Saturday, 2013-03-30

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fedgoatHello, Does anyone know why Folsom+Quantum, the Quantum node does not create iptables rules as it should and rootwrap that runs iptables-save never actually saves the rules properly.  Is Quantum even usable in Folsom, I've had issue after issue with this with a multi-tenant vlan configuration with bonding.  If anyone has a multi-tenant/node setup I would seriously love to see how you have it working01:33
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zxvffhas anyone here (successfully) configured nova-compute to use ESX as a hypervisor?02:12
zxvffno matter what documentation I look at, I seem to be unable to get this to work02:12
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supakuwhat's the standard partition parameters for openstack, one inode per 4 megabytes?03:12
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DigitalDawnBeginner here struggling to understand how to setup cinder as a different server than my controller (I assume this also applies to other services)… Can anyone lend a hand at all? Is it all done with the endpoints thing in keystone or...?07:18
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muraliHi i am following this link to install openstack http://docs.openstack.org/folsom/openstack-compute/install/yum/content/ch_installing-openstack-overview.html09:59
muraliI am facing a problem when configuring Nova09:59
muralii see nova volume not coming up09:59
muraliwith this error ImportError: Class ISCSIDriver volume_group = nova - volumes cannot be found10:00
muralican someone help me out10:00
kryptohave you created volume group10:01
muraliin the link mentioned above no steps are there to create volume group.. there are steps to create keystone, glance and compute10:02
kryptoyou need to create a volume group named nova-volumes10:02
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muraliok thanks let me create it and try it out10:02
murali@ krypto one more help10:03
kryptocheck for nova-volume documentation for more info10:03
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muraliwhen i do nova-mange service list.. i get all the services with :) except nova-volume and nova-consoleauth10:04
muralinova-volume has errors in logs10:04
muralibut nothing with respect to nova-conoleauth10:04
muraliwhat could i be missing for that10:04
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kryptoi dont know why my nova-network and nova-compute are  showing xxx  but still i have everything working :), sometimes we can not trust that10:05
muraliok it has been said that XXX means NTP out of sync in case of multi node installation or backend queue not installed10:06
muraliwhen i got XXX i saw that qipdd was not installed correctly..when i fixed it i got :-)10:06
kryptookkk i didnt know that,in my case it is multi node10:07
muralipasting from documentation10:07
muraliIf you see three X symbols and are running services on separate hosts, ensure that ntp is synchronizing time correctly and that all servers match their time. Out-of-sync time stamps are the most common cause of the XXX state.10:07
kryptoThanks for the Info murali10:08
muraliThanks krypto will try to create volume group and check again10:08
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bogrd___Hi, I have an openstack essex setup running on ubuntu 12.04. I want to know the auto-scaling (based on say, RAM, CPU, Disk, etc ) possibilites in openstack.. can anyone guide me on this?10:51
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kryptoin Grizzly do we have nova-volume11:28
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NuxRokrypto: it's called "cinder" now11:32
kryptothanks NuxRo ,so in grizzly cinder is not optional anymore11:34
NuxRoi am not sure11:34
NuxRoi am not sure nova-volume is 100% gone either, but cinder is the future anyway, just use that instead11:34
kryptoThanks NuxRo11:36
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fedgoat does multi-tenancy with vlans work with bonding at all with quantum+openvswitch?  Why is rootwrap broken when making iptables rules..does anyone have this working at all?13:12
fedgoatFolsom+Ubuntu12.1013:12
jbr_1fedgoat: bonding+vlan with quantum+openvswitch on Folsom+Ubuntu 12.10 works13:13
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EmilienMI confirm :)13:14
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fedgoatjbr_1 prove it13:14
jbr_1fedgoat: for rootwrap, did you try to add root_helper into l3_agent.ini ?13:14
jbr_1hello emilien ;)13:15
fedgoatroot_helper?  im not sure about that one..lemme check13:15
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EmilienMactually it's already in packaging if you're using Ubuntu.13:16
EmilienMin default conf file I mean13:16
fedgoatyes root_helper is  root_helper = sudo /usr/bin/quantum-rootwrap /etc/quantum/rootwrap.conf13:16
fedgoatroot_helper = sudo /usr/bin/quantum-rootwrap /etc/quantum/rootwrap.conf13:16
fedgoatyes root_helper is there13:16
fedgoatroot_helper = sudo /usr/bin/quantum-rootwrap /etc/quantum/rootwrap.conf13:16
fedgoati can see in the logs it runs it, but iptables rules never get applied or saved13:16
EmilienMfedgoat: can you paste l3_agent log file ?13:16
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jbr_1you'r right emilien but it seems some part in agent try to get the root_helper config from the agent ini file and not from quantum.conf13:18
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fedgoati basically see in the logs where it runs /usr/bin/quantum-rootwrap /etc/quantum/rootwrap.conf ip netns exec qrouter-53a615af-bbb7-4dba-8cc5-17453fabc966 iptables-save -t filter >> fw.new13:19
fedgoat/usr/bin/quantum-rootwrap /etc/quantum/rootwrap.conf ip netns exec qrouter-53a615af-bbb7-4dba-8cc5-17453fabc966 iptables-save -t nat >> fw.new13:19
EmilienMjbr_1: actually, when you start the agent, it loads both quantum.conf & l3_agent.ini files. It's the same for all plugins & agents.13:19
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fedgoatthen the iptables rules in the log file    minuus the fw.new stuff this is a script i made to run manually but the iptalbes rules seem wrong and dont get saved13:20
jbr_1this is the difference between self.conf.root_helper and self.root_helper :)13:20
jbr_1self.conf is the namespace for the ini file13:20
fedgoatwhat i noticed also in /etc/quantum/rootwrap.d   the iptables-firewall.filters is missing13:21
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fedgoatis there supposed to be a filters file with folsom?13:22
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jbr_1fedgoat: can you paste your log file ? paste.openstack.org13:24
fedgoatyea let me restart the l3-agent and ill post it up13:25
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fedgoatjbr_1 http://paste.openstack.org/show/34951/13:28
jbr_1humm ?! where is the problem ? all command exit 0 so it's ok, what i missing ?13:31
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fedgoatthats what im saying13:32
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fedgoatit doesnt acatually apply the rules13:32
fedgoatit runs it but nothing actually gets applied and when new rules are created dont get applied either13:32
fedgoatwhere does it actually save the iptables-save file to?13:34
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jbr_1have a look on your compute node 'iptables -L -n -v'13:35
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fedgoatthe compute node writes some rules..the quantum node doesnt though13:36
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jbr_1nova-compute apply rules for each instances13:37
jbr_1l3 : NAT / FloatingIPS13:37
fedgoatthe quantum-l3 chains never get written to the quantum node though from rootwrap13:38
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fedgoatthe compute node rules seem to get added?when l3-agent is restarted on quantum node it runs the rootwrap like you see int he logs, but doesnt write rules to the quantum node as it should.  From troubleshooting this further also with bonding/vlan configuration, there seems to be an issue with connectivity also where some of the nat rules it does output but doesnt write may not even be correct.  This has been a 2 week mess trying to get bonding/vlans13:41
fedgoatworking.  Also if you have some insight on Native Vlans and tagging this would be good.  Some documents show the VMConf Vlan doing the Tagging on the vlan, but even setting a native vlan doesnt seem to tag properly.   I was able to setup a vlan interface on both the quantum node and compute node and get this working, but the problem is, I was getting the "double nibble" problem and it adding bytes onto the MTU causing the vm to hang.  This is the furt13:41
fedgoathest ive gotten this to work.  When i switch the vlan interface to a sub-interface of bond0 it craps and doesnt work at all, which is very odd and makes no sense13:41
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jbr_1you are running namespace right ?13:42
jbr_1i meen network namespaces13:43
fedgoatyes13:43
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fedgoative tried it with and without though, seems to have no difference really13:43
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jbr_1ok, you know how to work with ?13:43
fedgoatyes13:43
fedgoative had my cisco engineer look over this as well several times13:44
fedgoatalso im a bit confused because i am showing some examples wher ethe vmconf interface is in promiscuous mode with no ip13:44
fedgoatsctacht aht, i mean the br-ex interface13:44
fedgoatbut i see wehre some other configs have it static13:45
fedgoatbut neither seem to work13:45
jbr_1but for me (EmilienM, corrige moi si je me trompe) l3 isn't a firewall13:45
fedgoative even tried creating a bridge sub inteface off of bond0 also13:45
fedgoatl3 agent seems to kick off rootwrap which initiates the iptables rules on the quantum node13:46
fedgoatanother question also?if there is connectivity on the vlan interface..once l3 agent is started, it kills the connection on it, or "takes it over"13:46
fedgoatis this typical behavior of the l3 agent13:46
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fedgoattenant_network_type=vlan13:48
fedgoatnetwork_vlan_ranges = physnet1:1:409413:48
fedgoatbridge_mappings = physnet1:br-vlan13213:48
jbr_1if you are using quantum+openvswitch, you don't need to create a bridge of each vlan, openvswitch act as a real switch, it's able to tag flow in 802.1q13:49
EmilienMjbr_1: l3 agent is a FW when you are using OVS plugin13:50
fedgoatyea i realize that?this was for testing purposes because setting up a vlan interface did not work and with the openstack operators guide mentioned a "double nibble" problem13:50
EmilienMsince it used IPtables to manage security groups13:50
fedgoatwhen sniffing with wireshark though and having a vlan interface on the quantum node, we were unable to see multiple VID tags13:50
jbr_1EmilienM: on which node does the rules are applied ?13:51
EmilienMjbr_1: l3 agent node13:51
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humboltI just created my first ceph test FS. 3 nodes, 3-fold redundancy. Now, why am I getting only 27MB/s write speed on ceph, when proor testing showed, that the disks themselves can sustain 130MB/s transfer rates?13:53
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jbr_1EmilienM: i agree of the public part, i meen floating IP and nat for each network, but for each instances, rules are applied directly on the compute node where there the instance is hosted no ?14:00
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jbr_1humbolt: what is the test case ? sequencial or random15:01
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Guest50188I am not able to get a DHCP lease using quantum/grizzly.  Can anyone point me in the right direction on how-to solve this isse17:26
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humboltCeph question: when I have 3 servers with 4 HDDs each, do I make each HDD an OSD? Does Ceph itself take care, that the 3 redundant copies of my files do not end up on the same server?18:38
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coolaideIs there anyway I can run the master image from glance? I need to alter it to work with virtio? (would be good option to have in horizon for ide/virtio)20:39
coolaideI did a hacky shutdown of my windows image and altered the xmldump to get it to boot but I know that isnt sustainable20:39
coolaideThis is werid because... I could have swore I got it to work with virtio outside of openstack20:39
coolaideon my laptop qemu-kvm dev20:40
coolaideoh yea forgot,  549 pees in chan... all confused the same20:43
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coolaidedamn high expectations20:43
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NuxRocoolaide: so what is the problem exactly?20:46
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coolaideNuxRo: I made a windows7 and 2008 64 image on my dev qemu-kvm laptop and enabled virt io (create a slave dummy disk with virtio/c ide, install drivers,  reboot with root as virtio) ..uploaded to glance which sets root drive to be virtio and it does not boot20:47
coolaideNuxRo: drops to recovery20:47
coolaideNuxRo: if I shut down the instance on the compute node, alter the xml and set the root disk to be ide... she boots20:48
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NuxRobut does the image start ok on your local KVM with virtio devices?20:49
coolaideoh and its strange because the slave disk worked right away with virtio20:49
coolaideyeah works fine local kvm virtio20:49
NuxRois the main drive (C: or watever they call it these days) virtio?20:49
coolaidein the xml you specify it as virtio and vda device20:49
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coolaidelibvirt does the rest afair20:50
NuxRoaha20:50
NuxRowell, no idea then20:50
coolaidebasically saying "hey im scsi talk to me that way"20:50
NuxRowhat i did and worked was to install windows 2008 but straight on virtio devices20:50
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NuxRoand i would provide the drivers in another iso disk20:50
coolaideah20:50
NuxRoso do the virtio thing straight from install and should work afaik20:51
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NuxRothere's also some VFD (floppy) image you can give to the windows installer20:52
NuxRohttp://www.linuxwind.org/download/virtio-win-1.1.16.vfd (untested site)20:52
coolaidethought i did with the 7, this seems like voodoo with windows20:53
NuxRofedora web site seems to have retired it, anyway you can attach a second iso to the vm20:53
NuxRoyeah.. windows sux20:53
coolaidevmware sucks more20:54
NuxRoagreed :)20:54
coolaideto get openstack level of cloudyness you need the whole vdirector crap so... a vm for mssql/oracle, a vm for vshield, a vm for vdirector, a vm for vsphere .. am i missing something?20:55
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coolaideyou need to carve out a whole ton of resources just to run the damn thing for multitenant self service20:55
coolaideAND i read there are maximums per cell/vsphere/vdirector20:55
coolaidethats crazy20:55
NuxRousually people who run vmware don't worry too much about these resources :)20:56
NuxRosince they have lots of $$ to spend on them20:56
coolaidepff same people who think putting the vmdks on a raid 5 was a good idea20:56
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NuxRowell, if they're ppl with $$ they buy proper storage from netapp :)20:57
coolaidei would have let them if it didnt affect me :)20:57
coolaideah man20:57
coolaideim screaming for some real stuff... we monkey patch a 2.5 10krpm sas server with just linux and nfs20:57
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coolaideits bad20:58
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coolaideold people20:59
coolaidethey built a whole vmware cluster to run one ftp server20:59
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coolaideyea so21:00
coolaideany help would be apreciated21:00
coolaide:)21:00
coolaidetryna get a poc21:01
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coolaideYou guys like donuts?22:52
coolaidewith oyster sauce22:53
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