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Baribal | Do I need a certificate for each tenant? | 01:09 |
Baribal | Er... Context... | 01:09 |
Baribal | I'm trying to get juju to communicate with devstack, and am hampered by a failed HTTPS certification. | 01:10 |
Baribal | I've tried to set the path that juju looks at for SSL certificates to /home/ubuntu/devstack/accrc/ but still get the same problem. | 01:10 |
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Baribal | So, *is* cacert.pem the certificate I am looking for? | 01:11 |
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can | notmyname: Hi. Is it ok if I ask you a quick question. Not troubleshooting this time :P | 01:51 |
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prometheanfire | and he's gone | 02:39 |
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Baribal | prometheanfire, do ypu know a little about the SSL certificates that openstack uses? | 02:43 |
prometheanfire | upstream? | 02:43 |
prometheanfire | or anywhere really, no ::( | 02:43 |
Baribal | Actually, I mead those that a devstack installation creates for its APIs. | 02:44 |
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prometheanfire | you need the method or just the cacerts or...? | 02:45 |
Baribal | I think, the certificates. | 02:46 |
Baribal | Also, reasons why they may not check out... | 02:47 |
prometheanfire | my guess is that they are self signed (based on no hard evidence) | 02:48 |
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Baribal | They are. Is just one common certificate used (I guess that'd be cacert.pem), or one per project (I guess that'd be i.e. admin-cert.pem or admin.pk)? | 02:49 |
Baribal | Wait, it's APIs. Should be just one. | 02:49 |
Baribal | So, cacert.pem? | 02:49 |
prometheanfire | probably, and one cert per service | 02:50 |
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Baribal | In the latter case, I'm missing those... i think. | 02:51 |
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Baribal | Do SSL certificates include the hostname? | 03:04 |
Baribal | Er, its URL, I mean. | 03:04 |
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prometheanfire | glanceclient deps on a specific version of a lib :( | 06:23 |
prometheanfire | pkg_resources.DistributionNotFound: jsonpatch==0.10 | 06:23 |
prometheanfire | BOOO | 06:23 |
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prometheanfire | ah, looks like it's warlock | 06:33 |
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Cramsan | Hello! Does anyone has any experience running OpenStack on ARM devices? I am doing a project in collegue and I am thinking on deploying OpenStack on a cluster of RaspberryPies | 07:42 |
prometheanfire | everything but nova should work I would imagine | 07:42 |
prometheanfire | it is just python | 07:42 |
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Cramsan | Nova is the service I am most interested in running | 07:44 |
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prometheanfire | once kvm supports virt on arm I imagine it should work, keep in mind that only the a15s support virt on arm iirc | 07:45 |
prometheanfire | so no raspberry pies | 07:45 |
clarkb | you can in theory do baremetal or containers. I think trystack has arm devices. try pinging them? | 07:46 |
Cramsan | oh ok. Well good to know. Thanks | 07:47 |
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flickerfly | I'm looking for some documentation on what sort of switching equipment openstack requires. Can someone point me in the right direction? | 15:15 |
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sgran | flickerfly: what do you mean by 'requires' ? | 15:24 |
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flickerfly | sgran, well to run a solid OpenStack implementation are there speeds of networking that are required | 15:37 |
flickerfly | is there some point where vlans are required or does the new networking stuff eliminate that | 15:37 |
flickerfly | things of this sort, maybe more of a guide to picking switching equipment | 15:37 |
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sgran | if you want vlan networking, your switches should support vlans, yes | 15:50 |
sgran | as for network speed, nothing in openstack except for image manipulation and possibly migration uses any bandwidth. It would be better to think about what sort of throughput your VMs are going to need | 15:51 |
sgran | quantum doesn't eliminate vlan considerations, it just makes management easier | 15:51 |
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flickerfly | sgran, thanks. So it is very specific to my interests, but I can get away with some pretty minimal switching to get started. | 15:57 |
sgran | yeah, if you do something like flatDHCP networking to start, simple switches will let you do a simple setup | 15:57 |
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flickerfly | great | 15:58 |
flickerfly | We're trying to get an OpenStack thing together at our hackerspace and don't have any significant switching capability yet. | 15:59 |
flickerfly | In case someone is interested: http://makelehighvalley.com/wiki/OpenStack | 15:59 |
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gray-- | hi all, anyone had any experiences performance benchmarking Swift? Any particular tools people found interesting/useful? I'm looking at tsung at the moment... any advice? | 16:58 |
gray-- | need to simulate 10:1 reads:writes, different counts on concurrent users, different file sizes | 16:59 |
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notmyname | gray--: a starting point coul dbe the swift-bench tool that comes in the swift codebase | 18:05 |
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gribozavr | hi! is it possible to set up xen + pci passthrough in openstack? | 18:40 |
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benner | gribozavr: no | 18:49 |
gribozavr | benner: thanks... | 18:49 |
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gribozavr | benner: is it possible to do with some custom add-on? | 18:53 |
gribozavr | like, get the host of the vm, and after that use XCP management commands to attach the card? | 18:54 |
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benner | gribozavr: i think it may work but it's way to fail | 19:04 |
gribozavr | benner: i understand that it is not a clean solution, but why would you call it 'way to fail'? | 19:05 |
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calston | gribozavr: guessing this is for VoIP or something? | 19:06 |
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gribozavr | calston: hpc | 19:06 |
benner | gribozavr: after that nova-compute has different vision about VM and I think there is situation when somethings fails becouse nova doesn't know or can't manage whole stuff | 19:07 |
gribozavr | calston: we have infiniband cards, and guests should have direct access to them in order to get good latency | 19:07 |
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gribozavr | benner: i see. indeed, we should ensure that we only ever start a single vm on a host, because we have only one IB card. but that is precisely what we just wanted to do anyway | 19:09 |
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benner | gribozavr: you can ollways run aditional VM by hands in paralel of other openstack vms | 19:11 |
gribozavr | benner: i just don't need to do so | 19:12 |
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benner | gribozavr: you can add all things you need in it and nova can't toutch it | 19:13 |
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gribozavr | benner: you mean that i can configure the vm on a low level using XCP and let nova manage it? | 19:13 |
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benner | gribozavr: no, nova will not know about it and managing | 19:15 |
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calston | gribozavr: why use a vm if you're only having one per host? | 19:16 |
gribozavr | benner: then i will not get any advantage of openstack | 19:16 |
calston | seems like a bit of a waste | 19:16 |
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gribozavr | calston: to simplify management, enable rolling upgrades, and enable reconfiguration (today we run 90 centos + 10 ubuntu VMs, tomorrow -- the other way round) | 19:17 |
gribozavr | currently we have a pxeboot-based solution, but that is a pain up to the point that we have only a single OS that was not updated for years | 19:18 |
calston | hmm | 19:19 |
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gribozavr | i imagine that with openstack i would easily create 'test' nodes to try upgrades. or i would easily shut down nodes and start new VMs with other OS | 19:19 |
benner | gribozavr: openstack does not support pci(-e) passthrought yet. so no advantages for this case yet. there is bluprints about this but not yet. | 19:19 |
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gribozavr | benner: i see. we try to hack something up, anyway | 19:21 |
gribozavr | it won't be something we would be able to contribute, though (it would be a hackish solution at best...) | 19:22 |
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calston | gribozavr: just because I'm intrigued, what's the infiniband for? | 19:22 |
gribozavr | calston: low-latency messaging with MPI | 19:22 |
calston | gribozavr: academic HPC stuff? | 19:22 |
gribozavr | calston: we get 3.7 us on small messages | 19:22 |
gribozavr | calston: yes | 19:22 |
calston | interesting | 19:23 |
benner | gribozavr: and what latency when you do standart opnenstack networking? | 19:23 |
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gribozavr | benner: no idea, we are currently selecting the approach to reinstall our compute cluster from scratch | 19:24 |
calston | can't you use IPoIB to route messages from the vm to the host | 19:24 |
calston | or does that hurt the latency too much | 19:24 |
gribozavr | benner: i have looked into openvz, but it does not virtualize IB | 19:24 |
gribozavr | calston: it does. if i just use TCP instead of native IB verbs (on the host itself!), i get 30+ us latency | 19:25 |
calston | NASA has something called Nebula which apparently supports IB, you could ask them :) | 19:26 |
calston | (it's a Nova fork by the sounds of it) | 19:26 |
gribozavr | you mean opennebula? | 19:26 |
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calston | not sure if it's related to opennebula | 19:27 |
gribozavr | found it -- nebula.nasa.gov | 19:27 |
calston | not very useful site :/ | 19:27 |
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AncntOfMuMu | sorry for butting in, but from the sounds of things, i can't help wonder if the answer to your use case is hypervisor + management tool - rather than private cloud persay.... | 19:28 |
AncntOfMuMu | though i realise i might be shot down for that :) | 19:29 |
gribozavr | AncntOfMuMu: i am open for suggestions | 19:29 |
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gribozavr | i just need something that would allow me to reach those goals | 19:29 |
gribozavr | so far i have found that openvz does not work, but xen, kvm and a dumb chroot would | 19:30 |
gribozavr | so i am looking into management solutions for xen and kvm. a bunch of scripts for a chroot is the last thing i want to maintain | 19:30 |
AncntOfMuMu | what i mean is the nature of a private cloud (to my way of thinking at least) is that you don't essentially care which hypervisor your VM runs on, if you need to add something like pci pass-through to an IB card, at this point, you very much DO care where it runs | 19:30 |
calston | if you were homogenously Ubuntu then you could use MaaS + Juju | 19:30 |
gribozavr | AncntOfMuMu: all our hosts are identical, so we don't care where it runs | 19:31 |
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AncntOfMuMu | hmmm, point taken | 19:32 |
AncntOfMuMu | definetly an interesting use case | 19:32 |
gribozavr | calston: previously we were centos only because we need to be compatible with CERN software | 19:32 |
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calston | gribozavr: you're making me sad that I work in the corporate world | 19:33 |
benner | nice, just did "reboot <uuid>" instead "nova reboot <uiid>" :-) | 19:33 |
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gray-- | notmyname: thanks, unfortunately python isn't something i'm well versed in, so i think i need a home-brew solution | 19:33 |
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doug__ | Anyone know how to remove a floodlight controller from an ovs bridge? | 22:33 |
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EmilienM | doug__: ovs-vsctl del-controller br-int | 22:45 |
doug__ | hey man, I like your blog. As soon as you said it I found it | 22:46 |
EmilienM | doug__: :) | 22:46 |
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EmilienM | don't forget to add another controller : | 22:46 |
EmilienM | ovs-vsctl set-controller br-int tcp:x.x.x.x:6633 | 22:46 |
doug__ | ya the problem is the vms off that bridge arent getting ips.... | 22:47 |
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EmilienM | doug__: do you have a running dnsmasq process ? | 22:47 |
doug__ | of course | 22:47 |
EmilienM | are you using vlan somewhere ? | 22:47 |
EmilienM | quantum v1, v2 ? | 22:48 |
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doug__ | not that I know of, before I added the controller vms were getting ips | 22:48 |
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doug__ | i just took it off and am going to see if it works now | 22:48 |
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EmilienM | VMs can't get an IP without controller. | 22:49 |
EmilienM | The constroller is managing the virtual L2. | 22:49 |
EmilienM | and floolight is using the OpenFlow to manage Open-vSwitch on each compute node | 22:49 |
EmilienM | and also on network node (which run DHCP and l3) | 22:49 |
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doug__ | ya ya I know | 22:50 |
EmilienM | be sure that network node run OVS, and is connected to br-int with controller. | 22:50 |
doug__ | I think I'm going to try out this mininet thing with floodlight | 22:53 |
doug__ | this hyperglance thing looks pretty slick too | 22:53 |
doug__ | I wanna try that out | 22:53 |
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