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mynameisdeletedhi all05:26
mynameisdeletedso... linux containers vs linux vserver?05:26
mynameisdeletedI'm thiking linux-containers on some nodes and windows + hyperv on others05:27
mynameisdeletedbut linux containers needs some securing.. openvz or vserver might be safer?05:27
mynameisdeletedI want ultra-low overhead virtualization05:27
mynameisdeletedI can offer a node running solaris-containers as well for people who want that and some nodes for bare-metal deployment05:27
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mynameisdeletedI like the light overhead of lxc, and IBM has some papers that describe how to secure it properly05:34
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mynameisdeletedusing selinux and other features05:34
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FlorianOtelhmm... It seems "nova-novncproxy" is b0rk in Ubuntu 12.04 -- it tries to import "websockify" but there is no "python-websockify"  that would satisfy that dependency.11:00
FlorianOtelany suggestions ?11:00
FlorianOtelsee also http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg91008.html11:00
mrungeFlorianOtel, mind to report a bug in launchpad?11:01
FlorianOtelUh-oh, mkay...11:01
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FlorianOtelsure can do11:01
FlorianOtelbut then again it's a downstream issue, not nova per se11:02
mrungeof course, but ubuntu mixes upstream/downstream11:03
koolhead17mrunge: ?11:03
mrungeso, to report an upstream bug: launchpad11:03
mrungekoolhead17, yes?11:03
koolhead17[16:32] <mrunge> of course, but ubuntu mixes upstream/downstream11:03
mrungeFlorianOtel, to report a downstram bug: launchpad11:03
mrungekoolhead17, well, launchpad is both used to report upstream and downstream bugs for ubuntu11:04
mrungebut not for other distributions11:04
koolhead17mrunge: afaik you have to link it with Ubuntu if its a bug in package not in source. I don`t see that mixing part here :)11:05
mrungeFlorianOtel, spoke about not to report a Ubuntu problem in launchpad, because that was clearly a downstream bug.11:05
mrungeI just coulnd't agree11:06
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mrunge(I can agree with the bug, of course!)11:06
FlorianOtelmrunge, koolhead17 Well, somebody went through that already, and was promptly redirected: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ubuntu-testing/+bug/110529211:09
koolhead17FlorianOtel: cool :)11:09
mrungeexactly, good to know11:10
koolhead17mrunge: so if you have to file a bug for a ubuntu package say nova https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova11:10
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DavieyIt seems there might be some confusion going on here...11:10
FlorianOtelmrunge, well yeah, but  I still have an unusable nova-novncproxy11:11
Daviey$ ubuntu-bug nova <-- makes this easier.11:11
mrungehmm, I'd recommend to move the bugs also to openstack.org, like the mailing lists11:11
mrungeto separate clearly upstream/downstream11:11
Davieymrunge: Your recommendation involves a significant amount of work for no gain.11:12
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mrungeoh, yes!11:12
mrungedefinitely, and not everybody will agree11:12
Davieymrunge: Consider sourceforge.. If a distro used that *AND* the upstream did, would you suggest one moves away to make it clearer?11:13
mrungewell, if there's no other downstream, not11:14
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mrungebecause in that case, you just have upstream == downstream11:14
DavieyUgh.  Are you kidding?11:14
mrungeobviously, that's not the case for OpenStack11:15
mrungeDaviey, I'm trying to be serious11:15
DavieyIf there is one consumer of something, it doesn't necessarily mean they are the same entity.11:15
mrungeI agree11:15
mrungealso: not every consumer is able to tell, if a bug is an upstream or downstream bug11:16
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mrungeso: they should report bugs downstream.11:17
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koolhead17mrunge: i don`t see any confusion TBH11:18
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mrungewell, FlorianOtel brought the topic. So, I'm not the only one stumbling upon this11:20
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koolhead17mrunge: we solved it. Cheers!! :)11:22
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wildcan any1 tell me what is openstack??11:22
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PyfHi... I have some problem configuring swift. Is there someone that could help me ?12:27
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Uzixhow to migrate all machines from deceased nova-compute instance?13:06
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maxdmlis it possible to make one nova compute use several cinder ?14:02
zykes-maxdml: hi14:02
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maxdml(please, ofc :p)14:02
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PyfHi... I have a problem configuring swift. Is there someone that could help me ?14:17
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norris900in folsom, whats the easiest way to get an instance stuck in deleting ?14:20
tal-norris900: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/reset-state.html14:22
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tal-Hey, I have a weird issue that happens every time I am trying to launch an instance. When I'm launching the instance it starts its building process and turns into ERROR right after the instance got an IP address saying that there is already an instance with this ID (although it was created as part of the launch process). The message can be found in here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/30987/ . I ran virsh list --all before launching the14:23
tal- process to make sure there are no configured instances and looked at /opt/stack/data/nova/instances/ to make sure there is no instance's folder. Is anyone familiar with this kind of error?14:23
norris900perfect thanks, i knew i'd seen a command like that somewhere14:23
norris900thank you tal-14:23
tal-no problem...14:24
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norris900So interesting problem. I have an instance the mysql database lists as deleting, the kvm process for it is still running, but "nova list" doesnt list it and cannot reset its state15:14
norris900anyone got any ideas how i should takle it?15:14
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fedgoatnorris i have the same problem?i noticed when i do nova list as the specific project user it lists it, but not as admin..the instance itself won't delete...15:18
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gmifedgoat: you have to run "nova list --all-tenants" as admin if you want to see other users instances15:19
norris900fedgoat i cant see my instance under any project15:19
norris900thanks for the nice tip gmi15:19
fedgoatgmi I see?thanks for that?15:20
tal-Hey, I have a weird issue that happens every time I am trying to launch an instance. When I'm launching the instance it starts its building process and turns into ERROR right after the instance got an IP address saying that there is already an instance with this ID (although it was created as part of the launch process). The message can be found in here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/30987/ . I ran virsh list --all before launching the15:20
tal- process to make sure there are no configured instances and looked at /opt/stack/data/nova/instances/ to make sure there is no instance's folder. Is anyone familiar with this kind of error?15:20
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gminorris900: probably the db change happened but nova-compute part didn't, so your instance is now in a bad state; you should check the logs on nova-compute and see why it failed to remove first time, and after fixing the issue you can change the status in the DB and try deleting it again through dashboard or nova-client15:21
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norris900ok i'll go back to the logs , thanks again gmi15:22
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swaT30hey all15:29
norris900hi swaT3015:30
swaT30having an issue with nova permissions for usage show15:30
swaT30policy.json appears to be showing the correct setting15:30
swaT30but getting a 403 permission denied error when trying to use nova usage15:30
swaT30can get instance list, pause/resume instances, etc15:30
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swaT30any ideas?15:32
swaT30running most recent version of trunk15:32
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swaT30appears to possibly have been caused by a recent change15:32
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swaT30debug output: http://paste.openstack.org/show/30991/15:35
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swaT30policy.json: http://paste.openstack.org/show/30992/15:35
swaT30norris900: don't suppose you can help :)?15:36
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gmiswaT30: is it "nova usage" or "nova usage-list" ?15:37
swaT30nova usage15:37
swaT30gmi: it's also breaking horizon15:37
swaT30user was able to do this prior to updates today15:37
swaT30no config changes, just latest from the testing PPA15:38
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norris900sorry swaT30 im only running a day 1 folsom release with no updates15:38
norris900i cant even check for you15:39
gmiswaT30: that's the fun of working with trunk; ask the question in the -dev channel and maybe one of the devs is aware of the issue15:39
swaT30norris900 no worries :)15:39
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swaT30gmi: thanks, just wanted to see if anyone in here had some insight before bugging them :P15:39
norris900I'm building a new stack on friday though :)15:40
swaT30norris900: grizzly is awesome, I'm currently running folsom as well!15:40
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norris90048 cores 800 GB and 24TB, I cant go grizzly yet :(15:40
swaT30well if you can lab it, give it a go! lots of nice new features15:41
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norris900I will do at somepoint though currently trashing folsom in my sand pit15:43
swaT30understandable15:43
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troyahi all15:59
crazedwhen using quantum with openvswitch, when creating a new network how do I assign the vlan_id?15:59
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crazedi see you can pass the --provider:segmentation_id $NUM, but not sure if $NUM is the vlan_id or just a custom identifier16:00
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sgranit's the vlan id16:00
crazedinteresting okay16:00
crazedand in my plugin config, network_vlan_ranges = physnet1:1:409416:01
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troyahi all, anyone know how to create openstack installation wizard webbased ?16:01
crazedi need to set that range to one that is actually usable on my network correct?16:01
sgranthey do separate things16:01
troyai mean anyone can figureout about how it work if i want to create web based openstack installation wizard16:01
sgranthe provider extension (--provider:segmentation_id $foo) allows you to map quantum networks to existing networks16:01
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sgranwithout that extension, new networks are allocated out network_vlan_ranges16:02
sgranso, yes, that should be a useful range16:02
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crazedokay, my use case is really just, as an admin i want to set up shared networks that can be used (ex: dev vs qa subnets), would rather not allow users to assign random vlan_ids16:03
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crazedwhich i suppose i can limit quantum access using the policy.json16:04
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crazedcool though, i'll see about a valid vlan range16:05
gregmarksgran: are these vlan ids seen as vlan tags by the physical network, whether assigned with the provider extenstion or via network_vlan_range?16:05
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crazedmight just need ot push my openstack networks into a higher range16:05
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sgrangregmark: yes16:06
sgrancrazed: we pre-allocate all the networks, for the same reason, and then limit network creation with policy.json, yeah16:07
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crazedsgran: thanks, that sounds pretty sane to me16:07
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po8rhello16:11
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zykes-po8r: hey16:11
po8rany of you'll install openstack?16:11
po8rhi zykes16:11
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po8rhmmm, maybe the guys here think this room is open STACKED16:12
zykes-z:p16:12
zykes-po8r: install openstack where ?16:13
po8ron a server, zykes16:13
po8ri've seen some online videos of the installation, and the dashboard16:13
po8rbut I wanna install it on some old machines16:13
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crazedsgran: do you run the gateway off network gear in your setup? just wondering if that's valid so long as the gateway exists in the vlan_id used by the VMs16:15
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fedgoatanyone have a doc on setting up zones for Cinder, shared storage across multiple compute nodes?16:15
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norris900cinder = pita for me16:20
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crazedhm there's no way to create a shared subnet in quantum is there16:35
crazedbetween multiple tenants16:35
crazedi see a shared network, but not subnet16:35
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gregmarkcrazed: what's the difference if you only assign one subnet to a net?16:36
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crazedgregmark: example being if i have a dev and a qa tenant, and i want members of the dev or qa tenants to have the ability to allocate IPs out of the qa subnet, seems that the qa subnet needs to be shared between dev/qa tenants16:37
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crazedthe actual network can be shared16:38
crazedbut doesn't seem teh subnet can16:38
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crazedi guess i could rethink the tenants16:39
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crazedand use roles within the tenants16:39
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gregmarkALL: when I try to launch a VM with openvswitch in hybrid mode, it fails because brtcl no longer works.16:44
gregmarkthere's a better, longer description of what's going on here: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg20796.html16:44
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zykes-hybrid mode gregmark ?16:47
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gregmarkzykes: libvirt_vif_driver=nova.virt.libvirt.vif.LibvirtHybridOVSBridgeDriver16:55
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zykes-gregmark: what's the error you getting ?16:56
gregmarkProcessExecutionError: Unexpected error while running command.16:57
gregmarkCommand: sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf brctl addbr qbr2218b8c4-7d16:57
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gregmarkI get that in compute.log16:57
zykes-try this then yourself gregmark16:57
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zykes-brctl addbr test16:58
gregmarki did16:58
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gregmarkany attempt to use the brctl command results in this:16:58
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gregmark... /sys/class/net/br-eth1/bridge: No such file or directory16:59
zykes-uhm16:59
gregmarkerr: /sys/class/net/br-eth1/bridge: No such file or directory16:59
zykes-lsmod | grep bridge then gregmark ?16:59
gregmark\/sys/class/net/br-eth1/bridge: No such file or directory16:59
Neonlajtzykes-: stop confiusing people !16:59
Neonlajt:P16:59
gregmarkthat's it16:59
zykes-Neonlajt: oh shush with you :)16:59
gregmarkwhere'd it go?16:59
zykes-lsmod | grep bridge ....16:59
NeonlajtI am workign with swishes zykes-17:00
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gregmarkzykes: that's it17:00
zykes-see if you have the bridge module gregmark17:00
gmigregmark: did you install the bridge-utils package?17:00
zykes-gmi: it seems more like he's having troubles because bridge isn't loaded ...17:01
gregmarkgmi: yes, and then I yum reinstalled it... no difference.  Now what on earth would cause this to happen?  I never unloaded the module.  It comes pre-loaded with 6.3.17:01
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gregmarkIn fact, my controller node still has it.  I kicked it with the same OS image as the compute and network nodes.  But both of them are now missing the bridge module17:02
zykes-gregmark: hence why I said check if it's loaded... and check that the openvswitch brcompat thing isn't loaded17:02
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gregmarkzykes: yes, once again, you got it.  Ten points to zykes house.17:02
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zykes-gregmark: sorry ?17:03
gregmarkzykes: just jokes17:03
zykes-ok :o17:03
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zykes-still getting the error ?17:03
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gregmarkmodprobe bridge says "FATAL: Module bidge not found."17:05
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gregmarkbut rpm -q bridge-utils shows "bridge-utils-1.2-9.el6.x86_64"17:05
sgran"Module bidge" is a typo17:06
zykes-hmm, that's the error anyways17:06
gregmarksgran: sorry.  it now says "FATAL: Error inserting bridge (/lib/modules/2.6.32-279.14.1.el6.x86_64/kernel/net/bridge/bridge.ko): Invalid module format"17:07
sgrandmesg will say something?17:07
sgranbut it sounds like your kernel has a bust module17:07
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gregmarksays "bridge: exports duplicate symbol br_should_route_hook (owned by openvswitch)"17:08
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gregmarkzykes, what did you mean by  "openvswitch brcompat thing"17:08
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sgranah, modprobe -r brcompat17:09
sgran(I think it's called)17:09
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sgranthere's an openvswitch module that tries to provide an emulation layer for linux bridge17:09
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gregmarkdisco.  that fixed it.17:09
norris900disco inferno17:10
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gregmarkso this is something that happens when you start ovs-vswitchd and ovsdb-server for the first time?17:10
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crazedso the end problem was the brcompat?17:11
crazedyou had to unload that module?17:11
crazedi'll probably be dealing with this in a couple17:11
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manu-dbdoes anybody have a working ubuntu12.10+folsom+quantum+openvswitch+vlan configuration working with multiple compute nodes? The openvswitch and routing to/from the VM network w/ quantum-supplied floating IPs works on the single controller/network/compute node setup.17:11
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gregmarkcrazed: yes.  you have the perfect handle.  You have to be crazy to install Folsom on RHEL 6.3.17:11
manu-dbhowever, the compute nodes (that are not the controller node) don't seem to be tagging the openvswitch VLAN with the proper VLAN tag... that is, they're not tagged at all, and they should be tagged with some vlan identifier.17:11
manu-dbcan anybody on here share what a compute node with quantum+openvswitch+vlan is supposed to look like? 'ovs-vsctl show' would suffice.17:12
crazedgregmark: are you doing it on el 6.4?17:12
crazed6.3 *17:12
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gregmarkcrazed: no, 6.3 using the EPEL packages17:12
crazedyeah same17:12
crazedi had to build openvswitch17:12
manu-dbI have also tested manually configuring ports on the openvswitch with specific vlan tags and IPs, traffic goes between the compute nodes w/o any problem in those instances.17:12
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sgranmanu-db: sure, sec17:13
gregmarkI've spent over 100 hours working on this and I've yet to spawn a VM that's available on the network.  Today might be the day though.17:13
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manu-dbgregmark: I hear you brother, this crap is nothing if frustrating to setup.17:14
sgranmanu-db: http://paste.debian.net/233363/ is a compute node17:14
manu-dbalso: does anybody have a setup where they use only two NICs on the controller/network node? So, eth0 is the management network AND the external network... eth1 is the VLAN network?17:14
manu-dbsgran: thanks a bunch! looking now.17:14
manu-dbsgran: Yeah, mine looks like that too... what does it look like when a VM is active on that compute node?17:15
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crazedgregmark: have you gotten --provider:physical_network blah flag to work with quantum net-create? i keep getting Invalid input for operation: unknown provider:physical_network openstack.17:16
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gregmarkyes17:16
sgranmanu-db: http://paste.debian.net/233366/17:16
sgranthat is several VMs running17:17
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sgranmanu-db: the 'tag' line has nothing to do with the vlan tag the VM is attached to.  That is internal tagging between internal switch ports17:18
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manu-dbsgran: oooh, that's helpful. Mine is always set to vlan 1 - which the switch I'm using doesn't forward on.17:19
manu-dbsgran: how do I find which vlan tag is associated with the VM?17:19
crazedoh i bet i know what it is17:19
crazedplugin.ini not in sync17:20
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manu-dbsgran: Do you know of any documentation that I could read on how to debug whether or not the 'br-vm's between two compute nodes are setup correctly?17:21
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sgranmanu-db: first, tcpdump on the physical interface in the bridge17:22
sgrando you see traffic leaving?17:23
manu-dbsgran: nope17:23
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gmimanu-db: can you paste what you have now and maybe we can help; show us the following: compute1: "ovs-vsctl show", "ip link show" then on the network node "ovs-vsctl show", "ip link show" and " ip a show"17:23
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manu-dbsgran, gmi: Ok, I'll get everything dumped to a pastebin and ping both of you - thanks...17:24
gmimanu-db: how do you tcpdump? try "tcpdump -i eth1 -e -n -vvv udp and port 67 or port 68" on the compute node while doing a dhclient in the instance17:24
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zykes-gregmark: told you it was bridge related !17:25
crazedgregmark: you ever plan on getting namespacing to work? i know CONFIG_NET_NS=y in el6.3, but looks like iproute package needs an update17:25
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gregmarkzykes: yep!17:26
crazedalways a bit sketched out about upgrading core packages in rhel land17:26
gregmarkcrazed: I plan on running a very bleeding edge installation here... but first I need to get an accessible VM spawned :(17:27
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gmimanu-db: "quantum net-show net_ID | grep segmentation_id" will show  the VLAN ID used by that network; make sure that vlan is added to the trunk port connecting the compute node to the switch and the vlan is active (you have to make it active on a Cisco switch); then you can check what MAC addresses were learned by the switch on that port17:28
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gregmarkcrazed, btw, here's how I ran net-create: quantum net-create --tenant-id $(stack_id -t demoProject) demo-net --provider:network_type vlan --provider:physical_network physnet1 --provider:segmentation_id 102417:28
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gregmarkthe stack_id thing is just a script I wrote to substitute the service,user,tenant, etc ids17:28
sgranis physnet1 mapped to a useful bridge on the compute nodes ?17:28
crazedgregmark: thanks, yeah i found my problem being --provider:physical_network blah where blah wasn't in my plugin.ini, i hadn't sync'd the config around yet17:29
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manu-dbgmi, sgran: my controller/network node config and the compute node config - http://paste.debian.net/hidden/92d8f6c2/17:32
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manu-dbsgran, gmi: physnet1 is mapped to physnet1:br-eth1 on the compute node and the controller/network/compute node (it's a 3-in-1 node)17:34
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manu-dbsgran, gmi: bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-eth1,physnet2:br-ex on controller/network/compute node ... bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-eth1 on the compute node17:35
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manu-dbsgran, gmi: Also, note that I'm not using Cisco network gear - I'm using a Netgear GS-105E VLAN-capable switch and have enabled VLAN tags 1-10 for all ports (I don't know if that means that it operates in a trunking configuration)17:37
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manu-dbgmi, sgran: # quantum net-show 4bebe206-aa27-4441-a94a-0e828e745ce6 | grep segmentation_id --> | provider:segmentation_id  | 3                                    |17:38
gmimanu-db: I don't see the tapde77d0d1-12 interface listed on your network node; if you check "ps aux | grep dnsmasq", what interface is dnsmasq listening to ?17:39
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manu-dbgmi: # ps aux | grep dns17:40
manu-dbnobody    8674  0.0  0.0  28880   972 ?        S    12:11   0:00 dnsmasq --no-hosts --no-resolv --strict-order --bind-interfaces --interface=tapde77d0d1-12 ...17:40
manu-dbgmi: It's there, right?      Port "tapde77d0d1-12"             tag: 1             Interface "tapde77d0d1-12"                 type: internal <--- isn't this it?17:41
manu-dbgmi: Just to be clear - VMs started on the controller/network/compute (3-in-1 node) get their IPs just fine... they see the DHCP server, etc.17:41
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manu-dbgmi: It's VMs started on the compute nodes that don't seem to have connectivity via br-eth1 (VM VLAN Data network) that don't seem to be able to get a DHCP address.17:42
manu-dbgmi: Each compute node doesn't need to run its own DHCP server, does it?17:42
manu-dbThat is, DHCP should propagate through br-eth1 (VM VLAN Data network), right?17:43
gmimanu-db: "ip link show" should show the tapde77d0d1-12 interface as UP, can you ping its IP from the network node?17:43
manu-dbgmi: Should I be in the network namespace when I do the ping?17:44
manu-db(for the router it's attached to)?17:44
gmimanu-db: you didn't say you're using namespaces :)17:45
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manu-dbgmi: woops, sorry - I thought that was the default :P17:45
manu-dbgmi: I can't ping it form outside of the network namespace for the router the DHCP Server is attached to... I CAN ping from the inside of the network namespace for the router the DHCP Server is attached to.17:45
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manu-dbgmi: Should I turn network namespaces off? I don't really need it.17:47
gmimanu-db: it's ok, if you're using namespaces that the output you pasted seems ok; can you do "tcpdump -i eth1 -e -n -vvv udp and port 67 or port 68" on your compute node while you do "dhclient" inside the instance runing on that node?17:47
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manu-dbgmi: Doing that now... one sec.17:47
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norris900anyone tell me if having nova-api running on a compute node is likely to cause it problems?17:52
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crazedwhen trying to launch an instance into a specific subnet, what flag do i need exactly?17:52
norris900(trying to figure out some wierdly interlaced problems)17:52
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crazednvm --nic netid=17:56
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manu-dbgmi: zero output from "tcpdump -i eth1 -e -n -vvv udp and port 67 or port 68" when a cirros image is booting - Starting network... udhcpc (v1.18.5) started Sending discover... Sending discover... Sending discover... No lease, failing WARN: /etc/rc3.d/S40-network failed cloud-setup: checking http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id wget: can't connect to remote host (169.254.169.254)17:56
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manu-db: Network is unreachable17:56
manu-dbgmi: So, it seems like the br-int bridge isn't forwarding traffic to br-eth1 (it's definitely not showing up on eth1)17:57
manu-db(on the compute node)17:57
manu-dbalso note that the new VM was added as this:    Bridge br-int         Port "qvoaa182b78-06"             Interface "qvoaa182b78-06" (note, no VLAN tag)17:58
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norris900lol instance with external ip but no internal ip, im getting some good bugs17:58
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manu-dbgmi: I tore down all the VMs and booted a new instance on the compute node, just to make sure there wasn't anything crufty left over. The old VM, on the openvswitch bridge, had a tag=1, the new VM does not have any such tag.18:00
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gmimanu-db: can put in pastebin "grep qvoaa182b78-06 /var/log/quantum/openvswitch-agent.log| head"; I want to see how the interface was created; also, can you double check the version of the quantum packages in the controller and compute servers?18:01
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gmimanu-db: I had the same issue with no internal tags added to interfaces created on a newly deployed compute node, although an older compute node was fine and it turned out the new node was built with packages just pushed in the Folsom repo18:03
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gmimanu-db: time for lunch, but I'll check with you when I come back18:05
manu-dbgmi: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4572bce6/18:06
manu-dbgmi: ok, thanks :)18:06
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manu-dbgmi: I placed the installed packages in a comment attached to the pastebin above - nova 2012.2.1+stable-20121212-a99a802e-0ubuntu1.1 / quantum 2012.2.1-0ubuntu118:09
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crazedUnable to load the virtualization driver: Class LibvirtHybirdOVSBridgeDriver18:10
crazedcrap, where's that file supposed to live18:10
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crazedgregmark: hey, what package did you use to get the LibvirtHybirdOVSBridgeDriver?18:14
crazedseems python-nova-2012.2.2 doesn't have it18:14
gregmarkcrazed: hrm... I think openvswitch18:14
gregmarkno wait...18:15
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gregmarkcrazed: maybe kmod-openvswitch-1.7.3-1.el6.x86_64?18:16
crazedno it's a python thing for sure18:16
gregmarkcrazed: file name you're looking for?18:16
maurosrannegentle: hey, around?18:16
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gregmarkcrazed: http://pastebin.com/YmCTUaY218:17
crazedgregmark: looks like i typo'd LibvirtHybridOVSBridgeDriver18:18
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crazedi had hybird18:18
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swaT30are there any good OS billing projects out there?18:23
swaT30I've read up a bit on Dough, but haven't heard much about it18:23
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manu-dbgmi: Looks like something is going south ~1 minute before the new VMs interface is added to the OVS - http://paste.debian.net/hidden/72f508af/ -- I don't see the interface being fully configured...18:24
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manu-dbgmi: Hmm, I'm getting this error: ERROR [quantum.openstack.common.rpc.common] Timed out waiting for RPC response: timed out ... every couple of minutes in openvswitch-agent.log18:30
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crazedgregmark: sudo nova-rootwrap /etc/nova/rootwrap.conf brctl addbr qbrffeb505e-ae\nExit code: 1\nStdout: ''\nStderr: 'add bridge failed: Package not installed\\n'\n"18:30
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crazedgregmark: you ran modprobe -r brcompat right?18:30
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crazedproblem is that will kill the networking on my compute node, which is fine just need to figure out why18:31
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manu-dbgmi: Here's the list of packages that are installed on this compute node: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/0433c21f/18:32
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kodokuhi , it is possible to change the ip address that uses VMs to their metadata requests ?  exemple 169.254.169.254 ==> 192.168.73.1  ????18:36
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manu-dbgmi: I changed from [AGENT] rpc=True to [AGENT] rpc=False in /etc/quantum/plugins/openvswitch/ovs_quantum_plugin.ini and restarted that quantum module... no more errors. Going to try seeing if it'll see DHCP again.18:42
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crazedgregmark: i have some good news for you, i think the problem is you need to run ovs-brcompatd18:42
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kodokuhi , it is possible to change the ip address that uses VMs to their metadata requests ?  exemple 169.254.169.254 ==> 192.168.73.1  ????18:43
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crazedgregmark: yep running ovs-brcompatd --pidfile --detach on my compute node got the compat stuff working18:45
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gmimanu-db: do you have the quantum-server package installed on your compute only node?18:47
crazedgregmark: http://openvswitch.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=openvswitch;a=blob_plain;f=INSTALL.bridge;hb=branch-1.718:48
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manu-dbgmi: WOO HOO! It works!18:49
manu-dbgmi: That was the problem... rpc was failing, for whatever reason.18:49
manu-dbgmi: I can see DHCP stuff on the compute node now... the VM on the compute node got an address!!!18:49
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gmimanu-db: congrats :)18:49
manu-dbgmi: Thanks so so so much, I've been working on trying to figure this out for about a week now!18:50
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gmimanu-db: well, you got it working on your own18:50
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manu-dbgmi: I had looked at the openvswitch-agent.log several times and dismissed the error because I had been bouncing the controller node and just assumed the errors were from that. I never would have given it a second look if you hadn't asked me to print out the interface being setup.18:51
manu-dbgmi: I didn't see the interface being setup, so I remembered that somebody at some point had some issue where rpc=True was set in the [AGENT] section in the config file.18:52
manu-dbgmi: Okay, so why does the message queue stuff fail when rpc=True?18:53
zykes-what controller manu-db ?18:53
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manu-dbzykes-: I don't understand the question? What software am I running on the controller?18:53
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manu-dbzykes-: Am I running RabbitMQ?18:54
zykes-ah, nvm manu-db. I missed it :)18:54
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crazedso I see my bridges in ovs-vsctl list-br and ovs-vsctl list-ifaces qbr22ad6b34-a5 shows vnet0 and qvb22ad6b34-a518:55
crazedbut it doesn't seem my dhcp-agent got added to that bridge18:56
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crazedusr/sbin/dnsmasq --no-hosts --no-resolv --strict-order --bind-interfaces --interface=tap4b0696a4-b0 ..18:56
zykes-crazed: try ovs-vsctl show instead of list-ifaces btw18:57
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crazedwow thats a lot better, thanks zykes-18:57
zykes-;)18:58
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crazedhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/31013/18:58
zykes-crazed: ovs-dpctl dump-flows br-forward < is useful also for dumping openflow rules18:59
manu-dbgmi: Are you at Rackspace?18:59
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crazedso it looks like my dnsmasq is attached to br-int18:59
crazedwhich is just a bridge to my main interface that has various VLANs trunked18:59
gmimanu-db:no, why?19:01
manu-dbgmi: Do you work on OpenStack? You seem to know a good bit about it...19:01
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manu-dbgmi: In any case, mind sending me your manager's e-mail and your name in a private message? I'm the founder of a financial services company and a chair of several standards groups at W3C. I want to send your manager a glowing letter about how helpful you've been over the past couple of months. You've helped me a number of times in here. I just want your manager to know that you're doing a...19:05
manu-db...great job.19:05
gmimanu-db: I've been working on Openstack since the cactus release, but Folsom+Quantum is the most complicated and difficult to implement/troubleshoot; I don't think there is anybody actually putting this release in production (with Quantum and SPOF networking), but I still have to keep up with the new stuff anyway19:05
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gmimanu-db: thanks, but I'm not sure my manager would be very interested on how much time I spent on IRC :)19:07
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manu-dbgmi: I understand... :) - in any case, thanks for the help - ping me if you need any help w/ anything related to Web standards - http://www.linkedin.com/in/manusporny/19:09
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manu-dbgmi: Rackspace/NASA should hire you to help folks in this channel... if you're interested, I know some core folks at Rackspace, I could pass your resume on. :P19:10
crazedzykes-: any insight into why my dhcp_agent (dnsmasq) wouldn't have its interface attached to the new bridge for my new subnet?19:11
crazedit actually doesn't seem to have even tagged the bridge with any vlan19:11
zykes-crazed: not sure atm, a bit busy with some stuff atm sorry :(19:12
crazedzykes-: it's okay, i'll keep looking through some docs so i can get a better handle on ovs19:13
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swinchencan anyone give me any hints on getting floating ips working with quantum?  I am not sure if I have it working or not...  but I can create networks and launch VM's that seem to attach to that network.19:17
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dotaltonswinchen, did you attach the floating ip to the public network?19:28
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crazedso i see a pattern here, everyone's busy trying to get quantum working haha19:36
swinchendotalton: Hrmm...  no, I haven't even created a public network yet.   I am trying to find some documentation on workflow/howto19:36
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swinchenI also fear that my choice of distro (CentOS 6.3) may be a problem.  It doesn't look like iproute2 is new enough to support linux networking namespaces.  I have namespaces disabled in my configuration files, but I am really sure of the consequences.19:37
dotaltonswinchen, this should set you straight: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/l3_workflow.html19:37
dotaltonis there a reason you are using 6.3 specifically?19:38
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manu-dbgmi: You had asked me if quantum-server was running on the compute nodes - it is not, should it be? It seems to work w/o the quantum server running.19:44
swinchendotalton: because I absolutely hate Ubuntu.19:44
swinchendotalton: That and I figured CentOS would probably be better for a highly-availabe server19:44
swinchendotalton: thanks for the link19:45
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gmimanu-db: in this pastebin it looks like you have the package quantum-server installed on your compute node: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4572bce6/   and it's normally only installed on your quantum-server (usually same as controller)19:48
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NuxRoswinchen: EL 6.4 will bring all the new stuff to fully support quantum (full namespace support, openvswitch etc) and it's about to be released very soon from what I hear19:48
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manu-dbgmi: Yep, it's installed, it just doesn't run at boot... good to know it typically only goes on the quantum network node, though.19:50
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swinchenNuxRo: Hrmm, I wonder when that is due out.19:50
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swinchenWithout network namespaces is it still possible to get a working cluster (although crippled)?  It looks like I can only support 1 router....  I am not sure of the other limitations.19:52
gmimanu-db:actually, it's more normal for quantum-server to go on the controller node which usually is a different node than the network node; in your case, controller, network and compute are running all on one server, but in production you would probably separate these functions; quantum-server takes care of the quantum API (it listens on port 9696) and it's accessible from the Internet to users can make API calls to it19:54
NuxRoi think the limitation on 1 router is for everyone, not really good with this stuff though19:54
swinchenMe either :P19:54
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manu-dbgmi: right - got it, thanks.19:55
NuxRoswinchen: right now to fully use quantum with all the bells you need newer kernel, newer iproute and newer libvirt.. you might as well go with gentoo :)19:55
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manu-dbgmi: I uninstalled quantum-server on the compute nodes just to be sure...19:56
NuxRoswinchen: oh, and openvswitch :)19:56
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swinchenNuxRo: I do have the latest openvswitch!  Had to compile it seeing it isn't the EL repo.  Bummer!   Really I don't want to go with Fedora/Ubuntu because I don't want the constant updates.  CentOS is nice because there really only seems to be security related updated20:03
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NuxRoswinchen: EL will get a really nice openstack-stack, just be a bit patient, there're many very smart ppl at redhat working on it20:04
zykes-openstack-stack ?20:05
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NuxRocould've used cloud-stack, ops :)20:05
zykes-what is that NuxRo ?20:06
zykes-commercial product from RH?20:06
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NuxRozykes-: which one? RH will have commercial openstack offerings afaik20:06
swinchenUnfortunately I don't have the luxury of being patient...  the people I am building this for want it ASAP.  Hrm.   I may to switch over to fedora temporarily.20:06
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zykes-NuxRo: I meant with openstack-stack20:07
zykes-swinchen: stick with Ubuntu LTS20:07
zykes-that's the most optimal path imho20:07
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swinchenzykes-: I just dislike it so much!   For example... when you stop iptables it doesn't clear the rules.  Annoyances like that drive me crazy.   But you are right, I might have to switch over to that.20:09
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zykes-swinchen: ubuntu also has a "cloudarchive" and openstack is tested very much against ubuntu20:09
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swinchenzykes-: cloudarchive?  Never heard of it.20:10
swinchenI am assuming ubuntu server lts is fine?20:10
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NuxRoswinchen: something like this http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/openstack/ , but for ubuntu20:11
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zykes-swinchen: 12.0420:13
zykes-yes20:13
swinchenugh... based on this it looks like LTS only supports essex:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/CloudArchive20:13
zykes-swinchen: no20:13
zykes-LTS will support many more then Folsom ++20:13
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swinchenOk, thanks zykes- it almost seems like openstack should have its own distro.20:13
zykes-swinchen: using cloudarchive you have LTS support for it20:14
NuxRozykes-: will folsom be updated for 5 years?20:15
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NuxRoor till whenever 12.04 its EOL20:15
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zykes-that I dunno NuxRo, maybe zul or Daviey can give input for you there20:17
NuxRothat would be indeed cool20:17
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crazedman openvswitch hurts my brain slightly20:29
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zykes-crazed: what's the issue ?20:29
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swinchencrazed: I feel your pain.20:30
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zykes-swinchen: shush, it's not that bad!20:30
crazedhaha well20:30
zykes-it's far better then using bridging for advanced stuff ;p20:30
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crazedi blame quantum20:30
sgranit makes perfect (if slightly complicated) sense once you get the hang of it20:30
crazedfor the unreadable names20:31
crazedof the interfaces20:31
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crazedand bridges20:31
sgranoh, they're just generated from instances and so on20:31
crazedyeah20:31
zykes-:)20:31
crazedit's hard to figure out why i can't hit dhcp20:31
crazedbecause i have to wade through similar-looking bridge/inteface names20:31
crazedit seems i have a tap device tagged with 1 where my dnsmasq is bound to20:32
crazedand i have an interface tagged with 1 attached to br-int (which goes to my em1/network)20:32
sgranso, the basic idea is that you have an integration bridge, which everything plugs into.  Imagine this is your core switch.  Then, each port on that goes to a VM, via a bridge.  It would be as if each port on the core switch was patched to a hub in a room, and that's where you plugged your machine in20:32
crazedyeah i get that much20:33
rwloveHello room. I am trying to configure keystone. I seem to have created endpoints and services, but they seem to be disassociated. When I created the endpoints I passed the service ids and they were printed as part of the generated table output. However, the 'endpoint-get --service ec2' returns that the 'Client' object has no attribute 'service_catalog'20:33
swinchenSo is the whole idea of quantum to replicate a physical network in software?   That is what it seems like with creating routers, and networks, etc.20:33
sgranswinchen: yes, network as a service20:33
crazedyeah it's similar to crossbow20:33
gmicrazed: these two docs are helpful: http://packetpushers.net/openstack-quantum-network-implementation-in-linux/ and20:33
gmihttps://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/1554502520:33
crazedif you ever played with it20:33
zykes-swinchen: kinda, it's to abstract away your underlying technologies into a "api"20:33
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zykes-or in other terms make it programatic20:33
zykes-like you do with compute and so on20:34
sgrancrazed: where is your dhcp server running?  On the controller?20:34
swinchenRight now I have an instance that _should_ be accessible at 10.0.0.3 but alas I can not get to it.   Hrmmm.  I created a router and added the subnet to it.20:34
dolphmrwlove: you should upgrade keystoneclient, but the issue is that you're running with token / endpoint instead of authenticating with user / tenant / auth url20:35
crazedsgran: on a compute node currently (didn't set up a bridge on my controller yet)20:35
sgranare you using network namespaces /20:35
sgran?20:35
crazedno i'm not20:35
sgranok, that makes it slightly easier20:35
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crazedoh wow good haha20:35
sgrancan you pastebin the output og ovs-vsctl show20:35
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sgranand how many VMs/networks/etc at the moment?20:36
dolphmrwlove: it doesn't help that endpoint-get doesn't behave like the other *-get commands :(20:36
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crazedsgran: http://paste.openstack.org/show/31022/20:36
crazedsgran: 1 network, though i think 2 may show up since there is an old config from nova-network appearing20:36
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crazedsgran: 1 vm20:36
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sgranok, this is not how I expected to see things20:36
crazedi basically took down everything to upgrade to essex20:36
sgranyou seem to have your physical network interface attached to br-int ?20:37
crazedyes20:37
rwlovedolphm, gotcha on keystoneclient, I'm just going through the online deploy and install doc for ubuntu20:37
sgranand then you have an openvswitch top level bridge with a generated name?20:37
sgranthat doesn't match my expectations20:37
rwlovedolphm, I don't understand the second half of your statement... give me a moment to try and understand it20:37
sgranthe normal model is that you have a br-int to patch everything into.  It does not have an uplink, it just routes requests to and from VMs20:38
sgranthen you have a br-vm or something that contains a physical interface20:38
rwlovedolphm, I was trying to confirm my keystone install and I was trying with the user/tenant/auth_url method20:38
rwlovedolphm, and it failed, so I tried to confirm that my tables were correct with the token mode20:39
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crazedsgran: intesting, so br-int should contain all the generated bridges/interfaces20:39
crazedand should have a second bridge with my physical net connected?20:39
rwlovedolphm, I confirmed that the services had been created and that the endpoints had been created20:40
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crazedhow do you get cross connectivity?20:40
rwlovedolphm, but I couldn't see anywhere that they were associated20:40
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sgrancrazed: yes20:40
sgranhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/31023/20:40
sgranthe quantum agent on the compute node connects them for you20:40
sgranbut you'll see the interconnect port in that output20:40
gregmarksgran: those tags are real VLAN tags?20:40
sgranthat's a compute node with several VMs running20:40
sgrangregmark: yes, but no20:41
sgranthey are 'real' tags, in that openvswitch isolates the traffic across and between it's internal switches with those tags20:41
crazedsgran: which config do you modify to tell quantum agent to create the interconnect?20:41
sgranbut it's got nothing to do with the ethernet headers that leave the machine20:41
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crazedis that the bridge_mappings?20:41
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crazedoh that's even more interesting20:42
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rwlovedolphm, when I try to do this: keystone --os-username=admin --os-password=secrete --os-tenant-name=demo --os-auth-url=http://F24:35357/v2.0 token-get20:42
crazedbasically each quantum network uses a local vlan_id?20:42
crazedhow does it get tagged on teh way out of the machine onto the physical network20:43
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rwlovedolphm, it returns that NoneType object has no attribute 'replace'20:43
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gmicrazed: read this post and hopefully it's going to help you understand quantum better: http://packetpushers.net/openstack-quantum-network-implementation-in-linux/20:43
crazedgmi: thanks20:43
sgrancrazed: 'bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-vm' tells it to use br-vm for traffic outside of the local machine, yeah20:44
sgran"basically each quantum network uses a local vlan_id?" no - each VM uses a local vlan id for isolation.20:44
crazedah that's cool20:45
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crazedah i got it, so when i create quantum networks i should create a new bridge that has the right vlan tagged20:46
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crazedand set up the plugin config20:46
crazedto mapp that20:46
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sgranin our setup, what we do is have the switches trunk all the vlans we use to all the machines on a given nic20:49
sgranthat nic is in a preallocated openvswitch bridge named br-vm20:49
sgraneach machine also has a preallocated openvswitch bridge named br-int20:50
sgranwe set 'bridge_mappings = physnet1:br-vm' in the config file to let quantum know which bridge to use for intermachine traffic, and it uses br-int by defauly20:50
sgrandefault*20:50
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fedgoatHaving problems deleting instances upon Error  http://paste.openstack.org/show/31025/   I'm not seeing anything specific with cinder why this might be happening?any ideas?20:53
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swaT30fedgoat: I'm running into a similar issue. are you running from trunk?20:58
swaT30except mine is giving a timeout error20:59
swaT30http://paste.openstack.org/show/31026/21:00
fedgoatyea..hrm21:01
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fedgoatyea i cant figure out what's going on there isnt anything in the cinder logs21:03
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crazedsgran: interesting, so i already have vlans trunked to my NICs on the compute nodes, the segmentation_id used when creating a network in quantum will make traffic leaving my br-vm from that network use the correct vlan_id in the ethernet headers?21:09
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crazedthis looks much better21:18
crazedwith a br-int and br-ext21:18
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crazedhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/31029/21:20
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crazednow i just need to figure out why dhcp isn't working21:21
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crazedi can see via tcpdump  the dhcp request coming through on the interface dnsmasq is bound too, but no replies going back21:23
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crazedi also see the mac address in the dhcp hostsfile21:24
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crazedaha! iptables is wrong21:32
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crazedwhy would it think my dhcp server is on an IP that it isn't21:33
sgranah, I know that one21:33
sgranyou have two ports on that network owned by network:dhcp21:34
sgranquantum port-list -- --device_owner network:dhcp21:34
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sgranyou might have something stale hanging around, or you might have two dhcp servers21:34
crazedinteresting21:34
crazedyeah i started dhcp_agent on my controller one time21:34
crazedthen realized that's not what i wanted21:35
crazedand moved it21:35
sgranyou do, actually, want it on your controller21:35
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crazedyeah you're right21:35
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crazedi should get that going21:35
sgranwhy do you have Bridge "qbr4ce3cac1-f1" as top-level21:35
sgran?21:35
sgranthat looks wrong to me21:35
crazedhm i don' tknow?21:35
crazedi got an ip address but certainly can't ping out21:36
crazedi can destroy the node and create a new one, i feel like the data there might be stale21:37
crazedhm nope, still creates the bridge top level21:38
crazedex: http://paste.openstack.org/show/31035/21:38
sgranI think that's because you don't have anything corresponding to 'physnet1' in my pastes above21:38
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sgranunless that's how you have br-ext configured?21:39
crazednetwork_vlan_ranges = openstack:1001:200021:39
crazedbridge_mappings = openstack:br-ext21:39
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sgranare you creating your networks attached 'openstack' ?21:40
crazedyes, but how can i confirm?21:41
sgranwell, actually, bed calls21:41
sgrangood luck with it21:41
sgranquantum net-show <uuid>21:41
crazedokay21:42
crazedthanks21:42
crazedyou helped a ton21:42
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crazedthe answer being yes21:45
crazedhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/31038/21:46
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ppradhanall, i am trying to debug the issue where the instance boot and can't reach the metadata. any idea where to start?22:07
ppradhani have a simple network running nova-network22:07
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crazedhm, anyone able to explain how vlan_ids get set when leaving the physical network?22:27
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crazedseems that's the last piece of my puzzle22:28
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fedgoathttp://paste.openstack.org/show/31043/  Having issues deleting instances on a Folsom MultiNode+Quantum Install22:33
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crazedsgran: the difference is caused by the hybrid ovs bridge driver, i'm going to go with the basic one for now23:05
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