Sunday, 2013-01-20

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BaribalDo I need a certificate for each tenant?01:09
BaribalEr... Context...01:09
BaribalI'm trying to get juju to communicate with devstack, and am hampered by a failed HTTPS certification.01:10
BaribalI've tried to set the path that juju looks at for SSL certificates to /home/ubuntu/devstack/accrc/ but still get the same problem.01:10
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BaribalSo, *is* cacert.pem the certificate I am looking for?01:11
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cannotmyname: Hi. Is it ok if I ask you a quick question. Not troubleshooting this time :P01:51
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prometheanfireand he's gone02:39
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Baribalprometheanfire, do ypu know a little about the SSL certificates that openstack uses?02:43
prometheanfireupstream?02:43
prometheanfireor anywhere really, no ::(02:43
BaribalActually, I mead those that a devstack installation creates for its APIs.02:44
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prometheanfireyou need the method or just the cacerts or...?02:45
BaribalI think, the certificates.02:46
BaribalAlso, reasons why they may not check out...02:47
prometheanfiremy guess is that they are self signed (based on no hard evidence)02:48
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BaribalThey are. Is just one common certificate used (I guess that'd be cacert.pem), or one per project (I guess that'd be i.e. admin-cert.pem or admin.pk)?02:49
BaribalWait, it's APIs. Should be just one.02:49
BaribalSo, cacert.pem?02:49
prometheanfireprobably, and one cert per service02:50
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BaribalIn the latter case, I'm missing those... i think.02:51
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BaribalDo SSL certificates include the hostname?03:04
BaribalEr, its URL, I mean.03:04
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prometheanfireglanceclient deps on a specific version of a lib :(06:23
prometheanfirepkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: jsonpatch==0.1006:23
prometheanfireBOOO06:23
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prometheanfireah, looks like it's warlock06:33
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CramsanHello! Does anyone has any experience running OpenStack on ARM devices? I am doing a project in collegue and I am thinking on deploying OpenStack on a cluster of RaspberryPies07:42
prometheanfireeverything but nova should work I would imagine07:42
prometheanfireit is just python07:42
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CramsanNova is the service I am most interested in running07:44
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prometheanfireonce kvm supports virt on arm I imagine it should work, keep in mind that only the a15s support virt on arm iirc07:45
prometheanfireso no raspberry pies07:45
clarkbyou can in theory do baremetal or containers. I think trystack has arm devices. try pinging them?07:46
Cramsanoh ok. Well good to know. Thanks07:47
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flickerflyI'm looking for some documentation on what sort of switching equipment openstack requires. Can someone point me in the right direction?15:15
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sgranflickerfly: what do you mean by 'requires' ?15:24
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flickerflysgran, well to run a solid OpenStack implementation are there speeds of networking that are required15:37
flickerflyis there some point where vlans are required or does the new networking stuff eliminate that15:37
flickerflythings of this sort, maybe more of a guide to picking switching equipment15:37
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sgranif you want vlan networking, your switches should support vlans, yes15:50
sgranas for network speed, nothing in openstack except for image manipulation and possibly migration uses any bandwidth.  It would be better to think about what sort of throughput your VMs are going to need15:51
sgranquantum doesn't eliminate vlan considerations, it just makes management easier15:51
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flickerflysgran, thanks. So it is very specific to my interests, but I can get away with some pretty minimal switching to get started.15:57
sgranyeah, if you do something like flatDHCP networking to start, simple switches will let you do a simple setup15:57
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flickerflygreat15:58
flickerflyWe're trying to get an OpenStack thing together at our hackerspace and don't have any significant switching capability yet.15:59
flickerflyIn case someone is interested: http://makelehighvalley.com/wiki/OpenStack15:59
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gray--hi all, anyone had any experiences performance benchmarking Swift?  Any particular tools people found interesting/useful?  I'm looking at tsung at the moment... any advice?16:58
gray--need to simulate 10:1 reads:writes, different counts on concurrent users, different file sizes16:59
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notmynamegray--: a starting point coul dbe the swift-bench tool that comes in the swift codebase18:05
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gribozavrhi!  is it possible to set up xen + pci passthrough in openstack?18:40
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bennergribozavr: no18:49
gribozavrbenner: thanks...18:49
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gribozavrbenner: is it possible to do with some custom add-on?18:53
gribozavrlike, get the host of the vm, and after that use XCP management commands to attach the card?18:54
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bennergribozavr: i think it may work but it's way to fail19:04
gribozavrbenner: i understand that it is not a clean solution, but why would you call it 'way to fail'?19:05
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calstongribozavr: guessing this is for VoIP or something?19:06
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gribozavrcalston: hpc19:06
bennergribozavr: after that nova-compute has different vision about VM and I think there is situation when somethings fails becouse nova doesn't know or can't manage whole stuff19:07
gribozavrcalston: we have infiniband cards, and guests should have direct access to them in order to get good latency19:07
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gribozavrbenner: i see.  indeed, we should ensure that we only ever start a single vm on a host, because we have only one IB card.  but that is precisely what we just wanted to do anyway19:09
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bennergribozavr: you can ollways run aditional VM by hands in paralel of other openstack vms19:11
gribozavrbenner: i just don't need to do so19:12
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bennergribozavr: you can add all things you need in it and nova can't toutch it19:13
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gribozavrbenner: you mean that i can configure the vm on a low level using XCP and let nova manage it?19:13
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bennergribozavr: no, nova will not know about it and managing19:15
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calstongribozavr: why use a vm if you're only having one per host?19:16
gribozavrbenner: then i will not get any advantage of openstack19:16
calstonseems like a bit of a waste19:16
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gribozavrcalston: to simplify management, enable rolling upgrades, and enable reconfiguration (today we run 90 centos + 10 ubuntu VMs, tomorrow -- the other way round)19:17
gribozavrcurrently we have a pxeboot-based solution, but that is a pain up to the point that we have only a single OS that was not updated for years19:18
calstonhmm19:19
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gribozavri imagine that with openstack i would easily create 'test' nodes to try upgrades.  or i would easily shut down nodes and start new VMs with other OS19:19
bennergribozavr: openstack does not support pci(-e) passthrought yet. so no advantages for this case yet. there is bluprints about this but not yet.19:19
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gribozavrbenner: i see.  we try to hack something up, anyway19:21
gribozavrit won't be something we would be able to contribute, though  (it would be a hackish solution at best...)19:22
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calstongribozavr: just because I'm intrigued, what's the infiniband for?19:22
gribozavrcalston: low-latency messaging with MPI19:22
calstongribozavr: academic HPC stuff?19:22
gribozavrcalston: we get 3.7 us on small messages19:22
gribozavrcalston: yes19:22
calstoninteresting19:23
bennergribozavr: and what latency when you do standart opnenstack networking?19:23
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gribozavrbenner: no idea, we are currently selecting the approach to reinstall our compute cluster from scratch19:24
calstoncan't you use IPoIB to route messages from the vm to the host19:24
calstonor does that hurt the latency too much19:24
gribozavrbenner: i have looked into openvz, but it does not virtualize IB19:24
gribozavrcalston: it does.  if i just use TCP instead of native IB verbs (on the host itself!), i get 30+ us latency19:25
calstonNASA has something called Nebula which apparently supports IB, you could ask them :)19:26
calston(it's a Nova fork by the sounds of it)19:26
gribozavryou mean opennebula?19:26
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calstonnot sure if it's related to opennebula19:27
gribozavrfound it -- nebula.nasa.gov19:27
calstonnot very useful site :/19:27
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AncntOfMuMusorry for butting in, but from the sounds of things, i can't help wonder if the answer to your use case is hypervisor + management tool - rather than private cloud persay....19:28
AncntOfMuMuthough i realise i might be shot down for that :)19:29
gribozavrAncntOfMuMu: i am open for suggestions19:29
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gribozavri just need something that would allow me to reach those goals19:29
gribozavrso far i have found that openvz does not work, but xen, kvm and a dumb chroot would19:30
gribozavrso i am looking into management solutions for xen and kvm.  a bunch of scripts for a chroot is the last thing i want to maintain19:30
AncntOfMuMuwhat i mean is the nature of a private cloud (to my way of thinking at least) is that you don't essentially care which hypervisor your VM runs on, if you need to add something like pci pass-through to an IB card, at this point, you very much DO care where it runs19:30
calstonif you were homogenously Ubuntu then you could use MaaS + Juju19:30
gribozavrAncntOfMuMu: all our hosts are identical, so we don't care where it runs19:31
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AncntOfMuMuhmmm, point taken19:32
AncntOfMuMudefinetly an interesting use case19:32
gribozavrcalston: previously we were centos only because we need to be compatible with CERN software19:32
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calstongribozavr: you're making me sad that I work in the corporate world19:33
bennernice, just did "reboot <uuid>" instead "nova reboot <uiid>" :-)19:33
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gray--notmyname: thanks, unfortunately python isn't something i'm well versed in, so i think i need a home-brew solution19:33
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doug__Anyone know how to remove a floodlight controller from an ovs bridge?22:33
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EmilienMdoug__: ovs-vsctl del-controller br-int22:45
doug__hey man, I like your blog. As soon as you said it I found it22:46
EmilienMdoug__: :)22:46
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EmilienMdon't forget to add another controller :22:46
EmilienMovs-vsctl set-controller br-int tcp:x.x.x.x:663322:46
doug__ya the problem is the vms off that bridge arent getting ips....22:47
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EmilienMdoug__: do you have a running dnsmasq process ?22:47
doug__of course22:47
EmilienMare you using vlan somewhere ?22:47
EmilienMquantum v1, v2 ?22:48
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doug__not that I know of, before I added the controller vms were getting ips22:48
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doug__i just took it off and am going to see if it works now22:48
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EmilienMVMs can't get an IP without controller.22:49
EmilienMThe constroller is managing the virtual L2.22:49
EmilienMand floolight is using the OpenFlow to manage Open-vSwitch on each compute node22:49
EmilienMand also on network node (which run DHCP and l3)22:49
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doug__ya ya I know22:50
EmilienMbe sure that network node run OVS, and is connected to br-int with controller.22:50
doug__I think I'm going to try out this mininet thing with floodlight22:53
doug__this hyperglance thing looks pretty slick too22:53
doug__I wanna try that out22:53
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