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| JoeJulian | racker_KevinS: One difference between our outputs is that my endpoint-list output also contains the service_id for each of those. There must be a version difference in there somewhere. | 00:03 |
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| racker_KevinS | kvad: you can use 'keystone user-role-remove' and 'keystone user-role-add' to add adjust permissions in different tenants but I do not know of a way to adjust the default tenant other than to directly update the db | 00:07 |
| JoeC | clarkb: Well, I'll be damned. Now all the tests built and ran. I have NO idea what I did differently this time than last. but whatevers... :) thx for your help | 00:09 |
| JoeJulian | racker_KevinS: In that debug log, is it relevant that the response for the admin auth returns "is_admin": 0 | 00:10 |
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| JoeJulian | It seems to me that would cause a problem with the policy.json | 00:11 |
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| kvad | racker_KevinS: thanks alot thats what i thought just wanted to make sure that was my only out :) | 00:21 |
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| racker_KevinS | JoeJulian: No matter what sort of request I make (whether it be admin, regular user or service user) , "is_admin" is always 0… does "keystone user-role-list" for the glance user in the service tenant return the admin role? something is off somewhere, running this version btw : 2012.2.1-0 on ubuntu 12.04 | 00:30 |
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| rehanift_work | Does anyone know Swift's policy for concurrent uploads? I googled around and couldn't find anything. | 00:38 |
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| prometheanfire | it can handle it if that is what you are asking | 00:42 |
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| rehanift_work | I am experiencing a bug in Essex, wanted to know if its known behavior or not | 00:45 |
| rehanift_work | 2 files, one large (10M) and one small (1k). Start uploading larger object, then start uploading smaller object. Both objects are writing to the same object URL. | 00:46 |
| rehanift_work | Small object finishes uploading and responds with small object's MD5 in ETag. Describing the object reproduces again the small object's MD5 in ETag. Large object is still uploading | 00:46 |
| rehanift_work | Large object finishes uploading and responds with large objects large object's MD5 in ETag. Describing the object now responds with small object's MD5 in ETag. | 00:46 |
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| arij | hey | 00:51 |
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| arij | is it true that i would need one server just as a controller? | 00:52 |
| bodepd | I'm seeing alot of scheduling failures when I run the full tempest test suite. | 00:52 |
| bodepd | how many compute instances with how much RAM do people usuall run? | 00:53 |
| bodepd | I have a feeling that the compute/test_servers.py tests churn through resources faster than my one compute with 2.5 GB/RAM can deallocate them | 00:53 |
| clarkb | bodepd: the tempest tests that run against an all in one install (installed by devstack) on an 8GB VM | 00:53 |
| clarkb | yeah I think 4GB was the minimum we were able to get away with but bumped to 8GB to give tempest the ability to run multiple tests in parallel | 00:54 |
| bodepd | I'm 10 failures away from getting the folsom branch to run against a puppet deployed controller/compute deployment! | 00:54 |
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| clarkb | that should say the tempest tests that run in the gate run against an all in one install... | 00:56 |
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| bodepd | https://gist.github.com/bodepd/5034834 | 00:56 |
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| bodepd | even though my compute should have available RAM | 00:57 |
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| bodepd | I am assuming this is b/c although the tempest/tests/compute/test_servers.py tests destroy VMS | 00:57 |
| bodepd | they may not wait for them to deallocate them before the next test? | 00:58 |
| bodepd | have you seen this? | 00:58 |
| clarkb | bodepd: I believe that is correct | 00:58 |
| clarkb | because waiting is slow and time is more important in the gate | 00:58 |
| bodepd | are those the only tests that bring up and tear down VMs really fast? | 00:58 |
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| bodepd | if those are the only failiures I see, is it likely that is the cause? | 00:58 |
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| arij | can some one recommend me hardware to get started with openstack? | 00:59 |
| clarkb | yes I think that is likely the cause. jaypipes or sdague would know more if there are other tests that do the samething | 00:59 |
| clarkb | bodepd: you should be able to confirm by bumping your compute node to 4GB | 00:59 |
| bodepd | cool. I can try again with 8GB/RAM and see if that works | 00:59 |
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| bodepd | while I have an expert online, one more question. | 01:00 |
| bodepd | No OpenStack Network API endpoint, and SKIP: VolumeListTestJSON skipped as Cinder endpoint is not available just mean things are missing from keystone's catalog? | 01:01 |
| jaypipes | clarkb: there's lots of tempest tests that spin up servers quickly and then kill em. | 01:01 |
| arij | sigh | 01:01 |
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| bodepd | jaypipes: weird, hopefully that does not disprove my theroy | 01:01 |
| clarkb | bodepd: that sounds right. keystone lets you do an endpoint discovery | 01:01 |
| jaypipes | arij: you will need to be more specific in your question. | 01:01 |
| jaypipes | bodepd: are you using the stable/folsom branch of tempest? | 01:02 |
| arij | i basicallywant to start a business and offer iaas | 01:02 |
| arij | i would like to use openstack | 01:02 |
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| bodepd | jaypipes: yes. | 01:03 |
| arij | i already have a vps hosting service with over 200 customers | 01:03 |
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| arij | im not sure what kind of hardware i would need to start | 01:03 |
| bodepd | (well, a slightly patched version) | 01:03 |
| JoeJulian | arij: Any reason not to run it on the same hardware you're using now? | 01:03 |
| jaypipes | arij: that would entirely depend on the kind of compute resources your clients would want. | 01:03 |
| clarkb | cinder is optional in folsom so unless you have it then I expect tempest to not test it | 01:03 |
| jaypipes | bodepd: l | 01:04 |
| jaypipes | bodepd: k | 01:04 |
| arij | i have partners... this would be my own project | 01:04 |
| arij | i see jaypipes | 01:04 |
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| jaypipes | arij: but I would not recommend running openstack on just one node, no... | 01:05 |
| arij | so one would be a controller, correct? | 01:05 |
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| arij | recommended ram on said node? | 01:06 |
| jaypipes | arij: yes (or >1 if you want an HA setup). the controller doesn't need to have nearly the amount of RAM or CPU cores as the compute worker(s), though. | 01:06 |
| arij | i see | 01:06 |
| jaypipes | arij: for a small setup, 8GB and quad-core should be fine. | 01:06 |
| JoeJulian | jaypipes: Why not? From an devops standpoint, openstack fills in a lot of blanks even on a single system (imho) | 01:06 |
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| arij | tbh i would most likely go with 128gb for the main node, how do you think that would work out ? | 01:06 |
| jaypipes | arij: and then the compute workers are where you make your money :) so invest in RAM and cores on those boxes. | 01:06 |
| b1tbkt | what is the magic incantation to get a floating ip accessible inbound. it already works correctly for outbound traffic. | 01:06 |
| jaypipes | arij: "main node"? you mean the controller? | 01:07 |
| arij | nope | 01:07 |
| arij | the other one | 01:07 |
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| arij | the money node | 01:07 |
| arij | lol | 01:07 |
| jaypipes | arij: yeah, we use 144G/24-core boxen here and those are the compute workhorses... for the controllers and ops nodes we can use smaller. | 01:07 |
| arij | cool, thanks jaypipes | 01:08 |
| arij | where can i do some reading? | 01:08 |
| jaypipes | JoeJulian: oh, just preference, that's all... if you want to run a small private cloud, of course you could do it all on one big node. | 01:08 |
| arij | any good place to start? | 01:08 |
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| jaypipes | arij: unfortunately, not really :( operating an openstack cloud doesn't have nearly the same amount of real-world documentation efforts as the developer side of OpenStack. | 01:09 |
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| arij | bummer | 01:11 |
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| arij | jaypipes, do you know anything about this dell crowbar software ? | 01:12 |
| arij | or anyone else for that matter | 01:12 |
| lifeless | arij: I know a little | 01:12 |
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| arij | how is it? does it make everything very easy? | 01:12 |
| arij | to install? | 01:12 |
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| lifeless | It automates a lot of the tedium | 01:13 |
| arij | would you recommend using it? | 01:13 |
| arij | is there a better alternative? | 01:13 |
| jaypipes | arij: we don't use crowbar, no. we do use chef though. | 01:13 |
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| lifeless | There are several alternatives :) - plain check, saltstack, juju, RH have something, we're putting together Heat rules for deploying openstack. | 01:14 |
| jaypipes | arij: we have a mixed dell and non-dell hardware environment. | 01:14 |
| arij | i see | 01:14 |
| arij | im quite fond of dell servers, i think i will go all dell | 01:14 |
| jaypipes | arij: up to you. nothing wrong with dell servers. | 01:15 |
| jaypipes | saltstack FTW. | 01:15 |
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| arij | jaypipes, sowould any old server do as the controller, or something a bit nicer | 01:19 |
| arij | like a r610 maybe | 01:19 |
| jaypipes | arij: totally depends on the amount of traffic you expect the node to take. | 01:21 |
| arij | i see | 01:21 |
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| kvad | hey guys does anyone know what the default cache time out for a keystone token is? | 01:27 |
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| sdague | bodepd: reading backlog, the folsom branch of tempest probably needs min 4G, and better for 8G on your compute to test it out | 01:48 |
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| mynameisdeleted | so.. why would horizon take tons of cpu power? | 07:36 |
| mynameisdeleted | or the apache process with horizon installed | 07:36 |
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| engkur | hi all | 08:21 |
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| engkur | i am just build openstack 3 node for learning | 08:22 |
| engkur | what the best arch ? 1 node controller+storage and 2 node compute | 08:22 |
| engkur | or 1 controll+storage, 1 network, 1 compute | 08:23 |
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| melmoth | engkur, i would go for 1 controller (everything but compute) and 2 computes | 08:33 |
| melmoth | i think the most important, for learning, is to have at least 2 compute nodes | 08:33 |
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| melmoth | so you can see how the bridge work (or does not....) | 08:33 |
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| engkur | yup, thanks, but i have 1 p4 old server 32bit, and 2 xeon newer server, 64bit, vt-x enable | 08:38 |
| engkur | ist this old p4, capable running controller node, | 08:39 |
| melmoth | give it a try | 08:39 |
| engkur | just curius | 08:39 |
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| P3n74 | hello, is there a possible workaround for the xen UEFI bug? | 08:40 |
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| sandeepr | melmoth, i'm setting up controller, network, compute on the same node. 2 interfaces, linux bridge plugin. this should still work? i'm asking based on your response earlier - <melmoth> so you can see how the bridge work (or does not....) | 09:30 |
| melmoth | everything could work | 09:30 |
| melmoth | it s all modular | 09:30 |
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| sandeepr | thanks | 09:31 |
| melmoth | but if you only have 1 compute node, you wont be able to play with the bridge | 09:31 |
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| melmoth | and you may have a broken setup without even realising it | 09:31 |
| sandeepr | i had a ovs based 3 node setup which ran into issues | 09:32 |
| sandeepr | hence i took this approach | 09:32 |
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| sandeepr | i'm not able to understand "you wont be able to play with the bridge" and "you may have a broken setup' | 09:32 |
| sandeepr | i thought the plugin should still do its job with the single eth? | 09:33 |
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| melmoth | what i m saying is, with only 1 compute node, you will miss opportunity to experience problem having vm communicating with each others | 09:34 |
| melmoth | because they will all be hosted on the same host | 09:34 |
| melmoth | so obviously, the networking between them will be easier than if they were hosted on 2 separate machine | 09:34 |
| engkur | melmoth, can i play with HA and load balance with 2 node compute ? | 09:34 |
| melmoth | no idea, but i doubt. | 09:34 |
| melmoth | highly availabitly usually means more machine... | 09:35 |
| melmoth | with 2 nodes, all you are left with is to have two copy of each servicxes on each machine | 09:35 |
| melmoth | but i never did ha anyway. one problem after another | 09:35 |
| sandeepr | ok got it - perhpas for the time being i'm running away from not want to encounter that problem since i have had nightmarish experience about it :-) :-) | 09:35 |
| sandeepr | thanks as always for chiming in | 09:36 |
| engkur | melmoth, HA within vm node... like traditional HA cluster in cluster-labs | 09:37 |
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| melmoth | ohhh. That s another problem i havent been playing with neither | 09:38 |
| melmoth | i m not even sure there s a way to automatically do that. | 09:38 |
| melmoth | the usual sharing virtual ip between service and pacemaker/corosync stuff seems difficult to put in | 09:38 |
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| mynameisdeleted | so.. horizon can get quite slow | 09:59 |
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| kutija | when I get this OpenStack working I will get myself drunk | 10:53 |
| kutija | really really drunk | 10:53 |
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| engkur | kutija, drunk ??? why, what did u drink | 10:56 |
| kutija | nothing except a lot of coffee so far but I will get something much stronger | 10:57 |
| kutija | when I finish with my OpenStack deploymnet | 10:57 |
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| vkmc | lol | 10:58 |
| vkmc | kutija, is it giving you some headaches? | 10:59 |
| kutija | yes it does, a lot | 10:59 |
| kutija | but I'll manage | 10:59 |
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| vkmc | Good luck with it :) | 11:00 |
| kutija | hopefully today it will start working | 11:00 |
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| kutija | thanks ;) | 11:00 |
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| kutija | but still i'm planning to get drunk as soon as I'm over with it :) | 11:00 |
| engkur | kutija, me too, i drink nescape coffee, i dont smoke, i dont drink a bir... | 11:01 |
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| Ritz | I always smoke, Damn, | 11:01 |
| engkur | kutija, did you try another cloud software, cloudstack, opennebula ? | 11:02 |
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| kutija | engkur: nope, I did not | 11:02 |
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| dmi | kutija: I hear you | 11:06 |
| dmi | I have plans to celebrate this working | 11:06 |
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| engkur | hmm celebrate like what ? | 11:13 |
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| kutija | like live music and lot of various types of rakija and beer :) | 11:15 |
| engkur | uh... i like make a headphone, couse 3 server in my desk, with alot of noise... | 11:19 |
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| b_52globe | hi guys | 11:43 |
| b_52globe | anybody using swiftstack ? | 11:43 |
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| dmi | how do I control the IP given to the host | 11:59 |
| dmi | ? | 11:59 |
| dmi | in quantum/folsom/openvswitch/single host mode | 11:59 |
| dmi | at the moment, it's been allocated an address inside the dnsmasq range; I'd prefer one outside it | 11:59 |
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| scott_w | hi, i'm following these instructions: http://www.hastexo.com/resources/docs/installing-openstack-essex-20121-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin | 13:35 |
| scott_w | to set-up openstack on a single server, i've got to the last step, created a VM and i can't ping it | 13:35 |
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| scott_w | i've installed horizon, and looked at its boot process and see: cloud-init-nonet gave up waiting for a network device. | 13:36 |
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| foexle | hiho guys | 13:46 |
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| arcimboldo | Hi all, it seems that my nova-network service (folsom installation) is keeping some floating IP from being assigned | 14:13 |
| arcimboldo | how can I double check they are not actually used and free them? | 14:13 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: can you tell if they're assigned to an instance? What does nova floating-ip-list say? | 14:25 |
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| arcimboldo | et1337, funny thing, floating-ip-list does not show anything | 14:37 |
| arcimboldo | nova-manage floating list shows that some IP are assigned, but I do know they are not assigned | 14:37 |
| arcimboldo | as showed by nova list --all-tenants=1 | 14:37 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: Hm. I don't know for sure, but I'd say you can probably just go in to your MySQL database and fix the problem manually. | 14:38 |
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| arcimboldo | et1337, do you know which tables I am supposed to update? | 14:39 |
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| arcimboldo | nova.floating_ips ? | 14:40 |
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| arcimboldo | shall I set project_id to NULL and auto_assigned to 0 ? | 14:41 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: assuming you really don't want any floating IPs allocated to your project, yes | 14:42 |
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| arcimboldo | et1337, I don't quite understand what you are saying | 14:43 |
| scott_w | right i've tried killing dnsmasq and restarting nova-network and i'm still getting no joy getting an IP address for this server | 14:43 |
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| arcimboldo | there are a few IPs which are wrongly assigned to non-existent vms | 14:43 |
| arcimboldo | (or this is what I think( | 14:44 |
| et1337 | arcimboldo: in that case, you probably want to clear out the fixed_ip_id field on those rows. | 14:44 |
| arcimboldo | but they are not actually used by any vm, and are not available for any other vm | 14:44 |
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| arcimboldo | that's right | 14:44 |
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| arcimboldo | this is what I wanted :) | 14:44 |
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| arcimboldo | but also the project id I think, since I use automatic_assignemnt | 14:44 |
| et1337 | arcimboldo: well I don't know about that | 14:45 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: oh I see, actually yeah that makes sense | 14:45 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: I would also look at the fixed_ips table to see if there are any lingering entries there | 14:46 |
| et1337 | arcimboldo: there are likely a few rows with allocated=1 | 14:46 |
| et1337 | arcimboldo: that shouldn't be | 14:46 |
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| arcimboldo | there is no `allocated` field | 14:47 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: I'm on folsom with nova-network as well, I have an allocated field. that's weird. | 14:48 |
| arcimboldo | wonderful | 14:49 |
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| arcimboldo | root@cloud1:~# mysql -e 'describe floating_ips' nova | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | +---------------+--------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+ | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | Field | Type | Null | Key | Default | Extra | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | +---------------+--------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+ | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | created_at | datetime | YES | | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | updated_at | datetime | YES | | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | deleted_at | datetime | YES | | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | deleted | tinyint(1) | YES | | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | id | int(11) | NO | PRI | NULL | auto_increment | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | address | varchar(255) | YES | | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | fixed_ip_id | int(11) | YES | MUL | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | project_id | varchar(255) | YES | MUL | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | host | varchar(255) | YES | MUL | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | auto_assigned | tinyint(1) | YES | | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | pool | varchar(255) | YES | MUL | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | | interface | varchar(255) | YES | | NULL | | | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | +---------------+--------------+------+-----+---------+----------------+ | 14:50 |
| arcimboldo | (sorry for the spamming) | 14:50 |
| et1337 | arcimboldo: oh no, I meant the fixed_ips table | 14:50 |
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| arcimboldo | ah sorry | 14:52 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: select * from fixed_ips where allocated='1' should also list some fixed IPs that are no longer in use by any VMs | 14:52 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: the floating_ip table references them via the fixed_ip_id field so you could write a quick query to find out which fixed IPs are linked to your dead floating ones | 14:53 |
| arcimboldo | thnx et1337, I'll take a look | 14:53 |
| arcimboldo | well, it's actually too late, I've started N vms to check if the ips are used | 14:54 |
| arcimboldo | so now I've lost the link | 14:54 |
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| arcimboldo | well, I was able to use all of them, so thank you :) | 14:57 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: glad you got it worked out :) | 15:04 |
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| verdurin | gmi: metadata working for all four new nodes now - thanks for responding | 15:15 |
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| sandeepr | verdurin, what was the metadata issue? i ask because i'm facing an issue where vm is not pingable and the vm log says network not reachable. was it similar what you faced? | 15:17 |
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| gmi | verdurin: I'm glad you got it working :) | 15:20 |
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| arcimboldo | et1337, just one more question: the fixed_ip table also have a `leased` field, what does it mean? | 15:23 |
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| et1337 | arcimboldo: I think it probably has to do with DHCP leasing | 15:25 |
| et1337 | arcimboldo: yeah, judging based on this doc it sounds like that's what it is. http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-flat-dhcp-networking.html | 15:26 |
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| arcimboldo | I wonder if I am supposed to clean up that field as well, for the VM that are not running anymore | 15:30 |
| arcimboldo | uhm the pointer to the blogpost seems very interesting | 15:31 |
| arcimboldo | thnx et1337 | 15:31 |
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| verdurin | sandeepr: sounds like you have a more fundamental networking problem - in my case, it was just metadata requests that weren't working | 15:32 |
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| wkelly | Apsu`: nope! | 15:49 |
| wkelly | someone is emailing jason and complaining | 15:49 |
| Apsu` | wkelly: Wrong window! | 15:49 |
| wkelly | hah | 15:49 |
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| foexle | anyone are using the dns system in nova ? so nova dns-create with quantum ? | 15:50 |
| foexle | folsom release | 15:51 |
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| foexle | Razique: hey buddy :) | 16:32 |
| Razique | Hey man :) | 16:32 |
| Razique | how are you doing bro ? | 16:32 |
| foexle | Razique: i'm fine :) and check testing quantum ;) | 16:33 |
| Razique | nice! | 16:33 |
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| Razique | I'm playing with HA myself lately | 16:34 |
| foexle | Razique: how are you ? hope all fine ... | 16:34 |
| Razique | yes definitely :) | 16:34 |
| Razique | Been published on IBM dev. btw | 16:34 |
| Razique | wrote an article about the Folsom release :) | 16:34 |
| foexle | Razique: HA ? mean quantum ha or what exactly ? | 16:34 |
| foexle | Razique: oh really ? nice | 16:34 |
| Razique | no OpenStack high-availability in general | 16:34 |
| foexle | a you mean HA like pacemaker ? :) | 16:35 |
| Razique | yup :) | 16:35 |
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| Razique | Pacemaker, Corosync, so forth and so on | 16:35 |
| Razique | I'm also testing Ceph, but a bit disapointed by CephFS performance | 16:35 |
| foexle | haha yeah .... the beginning are painful but if you understand the cib's and how is pacemaker/corosync working ... it's very easy | 16:36 |
| Razique | (my testing protocol could be flawed though) | 16:36 |
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| foexle | Razique: :D, my next step upgrading test folsom => grizzly and loadbalancing -.- | 16:37 |
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| Razique | awesome! | 16:38 |
| Razique | I'll work on Essex -> Folsom soon | 16:38 |
| Razique | still need to figure out bits there and that :) | 16:38 |
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| foexle | i'm looking for a good solution how i can efficiently balancing between some application nodes | 16:38 |
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| foexle | Razique: ohhh essex => folsom are crazy i think ... with changing network layer ? | 16:39 |
| Razique | yah | 16:39 |
| Razique | going from nova-net to Quantum | 16:39 |
| foexle | wohooo :) | 16:39 |
| Razique | but I don't even know if it's feasible without breaking the implemented network | 16:40 |
| Razique | now we both know the answer, don't we haha | 16:40 |
| foexle | hahahah | 16:40 |
| foexle | yea | 16:40 |
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| et1337 | hey I have what may be a stupid question | 16:41 |
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| et1337 | but I've been scouring the docs and can not figure it out | 16:41 |
| et1337 | so when you launch an instance with 20 GB of ephemeral disk and 10 GB permanent | 16:42 |
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| et1337 | I think it automatically attaches that 10 GB permanent volume to /dev/vda or something | 16:42 |
| et1337 | and ubuntu cloud init automatically mounts it on /mnt | 16:42 |
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| et1337 | my question is, why doesn't that show up in cinder volumes? | 16:43 |
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| et1337 | if I delete the instance, there's no trace of that volume left, which seems the same as ephemeral disk. | 16:43 |
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| et1337 | or am I wrong in assuming that "permanent" means "cinder"? | 16:45 |
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| jgriffith | et1337: permanent does not necessarily mean Cinder here | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | et1337: TBH I'm not sure which doc you're using or the exact use case | 16:47 |
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| jgriffith | et1337: But, for Cinder, you do "cinder create xxxx" then attach or boot etc | 16:47 |
| et1337 | jgriffith: ok | 16:47 |
| et1337 | jgriffith: right, I've attached a Cinder volume before, I just didn't know if it was spawning a new one every time I launched a VM with permanent disk space | 16:48 |
| et1337 | jgriffith: So what's the difference between permanent and ephemeral then? | 16:48 |
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| et1337 | er, "persistent" not permanent | 16:49 |
| foexle | Razique: i'm out for today :) .... and greetings to your gf. | 16:49 |
| gmi | Razique: what's the link to that article? | 16:50 |
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| Razique | foexle thanks :) | 16:50 |
| Razique | gmi : http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-openstackquantumlab/index.html#author1 | 16:50 |
| Razique | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-openstackquantumlab/index.html | 16:50 |
| Razique | http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/cloud/library/cl-openstackquantumlab/index.html | 16:51 |
| Razique | sorry | 16:51 |
| jgriffith | et1337: So it should be what you expect | 16:51 |
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| jgriffith | et1337: Cinder is permanant, anything with the instance is ephemeral (unless boot from volume) | 16:51 |
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| jgriffith | et1337: So what command did you use to create this instance in your example? | 16:51 |
| et1337 | jgriffith: I normally don't boot from a volume | 16:52 |
| jgriffith | et1337: sure, that's fine, just mentioned it to try and be complete :) | 16:52 |
| et1337 | jgriffith: Ok I see in the docs now, that other disk that automatically gets attached is also ephemeral | 16:52 |
| jgriffith | et1337: cool | 16:52 |
| jgriffith | et1337: So you're using cloud-init to make a secondary attached dev? | 16:53 |
| gmi | et1337: you cannot launch an instance with "20 GB of ephemeral disk and 10 GB permanent"; you launch an instance based on a predefined flavor which has values defined for the root disk and ephemeral disk. Both disks are in fact ephemeral and get deleted when the instance is terminaded; On top of that, you can create volumes with cinder and attach them to your instance; The volumes are permanent and survive the instance deletion process. | 16:53 |
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| et1337 | jgriffith: No I'm not doing anything special, cloud-init does that automatically | 16:53 |
| scott_w | :q | 16:53 |
| et1337 | gmi: Thanks, that clears things up a lot. | 16:53 |
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| et1337 | although, that's really terrible wording on the part of Horizon lol | 16:54 |
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| et1337 | I wonder how it works with snapshotting? Do both disks get included in the snapshot? | 16:55 |
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| gmi | et1337: only the root disk is captured by the snapshot | 16:55 |
| hub_cap | did there used to be a HEAD call to get the status for a instance in the nova api? | 16:55 |
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| et1337 | gmi: good to know. thanks. | 16:55 |
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| hub_cap | or is that handled w/ the status extension now? | 16:56 |
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| gmi | Razique:nice article | 17:03 |
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| humbolt1 | I am confused. Are swift and rados the same thing_ | 17:18 |
| humbolt1 | ? | 17:18 |
| notmyname | humbolt1: no | 17:19 |
| xxiao | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5568187/ | 17:19 |
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| xxiao | folsom always failed launching a tiny instance, I'm setting lxc instance but the log always says qemu?? | 17:19 |
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| et1337 | I had one other question related to nova-compute. If we shut down a compute host, all the VMs get gracefully shut down and deleted. Is there a way to have it suspend the VMs instead? | 17:21 |
| notmyname | humbolt1: swift is a complete object storage system. rados is part of ceph | 17:21 |
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| wabat | et1337 - I believe you can use 'nova suspend' | 17:22 |
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| et1337 | wabat: Yes, but what I mean is if someone bumps a hypervisor's power switch in the server room, it deletes all its VMs before shutting down. | 17:24 |
| wabat | Interesting...I'm not sure if there is such a failsafe | 17:25 |
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| et1337 | wabat: yeah it's funny because if I just pull the plug, the VMs are still there upon reboot. | 17:26 |
| wabat | Are they truly there or is it just DB entries showing you that they still exist? Can you get into the individual VM? | 17:26 |
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| et1337 | wabat: in either case, whether I power down the host or pull the plug, the DB entries are still there | 17:27 |
| et1337 | wabat: but in the first case, the VMs get deleted | 17:27 |
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| et1337 | wabat: after rebooting I can actually see a VM log in Horizon that says it shut down | 17:28 |
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| et1337 | wabat: but nova reboot doesn't work on it. | 17:28 |
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| wabat | What version are you running? | 17:29 |
| et1337 | folsom | 17:29 |
| et1337 | on Ubuntu, both guests and host | 17:29 |
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| wabat | et1337 - I'm not sure if there is a tool to do it...I know in the past I've just gone into the DB and cleaned out the records myself | 17:35 |
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| et1337 | wabat: Seems there's some conf options in libvirt that might be able to suspend guests automatically on host shutdown. I'll see if that leads anywhere. | 17:39 |
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| wabat | I'd be interested to know what you find out | 17:39 |
| humbolt1 | notmyname: but rados, eventhough being part of ceph, is also an object storage. And listening to an intro video, it seems to have pretty much the same functionality. | 17:39 |
| * et1337 nods | 17:40 | |
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| sstent_ | anyone seen 'Cannot delete or update a parent row: a foreign key constraint fails' on trying the nova-manage db archive_deleted_rows command? | 17:41 |
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| notmyname | humbolt1: the first big difference between ceph and swift is that ceph is strongly consistent (and therefore sacrifices availability) and swift is eventually consistent (but always available) | 17:42 |
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| humbolt1 | notmyname: that is a great explanation, I like it! | 17:43 |
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| humbolt1 | notmyname: the other big question I have is: in openstack, how is one supposed to serve VM images, I mean the ones the running VMs actually write to. | 17:45 |
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| notmyname | humbolt1: cinder is for block storage devices that can be attached to VMs. glance is for VM image management | 17:46 |
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| humbolt1 | notmyname: but cinder, is that redundant then? | 17:48 |
| notmyname | humbolt1: no, block storage is different from what swift provides. both provide storage for different use cases | 17:50 |
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| humbolt1 | notmyname: but can one run vms from swift also? what about ceph? | 17:56 |
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| notmyname | humbolt1: no, not from swift. you don't "mount" object storage. you could from the block storage part of ceph (through cinder), but not from the object storage part of ceph (the different parts of ceph don't share data) | 17:57 |
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| humbolt1 | notmyname: they don't share data?! that is a revelation. I thought exactly that makes it so unique. You can put stuff into ceph block storage through a swift or s3 api and then access it through posix e.g. if you want to serve these files through nginx's mp4 or flv module. | 18:00 |
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| notmyname | humbolt1: I'm certainly not a ceph expert, but that is my understanding based on conversations with its creator | 18:01 |
| notmyname | dhellmann: ^? | 18:01 |
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| notmyname | that is one of the big differences between ceph and gluster | 18:02 |
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| gmi | et1337: if you pull the plug then the entire server dies and it has no time for deleting VMs, so when the server comes back up, the behaviour depends on the "resume_guests_state_on_host_boot" and "start_guests_on_host_boot" flags in nova.conf; on the other hand if the power switch is turned off then the server knows it's running on UPS and it nicely shuts itself down deleting all the vms in the process (because the instances are | 18:03 |
| gmi | defined with "<on_poweroff>destroy" , see "virsh edit instance_xxx") | 18:03 |
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| humbolt1 | notmyname: gluster has an object storage interface also? | 18:04 |
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| notmyname | humbolt1: ya, they use the swift API | 18:04 |
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| et1337 | gmi: awesome, so I just need to find a way to automatically override on_poweroff | 18:06 |
| et1337 | wabat: see gmi's answer ^ | 18:07 |
| et1337 | If I can't easily do that I might also just disable the power button. haha. | 18:09 |
| wabat | thx | 18:10 |
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| coredump | so what you guys are using for shared storage? | 18:23 |
| coredump | I am reading MooseFS but seems like it has some points of failure | 18:24 |
| coredump | also i only have 2 servers atm | 18:24 |
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| swinchen | Hi all. I am having a strange mysql permission error: when running "nova-manage service list" I get "(OperationalError) (1045, "Access denied for user 'nova'@'test1' (using password: YES)") None None" if I run it on the same node as mysql. It works fine on other nodes. I have quadruple checked passwords and grants for 'nova'. Any idea what could be causing this? | 18:28 |
| swinchen | I have 'nova'@'localhost' and 'nova'@'10.21.0.0/255.255.0.0' in mysql, and I have "10.21.0.1 test1 | 18:29 |
| swinchen | in /etc/hosts | 18:29 |
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| swinchen | AND I can login using mysql client as 'nova' from both nodes (including test1). | 18:30 |
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| et1337 | swinchen: I always get database errors running nova-manage unless I run it as sudo. | 18:30 |
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| jbr_ | swinchen: create a user 'nova'@'test1' or change the config in nova.conf and set 'localhost' | 18:34 |
| jbr_ | check your /etc/hosts too | 18:34 |
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| humbolt1 | how do I, based on OpenSource Software, provide a redundant block storage to serve my VM images with high availability to support live migration and fault tolerance? | 18:42 |
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| swinchen | et1337: Sorry, I should have mentioned I ran it as root. | 18:46 |
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| bodepd | i'm getting an error that I can't quite track down when running tempest on centos 6: https://gist.github.com/bodepd/5040978 | 18:48 |
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| bodepd | looks like it indicates an incorrect installed version of nose? | 18:48 |
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| et1337 | swinchen: I'd probably follow jbr_'s advice then, see what's in your nova.conf and /etc/hosts | 18:51 |
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| swinchen | et1337: I just tried adding "GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON `nova`.* TO 'nova'@'test1'" and I flushed privileges. No change. It is so odd. | 18:53 |
| swinchen | It is only on test1 I am having a problem. | 18:53 |
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| gmi | swinchen: what's on the sql line in your nova.conf? | 18:55 |
| et1337 | swinchen: and you can login by mysql client? if so and the credentials in nova.conf are correct I'm stumped | 18:55 |
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| swinchen | gmi: sql_connection=mysql://nova:XXXXXX@mysql-ha/nova where mysql-ha is in /etc/hosts and is the VIP I bind mysql to with pacemaker. | 18:56 |
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| swinchen | and I can login with the user name and password using the mysql client from either node. | 18:57 |
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| swinchen | "mysql -h mysql-ha -u nova -pXXXXXX" works fine from test1 and test2 | 18:58 |
| swinchen | I even "crm resource migrate g_mysql test2" and then retried. test2 is still fine, test1 gives me the permission denied error. | 18:59 |
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| swinchen | the only difference between the nova.conf on test1 and test2 is my_ip | 19:06 |
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| gmi | swinchen: I would play some more with the sql_connection in nova.conf, maybe add "sql_connection=mysql://nova:XXXXXX@IP_of_mysql-ha/nova" and try again | 19:08 |
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| swinchen | gmi: Yeah, I tried that. Unfortunately no luck. Maybe I should reboot it. | 19:10 |
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| swinchen | OHhhHHhh.... I haven't checked ip tables. | 19:10 |
| swinchen | Eh, that doesn't make sense... I can connect with the client. | 19:11 |
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| gmi | swinchen: do a capture from another shell while trying to connect and you'll see the source IP; grant nova@that_IP rights and you should be good | 19:12 |
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| swinchen | gmi: a capture? like tcpdump? | 19:12 |
| gmi | swinchen: yeap | 19:12 |
| swinchen | gmi: ok. It is strange because I have already granted 10.21.0.0/255.255.0.0 I will give it a shot though | 19:13 |
| swinchen | actually I even tried granting % | 19:13 |
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| swinchen | gmi: interesting. There seems to be a lot of traffic from "test1" to mysql... even when I am not issuing commands. I _do_ have nova-api, and nova-scheduler running on test1 | 19:18 |
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| swinchen | also glance. | 19:19 |
| swinchen | I will stop all those service and see what happens. | 19:19 |
| swinchen | eh, that didn't help | 19:20 |
| zykes- | Daviey: or zul herE? | 19:21 |
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| zul | zykes-: yep | 19:21 |
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| swinchen | gmi: even adding grant with the exact ip didn't help. I am lost. I think I will go drink a beer and give up for now. | 19:23 |
| gmi | swinchen: don't give up | 19:24 |
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| swinchen | gmi: Well, no. but I have no idea what to do other than start digging through nova-manage source code and manually do every step. I guess I could do that. | 19:28 |
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| gmi | swinchen: I have the same setup as you (pacemaker, VIP, sql, etc); my nova.conf has "sql_connection=mysql://nova:XXX@VIP_IP/nova" and in gave full rights to nova@% and nova@localhost and it works | 19:31 |
| zykes- | zul: why is trunk packages lagging 3-7 days behind the git repo ? | 19:31 |
| zul | zykes-: not sure ill have a look | 19:32 |
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| swinchen | gmi: I will try adding % again, flushing privleges... | 19:33 |
| coredump | so what you guys are using for shared storage? (I think I lost connection here) | 19:33 |
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| bodepd | clarkb: do you guys run tempest on the controller on redhat? | 19:34 |
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| swinchen | Jeepers! That didn't work either... | 19:34 |
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| clarkb | bodepd: no, currently tip of master is tested on ubuntu precise | 19:35 |
| clarkb | bodepd: we are trying to add tests on RHEL but are still sorting out the licensing details | 19:35 |
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| gmi | coredump: if you have two servers I would suggest looking at glusterfs with a distributed-replicated setup; https://github.com/beloglazov/openstack-centos-kvm-glusterfs/ and https://s3.amazonaws.com/aws001/guided_trek/Performance_in_a_Gluster_Systemv6F.pdf are good docs | 19:38 |
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| coredump | thanks gmi | 19:39 |
| swinchen | Ok, digging into source code. | 19:39 |
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| bodepd | I think I actually have to run the tests without -N on redhat :) | 19:40 |
| bodepd | there are package version conflicts with openstack | 19:40 |
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| monst | anyone gotten folsom keystone to integrate with PAM?? | 19:41 |
| monst | or can point me at docs | 19:41 |
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| swinchen | is nova-manage part of openstack/nova? | 19:44 |
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| gmi | swinchen: I don't think looking at the source code is going to help too much; you have a mysql rights issue | 19:46 |
| BMDan | I have several Folsom clouds that are working nicely. I'm attempting to get Grizzly up and running, and I've hit the part of my setup script where I create endpoints. I really don't understand endpoints, but I notice a lot of "v2.0" endpoints on services where I know v3.0 now exists. Is there somewhere I can find a list of Grizzly endpoints, or should my Folsom set work? | 19:46 |
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| BMDan | swinchen: poke me via /msg; if it's a MySQL rights issue, I can help you solve that. :) | 19:47 |
| swinchen | gmi: is there something else I need to flush? I flushed privileges after granting persmissions. | 19:47 |
| BMDan | swinchen: Coming in late to the conversation, but what's the error? You may also need to "FLUSH HOSTS", and you likely need to do: mysql -e "delete from user where user='' or host=''" mysql | 19:48 |
| gmi | swinchen: can you put in pastebin the ouptut from the following query after to remove the password? select * from mysql.user where user="nova" \G | 19:48 |
| swinchen | sure | 19:48 |
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| swinchen | gmi, BMDan https://gist.github.com/swinchen/3844227cdd47459277e9 | 19:55 |
| swinchen | Sorry about the delay... not sure a good way to grab a lot of text over ssh other than scrolling and copying | 19:55 |
| swinchen | BMDan: I will try flushing hosts now | 19:56 |
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| swinchen | I also included the grants. | 19:58 |
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| BMDan | Perfect, swinchen, thanks. What's the exact error OS/MySQL is giving you? | 20:02 |
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| swinchen | BMDan: Hi all. I am having a strange mysql permission error: when running "nova-manage service list" I get "(OperationalError) (1045, "Access denied for user 'nova'@'test1' (using password: YES)") None None" if I run it on the same node as mysql. It works fine on other nodes. I have quadruple checked passwords and grants for 'nova'. Any idea what could be causing this? | 20:03 |
| swinchen | BMDan: Hi all. I am having a strange mysql permission error: when running "nova-manage service list" I get "(OperationalError) (1045, "Access denied for user 'nova'@'test1' (using password: YES)") None None" if I run it on the same node as mysql. It works fine on other nodes. I have quadruple checked passwords and grants for 'nova'. Any idea what could be causing this? | 20:03 |
| swinchen | Oops, sorry. | 20:03 |
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| BMDan | Ahhh! | 20:04 |
| BMDan | Now I know what's going on, but let's go to /msg. :) | 20:04 |
| swinchen | It only seems to be a problem with the "test1" host. and I can login to mysql qith nova/password using the client no problem. | 20:04 |
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| xxiao | what is keystone service-create doing? how does it stores the value? my reboot always clears all services | 21:39 |
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| xxiao | users/roles/tenants stay, but srvices are always cleared out after reboot | 21:40 |
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| xxiao | every 'service keystone restart' will clean all stuff | 21:45 |
| xxiao | on ubuntu 12.10 | 21:45 |
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| heckj | xxiao: change the backend configuration from in-memory to something else (like SQL) | 21:49 |
| avoine | xxiao: this is configured in your keystone.conf file | 21:49 |
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| avoine | in the [catalog] section | 21:50 |
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| avoine | I use this usually: driver = keystone.catalog.backends.sql.Catalog | 21:50 |
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| xxiao | thanks. the problem I had to use in-memory is that, without it, keystone token-get will never work | 21:54 |
| xxiao | it always says "No handlers could be found for logger "keystoneclient.client" | 21:54 |
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| xxiao | Invalid tenant (HTTP 401) | 21:54 |
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| xxiao | folsom/12.10 out of box stuff | 21:55 |
| xxiao | keystone is the very first thinkg i'm testing before others | 21:55 |
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| Trixboxer | Hi, Im facing problem similar to | 21:57 |
| Trixboxer | http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-cloudstack-users/201211.mbox/%3CCAC79MzhSeH3w2BpDzJx-CWEmtMkctuQ6BX+U_U4gEeWfx1VMjw@mail.gmail.com%3E | 21:58 |
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| Trixboxer | "Invalid argument" while creating for Patchdisk for SystemVM | 21:58 |
| phschwartz_ | How can I troubleshoot why my admin user cannot do an image-list from glance | 21:58 |
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| phschwartz_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5568939 | 22:00 |
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| xxiao | token is matched in keystone.conf and env, all keystone service-list etc works, just not the token-get | 22:02 |
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| avoine | xxiao: you get the no handlers error even with keystone.token.backends.sql.Token as your token driver? | 22:07 |
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| avoine | well the no handlers error is a warning and could be ignored | 22:08 |
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| xxiao | avoine: yes | 22:11 |
| xxiao | the driver change does make the service setting saved after restart the service | 22:11 |
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| avoine | xxiao: check out that you have the right parameter then: http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/install/apt/content/verifying-identity-install.html | 22:12 |
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| xxiao | avoine: i followed that...it worked fine on vbox, but not on my current metal board | 22:20 |
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| xxiao | does keystone care about ethX interface? I have eth12 for its oa-auto-url | 22:20 |
| xxiao | os-auth-url | 22:20 |
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| BLZbubba | ok maybe i'm a moron but i can't seem to find out how to promote a user to being an admin for a particular tenant | 22:40 |
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| racker_KevinS | BLZbubba: check out 'keystone help user-role-add' | 22:50 |
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| miked__ | Is this still the super cool way to install OpenStack via chef? https://github.com/openstack/openstack-chef | 22:58 |
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| miked__ | Or is this the new hotness? https://github.com/opscode/openstack-chef-repo | 23:10 |
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