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| fjay | replacing my current diablo openstack cluster with folsom anyone have any thoughts pro/con re kvm vs. xen? | 01:07 |
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| fjay | one hitch we had w/ diablo kvm not being able to migrate.. hot or cold. | 01:09 |
| lifeless | I find kvm easier to reason about | 01:11 |
| lifeless | but xen has been around longer | 01:11 |
| fjay | kvm has been fine so far.. other than the migration part but i think someone here worked around it | 01:12 |
| fifieldt | fjay, I'm sad to report that the documentation for xen is quite out of date, so it could be more difficult on that basis | 01:13 |
| fifieldt | personally, I use kvm and it works fine for about 6k cores so far | 01:13 |
| fjay | is it easy/possible to mix/match hypervisors? | 01:13 |
| fifieldt | possible, yes | 01:13 |
| fjay | awesome | 01:14 |
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| fifieldt | easy ... see http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/scheduler-filters.html and look at hypervisor_type | 01:14 |
| fifieldt | and determine whether it meets your definition of 'easy' :) | 01:14 |
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| fjay | well that doesnt seem so bad | 01:16 |
| fifieldt | maybe have a play with a couple of devstacks and see if you can get it working | 01:17 |
| fjay | nice | 01:18 |
| fjay | i am more thinking of mixing kvm lxc stuff | 01:19 |
| fjay | but its just a random thought that will prob not materialize :) | 01:19 |
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| ankit_ | HI, I'm an undergad. student of Computer Science and need some help regarding deployment of openstack for my project (Specifically speaking What value should one provide in Public IP range? Is it the IP range of our LAN or any other?) | 03:38 |
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| khanhndq | hello everyone, i'm new member. So need more your help | 08:18 |
| khanhndq | anyone help me any information concerned to how to setup the development environment for coding, debugging and testing ... | 08:19 |
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| erkules | Im overwhelmed by openstack :/ i.e. in glance (glace-api.conf) I give 2 credentials. the mysql-one and another. For what is every one precisely responsible? | 08:57 |
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| Adri2000 | erkules: what is the other one.? | 09:03 |
| armaan | erkules: you give two credentials, one is database connection string and other one is authentication mechanism | 09:03 |
| dal_ | Hey, I can see some users in dashboard but nothing with command nova-manage user list. What's happening ? | 09:06 |
| dal_ | the only strange thing with nova-manage --debug command is this : | 09:06 |
| dal_ | 2013-02-18 10:05:01 DEBUG nova.utils [req-7d1ddf3e-3c21-493c-9412-be385b628226 None None] backend <module 'nova.db.sqlalchemy.api' from '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.pyc'> from (pid=6447) __get_backend /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/utils.py:658 | 09:06 |
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| dal_ | I also can precise thaht I didn't enable ec2 API. Is nova-manage need this API ? | 09:10 |
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| Adri2000 | dal_: I think you can ignore that warning. do you see the users in keystone? | 09:21 |
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| norris900 | morning all | 09:26 |
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| dal_ | Adri2000, yes, I can see users with keystone user-list command | 09:32 |
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| roundyz | Hello | 10:02 |
| roundyz | When ever the bridge comes up on my controller node I am unable to login remotely..However the route table seems fine to me... | 10:03 |
| roundyz | route | 10:03 |
| roundyz | Kernel IP routing table | 10:03 |
| roundyz | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface | 10:03 |
| roundyz | default 10.10.100.1 0.0.0.0 UG 100 0 0 eth0 | 10:03 |
| roundyz | localnet * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 | 10:03 |
| roundyz | 10.10.250.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 br100 | 10:03 |
| roundyz | 192.168.100.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 br100 | 10:03 |
| roundyz | any ideas? | 10:03 |
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| erkules | armaan: thx. so database is for own metadata administration and the other one is for registration? to say "hey im glance I would like to serve you an image"? | 10:25 |
| sgran | roundyz: your routing table means nothing to me. Can you back up a step, take a deep breath, and explain (using pastebin where necessary) what your setup looks like, what you think it should do, and what it actually does? | 10:27 |
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| dal_ | So, I expose you again my problem. keystone user-list lists some users but nova-manage user list lists nothing. Some ideas ? | 10:36 |
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| armaan | erkules: second one is to authenticate glance with signed request, this request is signed by token which you requested by sending http requestfrom dashboard to keystone. After authentication glance will be be able to serve image data. | 10:38 |
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| dmi | dal_: "nova-manage --debug user list" perhaps? | 10:41 |
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| dal_ | dmi, no really useful information : | 10:41 |
| dal_ | root@ubuntu-12:/home/guest# nova-manage user list | 10:42 |
| dal_ | 2013-02-18 11:42:04 DEBUG nova.utils [req-6b72cd1b-539c-4210-ac3a-efa16126c547 None None] backend <module 'nova.db.sqlalchemy.api' from '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/db/sqlalchemy/api.pyc'> from (pid=24009) __get_backend /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/utils.py:658 | 10:42 |
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| dmi | dal_: er, what? my nova-manage doesn't have a "user" subcommand | 10:42 |
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| dal_ | dmi, my OS version is essex. | 10:45 |
| dmi | oh, sorrry -- missed that | 10:46 |
| dmi | *sorry | 10:46 |
| dmi | can't type today :( | 10:46 |
| dal_ | dmi, my problem is that I'm trying to export project info with nova-manage project. But it says me that my user doen't exist. Then I tryied to list user with nova-manage user command ... | 10:47 |
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| dmi | hmmm | 10:54 |
| dmi | sorry, Essex is out of my experience | 10:54 |
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| dal_ | dmi, ok. But it is really shity this problem because I don't have any log or something else about this ... i will go to the mailing list ;) | 10:56 |
| dal_ | dmi, thx | 10:56 |
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| dmi | dal_: sorry I can't help more | 10:57 |
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| dal_ | dmi, no pb. I understood. | 10:58 |
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| erkules | armaan: thx | 11:20 |
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| itarchitectkev | dal_, anything i can help with? I spent too long with Essex | 11:25 |
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| dal_ | itarchitectkev, yes ;) | 11:26 |
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| dal_ | itarchitectkev, keystone user-list lists some users but nova-manage user list lists nothing | 11:27 |
| dal_ | and I'm not able to get some information about this problem | 11:27 |
| dal_ | no strange log, nova-manage --debug user list says nothing | 11:28 |
| itarchitectkev | nova-manage user is used to manage deprecated auth users - so managing users that aren't using keystone | 11:28 |
| dal_ | ok, thx | 11:28 |
| dal_ | My initial problem is that nova-manage project zipfile --user=admin etc, says that I the user admin doen't exist. But it exist via keystone | 11:29 |
| itarchitectkev | dal_, essentially if you created a user with nova-manage you're creating it in the nova database and can only be understood by nova. if you use keystone, it gets stored in keystone's db and accessible for the rest of the services using keystone | 11:29 |
| itarchitectkev | dal_, yes, you're mixing to auth systems up | 11:30 |
| itarchitectkev | you manage projects with keystone | 11:30 |
| dal_ | yes | 11:30 |
| dal_ | ok | 11:30 |
| itarchitectkev | or 'tenants' as they're known | 11:30 |
| itarchitectkev | so forget nova-manage for users and tenants | 11:30 |
| dal_ | ok | 11:30 |
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| dal_ | in order to use CompatibleOne, I need to have some information which are present in the zipfile generated by nova-manage project zipfile. | 11:31 |
| dal_ | but I'm not able to use nova-manage project because the user is not know by nova-manage. | 11:32 |
| itarchitectkev | dal_, the information in that zip file are things like environment variables and tenant information | 11:32 |
| dal_ | and you can not specify a tenant with nova-manage tool | 11:32 |
| dal_ | ok | 11:32 |
| itarchitectkev | dal_, yeah essentially don't use nova-manage tool for what you want to achieve | 11:32 |
| itarchitectkev | even for managing projects etc | 11:33 |
| itarchitectkev | they should be created in keystone | 11:33 |
| itarchitectkev | even in essex | 11:33 |
| dal_ | ok, really useful information ;:) | 11:33 |
| dal_ | then I have to adapt the tuto that i'm following with compatibleOne. | 11:33 |
| dal_ | thx very much for these information. | 11:34 |
| itarchitectkev | if you created a user and project using nova-manage you need to continue to use nova-manage, but it doesn't scale at all | 11:34 |
| itarchitectkev | its ok for a test set up | 11:34 |
| itarchitectkev | instead, duplicate the information using keystone commands | 11:34 |
| dal_ | I have used keystone to create user, project ... | 11:34 |
| dal_ | then I will continu with it | 11:34 |
| itarchitectkev | ok - then use keystone then you manually create the environment files (that nova-manage conveniently does for you) | 11:35 |
| itarchitectkev | ping me if you have trouble with the env vars | 11:35 |
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| dal_ | yes, since I know that nova-manage are almost deprecated, I will be easy for me to continu my project. | 11:36 |
| dal_ | Thx for your help ! | 11:37 |
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| pithagorians | hi all. we wanna have some public cloud with our own customized web face that will contain some more functional over the one related to openstack. we started to look how horizon is build and change it so it will fit our needs. do you think it's the right way? | 11:44 |
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| itarchitectkev | np dal_ :) | 13:08 |
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| flaper87 | markwash: ping | 13:11 |
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| dmi | sgran: (non-urgent) ping? | 13:52 |
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| Adri2000 | how can I override the URIs returned by the nova and glance APIs to a GET / request? | 13:58 |
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| Adri2000 | (contexct: I've got a reverse proxy setup) | 13:59 |
| Adri2000 | -c | 13:59 |
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| sgran | use the reverse proxy tool to rewrite them? | 14:00 |
| sgran | dmi: pong | 14:00 |
| dmi | sgran: so IIRC, my OS setup is similar to yours | 14:00 |
| dmi | with an internal bridge that plugs into the integration bridge | 14:01 |
| dmi | i.e. br-vm containing eth0, br-vm being physnet1, and then br-int that VMs plug into | 14:01 |
| sgran | nod | 14:02 |
| dmi | cool | 14:02 |
| dmi | so I've been experiencing weird network issues | 14:02 |
| dmi | e.g. SSH will refuse to connect properly | 14:02 |
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| dmi | it exchanges the initial SYN, SYN/ACK, ACK | 14:02 |
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| dmi | then my machine on the outside never sees anything else from the VM (including the SSH banner and the FIN/ACK it sends when it gets fed up waiting) | 14:03 |
| sgran | reduce the mtu on your vm | 14:03 |
| sgran | see if that fixes it | 14:03 |
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| dmi | while using tcpdump to check this out, I forgot to add -p while looking at br-vm... and it started working | 14:03 |
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| dmi | so I was wondering if you've noticed any issues with promiscuous mode? | 14:06 |
| sgran | nope | 14:06 |
| * dmi sighs | 14:06 | |
| dmi | ok, it's just something I'll keep an eye on | 14:06 |
| sgran | what OS ? | 14:06 |
| dmi | centos | 14:06 |
| sgran | there is something, let me try to dig it out of the back of my brain | 14:06 |
| sgran | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/compute-configuring-guest-network.html | 14:07 |
| sgran | "Set your network interface in promiscuous mode so that it can receive packets that are intended for virtual machines" | 14:07 |
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| dmi | yeah, I've found that since :) | 14:08 |
| sgran | :) | 14:08 |
| dmi | but I don't understand why it worked for a while, then I deleted all the VMs and created another batch... and it stopped | 14:08 |
| dmi | I might be misremembering, but I don't recall touching the machine other than doing that | 14:08 |
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| Adri2000 | sgran: you mean rewriting stuff inside the response's body ? :/ I was rather expecting some way to configure this directly in nova-api and glance-api | 14:24 |
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| sgran | set the endpoints in keystone and the correct urls in config files and it just does the right thing here | 14:28 |
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| Adri2000 | sgran: well, then I've got something missing in my conf... if you know exactly what configuration option has an effect on this I'd be interesed :) | 14:44 |
| Adri2000 | +t | 14:44 |
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| sgran | I have things like nova_url=http://blah.blah.blah:8774/v1.1/, and I have the same as the endpoint in keystone | 14:46 |
| sgran | blah.blah.blah is a load balancer, not the actual host | 14:46 |
| sgran | this works fine | 14:46 |
| kbringard | sorry to jump in the middle, but I missed the initial problem | 14:46 |
| kbringard | what's the issue? | 14:47 |
| Razique | hi guys :) | 14:47 |
| sgran | I don't have one | 14:47 |
| Razique | hey kbringard :) | 14:47 |
| sgran | Adri2000 does | 14:47 |
| kbringard | sgran: right, Adri2000's :-) | 14:47 |
| kbringard | hey Razique, how you doing brotherman? | 14:47 |
| Razique | great thanks :D | 14:47 |
| kbringard | awesome, glad to hear it | 14:47 |
| Razique | was around there and that, playing with HA lately in openstack | 14:47 |
| Razique | what about you man ? | 14:47 |
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| kbringard | doing well | 14:48 |
| Adri2000 | kbringard: reverse proxy setup, GET / request on nova-api and glance-api returns stuff with the wrong URIs inside | 14:48 |
| kbringard | Adri2000: that's odd | 14:48 |
| kbringard | if you cut out the proxy and go straight to keystone does it work? | 14:48 |
| kbringard | Razique: mostly just trying to keep my head above water so I can go back to being a useful member of the OS community :-D | 14:49 |
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| Adri2000 | kbringard: example with glance: with OS_IMAGE_URL=http://ip:9292/v1 glance index works; with OS_IMAGE_URL=https://pretty_reverse_proxy_url/image/v1/ doesn't work | 14:52 |
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| Adri2000 | --debug shows it ends up at a wrong URI | 14:52 |
| kbringard | hah, was just going to ask | 14:52 |
| sgran | ah, you're altering the URI path | 14:52 |
| sgran | I'm not | 14:52 |
| sgran | I'm allowing the port to handle the virtual server differentiation for me | 14:53 |
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| kbringard | yea… the way I have my load balancers setup is just to pass traffic back to the pool of IPs, it looks like you're adding /image/ in there | 14:53 |
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| Adri2000 | the GET / requests on either http://ip:9292/ or https://pretty_reverse_proxy_url/image/ return the same thing | 14:55 |
| Adri2000 | that is the list of supported APIs with their respectif URIs. http://ip:9292/v1/ http://ip:9292/v2/ | 14:56 |
| Adri2000 | that's wrong I think :) | 14:56 |
| sgran | you have something like glance_api_servers=ip:9292 in nova.conf, I guess? | 14:57 |
| Adri2000 | I do... and didn't try to put the pretty_reverse_proxy_urls in there. I was assuming this was only used for communication between nova and glance | 14:59 |
| Razique | kbringard :) same here | 14:59 |
| Razique | was busy lately, but will be more around since OpenStack is more on the menu | 14:59 |
| Adri2000 | sgran: do you think I should try changing that option? | 14:59 |
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| sgran | the endpoints in keystone are for the communication | 15:01 |
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| sgran | try it? | 15:01 |
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| Adri2000 | not better | 15:04 |
| Adri2000 | I'd have been surprised that changing nova.conf would affect glance's behavior, actually | 15:05 |
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| Adri2000 | the image endpoint in keystone is the reverse proxy url, btw | 15:05 |
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| sgran | ah, if you want to affect where the wsgi actually serves from, change /etc/glance/glance-api-paste.ini | 15:07 |
| sgran | search for composite:rootapp | 15:07 |
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| sgran | you'll see some urls | 15:07 |
| sgran | or, some paths, rather | 15:08 |
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| norris900 | anyone willing to chat to me about backup stratergies | 15:17 |
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| dmi | norris900: make and test backups? ;) | 15:17 |
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| norris900 | dmi exactly | 15:17 |
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| dmi | but yes, I'd also be interested in suggested ways of backing up openstack things | 15:18 |
| Adri2000 | sgran: it looks like the right area of the configuration indeed :) I tried setting full uris instead of the paths, but it's probably not the right way: glance-api will either not start or loop like crazy filling up the logs... | 15:18 |
| dmi | then again, my particular use-case leans towards ephemeral clusters that can be easily rebuilt | 15:18 |
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| norris900 | a sensible stratergy , trying to get my users to use a secondary partition is a nightmare | 15:19 |
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| norris900 | im currently looking at a way of scripting the copy of /var/lib/nova/instances but unfortunately as the instances are live it breaks the copy process | 15:21 |
| dmi | suspend the instances first? it depends what they're doing | 15:21 |
| norris900 | exactly | 15:21 |
| dmi | the other way would be to host /var/lib/nova/instances on a filesystem that supports snapshots | 15:21 |
| dmi | then pause the instances, sync, take a snapshot, then unpause? | 15:22 |
| norris900 | i have 3 instances running mysql database replication | 15:22 |
| dmi | you'd have a blip of unavailability, but the VMs themselves wouldn't noti... oh | 15:22 |
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| norris900 | that blip is long enough to break the replication :( | 15:22 |
| dmi | yeah | 15:23 |
| dmi | in that case, you'd have to be aware of what the instance(s) is/are doing | 15:23 |
| norris900 | i already back the data up on those machines but am trying for a system wide elegant solution | 15:23 |
| norris900 | :) its been a headache of mine for quite a while now | 15:24 |
| dmi | I guess you've read http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/backup-nova-volume-disks.html and http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/nova-disaster-recovery-process.html ? | 15:24 |
| dmi | (disclaimer: I haven't yet) | 15:24 |
| norris900 | i've been looking around, havent found anything lately but that looks like its ephemeral based also | 15:25 |
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| melmoth | norris900, i may suggest something stoopid, but what about nova image-create for backuping vms ? | 15:27 |
| norris900 | hmmmm tricky, thanks for the input dmi | 15:27 |
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| norris900 | thanks melmoth but that will still create downtime long enough to break replication | 15:28 |
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| norris900 | will have to find a way of sequencing the instances with a graceful shutdown by the looks of things | 15:31 |
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| norris900 | lol this is not a new problem. http://compgroups.net/comp.os.linux.misc/copy-a-file-while-it-is-actively-being-wri/12331 | 15:35 |
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| dmi | norris900: you can do FLUSH TABLES WITH READ LOCK, take the lvm snapshot on the host, then UNLOCK TABLES | 15:40 |
| dmi | as described at the bottom of http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/backup-methods.html | 15:40 |
| dmi | (I think) | 15:40 |
| dmi | see the final comment, rather than the end of the article | 15:41 |
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| sgran | postgres has a pg_backup() function that does that for you | 15:42 |
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| norris900 | mmmm an intriguing option, thank you dmi | 15:44 |
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| dmi | np norris900 | 15:45 |
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| norris900 | and thanks sgran but the devs i'm supporting are commited to mysql | 15:49 |
| norris900 | they seem to enjoy making my life as complicated as possible | 15:49 |
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| sgran | just smile and say, "sure it's mysql, no problem ..." | 15:51 |
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| Madkiss | can I make quantum auto-connect newly added subnets with an existing router? | 16:09 |
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| norris900 | dd = my favourite power command that just doesnt give a damn about file locks | 16:15 |
| norris900 | also probably the best way to break my system :p | 16:16 |
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| johncarse | Hello all | 19:38 |
| johncarse | I am troubleshooting the boot of my openstack installation (ubuntu precise, devstack, all-in-one) | 19:39 |
| johncarse | It was working just fine | 19:39 |
| johncarse | But, for some reason, all of a sudden, it started to not work | 19:39 |
| johncarse | after a reboot | 19:39 |
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| johncarse | it doesn't look like the bridge network is coming up | 19:41 |
| johncarse | of course.. I'm not sure, in the init, where it starts.. seems to be a /etc/init.d/libvirt command | 19:42 |
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| johncarse | My install is folsom | 19:46 |
| johncarse | Anyone? | 19:46 |
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| lucid- | gents - any thoughts on the dashboard erroring out on 'python manage.py compress'? even after running python manage.py compress in dashboard document root | 19:52 |
| lucid- | still get the same error | 19:52 |
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| benner | lucid-: did you restarted apache? | 20:16 |
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| lucid- | benner: yeah | 20:26 |
| lucid- | benner: indeed i did. | 20:27 |
| johncarse | Hello all | 20:27 |
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| johncarse | I decided to just rebuild the box | 20:39 |
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| johncarse | I'm not sure what happened to the install.. seemed to just die.. | 20:40 |
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| johncarse | What time are support folks usually online here? Where are the majority of the support people located? | 20:40 |
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| giulivo | guys, can anyone help me with a simple network flatmanager? | 21:44 |
| giulivo | I have a single nic on the host, where an external dhcp provides ip addresses | 21:44 |
| giulivo | I want the vms to be plugged on such an interface via a regular linux bridge | 21:44 |
| giulivo | I set flat_bridge_interface in nova.conf | 21:44 |
| giulivo | is that all I need to do? or should I create the network manually using nova-manage? | 21:45 |
| giulivo | if so, how? | 21:45 |
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| lucid- | FYI - the epel6 horizon package errors out on centos 6.3 with the manage.py compress error (running compress does not fix the issue, even after apache restart). however, pulling down latest horizon release form github works fine. | 21:47 |
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| rainya | ttx? | 23:11 |
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| gregmark_ | All: so it seems like it's a common problem for launched VMs to be unable to get their metadata from 169.254.169.254 | 23:26 |
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| gregmark_ | is it necessary for each compute mode to run nova-api or nova-api-metadata? | 23:27 |
| gregmark_ | Or is it enough to have your metadata_host set in the compute node's nova.conf file? | 23:27 |
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| gregmark_ | My compute node, Folsom on 12.10, does not have an interface for 169.254.169.254 like it does on RHEL or Fedora. Is that normal? | 23:46 |
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