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| h6w | I'm trying to run an i386 image, and after trawling through the logs it says that " u'architecture': u'i386'} that are not provided by the compute node". | 01:40 |
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| h6w | How do I enable i386 support? | 01:40 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095496 in openstack-manuals "grizzly: swift endpoint listing support" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095496 | 01:41 |
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| ThiagoCMC | guys | 01:46 |
| ThiagoCMC | I'm following this guide: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_controller.html | 01:46 |
| ThiagoCMC | At the step 2: Configure Nova... | 01:46 |
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| ThiagoCMC | when the doc says: "Edit /etc/nova/nova.conf file and modify" | 01:47 |
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| ThiagoCMC | What we must do? REPLACE the "default" ubuntu nova.conf for this new one or APPEND that info within the original one? | 01:47 |
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| h6w | I'm only two steps ahead of you, but in my case I went through and replaced the values. You could always move nova.conf to nova.conf.old and copy in the new one and try that. | 01:50 |
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| ThiagoCMC | that is what I was doing... | 01:52 |
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| ThiagoCMC | Lets help each other?! | 01:52 |
| ThiagoCMC | :-D | 01:52 |
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| ThiagoCMC | h6w, this is the eleventh time I'm trying this guide, always from scratch... | 01:53 |
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| h6w | I had it working then started again because I'm trying different VMs. | 01:53 |
| h6w | I'm currently using the devstack script. It worked out of the box in three commands. | 01:54 |
| ThiagoCMC | I tried devstack too but, now it is time to use distro packages... | 01:54 |
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| ThiagoCMC | the previous times I tried this guide, my Instance does not receive its IPs... | 01:54 |
| h6w | Yeah, considering how easy devstack was, I'm surprised noone has built an simple package. | 01:55 |
| h6w | Ubuntu MAAS is almost there. | 01:55 |
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| ThiagoCMC | and now I'm seeing this nova.conf that I was replacing and, well, it have some dhcp related lines... | 01:55 |
| ThiagoCMC | Ubuntu MaaS doesn't work as described. | 01:55 |
| ThiagoCMC | I lost 3 weeks with that thing back in november... | 01:55 |
| ThiagoCMC | lets focus on this guide today? | 01:56 |
| ThiagoCMC | ^_^ | 01:56 |
| uvirtbot` | ThiagoCMC: Error: "_^" is not a valid command. | 01:56 |
| ThiagoCMC | =P | 01:56 |
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| ThiagoCMC | h6w, I'm reading that the Debian Openstack packges have MUCH more automation than Ubuntu ones... It uses Debconf and db-config... | 02:00 |
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| ThiagoCMC | but... | 02:00 |
| ThiagoCMC | well, I'm using Ubuntu for years now... | 02:00 |
| ThiagoCMC | I'll stay with it... | 02:00 |
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| ThiagoCMC | h6w, someone on the comments have said: "You're missing quantum-dhcp-agent in the quantum apt-get install line." - this on the folsom-controller node, did you agree? | 02:06 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095505 in openstack-manuals "grizzly: swift ring replica count now adjustable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095505 | 02:10 |
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| ThiagoCMC | starting basic-install_network.html... ;-) | 02:14 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095506 in openstack-manuals "grizzly: add configdrive support for xenapi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095506 | 02:16 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095507 in openstack-manuals "grizzly: swift add fallocate_reserve option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095507 | 02:16 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095509 in openstack-manuals "grizzly: swift-init KILL_WAIT override" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095509 | 02:21 |
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| ThiagoCMC | I think I found another problem with that guide: the line "auth_host = 127.0.0.1" on /etc/quantum/api-paste.ini should be "auth_host = 192.168.0.1" , Am I right? | 02:40 |
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| Can | What guide is that? | 02:40 |
| ThiagoCMC | This: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_network.html | 02:41 |
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| Can | Kind gentlemen, I have an issue with swift-recon | 02:43 |
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| Can | I'm getting -> http://127.0.0.1:6040/recon/diskusage: Error. No drive info available. | 02:44 |
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| Can | And for some reason, swift-recon -d returns all the mount points | 02:45 |
| Can | *-u | 02:45 |
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| ThiagoCMC | starting: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_compute.html :-P | 03:04 |
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| nubi3 | any body ??? | 03:41 |
| ThiagoCMC | I'm here! | 03:41 |
| ThiagoCMC | :-P | 03:41 |
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| nubi3 | ThiagoCMC : can u help me about swift | 03:42 |
| ThiagoCMC | Mmm... I'm sorry... I can't... :( | 03:42 |
| ThiagoCMC | I'm not there yet... | 03:42 |
| nubi3 | ThiagoCMC : emmm__ i very hope less about my swift | 03:43 |
| ThiagoCMC | I'm following this: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_network.html | 03:43 |
| ThiagoCMC | ops | 03:43 |
| ThiagoCMC | http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_intro.html | 03:43 |
| ThiagoCMC | but | 03:43 |
| ThiagoCMC | don't have swift | 03:43 |
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| nubi3 | ThiagoCMC : i have a tutorial on uksysadmin but my server stuck after istall her | 03:44 |
| nubi3 | ThiagoCMC : i have a tutorial on uksysadmin but my server stuck after istall it | 03:44 |
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| nubi3 | and then i using the csscorp tutorial but i have error in my instance | 03:45 |
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| nubi3 | ThiagoCMC : after i re install my openstack i have error in swift, swift give me output like this http://paste.openstack.org/show/28763/ ,,, are this ok ???? | 03:49 |
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| ThiagoCMC | I'm sorry nubi3, I didn't touch swift yet... =( | 03:50 |
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| alrs | nubi3: that doesn't look like an error to me | 03:50 |
| alrs | try | 03:51 |
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| alrs | swift -v -V 2.0 -A http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0/ -U service:swift -K swift upload testcontainer /etc/hosts | 03:51 |
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| nubi3 | alrs : but on this css corp tutorial 0 value must be 1 | 03:51 |
| alrs | once you've uploaded something you should have 1 object in 1 container | 03:52 |
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| ThiagoCMC | guys | 03:53 |
| nubi3 | alrs : after i run your code, i have the same ouput | 03:53 |
| nubi3 | alrs: the output is 0 | 03:53 |
| ThiagoCMC | at the doc: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_compute.html, step 2: Configure nova... | 03:53 |
| ThiagoCMC | the nova.conf have this: metadata_host=192.168.0.3 | 03:53 |
| ThiagoCMC | but it isn't metadata_host=192.168.0.1 ? | 03:54 |
| nubi3 | ThiagoCMC : iam using essex now | 03:54 |
| ThiagoCMC | ok | 03:54 |
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| nubi3 | all : any idea for my problem ??? | 03:55 |
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| alrs | nubi3: it looks like you're using the swift service account with keystone. Have you tried creating a normal tenant with a user in one of the groups specified in operator_roles in proxy-server.conf? | 03:55 |
| alrs | nubi3: (swift doesn't work so well with keystone) | 03:59 |
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| nubi3 | alrs : my be no, i just follow the tutorial of css corp, this my proxy-server.conf http://paste.openstack.org/show/28765/ | 04:00 |
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| nubi3 | alrs : so what must i do know ??? | 04:00 |
| nubi3 | alrs : are me have to move to ubuntu 12.10 ??? | 04:01 |
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| ThiagoCMC | nubi3, I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 with Ubuntu Cloud Archives repository enabled... | 04:03 |
| nubi3 | ThiagoCMC : are i have the wrong configuration ???? | 04:03 |
| nubi3 | i so very confuse now | 04:04 |
| ThiagoCMC | Mmm... I don't know. | 04:04 |
| ThiagoCMC | sorry | 04:04 |
| ThiagoCMC | :( | 04:04 |
| alrs | nubi3: 12.10 would probably be a mistake. Folsom runs on 12.04 with a PPA, and Keystone and Swift still don't work very well together. | 04:04 |
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| nubi3 | alrs : are i must replace my keystone ??? or i replace my swift ??? | 04:06 |
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| alrs | nubi3: I would recommend not using swift with keystone | 04:06 |
| alrs | Instead use swauth for authenticating swift | 04:07 |
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| nubi3 | alrs : you mean i must using swauth and swift ??? are you have tutorial for this ??? | 04:08 |
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| alrs | nubi3: No "must", just that everyone that tries using Keystone with Swift has bad results. It doesn't work very well. | 04:10 |
| nubi3 | alrs : i check the swift -v -V 2.0 -A http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0/ -U service:swift -K swift list , this the aoutput testcontainer | 04:10 |
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| nubi3 | alrs : i check the swift -v -V 2.0 -A http://127.0.0.1:5000/v2.0/ -U service:swift -K swift list , this the aoutput "testcontainer" | 04:10 |
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| h6w | If I power off a VM, isn't dashboard supposed to recognise that it's switched off? | 04:18 |
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| ThiagoCMC | I just finish the guide: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_intro.html | 04:22 |
| ThiagoCMC | same error | 04:22 |
| ThiagoCMC | Instance does not get an IP... | 04:22 |
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| ThiagoCMC | h6w, your instances have connectivity? | 04:23 |
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| h6w | No. Powered off. But Dashboard says "Running". | 04:23 |
| h6w | If I suspend it, then it only offers me "Terminate Instance" and not reboot. | 04:24 |
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| ThiagoCMC | I meant, when it is powered up...? | 04:25 |
| ThiagoCMC | have an IP? | 04:25 |
| nubi3 | alrs and ThiagoCMC : thanks for your reply, my cloud is running very well, i thinks my problem its solved, the 0 value is no problem :) | 04:27 |
| ThiagoCMC | what guide did you follow! | 04:27 |
| ThiagoCMC | I want my cloud working too!!! | 04:27 |
| ThiagoCMC | :'( | 04:27 |
| h6w | I told you, I'm using devstack. | 04:27 |
| ThiagoCMC | ahh ok | 04:27 |
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| nubi3 | ThiagoCMC : just compare with openstack tutorial and css corp tutorial :) | 04:28 |
| ThiagoCMC | css corp? | 04:28 |
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| ThiagoCMC | h6w, can you help me with this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/28766/ <- my instance log | 04:28 |
| ThiagoCMC | nubi3, this one http://cssoss.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/openstackbookv3-0_csscorp2.pdf ? | 04:32 |
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| ThiagoCMC | how can I debug the Instance "cloud-init" process? | 04:35 |
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| h6w | ThiagoCMC: Do you have syslogging on? | 04:37 |
| ThiagoCMC | yes | 04:37 |
| h6w | That's how I've been debugging. | 04:37 |
| h6w | Watch syslog | 04:37 |
| ThiagoCMC | and debug = true | 04:38 |
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| ThiagoCMC | but there is a lot of files... which one is related to cloud-init instance boot process? | 04:38 |
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| h6w | Alot of files? syslog is one file. | 04:39 |
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| ThiagoCMC | h6w, nova*log, quantum*log, etc*log... | 04:49 |
| ThiagoCMC | so, lots of files. | 04:49 |
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| h6w | For me it was just /var/log/syslog as usual. | 04:50 |
| h6w | I have just SYSLOG=True in my localrc. | 04:50 |
| ThiagoCMC | Mmm... ok | 04:51 |
| ThiagoCMC | are you using quantum + openvswitch? | 04:51 |
| ThiagoCMC | I think I hit a BUG: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/1089791 or https://answers.launchpad.net/quantum/+question/211021 or https://answers.launchpad.net/quantum/+question/212874 | 04:52 |
| ThiagoCMC | but don't know for sure... | 04:52 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095528 in glance "Link to controllingservers wrong in glance configuration page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095528 | 04:56 |
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| ThiagoCMC | I jsut join openstack@lists.launchpad.net, I'll ask some questions there... | 05:17 |
| ThiagoCMC | Thank you guys! | 05:17 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095533 in nova "Loss of rabbit MQ connection should surely trigger nova-compute XXX?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095533 | 05:51 |
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| ai23k | hi all is there any good documentation available to install openstack (on a single machine for testing purpose) on Centos 6.2 . | 06:27 |
| ai23k | I searched a lot but unable to find some better doc. | 06:28 |
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| ai23k_ | unfortunately documentation is mostly for ubuntu but we have some bad time in the past with ubuntu | 06:32 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095541 in quantum "Some modules not using openstack.common.log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095541 | 06:41 |
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| brandnewsmurf | Really dumb question on how images/instances work with Openstack and how they are stored/used.... | 10:41 |
| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095587 in oslo "Make oslo rpc sanitization configuration project specific" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095587 | 10:41 |
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| brandnewsmurf | When I start an instance based on an an image, the instance is essentially a new copy of the image right? | 10:42 |
| EKK | AFAIK yes | 10:42 |
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| brandnewsmurf | So that means there is no real relationship to the original image which is what I expected. | 10:45 |
| brandnewsmurf | Obviously what would be great is if the image could be used as the 'master' and then deltas created for the actual instance itself. | 10:45 |
| brandnewsmurf | Would save a tonne of disk space and maybe even simplify your patching e.g. patch the image and you're done. | 10:46 |
| k3rn | brandnewsmurf, AFAIK the default configuration is to use COW images (overlay images). That means the instance depends on the "master" image. | 10:46 |
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| k3rn | brandnewsmurf, this also means you can not alter the image. | 10:49 |
| brandnewsmurf | Just an aside...been studying openstack too long...just googled cow images and wondered why I was looking at a tonne of bovines. :) | 10:49 |
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| k3rn | :p | 10:53 |
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| k3rn | try searching for filetype qcow2 | 10:54 |
| k3rn | I am trying to create an instance that should act as a gateway (route packets) between two quantum networks. I created two networks and placed the instance into both of them. From that gateway instance, I am able to ping instances in both of the networks, but I the instance doesn't route any packets between the networks. Can someone help me with this issue? | 10:56 |
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| brandnewsmurf | Obviously its also going to depend on the hypervisor you use I'm guessing. | 10:59 |
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| ThiagoCMC | Hi! | 11:06 |
| ThiagoCMC | Anyone running this: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_intro.html ? | 11:06 |
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| brandnewsmurf | ThiagoCMC... I haven't used that one as I didn't have much luck with the Essex instructions but may have improved. I have however had success following these instructions from Nimbula. http://openstack-folsom-install-guide.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ | 11:15 |
| brandnewsmurf | Above doesn't have Quantum in it yet. | 11:16 |
| ThiagoCMC | that is a problem for me... | 11:16 |
| ThiagoCMC | I must use quantum. | 11:16 |
| ThiagoCMC | no VLANs for isolated tenants... | 11:16 |
| ThiagoCMC | also, that guide is for Folsom... | 11:17 |
| ThiagoCMC | I have only 1 problem with it... | 11:17 |
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| ThiagoCMC | My Instance doesn't get an IP. | 11:17 |
| ThiagoCMC | :( | 11:17 |
| ThiagoCMC | and no one is able to help me... | 11:17 |
| ThiagoCMC | bu tks anyway! | 11:17 |
| ThiagoCMC | but | 11:17 |
| brandnewsmurf | I would love to help but I'm such a noob at this that I'll be more of a hindrance | 11:17 |
| ThiagoCMC | =P | 11:18 |
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| ThiagoCMC | sad but true, openstack is very hard. | 11:19 |
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| ThiagoCMC | and Ubuntu packages have 0 automation. | 11:20 |
| ThiagoCMC | 0 docs. | 11:20 |
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| brandnewsmurf | Glad you said it was hard. Learning Openstack sure beats the hell out of your IT ego. | 11:21 |
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| ThiagoCMC | that's true | 11:22 |
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| ThiagoCMC | I know I am almost there but, my Instance doesn't get an IP... ehhehe | 11:23 |
| ThiagoCMC | I write to the openstack@lists and someone have said: read this: http://wiki.openstack.org/ConfigureOpenvswitch | 11:24 |
| ThiagoCMC | I just LOL | 11:24 |
| ThiagoCMC | To not cry... ehhehe | 11:24 |
| brandnewsmurf | Just persevere...thats what I do...then throw my keyboard at the computer screen and curse new technology | 11:25 |
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| ThiagoCMC | maybe next year we can do somethink like this: apt-get install cloud-computing-frontend ; apt-get install cloud-computing-kvm | 11:26 |
| ThiagoCMC | and access you dashboard. | 11:26 |
| ThiagoCMC | I will not give it up. | 11:26 |
| ThiagoCMC | Mostly because I can't. | 11:26 |
| ThiagoCMC | :-/ | 11:26 |
| brandnewsmurf | Or maybe even a complete Openstack install from bare metal up. | 11:26 |
| ThiagoCMC | like Alamo? | 11:27 |
| brandnewsmurf | I know vendors are working on this...like Dell with crowbar etc | 11:27 |
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| brandnewsmurf | And somebody will make an appliance soon too if they haven't done already which you just rack into your network | 11:28 |
| ThiagoCMC | well | 11:29 |
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| ThiagoCMC | I'm using Openstack Alamo from Rackspace but... Don't like it because it is too "plastered" / limited... | 11:30 |
| ThiagoCMC | and don't have quantum... | 11:30 |
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| ThiagoCMC | but it is based on Ubuntu with Folsom! the same packages used on the guide: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_intro.html <- that doesn't work. | 11:31 |
| brandnewsmurf | devstack is pretty cool but not 100% sure quantum is in it yet | 11:31 |
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| ThiagoCMC | devstack isn't for a production environment... | 11:31 |
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| ThiagoCMC | Ubuntu MaaS + Juju is creepy... Full of bugs... | 11:32 |
| ThiagoCMC | Puppet... please... | 11:32 |
| ThiagoCMC | lol | 11:32 |
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| brandnewsmurf | good luck anyway dude. | 11:37 |
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| ThiagoCMC | Thank you! | 11:45 |
| ThiagoCMC | I'll try this guide now: http://docwiki.cisco.com/wiki/Cisco_OpenStack_Edition:_Folsom_Manual_Install | 11:46 |
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| ThiagoCMC | Happy New Cycle for you! ;-) | 11:46 |
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| ThiagoCMC | found another guide! https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide/blob/stable/GRE/OpenStack_Folsom_Install_Guide_WebVersion.rst | 11:52 |
| ThiagoCMC | :-D | 11:52 |
| ThiagoCMC | but this one requires vlan and bridge-utils pacakges... +_+ | 11:53 |
| ThiagoCMC | alongside with openvswitch and quantum... | 11:53 |
| ThiagoCMC | brbrbrbr.... | 11:53 |
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| D4v1d | hey anyone tried folsom with vmware esxi ? | 12:11 |
| D4v1d | working on it | 12:11 |
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| D4v1d | all the services run properly | 12:11 |
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| D4v1d | but when I try to launch a VM is silently fails | 12:12 |
| D4v1d | no log | 12:12 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095633 in nova "Netapp: dfm lun list refresh not up-to-date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095633 | 13:25 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095648 in quantum "Invalid exception when DHCP requests IP address" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095648 | 14:01 |
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| kzoo | how do i shutdown an qemu instance with openstack? i want to ensure that after the vm has shut down, the qemu process has stopped and that the vm can be booted up cleanly again | 14:18 |
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| yota | hi folks :). Is there a provider that let's you upload a server images? | 14:50 |
| yota | not the case for Rackspace | 14:50 |
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| spicewiesel | hi all | 15:00 |
| kbringard | bam! | 15:00 |
| kbringard | I mean, hello, spicewiesel | 15:00 |
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| spicewiesel | hi ;) | 15:00 |
| spicewiesel | I have a problem with my first installation as I am a little bit confused with passwords, users an tokens. | 15:00 |
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| spicewiesel | I think I mixed something and now, with glance installatino, I am not able to connect. I get a Errno111 with every glance command (e.g. image-list) | 15:01 |
| spicewiesel | where could I start to find my error now? | 15:02 |
| melmoth | keystone logs, and glance logs i guess. | 15:02 |
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| spicewiesel | I suppose any mistake with my envs or the keystone-data scripts. | 15:03 |
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| * melmoth never heard of the keystone-data scripts | 15:04 | |
| spicewiesel | ok, glance'S api.log shows errors while connecting amqp | 15:05 |
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| spicewiesel | "AMQP server on localhost:5672 is unreachable: Socket closed. Trying again in 30 seconds." | 15:06 |
| gmi | spicewiesel: are you sure you see that in glance's log? | 15:07 |
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| spicewiesel | yes, /var/log/glance/api.log | 15:08 |
| spicewiesel | password was wrong, now it's connected to AMQP | 15:08 |
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| spicewiesel | so, that was another mistake, back to the glance connection problem :) | 15:09 |
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| gmi | spicewiesel:hmm, I didn't think Glance would talk to the queue directly; what version of Openstack are you on? | 15:09 |
| spicewiesel | folsom on ubuntu | 15:10 |
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| gmi | spicewiesel: that would explain it, thanks | 15:11 |
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| spicewiesel | np | 15:14 |
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| spicewiesel | hm, I just do not see where I mixed it up, glance is still saying: Error communicating with /v1/images/detail?limit=20: [Errno 111] Connection refused | 15:15 |
| melmoth | what about trying to see with tcpdump _where_ it s trying to cnnect ? | 15:15 |
| melmoth | may be a wrong keystone endpoint, or a service not running wherever it should be ? | 15:16 |
| gmi | spicewiesel: that error seems to be caused by the server not accepting connections | 15:16 |
| gmi | check where the keystone endpoint for Glance is and see if you have 9292 listening and accepting connections | 15:17 |
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| spicewiesel | ok | 15:17 |
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| spicewiesel | ah, ok.. I think I did somewthin wrong with that keystone script from http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_controller.html | 15:22 |
| spicewiesel | I have duplicates of my endpoints in keystone's service-list | 15:22 |
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| spicewiesel | I think I should clean that up and try it again | 15:23 |
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| lbb | hello all | 15:25 |
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| lbb | can someone help me with determining how i should setup a swift ring for an amount of 200GB and a factor of 3 for replication? | 15:26 |
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| lbb | how many nodes would be required? | 15:26 |
| D4v1d | hey melmoth :) | 15:26 |
| melmoth | Yo ! | 15:26 |
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| gmi | lbb: I recommend you watch this video that explains how the ring works http://swiftstack.com/blog/2012/11/21/how-the-ring-works-in-openstack-swift/ | 15:29 |
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| lbb | gmi: thx, will do | 15:30 |
| gmi | lbb: you create the ring based on the maximum number of drives youw Swift cluster will have considering a minimum of 100 partitions per drive and a replica of 3 (18 3 1) => it will let you add a maximum of 7864 drives in your Swift cluster | 15:31 |
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| D4v1d | man I have been trying to make esxi 5.1 server work with openstack without success | 15:32 |
| lbb | gmi: how big is a partition? 100 GB? | 15:32 |
| D4v1d | the services smile | 15:32 |
| D4v1d | and I get no valuable log | 15:33 |
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| D4v1d | except | 15:33 |
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| D4v1d | that the controller node cannot stat the compute node | 15:33 |
| gmi | lbb: a Swift partition is not a drive partition and it has no size, it's only used to distribute data evenly across your drives | 15:34 |
| gmi | lbb: read this as well http://www.openstack.org/blog/2012/02/1997/ | 15:35 |
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| lbb | gmi: i see, i'v read that link but didn't get any conclusive answers. So in order to replicate 200GB 3 times i need at least 600 GB in my swift setup, which can be distributed, for instance, in 5 storage nodes with 200GB storage space | 15:36 |
| lbb | also, each node belongs to a different zone | 15:37 |
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| gmi | lbb: this is a good way to calculate Swift cluster partition sizes, I cannot remember where I found it http://temp-share.com/show/Pf3YyAhW2 | 15:38 |
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| lbb | gmi: that's all for a replication factor of 3 right? | 15:41 |
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| gmi | lbb: yes | 15:43 |
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| D4v1d | I would say it officially | 15:47 |
| D4v1d | openstack folsom won't work with Esxi 5.1 server | 15:47 |
| D4v1d | due to the fact that the controller cannot stat the Esxi server as a compute node | 15:47 |
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| D4v1d | and therefore fails at the scheduler | 15:48 |
| D4v1d | the bad part of it is that it fails | 15:48 |
| D4v1d | silently | 15:48 |
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| lbb | gmi: i think i might have a problem, i only have 5 disks with 200GB | 15:49 |
| lbb | i can get nowhere near 90TB of 2^10 partition :s | 15:50 |
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| lauria | could someone please review/approve my patch in: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/18345/ ? | 16:07 |
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| creiht | gmi: I think there are 2 separate things to think about | 16:13 |
| creiht | 1. How much space you will need | 16:13 |
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| creiht | you say you want 200GB usable space, with a replication factor of 3, that means 600GB spread across a minimum of 5 machines | 16:14 |
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| creiht | and you want a little overhead as you don't want your disks to completly fill up | 16:15 |
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| creiht | actually with that little amount of space, you would probably be fine starting with 3 machines | 16:16 |
| creiht | 1 in each zone | 16:16 |
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| gmi | creiht: the question was from lbb, I was only trying to help :) | 16:17 |
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| creiht | ahh | 16:17 |
| creiht | hehe... sorry | 16:17 |
| creiht | lbb: -^ :) | 16:17 |
| lbb | creiht: mind lending me hand | 16:17 |
| creiht | sure | 16:17 |
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| lbb | it's as follows, i need to run some read benchmarks on a set of files (total 200GB) replicated at least 3 times | 16:18 |
| creiht | I'm usually thinking in terms of petabytes, so thinging about storage in gigabytes is a bit stretching :) | 16:18 |
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| creiht | thinking | 16:18 |
| creiht | lbb: k | 16:18 |
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| lbb | i have at my disposal 6 machines with 250 GB hardrives | 16:18 |
| creiht | lbb: is this just for a test, or is this about the amount of data that you want to use | 16:18 |
| creiht | k | 16:18 |
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| lbb | creiht: that's the amount of data, give or take a few gigs | 16:19 |
| creiht | do you have plans for it to ever increase? | 16:19 |
| spicewiesel | is it possible to drop the db keystone to reset everything I did with users and endpoints? | 16:19 |
| lbb | creiht: nope, isolated case | 16:20 |
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| creiht | k | 16:20 |
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| creiht | lbb: now for the benchmarking, I'm guessing that this is going to be mostly reading data? | 16:20 |
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| creiht | since you aren't adding data to it | 16:20 |
| lbb | creiht: that's correct | 16:20 |
| lbb | one setup routine, transfer data to swift | 16:21 |
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| lbb | and then reading benchmarking | 16:21 |
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| creiht | k | 16:21 |
| dolphm | spicewiesel: sure, drop the db and just re-run keystone-manage db_sync | 16:21 |
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| creiht | lbb: is this just to benchmark, or will you be using this down the road? | 16:22 |
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| spicewiesel | dolphm: ok, thanks. I did any mistake with users, pw ... and I cannot find it, so I jsut want to refresh that step :) | 16:22 |
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| dolphm | spicewiesel: you'll also be killing tenants/projects, roles, etc though as well | 16:22 |
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| spicewiesel | dolphm: that's ok. It's a fresh installation as discribed at http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_controller.html | 16:23 |
| lbb | creiht: at the moment it's just for benchmarking, although i'd accept advice for the general use cases as well :) | 16:23 |
| spicewiesel | and I did anything wrong with the keystone-data or/and keystone-endpoints.sh | 16:23 |
| creiht | k | 16:23 |
| creiht | lbb: are you benchmarking for transactions, or throughput? | 16:23 |
| creiht | lbb: and how big are the objects? | 16:24 |
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| lbb | creiht: i think it's throughput, the files are very small < 1MB | 16:24 |
| creiht | k | 16:24 |
| creiht | what type of networking? | 16:24 |
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| lbb | i can't confirm it right now, since i've been tasked with setting up the test environment for someone else to run the tests | 16:25 |
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| lbb | each machine has 1 GB nic connected to a switch | 16:25 |
| creiht | k | 16:25 |
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| creiht | so for this setup, I would recommend | 16:26 |
| creiht | using 1 of the servers as a proxy server, and 5 with account/container/objects | 16:26 |
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| creiht | if you need HA later, you can add other proxies later (or move them to the storage nodes) | 16:27 |
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| creiht | the 1GB link is going to be the main limiting factor | 16:27 |
| creiht | for throughput | 16:28 |
| creiht | and extra proxies will not give you more throughput | 16:28 |
| lbb | creiht: that's what i thought so far, i'm still a bit confused as to how to setup the rings. On each storage node i have 50GB for the OS and 200GB for swift storage. So in total i have about 1TB of space | 16:28 |
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| creiht | lbb: yeah so lets talk about partitions now | 16:28 |
| lbb | creiht: yes, i'm aware of the network issue :) | 16:29 |
| creiht | usually, we talk about thinking about what the max size your cluster could ever be, and use that to determine the number of partitions | 16:29 |
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| creiht | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At4SyQdtaLTjdGp6R0ZiNnhYQV9WUDJFcllHODJJZFE#gid=0 | 16:30 |
| creiht | is a spreadsheet that I made a while back to help figure that out | 16:30 |
| creiht | though in your case, it is a lot easier :) | 16:30 |
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| creiht | when we say 100 partitions per device, that is an absolute minimum to still get a reasonable distribution of files | 16:30 |
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| creiht | having more patitions per device isn't that big of a deal | 16:31 |
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| lbb | creiht: so the partition size is not dependent on the actual available space, but instead is limited by the maximum available space planned for the future? | 16:31 |
| creiht | right | 16:32 |
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| lbb | creiht: the partition number is measured in TB right? | 16:33 |
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| creiht | so a partition size of 10 would give you 1024 partitions | 16:33 |
| creiht | lbb: no | 16:33 |
| creiht | in hindsight, we shouldn't have named them partitions | 16:33 |
| creiht | :/ | 16:33 |
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| creiht | but anyways | 16:34 |
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| creiht | think of the ring as a large map | 16:34 |
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| lbb | creith: right right, mixed things up | 16:34 |
| creiht | that maps an object to a specific drive | 16:34 |
| creiht | a partition is a segment of that mapping space | 16:34 |
| creiht | or collection | 16:34 |
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| creiht | the mapping space is divided up into partitions, and those partitions assigned to drives | 16:35 |
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| creiht | so it is an abstraction layer between an object and the drive it lives on | 16:35 |
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| creiht | hopefully I haven't made it more confusing | 16:35 |
| creiht | heh | 16:35 |
| creiht | anyways | 16:35 |
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| creiht | objects get assgined to partitions | 16:36 |
| creiht | and partitions get assigned to drives | 16:36 |
| lbb | creiht: nope, please carry on :) | 16:36 |
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| creiht | so down the road, if you add another drive, a small number of partitions will get moved from the current drives to the new drive when the ring is reblanced | 16:37 |
| creiht | and thusly, the files that go with those paritions | 16:37 |
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| balboah | I'm trying to setup a 2nd compute machine to help my first physical machine that already have all services running. But it fails with RPC timeout as described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1076309 I'm not sure how to proceed debugging this and what the actual "RPC" connection attempt is trying to connect to since I'm new to openstack | 16:37 |
| creiht | of course not a big deal in your case, but helps to illustrate the reasoning behind the partitions | 16:38 |
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| balboah | my intention is that the 2nd machine only runs compute and routes network through the 1st machine, since I figured that it is the simplest setup | 16:38 |
| lbb | creiht: i see, so 100 partition would be enough in my case? | 16:38 |
| creiht | possibly, but it doesn't hurt to have more | 16:39 |
| creiht | I would say a partition power of 10 should be fine | 16:39 |
| creiht | that gives you 1024 partitions | 16:39 |
| creiht | 204 per device | 16:39 |
| lbb | creiht: the default value of 18 might be a tad to much no? | 16:39 |
| creiht | lbb: yeah, I was just doing some calcss | 16:40 |
| lbb | p.s.: the web client should have an autoscroll feature >.< | 16:40 |
| creiht | if you have 200GB of 1MB objects, then you have about 204800 objects | 16:40 |
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| creiht | lbb: web client as in irc? | 16:40 |
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| creiht | a ring size of 18 means 262144 partitions | 16:41 |
| creiht | so you would have only about 1 object per partition | 16:41 |
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| creiht | with a ring size of 10, you have about 200 objects per partition | 16:41 |
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| lbb | creiht: http://webchat.freenode.net/, that's where i'm at atm. The size of the items varies somewhere between ]20KB, 1MB] | 16:42 |
| creiht | ahh | 16:42 |
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| creiht | so starting with a part power of anywhere 10-12 seems reasonable | 16:43 |
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| lbb | creiht: thanks for the info. If i wanted to do some fine tuning, what would be the best place to start? change the partition size? | 16:46 |
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| creiht | the partition size isn't likely to cause any perf issues | 16:46 |
| lbb | i know network is the most limiting factor at the moment, but that won't be changed anytime soon | 16:46 |
| creiht | especially in your case | 16:46 |
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| lotia | is it possible to set a boolean var in the inventory file? | 16:46 |
| creiht | the partition size is much more about cluster sizing | 16:47 |
| creiht | rather than perf | 16:47 |
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| balboah | Why does the network meta say multi_host: true for my instance when my nova.conf says multi_host false? | 16:47 |
| creiht | the main things you will want to look at for perf tuning, are things like how many workers are running for each service | 16:47 |
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| creiht | and general linux network tuning | 16:48 |
| lbb | creiht: how many workers would you recommend? | 16:49 |
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| creiht | how many cores do your boxes have? | 16:49 |
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| lbb | creiht: 4 cores | 16:50 |
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| creiht | lbb: in addition to the network, the other major limiting factor is going to be disk io, due to having just 1 drive per machine | 16:50 |
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| creiht | I think a good starting point would be 8 workers for the proxy | 16:50 |
| creiht | and 2 workers for each of the account/container/object servers | 16:51 |
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| creiht | do some benchmarking, and see where things get limited | 16:51 |
| creiht | and adjust accordingly | 16:51 |
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| lbb | creiht: thanks for the info! | 16:52 |
| creiht | np | 16:52 |
| creiht | and I hope all goes well | 16:52 |
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| lbb | creiht: we shall see! thanks for the help. goodbye | 16:53 |
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| NashTrash | Hello Stackers | 16:58 |
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| NashTrash | Is anyone familiar with using Swift + TempURL? I am trying to get it set up but always get 401 errors | 16:59 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095721 in libra "Pool manager needs to create floating IPs" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095721 | 17:06 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095730 in swift "Swift MemcacheRing (set) interface is incompatible with python-memcached" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095730 | 17:21 |
| NashTrash | It is the ec2 set of commands | 17:21 |
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| NashTrash | How do you set a header on a Swift account? | 17:24 |
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| hub_cap | where is the _new_ wiki at? im assuming wiki.openstack is no longer used? | 17:28 |
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| clarkb | hub_cap: I think that switch hasn't happened | 17:34 |
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| clarkb | and even when it does happen DNS will be updated so that wiki.openstack.org is still valid | 17:35 |
| hub_cap | clarkb: oh ok thx for the infoz | 17:36 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095744 in nova "failure to inject user specified files does not cause instance startup to fail" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095744 | 18:03 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095770 in nova "cannot list floating IPs if some are associated to deleted instances" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095770 | 19:31 |
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| Can | Howdy. Any swift folk able to help me out? | 19:57 |
| notmyname | Can: what's your question? | 19:57 |
| notmyname | I can try to help | 19:57 |
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| Can | Well I posted an email and this: https://answers.launchpad.net/swift/+question/218217 | 19:57 |
| Can | Basically sums it up | 19:57 |
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| notmyname | Can: are you using real mounted devices (drives) or are you doing loopback mounts (eg like in the SAIO guide)? | 19:59 |
| Can | Real drives. I followed the SAIO guide but modified the relevant places to the best of my ability/understanding | 20:00 |
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| notmyname | Can: swift-recon's disk usage reporting is an interface on top of df for the devices stored in the ring. so if `df` doesn't return any data for your devices, swift-recon won't either (which is why it doesn't work for loopback devices) | 20:02 |
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| notmyname | Can: so, if you get the reporting working with df, it should work in swift-recon | 20:02 |
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| Can | Thing is; df is returning info :( | 20:03 |
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| Can | +notmyname: Thing is; df is returning info :( | 20:06 |
| notmyname | Can: I'm not sure if it's affecting the result, but you should at least remove the config lines for "vm_test_mode" and "mount_check" (the defaults will be the opposite of what you have defined and are appropriate for real hardware, ie not VMs with loopbacks) | 20:06 |
| notmyname | Can: oh, also remove the "disable_fallocate" | 20:06 |
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| Can | +notmyname: I'll try that now | 20:12 |
| Can | +notmyname: Thank you | 20:12 |
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| Can | +notmyname: Can I ask what loopback actually is? | 20:15 |
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| notmyname | Can: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device (tl;dr - a way to mount a single file as a block device to simulate a real hard drive) | 20:16 |
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| Can | +notmyname: I see. Thank you. I knew of it as a feature but didn't know it's name :) | 20:17 |
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| Can | +notmyname: No dice I'm afraid... | 20:21 |
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| Can | notmyname: df still works but swift recon isn't having any of it | 20:22 |
| notmyname | Can: ok, the next step is to use curl to get the info directly. look at http://docs.openstack.org/developer/swift/admin_guide.html#cluster-telemetry-and-monitoring | 20:22 |
| Can | notmyname: *reading* | 20:23 |
| notmyname | Can: that will let you narrow down where the problem is | 20:23 |
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| patrickt333 | Has anyone had any success using the ubuntu precise images from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com? I cannot login to them, no way, no how | 20:27 |
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| gmi | patrickt333: check the console log to see if the ssh keys were injected | 20:33 |
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| patrickt333 | what string would I be looking for? Not finding "key", "inject" or my name in that log | 20:36 |
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| gmi | patrickt333: search for "found data source: DataSourceEc2" | 20:39 |
| gmi | patrickt333: and make sure the instance receives an IP address | 20:40 |
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| gmi | patrickt333: I'm using this image with no problems http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release-20121218/ubuntu-12.04-server-cloudimg-amd64.tar.gz | 20:40 |
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| patrickt333 | gmi: that string does not appear. I'm also having issues with spotty assignments using auto_floating_ips, but the one I was working did have an ip. Let me start a different one | 20:41 |
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| Can | notmyname: Sorry to bother you again. I've followed the guide and when I do curl -i http://localhost:6020/recon/mounted, I get back a list of mounted drives which includes sdb, sdc and sde but when I do swift-recon -d, I've still got the same errors. Is there an error log that I should look at? | 21:00 |
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| Can | notmyname: Also, diskusage spits out the following json: [{"device": "1", "avail": "", "mounted": false, "used": "", "size": ""}] | 21:04 |
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| devoid | I have a question for the devstack folks out there: I'm getting prompted for my keyring password, like in https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-novaclient/+bug/1020238 but when I set OS_NO_CACHE=1 it still happens. | 21:22 |
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| devoid | Ok, a bit more digging, it looks like I have to update python-novaclient to address this bug: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/17987/ | 21:32 |
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| agoddard | hrmf.. I'm seeing "Requested volume exceeds allowed volume size quota" for a tenant with a quota that far exceeds the requested size/volume count.. anything obvious I should look at? | 21:44 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095839 in devstack "Description of RECLONE variable inaccurate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095839 | 22:11 |
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| devoid | On essex, is there a way to hard-kill / reset an instance when nova delete does not work? | 23:05 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095856 in quantum "sql_dbpool_enabled not passed to configured_db nvp_plugin" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095856 | 23:26 |
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| uvirtbot` | New bug: #1095864 in quantum "_validate_security_groups_on_port does not validating external_ids" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1095864 | 23:51 |
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