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| greenyouse | Is it possible to run a custom instance if the vm doesn't support partition resizing on boot? | 02:30 |
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| ich | In Swift: Can I give read/write access to a container and its contents (but only that container( to someone who does not have an account on that openstack installation (without making the resource public). E.g. on S3 / IAM I can create a new user for this purpose and attach a policy allowing that user to the container. I can then share the user credentials with that 3rd party. | 03:31 |
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| gray-- | has anyone done any work considering how to tier swift? how would you introduce SSD alongside spinny disks in a logical way? | 10:10 |
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| gray-- | provision another proxy schema and have the logic for selecting which to use live before the proxies? | 10:10 |
| prometheanfire | use zfs and zil? | 10:10 |
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| gray-- | yeah, s'pose that's one way of doing it... | 10:11 |
| prometheanfire | or whatever that cache is called | 10:11 |
| * prometheanfire likes zfsonlinux :D | 10:11 | |
| gray-- | i knew what you meant ;) | 10:11 |
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| prometheanfire | that's the way I'm doing it | 10:12 |
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| prometheanfire | along with ceph/rbd on top of it (meaning shared block devices for cinder) | 10:12 |
| gray-- | i've not come across any documentation talking through using zfs, most docs i've come across just talk about xfs | 10:12 |
| gray-- | what kind of scale is your installation? | 10:13 |
| prometheanfire | small | 10:13 |
| prometheanfire | personal | 10:13 |
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| prometheanfire | intimate | 10:13 |
| gray-- | sounds romantic | 10:13 |
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| prometheanfire | oh, it is | 10:14 |
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| gray-- | does anyone run zfs as their / device on linux yet? | 10:16 |
| prometheanfire | I do | 10:16 |
| prometheanfire | on a few devices | 10:16 |
| gray-- | aha... "zfs-initramfs - Native ZFS root filesystem capabilities for Linux" | 10:18 |
| prometheanfire | I use genkernel, has zfs support | 10:19 |
| prometheanfire | but ya, initram | 10:19 |
| prometheanfire | they are working on getting rid of that need | 10:19 |
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| * prometheanfire patches the kernel directly and doesn't use modules (static kernel) | 10:19 | |
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| lyda | latest devstack networking question. | 10:32 |
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| lyda | when i assign a floating ip address to a machine, i can see it assigned to eth0. | 10:33 |
| lyda | if i ping the ip address, i see it make it to the controller/compute node (there's only one node). | 10:33 |
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| lyda | but it does not make it to the vm. | 10:34 |
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| sgran | if it makes it to the compute node, you're probably hitting a security group rule? | 10:34 |
| lyda | (ie tcpdump host IP sees it, but it doesn't get through the filters). | 10:34 |
| andymccr | look at your iptables rules - as far as i remember the floating ips are assigned on the compute node and simply create iptables rules to forward to the address of the instance. | 10:35 |
| lyda | ah... | 10:35 |
| lyda | that's per-tenant. | 10:35 |
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| sgran | yes :) | 10:35 |
| lyda | ok. if i change it now will it affect the existing instances or will i need to reallocate the ip address? | 10:36 |
| lyda | hm. nope. nova secgroup-list-rules default shows that icmp is allowed. | 10:38 |
| lyda | | icmp | -1 | -1 | 10.196.107.192/26 | | | 10:39 |
| lyda | and the floating ip address is 10.196.107.19e | 10:39 |
| lyda | er.... 10.196.107.193 | 10:39 |
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| lyda | hm. that's the source port. should it be 0.0.0.0 if i want to open it? | 10:42 |
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| sgran | yes | 10:44 |
| sgran | and icmp is -1 .. 254 | 10:44 |
| sgran | er | 10:44 |
| sgran | 255 | 10:44 |
| sgran | (I think) | 10:44 |
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| lyda | what rules would i give to say "any"? | 10:45 |
| sgran | nova secgroup-add-rule default icmp -1 255 0.0.0.0/0 | 10:47 |
| sgran | (substitute the correct security-group name) | 10:48 |
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| maxdml | Hi, I installed nova-compute on opensuse, and it appears that there is no nova-compute service installed (but all the executables nova-* are present) | 11:35 |
| maxdml | could it be another package that brings them? | 11:36 |
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| maxdml | ok openstack-nova-compute package does it :) | 11:40 |
| maxdml | (which is not nova-compute package) | 11:40 |
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| nymous | can someone explain me how infrastructure with openvswitch works? | 12:05 |
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| nymous | br-int is an internal switch for VMs, also i have br-eth1 with my data subnet connected | 12:06 |
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| nymous | but how do they operate together? | 12:06 |
| nymous | i can ping and enter any VM on a host, but can't ping or enter any VM on different host | 12:06 |
| nymous | what should I do to resolve this? | 12:07 |
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| foudfou | hi all, I have a compute node on a x68_64 Linux machine. Can I run an ARM vm on it, and how ? | 13:21 |
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| sgran | I think you'd set the os_type propery on the image, somehow | 13:24 |
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| sgran | I haven't done it myself, but in theory, that sort of thing is possible | 13:24 |
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| foudfou | thank you sgran. I've read about an |architecture| property, but many questions remain. If anyone has experience with running different architectures, I'd be very interested | 13:31 |
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| gray-- | would there be any mathematical reason that 4 nodes, rather than the regular 5, with 3 replicas, would be a bad idea in swift? | 13:37 |
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| sgran | when building clusters, prime numbers are always best - they're impossible to partition | 13:47 |
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| nymous | quantum-openvswitch-agent just don't read it's settings file | 14:08 |
| nymous | f**k >_< | 14:08 |
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| gray-- | if, at a later date after building my swift cluster, is it possible to change the number of replicas? | 16:04 |
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| notmyname | gray--: no, not yet. but there is a patch currently being reviewed that will allow that | 16:11 |
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| flaper87 | anyone wants to approve this review? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/19501/ | 16:12 |
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| maxdml | I have precisely the following issue: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13705302/hyper-v-nova-compute-error | 17:13 |
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| maxdml | but I also have an error with nova-manage db sync, so I wonder if there is issue with injecting the missing column in the DB manually | 17:13 |
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| tms_ | exit | 17:14 |
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| xibalba | is it possible to demo openstack under esxi? | 17:16 |
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| gmi | xibalba: you can install Ubuntu 12.04 in a VM running on top of ESXi and then install devstack on that VM | 17:18 |
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| xibalba | ok thanks i'll give it a shot | 17:19 |
| xibalba | is that a task/group install? 'devstack' ? | 17:19 |
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| gmi | xibalba: read http://devstack.org/ | 17:20 |
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| xibalba | ty | 17:21 |
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| xsurfer | Hi all! | 17:23 |
| xsurfer | can I install openstack folsom on ubuntu 10.04 all in on single node? | 17:23 |
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| sprick | xsurfer: openstack-demo-install | 17:25 |
| sprick | its distributed with the RHEL packages anyway | 17:26 |
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| xsurfer | sprick: thanks, I have one node with ubuntu 10.04 and I can't reinstall it | 17:27 |
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| agy | xsurfer: there is no supported method to install folsom on 10.04. you can however install it, fully supported, on 12.04 | 17:45 |
| agy | you may be able to shoehorn folsom onto lucid, but i would expect some packages will need newer versions | 17:46 |
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| xsurfer | agy: thanks, which openstack version could be ok with 10.04? | 18:02 |
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| xsurfer | I found some guide for openstack diablo | 18:02 |
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| dotplus | if you can't eat cream, how a[1;3C | 18:10 |
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| amccloud | Does anyone have a canonical source for installing openstack with the xen hypervisor? | 18:13 |
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| amccloud | Would I setup openstack directly on the hardware (on top of xen) or in a VM? | 18:22 |
| maxdml | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/introduction-to-xen.html | 18:23 |
| maxdml | check the XenAPI deployment architecture chapter | 18:23 |
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| agy | xsurfer: diablo should work, but i'd not really suggest using diablo as openstack has really progressed since. if you cannot upgrade the from Lucid to Precise (LTS -> LTS) then i do not know what else to suggest :-/ | 18:37 |
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| xsurfer | what's about essex? | 18:42 |
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| jsindy | howdy | 19:17 |
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| monster__ | anyone run qemu-kvm on OSX to create templates? | 19:18 |
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| sprick | monster: no, sorry | 19:46 |
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| sprick | My question is has anyone used the "OpenStack Install and Deploy Manual - Red Hat" instructions and actually gotten the dang thing to work? | 19:47 |
| _nymous_ | sprick: no | 19:47 |
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| sprick | I've been banging my head against it for a week and I keep running into problems | 19:47 |
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| sprick | right now my nova services are all complaining that they can't AMQP server on 192.168.206.130:5672 is unreachable: Socket closed. | 19:49 |
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| _nymous_ | check if you rabbitmq instance is running | 19:50 |
| sprick | This is RHEL 6.3 and I've followed these instructions to the T. The manual wants you to use qpid instead of rabbit... I see setting in glance.conf to choose which one to use but not nova | 19:50 |
| sprick | I need both? | 19:50 |
| sprick | I have qpid running | 19:51 |
| _nymous_ | no, rabbitmq only | 19:51 |
| sprick | auth=no | 19:51 |
| _nymous_ | hm, ok, check qpid is running | 19:51 |
| sprick | it's running | 19:51 |
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| sprick | it's accepting connections too | 19:51 |
| sprick | just not from nova services | 19:52 |
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| jbrooks | Hi everyone. When openstack launches vms (w/ kvm hypervisor), can you customize the machine type, like change "-M pc-1.2" to "-M pc-0.14" | 19:52 |
| _nymous_ | are you sure you made right setting about it in nova.conf? | 19:52 |
| sprick | No, I'm not | 19:52 |
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| sprick | the only thing I have set is rabbit_host=192.168.206.130 | 19:53 |
| sprick | which looks wrong to me | 19:53 |
| _nymous_ | yes, qpid should have another setting | 19:53 |
| sprick | but there's no qpid_host setting or notifier_strategy setting like there is in glance-api.conf | 19:54 |
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| sprick | jjbrooks: yes | 19:54 |
| sprick | instance_name_template | 19:54 |
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| jbrooks | sprick, cool, I'll look that up, thanks | 19:55 |
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| _nymous_ | i fixed it but installing rabbit instead of qpid | 19:55 |
| _nymous_ | =) | 19:55 |
| sprick | I have it as i-%08x-%(hostname)s | 19:55 |
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| sprick | nymous: what did you fix? | 19:55 |
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| sprick | very annoying. I'll try rabbit. The thing that kills me is that these instructions are leagues better that the Diablo ones | 19:57 |
| sprick | but they still don't work | 19:57 |
| gmi | sprick: on page 48 it says to add "rpc_backend=nova.rpc.impl_qpid" to your nova.conf | 19:57 |
| sprick | AH! | 19:57 |
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| _nymous_ | sprick: your situation. i've tryed openstack with rhel before | 19:57 |
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| _nymous_ | openstack on rhel is a pain | 19:58 |
| _nymous_ | really | 19:58 |
| _nymous_ | lots of outdated packages | 19:58 |
| _nymous_ | i've moved to debian... but still unhappy | 19:58 |
| sprick | it's all squeezed in there.... | 19:58 |
| sprick | oh well... it's was still there... fail on my part! | 19:59 |
| _nymous_ | because it is developed by ubuntu users for ubuntu users | 19:59 |
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| _nymous_ | i'm stuck for 4 days already upgrading to folsom on debian | 19:59 |
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| _nymous_ | this s**** system driving me insane >_< | 20:00 |
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| sprick | nymous: I feel you man. | 20:03 |
| sprick | gmi:thanks | 20:03 |
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| gmi | sprick: welcome; take a look at this doc also: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_EPEL#Basic_Setup | 20:06 |
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| sprick | thanks gmi | 20:11 |
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| sprick | this appears to have promise as well: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuration-qpid.html | 20:15 |
| sprick | there *is* a qpid_hostname setting | 20:15 |
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| ThiagoCMC | Guys! Is Grizzly-2 available on Ubuntu Raring Ringtail (13.04) daily builds? Tks! | 20:27 |
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| gray-- | if anyone's interested, i've got some very very rough bash that'll deploy swift onto (ironically) an AWS, ubuntu, medium instance. been working on it for a little while just to keep testing config and other bits and bobs at work. would pastebin be a decent place? | 20:35 |
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| agy | ThiagoCMC: it looks like it is, as of 3 hours ago - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/raring/+source/nova | 20:36 |
| ThiagoCMC | AWESOME!! Thank you! | 20:37 |
| ThiagoCMC | I'm running Ubuntu 12.10 now... | 20:37 |
| ThiagoCMC | time to upgrade | 20:37 |
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| jake_ | Does anyone what flags need to be turned on in nova.conf to intercept all messages sent via rabbitmq? | 20:55 |
| jake_ | Does anyone know what flags needs to be turned on in nova.conf to intercept all messages sent via rabbitmq/ | 20:56 |
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| amccloud | does every physical host run nova-compute and nova-network | 20:59 |
| kbringard | depends on how you're setup | 20:59 |
| kbringard | amccloud: | 20:59 |
| kbringard | if you're using multi_host = True, then yes | 20:59 |
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| amccloud | what are the benefits? we have a small setup here. ~10 machines | 21:01 |
| kbringard | well, in a non-multihost setup there is one nova-network | 21:02 |
| kbringard | which acts a monolithic "router" for all VM traffic | 21:02 |
| kbringard | so your upstream BW is limited by this one machine's network ability, but more importantly, if you lose that one machine you've basically lost all VM networking | 21:03 |
| kbringard | if you have multi_host true, each compute node runs a nova-network process which acts as the network controller (router, floating IP S/DNAT gateway, etc) for only the VMs running on that node | 21:04 |
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| kbringard | additionally, it allows you to splay the meta-data API out (because this is handled by a NAT rule) across multiple machines as well | 21:04 |
| kbringard | so multi_host is generally better for redundancy/scalability | 21:04 |
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| kbringard | but can be more complex to diagnose | 21:04 |
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| kbringard | the main downside of it, imo | 21:05 |
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| kbringard | is that it means each compute node needs a publicly routable IP | 21:05 |
| kbringard | for VMs without floating IPs to SNAT from when connecting to the internet | 21:06 |
| swaT30 | kbringard: can you run Quantum in multi-host? | 21:06 |
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| kbringard | Quantum is a different beast entirely | 21:06 |
| swaT30 | I assume that you can spread that out separately without actually hosting it on compute nodes? | 21:06 |
| kbringard | truthfully I don't have a lot of experience with it | 21:06 |
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| kbringard | but, Quantum is more or less just an API translator | 21:06 |
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| kbringard | it takes "standard" nova calls to the network service | 21:07 |
| kbringard | and pushes them out via an output plugin | 21:07 |
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| kbringard | so, afaik, you should be able to have multiple quantum processes running at once | 21:07 |
| kbringard | since it doesn't (at least in any of the versions I'm running) maintain any state | 21:07 |
| kbringard | I think that's changing in Grizzly | 21:08 |
| WormMan | luckily legacy routing doesn't 'require' a public IP per node... if you don't mind hacking the heck out of it :) | 21:08 |
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| kbringard | ^^ | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot | kbringard: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 21:08 |
| kbringard | thanks, uvirtbot | 21:08 |
| WormMan | er legacy multi-host that is | 21:08 |
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| kbringard | swaT30: hopefully that made sense? | 21:09 |
| swaT30 | yea that makes sense | 21:09 |
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| WormMan | I really need to get to quantum someday soon | 21:10 |
| kbringard | vlan manager, flat manager, etc all just make native linux calls on the system, whereas Quantum makes those calls out through whatever output plugin you've told it to use | 21:10 |
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| kbringard | I think it'd be worth people's time to write output plugins which mimic the existing network managers today | 21:11 |
| kbringard | or at very least the VLAN manager | 21:11 |
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| kbringard | which would allow Quantum to basically be a drop in replacement for VLAN manager | 21:11 |
| kbringard | and I know I could do it myself, but I just don't have the time at the moment :-D | 21:11 |
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| WormMan | 'time'? | 21:12 |
| WormMan | what is that | 21:12 |
| kbringard | it's a lie | 21:13 |
| kbringard | much like the cake | 21:13 |
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| stack0verflow | hi all... i am having an issue where ami's launch and produce a console.log (but cannot access network, but that is a different issue), but raw and qcow2 images do not seem to boot and no console.log seems to run (though virsh seems think they're running). The nova-compute.log does not produce any apparent error during or after the launch. Does anyone have any idea where to look get more information about why the vms are not launching correctl | 21:19 |
| amccloud | kbringard: thanks for the info. sorry had step away for a second | 21:19 |
| swaT30 | kbringard: Quantum definitely seems like the way to go | 21:20 |
| swaT30 | have been using nova-network for labs and testing | 21:20 |
| swaT30 | going live within the next couple months | 21:20 |
| swaT30 | definitely going to give Quantum a good run | 21:20 |
| WormMan | stack0verflow: my standard troubleshooting is to try and use libvirt/virsh directly with the instance .xml file to see if I can find errors that way | 21:21 |
| kbringard | swaT30: yea, if you have the time to play with it, and can find/write an appropriate output plugin, I think it's the future | 21:21 |
| kbringard | I have Quantum running in an essex production environment, and quantum itself is really stable | 21:22 |
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| swaT30 | kbringard: yea, definitely. I haven't even really looked at it at all, but I assume that there are quite a few plugins in the works | 21:23 |
| stack0verflow | wormman: i tried redirecting a instances' console to virsh, instead to file, and restart and it seems to show nothing after reboot | 21:23 |
| swaT30 | openvswitch seems to be well tested and developed | 21:23 |
| stack0verflow | i'll switch to quantum once they can support something similar to multi_host | 21:24 |
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| hub_cap | hey, anyone seen issues w/ devstack... i have the latest and its goofing tryin to upload the image to glance | 21:48 |
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| hub_cap | https://gist.github.com/4533837 <-- something i noticed in the devstack output | 21:48 |
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| radix | does anyone have advice on how to take a nove-compute node temporarily out of the scheduler with the API? I was hoping to use a filter but I don't see any that would just let me reject a specific host | 22:38 |
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| kbringard | I don't know of a way via the API, but you can run nova-manage service disable —host=host —service=nova-compute | 22:40 |
| kbringard | to disable it | 22:41 |
| kbringard | where host is the name of the host you want to disable, as shown by nova-manage service list | 22:41 |
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| radix | kbringard: thanks, I'll look into that | 22:43 |
| kbringard | same works for any service listed | 22:43 |
| kbringard | np | 22:43 |
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| radix | kbringard: do you know what that does if there are currently instances running on it? will I still be able to work with that nova-compute node (like run a live-migration call on an instance that's hosted on it) | 22:46 |
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| kbringard | it leaves them alone | 22:46 |
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| kbringard | it just won't assign new instances to the node | 22:47 |
| radix | sweet. | 22:47 |
| kbringard | ok, I need to go | 22:48 |
| kbringard | good luck! | 22:48 |
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| radix | I guess it's not available through the API yet. https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1078015 | 22:53 |
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| _nymous_ | is there a way to add a network to an existing instance? | 22:56 |
| _nymous_ | using quantum | 22:56 |
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| bwong | Can anyone help me out with a Horizon question? | 23:57 |
| bwong | I cant seem to get it to work | 23:58 |
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