Wednesday, 2013-01-30

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fedgoatfixed it...stupid /etc/hosts file prevented rabbitmq from starting :(00:16
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ThiagoCMCGuys00:30
ThiagoCMCI just install Openstack Folsom on my Ubuntu 12.04 and, when I was editing the Flavors, I hit this: "Error: Unable to create flavor."00:31
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ThiagoCMChow to clean this?00:31
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ThiagoCMCediting mysql database / table?00:31
ThiagoCMCIt is a fresh install...00:32
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radixsleepsontheflo-1: so... in case you're curious, the problem was my enthusiasm for using cutting-edge stuff. I was using the v3 api for role-granting, and which it seems to update all the data visible saying that the user is granted the role, it apparently doesn't work. switched to the v2.0 role-granting API and it works fine.00:34
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sleepsontheflo-1radix - ah ok - that's really good to know - thanks for posting an update.  I've generally just been using 2.0, so that explains things.00:36
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radixmaybe there's some extra step that actually enables logins for the user that it doesn't invoke00:37
radixbut I dunno, I'm clueless :)00:38
FL1SKHi00:38
FL1SKrunning Essex release00:38
FL1SKtrying to get my nested VM's to access the internet00:38
FL1SKany thoughts00:38
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ThiagoCMCguys, when I'm trying to add a new flavor, I'm seeing: nova-api.log: "HTTP exception thrown: Instance Type m1.tlarge already exists." - But it is not!00:43
ThiagoCMChow can I clean this?00:43
ThiagoCMCalso, the m1.xlarge disappeared from my list...00:43
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ThiagoCMCPlease, help! How can I "clean" the flavors table?00:50
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gmiThiagoCMC: edit the mysql table00:56
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ThiagoCMCgmi, what table? can I just delete the flavor roll with problem / deleted?00:59
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gmiThiagoCMC: what version of Openstack are you on?00:59
ThiagoCMCFolsom + Ubuntu 12.0400:59
ThiagoCMCfresh installed00:59
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gmiThiagoCMC:so, there is a table called instance_types01:00
ThiagoCMCokay,,, I'm there... "select * from instance_types;"01:01
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ThiagoCMCcan I delete the lines with "deleted=1" ?01:02
ThiagoCMCthere is no running instances...01:02
gmiThiagoCMC: can you do a: select * from instance_types where name="m1.tlarge";01:03
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ThiagoCMCgmi, that is my problem, there is no "m1.tlarge" flavor. I'm trying to create it.01:05
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ThiagoCMCthe log say: Instance Type m1.tlarge already exists.01:05
ThiagoCMCbut it is not.01:06
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ThiagoCMCthere is no m1.tlarge in the instance_types table.01:06
ThiagoCMCeven if I try to create the flavor "f1.blahbleh", the log say it is already exists...01:07
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ThiagoCMCBTW, sorry about my ugly English...01:08
gmiThiagoCMC:how do you create the new flavor? do you use dashboard or novaclient?01:08
ThiagoCMCdashboard01:09
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gmiThiagoCMC: what are the IDs of the existing flavors?01:10
ThiagoCMC1 sec01:10
ThiagoCMChttp://paste.openstack.org/show/29940/01:10
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mlannerswifterdarrell: https://www.pivotaltracker.com/story/show/4345425701:15
gmiThiagoCMC: clean it up a little bit: delete from instance_types where deleted=1;  and the paste again01:16
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ThiagoCMCdone... let me test it, from CLI this time...01:17
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ThiagoCMCLet me try to create a new flavor using the dashboard as usual...01:19
ThiagoCMCSame error on Dashboard: "HTTP exception thrown: Instance Type m1.xlarge already exists." but: http://paste.openstack.org/show/29942/ - no m1.xlarge there.01:21
ThiagoCMCI'll try using CLI...01:21
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ThiagoCMCthe command "nova flavor-create --ephemeral 50 --is-public yes m1.xlarge 3 8192 90 6" works... But not when using Dashboard...01:24
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gmiThiagoCMC: the cli lets you specify the ID, the same way Essex dashboard was doing; the dashboard in folsom allocates it for you and it has a bug, I think01:25
ThiagoCMCMmm...01:25
gmiThiagoCMC:  you gave the new flavor ID=3 which was not it use and it worked01:26
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ThiagoCMCis there a BUG opened for this issue?01:26
ThiagoCMCmaybe there is a workaround...01:27
gmiThiagoCMC: I created a new flavor and deleted without a problem, so you must have done something different but still it shouldn't break like this01:27
ThiagoCMCanyway, tks for your help! Using CLI will be enough for now...01:27
ThiagoCMCok01:27
ThiagoCMCmaybe my installation can be used to figure this out...?01:28
gmiThiagoCMC: if you are still early in your work, I guess you can delete all rows in that table and add the flavors through Dashboard01:28
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ThiagoCMCok01:28
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nttHi. I'm trying to install openstack controller node from this guide -> http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_network.html . on step 2, when I do sudo apt-get update i have an error W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/it.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch08:36
nttcan someone help me?08:36
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sgranyou have a cache or a proxy that is caching a bad copy of that file?08:38
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nttsgran: no, my server is updated with a simple apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. The problema rise when I install ubuntu-cloud-keyring08:41
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nttsgran: problem solved. It seems that italian ubuntu repository is not excellent09:02
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paramINSTALLATION problem in Openstack .09:14
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VpSI am facing an installation problem while installing opnsatck09:15
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paramunable to access dashboard09:17
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zykes-itarchitectkev: hey09:56
nttWhen i install openstack from this guide http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_controller.html , I had to create keystone database tables before launch the script keystone-data.sh?09:56
itarchitectkevhey zykes-09:56
itarchitectkevzykes-, sorry for lack of chat - currently in a training class09:56
zykes-ah09:57
zykes-training for what itarchitectkev ?09:57
itarchitectkevzykes-, chef09:57
zykes-ah09:57
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nttsorry, I forgot to db_sync09:59
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antituhanhello all10:00
odyssey4meGood afternoon - can anyone assist me with understanding how the keystone logging.conf file works... I'm trying to ensure that it logs to syslog (using Essex code-base) and it doesn't seem to be working.10:00
antituhanHow are you today?10:00
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nttglance image-list returns internal server error (500)10:38
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nttsomeone can help me?10:38
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miguitasntt: check glance logs10:46
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nttmiguitas: api.log or registry.log?10:53
miguitasntt: are there glance.log file?10:54
miguitasare there glance.log files?10:55
nttin /var/log/glance/registry.log i see many  IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/glance-registry-paste.ini'10:55
nttbut glance-registry-paste.ini is in /etc/glance/10:56
miguitastry to restart the services10:56
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nttmiguitas: i'm following this http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/basic-install/content/basic-install_controller.html10:57
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miguitashttps://answers.launchpad.net/glance/+question/213537 <<< check solution in #9 message11:02
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emrahnzmhello11:03
emrahnzmI installed openstack on virtual machines11:04
emrahnzmon virtual box11:04
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emrahnzmI got this error on libvirt http://dpaste.com/900284/11:04
emrahnzmhave you any idea?11:05
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neuro_sysnoluyo burda11:11
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emrahnzmneuro_sys: iplemiyolar beni11:12
emrahnzmkldsşlf11:12
nttmiguitas: this solved part of the problem. I see that glance database have no tables after glance-manage db_sync. Why?11:13
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miguitascheck if there are any error when you made db_sync, may be firewall of missconfig database permissions, could be a lot of things11:15
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emrahnzmbtw, I fixed it11:15
neuro_sysYou're welcome.11:17
emrahnzmI changed libvirt-type in nova-compute.conf11:17
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nttmiguitas: nothing happens in log files11:18
nttmiguitas: I'm see registry and api log files with tail -f, but there is no output during glance-manage db_sync11:18
miguitascheck databse logs11:19
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nttmiguitas: nothing. I cannot find an error11:22
miguitasntt: sorry, check in google, I need to do some work11:24
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miguitasntt: try to follow this guide https://github.com/mseknibilel/OpenStack-Folsom-Install-guide11:27
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miguitasgoog luck11:28
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odyssey4meCan anyone assist me with understanding how the keystone logging.conf file works... I'm trying to ensure that it logs to syslog (using Essex code-base) and it doesn't seem to be working? Details here: https://answers.launchpad.net/keystone/+question/22053211:36
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Qtenhey does anyone know how rackspace did there block storage?11:42
dmiok, can someone give me some insight into the best way to organise quantum with a flat dhcp network?11:43
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dextoneHi all, I got this error when try to deploy openstack-swift http://fpaste.org/iDhK/ any hints ?11:47
antituhandextone, lemme check11:47
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gray--dextone: what's the ownership of /srv/node/device1 ?11:58
dextonegray--, http://fpaste.org/Ad9m/11:59
dextonegray--, its swift:swift11:59
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perfabiohi all12:01
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gray--dextone: just spotted a referece to /dev/device1... any idea where that's from?12:06
gray--dextone: (line 6)12:06
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dextonegray--, yeah just realized that too, trying to figure what happen, brb12:07
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antituhandextone, make sure that your partition doesn't using LVM12:17
antituhanBecause, the config says that /dev/device1 is not found12:18
antituhanPlease check your answer file12:18
antituhanAre you using packstack ?12:18
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bachelorHi. I'm a student at Gjøvik University College, doing a Bachelor Thesis on using IdP in Openstack. Having problems understanding. Will probably come with some stupid question.12:32
bachelorIs there anyone who have som experience in how to implement i.e. openID to openstack?12:33
bachelorSome tips and tricks perhaps?12:34
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norris900Anyone around to give me a hand troubleshooting a new compute node?12:42
norris900service all check in happy, identical nova.conf to other nodes12:43
norris900when i fire up an instance it fails with nothing meaningful in the logs12:43
derekhdextone: I've just been trying to reproduce you problem, I have set CONFIG_SWIFT_STORAGE_HOSTS=192.168.0.23/vdb12:48
derekhdextone: in order of it to mount you need to first make the filesystem on /dev/vdb12:48
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derekhdextone: I'm using ext4, will test xfs now12:49
dextonederekh, yes, I use XFS for testing the swift12:49
ori@devoid: resources belong to tenant12:51
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dextonederekh, I'm using openstack-packstack 2012.2.2-0.7.dev346.el612:52
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derekhdextone: ok, testing xfs now12:52
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derekhdextone: yup, xfs support is broke, as a workaround you can edit /dev/device1 in /etc/fstab to whatever device it should be, I'll get the problem fixed asap, Note you'll also have to make the filesystem13:04
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dextonederekh, ah, thats the culprit13:05
dextone:))13:05
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dextonebeen two days for trying xfs on swift lol13:06
derekhor you can use ext4 that is working, both will be working again soon, sorry for the problems13:06
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dextonederekh, thanks a lot for your help, trying ext4 now13:07
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norris900anyone tell me how to remove a compute host from nova ?13:46
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dextonederekh, testing with ext4 now, new errors output http://fpaste.org/exWW/13:53
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derekhdextone: if you run $ service httpd start in the horizon host what happens ?14:06
dextone[root@controller ~]# service httpd start14:07
dextoneStarting httpd:14:07
dextone[root@controller ~]#14:07
dextonederekh, that's the output ^14:08
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derekhweird so it works, must be a dependency ordering problem I need to sort out, if you rerun packstack again can you see if it gets further14:08
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dextonederekh, can I run the "packstack --answer-file=ans.txt" once again ? or do I need to generate the answer file again ?14:09
derekhrerun it with the same answer file14:10
derekhits usually ok to rerun if you haven't changed any of the values14:10
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dextonederekh, **** Installation completed successfully ****** wohoooo14:12
dextone:))14:12
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spatulonmorning folks14:13
derekhsweet, if you want to add that xfs problem to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/ I'll update that when I make progress on the xfs problem14:13
derekhdextone: as a test does this work, . keystonerc_admin ; swift list14:14
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derekhin root home dir >14:14
derekh?14:14
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dextone[root@controller ~(keystone_admin)]$ swift list14:14
dextone[root@controller ~(keystone_admin)]$14:14
dextonederekh, is that normal ? ^14:14
derekhyup, you dont have anything in there14:15
derekhtry $ swift upload c1 filetoupload14:15
derekhthen swift list14:15
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dextonederekh, it works, here's the output14:17
dextone[root@controller ~(keystone_admin)]$ swift list14:17
dextoneContainerTest14:17
dextone[root@controller ~(keystone_admin)]$14:17
derekhcool, swift list ContainerTest   will show you whats in the container, have fun :-)14:17
dextonederekh, but I was testing to deploy with localnet IPs, how can I change to public IPs without re-installing ?14:18
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derekhahh, that depends on your setup, you may get away with changing the keystone endpoints, or if the hosts have public IP's assigned you can start again (from scratch) and rerun packstack again with the other IP's14:20
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dextonederekh, ah thanks again :)14:23
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flzzGreetings all,  are there any recommendations for a good way to setup DNS on instance creation?  I see nova network has a DNS plugin interface for this purpose, but its useless when using quantum.  I also see moniker but I'm not sure this will work with quantum either..14:30
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flzzah there it is, found the answer on the mailing list,  yes quantum is supported with moniker14:33
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spatulonanyone know the status of http://wiki.openstack.org/ScheduleHeterogeneousInstances?  looks like an interesting project that's been developed since 2011, but I don't see it mentioned in any release of OpenStack, current or planned14:37
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fedgoatcan anyone point me in the right direction for configuring the Compute Node for Cinder?  I'm using a NetAPP San over iscsi..multi-node configuration14:44
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drewlanderwhen trying to launch glance-api i get the following error:14:53
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drewlanderERROR: Unable to load glance-api-keystone from configuration file /etc/glance/glance-api-paste.ini.14:53
drewlanderGot: ImportError('cannot import name exceptions',)14:53
drewlanderim on rhel 6.314:53
drewlanderopenstack-glance-2012.2.1-114:54
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drewlandermy glance-api-keystone looks like this14:54
drewlanderpipeline = versionnegotiation authtoken context rootapp14:54
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drewlanderim at a loss.14:55
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drewlanderi have my keystone auth configs defined in filter:authtoken in both glance-api.conf and glance-registry.conf14:56
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drewlanderalso when doing a glance-manage db_sync I get:14:56
drewlander    from sqlalchemy import exceptions as sa_exceptions14:56
drewlanderImportError: cannot import name exceptions14:56
drewlandermy sql info in the configs i am 99.9999% sure is correct (verified by copy and paste). not sure what else I am missing14:57
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drewlandernm i solved it15:06
drewlanderin /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/migrate/versioning/schema.p15:07
drewlander*/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/migrate/versioning/schema.py15:07
drewlanderchanged from sqlalchemy import exc as sa_exceptions15:07
drewlanderto15:07
drewlandersorry i changed from sqlalchemy import exceptions as sa_exceptions to from sqlalchemy import exc as sa_exceptions15:07
drewlanderlooks like a version thing?15:08
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kramanHi All, is anyone familiar with  OpenStack on F18? I cannot seem to access any external IP address from the guest VM. DNS resolution succeeds but connections timeout.15:36
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nilsson05 < tobias> i really enjoy jerking to the idea of running irssi in screen in ssh in             emacs in x11 in windows15:39
nilssonsorry, paste bufer15:39
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norris900 kraman: have you checked the gateways on your bridge?15:52
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kramannorris900: i have not. im pretty new to the openstack setup. can you point me to how i would go about doing that15:52
norris900route -n15:53
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norris900saw a similar issue on monday where the bridge didnt have access to the external, but dns resolver was an internal so could resolve but not ping15:54
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kramannorris900: http://pastebin.com/SdW7zfsT15:58
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norris900kraman: brctl show will also tell you if your interface is attached to your bridge15:59
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kramannorris900: so demonetbr0 is the bridge that openstack uses16:00
kramanbridge namebridge idSTP enabledinterfaces16:00
kramandemonetbr08000.fe163e075e6fnovnet016:00
kramanvirbr08000.000000000000yes16:00
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kramannorris900: looks like only the guest vnet is attached...16:01
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kramanthat look ok?16:01
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norris900yup looks the same to me, for me i have an external interface attached to the bridge also16:02
norris900that would appear to be your problem, just watch out if its a machine you dont have local access to16:02
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kramannorris900: got local access… will try attaching external interface16:03
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norris900hope that helps :)16:03
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kramannorris900 no luck, that just kills network access from local machine as well16:05
kramanerr, i mean host machine16:05
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norris900kraman: sorry got distracted with my own stack issues16:39
kramannorris900: no worries16:39
kramandid you have any other ideas i can try?16:39
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norris900kraman: it will disconnect but i have found bridging glitchy in the past you may need to just /etc/init.d/networking restart16:40
norris900once adding the interface16:41
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norris900i only say that as if you cant access external after adding the interface it generally means your bridge isnt working correctly16:44
norris900which i have found in the past to be caused by not configuring my gateway16:45
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norris900in your case it could be your nova/quantum config16:47
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kramannorris900 yah, adding the if and restarting didnt help16:48
kramanill check the nova/quantum config next16:48
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norris900anyone good at defining node quotas ? i seem to have exceeded some of mine16:50
norris900kraman: are you using nova-network or quantum?16:51
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sandeeprhey norris900 - which quota attribute is exceeded? i had a few yesterday which i was able to sort like instances, cores, floating ip's16:51
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kramannorris900: i ran through this doc https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_on_Fedora_1816:53
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kramanso. nova-network16:53
norris900sandeep: i have 3 nodes currently and due to using the basic scheduler and bringing up nodes as require i have exceeded the quotas on 1 machine and instances keep spawning on it16:53
norris900is that expected behaviour?16:53
norris900kraman whats your nova.conf look like16:54
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dmihey all16:54
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norris900hey dmi16:54
dmiI've hit a dead end with my configuration16:55
dmiand I'm sure I must be doing something wrong somewhere16:55
kramannorris900: http://pastebin.com/B33z1bui16:55
norris900haven't we all :p16:55
dmibut I've been staring at it all so long I have no idea what's going on :(16:55
sandeeprthe default number of instances which can be provisioned is 10, so if you have 10 instances and then you are no longer able to provision instances, then it is expected behaviour16:55
dmiso, what I've got set up is everything on a single physical machine, including quantum16:55
dmithe physical host is running CentOS 6.3 and has two NICs available for use16:56
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norris900i am still able to provision instances and i'm at around 23 per node16:56
dmiwhat I'd *like* to do is to get the VMs to essentially do VirtualBox-style bridged networking16:56
dmii.e. I'd like them to appear as actual hosts on an existing network, which is on eth016:56
dmithen use eth1 for management16:57
dmiis this actually possible?16:57
dmiI'm using the linux bridge plugin for quantum16:57
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sandeeprso after 23 are you not able to provision instances?16:57
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norris900i seem to be able to provision an infinite number, im at 38vcpus and i set 20 as my limit16:58
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sandeeprso what is the problem and why do you suspect its got to be quotas?16:59
norris900kraman: your nova.conf file is missing about half the details it need including all the network details about bridges and interfaces16:59
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norris900well my problem is that i have over provisioned 2 of my servers, and now instances are having very poor performance. Also spawning instances to a server tha has high load and making things worse17:00
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norris900quotas should prevent this17:01
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sandeeprthis is the link i referred yesterday - http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/list-of-compute-config-options.html search for "quotas" to find the configuration options for quotas17:03
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norris900thanks sandeepr17:04
sandeeprafaik, quotas may not be the right thing. its my thought perhaps could be incorrect17:04
sandeeprwc norris90017:04
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dmiany thoughts on my question, anyone? I'd really like to get this sorted17:05
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kramannorris900 thanks for your help. im reading up on nova.conf entries for nova-network17:10
devoidI'm trying to reset the state of a stuck instance (it's no longer running in kvm);17:10
devoidThe docs on the reset-state command (http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/reset-state.html) indicate that this should work against an Essex era nova-api, but that seems to be untrue.17:10
devoidI get the error: ERROR: There is no such action: os-resetState (HTTP 400)17:11
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zykes-   /clear17:12
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sandeeprdevoid, reset state seems unsupported in Essex, supposed to work in Folsom onwards. i'm having instances which are shutoff and i'm figuring out how to make them active17:13
swaT30getting a key error when trying to do a nova-manage db sync17:14
swaT30http://paste.openstack.org/show/29974/17:14
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norris900woot just ordered myself a nexus 417:15
devoidsandeepr, thanks! Do you know where source for that manual link is so I can fix it?17:15
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devoidnorris900, are they available in the US now?17:15
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norris900im in uk but i read they would be in the us anyday now17:16
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norris900they showed up with providers and google store is a day or two behind the providers with shipments from lg17:17
sandeeprhttp://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/reset-state.html17:18
sandeeprrefer the note section17:18
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devoidsandeepr, yea that's inaccurate, look at the last comment17:19
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sandeeprdevoid, from anne gentle?17:20
zykes-gwmngilfe|n/clear17:20
devoidsandeepr, from nolan17:21
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sandeeprah ok17:21
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sandeeprif you have the latest nova and still reset state does not work, you may want to file a bug on launchpad?17:22
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comptonaIs there any way to expose the name of the user that launched a VM in Horizon?18:19
comptonaI know it's in the database and I could write a report that scavenges it from there, but I'd love to have it in the UI to save myself the trouble18:19
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esteveI'm trying to launch a CentOS image that I uploaded on Openstack but every time I launch it goes 'active' but the console says "Switchroot: mount failed" then kernel panics18:26
esteveit also has "misisng /dev, /sys, /proc" but i dont think thats actually an issue?18:26
esteveI'm not too sure, can anyone shed some light on this?18:26
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patrickt333gmi:  I was not able to get your routine to work, but was able to convert a vmdk image so now I at least have a working ubunut image.n0keynes!18:28
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patrickt333so, I've finally realized why I'm getting the 16.254.169.254 url not found errors.  Tho I don't know how to fix it.18:40
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patrickt333my master server (api) is listening on 8775 and all the ip table nat rules point there.  I can telnet to 80 from my public interfaces, but not from my private interfaces, even tho it is listening on 0.0.0.0.18:41
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patrickt333this is a dual NIC setup, BTW, the eth1 interface on all servers is on a private switch.18:41
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adamgamblehi guys, what is the best way to import a snapshot from essex into grizzly18:59
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adamgambleif I use the create image button in horizon, but i'm not sure what type of images they are19:00
adamgambleone is a kernel (per horizon on essex) and the other I guess is a ramdisk? or maybe an ami?19:00
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norris900comptona: im not sure if its has the features your looking for as i havent had chance to play with it yet but it miht be worth investingating the openstack ceilometer  project19:05
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comptonanorris900: I'll investigate, thanks19:08
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adamgamblenorris900: any chance you could point me in the right direction for importing a snapshot into a new version19:15
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bknudsonI'm trying to figure out why an image doesn't boot on a machine but boots on other machines19:16
bknudsonOne thing I've noticed is that if I virsh dumpxml the image on the failing machine19:16
bknudsonit has <type arch='x86_64' machine='rhel6.3.0'>hvm</type>19:16
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bknudsonwhereas on working machine has <type arch='x86_64' machine='pc-1.0'>hvm</type>19:16
bknudsonhow is openstack/libvirt picking the machine?19:16
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bknudsonI'm probably barking up the wrong tree19:25
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opilotteanyone ever worked with quantum linux bridge plugin?19:27
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opilottewho19:29
kramannorris900: managed to solve the problem19:30
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kramannorris900: i had to check the masquerade zone check box in firewall-config for F1819:30
kramannorris900: was missing an ACCEPT rule in iptables and all my packets were being dropped19:31
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alopanyone know how (in essex) the scheduler determines how much storage space is available for nova-volume?19:34
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alopmy netapp says I have 80TB available, and dashboard says I have 17TB used19:34
alopbut I can't create a 500GB volume because scheduler throws this19:35
alopNo valid host was found. Not enough allocatable volume gigabytes remaining19:35
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opilotteanother question: in router details and network defails, the ports status are all DOWN, is there a way to bring them UP?19:36
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opilottecontext: using quantum linux bridge plugin19:36
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manu-dbGot a questions about quantum, and default routes not being setup on tenant VLANs20:24
manu-dbI've successfully configured quantum on a different cluster of machines and everything seems to work just fine.20:24
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manu-dbI was duplicating the setup on another cluster, but for whatever reason, the default route in the 'ip netns' (for the qrouter for the VM VLAN) isn't set.20:25
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manu-dbthe VM network is 10.26.4.0/24 - the gateway for the network is 10.26.4.1 (setup by quantum)20:26
manu-dbfrom inside a VM, if I 'ping 8.8.8.8', I get a 'route to host not found' error.20:27
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manu-dbsure enough, if I ip netns qrouterFOO route -n20:27
manu-dbthere is no default route... so, my question is - what sets up that default route?20:27
manu-dbon clusterA, the default route is setup with no problem... on clusterB (supposed to be the same config, but probably not) the default route doesn't exist.20:28
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mutexso, I've read lots of docks about what swift is used for vs cinder23:09
mutexbut is there any reason why I should have separate machines running cider and swift vs having them run on the same machine ?23:10
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creihtmutex: depends23:14
creihtthey are really 2 different workloads23:14
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mutexsure23:14
mutexI guess I am not clear where I would find the difference when building a machine23:14
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mutexdoes this mean my images would not longer be stored on swift ?23:14
mutexand instead stored on cinder ?23:14
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creihtmutex: your images will be stored on whatever glance backed by23:15
mutexI see23:15
mutexand one can use either cinder or swift ?23:16
creihtI'm not sure if it has a cinder plugin23:16
mutexI see23:16
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creihtif all you are worried about is storing images, then swift is possibly overkill23:16
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mutexok23:17
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comptonamutex: swift is useful if you expect to have other people storing arbitrary data, like with amazon's S323:18
creihtmutex: can you describe a little more about your use case?23:18
creihtindeed23:18
comptonaif all you're storing in it is VM images, put the glance storage on a RAID mirror and call it a day23:18
mutexyeah I guess I am just trying to understand the practical difference23:18
mutexsure23:19
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creihtcinder provides block storage for vm instances in nova23:19
creihtlike virtual hard drives23:19
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comptonaglance is a service that keeps all of the bits of VM images together, kernels, disks, metadata, etc. and presents them with a standardized API23:19
comptonathe bits can live on swift if you want, but they can also live on a regular filesystem23:20
creihtmutex: perhaps it would help clarify if I said. cinder is to EBS as swift is to S3?23:20
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mutexcreiht: I had read that else where23:20
mutexdoes cinder have distributed replication the way swift does ?23:21
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creihtby default, no23:21
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mutexthe docs I can find keep denoting that I should not be raiding my drives23:21
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comptonawho says that?23:21
creihtit is possible that you can use a storage system that provides replication23:22
creihtthat has a cinder driver23:22
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mutexcomptona: my understanding is that they want rapid access to the raw disk23:23
creihtmutex: is this for cinder or swift?23:23
mutexcinder23:23
mutexof course, maybe I have it all wrong ;-)23:23
creihthehe23:23
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mutexthat's why I am here ;-)23:23
creihtif you are using cinder straight, then raid 10 would be useful23:23
mutexI see23:23
creihtgives you added performance23:24
mutexsure23:24
comptonacreiht++23:24
mutexplus battery backed cache23:24
creihtand gives you some failure protection23:24
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creihtwe don't generally recommend RAID with swift23:24
creihtas it already handles redudancy for you23:24
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creihtand parity raid will performan pretty badly for most swift use cases23:25
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creihtbut like all things, you should design and test with your use cases23:25
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creiht:)23:25
mutexnaturally23:26
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comptonaalso note, if you're not using swift to store images for glance, then I think it would be a good idea to put them on a RAID of some sort23:26
mutexsure23:26
comptonawe actually use Ceph for that23:27
mutexneat23:27
mutexI talked with the ceph guys a few weeks ago23:27
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devoidcomptona: do you use Ceph for backing images and swift for volumes + object storage?23:55
johnz_Is it possible to inject scripts or files into a spawning instance?23:56
comptonadevoid: I use Ceph for backing glance and cinder and do not use swift at all23:56
devoidjohnz_: yes, at the command line the —file dest/path.txt=source/path.txt works for  simple files. And —user-data filename.sh for cloud_init scripts.23:57
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devoidcomptona: cool, we're thinking of putting Ceph on our active storage machines, haven't thought about using it to back cinder and glance. How well does it perform?23:58
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comptonaour implementation is very slow for writes, but I think that's more my fault in configuring it23:58
devoidjohnz_: this is with the nova boot command from the CLI. Are you using the CLI or the web interface (Horizon)23:58
comptonafor instance, I can't turn jumbo frames on on the switch my hypervisors are connected to, and they don't have a separate storage network23:59
comptonaso ceph traffic contends with instance and management and OS traffic23:59

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