 14:54 |
| uksysadmin | indeed | 14:54 |
| Daviey | uksysadmin-- | 14:55 |
| uksysadmin | I'll do more testing - I've just been happy working with a useful setup | 14:55 |
| Daviey | Thanks for sharing uksysadmin | 14:55 |
| uksysadmin | np - got side-tracked last week to let you know | 14:55 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | you guys know if i can specify a default keypair? | 14:58 |
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| egoitz | Hi! | 15:09 |
| egoitz | One little question | 15:09 |
| egoitz | the xensm driver for nova volume.... | 15:09 |
| egoitz | http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/xensmconfig.html | 15:09 |
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| egoitz | should allow creating volumes at xcp host¿ | 15:09 |
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| egoitz | I have nova-volume running as pv guest | 15:10 |
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| lotreck | how does one boot a vm for a different tenant ? I don't see a --tenant-id option for the 'nova boot' cmd | 15:11 |
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| janisg | i think | 15:14 |
| janisg | nova command uses the tenant you have set in environment | 15:14 |
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| janisg | yes but this probably dont help | 15:15 |
| janisg | here | 15:15 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | i guess i'll have to burn a key onto the image, then | 15:15 |
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| Dieterbe | if i have 6 storage servers, 3 in rack A and 3 in rack B, and want to maintain 3 replicas of all files, how should i best configure my zones if i want to make sure each rack has at least 1 copy) ? it seems swift is not rack aware? | 15:18 |
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| swifterdarrell | Dieterbe: with a recent version of swift (the the as-unique-as-possible ring code), you can have each set of 3 servers in each rack be different zones (2 zones total). That will ensure 1 replica of every object in each rack. | 15:20 |
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| Dieterbe | swifterdarrell: but in that case, there are not enough zones to satisfy the replication level or to do handoffs? | 15:25 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: you will end up with 2 replicas in one zone and the third in the other | 15:37 |
| notmyname | sibi_a: still around? I can answer your swift question(s) | 15:38 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: hmm i thought i read in the docs there's only one copy per zone | 15:38 |
| notmyname | Dieterbe: as of 1.5.0, that's not true (essex was 1.4.8) | 15:39 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: see the first thing on http://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/09/27/top-three-swift-features-in-openstack-folsom/ | 15:39 |
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| Dieterbe | aha thanks notmyname | 15:41 |
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| egoitz | could anyone know? | 15:42 |
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| One-Man-Bucket | i guess that's enough for today | 15:50 |
| One-Man-Bucket | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12784086/how-do-i-set-a-default-keypair-for-an-openstack-user | 15:51 |
| One-Man-Bucket | if anyone feels inclined | 15:51 |
| One-Man-Bucket | bye! | 15:51 |
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| sibi_a | notmyname: Thank you! if you have any rough ideas on this possiblity | 15:53 |
| notmyname | sibi_a: you want to just use the proxy and rip out the rest of it, giving your storage system a swift api? | 15:53 |
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| sibi_a | absolutely. you said it :) | 15:54 |
| sibi_a | is that possible | 15:54 |
| sibi_a | I wish to give swift apis. Thats all | 15:54 |
| notmyname | sibi_a: you'd be better off implementing the swift api in your own code rather than trying to cobble together parts of swift and still have a reliable and performant system | 15:55 |
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| sibi_a | ahh okay. But are there any libraries to help with that | 15:56 |
| halfss | is there anyone use flatdhcp in product env？ | 15:56 |
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| sibi_a | the thing is, if there are any standard libraries.. will be happy to use that. Since if there are new ones introduced by swift, I hope to be compliant with that | 15:58 |
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| notmyname | sibi_a: I'm not sure what sort of libraries you are looking for. there is no server-side swift "library" other than swift itself. but the swift api is simply http, so any sort of http library will make your life easier in implementing a swift api | 16:00 |
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| notmyname | sibi_a: what storage system are you adding the swift api to? | 16:00 |
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| sibi_a | well, it is pretty complex. Underlying it is hadoop | 16:00 |
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| notmyname | sibi_a: http://zerovm.org/killer-apps/ | 16:02 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: do you know when 1.7.4 will be available in centos? we're still stuck with 1.4.8 | 16:03 |
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| egoitz | Hi all | 16:03 |
| Dieterbe | notmyname: even 1.5 is not in there | 16:03 |
| egoitz | I'm trying to use Openstack with XCP | 16:03 |
| egoitz | I'm trying to build a volume through xenapi | 16:03 |
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| egoitz | but I'm obtainig SR_HAS_NO_PBDS | 16:03 |
| sibi_a | notmyname: Thanks. will have a look at that | 16:04 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: not sure. I don't get into the distro packaging side too much. (unsolicited plug: swiftstack provides current swift packages for centos) | 16:05 |
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| Dieterbe | notmyname: oh, and where are these packages? | 16:07 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: they aren't public at this time. we've got to make sure we can reliable build and support them before that would happen. also they have all of our swiftstack product stuff too. basically, we'll support our product on ubuntu and centos. | 16:10 |
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| notmyname | Dieterbe: we're in the early stages of the centos support, but I expect that there will be a lot of good progress over the coming weeks. if you're going to be at the summit next week, come talk to us about it | 16:11 |
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| eglynn | bcwaldon: dumb question, but is the glance-registry considered a truely public API? (or just an artifact of the internal implementation) | 16:15 |
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| Triade | Hi there | 16:22 |
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| Triade | I know that live migration feature need to have lib/nova/instances on a shared file system | 16:23 |
| Triade | we are using Ceph right now, and it is working perfectly | 16:23 |
| Triade | We want to boot from a volume on Ceph, is live migration feature working with "boot-from-volume" ? | 16:24 |
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| Triade | of course volumes are ceph/rbd | 16:24 |
| Triade | someone already does this? | 16:24 |
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| gatuus | Is it always necessary to have the nova-compute on the nova-controller?? or I can sepparate a nova-compute node from the nova-controller?? | 16:48 |
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| gatuus | I have a Fedora keystone, glance - controller ready... but I dont know If I can put the compute node on an Ubuntu node.. | 16:50 |
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| gatuus | miau =( | 16:56 |
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| notmyname | is chuck short in here? | 16:59 |
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| koaps | gatuus: typically compute and controller are seperate | 17:04 |
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| gatuus | koaps: It's just that I'm confussed because in documentation it saids: "you can connect an additional nova-compute node to a cloud controller node" so.. I was thinking that at least one compute needs to be attached to a controller... well it's clear it's not obligatory | 17:06 |
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| koaps | so one compute is needed, whether its on the same server as the all the controller services (keystone, glance, most of nova less compute) is up to you | 17:07 |
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| koaps | remember everything talks over a bus or API, so nothing really needs to be on the same system | 17:07 |
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| koaps | that's why the docs can seem kinda vague because there's nothing that says you have to run this and that on the same system | 17:08 |
| koaps | if you really wanted to, you could run every service on it's server | 17:08 |
| koaps | its own server that is | 17:08 |
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| gatuus | koaps: that's right.. ok.. thank you | 17:11 |
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| egoitz | Hi !! | 17:25 |
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| nelson1234 | Is Mapnik no longer rendering abandoned railroads? | 17:26 |
| egoitz | is it possible to boot from volume with an image containing an hvm vm? | 17:26 |
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| nelson1234 | Ahhh, it looks like it's Mapquest, not Mapnik: http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=43.07219,-77.11455&z=15&t=K | 17:28 |
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| lotreck | hello. Where are iptables configured on compute nodes ? I did a reboot of a compute node and now different tenant vms can ping each other. I'm using VlanManager. | 17:46 |
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| zykes- | rkukura: https://answers.launchpad.net/quantum/+question/210470 < do you know anything on this thing ? | 18:25 |
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| Cardoe | Hi I'm trying to install Folsom on Ubuntu 12.04 server. I'm at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/configure-creds.html in the docs. | 18:36 |
| Cardoe | but nova image-list gives me the following | 18:37 |
| Cardoe | $ nova image-list | 18:37 |
| Cardoe | Please input your password for the keyring | 18:37 |
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| Cardoe | Not really sure what password its asking me for and anything I've entered results in a 401 | 18:37 |
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| koaps | does the browser cache password? | 18:37 |
| Cardoe | koaps: I'm on the command line | 18:38 |
| koaps | if you sourced the .openrc your env should have what's needed | 18:38 |
| Cardoe | I have OS_USERNAME, OS_TENANT_NAME, OS_PASSWORD, OS_AUTH_URL and OS_REGION_NAME | 18:39 |
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| Cardoe | I noticed that I can't run nova-manage service list either | 18:39 |
| Cardoe | But I can as root | 18:39 |
| koaps | do you have ADMIN_TOKEN? | 18:39 |
| koaps | what user are running the commands as? | 18:40 |
| Cardoe | A user I created called "toor" | 18:40 |
| Cardoe | I don't have ADMIN_TOKEN | 18:40 |
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| koaps | where is the openrc file? | 18:41 |
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| Cardoe | koaps: ~/creds/openrc | 18:41 |
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| koaps | does toor have rights to it? | 18:42 |
| koaps | wouldn't think so | 18:42 |
| Cardoe | yes | 18:42 |
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| Cardoe | drwxrwxr-x 2 toor toor 4096 Oct 8 13:41 creds | 18:42 |
| Cardoe | -rw-rw-r-- 1 toor toor 166 Oct 7 19:33 creds/openrc | 18:42 |
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| koaps | I would try adding the ADMIN_TOKEN | 18:43 |
| christian1 | hola | 18:43 |
| Cardoe | koaps: is that the same as SERVICE_TOKEN? | 18:43 |
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| koaps | its the same value I think | 18:43 |
| koaps | you should see the admin token in like the glance.conf | 18:44 |
| christian1 | hola | 18:44 |
| koaps | oi | 18:44 |
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| Cardoe | koaps: nada | 18:46 |
| Cardoe | $ nova image-list | 18:46 |
| Cardoe | Please set a password for your new keyring | 18:46 |
| Cardoe | Password (again): | 18:46 |
| Cardoe | Please input your password for the keyring | 18:46 |
| Cardoe | Please input your password for the keyring | 18:46 |
| Cardoe | ERROR: n/a (HTTP 401) | 18:46 |
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| Cardoe | Once I give it a password its creating a file called "crypted_pass.cfg" in $HOME | 18:47 |
| koaps | must be ubuntu thing, I dont get that on centos | 18:47 |
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| Cardoe | koaps: Do you use EPEL to get newer libvirt/qemu? | 18:50 |
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| koaps | i build from source | 18:51 |
| Cardoe | surprised you're not on Gentoo then ;) | 18:51 |
| koaps | meh, gentoo is a PITA | 18:52 |
| koaps | i git install openstack, and source build libvirt and openvswitch | 18:52 |
| koaps | everything else is either rpm or easy_install | 18:52 |
| JonnyNomad | koaps, how hard is it to maintain building from source? Do upgrades go pretty easily? | 18:52 |
| koaps | openstack upgrades are a simple as git pull and then install with python | 18:53 |
| zykes- | koaps: uhm, no they are not always :) | 18:53 |
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| desai | Cardoe: there is some optional support (iirc) for python-keyring; if it is installed, you get messages like that | 18:53 |
| koaps | zykes-: well I don't do it unless there's a patch I want | 18:54 |
| zykes- | ;p | 18:54 |
| Cardoe | I wish the docs covered the OpenVSwitch bits since the install doc seems to use the stock bridge module instead of openvswitch | 18:54 |
| zykes- | like what ? ;) | 18:54 |
| zykes- | Cardoe: don't they ? | 18:54 |
| zykes- | I thougth for Folsom it was standard | 18:54 |
| Cardoe | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/compute-configuring-guest-network.html | 18:55 |
| Cardoe | That's the Folsom docs | 18:55 |
| Cardoe | stock bridge | 18:55 |
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| koaps | zykes-: https://bugs.launchpad.net/quantum/+bug/1060559 | 18:55 |
| Cardoe | desai: hmm any way to disable that? | 18:55 |
| Cardoe | desai: apt-get remove python-keyring wants to remove nova entirely. | 18:55 |
| b4sher | is there a good way to debug the metadata configuration of an instance on deployment? i'm seeing a number of timeouts when the configuration is trying to occur | 18:56 |
| zykes- | Centos :/ | 18:56 |
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| Cardoe | yeah now I'm wishing I used CentOS | 18:58 |
| koaps | heh | 18:58 |
| Cardoe | Because I'm going to be running CentOS in these VMs | 18:58 |
| Cardoe | Which leads me to my next question | 18:58 |
| koaps | centos minimal is my favorite | 18:59 |
| zykes- | ;p | 18:59 |
| Cardoe | So previously I basically had scripts that used virtinst and libvirt to install all of our test VMs. | 18:59 |
| zykes- | Ubuntu oworks best | 18:59 |
| zykes- | easy as that :) | 18:59 |
| Cardoe | All CentOS based and kickstart files to install them. | 18:59 |
| Cardoe | is there anyway to do stuff like that with OpenStack? | 18:59 |
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| Cardoe | Or do I need to create base images of every version? | 19:00 |
| desai | Cardoe: not sure; i just remember seeing a similar report and that removing python-keyring fixed things | 19:01 |
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| koaps | guess that would depend on how you want to deal with it, you can create base images for the test vm's or you can just put in a network booting kernel | 19:01 |
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| koaps | i plan on making the OS one image, and everything related to company apps run from a nova-volume | 19:02 |
| Cardoe | Well this is for testing | 19:02 |
| Cardoe | and developer VMs | 19:02 |
| Cardoe | We supports a lot of CentOS and RHEL variants so we test against 5.6, 5.7, 5.8, and 5.9 as well as all the 6's | 19:03 |
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| koaps | well, it would take longer to build those everytime you need to test verse having a bunch of prebuilt images, but you do need to store the images | 19:04 |
| Cardoe | Yeah that's true. | 19:04 |
| koaps | you can also use puppet or chef or customize the images after they come up with accounts and code | 19:04 |
| Cardoe | Ok that was my next idea | 19:05 |
| Cardoe | That would probably work | 19:05 |
| b4sher | when using linux bridging in quantum, and the vlans are managed by external (cisco) routers, do you need to add routers in quantum? | 19:05 |
| Cardoe | koaps: Any suggestions on what to use to create the images? | 19:06 |
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| sstent | anyone know how to fix "ImportError: cannot import name deploy" when running any nova component? | 19:07 |
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| koaps | i just use virt-install and kickstart, once done I boot it, customize it, shutdown and add it to glance | 19:08 |
| sstent | i'm on centos using EPEL rpms for dependecies and installing nova from GIT | 19:08 |
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| Cardoe | koaps: can you use virt-install against OpenStack? | 19:29 |
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| atrius | huh... that's a good question... i imagine openstack would ignore any non-openstack VMs since they wouldn't be in the database, right? | 19:29 |
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| zykes- | atrius: I think so yes. | 19:30 |
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| atrius | zykes-: all things considered, what else could happen really? | 19:33 |
| annegentle | Doc meeting in about 25 minutes in #openstack-meeting | 19:35 |
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| b4sher | does it make sense to have the l3-plugin installed if you do not intend to have quantum actually create VLANS (i.e. all vlans would be managed through a physical device?) | 19:37 |
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| zykes- | nothing I think atrius | 19:38 |
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| koaps | atrius: correct; Cardoe: I use virt-install to just create a img file, it's seperate from openstack so you could build it on another server and then upload the img to glance | 19:42 |
| Cardoe | Ok makes sense | 19:43 |
| Cardoe | qcow2 images? | 19:43 |
| koaps | yea | 19:43 |
| Cardoe | btw on Ubuntu you have to pass --no_cache to nova | 19:43 |
| Cardoe | Otherwise python-keyring interferes | 19:43 |
| Cardoe | Still having an issue though | 19:43 |
| Cardoe | $ nova --no_cache image list | 19:43 |
| Cardoe | ERROR: n/a (HTTP 401) | 19:43 |
| atrius | koaps: which sounds like an awesome idea for creating images... beats going through all the stuff on the actual system | 19:43 |
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| Cardoe | Not sure where to look to figure out what I've done wrong | 19:44 |
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| koaps | atrius: super fast too, I have local centos mirrors and script that creates a kickstart file for the image, so virt-install complets in like 10min or less | 19:45 |
| koaps | still have to create the instances via horizon or nova | 19:46 |
| koaps | i just need to work out this damn NAT issue I'm having | 19:46 |
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| Cardoe | koaps: I've got an identical setup using web.py | 20:05 |
| Cardoe | And basic kickstart templates that variables get replaced. | 20:06 |
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| Aaton | so I'm using precise (stock repositories) and trying to get horizon to work. this is the error I'm getting http://paste.openstack.org/show/21487/ after I login as the admin user. | 20:21 |
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| Aaton | any suggestions as to what may be wrong? | 20:22 |
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| koolhead17 | hi all | 20:53 |
| lotreck | hello | 20:54 |
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| koolhead17 | hi lotreck | 20:55 |
| lotreck | on a fresh folsom install on a compute node I don't see any security group rules. The output to nova secgroup-list-rules default is blank. Is this correct behavior ? | 20:55 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle, ping | 20:55 |
| koolhead17 | lotreck, yeah | 20:55 |
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| lotreck | koolhead17: thanks ... I'm using vlanmanager . My vms within the same tenant can ping each other by default . Is this correct behavior ? | 20:56 |
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| koolhead17 | lotreck, yes. Also you can check the docs for more reference :) | 21:00 |
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| lotreck | koolhead17: thanks for the info. I couldn't find any detailed info for folsom/security groups outside of the basic cmdline arguments (ie nova help secgroup-list-rules ) | 21:02 |
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| lotreck | koolhead17: I looked over here http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/starter/content/Security_Overview-d1e2505.html | 21:03 |
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| lotreck | koolhead17: but this documentation advises "Rest of the packets are blocked" ( ie default deny ) which I think contradicts vms within a tenant being able to talk to each other. | 21:05 |
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| koolhead17 | lotreck, file a wishlist for the same on launchpad under openstack-manuals project | 21:08 |
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| lotreck | koolhead17: ok. thanks for the feedback | 21:11 |
| koolhead17 | lotreck, your welcome and questions/suggestions like this much appreciated :) | 21:11 |
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| lotreck | hmm, did something just break in folsom ?? 'nova --no_cache list' says 'error: too few arguments' | 21:41 |
| lotreck | but 'nova --no_cache list list' seems to work | 21:41 |
| lotreck | nova --version gives 'Unknown, couldn't find versioninfo file at /usr/lib/python2.7/dist- packages/novaclient/versioninfo ' | 21:41 |
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| koolhead17 | zykes-, around? | 21:56 |
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| wkharold | just installed latest Ubuntu Cloud via juju on raw hardware (6 blades), dashboard comes up but we see no images | 22:00 |
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| wkharold | euca-describe-images yields: UnknownError: An unknown error has occurred. Please try your request again. | 22:00 |
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| erkules | moin, as there is goig to be the openstack summit in san diego, I wonder if it makes sense to go there even being a noob(tm)? | 22:08 |
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| WormMan | it looks to have a good range of levels of stuff, based on what I've seen | 22:12 |
| WormMan | (of course, it's 15 miles for me, so I'll be there) | 22:12 |
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| joern_ | hey... how do you guys speak out the command line tool's name cURL? like the fitness exercise or do you spell it out? :o | 22:17 |
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| Cardoe | joern_: its pronounced, not spelled. | 22:24 |
| erkules | WormMan: well Im located in europe :) | 22:24 |
| Cardoe | Anyone have any suggestions on what log file I can look at to understand this error: | 22:24 |
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| Cardoe | $ nova --no_cache image list | 22:24 |
| Cardoe | ERROR: n/a (HTTP 401) | 22:24 |
| joern_ | Cardoe: thats the 401 Unauthorized error. Seems like your credentials are bad? | 22:26 |
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| Cardoe | joern_: that would be the implication but "glance index" works | 22:26 |
| joern_ | hm | 22:27 |
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| Cardoe | http://pastie.org/5021259 | 22:29 |
| Cardoe | that's from /var/log/nova/nova-api.log | 22:29 |
| Cardoe | Which makes me believe its something how I configured nova to talk to keystone | 22:29 |
| koaps | it does | 22:29 |
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| koaps | are the end points setup? | 22:30 |
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| Cardoe | koaps: in keystone? yes they should be | 22:30 |
| Cardoe | I used the example config for nova from http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/compute-minimum-configuration-settings.html | 22:31 |
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| Cardoe | I also noticed that nova has some bug in it that causes nova image-list to error with the usage but nova image-list image-list is what actually calls into that code. | 22:31 |
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| koaps | are yu using rabbit? | 22:32 |
| Cardoe | koaps: yes | 22:32 |
| koaps | is it running | 22:32 |
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| Cardoe | yes | 22:33 |
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| koaps | enable debug | 22:34 |
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| koaps | # LOGS/STATE | 22:35 |
| koaps | verbose=True | 22:35 |
| koaps | debug=True | 22:35 |
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| koaps | did you try passing the login info directly to nova? | 22:36 |
| Cardoe | no | 22:36 |
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| Cardoe | http://pastie.org/5021292 | 22:37 |
| Cardoe | That's with debugging | 22:38 |
| Cardoe | I'm getting a token back | 22:38 |
| Cardoe | but then the token doesn't work | 22:38 |
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| koaps | Cardoe: is api-paste in the nova dir have the authtoken set? | 22:43 |
| koaps | admin_tenant_name = service | 22:44 |
| koaps | admin_user = nova | 22:44 |
| koaps | admin_password = nova | 22:44 |
| Cardoe | its set to %SERVICE_TENANT_NAME% | 22:44 |
| Cardoe | and %SERVICE_USER% | 22:44 |
| koaps | change them | 22:44 |
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| Cardoe | koaps: Thanks. | 22:45 |
| Cardoe | dur on my part there | 22:45 |
| koaps | not sure if they are meant to pick up environment vars or not, but I always set them and I've seen docs saying to do so also | 22:46 |
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| Cardoe | koaps: I'm happy as long as it works. | 22:48 |
| Cardoe | Most likely I over looked something | 22:48 |
| koaps | yea, I keep all my configs in git so if I missing something I can look back | 22:48 |
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| Cardoe | grr I should have done that from the start | 22:49 |
| Cardoe | You do a git project per directory? (e.g. /etc/nova/, /etc/keystone/) | 22:49 |
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| koaps | I have subdirs for a bunch of stuff all under a repo called openstack | 22:51 |
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| Cardoe | with symlinks | 22:52 |
| Cardoe | makes sense | 22:52 |
| Cardoe | I'll steal from your genius | 22:52 |
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| koaps | my setup is a test so not sure what would be different for production, I know I wouldn't use passwords the same as usernames | 22:53 |
| koaps | heh | 22:53 |
| Cardoe | that keeps it fun | 22:53 |
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| Cardoe | koaps: one more question if you have a minute | 23:02 |
| Cardoe | I'm trying to add another compute node | 23:02 |
| Cardoe | But its not showing up in hypervisors-list | 23:02 |
| Cardoe | its got the following message | 23:02 |
| Cardoe | 2012-10-08 17:58:33 INFO nova.openstack.common.rpc.common [-] Reconnecting to AM | 23:02 |
| Cardoe | QP server on localhost:5672 | 23:02 |
| Cardoe | the localhost is obviously wrong | 23:02 |
| Cardoe | Or at least I think so | 23:02 |
| Cardoe | It should be talking to Rabbit on my main machine right? | 23:03 |
| Cardoe | Not trying to run its own | 23:03 |
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| Cardoe | per node | 23:03 |
| koaps | yea | 23:03 |
| koaps | should be looking at the controller | 23:03 |
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